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2014-03-09 Thread Emilio Hernandez
Exactly! Cheers! --- Emilio Hernández VFX 3D animation.

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2014-03-09 Thread Maurício PC
You shouldn't sleep ever again after this fiasco. Great words Emilio. I'm sharing the most I can. On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 5:09 AM, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com wrote: Exactly! Cheers! --- Emilio Hernández VFX 3D animation.

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2014-03-08 Thread Emilio Hernandez
Autodesk tried to kill Softimage right from the beggining. Since the very first time Softimage never showed up in the front page of their website. All they showed up was Maya and MAX. Never gave the deserved attention and right branding/marketing. You never put enough attention and effort on

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2014-03-08 Thread Mirko Jankovic
lists in versions since acquisition. To see Softimage evolution under AD. Anyway.. when started thread Listening you are aware that people have to vent somewhere and giving that target face, any face at all.. it could be AD cleaning lady posted she would be receiving same treatment so nothing

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2014-03-08 Thread Mirko Jankovic
?? remove it please Logo? Remove... what else.. hmm the rest are 3rd party developed things so.. Would be really nice if someone with free time could collect all feature lists in versions since acquisition. To see Softimage evolution under AD. Anyway.. when started thread Listening you are aware

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2014-03-08 Thread Nick Angus
My favourite email so far, you absolutely nailed it Emilio. N From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Emilio Hernandez Sent: Saturday, 8 March 2014 6:27 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Listening Autodesk

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2014-03-08 Thread Oliver Weingarten
Nothing to add to this...it says it all, great post, Emilio!! Am 08.03.2014 09:27, schrieb Emilio Hernandez: Autodesk tried to kill Softimage right from the beggining. Since the very first time Softimage never showed up in the front page of their website. All they showed up was Maya and MAX.

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2014-03-08 Thread Octavian Ureche
That pretty much says it all. Very well put, Emilio. On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Oliver Weingarten li...@pixelpanic.dewrote: Nothing to add to this...it says it all, great post, Emilio!! Am 08.03.2014 09:27, schrieb Emilio Hernandez: Autodesk tried to kill Softimage right

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2014-03-08 Thread Andre De Angelis
development Cheers AD CEOs, you fucked it up big time Il 07/mar/2014 22:44 Mihai Iliuta mihai...@gmail.com ha scritto: You are listening?? Ok, listen to your own bullshit: The first is to flatly call out that the rumor that the eol of Softimage and 3dsmax is upon us is totally false. Cory

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2014-03-08 Thread Markus
Great post Emilio. Get it online maybe a Blog and spread it like mad. Ad tried to hide SI but still. Softimage was gaining Momentum like crazy the last 2 years. More and more 3rd Party dev's , renderers, free compounds tipps tricks , Tutorials. Just look at Vimeo. And the best Part of

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2014-03-08 Thread Andre De Angelis
*bullshit about killing Softimage because of 3 apps to develop. why buy in the first place then.* That's pretty much the best argument against the morality and integrity of AD and their clueless strategies. How many products have they bought and killed? I remember the dirty tricks they pulled

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2014-03-08 Thread Eugen Sares
An: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Gesendet: 08.03.2014 10:24:23 Betreff: Re: Listening That pretty much says it all. Very well put, Emilio. On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Oliver Weingarten li...@pixelpanic.de wrote: Nothing to add to this...it says it all, great post, Emilio!! Am 08.03.2014 09:27

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2014-03-08 Thread Jordi Bares
AD. Anyway.. when started thread Listening you are aware that people have to vent somewhere and giving that target face, any face at all.. it could be AD cleaning lady posted she would be receiving same treatment so nothing personally on venting but really really personally in what is done

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2014-03-08 Thread Christoph Muetze
-roja.com wrote: Well you are listening we are all ears. This is really your chance to cut the crap and be honest with us. -- Perry Harovas 203-448-7206 Animation and Visual Effects http://www.TheAfterImage.com http://www.theafterimage.com/ -24 years experience -Co-Author

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2014-03-08 Thread Rob Wuijster
of tools for game development Cheers AD CEOs, you fucked it up big time Il 07/mar/2014 22:44 Mihai Iliuta mihai...@gmail.com mailto:mihai...@gmail.com ha scritto: You are listening?? Ok, listen to your own bullshit: The first is to flatly call out

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2014-03-08 Thread Perry Harovas
Great idea Ronald! Great post Emilio! I just tweeted to John Walker about AD's treatment of customers. I doubt he has any pull, but it can't hurt at this point, and he may be very annoyed with how his baby has turned into Darth Vader. Actually, Vader was redeemed in the end, so maybe Emperor

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2014-03-08 Thread Perry Harovas
ha scritto: You are listening?? Ok, listen to your own bullshit: The first is to flatly call out that the rumor that the eol of Softimage and 3dsmax is upon us is totally false. Cory Mogk is now also responsible for Softimage and we have been working with the team on the future

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2014-03-08 Thread Stefan Kubicek
employees and most of the time they don't have a fault on how things worked out. Anyway ... just chill out on the personal attacks.On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:43 PM, Mihai Iliuta mihai...@gmail.com wrote: You are listening??Ok, listen to your own bullshit:"The first is to flatly call out that the

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2014-03-08 Thread Emilio Hernandez
out with Nuke. I am planning on doing more unbiased videos comparing more workflows to achieve the same in both softwares. Maybe this videos will reach the eyes of the stock holders, and they will find how they have been lied. @Chris, You are listening, well, we are acting. As Jordi said: You

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2014-03-08 Thread Emilio Hernandez
to achieve the same in both softwares. Maybe this videos will reach the eyes of the stock holders, and they will find how they have been lied. @Chris, You are listening, well, we are acting. As Jordi said: You are still in a position where you can revert things, and really get into track. First

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2014-03-08 Thread Luca!!!!
comparing more workflows to achieve the same in both softwares. Maybe this videos will reach the eyes of the stock holders, and they will find how they have been lied. @Chris, You are listening, well, we are acting. As Jordi said: You are still in a position where you can revert things

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2014-03-08 Thread Steven Caron
. @Chris, You are listening, well, we are acting. As Jordi said: You are still in a position where you can revert things, and really get into track. First step to do so. Bring back to us Softimage and really think into proper branding/marketing. If you want to cover your asses, blame it on us

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2014-03-08 Thread Sylvain Lebeau
Peotic proseEmilio, you cant say it better then that.thanks for sharing your insights!sly Sylvain Lebeau // SHEDV-P/Visual effects supervisor1410, RUE STANLEY, 11E ÉTAGE MONTRÉAL (QUÉBEC) H3A 1P8T 514 849-1555 F 514 849-5025WWW.SHEDMTL.COMhttp://WWW.SHEDMTL.COMVFX Curriculum 03: Compositing

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2014-03-08 Thread Emilio Hernandez
Well it seems that they stopped listening... --- Emilio Hernández VFX 3D animation. 2014-03-08 14:21 GMT-06:00 Sylvain Lebeau s...@shedmtl.com: Peotic prose Emilio, you cant say it better then that. thanks for sharing your insights

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2014-03-08 Thread Emilio Hernandez
that they stopped listening... --- Emilio Hernández VFX 3D animation. 2014-03-08 14:21 GMT-06:00 Sylvain Lebeau s...@shedmtl.com: Peotic prose Emilio, you cant say it better then that. thanks for sharing your insights! sly

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2014-03-08 Thread Stephen Davidson
It is the weekend Corporations don't work on the weekend. :) On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 9:40 PM, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com wrote: Well it seems that they stopped listening... --- Emilio Hernández VFX 3D animation. 2014-03-08

Listening

2014-03-07 Thread Chris Vienneau
Hi everyone, I just want to let you know there are people from the maya dev and pm teams coming online to this forum but we are shipping software and answering a lot of calls but the mails you are writing are being passed back and forth as they are coming at a furious pace. Stay tuned for some

Re: Listening

2014-03-07 Thread Dan Pejril
Good to know you are listening. If you listen closely, you can heart my heart breaking On 3/7/2014 3:01 PM, Chris Vienneau wrote: Hi everyone, I just want to let you know there are people from the maya dev and pm teams coming online to this forum but we are shipping software

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2014-03-07 Thread Meng-Yang Lu
Hi Chris, With all due respect, you have to start demonstrating your understanding of our problems by fixing them to show you're listening. This applies not only to Softimage users, but should extend to all the products you intend to support. Clearly you have planned for this for awhile now

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2014-03-07 Thread Tim Crowson
Thanks Chris! And thanks as well for the update to the licensing terms. That's a big deal. -Tim On 3/7/2014 2:14 PM, Dan Pejril wrote: Good to know you are listening. If you listen closely, you can heart my heart breaking On 3/7/2014 3:01 PM, Chris Vienneau wrote: Hi everyone, I just

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2014-03-07 Thread Perry Harovas
at 3:47 PM, Tim Crowson tim.crow...@magneticdreams.comwrote: Thanks Chris! And thanks as well for the update to the licensing terms. That's a big deal. -Tim On 3/7/2014 2:14 PM, Dan Pejril wrote: Good to know you are listening. If you listen closely, you can heart my heart breaking

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2014-03-07 Thread Mihai Iliuta
You are listening?? Ok, listen to your own bullshit: The first is to flatly call out that the rumor that the eol of Softimage and 3dsmax is upon us is totally false. Cory Mogk is now also responsible for Softimage and we have been working with the team on the future of the product with lots

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2014-03-07 Thread Raffaele Fragapane
Tell us how you really feel about it :) On 8 Mar 2014 08:43, Mihai Iliuta mihai...@gmail.com wrote: You are listening?? Ok, listen to your own bullshit: The first is to flatly call out that the rumor that the eol of Softimage and 3dsmax is upon us is totally false. Cory Mogk is now also

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2014-03-07 Thread Maurício PC
on the personal attacks. On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:43 PM, Mihai Iliuta mihai...@gmail.com wrote: You are listening?? Ok, listen to your own bullshit: The first is to flatly call out that the rumor that the eol of Softimage and 3dsmax is upon us is totally false. Cory Mogk is now also

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2014-03-07 Thread Daniel Kim
. Anyway ... just chill out on the personal attacks. On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:43 PM, Mihai Iliuta mihai...@gmail.com wrote: You are listening?? Ok, listen to your own bullshit: The first is to flatly call out that the rumor that the eol of Softimage and 3dsmax is upon us is totally false

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2014-03-07 Thread phil harbath
I am up for anyone that works at autodesk to get scolded at this point From: Daniel Kim Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 4:51 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Listening Agree with Mauricio --- Daniel Kim Animation

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2014-03-07 Thread Mihai Iliuta
are listening?? Ok, listen to your own bullshit: The first is to flatly call out that the rumor that the eol of Softimage and 3dsmax is upon us is totally false. Cory Mogk is now also responsible for Softimage and we have been working with the team on the future of the product with lots of key

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2014-03-07 Thread Perry Harovas
... but as a company it has employees and most of the time they don't have a fault on how things worked out. Anyway ... just chill out on the personal attacks. On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:43 PM, Mihai Iliuta mihai...@gmail.com wrote: You are listening?? Ok, listen to your own bullshit: The first is to flatly

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2014-03-07 Thread Nicolas Esposito
already lots of tools for game development Cheers AD CEOs, you fucked it up big time Il 07/mar/2014 22:44 Mihai Iliuta mihai...@gmail.com ha scritto: You are listening?? Ok, listen to your own bullshit: The first is to flatly call out that the rumor that the eol of Softimage and 3dsmax

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2014-03-07 Thread Chris Vienneau
listening to change things based off these forums like the licensing and potentially other things and we will be having webinars and training for those people that choose to stay with us. Cv/ From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf

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2014-03-07 Thread Mihai Iliuta
have a fault on how things worked out. Anyway ... just chill out on the personal attacks. On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:43 PM, Mihai Iliuta mihai...@gmail.com wrote: You are listening?? Ok, listen to your own bullshit: The first is to flatly call out that the rumor that the eol of Softimage

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2014-03-07 Thread Stephen Davidson
... but as a company it has employees and most of the time they don't have a fault on how things worked out. Anyway ... just chill out on the personal attacks. On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:43 PM, Mihai Iliuta mihai...@gmail.com wrote: You are listening?? Ok, listen to your own bullshit: The first

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2014-03-07 Thread Peter Agg
on the personal attacks. On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:43 PM, Mihai Iliuta mihai...@gmail.com wrote: You are listening?? Ok, listen to your own bullshit: The first is to flatly call out that the rumor that the eol of Softimage and 3dsmax is upon us is totally false. Cory Mogk is now also

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2014-03-07 Thread Paul Griswold
of the time they don't have a fault on how things worked out. Anyway ... just chill out on the personal attacks. On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:43 PM, Mihai Iliuta mihai...@gmail.com wrote: You are listening?? Ok, listen to your own bullshit: The first is to flatly call out that the rumor

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2014-03-07 Thread Mihai Iliuta
are listening?? Ok, listen to your own bullshit: The first is to flatly call out that the rumor that the eol of Softimage and 3dsmax is upon us is totally false. Cory Mogk is now also responsible for Softimage and we have been working with the team on the future of the product with lots of key

RE: Listening

2014-03-07 Thread Chris Vienneau
...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Mihai Iliuta Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 4:56 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Listening Are you kidding me?? You're saying he's just a receiver of orders, and didn't know anything about what

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2014-03-07 Thread Rob Chapman
so whose decision was it to kill Softimage then? perhaps was the same decision maker that moved entire Softimage development departments AWAY from Softimage and onto other projects immediately on acquisition. bullshit about killing Softimage because of 3 apps to develop. why buy in the first

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2014-03-07 Thread Mihai Iliuta
seriously, which no-one mature enough would), entailing simple dismissal, or non-consideration of the otherwise perfectly valid quotes you cited, for whom ever may be concerned. On 03/07/14 16:43, Mihai Iliuta wrote: You are listening?? Ok, listen to your own [bleep!]: The first

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2014-03-07 Thread Jason S
may be concerned. On 03/07/14 16:43, Mihai Iliuta wrote: You are listening?? Ok, listen to your own [bleep!]: The first is to flatly call out that the rumor that the eol of Softimage and 3dsmax is upon us is totally false. Cory Mogk is now also responsible for Softimage and we have been

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2014-03-07 Thread Meng-Yang Lu
Softimage (since release 7?) have already lots of tools for game development Cheers AD CEOs, you fucked it up big time Il 07/mar/2014 22:44 Mihai Iliuta mihai...@gmail.com ha scritto: You are listening?? Ok, listen to your own bullshit: The first is to flatly call out that the rumor

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2014-03-07 Thread Maurício PC
and most of the time they don't have a fault on how things worked out. Anyway ... just chill out on the personal attacks. On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:43 PM, Mihai Iliuta mihai...@gmail.comwrote: You are listening?? Ok, listen to your own bullshit: The first is to flatly call out

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2014-03-07 Thread Mihai Iliuta
you in the next while I will sit with you to hear you out. Cv/ From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Mihai Iliuta Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 4:56 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Listening Are you

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2014-03-07 Thread Rares Halmagean
you are listening we are all ears. This is really your chance to cut the crap and be honest with us. -- Perry Harovas 203-448-7206 Animation and Visual Effects http://www.TheAfterImage.com http://www.theafterimage.com/ -24 years experience -Co-Author of Mastering Maya http

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2014-03-07 Thread Jason S
, for whom ever may be concerned. On 03/07/14 16:43, Mihai Iliuta wrote: You are listening?? Ok, listen to your own [bleep!]: The first is to flatly call out that the rumor that the eol of Softimage and 3dsmax is upon us is totally false. Cory Mogk is now also responsible

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2014-03-07 Thread Nicolas Esposito
developers ),but no,they create Maya Lite for thatwhile Softimage (since release 7?) have already lots of tools for game development Cheers AD CEOs, you fucked it up big time Il 07/mar/2014 22:44 Mihai Iliuta mihai...@gmail.com ha scritto: You are listening?? Ok, listen to your own bullshit

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2014-03-07 Thread Bk
for whatever the real reason is they bought and killed Softimage is. On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com wrote: Well you are listening we are all ears. This is really your chance to cut the crap and be honest with us. -- Perry Harovas 203

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2014-03-07 Thread Artur Woźniak
this is pointless. He is the front to shout at. It's better to get drunk now and during the weekend. Mihai, fuck'em. they don't think human, they're all f... robots in suits. You don't fight them, you ignore them. Artur

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2014-03-07 Thread Mihai Iliuta
for game development Cheers AD CEOs, you fucked it up big time Il 07/mar/2014 22:44 Mihai Iliuta mihai...@gmail.com ha scritto: You are listening?? Ok, listen to your own bullshit: The first is to flatly call out that the rumor that the eol of Softimage and 3dsmax is upon us is totally

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2014-03-07 Thread Raffaele Fragapane
),but no,they create Maya Lite for thatwhile Softimage (since release 7?) have already lots of tools for game development Cheers AD CEOs, you fucked it up big time Il 07/mar/2014 22:44 Mihai Iliuta mihai...@gmail.com ha scritto: You are listening?? Ok, listen to your own bullshit

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2014-03-07 Thread Mihai Iliuta
. Anyway ... just chill out on the personal attacks. On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:43 PM, Mihai Iliuta mihai...@gmail.comwrote: You are listening?? Ok, listen to your own bullshit: The first is to flatly call out that the rumor that the eol of Softimage and 3dsmax is upon us is totally false. Cory

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2014-03-07 Thread Jordi Bares
: Re: Listening Are you kidding me?? You're saying he's just a receiver of orders, and didn't know anything about what was actually being decided? And if that's the case, when he ALSO eventually found out, he still continues to work for such people? Or what are you saying exactly? More of his

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2014-03-07 Thread Perry Harovas
reason is they bought and killed Softimage is. On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com wrote: Well you are listening we are all ears. This is really your chance to cut the crap and be honest with us. -- Perry Harovas 203-448-7206 Animation and Visual

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2014-03-07 Thread Emilio Hernandez
Well you are listening we are all ears. This is really your chance to cut the crap and be honest with us.

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2014-03-07 Thread Perry Harovas
. On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:43 PM, Mihai Iliuta mihai...@gmail.comwrote: You are listening?? Ok, listen to your own bullshit: The first is to flatly call out that the rumor that the eol of Softimage and 3dsmax is upon us is totally false. Cory Mogk is now also responsible for Softimage and we

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2014-03-07 Thread Chris Vienneau
of the other ideas that have come up. Cv/ Sent from my Windows Phone. Yes I said windows phone. From: Mihai Iliutamailto:mihai...@gmail.com Sent: ‎2014-‎03-‎07 6:22 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Listening

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2014-03-07 Thread Andi Farhall
. Subject: Re: Listening From: jordiba...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 22:41:27 + To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Actually I would love to take your word so when you are in Soho (UK) I will happily meet for lunch and actually listen to you instead. My

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2014-03-07 Thread Luca!!!!
in discussion, and sure you cannot trust anyone anymore (in this case for what concern AD). So, don't stay there in underline a language, then. This is the smallest problem. Of course those are all lies. With Softimage losing money? They never really tried to push Softimage. They say now ...we are listening

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2014-03-07 Thread Jason S
money? They never really tried to push Softimage. They say now ...we are listening?. Why never listened in 5 years the request to show Softimage more? Not even a simple Softimage link in the drop down menu on the website. They bought Softimage to kill it (everyone..EVERY user from every different

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2014-03-07 Thread Gerbrand Nel
. From: Mihai Iliutamailto:mihai...@gmail.com Sent: ‎2014-‎03-‎07 6:22 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Listening but maybe,with some of the element from the Softimage dev team,something good could be done and maybe we'll see some huge

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2014-03-07 Thread Enrique Caballero
: 2014-03-07 6:22 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc. autodesk.com Subject: Re: Listening but maybe,with some of the element from the Softimage dev team,something good could be done and maybe we'll see some huge improvement on Maya and Max You know, it would

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2014-03-07 Thread Mirko Jankovic
: Listening Chris, If AD had a product it was worth moving too you would have a way easier time. Maya is old, we know it, you know, so if you're not creating something truly new and next gen, and no bifrost isn't going to be the answer unless the entire thing is rewritten then it's a waste