Re: my apology to calek dude ...

2012-02-14 Thread Daniel
km wrote: i am quite annoy. i might even be ANGRY!!! *** we start off by blaning him for something he has no control over. SeaMonkey has been down the last 2 days!!! AND i am blaming you! Here we go againthis idiot trying to blame calek dude (cannot even be bothered enough to get

Re: Why forms manager is removed from Seamonkey?

2012-02-14 Thread Lucas Levrel
Le 13 février 2012, nikolam a écrit : I would like to ask somewhat rephrased question from some time ago, since I need forms manager again to remember website form. Why forms manager is removed from Seamonkey? As I understood it, going from SM 1 to SM 2 changed the coding framework, and

Re: my apology to calek dude ...

2012-02-14 Thread Lucas Levrel
Le 14 février 2012, Daniel a écrit : Here we go againthis idiot trying to blame calek dude Read the subject... He merely cites the original post and explains his jokes (the starred lines). -- LL ___ support-seamonkey mailing list

Re: my apology to calek dude ...

2012-02-14 Thread Daniel
Lucas Levrel wrote: Le 14 février 2012, Daniel a écrit : Here we go againthis idiot trying to blame calek dude Read the subject... He merely cites the original post and explains his jokes (the starred lines). Oh!! My apologise!! It was hard enough reading this clowns post the first

Re: my apology to calek dude ...

2012-02-14 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
Lucas Levrel wrote: Le 14 février 2012, Daniel a écrit : Here we go againthis idiot trying to blame calek dude Read the subject... He merely cites the original post and explains his jokes (the starred lines). That's an apology? Not in my book. Sorry, I don't see why we should

Seamonkey 2.7.1, e-mail client throws JavaScript errors :

2012-02-14 Thread Philip TAYLOR
Error: gMsgCompose is null Source File: chrome://messenger/content/messengercompose/MsgComposeCommands.js Line: 185 Platform : Windows 7;SP1, 32-bit. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org

Re: Seamonkey 2.7.1, e-mail client throws JavaScript errors :

2012-02-14 Thread Philip TAYLOR
Philip TAYLOR wrote: Error: gMsgCompose is null Source File: chrome://messenger/content/messengercompose/MsgComposeCommands.js Line: 185 Platform : Windows 7;SP1, 32-bit. and on reporting this, Seamonkey throws a further error : Error: [Exception... 'JavaScript component does not have a

Importing Thunderbird 10.0.1 in Seamonkey 2.7.1

2012-02-14 Thread Udo Weik
Hello, I have severe problems to get Thunderbird working again on my PC (Thunderbird doesn't start). A longer, sad story. Therefore I want to import my Thunderbird profile in Seamonkey. The problem is that I have no working Thunderbird profile on that PC, but I changed the settings in

what's happening w/ SM?

2012-02-14 Thread Bzzz
Hi, I'm using Iceape, which is the SM port under Debian Linux; 2 days ago it was upgraded to 2.7.1. From this upgrade, I noticed several *very* disagreeable things: * SM became bloated with pages using many JS (which I block w/ NoScript), exactly as FireFox did some weeks ago. Even not

XUL Runner Error?

2012-02-14 Thread TMitchell
Does anyone have help for the XUL Runner error message (Can't read application .ini) which occurs after trying to update SM preventing it from launching? This has happened to me every time I have tried updating since Ver. 2.5. I've seen others post about this problem too, but I have not yet

SM 2.0.14 Vs. SM 2.1 - SM 2.7 (so far) Annoyances

2012-02-14 Thread Doors
I recently made the jump from SM 2.0.14 to SM 2.7, oops. While better on web standards compliance, it is also harder to use. It keeps integrating things from firefox that are part of the reason I don't use it. I have come to nearly hate the new version. It remains usable, but the direction it is

Re: Seamonkey 2.7.1, e-mail client throws JavaScript errors :

2012-02-14 Thread Ray_Net
Philip TAYLOR wrote: Error: gMsgCompose is null Source File: chrome://messenger/content/messengercompose/MsgComposeCommands.js Line: 185 Platform : Windows 7;SP1, 32-bit. If you cannot reproduce it ... it's superfluousto post a bug like this one:

Re: what's happening w/ SM?

2012-02-14 Thread Ray_Net
Bzzz wrote: Hi, I'm using Iceape, which is the SM port under Debian Linux; 2 days ago it was upgraded to 2.7.1. From this upgrade, I noticed several *very* disagreeable things: * SM became bloated with pages using many JS (which I block w/ NoScript), exactly as FireFox did some weeks ago.

Re: what's happening w/ SM?

2012-02-14 Thread Ray_Net
Ray_Net wrote: Bzzz wrote: Hi, I'm using Iceape, which is the SM port under Debian Linux; 2 days ago it was upgraded to 2.7.1. From this upgrade, I noticed several *very* disagreeable things: * SM became bloated with pages using many JS (which I block w/ NoScript), exactly as FireFox did

Re: what's happening w/ SM?

2012-02-14 Thread Bzzz
On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 17:12:58 +0100 Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote: Because the developpers knows better than you what is good for you :-( Yeah, that was my first thought (same as for gnome3:( Too bad, I liked it until this release - I'm gonna try Opera to see if it fits my

Re: SM 2.0.14 Vs. SM 2.1 - SM 2.7 (so far) Annoyances

2012-02-14 Thread Ray_Net
Doors wrote: I recently made the jump from SM 2.0.14 to SM 2.7, oops. While better on web standards compliance, it is also harder to use. It keeps integrating things from firefox that are part of the reason I don't use it. I have come to nearly hate the new version. It remains usable, but the

Re: what's happening w/ SM?

2012-02-14 Thread chicagofan
Bzzz wrote: Hi, I'm using Iceape, which is the SM port under Debian Linux; 2 days ago it was upgraded to 2.7.1. From this upgrade, I noticed several *very* disagreeable things: * SM became bloated with pages using many JS (which I block w/ NoScript), exactly as FireFox did some weeks ago.

Re: what's happening w/ SM?

2012-02-14 Thread hawker
On 2/14/2012 8:11 AM, Bzzz wrote: Please, tell me why a good browser is turning to a piece of shit? Because Fire Fox is turning into a piece of shit (don't get me started on how many sites are no broken with the 10. numbering - and I'm getting sick of the pass the blame game), and the SM team

Re: SM 2.0.14 Vs. SM 2.1 - SM 2.7 (so far) Annoyances

2012-02-14 Thread Philip TAYLOR
Ray_Net wrote: 140++ lines of re-cycled dross, and then I agree with you - however what browser, mail-client and newgroup client do you suggest to use ? A signal:noise ratio of worse than 1:140 is not a good way to communicate. Philip Taylor

Re: SM 2.0.14 Vs. SM 2.1 - SM 2.7 (so far) Annoyances

2012-02-14 Thread Bzzz
On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 08:11:46 -0800 Doors doorsremov...@freedoors.com wrote: Sorry for sounding mad, I am not, just frustrated. I would be far less frustrated if getting started weren't so steep. Then I could just change back what is to my eyes, broken. You're not alone to think like that!

Re: what's happening w/ SM?

2012-02-14 Thread Bzzz
On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 17:15:36 +0100 Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote: I have also to add that they need votes for solving a bug, but they don't need votes for a change. I was responsible of a 4GL suite .. and we do the exact inverse ! Yep, me too: users are dictating the

Can SM 2.0.14 be copied to a new system separately...

2012-02-14 Thread chicagofan
which has SM 2.7 already, without any problems/conflicts? I would like to copy my present SM 2.0.14 program to my new laptop, instead of copying off some files. Is that possible? I may go back to 2.0.14 if this will work. bj ___

Re: what's happening w/ SM?

2012-02-14 Thread Bzzz
On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 11:23:03 -0500 chicagofan m...@privacy.net wrote: However, I'm one of those who just wants the basics and for them to be easily accessible, and realize many others want much more. I just wish the basics could be left alone, like passwords, downloads, font sizes, etc.

Re: Importing Thunderbird 10.0.1 in Seamonkey 2.7.1

2012-02-14 Thread hawker
On 2/14/2012 6:55 AM, Udo Weik wrote: Can I use MozBackup for cross-importing in any way? Yes I do it all the time. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey

Re: SM 2.0.14 Vs. SM 2.1 - SM 2.7 (so far) Annoyances

2012-02-14 Thread Bzzz
On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 17:21:05 +0100 Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote: I agree with you - however what browser, mail-client and newgroup client do you suggest to use ? mail-client and newsgroup client: claws-mail browser: YMMV, but they might miss the interesting freedom

Re: my apology to calek dude ...

2012-02-14 Thread Chris Ilias
On 12-02-14 3:59 AM, _Daniel_ spoke thusly: snip Daniel, personal attacks like this are never appropriate in the Mozilla newsgroups. I've removed your message from the server, per the policy at http://www.mozilla.org/about/forums/cancellation.html. If you have a problem with any specific

Re: what's happening w/ SM?

2012-02-14 Thread Kevin L. Hill
On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 11:23:03 -0500, chicagofan wrote: Can anyone tell me why, if they had to fool with passwords, they didn't give us the option of *always* showing passwords... in a password file? ;) bj Here is a workaround for the new and improved password manager. There is no guarantee

Re: what's happening w/ SM?

2012-02-14 Thread chicagofan
Kevin L. Hill wrote: On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 11:23:03 -0500, chicagofan wrote: Can anyone tell me why, if they had to fool with passwords, they didn't give us the option of *always* showing passwords... in a password file? ;) bj Here is a workaround for the new and improved password manager.

Re: Importing Thunderbird 10.0.1 in Seamonkey 2.7.1

2012-02-14 Thread Udo Weik
Hello Hawker, Can I use MozBackup for cross-importing in any way? Yes I do it all the time. thanks for your answer - but how? When I select SeaMonkey as app and my Thunderbird profile as backup I get the following message (MozBackup 1.5.1): Selected backup file isn't for selected

Re: what's happening w/ SM?

2012-02-14 Thread Jens Hatlak
Kevin L. Hill wrote: Here is a workaround for the new and improved password manager. There is no guarantee how long the code will be kept in future versions. Here is a way to use the old password manager. Copy the following address into the browser:

Re: what's happening w/ SM?

2012-02-14 Thread Larry S.
Kevin L. Hill wrote: On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 11:23:03 -0500, chicagofan wrote: Can anyone tell me why, if they had to fool with passwords, they didn't give us the option of *always* showing passwords... in a password file? ;) bj Here is a workaround for the new and improved password manager.

Re: Importing Thunderbird 10.0.1 in Seamonkey 2.7.1

2012-02-14 Thread hawker
On 2/14/2012 2:00 PM, Udo Weik wrote: Hello Hawker, Can I use MozBackup for cross-importing in any way? Yes I do it all the time. thanks for your answer - but how? When I select SeaMonkey as app and my Thunderbird profile as backup I get the following message (MozBackup 1.5.1): Selected

Re: what's happening w/ SM?

2012-02-14 Thread Jens Hatlak
Larry S. wrote: Kevin L. Hill wrote: Copy the following address into the browser: chrome://passwordmgr/content/passwordManager.xul Do you know of anything similar for cookies? chrome://communicator/content/permissions/cookieViewer.xul?cookieManager This may have issues and stop working in

Re: SM 2.0.14 Vs. SM 2.1 - SM 2.7 (so far) Annoyances

2012-02-14 Thread Rufus
Ray_Net wrote: Doors wrote: I recently made the jump from SM 2.0.14 to SM 2.7, oops. While better on web standards compliance, it is also harder to use. It keeps integrating things from firefox that are part of the reason I don't use it. I have come to nearly hate the new version. It remains

Re: what's happening w/ SM?

2012-02-14 Thread Larry S.
Jens Hatlak wrote: Larry S. wrote: Kevin L. Hill wrote: Copy the following address into the browser: chrome://passwordmgr/content/passwordManager.xul Do you know of anything similar for cookies? chrome://communicator/content/permissions/cookieViewer.xul?cookieManager This may have issues

OT: Anyone have an updated version of Unselect Message to work with the latest SM?

2012-02-14 Thread Glen
Using the latest SM has worked out so far, however using the mail program is not the same when having to check lots of email. I previously was using Xsidebar with the unselect message addon but it no longer works with the latest SM. If anyone has an alternative or an update on the Unselect

Re: what's happening w/ SM?

2012-02-14 Thread chicagofan
Bzzz wrote: On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 11:23:03 -0500 chicagofanm...@privacy.net wrote: However, I'm one of those who just wants the basics and for them to be easily accessible, and realize many others want much more. I just wish the basics could be left alone, like passwords, downloads, font

Re: Can SM 2.0.14 be copied to a new system separately...

2012-02-14 Thread NoOp
On 02/14/2012 08:44 AM, chicagofan wrote: which has SM 2.7 already, without any problems/conflicts? I would like to copy my present SM 2.0.14 program to my new laptop, instead of copying off some files. Is that possible? I may go back to 2.0.14 if this will work. bj

Re: Importing Thunderbird 10.0.1 in Seamonkey 2.7.1

2012-02-14 Thread Chris Ilias
On 12-02-14 6:55 AM, _Udo Weik_ spoke thusly: I have severe problems to get Thunderbird working again on my PC (Thunderbird doesn't start). A longer, sad story. Therefore I want to import my Thunderbird profile in Seamonkey. The problem is that I have no working Thunderbird profile on that PC,

Re: what's happening w/ SM?

2012-02-14 Thread Chris Ilias
On 12-02-14 8:11 AM, _Bzzz_ spoke thusly: I'm using Iceape, which is the SM port under Debian Linux; 2 days ago it was upgraded to 2.7.1. From this upgrade, I noticed several *very* disagreeable things: * SM became bloated with pages using many JS (which I block w/ NoScript), exactly as

Re: Can SM 2.0.14 be copied to a new system separately...

2012-02-14 Thread Gerald Ross
NoOp wrote: On 02/14/2012 08:44 AM, chicagofan wrote: which has SM 2.7 already, without any problems/conflicts? I would like to copy my present SM 2.0.14 program to my new laptop, instead of copying off some files. Is that possible? I may go back to 2.0.14 if this will work. bj

Re: what's happening w/ SM?

2012-02-14 Thread chicagofan
Bzzz wrote: On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 17:12:58 +0100 Ray_Nettbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote: Because the developpers knows better than you what is good for you :-( Yeah, that was my first thought (same as for gnome3:( Too bad, I liked it until this release - I'm gonna try Opera to see

Re: what's happening w/ SM?

2012-02-14 Thread Bzzz
On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 15:44:43 -0500 Chris Ilias n...@ilias.ca wrote: I don't know what you mean by became bloat. If you're having problems Yes, I didn't used the right expression. For example, to answer your post I selected the SM window where such a site is opened

Re: what's happening w/ SM?

2012-02-14 Thread Jens Hatlak
Larry S. wrote: Sigh . . . The Cookie Safe page says Not available for SM 2.7.1. Sigh... You didn't even *try* to click the button (and then Install Anyway). Else you would have found that this add-on works with *any* version of SM since 2.1. Have a little faith. I didn't recommend some

Re: what's happening w/ SM?

2012-02-14 Thread Bzzz
On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 15:56:29 -0500 chicagofan m...@privacy.net wrote: I downloaded Opera yesterday and it solved my biggest problem of NOT being able to see websites in full screen. In SM 2.7, I get everything in a column with wide blank borders on each side. :( This is also my choice,

Re: what's happening w/ SM?

2012-02-14 Thread Philip TAYLOR
Bzzz wrote: On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 15:44:43 -0500 Chris Iliasn...@ilias.ca wrote: I don't know what you mean by became bloat. If you're having problems Yes, I didn't used the right expression. For example, to answer your post I selected the SM window where such a site is opened

Re: Can SM 2.0.14 be copied to a new system separately...

2012-02-14 Thread chicagofan
Gerald Ross wrote: NoOp wrote: On 02/14/2012 08:44 AM, chicagofan wrote: which has SM 2.7 already, without any problems/conflicts? I would like to copy my present SM 2.0.14 program to my new laptop, instead of copying off some files. Is that possible? I may go back to 2.0.14 if this will

Re: what's happening w/ SM?

2012-02-14 Thread chicagofan
Bzzz wrote: On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 15:56:29 -0500 chicagofanm...@privacy.net wrote: I downloaded Opera yesterday and it solved my biggest problem of NOT being able to see websites in full screen. In SM 2.7, I get everything in a column with wide blank borders on each side. :( This is also

Re: what's happening w/ SM?

2012-02-14 Thread chicagofan
Jens Hatlak wrote: Larry S. wrote: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=727228 Guess I'll try the Chrome approach. Whatever makes you happy... Thanks anyway--you are a very helpful and much appreciated resource in this group. Thanks for noticing. ;-) HTH Jens Sorry, this

Re: Can SM 2.0.14 be copied to a new system separately...

2012-02-14 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
chicagofan wrote: Gerald Ross wrote: NoOp wrote: On 02/14/2012 08:44 AM, chicagofan wrote: which has SM 2.7 already, without any problems/conflicts? I would like to copy my present SM 2.0.14 program to my new laptop, instead of copying off some files. Is that possible? I may go back to

Issues with upgrades and application.ini

2012-02-14 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)
Ok guys, I need your help. I have been hearing over the past few releases a few reports about application.ini being missing. Anyone who has experienced this recently can you please point me at a update.log (last-update.log) etc. from when it happened. I need that log to help diagnose why,

Re: SM 2.0.14 Vs. SM 2.1 - SM 2.7 (so far) Annoyances

2012-02-14 Thread Ray_Net
Philip TAYLOR wrote: Ray_Net wrote: I agree with you - however what browser, mail-client and newgroup client do you suggest to use ? A signal:noise ratio of worse than 1:140 is not a good way to communicate. I agree with you, but what's your answer ?

Re: SM 2.0.14 Vs. SM 2.1 - SM 2.7 (so far) Annoyances

2012-02-14 Thread Philip TAYLOR
Ray_Net wrote: I agree with you, but what's your answer ? Seamonkey is the answer; what's the question ? :-) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey

SM icon for .htm file type in windows 7 with SM 2.1

2012-02-14 Thread Ray_Net
I was fiddling making different browser the default browser. Each time in explorer per exemple the filename.htm icon is the icon of the default browser. Then i re-instate SM as the default browser. BUT in explorer, per exemple the filename.htm icon is just an empty square. I have looked in the

Re: SM 2.0.14 Vs. SM 2.1 - SM 2.7 (so far) Annoyances

2012-02-14 Thread Ray_Net
Philip TAYLOR wrote: Ray_Net wrote: I agree with you, but what's your answer ? Seamonkey is the answer; what's the question ? :-) The question was: What browser, mail-client and newgroup client do you suggest to use (SM excluded)? ___

Re: SM 2.0.14 Vs. SM 2.1 - SM 2.7 (so far) Annoyances

2012-02-14 Thread WLS
On 02/14/2012 07:44 PM, Ray_Net wrote: Philip TAYLOR wrote: Ray_Net wrote: I agree with you, but what's your answer ? Seamonkey is the answer; what's the question ? :-) The question was: What browser, mail-client and newgroup client do you suggest to use (SM excluded)? Browser:

Re: SM icon for .htm file type in windows 7 with SM 2.1

2012-02-14 Thread Ray_Net
Philip TAYLOR wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Perhaps the html-file.ico is not a good icon In Win/7 Explorer, all icons files look fine, including html-file.ico. This icon looks good also for me but it's not show in explorer in left of a file with the extension .htm A test.eml show correctly the

Re: Issues with upgrades and application.ini

2012-02-14 Thread Larry S.
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: Ok guys, I need your help. I have been hearing over the past few releases a few reports about application.ini being missing. Anyone who has experienced this recently can you please point me at a update.log (last-update.log) etc. from when it happened. I need that

Re: what's happening w/ SM?

2012-02-14 Thread Bzzz
On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 15:56:29 -0500 chicagofan m...@privacy.net wrote: I downloaded Opera yesterday and it solved my biggest problem of NOT being able to see websites in full screen. In SM 2.7, I get everything in a column with wide blank borders on each side. :( Downloaded installed

Re: SM 2.0.14 Vs. SM 2.1 - SM 2.7 (so far) Annoyances

2012-02-14 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 14/02/2012 14:11, Doors told the world: What happened to 'File' in bookmarks, it used to be easy, direct and obvious. You selected file, it popped up a tree viewyou could scrioll if needed, and you clicked where you wanted it, now you have to use some funky folder menu

Re: Issues with upgrades and application.ini

2012-02-14 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)
Larry S. wrote: Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: Ok guys, I need your help. I have been hearing over the past few releases a few reports about application.ini being missing. Anyone who has experienced this recently can you please point me at a update.log (last-update.log) etc. from when it

Re: Bookmark checker

2012-02-14 Thread personal loans
freelance writer ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey

Re: what's happening w/ SM?

2012-02-14 Thread NoOp
On 02/14/2012 01:14 PM, Bzzz wrote: On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 15:44:43 -0500 Chris Ilias n...@ilias.ca wrote: I don't know what you mean by became bloat. If you're having problems Yes, I didn't used the right expression. For example, to answer your post I selected the SM window where such a

Re: what's happening w/ SM?

2012-02-14 Thread Chris Ilias
On 12-02-14 4:14 PM, _Bzzz_ spoke thusly: On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 15:44:43 -0500 Chris Iliasn...@ilias.ca wrote: I don't know what you mean by became bloat. If you're having problems Yes, I didn't used the right expression. For example, to answer your post I selected the SM window where such a

Re: what's happening w/ SM?

2012-02-14 Thread Bzzz
On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 21:04:57 -0800 NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net.invalid wrote: In a comparison of Opera SM 2.7.1 in opening http://television.telerama.fr/tele/grille.php the result are the same: 13 seconds (from a low speed California US connection). I wasn't talking about opening, just