Bike Friday did something similar very recently.
Bill
“This was remarkable to watch, and I'm glad I was able to participate. I've
tried to think of another business that would have been able to pull this off,
and was unable to. I talked to Roman last week about an order I'd placed and
during
Thanks, that sounds plausible.
On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 4:03 PM, R Shannon wrote:
> Steve,
>
> Just a guess: Brian Tester former Riv staffer and mechanic.
>
> Best,
> Richard
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Well, yes. That's why I used the word "tried." Although I'm not sure it was
exactly good sense that was fully responsible for the abandonment of BB&H.
I do agree it was an interesting experiment.
dougP wrote: However, Rivendell had the good sense to abandon that effort.
Bike, Book & Hatchet w
Just realized my comment/attempt at humor doesn't make sense in this digest
format.
He/They said:
"Let's not forget that Rivendell tried something similar"
"However, Rivendell had the good sense to abandon that effort. Bike, Book &
Hatchet was an interesting experiment."
I said:
"Wait!W
" ... rich and broadly used ..." and dominant and now arrogant and
totalitarian ... The new Microsoft.
Patrick Moore, who uses Apple products because Word (which he needs for
work; no, Abiword or whatever won't do) won't work with Ubuntu, more's the
pity, and he doesn't want to use Windows. (And o
Steve,
Just a guess: Brian Tester former Riv staffer and mechanic.
Best,
Richard
Sent from my iPhone
> On Mar 1, 2018, at 3:48 PM, John A. Bennett wrote:
>
> Wait! What?! Now you tell us.
>
> John at Rivelo in Portland
>
>> On Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 9:18:17 AM UTC-8, dougP wrote:
>>
Wait! *What*?! *Now* you tell us.
John at Rivelo in Portland
On Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 9:18:17 AM UTC-8, dougP wrote:
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> "Let's not forget that Rivendell tried something similar"
>
> However, Rivendell had the good sense to abandon that effort. Bike, Book
> & Hatchet was an interesting exp
Matt - not to mention that the quality of their products seems to have
suffered since Jobs died. At least that's been my experience.
On Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 11:44:48 AM UTC-6, Matt Beecher wrote:
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> Early Apple, maybe. Now they are so rich and broadly used that I doubt
> people would ca
Glad to see Grant's email that things worked out better than he expected.
Just curious-anyone know who "BT Brian," is?
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people would care to support them.
Matt B.
On Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 8:38:08 AM UTC-6, Dave Small wrote:
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> This was remarkable to watch, and I'm glad I was able to participate.
> I've tried to think of another bu
I miss Ibex and am grateful for each and every one of their items I bought
over the years, be that online or on Ebay or wherever. I never quite
warmed up (so to speak) to their more formal shirts and I know sizing could
be tricky with pants and such. There were more misses in their execution
"Let's not forget that Rivendell tried something similar"
However, Rivendell had the good sense to abandon that effort. Bike, Book &
Hatchet was an interesting experiment.
dougP
On Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 7:22:52 AM UTC-8, Mark in Beacon wrote:
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> Let's not forget that Rivendell tried some
I should have added that my relationship with Ibex was based on their
annual sale. Very friendly employees and reasonable prices, never have been
to one of their retail shops. Steve
On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 5:23 PM Joe Bernard wrote:
> I don't think Ibex had that kind of following, and they were
I don't think Ibex had that kind of following, and they were doomed by their
constant fire-sale promotions. Did you ever pay full pop for Ibex stuff? I know
I didn't.
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Let's not forget that Rivendell tried something similar. It's difficult to
be a specialty retailer, web or brick, that cares to one degree or another
about quality, sourcing, etc.
On Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 10:11:36 AM UTC-5, Jon Dukeman,central
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> Steve
> Ibex had a retail
Steve
Ibex had a retail store in Denver's Cherry Creek Shopping district.
Arguably the most expensive place to open a brick and mortar retail store
in Denver
They wouldn't get much sympathy from me paying that high rent.
Jon
On Mar 1, 2018 7:56 AM, "Steven Sweedler" wrote:
I wonder if Ibex tried
I wonder if Ibex tried something like this what the response would have
been, rather than folding. Steve
On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 3:38 PM Dave Small
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> This was remarkable to watch, and I'm glad I was able to participate.
> I've tried to think of another business that would have been able to
This was remarkable to watch, and I'm glad I was able to participate. I've
tried to think of another business that would have been able to pull this
off, and was unable to. I talked to Roman last week about an order I'd
placed and during the conversation he mentioned that the response was
bet
What an amazing group to show such support! Happy to be part of it and hope to
be a Rivendell customer for years to come.
Grant said he wasn’t sure about putting the 215k number on the Blug but if you
look at the early Riv Readers, he was remarkably open about revealing the
finances and challen
I am so glad to hear that Riv will ride on. I remember reading or hearing Grant
make a statement something to the effect of...people's idea of succes now n
days is creating some sort of company / product and then selling it off to some
large corporation...that won't happen to Rivendell as long a
I loved seeing that. It made me want to get a couple more Hail Marys, to
try to push on through to $250,000!
Philip
Santa Rosa, CA
On Tuesday, February 27, 2018 at 4:22:04 PM UTC-8, BSWP wrote:
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> Yowza! RBW FTW!!
>
> On Tuesday, February 27, 2018 at 4:21:17 PM UTC-8, Ann L wrote:
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>> Check y
Indeed...! I know they must have sold a *bunch* of bikes and frames, at
least more than usual, as well as lots of other things. I can hardly
imagine how tired Jenny and others must be!
Still... I am still completely energized and grateful that it all worked
out. Shows what is possible, shows
I can only imagine how hard the shipping department has been working. 15 minute
lunches and 12 hour days! My small order shipped today and I want to give the
shippers a shout out. Thanks!
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Good point, Patrick the Deacon, I didn't think of that. At any rate I don't
think we need to get into a mindset of giving to this business like a charity,
I'm just going to let my gift cards sit for a while before converting them to
something off the Riv shelf. Also, I won't be doing an order th
Joe Bernard said: “The simple way to make it a donation without Grant having to
accept or reject is to just never use the gift card.”
But it is always carried on the books as a liability unless otherwise noted,
which might be burdensome after ten years. Grin. I suspect, however, that
Grant’s ap
The simple way to make it a donation without Grant having to accept or reject
is to just never use the gift card.
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So happy to read Grants email. Thankful that this drive was successful on the
plus side. As Rivendell’s are built to last and be passed down to future
generations, I would like Rivendell to be there for those future generations.
Curious if any of you who have talked to Riv about converting your
Very happy to hear the news! They are a company that I want to see live long
and prosper
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Whew! That was a close call. Really glad the effort paid off, especially
the doubling of the request. An extra cash cushion is always a comfort.
dougP
On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 4:38:03 PM UTC-8, Chris Birkenmaier
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> I was just in Ri s website and saw their request for their
It makes me think of the Bailey Building & Loan in It's a Wonderful Life
when private citizens gathered to help keep them afloat.
Less dramatic than the movies, but the Riv folks have touched many people's
lives in a similarly positive way--so it's not surprising that everyone
stepped up as th
It is indeed sobering. I read that and sent an email asking that they
convert my credits to a donation to Riv. I value them highly and
eliminating the minor future liability associated with my credits is a
small way of saying thanks (and, selfishly, to help in a small way to
ensure they'll stil
Wonderful news!
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Phew!
On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 16:21:17 UTC-8, Ann L wrote:
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> Check your emails. It looks like we all made a difference :)
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Bill, Joe and others are Riv mvp customers. I do my small part but thanks to
the long time loyal ones for being the heavy hitters. I enjoy the community
here.
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Great news!!!
On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 6:38:03 PM UTC-6, Chris Birkenmaier
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> I was just in Ri s website and saw their request for their loyal
> supporters to purchase store credits of $10 units to help through a cash
> flow jump. I promptly purchased some credits. I lo
"Four months from being gone." Sheesh! That's sobering.
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It's on the BLUG also, for those who don't get the emails.
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Really touching email.Wow..
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Yowza! RBW FTW!!
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Great news. I ordered a gift certificate on Wednesday and another one on
Sunday. Looked like about 5000 orders were placed in that time if the order
numbers count up.
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Thanks for the update, Bill. I got an e-mail today telling me "your order
is shipped" for some stuff I bought during last week's flurry of activity.
I hope that means they were so inundated with orders that it took a while
to get them all out. A Very Good Sign.
dougP
On Tuesday, February
Well that is good to hear. I hope things can get back into a normal keel
for them. I have a BS in Finance and also my MBA in Finance and I have no
confidence that I could successfully run a business. (and I was a pretty
good student).
On Tuesday, February 27, 2018 at 3:53:39 PM UTC-5, Bill Li
Thanks Bill. I hope confirmation from Riv comes soon.
On Tuesday, February 27, 2018 at 3:53:39 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
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> A couple people asked/speculated about outcomes and updates. I don't have
> anything specific about numbers or anything, but I did reach out to Dave to
> see if ther
A couple people asked/speculated about outcomes and updates. I don't have
anything specific about numbers or anything, but I did reach out to Dave to
see if there was anything else I could do for them. He indicated that the
HailMary response was strong and that "Our immediate crisis is past...
I bought $20 worth, thinking of gifting them to a friend in hopes that RBW
gets a new customer.
On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 7:38:03 PM UTC-5, Chris Birkenmaier
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> I was just in Ri s website and saw their request for their loyal
> supporters to purchase store credits of $10 units
Yes, today was the deadline, right? If anybody hears, please post an
update. I'm sure little ol' me can't have much effect but, if it helps put
things over the edge, I can try to defer some other expenses to get a
couple more credits and/or purchase something that I wan't but don't yet
need.
I am curious too though I know it is still early there in CA... That said,
if I thought things were close but still needed, I would make some
decisions, do some things, help keep the flame even more.
Bob
On Monday, February 26, 2018 at 9:52:47 AM UTC-6, Brian Campbell wrote:
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> I was wonderin
I was wondering if anyone knew how things progressed over the weekend?
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My wife took me to a Cajun restaurant for lunch today and there was small
LBS next door so I ventured in and found a real rarityan LBS guy
who is a big Rivendell fan! He mentioned that one of his customers brings
in a "copper" colored Rivendell with double-top tubes and that when the
I've see a few posts on Instagram also spreading the news about Rivendell; the
word is getting out:
https://instagram.com/p/BfjltyYgIir/
https://instagram.com/p/BfjjkX6Ac1S/
As for my part, I got a few gift certificates. In doing so, I left the browser
open and my wife read about it and saw a w
Bought a set of $10 credits on Feb 21, and ordered new bars last night Feb
23. FWIW, the difference between my two order numbers is 2,954! They
deserve this response.
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I don't order that often from RBW but they have first class products. I
signed up for $50.
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I'm in for $10 + enough in parts for free shipping, pair little big bens,
brake pads, silver down tube shifter, all stuff I've been on the fence to
order, a little nudge never hurts.
JohnS
On Saturday, February 24, 2018 at 3:30:24 PM UTC-5, Bob Lovejoy wrote:
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> Hi Ann,
>
> Here is a link tha
Hi Ann,
Here is a link that should take you directly
https://www.rivbike.com/collections/featured-products/products/hail-mary-store-credit
Let us know if that does not work!
Bob
On Saturday, February 24, 2018 at 2:07:29 PM UTC-6, Ann L wrote:
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> Could you provide a link to the request for
Could you provide a link to the request for store credits? I have been
browsing RBW and haven't found it.
On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 6:38:03 PM UTC-6, Chris Birkenmaier
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> I was just in Ri s website and saw their request for their loyal
> supporters to purchase store credits of
Marc, you said a mouthful. *All* true for all small businesses.
If you spend too much on inventory, your cash flow suffers. If you spend
too little, your cash flow suffers.
Every product you develop costs 5 times as much as you thought it would
because you want to get it right,
and your cust
I'm in for a $50 credit, and I'm also looking at buying some items right
now. I see a lot of things are sold out -- I'm wondering (hopefully) if
it's because of a recent surge of purchases in response to Grant's message.
Bob E
Cranford, NJ
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Just chipped in for the Hail Mary. I just received some stuff from them
earlier in the week - some fenders, newbaums tape, a pump holder, etc. I
emailed them after the shipping confirmation to see if I could add on some
Nitto p-clamps and they threw in two extras. These folks go above and being
I bought one Hail Mary for each Rivendell I own
Sounds like they're getting lots of uptake , which is great
Ryan Fleming in Winnipeg
On Saturday, February 24, 2018 at 8:25:54 AM UTC-6, Marc Irwin wrote:
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> I spent the last few years of my business career consulting small business
> owners, cas
I spent the last few years of my business career consulting small business
owners, cash flow is a constant problem for any privately held business.
Too much overhead, too much inventory, slumping seasonal sales, who knows.
Probably all the above. I bought a few things I needed and a $50 credi
Well I did one $100 Hail Mary and one $250 gift certificate. And then I put
in some "notify when back in stock" on some items I am interested that are
out of stock. I also contacted Rich about some wheels, but I'm not sure if
custom wheels helps Rivendell the company.
-Dave J
On Wednesday, Feb
Bought a $10 credit and some other stuff. Hope there has been a big response.
Bob K. in Baltimore
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When I saw this dropped everything and bought couple of things I always
wanted needed for my continued handlebar experiments.
A Bosco 58cm (already have 55) and a Tallux to go with.
And a 100 Hail Marys as an investment :)
On Wednesday, 21 February 2018 16:38:03 UTC-8, Chris Birkenmaier wrote
You could be right. 26 H frames and 32 H completes in stock at the moment.
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In a small business, there are numerous opportunities for poor decisions.
Often it's the first time a particular decision has been required, and it's
made with not enough information and unknown risk. But that's all you've
got to go on. NOT doing something can be as poor a decision as pursuin
>From my perspective it's 100% inventory issues. In order to sell the bikes
they want to sell for a price that it "reasonable", they have to buy them
in batches from Taiwan, cash up front. They just got Sams, and Roadinis,
and Appaloosas and have a Clem order coming really soon. That's a lot
Perhaps we ought to charge annual reading and posting fees for this list,
proceeds to go to Rivendell. What should the tariffs be?
Or perhaps, pay per post? I'd have to cut back!
Or, perhaps a fine for silly posts like this.
On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 12:31 PM, Jonathan D. wrote:
> I know RIv is
I know RIv is not a non profit but I would donate as well or consider it a
subscription to all their writings. I see Roadini’s are still in stock in all
sizes. I assume most of the models are selling well but I am guessing slight
changes in demand can have big cash flow implications. I also don
I hope the Hail Mary request has generated as much cash as comment.
I called and talked to Will, 'cause I hate signing in to things, and
donated $20 (I said "donate" but apparently I get something out of it. Oh
well). I told him I wanted Rivendell to be around until I die. Let's hope
it is.
On Fr
I hope the bad decision[s] isn't/don't include the 360° super silver
shifter project, because that's what my poor credit's all in on...
-Kai
BK NY
On Friday, February 23, 2018 at 1:29:54 PM UTC-5, Jonathan D. wrote:
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> Thanks Bill for the update. I’ll keep my fingers crossed this works and
>
I’ve been thinking maybe stocking too may Clem H style bikes may have strained
the budget? They didn’t sell as well as the L style and have been discounted.
Doug in Athens, GA
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Thanks Bill for the update. I’ll keep my fingers crossed this works and buys
them time to course correct. I wonder what business decisions they made that a
Grant now regrets.
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On Friday, February 23, 2018 at 9:17:41 AM UTC-8, Jonathan D. wrote:
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> Anyone know if the Hail Mary is having an impact or how much more they
> need? Are there other options to support them? I bought stuff from both
> rivendell and Rivelo this past month along with a few gift cards.
Dave S
Anyone know if the Hail Mary is having an impact or how much more they need?
Are there other options to support them? I bought stuff from both rivendell
and Rivelo this past month along with a few gift cards.
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I've been a little reluctant to post but it seems folks are interested in
the response to Grant's email. I bought a fist full shortly after the email
appeared. I plan on giving certificates to people I know who might be
interested in what Riv has to offer. My hope is that by doing so the
custom
Maybe it has been mentioned but...
The "Hail Mary" option now includes $10/50/100 options, making >$10
purchases all the more easy...
https://www.rivbike.com/collections/featured-products/products/hail-mary-store-credit
And highly recommended!
Bob Lovejoy
Galesburg, IL
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I look forward to hearing your ride report. Smart purchase and great deal Tim!
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Doug, I wish I had that much disposable cash also. But, alas, it went on
plastic. Had to; I'm not local. ;) Actually, the cash for it will be
disposed of over the next couple of months. Still, even with that avenue
of purchase, it was too good of a deal to pass up for a Waterford frame
that's
Wow Tim. Way to take advantage of a good deal. I wish I had that much
disposable cash on hand. Let us know how you like the Atlantis.
Doug
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Good call on that one, Tim!!!
On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 2:42 PM, Tim Butterfield
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> Don't worry about that Atlantis demo. It's already gone.
>
>
> I should be receiving it soon. I guess I can end my discussion of what to
> add to my Homer.
>
> Tim
>
> On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 2:38 PM, doug
Don't need any parts but just bought a $50 certificate to support Grant.
Eric
On Thursday, February 22, 2018 at 5:43:17 PM UTC-5, dougP wrote:
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> Michael:
>
> Complete bike for the price of the frame? How could she object? This
> truly is the deal I've ever seen.
>
> When we got my wife's A
Michael:
Complete bike for the price of the frame? How could she object? This
truly is the deal I've ever seen.
When we got my wife's Atlantis, she wasn't even shopping for a bike. Five
minutes around a parking lot & she said "I have to have this bike!" And
she's not a bike person. The
Don't worry about that Atlantis demo. It's already gone.
I should be receiving it soon. I guess I can end my discussion of what to
add to my Homer.
Tim
On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 2:38 PM, dougP wrote:
> CORRECTION: INCLUDES SEATPOST
>
>
> On Thursday, February 22, 2018 at 2:07:56 PM UTC-8, d
CORRECTION: INCLUDES SEATPOST
On Thursday, February 22, 2018 at 2:07:56 PM UTC-8, dougP wrote:
>
> There's still the 56 cm Atlantis for sale for $2,700. Complete bike, less
> seatpost & seat, for the price of the frame alone. Someone NEEDS this bike.
>
> dougP (already have my Atlantis, but an
Since folks are interested, I chipped in.
Also, I wasn't planning on buying n+1 anytime soon, but that 56 Atlantis
sure looks like a deal. Just need to get the wife on board...
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I just bought a $10 credit too. I had actually also ordered the on-sale
"Grant Special 3-speed" Clem L last week to be my wife's new commuter bike,
but felt a little bad about that since it was such a great bargain.
On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 12:14 PM, Nancy Seibel wrote:
> We're in too! Bought som
There's still the 56 cm Atlantis for sale for $2,700. Complete bike, less
seatpost & seat, for the price of the frame alone. Someone NEEDS this bike.
dougP (already have my Atlantis, but an active enabler on such matters)
On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 4:38:03 PM UTC-8, Chris Birkenmaier
'twas actually Keith's idea, but I'm glad to hear Riv is talking to you about
your tandem situation. Good luck!
Joe Bernard
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OK, Riv is on the case, so something may work out here with the tandem
after all.
It's too bad I really can't swing a new Rivendell bike at this time, but
give me about a year to save up and purge, and I may put down for a 650b
Hunqa or Atlantis. Hopefully those certificates will come in handy
Well, I just bought a hundred bucks worth...I know I will use it. I might
do more later after pay day.
This also got me off my butt to purchase the remaining parts I need for my
Appaloosa build. Looks like I'm going to be doing the two speed single
speed thing that the Cheviot on the blug had.
We're in too! Bought some credits. Now the planning beginswhat to
purchase later?
On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 7:38:03 PM UTC-5, Chris Birkenmaier
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> I was just in Ri s website and saw their request for their loyal
> supporters to purchase store credits of $10 units to help t
Just pulled the trigger on an Albastache from Riv after seeing their need
for cash. I've been mulling over the Albastache for some time anyway and
this was enough motivation to just go for it.
And I'm SO glad one of you picked up the 61cm Roadini demo special already!
Else, I might have some 's
Last night I purchased one Hail Mary credit and one $100 gift certificate.
I'm more than happy to give Rivendell $110. I see it as a cash advance to
them. (I would have bought some merchandise, too, but I need nothing now.
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Done!
I only knew about it from Esteban posting on IG as the email went to my
spam folder. I bet that is the case for many of those 15,000 unopened
messages.
I also posted it on some other forums I frequent, and recommended doing the
same!
On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 4:38:03 PM UTC-8
Joe, good idea! I mentioned at the end of my previous reply that I’d be
interested in a trade, so maybe I’ll make a separate message...
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On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 10:21 AM, iamkeith wrote:
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> On Thursday, February 22, 2018 at 6:49:23 AM UTC-7, Max S wrote:
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>> Biggest impulse purchase ever, but such an easy riding bike, and fun for
>> the whole family! Wanted the sage colorway in size small. Alas, they ran
>> out, so we set
Max, I didn't read your message properly at first. Don't know if you
noticed, but there are still small sage Hubba Hubba frames available, while
the mediums are long gone. I know its a hassle but I'd bet you could find
someone who wants that orange medium, since its the most needed size, and
Joe, the sizing decision was made at the shop, at the time of the visit, as a
sub-optimal but workable, pros outweighing the cons, given the options on hand.
I paid for it as a full bike at that time.
To the other point about them not knowing more tandems were en route — kind of
part of the is
In for a hail mary, plus a hatchet I've been thinking about...
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