Distillation leaves ions and particles as a residue in the container.
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At 08:29 AM 9/16/2008 +0900, you wrote:
And one step further: why not boil EIS in the oven? If vigorously boiled
the steam would carry particles/ions of EIS into all the nooks and
crannies of the oven . . .
On
: Re: CSOT: cleaning microwave guts
Thank you all very much for the great suggestions. I was also wondering
how EIS would affect mycotoxins. Not having the equipment, or
training, or money to pay the guy who does, I am not sure.
Generally speaking, oxidizers do denature them to some degree
Jonathan B. Britten wrote:
And one step further: why not boil EIS in the oven? If vigorously
boiled the steam would carry particles/ions of EIS into all the nooks
and crannies of the oven . . .
Boiling is distilling, and that leaves all the silver behind in the pan.
It would be no
Don't know that it would, if one used a wide container and if the
boiling were vigorous and the steam rose rapidly. . . in shipboard
water distillers sediment rises up and gets into pipes and cruds up the
whole evaporative distillation system so badly that periodic descaling
is necessary.
Good point about the risk of having silver residue on the wiring, which
at the least could cause arcing of current and maybe fire.Better to
stick with sunlight, or better yet, take the oven to a professional for
servicing, if it's possible.
Given that just about everything discussed in
. . . as does the steam that falls as rain. Scientists tell us that
rain carries pollen, spores, bacteria, viruses, and more. A few years
ago I read a rather long and fascinating article about that topic. I'd
had no idea at all.
Epidemiologists are aware of and concerned with the
Thank you all very much for the great suggestions. I was also wondering
how EIS would affect mycotoxins. Not having the equipment, or
training, or money to pay the guy who does, I am not sure.
Generally speaking, oxidizers do denature them to some degree,
depending on which toxin and which
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Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 12:04 AM
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Subject: Re: CSOT: cleaning microwave guts
Just curious, and not quibbling, but given that this group is devoted
to EIS, why not use that? Might it not be less oxidative?
Taking things one step
And one step further: why not boil EIS in the oven? If vigorously
boiled the steam would carry particles/ions of EIS into all the nooks
and crannies of the oven . . .
On Monday, Sep 15, 2008, at 14:04 Asia/Tokyo, Jonathan B. Britten wrote:
Just curious, and not quibbling, but given that
Hi Jon,
I may have been getting a little overenthused, but was trying to address
multiple forms of contamination: 1)bacteria and fungi, 2)toxic detritus
from same, 3)other environmental pollutants such as outgassing from
building materials, dust, gaseous and microparticular drift from
numerous
Just curious, and not quibbling, but given that this group is devoted
to EIS, why not use that? Might it not be less oxidative?
Taking things one step further: mightn't sunlight do the job?If
one can spray something onto the components, sunlight might also reach
them. I have read
Dear Malcolm,
Very good explanation of how Caps regain a charge after being discharge.
For that reason I attached clipped leads to the caps after discharging them
On the subject of Power supply caps, I recommend some type of resistance rather
than say a direct short from an old tool to drain
Dear Kathryn, Malcolm, and group!
Anybody tempted to do *anything* around the guts of a microwave oven
needs to take all the cautions about high voltages and keeping yourself
out of the circuit *VERY* *SERIOUSLY*, as we don't want to lose any of
you.
Until you know how and why things are
I would have thought that just to turn the microwave on would kill any
toxins in it! dee
Clayton Family wrote:
Dear List,
I am trying to rid my house of airborne toxins. These may have
accumulated in the inner working of the microwave as they did in the
fridge. One way to detoxify these
of this approach
are not safe then don't do it.
* Your safety is more important than saving the cost of a new
microwave.
- Steve N
-Original Message-
From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 11:52 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSOT: cleaning
Subject: Re: CSOT: cleaning microwave guts
I would have thought that just to turn the microwave on would kill any
toxins in it! dee
Clayton Family wrote:
Dear List,
I am trying to rid my house of airborne toxins. These may have
accumulated in the inner working of the microwave as they did
: Thursday, September 11, 2008 4:23 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSOT: cleaning microwave guts
Kathryn,
I am probably going to horrify some with my recommendation
but you can clean your microwave in your bathtub with tap
water. The one thing I am not sure of is the magnetron
Dear Steve, Malcolm, Mike, Dee,
Thank you all for the input and the ideas. I am reading them and
mulling them over. Yes, the toxins tend to be airborn. Cleaning
appliances can be very time consuming since there are many areas that
are not so easy to get to. Buying new ones is certainly
Scary stuff! I think I would leave well alone and either get a new one,
or not bother with microwaving. dee
Norton, Steve wrote:
Dee,
I believe that she wants to remove the outer case of the microwave and
clean where the electronics are. That area is shielded from the
microwaves.
- Steve N
exactly how fast it will discharge.
Marshall
Dan
-Original Message-
From: Norton, Steve [mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 4:23 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSOT: cleaning microwave guts
Kathryn,
I am probably going to horrify some
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSOT: cleaning microwave guts
The microwave that I have, which I am considering using for CS, has a
resistance associated with it to discharge the capacitor. Not sure how
long it takes. The TV will hold a charge for a long time.
Dan
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Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 1:25 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSOT: cleaning microwave guts
Dan Nave wrote:
The microwave that I have, which I am considering using for
CS, has a
resistance associated with it to discharge the capacitor. Not sure
how
Many toxins are actually bits and pieces of dead bacteria and fungi or
their excretion products; thus the microwave may actually contribute
more toxins to some minor degree. Also there are many parts of the oven
that aren't irradiated, but just collect dust and particulate debris
because of that
, September 12, 2008 1:25 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSOT: cleaning microwave guts
Dan Nave wrote:
The microwave that I have, which I am considering using for
CS, has a
resistance associated with it to discharge the capacitor. Not sure
how long it takes
, September 12, 2008 1:40 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSOT: cleaning microwave guts
The microwave that I have, which I am considering using for CS, has a
resistance associated with it to discharge the capacitor. Not sure how
long it takes. The TV will hold a charge
On 9/12/2008 2:51:48 AM, M. G. Devour (mdev...@eskimo.com) wrote:
Lastly, you may want to read some of the materials on the alleged
dangers of consuming microwaved foods. We use ours a lot less than we
used to.
Yeah,
That was why I had a mw've to convert to CS maker supreme.
We had ditched
Hee, Hee,
I love it when you talk dirty, Marshall...
Chuck
What if there were no hypothetical questions?
On 9/12/2008 4:16:26 PM, Marshall Dudley (mdud...@king-cart.com)
wrote:
Dan Nave wrote:
The capacitor is 10 ufd. On the schematic, the resistor is
: cleaning microwave guts
Hee, Hee,
I love it when you talk dirty, Marshall...
Chuck
What if there were no hypothetical questions?
On 9/12/2008 4:16:26 PM, Marshall Dudley (mdud...@king-cart.com)
wrote:
Dan Nave wrote:
The capacitor is 10 ufd. On the schematic, the resistor is shown
parallel
Hi, almost forgot; the clothes dryer is infamous for collecting lint,
dust, and after years of use, suddenly catching on fire. This is not
the best way to clean it though. Usually the front panel can be wangled
free and the truly incredible amounts of foof peeled off the motor,
pulleys and
Dear List,
I am trying to rid my house of airborne toxins. These may have
accumulated in the inner working of the microwave as they did in the
fridge. One way to detoxify these things (according to Dr Croft, a
pathologist) is to spray them down liberally with ammonia solution and
let it dry
: cleaning microwave guts
Dear List,
I am trying to rid my house of airborne toxins. These may have
accumulated in the inner working of the microwave as they did in the
fridge. One way to detoxify these things (according to Dr Croft, a
pathologist) is to spray them down liberally with ammonia solution
.
This is what I would do.
- Steve
-Original Message-
From: Clayton Family [mailto:clay...@skypoint.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 1:46 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSOT: cleaning microwave guts
Dear List,
I am trying to rid my house of airborne toxins
Hi Kathryn,
What about a hepa filter 'High Efficiency Particulate Air' vacuum
cleaner as well as a more general household hepa filter; Honeywell makes
a bunch of these, though I don't know their real - as opposed to
advertised - quality. Industrial strength filters are available for
applications
of the strengths of
this group is the broad experience and willingness to comment when
something doesn't look right.
- Steve
-Original Message-
From: Malcolm [mailto:s...@asis.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 3:40 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSOT: cleaning microwave guts
Hi
Hi Steve Norton,
Just a brief comment (for me)
Before you open the microwave, let it set for 2 to 3 days unplugged to
discharge the capacitors. BTW, TVs also have a high voltage capacitor on the
versions with a picture tube.
Uplugged Television Capacitors can carry High Voltage charges
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