Matt Elrod m...@elrod.ca wrote:
I've already written a script to convert AACR2 to RDA, with some
limitations. For example, it makes a wild guess about 700 $e.
With some refinements and enhancements, I think I could offer
a more robust and generic AACR2-RDA converter, either online
or on demand.
aviser immédiatement par
courriel.
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[RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] de la part de Breeding, Zora
[zora.breed...@vanderbilt.edu]
Envoyé : 22 novembre 2013 10:30
À : RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca
-mail: richard.mo...@bl.uk
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[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of MCCUTCHEON, SEVIM
Sent: 13 October 2013 17:02
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: [RDA-L] Finding examples
and Access
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Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 1:19 AM
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Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Finding examples of RDA authority records for personal
names and corporate bodies
Sevim
There are examples in the “BL Guide
My colleague and I are preparing a presentation for people new to authority
work about creating NARs in RDA (it's a presentation for participants in the
Ohio NACO Funnel).
We'd like to find examples of personal and corporate body names that use many
of the 3xx fields. Both straightforward and
25.09.2013 17:44, Jack Wu:
... after some length of time, will the rule become the
alternative again, and the alternative again become the rule? Will
East and West, in this case, English and German, ever meet? No
wonder there are endless change proposals and endless updating.
Try as I
Very interesting. Bernhard's last sentence says it all. If his prediction
holds, after some length of time, will the rule become the alternative again,
and the alternative again become the rule? Will East and West, in this case,
English and German, ever meet? No wonder there are endless change
Description and Access
[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of J. McRee Elrod
Sent: 23 September 2013 21:57
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Uniform titles in RDA
Jay Shorten posted:
Is it now RDA practice to enter the uniform title with articles?
RDA practice
24.09.2013 13:01, Danskin, Alan:
... JSC recognised that the omission
of the article is not good practice because the resulting title does not
accurately represent the resource and (more importantly) may render the
title ungrammatical in inflected languages.
That antiquated omission rule was
Is it now RDA practice to enter the uniform title with articles? Example: LCCN
2013002020 OCLC 828333810 has a 240 14 The new school counselor rather than 240
10 New school counselor
Jay Shorten
Cataloger, Monographs and Electronic Resources
Associate Professor of Bibliography
Catalog
, Jay
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 2:23 PM
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Subject: [RDA-L] Uniform titles in RDA
Is it now RDA practice to enter the uniform title with articles? Example: LCCN
2013002020 OCLC 828333810 has a 240 14 The new school counselor rather than 240
10 New school
I certainly have no answer for yet another RDA mystery.
My son who took a cataloging course this summer was thoroughly puzzled by
some of the language in RDA.
One big disappointment I've felt is that the 240 wasn't moved to 700
author-title. I'm wondering how we're going to explain this to
617-253-7137
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[mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Stephen Early
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 3:31 PM
To: RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Uniform titles in RDA
I think not.
Stephen T. Early
...@northwestern.edumailto:k...@northwestern.edu
(847) 491-2939
Proudly wearing the sensible shoes since 1978!
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[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Shorten, Jay
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 2:23 PM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC
Jay Shorten posted:
Is it now RDA practice to enter the uniform title with articles?
RDA practice aside, this would not work in our present ILS's. We
should not create records without regard for what our patrons must now
use.
While most ILS have implemented the 245 filing indicator, I doubt
Hi all!
A question concerning RDA Toolkit, namely the management of bookmarks.
We've noticed that once you've named a Bookmark, it is impossible to rename it
for purposes of better identification.
The only option is to delete it, then create a new Bookmark with a new name.
Is there something
Mac,
Would you please post the bibliographic citations and how to
order the two RDA guidance aids by Weihs and Fritz? Thank you
for your valuable guidance on the RDA listserv.
Lynne
I'm with Lynn. How do we order?
On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 5:28 PM, J. McRee Elrod m...@slc.bc.ca wrote:
Autocatters and RDA-Lers,
Help is on the way.
Excellent author Jean Riddle Weihs and another capable cataloguer are
working on an RDA/MARC21 manual for school libraries. Like Deborah
Lynn eBare requested:
Would you please post the bibliographic citations and how to order the
two RDA guidance aids by Weihs and Fritz?
The Weihs aid is still being written. I'm copying to the Jean and
Sheila, the authors.
The Fritz binder was AACR2, not RDA. I haven't heard if Deborah is
Elrod
Sent: Mon 8/5/2013 10:59 AM
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Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Good news re RDA guidance
Lynn eBare requested:
Would you please post the bibliographic citations and how to order the
two RDA guidance aids by Weihs and Fritz?
The Weihs aid is still being written. I'm
Autocatters and RDA-Lers,
Help is on the way.
Excellent author Jean Riddle Weihs and another capable cataloguer are
working on an RDA/MARC21 manual for school libraries. Like Deborah
Fritz' helpful binder, it will combine the two not very harmonious
cataloguing and coding standards.
Although
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[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of J. McRee Elrod
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 8:59 AM
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Subject: Re: [RDA-L] ] The A in RDA
James said:
... we have seen lots and lots of discussion among catalogers about
the D
31.07.2013 00:04, James Weinheimer:
... The refusal to accept that 99% of people do not
fit into these little pre-conceived FRBR user tasks is why I think that
perhaps librarianship may be destined for extinction. We must free our
minds from these pre-conceptions!
Visions of doom for
On 31 July 2013 01:04, James Weinheimer weinheimer.ji...@gmail.com wrote:
Show us how you can do the FRBR user tasks in Google: to
find/identify/select/obtain--*works* *expressions* *manifestations*
*items* by their AUTHORS, TITLES and SUBJECTS. Also, please demonstrate how
on the web, you
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Dan Matei wrote:
snip
On 31 July 2013 01:04, James Weinheimer wrote:
Show us how you can do the FRBR user tasks in Google: to
find/identify/select/obtain--*works* *expressions* *manifestations*
*items* by their AUTHORS, TITLES and SUBJECTS. Also, please
and Access / Resource Description and Access
[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of James Weinheimer
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 5:05 PM
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Subject: Re: [RDA-L] ] The A in RDA
On 30/07/2013 20:14, Kevin M Randall wrote:
snip
And yet again I get a long
Ø where navigate is about [snip] to find works related to a given work.
So the real objective is to find which is already covered in FISO. The
addition was discussed by the FRBR Review Group on 18 August 2005 and it was
decided that to navigate is implicitly a component of the broader task to
On 29/07/2013 21:31, Kevin M Randall wrote:
snip
Even after a few years of hearing this, I'm still trying to figure out
what are these other types of tasks users have that do not fit into
the FRBR user tasks. Would it be possible to list just a few of
them? And not dissertations about them,
FRBR defines the four user tasks for searching and making use of
bibliographic records. They may not be so typical in Google or Yahoo. Also,
they are general tasks. They generalize tasks that user would perform when
searching and making use of bibliographic records.
In an OPAC environment, we can
I liked this comment:
The fact is, it is important to keep in mind that the Googles are *not*
really finding/discovery tools similar to library catalogs and I think it is
a mistake to look at them that way: the Googles are advertising agencies and
probably the greatest advertising agencies
@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of James Weinheimer
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 11:40 AM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] ] The A in RDA
On 29/07/2013 21:31, Kevin M Randall wrote:
snip
Even after a few years of hearing this, I'm still trying to figure out what are
these other types
: www.crl.edu
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Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 1:15 PM
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Subject: Re: [RDA-L] ] The A in RDA
And yet again I get a long, rambling response
@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Stephen Early
Sent: July-30-13 3:10 PM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] ] The A in RDA
I agree with Kevin on this one. Here's my own FISO example involving an online
commercial search engine. Recently, I intended to purchase a book for my Amazon
On 30/07/2013 20:14, Kevin M Randall wrote:
snip
And yet again I get a long, rambling response that goes nowhere near
answering my question. The only thing that comes remotely close is
the statement:
Today, there are brand new ways of searching, by keyword, by
citations, by likes of
29.07.2013 00:10, Karen Coyle:
This may be out of date, because I found it on a 2010 license [1], but
it says:
GRANT OF LICENSE
... Such bibliographic records and
metadata may display DDC numbers, but shall not display DDC captions;
This is from WebDewey, and I don't have any
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Bernhard Eversberg wrote:
snip
With catalogs and cataloging, the journey is not the
destination nor its own reward or half the fun, as Confucian thinking may
have it, but there's no desire for a journey, or no interest in
a catalog as such, nor in its use.
29.07.2013 13:51, James L Weinheimer
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Bernhard Eversberg wrote:
snip
With catalogs and cataloging, the journey is not the
destination nor its own reward or half the fun, as Confucian
thinking may have it, but there's no desire for a journey, or no
did RDA
take?), some undetermined solution is put in place?
** **
Sorry to rant.
** **
*From:* Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access
[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] *On Behalf Of *James Weinheimer
*Sent:* 27 July 2013 14:59
*To:* RDA-L
James has introduced a new word that I have not seen before discombobulated
from combobulated also recombobulated. I looked up its definition and
would recommend its meaning from the Urban Dictionary at
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=combobulation
Meaning # 2 seems to fit RDA
solution is put in place?
** **
Sorry to rant.
** **
*From:* Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and
Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] *On Behalf Of *James
Weinheimer
*Sent:* 27 July 2013 14:59
*To:* RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
*Subject:* Re: [RDA-L
-Original Message-
From: James L Weinheimer weinheimer.ji...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:51:25 +0200
I hesitate to give up on catalogs so easily.
Me too !
I still hope to see a catalog able to answer my favourite query:
fiction written by German speaking female authors
@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of JSC Chair
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 8:53 AM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] ] The A in RDA
RDA is about describing bibliographic resources and their relationships and
enabling access to those resources to meet our users needs
...@fas.harvard.edu
t: (617) 496-9190
f: (617) 495-1376
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[RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] on behalf of Dan Matei [d...@cimec.ro]
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 10:33 AM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
I've not seen James' word before either. Even with everyone's help here, I
cannot decided for myself, whether A in RDA stands for Ambiguous, Alternative,
or Aught. If I tell our patrons RDA is a Combobulation of content, media, and
carrier, would I be wrong, or just unintelligible?
Jack
29.07.2013 8:53, Tillett, Barbara:
RDA is about describing bibliographic resources and their
relationships and enabling access to those resources to meet our
users needs. It is intended to be used as an online tool that can be
consulted as needed once a cataloger has learned the basics. That
From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access
[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Ford Davey
Sent: July-28-13 9:57 AM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] ] The A in RDA
...
That disturbs me, a lot! I would like to know how those of you
Barbara said:
That is not different from earlier cataloging codes.
RDA is *very* different from earlier codes in that:
1) The expense of consulting RDA is a recurring license fee, rather
than a one time capital expenditure.
2) Unlike the clear English of AAR2 (thanks to Michael Gorman), the
Thank you!
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[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of J. McRee Elrod
Sent: 29 July 2013 17:27
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] ] The A in RDA
Barbara said
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[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of J. McRee Elrod
Sent: July-29-13 12:27 PM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] ] The A in RDA
Barbara said
RDA will continue to evolve under the Joint Steering Committee’s direction.
This listserv is a communication channel for individual feedback. The JSC
follows the comments from RDA-L as well as proposals, comments, and
discussion papers from organizations worldwide that all feed into the
process
You would be wrong - Barbara
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Jack Wu j...@franciscan.edu wrote:
I've not seen James' word before either. Even with everyone's help here,
I cannot decided for myself, whether A in RDA stands for Ambiguous,
Alternative, or Aught. If I tell our patrons RDA is
On 29/07/2013 15:53, JSC Chair wrote:
snip
RDA is about describing bibliographic resources and their
relationships and enabling access to those resources to meet our users
needs. It is intended to be used as an online tool that can be
consulted as needed once a cataloger has learned the
Thomas said:
There will always be those say it's gone too far and those that say
.it's not gone far enough.
It seems to me both are true. It was gone too far in abandoning
accepted standards (e.g., sentence capitalization, justification of
entries), but has not gone far enough in correcting
-Original Message-
From: J. McRee Elrod [mailto:m...@slc.bc.ca]
Sent: July-29-13 2:31 PM
To: Brenndorfer, Thomas
Cc: RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] ] The A in RDA
Both RDA and Bibframe follow modern data modeling techniques, such as
the entity
Even after a few years of hearing this, I'm still trying to figure out what are
these other types of tasks users have that do not fit into the FRBR user
tasks. Would it be possible to list just a few of them? And not dissertations
about them, but just some succinct examples. I have a feeling
My response of You would be wrong was to Jack Wu's suggestion of what to
tell patrons. Not sure why you would be discussing cataloging codes with
patrons in the first place.
Many thanks for the clarity from Thomas Brenndorfer (thank you, Thomas) -
Barbara
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Jack
Elaine Svenonius suggests that a fifth objective of navigate should be added to
the existing four (FISO), where navigate is about moving through the
bibliographic universe, as expressed in a database, to find works related to a
given work. She bases this on what research into information
and Access / Resource Description and Access
[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of James Weinheimer
Sent: 27 July 2013 14:59
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] ] The A in RDA
On 26/07/2013 22:10, JSC Chair wrote:
snip
Taking the bigger view is precisely what RDA
On 26/07/2013 22:10, JSC Chair wrote:
snip
Taking the bigger view is precisely what RDA will help us do - stop
focusing on creating records and see how the resources we are
describing fit into the bibliographic universe. We are living with
lots of MARC limitations for now, but the data built
Apologies for cross-posting
Bernhard Eversberg mentioned somewhere along the way that RDA means
Resource Description and Access, but on the email lists, we have seen
lots and lots of discussion among catalogers about the D (Description)
but relatively little about A (Access). The public however,
James said:
... we have seen lots and lots of discussion among catalogers about
the D (Description) but relatively little about A (Access).
Perhaps because RDA says nothing about indexing and display, both
vital for access?
... what about new methods of access *using the data we already
have*?
Yay, team!
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 8:58 AM, J. McRee Elrod m...@slc.bc.ca wrote:
James said:
... we have seen lots and lots of discussion among catalogers about
the D (Description) but relatively little about A (Access).
Perhaps because RDA says nothing about indexing and display, both
Taking the bigger view is precisely what RDA will help us do - stop
focusing on creating records and see how the resources we are describing
fit into the bibliographic universe. We are living with lots of MARC
limitations for now, but the data built using RDA will be especially useful
when we can
Dear colleagues
Changes to RDA were published this week, to implement the decisions of
JSC last November. The BL Guide to RDA Name Authority Records has been
updated to reflect these changes. It can be found here:
RDA Toolkit
-Tools
--Workflows
---Global workflows
BL Guide to
What is the *BL *in the guide?
And will this be in the toolkit
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 6:34 AM, Moore, Richard richard.mo...@bl.uk wrote:
Dear colleagues
** **
** **
Changes to RDA were published this week, to implement the decisions of JSC
last November. The* BL Guide to RDA Name
Apologies for cross-posting:
This is posted on behalf of MARCIVE, Inc.
Libraries interested in RDA Implementation may be interested in a program at
the ALA Annual Conference at McCormick Place. This is one sponsored by ALA
Exhibit Round Table and MARCIVE, Inc.
Learning Objectives:
Learn:
Getting Started with RDA: A CIG pop-up workshop
3rd July 2013, University of Warwick
The CILIP Cataloguing and Indexing Group is pleased to announce a new workshop
aimed at helping libraries migrate to RDA.
If you are planning to adopt Resource Description and Access (RDA), or just
thinking
Richard Moore wrote:
When time permits, it would be useful if LCSH authorities for fictitious
characters could be cancelled, and re-established as RDA authorities in
the name authority file. This would avoid having two separate authority
records for the same entity, each using a different form as
I have created a record for the provider-neutral e-book OCLC #842051596. Would
someone be so kind as to look it over just to make sure I haven't forgotten
something? Also, does anyone have a handy list of traps to avoid when creating
an RDA record, something like, Be sure you don't forget to do
, Jay
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 5:59 PM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: [RDA-L] Request to check RDA record for provider-neutral e-book
I have created a record for the provider-neutral e-book OCLC #842051596. Would
someone be so kind as to look it over just to make sure I haven’t
Description and Access / Resource Description and Access
[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Shorten, Jay
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 3:59 PM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: [RDA-L] Request to check RDA record for provider-neutral e-book
I have created a record
Elrod
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 12:06 AM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] fictitious characters in RDA
Judy said:
The 4th paragraph of RDA 9.0 indicates that the scope of *person* in
RDA includes fictitious entities, such as literary figures, legendary
figures
Richard Moore said
I'd also like to see the same treatment for family names. RDA NARs are
supposed to be for more specific family entities, and LCSH for more general,
but works often have very specific family groupings as their subject, and there
is no reason why general and specific
Stephen McDonald said:
If a fictitious character were established as a 100 in a Name
Authority Record and you wished to use it as a subject, you would
have to establish a 650 Subject Authority Record for the fictitious
person.
I assume you mean a 150 subject authority.
I think this is
ourselves to
the course which has been heretofore pursued--Eliza R. Snow, 1842.
-Original Message-
From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access
[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Wayne Richter
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 8:58 AM
To: RDA-L
Thank you! So, since this character is the illustrator then the 600 and
700 are correct.
Sarah
JSC Secretary jscsecret...@rdatoolkit.org 4/30/2013 1:41 PM
Sarah,
The 4th paragraph of RDA 9.0 indicates that the scope of person in RDA
includes fictitious entities, such as literary figures,
As I understand LC policy, the 600 would not be correct and a fictitious
character heading in LCSH would need to be used (or proposed through
SACO).
^^
Adam L. Schiff
Principal Cataloger
University of Washington Libraries
Box 352900
Seattle, WA 98195-2900
Judy said:
The 4th paragraph of RDA 9.0 indicates that the scope of *person* in RDA
includes fictitious entities, such as literary figures, legendary figures,
... if the fictitious entity's role is only as subject of the resource,
the RDA instructions do not apply.
I find this exception
Hi, all
I have a question about recoding a title proper of a part of resource and
the larger resource for an analytical description.
RDA 1.5.3, types of description, shows that the larger resource may be
recorded in a series statement, related work, or related manifestation.
When using an
I'm not quite sure if I'm talking about exactly the same issue, but this is
something that is worrying me:
(Also, I do apologise to be mentioning a MARC subfield, which I don't think
purists like, but it's useful shorthand; also not to give the RDA rule number,
but I don't have access to the
Am 25.03.2013 13:30, schrieb Paul Davey:
... I do apologise to be
mentioning a MARC subfield, which I don't think purists like, but
it's useful shorthand; also not to give the RDA rule number, but I
don't have access to the Toolkit, but I'm sure readers will know what
I mean)
... no access to
Paul,
RDA is actually quite clear on this matter. In this case (unlike the one
I was talking about), it's not a complete element which is supplied, but
only a part of it.
The basic rule for this can also be found in 1.4 (Language and script):
When adding data within an element listed above,
Note that RDA 0.11.2 has general information about language and script.
Judy Kuhagen
JSC Secretary
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Heidrun Wiesenmüller
wiesenmuel...@hdm-stuttgart.de wrote:
Paul,
RDA is actually quite clear on this matter. In this case (unlike the one I
was talking
Paul Davey asked:
If I am creating a 245$c and I want to make use of the option that =
allows abbreviation to and twelve others what is the appropriate way
of expressing that?
[and 12 others], i.e., the language of the catalogue, in contrast
to the [by], [par] etc. we used to supply prior to
I'm aware of 0.11.2, but I'm not sure how it relates to the [and twelve
others] question.
True, under RDA an agency can choose its preferred language, and this
doesn't have to be English. So, Paul's library could choose e.g. Finnish
as the language of the catalog. But if I read RDA correctly,
In RDA 1.4, we read: When recording an element listed above as a
supplied element, record the supplied element in the most appropriate
language and script. (The elements listed are those that are normally
transcribed more or less exactly in the bibliographic description.)
Now I was wondering
On 2013-03-23 05:50, Heidrun Wiesenmüller wrote:
In RDA 1.4, we read: When recording an element listed above as a
supplied element, record the supplied element in the most appropriate
language and script.
We interpret that to mean the language of the text, unless
romanaization
is required
: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 1:27 PM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] S-o-R/RDA 2.4.1.4
All of this information on persons' affiliations could be recorded in
our authority records -- is it really necessary to repeat it all in our
bibliographic records as
well?
I got
Joan Wang jw...@illinoisheartland.org wrote:
If data can be transcribed as elements in categories, such as Author,
Name: Date: Affiliation: , and then authority records could be
automatically created. Is that right? Just my imagination :)
Could be. So far in MARC, the 38x fields
: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 1:27 PM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] S-o-R/RDA 2.4.1.4
All of this information on persons' affiliations could be recorded in our
authority records -- is it really necessary to repeat it all in our
bibliographic records as
well?
I got
Well, I thought I would go back to 2.4.1.4 and see what it says.
It appears to be very much in line with AACR2. I did not see anything like
the examples given in previous e-mails. Titles are omitted. They don't
really add anything to the area of responsibility. I did see Professors
used once,
Of Gene Fieg
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 10:52 AM
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Well, I thought I would go back to 2.4.1.4 and see what it says.
It appears to be very much in line with AACR2. I did not see anything like the
examples given in previous
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[mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Gene Fieg
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Well, I thought I would go back to 2.4.1.4 and see what it says.
It appears
All of this information on persons' affiliations could be recorded in our
authority records -- is it really necessary to repeat it all in our
bibliographic records as
well?
I got an impression that one day data represented in authority records
could be viewed or searched in end-users' clients.
On 3/12/2013 9:07 AM, Benjamin A Abrahamse babra...@mit.edu wrote:
But 2.4.1.4 states, Transcribe a statement of responsibility in the
form in which it appears on the source of information. Immediately
followed by the optional omission, Abridge a statement of
responsibility only if it can be
It may not be the same as AACR2 but it has the same gist (gyst?): don't
include any unnecesary verbiage that does not add to the reponsible agent.
This would include personal names that have forename and surname. When
surname is only available and a title is present, use it.
When corporate
Do people really think
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is more helpful and unambiguous to users than,
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Randall
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I wonder if the statement would read better if we punctuated it differently,
e.g.:
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Aberdeen, UK), S.E
Oh, boy!
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Benjamin A Abrahamse babra...@mit.eduwrote:
Do people really think
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