Question

[Wim van Helden]

  
  
Dear all,
  
  I use the Seamonkey program / suite to my full satisfaction. I am
  also looking regularly to YouTube via Seamonkey. I am getting an
  errormessage in the chat section (right part of the screen) that I
  cannot participate or read the chat because I am using an outdated
  browser. Do I do something wrong, or is a solution underway?
  
  Look forward to your reaction,
  
  Wim van Helden
  The Netherlands

  

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question about JS

[Robert Jendrisak]

Hi there.


Seamonkey doesnt support event in javascript. I found it is only browser 
missing this. Do you plan implement it in future?


Many javascript games i tried doesnt work because of this.

https://www.w3schools.com/JSREF/event_clientx.asp

Robert

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Programming Question: 8-9-20

[Hugo F Spidalieri Jr]

Dear Sea Monkey:

I have been loyal and avid user and advocate of the SeaMonkey client 
server ever since Netscape went out of business.


I currently run the SM email on my win10 PRO system using  v.2.53.3.

I recently had to have my entire operating system reinstalled due to a 
bad win update and when I reinstalled the SM email app


I lost the function when replying to emails that places the date and 
time in the header of the email sent. (ie On 8-9-20 @ 4:01 PM Jon Doe 
wrote)...


I had found the option to turn this function on some months ago and now 
cannot remember where in the email app it is or how to re-engage it.


Could you please direct and assist me so that I can turn this feature 
back on!


Much appreciated and thank you for a GREAT product!

Respectfully,
H Spidalieri
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Re: Programming question: 8-9-20

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Information Services@DIASYS wrote:


*Dear Sea monkey:

Once again, I have been a avid supporter and user of the SM email app 
since Netscape went out of business


I recently had to have my operation system reinstalled as a result of 
bad win10 update and lost my  some of my SM email profile.


Some months ago I came across the a feature in the app that when 
replying to an email placed the date and time in the header of the email 
to be replied to ( i.e. On 8-9-20 4:10 PM Jon Doe wrote)


Search as I have I cannot seem to find where the feature is in the app 
and how to turn it back on.


Could you please direct and assist me?


Edit > Preferences > Mail & Newsgroups > Composition, there's a 
drop-down for "Select reply header type" with a few options.  It sounds 
like you want "On [date], [author] wrote:"


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Programming question: 8-9-20

[Information Services@DIASYS]

*Dear Sea monkey:

Once again, I have been a avid supporter and user of the SM email app 
since Netscape went out of business


I recently had to have my operation system reinstalled as a result of 
bad win10 update and lost my  some of my SM email profile.


Some months ago I came across the a feature in the app that when 
replying to an email placed the date and time in the header of the email 
to be replied to ( i.e. On 8-9-20 4:10 PM Jon Doe wrote)


Search as I have I cannot seem to find where the feature is in the app 
and how to turn it back on.


Could you please direct and assist me?

Thank you  for your time and a GREAT app!

H Spidalieri
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Re: Useragent question - in about:config

[Geoff Welsh]

Daniel wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote on 13/04/2020 8:41 AM:

closing out my own question, thanks to some google searches;

the new preference to add in about:config to spoof at will is;

general.useragent.override

view message source on this post and it /should/ say Firefox 74

you can put Chrome or webkit or whatever you want.  :-)

Yeap, I see your User Agent as Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 
10.13; rv:61.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/74.0


but did you notice the pref you listed was "general.useragent.override" 
not the "general.useragent.override.seamonkey" that you quoted first 
time around.




Yes, they changed it.

As I understand it, now that you have it set to 
"general.useragent.override", ever site you visit will think you are 
using FF V78, not SM.




Or whatever I put there.  That was the first copy and paste I had ready.
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Re: Useragent question - in about:config

[Daniel]

NFN Smith wrote on 15/04/2020 1:45 AM:

Daniel wrote:




It seems it may matter which is first and/or which is last! Whilst 
others would work correctly for either!


Just curious -- are you abbreviating Seamonkey as "SM" in your own use, 
or are you just doing that for reference here?


Yeap!! I noticed that just after I hit the "Send" button but wasn't 
quick enough to click the "Cancel" button!!


I did consider sending a follow up post with the correction but then I 
figured my Versions were listed in my sig. file (Checks to see that that 
information was correct ;-) Yeap!), so I didn't bother sending the 
correction!


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Re: Useragent question - in about:config

[NFN Smith]

Daniel wrote:
As an example, I have added some new entries where I changed the 
string accordingly with host I reach;
general.useragent.override.google.com -- string set to: Mozilla/5.0 
(Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/67.0


I've done precisely this with Google.  That one clears the display 
quirk that's in Google's search bar. For some reason, Google doesn't 
like a Firefox UA that shows the name of Firefox-derived project. They 
want only stock Firefox. If I remember correctly, PaleMoon has the 
same issue as Seamonkey.


By-the By, it seems some sites would work correctly for

Mozilla/5.0  (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/67.0 SM/2.53.1


whilst others would require

Mozilla/5.0  (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 SM/2.53.1 
Firefox/67.0


It seems it may matter which is first and/or which is last! Whilst 
others would work correctly for either!


Just curious -- are you abbreviating Seamonkey as "SM" in your own use, 
or are you just doing that for reference here?


Underneath, what's going on is sites that are checking for certain 
things, usually using scripting, but not always.  Most tend to look just 
for an acceptable Firefox version.   For some, having it anywhere in the 
UA string is acceptable, but some may be looking in a specific location, 
either at the end of the string (which is easier to find), but I suspect 
some want to see "Firefox" immediately following the Gecko designation 
(and nothing in-between).  I haven't used PaleMoon enough to see how its 
default UA behaves, where "Gecko" is replaced with "Goanna" (a Gecko 
fork), followed by "Firefox", then "PaleMoon". And I haven't interacted 
enough with PaleMoon users to know if they have occasional need to do 
spoofing.


I noted that user agent sniffing normally is scripting based, because 
sites also tend to use the scripting to deliver a warning, often by 
redirecting to a full page.  I probably don't see as much of that as I 
could, because of my liberal use of NoScript.  However, there's other 
ways of sites blocking access to browsers they don't want to see.  In 
server configs, there's a file called .htaccess that's used for a 
variety of things (especially page redirects), but it's also possible to 
use regular expressions to evaluate the presented User Agent string. If 
the string is deemed unacceptable, then the connection is simply dropped.


I use this methodology on the page I maintain.  Our site gets a lot of 
bot-based traffic that shows forged UAs. And a lot of the forging is 
sloppy -- a common problem is misspelling, or improper punctuation or 
spacing, stuff that would never be found in a valid UA. One that I've 
seen a lot of traffic on is one that purports to be "Firefox/40.1". 
That version was never valid, and so I drop any connections where I see 
that designation.  I also drop connections for really old versions of 
browsers, because chances are much higher that they're being shown by 
bots than than legitimate users.


This is one of the places where I find the ability to do spoofing on the 
fly to be really useful.  If I'm testing my filters for UA handling, 
it's really easy to set a UA string for what I'm filtering for, and then 
I can actually test whether my server will accept or reject that 
particular string.


With this in mind, it's generally a good idea to not get too creative in 
what you put in a UA string.  For some sites, a too-unique string might 
be something that a site admin decides is evidence of bot activity, and 
use that as a reason to drop or refuse your connection. And there's a 
few out there that are sensitive enough about tracking and personal 
identification issues that they either spoof all the time, or do random 
shuffling of UA strings, as a consideration of what ends up in server 
logs. I don't know that there's a way of doing that kind of thing in 
Seamonkey, but I do recall seeing somewhere that there are people who 
may be doing that with other browsers.


Smith
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Re: Useragent question - in about:config

[Daniel]

NFN Smith wrote on 14/04/2020 2:20 AM:

Ray_Net wrote:




As an example, I have added some new entries where I changed the 
string accordingly with host I reach;
general.useragent.override.google.com -- string set to: Mozilla/5.0 
(Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/67.0


I've done precisely this with Google.  That one clears the display quirk 
that's in Google's search bar. For some reason, Google doesn't like a 
Firefox UA that shows the name of Firefox-derived project. They want 
only stock Firefox. If I remember correctly, PaleMoon has the same issue 
as Seamonkey.


By-the By, it seems some sites would work correctly for

Mozilla/5.0  (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/67.0 SM/2.53.1


whilst others would require

Mozilla/5.0  (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 SM/2.53.1 
Firefox/67.0


It seems it may matter which is first and/or which is last! Whilst 
others would work correctly for either!


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Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Build identifier: 20190609032134


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Re: Useragent question - in about:config

[NFN Smith]

Ray_Net wrote:
As I understand it, now that you have it set to 
"general.useragent.override", ever site you visit will think you are 
using FF V78, not SM.


That's correct. It's a general setting that covers all of Seamonkey, 
including your email.  Thus, in the message wrote, there is this header:


 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:61.0)
 Gecko/20100101 Firefox/74.0

Since I have the dispMUA extension installed, the message used to write 
this text, that's showing that you were using Firefox to compose your 
message.  Since I know about spoofing, I know that's what you're doing, 
but there may be occasions when you send mail, it might cause an issue 
with showing the identity of a browser, rather than a legitimate mail 
client.


With that in mind, I tend to prefer doing more granular spoofing in 
places that need it rather than doing it globally.  I have a strong 
liking for PrefBar, and I have nearly a dozen different UAs available 
for spoof. Besides getting past sites that don't behave correctly when 
they see a Seamonkey UA, I've found a couple other places where spoofing 
is really useful.


One is for software distributors that support multiple operating 
systems, where they use UA sniffing to determine what system you're 
running, and when you download, they'll give you the download that 
corresponds to your platform.  For non-technical users, that's useful, 
in making sure that the correct download is delivered, but for me, I 
have an extensive collection of downloads that I use for support 
purposes.  By using spoofing, I can tell a site that I'm running a Mac, 
and get a Mac download, even if I'm using Windows. I also find that 
spoofing is useful when testing my own web page, to make sure that the 
page handles different UAs correctly.


With PrefBar, I can do on-the-fly changes of what I'm showing to a site, 
and then switch back to the default Seamonkey UA when I no longer need 
spoofing.




As an example, I have added some new entries where I changed the string 
accordingly with host I reach;
general.useragent.override.google.com -- string set to: Mozilla/5.0 
(Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/67.0


I've done precisely this with Google.  That one clears the display quirk 
that's in Google's search bar. For some reason, Google doesn't like a 
Firefox UA that shows the name of Firefox-derived project. They want 
only stock Firefox. If I remember correctly, PaleMoon has the same issue 
as Seamonkey.


I also do spoofing with general.useragent.override for a couple of 
financial sites that were complaining about Firefox 52 when I was 
running Seamonkey 2.49.x.  Since I visit those sites frequently enough, 
I don't want to bother with turning spoofing on and off in PrefBar, so 
it's worth it to me to do site-specific spoofs.  Since I've moved to 
Seamonkey 2.53, I'm guessing that those sites are no longer complaining 
(at least for now), but since the spoofing that I was using is for the 
then-beta of 2.53.1 (which shows Firefox 60), I haven't bothered to 
update or remove.  I'll probably want to update when 2.53.2 gets out the 
door.


Smith

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Re: Useragent question - in about:config

[Ray_Net]

Daniel wrote on 13-04-20 10:22:

Geoff Welsh wrote on 13/04/2020 8:41 AM:

closing out my own question, thanks to some google searches;

the new preference to add in about:config to spoof at will is;

general.useragent.override

view message source on this post and it /should/ say Firefox 74

you can put Chrome or webkit or whatever you want.  :-)

Yeap, I see your User Agent as Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 
10.13; rv:61.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/74.0


but did you notice the pref you listed was 
"general.useragent.override" not the 
"general.useragent.override.seamonkey" that you quoted first time around.


As I understand it, now that you have it set to 
"general.useragent.override", ever site you visit will think you are 
using FF V78, not SM.


As an example, I have added some new entries where I changed the string 
accordingly with host I reach;
general.useragent.override.google.com -- string set to: Mozilla/5.0 
(Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/67.0

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Re: Useragent question - in about:config

[Daniel]

Geoff Welsh wrote on 13/04/2020 8:41 AM:

closing out my own question, thanks to some google searches;

the new preference to add in about:config to spoof at will is;

general.useragent.override

view message source on this post and it /should/ say Firefox 74

you can put Chrome or webkit or whatever you want.  :-)

Yeap, I see your User Agent as Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 
10.13; rv:61.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/74.0


but did you notice the pref you listed was "general.useragent.override" 
not the "general.useragent.override.seamonkey" that you quoted first 
time around.


As I understand it, now that you have it set to 
"general.useragent.override", ever site you visit will think you are 
using FF V78, not SM.


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Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Build identifier: 20190609032134


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Re: Useragent question - in about:config

[Geoff Welsh]

closing out my own question, thanks to some google searches;

the new preference to add in about:config to spoof at will is;


general.useragent.override

view message source on this post and it /should/ say Firefox 74


you can put Chrome or webkit or whatever you want.  :-)



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Re: Useragent question - in about:config

[Geoff Welsh]

Daniel wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote on 12/04/2020 4:53 AM:

Is general.useragent.extra.seamonkey no longer functional?

I had written (at some point);  Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 
10.13; rv:61.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/74.0



but when I check at- 
https://www.whatismybrowser.com/detect/what-is-my-user-agent



it shows me Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:60.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.53.1 Lightning/5.8.1


Geoff, where did you get the preference 
"general.useragent.extra.seamonkey" from??


If you enter "about:config" in the browser address bar, and, then, after 
accepting the warning, if you enter "useragent" in the Search: bar, you 
should see all the preferences which include "useragent" in the preference.


On that screen, do you see listed a preference called 
"general.useragent.extra.seamonkey"?? I don't!!


If you do see that preference, in the column labelled "Status", does it 
say "default" or "user set"?? If the later, you (or someone at your 
computer) have set up a specific useragent to be displayed to a 
'seamonkey'.


'www.whatis mybrowser.com' is not 'seamonkey' so your SeaMonkey is 
displaying its real useragent.


It is also possible that when you installed Lightning, it reset your 
general User Agent string to show SeaMonkey/2.53.1 and then added in the 
Lightning/5.8.1




I got the preference from this newsgroup many years ago.  It's user 
added and set.  It was to replace an old preference that the developers 
dropped around the time the "advertise Firefox compatibility" thing started.


I had been modifying it along the way.  Up until this new (2.53) it was 
still fooling web-sites.  Or at least it was still working the last time 
I checked.  I used to be quite active in this group many years ago, but 
lost track at some point.  I would switch it to whatever to try and get 
sites to display.


As to Lightning, I never added that myslef. That happened on it's own. 
If it is not stock in 2.53.1 then possibly during one of the betas I was 
running.(?)  "They" went back and forth on Ligthning between bundled.


Anyway, my question stands, as to whether 2.53 versions no longer 
recognize the user added pref general.useragent.extra.seamonkey


I know there was a huge back-end re-write between 2.49 and now so it 
would make sense, just looking for input from somebody who knows.

GW
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Re: Useragent question - in about:config

[Daniel]

Geoff Welsh wrote on 12/04/2020 4:53 AM:

Is general.useragent.extra.seamonkey no longer functional?

I had written (at some point);  Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 
10.13; rv:61.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/74.0



but when I check at- 
https://www.whatismybrowser.com/detect/what-is-my-user-agent



it shows me Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:60.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.53.1 Lightning/5.8.1


Geoff, where did you get the preference 
"general.useragent.extra.seamonkey" from??


If you enter "about:config" in the browser address bar, and, then, after 
accepting the warning, if you enter "useragent" in the Search: bar, you 
should see all the preferences which include "useragent" in the preference.


On that screen, do you see listed a preference called 
"general.useragent.extra.seamonkey"?? I don't!!


If you do see that preference, in the column labelled "Status", does it 
say "default" or "user set"?? If the later, you (or someone at your 
computer) have set up a specific useragent to be displayed to a 'seamonkey'.


'www.whatis mybrowser.com' is not 'seamonkey' so your SeaMonkey is 
displaying its real useragent.


It is also possible that when you installed Lightning, it reset your 
general User Agent string to show SeaMonkey/2.53.1 and then added in the 
Lightning/5.8.1


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Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Build identifier: 20190609032134


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Useragent question - in about:config

[Geoff Welsh]

Is general.useragent.extra.seamonkey no longer functional?

I had written (at some point);  Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 
10.13; rv:61.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/74.0



but when I check at- 
https://www.whatismybrowser.com/detect/what-is-my-user-agent



it shows me Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:60.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.53.1 Lightning/5.8.1


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e mail question

[Moe Putney]

my wife sends me an email on sea monkey with a MP4 and when I go to open 
it, the default is note pad and It only gives me gobbily gook. How do I 
get my default of note pad to change to a program thea will open the MP4 
info or picture.

I right clicked and tried to see properties but no luck.
Can anyone help me??? I have been enjoying Sea Monkey for years and 
it works great but I need to change the default opener to a program that 
will open my MP4's. Hope you can solve my problem. thanks

Moe Putney.
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Re Moe Putney question

[Moe Putney]

Hi I am 75 years old and have been enjoying using Sea Monkey for many years.
I hope I don't have to change to another program as you have made this 
program so

easy to use for this old guy.
Many thanks for you all making this a super program.
thanks
Moe Putney
Here in Calgary , Alberta  Canada
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Re: Question marks (??????) are included in my messages - why?

[Nuno Silva]

On 2019-10-31, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

> Nuno Silva wrote:
>
>> Try setting (for example, in about:config) the mail.strictly_mime
>> preference to true, which, if I understand correctly, will make
>> Mail use quoted-printable for outgoing messages.
>
> Is that equivalent to this?
>
> Edit | Preferences | Mail & Newsgroups | Text Encoding | Composing Messages:
> [x] For messages that contain 8-bit characters, use 'quoted printable'
> MIME encoding. Leave unchecked to send the messages as is.

It probably is, and it does toggle mail.strictly_mime.

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Re: Question marks (??????) are included in my messages - why?

[Frog]

Nuno Silva wrote:

On 2019-10-31, Frog wrote:


I have been informed that my messages sometimes include a series of
??.  I'm not sure why this happening and if in fact is is me or
something going on with the recipient computer.  It has been suggested
to me that it has to do with two different operating systems being
involved in the process (Microsoft and Apple).  Any thoughts how this
is happening and how I can stop the ?? would be appreciated.



Is this happening with e-mails you send via a Verizon SMTP server? If
so, here's what I wrote about it a couple months ago[1]:

 If this is what I think it is, it should only happen when you use
 the SMTP server from Verizon/AOL/Yahoo/...

 Try setting (for example, in about:config) the mail.strictly_mime
 preference to true, which, if I understand correctly, will make
 Mail use quoted-printable for outgoing messages.

 Bug 1435903 has some details about this:
 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1435903


[1] Message-ID: 


Thanks for your quick response...very much appreciated.

Yes, my server is Verizon and now AOL.  I made the change you suggested 
in your above message.  This is my first message after changing the 
false to true.  I will now wait a few days to see if it has solved my 
problem.


Thanks again for all of the responses sent my way.
Frog

P.S. I'm not sure what "Mail use quoted printable for outgoing 
messages" really means...care to give me a sentence or two on this topic?

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Re: Question marks (??????) are included in my messages - why?

[David E. Ross]

On 10/31/2019 3:11 PM, Frog wrote:
> I have been informed that my messages sometimes include a series of 
> ??.  I'm not sure why this happening and if in fact is is me or 
> something going on with the recipient computer.  It has been suggested 
> to me that it has to do with two different operating systems being 
> involved in the process (Microsoft and Apple).  Any thoughts how this is 
> happening and how I can stop the ?? would be appreciated.
> 
> Frog
> 

Where in your messages do the question marks appear: in the Subject,
elsewhere in the header section, or in the body?

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Re: Question marks (??????) are included in my messages - why?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Nuno Silva wrote:

Try setting (for example, in about:config) the mail.strictly_mime 
preference to true, which, if I understand correctly, will make 
Mail use quoted-printable for outgoing messages.


Is that equivalent to this?

Edit | Preferences | Mail & Newsgroups | Text Encoding | Composing Messages:
[x] For messages that contain 8-bit characters, use 'quoted printable' 
MIME encoding. Leave unchecked to send the messages as is.



P.S. Just wondering OT: since "messages" is plural, shouldn't we say 
"send the messages as are"? ;-)



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Re: Question marks (??????) are included in my messages - why?

[Nuno Silva]

On 2019-10-31, Frog wrote:

> I have been informed that my messages sometimes include a series of
> ??.  I'm not sure why this happening and if in fact is is me or
> something going on with the recipient computer.  It has been suggested
> to me that it has to do with two different operating systems being
> involved in the process (Microsoft and Apple).  Any thoughts how this
> is happening and how I can stop the ?? would be appreciated.


Is this happening with e-mails you send via a Verizon SMTP server? If
so, here's what I wrote about it a couple months ago[1]:

If this is what I think it is, it should only happen when you use
the SMTP server from Verizon/AOL/Yahoo/...

Try setting (for example, in about:config) the mail.strictly_mime
preference to true, which, if I understand correctly, will make
Mail use quoted-printable for outgoing messages.

Bug 1435903 has some details about this:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1435903


[1] Message-ID: 

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Re: Question marks

[mozilla-lists . mbourne]

Frog wrote:
I have been informed that my messages sometimes include a series of 
??.  I'm not sure why this happening and if in fact is is me or 
something going on with the recipient computer.  It has been suggested 
to me that it has to do with two different operating systems being 
involved in the process (Microsoft and Apple).  Any thoughts how this is 
happening and how I can stop the ?? would be appreciated.


There was something similar on a thread titled "Invalid Characters" 
starting 16th August 2019.  Possibly related to incorrect handling by 
Verizon/AOL/Yahoo (and others in the same group) SMTP servers.


Suggestion from Nuno Silva on that thread:

Try setting (for example, in about:config) the mail.strictly_mime
preference to true, which, if I understand correctly, will make
Mail use quoted-printable for outgoing messages.


I've noticed extra "?"s in email from my father, using Thunderbird to 
send through AOL, so need to see if that fix works for him... but I 
haven't got around to trying it yet.


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Question marks (??????) are included in my messages - why?

[Frog]

I have been informed that my messages sometimes include a series of 
??.  I'm not sure why this happening and if in fact is is me or 
something going on with the recipient computer.  It has been suggested 
to me that it has to do with two different operating systems being 
involved in the process (Microsoft and Apple).  Any thoughts how this is 
happening and how I can stop the ?? would be appreciated.


Frog
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Re: Question about e-mails with columns

[Mort Linder]

Just returned from a trip.

Thanks to all of you for your helpful suggestions, which I do appreciate.

Best,

Mort Linder

Mort Linder wrote:

Hi,

When I send an e-mail with neatly typed vertical columns, they become 
randomized in transmission and often become illegible.


How can I send out an e-mail where the columns look the same as the 
original?


Mort Linder

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Re: Profile Location Question SM 2.49.4 W10 Pro

[bo1953]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/14/2019 11:12 AM, sameul s wrote:

Hello all,

I, unfortunately now, have a few profiles on my hard drive related to SM.

I need to re-install SM and find that my SM Profile Manager is not
working and will not load so I can figure out which are the most current
profiles to use.

Any recommendations for me on this one?

TIA - bo1953



On the menu bar, select [Help > Troubleshooting Information].  Under
Application Basics, to the right of Profile Folder, select the Open
Folder button.  This will open whatever is the actual folder for your
current profile.



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Re: Profile Location Question SM 2.49.4 W10 Pro

[David E. Ross]

On 7/14/2019 11:12 AM, sameul s wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I, unfortunately now, have a few profiles on my hard drive related to SM.
> 
> I need to re-install SM and find that my SM Profile Manager is not 
> working and will not load so I can figure out which are the most current 
> profiles to use.
> 
> Any recommendations for me on this one?
> 
> TIA - bo1953
> 

On the menu bar, select [Help > Troubleshooting Information].  Under
Application Basics, to the right of Profile Folder, select the Open
Folder button.  This will open whatever is the actual folder for your
current profile.

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Profile Location Question SM 2.49.4 W10 Pro

[sameul s]

Hello all,

I, unfortunately now, have a few profiles on my hard drive related to SM.

I need to re-install SM and find that my SM Profile Manager is not 
working and will not load so I can figure out which are the most current 
profiles to use.


Any recommendations for me on this one?

TIA - bo1953
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Re: Question about e-mails with columns

[EE]

Mort Linder wrote:

Hi,

When I send an e-mail with neatly typed vertical columns, they become 
randomized in transmission and often become illegible.


How can I send out an e-mail where the columns look the same as the original?

Mort Linder

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The compose window uses monospace font, and the message window uses 
proportional font.  That is why the columns do not line up.  Maybe compose the 
message with an editor that uses proportional font and then copy it to the 
compose window?

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Re: Question about e-mails with columns

[David E. Ross]

On 7/5/2019 1:37 PM, Mort Linder wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> When I send an e-mail with neatly typed vertical columns, they become 
> randomized in transmission and often become illegible.
> 
> How can I send out an e-mail where the columns look the same as the 
> original?
> 
> Mort Linder
> 

If you are formatting your E-mail as HTML, that causes your problem.
There are actually two problems with HTML-formatted E-mails.

One is the fact that not all E-mail applications handle HTML in the same
manner.  Even if your recipient also is viewing the message as HTML, his
or her application might not handle tables the same way, especially if
you are using a font that the recipient does not have.

The other problem -- more likely -- is that the recipient is viewing
E-mail as plain text, which fails to use the formatting you created with
HTML.

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Re: Question about e-mails with columns

[Paul in Houston, TX]

Mort Linder wrote:

Hi,

When I send an e-mail with neatly typed vertical columns, they become
randomized in transmission and often become illegible.

How can I send out an e-mail where the columns look the same as the
original?

Mort Linder


I use tabs or periods as column breaks.


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Re: Question about e-mails with columns

[WaltS48]

On 7/5/19 4:37 PM, Mort Linder wrote:

Hi,

When I send an e-mail with neatly typed vertical columns, they become 
randomized in transmission and often become illegible.


How can I send out an e-mail where the columns look the same as the 
original?


Mort Linder



Do you mean how does the recipient view the mail in the same way you 
sent it?


How are you making the neatly typed vertical columns?

Using Insert > Table... in HTML composition should help.


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Question about e-mails with columns

[Mort Linder]

Hi,

When I send an e-mail with neatly typed vertical columns, they become 
randomized in transmission and often become illegible.


How can I send out an e-mail where the columns look the same as the 
original?


Mort Linder

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Re: OT Facebook question

[sean]

Smiles wrote on 08/23/2018 05:08 AM:

A friend's wife was killed in a car accident and her cell phone destroyed.
She never back it up but over 3000 photos were downloaded to her 
Facebook account is there any easy way of downloading them all without 
selecting each photo. she has others that are lost for ever because they 
were never posted


Sorry I do not use or have a Facebook account so I have noidea

regards
Smiles


FB has a tool to download all data, which includes all photos... 
additionally, most phones will automagically back up all photos to their 
phone's cloud data base unless the owner has opted out...




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Re: OT Facebook question

[Arnie Goetchius]

Mason83 wrote:
> On 23/08/2018 14:08, Smiles wrote:
> 
>> A friend's wife was killed in a car accident and her cell phone destroyed.
>> She never back it up but over 3000 photos were downloaded to her 
>> Facebook account is there any easy way of downloading them all without 
>> selecting each photo. she has others that are lost for ever because they 
>> were never posted
>>
>> Sorry I do not use or have a Facebook account so I have noidea
> 
> Does the woman's husband have her FB login and password?
> 
> If yes, then FB now allows one to download everything from one's
> account, including uploaded pictures, I suppose.
> 
> Regards.
> 
Assuming FB login and password are available, Google the following:

download photos from facebook account
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Re: OT Facebook question

[Mason83]

On 23/08/2018 14:08, Smiles wrote:

> A friend's wife was killed in a car accident and her cell phone destroyed.
> She never back it up but over 3000 photos were downloaded to her 
> Facebook account is there any easy way of downloading them all without 
> selecting each photo. she has others that are lost for ever because they 
> were never posted
> 
> Sorry I do not use or have a Facebook account so I have noidea

Does the woman's husband have her FB login and password?

If yes, then FB now allows one to download everything from one's
account, including uploaded pictures, I suppose.

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Re: OT Facebook question

[Lee]

On 8/23/18, Smiles  wrote:
> A friend's wife was killed in a car accident and her cell phone destroyed.
> She never back it up but over 3000 photos were downloaded to her
> Facebook account is there any easy way of downloading them all without
> selecting each photo. she has others that are lost for ever because they
> were never posted
>
> Sorry I do not use or have a Facebook account so I have noidea

I've never used facebook, so I don't know if this would work or no but
the first thing I'd try is the down them all addon:
  https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/downthemall/

2nd choice would be your favorite search engine - wanting to download
all the images from a webpage is a popular question with lots of
answers.

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OT Facebook question

[Smiles]

A friend's wife was killed in a car accident and her cell phone destroyed.
She never back it up but over 3000 photos were downloaded to her 
Facebook account is there any easy way of downloading them all without 
selecting each photo. she has others that are lost for ever because they 
were never posted


Sorry I do not use or have a Facebook account so I have noidea

regards
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Re: System Security Question

[Frog]

WaltS48 wrote:

On 7/20/18 7:44 PM, Lee wrote:

On 7/20/18, WaltS48  wrote:

On 7/18/18 6:13 PM, Frog wrote:

Question about Webroot Secure Anywhere Security and Windows Defender
Security on a Windows 10 system.  Webroot is currently protecting my
system and Windows Defender is turned off.  Is this the way my system
settings should be configured?

Frog



I just came across this and thought it might interest you.

<https://news.softpedia.com/news/windows-defender-is-the-best-windows-10-antivirus-522035.shtml> 


    "German institute AV-TEST’s latest research shows that Windows
Defender has improved detection capabilities and it now blocks most of
the known and zero-day malware on Windows 10."

Oopsie.. the reviewer left off the bit about how the 'German institute
AV-TEST' doesn't rate it as a top product:
https://www.av-test.org/en/antivirus/home-windows/

Lee




You left off the part that the Webroot Secure Anywhere Security doesn't 
even appear as a product on that list.


Tanks to all (WaltS4, Paul in Houston, TX, and Lee) for your words of 
wisdom.


I thought it was a bad thing to have two virus scan applications active 
simultaneously on a system...I only had Webroot active on my system.  I 
am not plugging any software programs but...I have had Webroot on my 
systems for over five years without a single problem.  I thought it 
would be interesting (when time permits) to turn Webroot off temporarily 
and then run a Windows Defender full scan against my system.


Well, thanks again for your help...it was much appreciated.

Frog
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Re: System Security Question

[WaltS48]

On 7/20/18 7:44 PM, Lee wrote:

On 7/20/18, WaltS48  wrote:

On 7/18/18 6:13 PM, Frog wrote:

Question about Webroot Secure Anywhere Security and Windows Defender
Security on a Windows 10 system.  Webroot is currently protecting my
system and Windows Defender is turned off.  Is this the way my system
settings should be configured?

Frog



I just came across this and thought it might interest you.

<https://news.softpedia.com/news/windows-defender-is-the-best-windows-10-antivirus-522035.shtml>

"German institute AV-TEST’s latest research shows that Windows
Defender has improved detection capabilities and it now blocks most of
the known and zero-day malware on Windows 10."

Oopsie.. the reviewer left off the bit about how the 'German institute
AV-TEST' doesn't rate it as a top product:
https://www.av-test.org/en/antivirus/home-windows/

Lee




You left off the part that the Webroot Secure Anywhere Security doesn't 
even appear as a product on that list.


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Re: System Security Question

[Lee]

On 7/20/18, WaltS48  wrote:
> On 7/18/18 6:13 PM, Frog wrote:
>> Question about Webroot Secure Anywhere Security and Windows Defender
>> Security on a Windows 10 system.  Webroot is currently protecting my
>> system and Windows Defender is turned off.  Is this the way my system
>> settings should be configured?
>>
>> Frog
>
>
> I just came across this and thought it might interest you.
>
> <https://news.softpedia.com/news/windows-defender-is-the-best-windows-10-antivirus-522035.shtml>
   "German institute AV-TEST’s latest research shows that Windows
Defender has improved detection capabilities and it now blocks most of
the known and zero-day malware on Windows 10."

Oopsie.. the reviewer left off the bit about how the 'German institute
AV-TEST' doesn't rate it as a top product:
https://www.av-test.org/en/antivirus/home-windows/

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Re: System Security Question

[WaltS48]

On 7/18/18 6:13 PM, Frog wrote:
Question about Webroot Secure Anywhere Security and Windows Defender 
Security on a Windows 10 system.  Webroot is currently protecting my 
system and Windows Defender is turned off.  Is this the way my system 
settings should be configured?


Frog



I just came across this and thought it might interest you.

<https://news.softpedia.com/news/windows-defender-is-the-best-windows-10-antivirus-522035.shtml>

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Re: System Security Question

[Paul in Houston, TX]

Frog wrote:

Question about Webroot Secure Anywhere Security and Windows Defender Security 
on a Windows
10 system.  Webroot is currently protecting my system and Windows Defender is 
turned off.
Is this the way my system settings should be configured?

Frog


Allow only one virus shield at a time.
Scan weekly (or more frequently if problems) with several virus scanners.
No single virus scanner will catch everything.


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Re: System Security Question

[WaltS48]

On 07/18/2018 06:13 PM, Frog wrote:
Question about Webroot Secure Anywhere Security and Windows Defender 
Security on a Windows 10 system.  Webroot is currently protecting my 
system and Windows Defender is turned off.  Is this the way my system 
settings should be configured?


Frog



I let Windows Defender handle everything.
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System Security Question

[Frog]

Question about Webroot Secure Anywhere Security and Windows Defender 
Security on a Windows 10 system.  Webroot is currently protecting my 
system and Windows Defender is turned off.  Is this the way my system 
settings should be configured?


Frog
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Re: Question about Mozilla Sunbird

[sean]

null wrote on 06/20/2018 03:03 AM:
Development of Sunbird, the Mozilla Calendar and appointments app, was 
discontinued quite a while back, but I have continued to use it without 
problems. Unfortunately, the HD I was running it on started to play up 
and I lost access, so I installed it on another computer and carried on.


I have now resurrected the "bad" HD, but I want to transfer all the 
historical data sitting there in Sunbird to the new computer. Problem 
is, I cannot figure out what Sunbird file this data resides in, so I 
cannot even attempt to transfer the file to the new install in the hope 
that Sunbird will somehow pick it up and display the contents.


Can't find any info about this anywhere, so I'm posting my query here in 
case there is someone who can help.


Isn't it cool when the archives of mozilla newsgrousp can help solve a 
problem?


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Re: Question about Mozilla Sunbird

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null wrote on 21/06/2018 11:51 PM:

Daniel wrote:

null wrote on 20/06/2018 8:03 PM:
Development of Sunbird, the Mozilla Calendar and appointments app, 
was discontinued quite a while back, but I have continued to use it 
without problems. Unfortunately, the HD I was running it on started 
to play up and I lost access, so I installed it on another computer 
and carried on.


I have now resurrected the "bad" HD, but I want to transfer all the 
historical data sitting there in Sunbird to the new computer. Problem 
is, I cannot figure out what Sunbird file this data resides in, so I 
cannot even attempt to transfer the file to the new install in the 
hope that Sunbird will somehow pick it up and display the contents.


Can't find any info about this anywhere, so I'm posting my query here 
in case there is someone who can help.


As you suggest, Sunbird is very, very, old, and, I think, you'll find 
no longer supported.


However there is now an extension called "Lightning" which, I think, 
does the same sort of stuff, and you might find support for it in the 
newsgroup mozilla.support.calender on this server.


Give it a go.
You are right -- Sunbird is very, very, very old, and is no longer 
supported. But then, I'm also very, very, very old too, but things still 
seem to work okay. Wait ... what was that creaking sound?


I had looked through the Mozilla group names but failed to see the 
calendar one, so thanks for that! Subscribed, did a search for Sunbird, 
and found a thread back in 2012 that discussed precisely my problem. I 
simply moved the content of the existing profiles fold out and replaced 
it with the old stuff that I have recovered, and the whole think worked 
perfectly displaying all the old data. So again, thanks for that tip!



No problem!

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SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171016030418


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Re: Question about Mozilla Sunbird

[null]

Daniel wrote:

null wrote on 20/06/2018 8:03 PM:
Development of Sunbird, the Mozilla Calendar and appointments app, 
was discontinued quite a while back, but I have continued to use it 
without problems. Unfortunately, the HD I was running it on started 
to play up and I lost access, so I installed it on another computer 
and carried on.


I have now resurrected the "bad" HD, but I want to transfer all the 
historical data sitting there in Sunbird to the new computer. Problem 
is, I cannot figure out what Sunbird file this data resides in, so I 
cannot even attempt to transfer the file to the new install in the 
hope that Sunbird will somehow pick it up and display the contents.


Can't find any info about this anywhere, so I'm posting my query here 
in case there is someone who can help.


As you suggest, Sunbird is very, very, old, and, I think, you'll find 
no longer supported.


However there is now an extension called "Lightning" which, I think, 
does the same sort of stuff, and you might find support for it in the 
newsgroup mozilla.support.calender on this server.


Give it a go.
You are right -- Sunbird is very, very, very old, and is no longer 
supported. But then, I'm also very, very, very old too, but things still 
seem to work okay. Wait ... what was that creaking sound?


I had looked through the Mozilla group names but failed to see the 
calendar one, so thanks for that! Subscribed, did a search for Sunbird, 
and found a thread back in 2012 that discussed precisely my problem. I 
simply moved the content of the existing profiles fold out and replaced 
it with the old stuff that I have recovered, and the whole think worked 
perfectly displaying all the old data. So again, thanks for that tip!


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Re: Question about Mozilla Sunbird

[Daniel]

null wrote on 20/06/2018 8:03 PM:
Development of Sunbird, the Mozilla Calendar and appointments app, was 
discontinued quite a while back, but I have continued to use it without 
problems. Unfortunately, the HD I was running it on started to play up 
and I lost access, so I installed it on another computer and carried on.


I have now resurrected the "bad" HD, but I want to transfer all the 
historical data sitting there in Sunbird to the new computer. Problem 
is, I cannot figure out what Sunbird file this data resides in, so I 
cannot even attempt to transfer the file to the new install in the hope 
that Sunbird will somehow pick it up and display the contents.


Can't find any info about this anywhere, so I'm posting my query here in 
case there is someone who can help.


As you suggest, Sunbird is very, very, old, and, I think, you'll find no 
longer supported.


However there is now an extension called "Lightning" which, I think, 
does the same sort of stuff, and you might find support for it in the 
newsgroup mozilla.support.calender on this server.


Give it a go.
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Question about Mozilla Sunbird

[null]

Development of Sunbird, the Mozilla Calendar and appointments app, was 
discontinued quite a while back, but I have continued to use it without 
problems. Unfortunately, the HD I was running it on started to play up 
and I lost access, so I installed it on another computer and carried on.


I have now resurrected the "bad" HD, but I want to transfer all the 
historical data sitting there in Sunbird to the new computer. Problem 
is, I cannot figure out what Sunbird file this data resides in, so I 
cannot even attempt to transfer the file to the new install in the hope 
that Sunbird will somehow pick it up and display the contents.


Can't find any info about this anywhere, so I'm posting my query here in 
case there is someone who can help.

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Re: TLS question

[Lee]

On 6/18/18, Andy K  wrote:
> If I have TLS 1.0,1.1, and 1.2 checked off, will my browser use the most
> secure version whenever it connnects?

As long as there's no man-in-the-middle - yes.  see
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downgrade_attack

Some anti-virus products play MITM so they can check your web traffic;
a browser tls check site is
  https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/viewMyClient.html

In the 'probably not worth worrying about as long as you don't click
through security warnings' category are
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNS_cache_poisoning
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BGP_hijacking
which can introduce a MITM.

> Some sites do not work if I have only 1.1 and 1.2 ticked off.

Which ones?

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TLS question

[Andy K]

If I have TLS 1.0,1.1, and 1.2 checked off, will my browser use the most secure 
version whenever it connnects?

Some sites do not work if I have only 1.1 and 1.2 ticked off.

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Re: Yet another question, about right click menu

[GerardJan]

Jeffrey Needle wrote:

On Saturday, May 26, 2018 at 6:45:45 AM UTC+8, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Jeffrey Needle wrote:


What I'm hoping to do is to be able to insert frequently-used text
snippets into an email, and also in a Composer document. I'd love to
be able to get word count for Composer, but I don't think I'm going
to get that. The ability to insert the date into an email would also
be helpful. Thanks.

Incidentally, I can do a lot of this in Tbird.  I'm assuming the
extensions that work in Tbird won't work in SM.


  From the sound of it, you should be composing in a word processor,
which is designed with these features plus spell-checking. When you're
done, copy/paste to a text editor like Notepad to remove all the crud,
and then copy/paste from there to your HTML editor for formatting.

You can still do minor revisions in your HTML editor, but realistically
that's not what they're designed for. To work with large volumes of
text, use a tool designed for that.

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I suppose this is right.  I do have LibreOffice installed on the
same Linux box.  I was hoping to do everything under one roof.

Thanks.



Yes, Paul, I have the same

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Re: Yet another question, about right click menu

[Jeffrey Needle]

On Saturday, May 26, 2018 at 6:45:45 AM UTC+8, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> Jeffrey Needle wrote:
> 
> > What I'm hoping to do is to be able to insert frequently-used text
> > snippets into an email, and also in a Composer document. I'd love to
> > be able to get word count for Composer, but I don't think I'm going
> > to get that. The ability to insert the date into an email would also
> > be helpful. Thanks.
> > 
> > Incidentally, I can do a lot of this in Tbird.  I'm assuming the
> > extensions that work in Tbird won't work in SM.
> 
>  From the sound of it, you should be composing in a word processor, 
> which is designed with these features plus spell-checking. When you're 
> done, copy/paste to a text editor like Notepad to remove all the crud, 
> and then copy/paste from there to your HTML editor for formatting.
> 
> You can still do minor revisions in your HTML editor, but realistically 
> that's not what they're designed for. To work with large volumes of 
> text, use a tool designed for that.
> 
> -- 
> War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
> --
> Paul B. Gallagher

I suppose this is right.  I do have LibreOffice installed on the 
same Linux box.  I was hoping to do everything under one roof.

Thanks.
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Re: Yet another question, about right click menu

[Jeffrey Needle]

On Saturday, May 26, 2018 at 6:57:06 AM UTC+8, David H. Durgee wrote:
> Jeffrey Needle wrote:
> > On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 4:48:57 PM UTC+8, Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
> >> Thu, 24 May 2018 17:34:45 -0700 (PDT), _Jeffrey Needle_:
> >>
> >>> I'm wondering if there is a way to add "Word Count" to the right click
> >>> menu in SM. I can't find a way, after searching on the web.
> >>
> >> What's the context of the right-click you're up to – web page, mail
> >> message, other?  Would it be available only for selected text, or
> >> complete web page/mail message also?  Could you give a reference/example
> >> of another software which already does it, like another browser or user
> >> extension to it?
> >>
> >> It is certainly possible to add such item to SeaMonkey context menus,
> >> though I'm not aware of existing add-on/extension which does the exact
> >> thing you're after.
> >>
> >> -- 
> >> Stanimir
> > 
> > What I'm hoping to do is to be able to insert frequently-used text snippets
> > into an email, and also in a Composer document.  I'd love to be able to get
> > word count for Composer, but I don't think I'm going to get that.  The 
> > ability
> > to insert the date into an email would also be helpful.  Thanks.
> > 
> > Incidentally, I can do a lot of this in Tbird.  I'm assuming the extensions
> > that work in Tbird won't work in SM.
> > 
> 
> Actually a T-Bird might work as there is a common code base.  If not 
> as-is a T-Bird extension might work after being processed by the same 
> converter used on FireFox extensions.
> 
> Dave

My goodness. Way above my pay grade.  I'll await further
competence on my part.  Thanks.
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Re: Yet another question, about right click menu

[David H. Durgee]

Jeffrey Needle wrote:

On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 4:48:57 PM UTC+8, Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Thu, 24 May 2018 17:34:45 -0700 (PDT), _Jeffrey Needle_:


I'm wondering if there is a way to add "Word Count" to the right click
menu in SM. I can't find a way, after searching on the web.


What's the context of the right-click you're up to – web page, mail
message, other?  Would it be available only for selected text, or
complete web page/mail message also?  Could you give a reference/example
of another software which already does it, like another browser or user
extension to it?

It is certainly possible to add such item to SeaMonkey context menus,
though I'm not aware of existing add-on/extension which does the exact
thing you're after.

--
Stanimir


What I'm hoping to do is to be able to insert frequently-used text snippets
into an email, and also in a Composer document.  I'd love to be able to get
word count for Composer, but I don't think I'm going to get that.  The ability
to insert the date into an email would also be helpful.  Thanks.

Incidentally, I can do a lot of this in Tbird.  I'm assuming the extensions
that work in Tbird won't work in SM.



Actually a T-Bird might work as there is a common code base.  If not 
as-is a T-Bird extension might work after being processed by the same 
converter used on FireFox extensions.


Dave
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Re: Yet another question, about right click menu

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Jeffrey Needle wrote:


What I'm hoping to do is to be able to insert frequently-used text
snippets into an email, and also in a Composer document. I'd love to
be able to get word count for Composer, but I don't think I'm going
to get that. The ability to insert the date into an email would also
be helpful. Thanks.

Incidentally, I can do a lot of this in Tbird.  I'm assuming the
extensions that work in Tbird won't work in SM.


From the sound of it, you should be composing in a word processor, 
which is designed with these features plus spell-checking. When you're 
done, copy/paste to a text editor like Notepad to remove all the crud, 
and then copy/paste from there to your HTML editor for formatting.


You can still do minor revisions in your HTML editor, but realistically 
that's not what they're designed for. To work with large volumes of 
text, use a tool designed for that.


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Re: Yet another question, about right click menu

[Jeffrey Needle]

On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 4:48:57 PM UTC+8, Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
> Thu, 24 May 2018 17:34:45 -0700 (PDT), _Jeffrey Needle_:
> 
> > I'm wondering if there is a way to add "Word Count" to the right click
> > menu in SM. I can't find a way, after searching on the web.
> 
> What's the context of the right-click you're up to – web page, mail 
> message, other?  Would it be available only for selected text, or 
> complete web page/mail message also?  Could you give a reference/example 
> of another software which already does it, like another browser or user 
> extension to it?
> 
> It is certainly possible to add such item to SeaMonkey context menus, 
> though I'm not aware of existing add-on/extension which does the exact 
> thing you're after.
> 
> -- 
> Stanimir

What I'm hoping to do is to be able to insert frequently-used text snippets 
into an email, and also in a Composer document.  I'd love to be able to get 
word count for Composer, but I don't think I'm going to get that.  The ability 
to insert the date into an email would also be helpful.  Thanks.

Incidentally, I can do a lot of this in Tbird.  I'm assuming the extensions 
that work in Tbird won't work in SM.
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Re: Yet another question, about right click menu

[Stanimir Stamenkov via support-seamonkey]

Thu, 24 May 2018 17:34:45 -0700 (PDT), _Jeffrey Needle_:


I'm wondering if there is a way to add "Word Count" to the right click
menu in SM. I can't find a way, after searching on the web.


What's the context of the right-click you're up to – web page, mail 
message, other?  Would it be available only for selected text, or 
complete web page/mail message also?  Could you give a reference/example 
of another software which already does it, like another browser or user 
extension to it?


It is certainly possible to add such item to SeaMonkey context menus, 
though I'm not aware of existing add-on/extension which does the exact 
thing you're after.


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Yet another question, about right click menu

[Jeffrey Needle]

Okay, yes, I'm a pest.  Sorry.

I'm wondering if there is a way to add "Word Count" to the right click
menu in SM. I can't find a way, after searching on the web.

As always, thanks.
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Re: Off Topic Question about Newsgroup Accounts

[GerardJan]

DoctorBill wrote:

In total ignorance - I ask here as I don't know where to ask !

Somehow I got into this Mozilla newsgroup - can't remember how - long time ago.

I want to ask questions about Windows 7 and when googling, I found that there is 
a Newsgroup called "alt.windows7.general" - found on "www.w7forums.com/".


Is that Newsgroup anything like THIS news group (Mozilla.org) which I access 
thru my SM Mail ?


If so, I have NO CLUE how to set it up (account?).

Most highly confused DoctorBill




you need to have a provider like www.xs4all.nl (i don't)

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Re: Another question, if I may, about inserting graphics in emails

[Jeffrey Needle]

On Monday, May 14, 2018 at 6:23:39 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Needle wrote:
> Hello again.
> 
> I can easily insert a graphic into an email, but I must check a box that says 
> no caption needed.  In Thunderbird, this choice is remembered, but not in SM. 
>  Any setting so I don't have to set this option each time?  And any way to 
> keep the download box from popping up each time I insert a graphic into an 
> email?
> 
> Thanks.

I use Insert Image.  Is this incorrect?
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Re: Another question, if I may, about inserting graphics in emails

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Ray_Net wrote:

Jeffrey Needle wrote on 15-05-18 03:23:

Hello again.

I can easily insert a graphic into an email, but I must check a box that says 
no caption needed.  In Thunderbird, this choice is remembered, but not in SM.  
Any setting so I don't have to set this option each time?  And any way to keep 
the download box from popping up each time I insert a graphic into an email?


Thanks.

I do a simple copy/paste and I never encouter a check box ...

+1

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Re: Another question, if I may, about inserting graphics in emails

[Ray_Net]

Jeffrey Needle wrote on 15-05-18 03:23:

Hello again.

I can easily insert a graphic into an email, but I must check a box that says 
no caption needed.  In Thunderbird, this choice is remembered, but not in SM.  
Any setting so I don't have to set this option each time?  And any way to keep 
the download box from popping up each time I insert a graphic into an email?

Thanks.

I do a simple copy/paste and I never encouter a check box ...
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Another question, if I may, about inserting graphics in emails

[Jeffrey Needle]

Hello again.

I can easily insert a graphic into an email, but I must check a box that says 
no caption needed.  In Thunderbird, this choice is remembered, but not in SM.  
Any setting so I don't have to set this option each time?  And any way to keep 
the download box from popping up each time I insert a graphic into an email?

Thanks.
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Remove Duplicate Messages Program Quick Question - W10 Pro SM 2.49.2 Desktop

[bo1953]

Hello all,

I Am running a desktop w/Win 10 Pro and SM 2.49.2 and encounter many 
duplicate messages.


I have tried many of the fixes shown in the help section online and 
still having some issues.


I did have RDM (Alt) installed and it did not work and was wondering if 
anyone still uses this program or the original with the aforementioned 
OS/SM version and it works? If not, what program can be recommended, if 
any, to slay the dupe messages?


TIA - bo1953
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Re: I306 1200 -- "File Edit View Insert ... Help" line question

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On 3/6/2018 9:00 AM, Frank Nemec wrote:
> Hello --
> 
> At the top of the SeaMonkey window, there used to be a line of links(?) --
> 
> "File  Edit  View  Insert  ...  Help" more-or-less...
> 
> Either I caused it to disappear through an inadvertent finger-check, or 
> it disappeared with the last SeaMonkey upgrade.
> 
> OS is Windows7 Version 6.1 (Build 7601 Service Pack 1)
> 
> SeaMonkey is 2.48 or later, I think -- I don't know how to determine 
> release/version
>                  other than clicking "Help" and clicking "About 
> SeaMonkey"... and the line with "Help"in it ain't there anymore!
> 
> I first noticed the loss when I attempted doing "Find on this page" -- 
> not having that available is a real handicap.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Frank Nemec
> 
> mtn0ys...@peoplepc.com
> 

If your SeaMonkey window fills your monitor screen with a minimal tool
bar at the top, try pressing F11.  This toggles between a full-screen
window and standard window.

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Re: I306 1200 -- "File Edit View Insert ... Help" line question

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Frank Nemec wrote:


Hello --

At the top of the SeaMonkey window, there used to be a line of links(?) --

"File  Edit  View  Insert  ...  Help" more-or-less...


This is called the "Menu Bar."

Either I caused it to disappear through an inadvertent finger-check, or 
it disappeared with the last SeaMonkey upgrade.


OS is Windows7 Version 6.1 (Build 7601 Service Pack 1)

SeaMonkey is 2.48 or later, I think -- I don't know how to determine 
release/version
                 other than clicking "Help" and clicking "About 
SeaMonkey"... and the line with "Help"in it ain't there anymore!


I first noticed the loss when I attempted doing "Find on this page" -- 
not having that available is a real handicap.


There are keyboard shortcuts for these, but you can also restore the menu.

For version number (Help | About), you can do Alt-H, A.

For "Find in this page," you can do CTRL-F.

To restore the menu, look along the left edge of the page for a little 
speckled rectangle with a little black triangle in it. There should be 
several, oriented vertically (taller than they are wide), one alongside 
each toolbar. If you see one oriented horizontally (wider than it is 
tall), without a toolbar or anything next to it, it's hiding something. 
Click it to reveal its contents.


If that doesn't help (you don't see anything that looks like what I 
described, or what you revealed isn't what you're looking for), try 
Alt-V, W (View | Show/Hide) and you should get a drop-down list of 
things to show or hide. Make sure there's a check next to "Menu Bar." 
That should reveal the menu, or at least the corresponding speckled 
rectangle. If you just get a speckled rectangle, you already know what 
to do: click it to reveal its contents.


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Re: I306 1200 -- "File Edit View Insert ... Help" line question

[Richmond]

Frank Nemec wrote:
> Hello --
> 
> At the top of the SeaMonkey window, there used to be a line of links(?) --
> 
> "File  Edit  View  Insert  ...  Help" more-or-less...
> 
> Either I caused it to disappear through an inadvertent finger-check, or
> it disappeared with the last SeaMonkey upgrade.
> 
> OS is Windows7 Version 6.1 (Build 7601 Service Pack 1)
> 
> SeaMonkey is 2.48 or later, I think -- I don't know how to determine
> release/version
>                 other than clicking "Help" and clicking "About
> SeaMonkey"... and the line with "Help"in it ain't there anymore!
> 
> I first noticed the loss when I attempted doing "Find on this page" --
> not having that available is a real handicap.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Frank Nemec
> 
> mtn0ys...@peoplepc.com
> 

Try pressing alt-V -> Show/hide -> Menu bar
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Re: I306 1200 -- "File Edit View Insert ... Help" line question

[EE]

Frank Nemec wrote:

Hello --

At the top of the SeaMonkey window, there used to be a line of links(?) --

"File  Edit  View  Insert  ...  Help" more-or-less...

Either I caused it to disappear through an inadvertent finger-check, or 
it disappeared with the last SeaMonkey upgrade.


OS is Windows7 Version 6.1 (Build 7601 Service Pack 1)

SeaMonkey is 2.48 or later, I think -- I don't know how to determine 
release/version
                 other than clicking "Help" and clicking "About 
SeaMonkey"... and the line with "Help"in it ain't there anymore!


I first noticed the loss when I attempted doing "Find on this page" -- 
not having that available is a real handicap.


Regards,

Frank Nemec

mtn0ys...@peoplepc.com

Press the Alt key on the keyboard, then when the menu bar appears, pull 
down View and check "Menu Bar" there.


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I306 1200 -- "File Edit View Insert ... Help" line question

[Frank Nemec via support-seamonkey]

Hello --

At the top of the SeaMonkey window, there used to be a line of links(?) --

"File  Edit  View  Insert  ...  Help" more-or-less...

Either I caused it to disappear through an inadvertent finger-check, or 
it disappeared with the last SeaMonkey upgrade.


OS is Windows7 Version 6.1 (Build 7601 Service Pack 1)

SeaMonkey is 2.48 or later, I think -- I don't know how to determine 
release/version
                other than clicking "Help" and clicking "About 
SeaMonkey"... and the line with "Help"in it ain't there anymore!


I first noticed the loss when I attempted doing "Find on this page" -- 
not having that available is a real handicap.


Regards,

Frank Nemec

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Re: my wonderful Seamonkey... an imap question

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sean nathan wrote:

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

sean nathan wrote:
Welcome to February fellow Seamonkey devotees! I have performed a 
fresh install of SM 2.49.1 today after a distro upgrade to 
PeppermintOS linux 8 respin 2.


All of my imap accounts worked flawlessly as I created each account. 
I have generally stuck to pop3 access in the past, but I am finding 
out via imap that e'mail that I thought I had deleted long ago, by 
downloading to my machines, still resides on the e'mail servers.


Wondering if I am missing some checkbox which deletes the email from 
the servers? I have always assumed the act of downloading my e'mail 
removes the copy from cox.net, gmail & outlook... all of my yahoo 
accounts work that way.


IMAP synchronises emails on the PC with the server. Downloaded emails 
stay on the server. If you delete an email from the PC, it also gets 
deleted from the server. If you delete on the server, it will be 
deleted from the PC next time it syncs.


POP3 downloads email from the server to the PC. Whether it is left on 
the server having done so is optional. See the settings at Edit > Mail 
& Newsgroups Account Settings > (select your account) > Server 
Settings, in particular "Leave messages on server", "For at 
most...days" and "Until I delete them".


GMail is different (as always...) When using POP3, the server ignores 
the client's instructions as to whether to delete the email. Instead 
you have to log in to  and go to GMail's 
settings. On the "Forwarding and POP/IMAP" tab is a setting "When 
messages are accessed with POP" with options "keep Gmail's copy in the 
Inbox", "mark Gmail's copy as read", "archive Gmail's copy" or "delete 
Gmail's copy".





Therein lies my dilemma, I never delete non-spam e'mail, but I do move 
it from the inbox to my decades of archived mail in the local folders. 
It resides on my machine permanently as an interactive diary of sorts...


Only Yahoo seems to be properly configured to allow mail removed from 
"Inbox" to be deleted.


Gmail moves copies into three separate imap folders... and I have to go 
to Cox cable & Outlook webmail to delete previously moved e'mail 
manually...


Gmail allows emails to be given multiple "labels", which it presents as 
folders in IMAP, resulting in copies in multiple IMAP folders. All 
incoming email appears in "Inbox" (or "Spam") and "All Mail". I'm not 
sure what the third one you refer to is?


There are a few settings in Gmail's web interface which might help...

(Gmail) Settings > Labels:

- Untick "Show in IMAP" next to the "All Mail" label
--- Prevents that label from being shown as a folder in IMAP along with 
duplicates of all emails.


- I also untick "Show in IMAP" next to the "Important" label
--- Avoids duplicates showing up in that IMAP folder. You might want to 
keep this one, depending whether you use the "Important" label, but if 
you do you'll need to delete "important" emails from both the Inbox and 
Important IMAP folders. Similarly you might want to untick the "Starred" 
label if you don't use that.


(Gmail) Settings > Forwarding and POP/IMAP:

- When I mark a message in IMAP as deleted: Auto-Expunge off
--- Avoids Gmail immediately deleting messages if SeaMonkey is set to 
mark messages as deleted, so you get the chance to un-delete them before 
compacting the folder to actually delete the messages marked as deleted.


- When a message is marked as deleted and expunged from the last visible 
IMAP folder: Immediately delete the message forever
--- If SeaMonkey is set to mark messages as deleted, messages marked as 
deleted in SeaMonkey (shown strike-through in the thread pane) will 
remain in Gmail's until the folder is compacted (expunged) in SeaMonkey, 
at which point messages marked as deleted are also deleted from Gmail.
--- If SeaMonkey is set to move deleted messages to the bin, deleted 
messages appear in the bin folder in both SeaMonkey and Gmail (Gmail 
doesn't immediately delete it at this point, as SeaMonkey has moved the 
message, not deleted it). Strangely, deleting the message from 
SeaMonkey's bin doesn't seem to delete it from Gmail's bin, but that 
seems to be the case regardless of the setting in Gmail and probably 
isn't too bad since Gmail automatically deletes messages from the bin 
after 30 days.


The SeaMonkey setting to mark messages as deleted or move them to the 
bin is at Edit > Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings > (select your 
account) > Server Settings > "When I delete a message".



Oh well, just have to go hit the delete button once a month I guess...


I find the above seems to work quite sensibly in Gmail. There are still 
a few quirks though. e.g. moving a message from a Gmail IMAP folder to a 
local folder in SeaMonkey leaves the message on Gmail's server (visible 
if you log in to webmail) but it doesn't show up in the IMAP folder on 
SeaMonkey (only in the local folder to which it was moved). If, in 
SeaMonkey, 

Re: my wonderful Seamonkey... an imap question

[sean nathan]

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

sean nathan wrote:
Welcome to February fellow Seamonkey devotees! I have performed a 
fresh install of SM 2.49.1 today after a distro upgrade to 
PeppermintOS linux 8 respin 2.


All of my imap accounts worked flawlessly as I created each account. I 
have generally stuck to pop3 access in the past, but I am finding out 
via imap that e'mail that I thought I had deleted long ago, by 
downloading to my machines, still resides on the e'mail servers.


Wondering if I am missing some checkbox which deletes the email from 
the servers? I have always assumed the act of downloading my e'mail 
removes the copy from cox.net, gmail & outlook... all of my yahoo 
accounts work that way.


IMAP synchronises emails on the PC with the server. Downloaded emails 
stay on the server. If you delete an email from the PC, it also gets 
deleted from the server. If you delete on the server, it will be deleted 
from the PC next time it syncs.


POP3 downloads email from the server to the PC. Whether it is left on 
the server having done so is optional. See the settings at Edit > Mail & 
Newsgroups Account Settings > (select your account) > Server Settings, 
in particular "Leave messages on server", "For at most...days" and 
"Until I delete them".


GMail is different (as always...) When using POP3, the server ignores 
the client's instructions as to whether to delete the email. Instead you 
have to log in to  and go to GMail's settings. 
On the "Forwarding and POP/IMAP" tab is a setting "When messages are 
accessed with POP" with options "keep Gmail's copy in the Inbox", "mark 
Gmail's copy as read", "archive Gmail's copy" or "delete Gmail's copy".





Therein lies my dilemma, I never delete non-spam e'mail, but I do move 
it from the inbox to my decades of archived mail in the local folders. 
It resides on my machine permanently as an interactive diary of sorts...


Only Yahoo seems to be properly configured to allow mail removed from 
"Inbox" to be deleted.


Gmail moves copies into three separate imap folders... and I have to go 
to Cox cable & Outlook webmail to delete previously moved e'mail 
manually...


Oh well, just have to go hit the delete button once a month I guess...

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Re: my wonderful Seamonkey... an imap question

[mozilla-lists . mbourne]

sean nathan wrote:
Welcome to February fellow Seamonkey devotees! I have performed a fresh 
install of SM 2.49.1 today after a distro upgrade to PeppermintOS linux 
8 respin 2.


All of my imap accounts worked flawlessly as I created each account. I 
have generally stuck to pop3 access in the past, but I am finding out 
via imap that e'mail that I thought I had deleted long ago, by 
downloading to my machines, still resides on the e'mail servers.


Wondering if I am missing some checkbox which deletes the email from the 
servers? I have always assumed the act of downloading my e'mail removes 
the copy from cox.net, gmail & outlook... all of my yahoo accounts work 
that way.


IMAP synchronises emails on the PC with the server. Downloaded emails 
stay on the server. If you delete an email from the PC, it also gets 
deleted from the server. If you delete on the server, it will be deleted 
from the PC next time it syncs.


POP3 downloads email from the server to the PC. Whether it is left on 
the server having done so is optional. See the settings at Edit > Mail & 
Newsgroups Account Settings > (select your account) > Server Settings, 
in particular "Leave messages on server", "For at most...days" and 
"Until I delete them".


GMail is different (as always...) When using POP3, the server ignores 
the client's instructions as to whether to delete the email. Instead you 
have to log in to  and go to GMail's settings. 
On the "Forwarding and POP/IMAP" tab is a setting "When messages are 
accessed with POP" with options "keep Gmail's copy in the Inbox", "mark 
Gmail's copy as read", "archive Gmail's copy" or "delete Gmail's copy".


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my wonderful Seamonkey... an imap question

[sean nathan]

Welcome to February fellow Seamonkey devotees! I have performed a fresh 
install of SM 2.49.1 today after a distro upgrade to PeppermintOS linux 
8 respin 2.


All of my imap accounts worked flawlessly as I created each account. I 
have generally stuck to pop3 access in the past, but I am finding out 
via imap that e'mail that I thought I had deleted long ago, by 
downloading to my machines, still resides on the e'mail servers.


Wondering if I am missing some checkbox which deletes the email from the 
servers? I have always assumed the act of downloading my e'mail removes 
the copy from cox.net, gmail & outlook... all of my yahoo accounts work 
that way.



So elated that all seems well in Seamonkey development land, I see SM 
2.49.2 is on the horizon, just will be waiting for it to hit the 
ubuntuzilla ppa servers.


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Re: A question regarding junk mail

[Danny Kile]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

EE wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


Buttons? I didn't even realize they had buttons. I just use "J"...

And of course if I open a junk message, there's a little message at 
the top saying that SM considers it junk, with a button to mark as 
not junk. But I can't remember the last time I opened a junk message. 
Why would I?


Who says you have to open the message?  Just select it in the message 
list and click the button.


If I select a message, it's displayed in the preview pane and marked as 
read. To avoid that, I have to first toggle the preview pane off by 
clicking the grippy on the boundary. Fortunately, I have the good sense 
to block the display of remote images, so if I open a junk message by 
mistake, it can't "phone home" using a web beacon.


My display hides the mail toolbar to save space, since I normally use 
keyboard shortcuts such as "N" (next unread message), "M" (mark as 
read), etc. If I show the mail toolbar, I see the "Junk" and "Mark" 
buttons, but I was unaware of their existence since I don't normally 
show the toolbar. Hence my joking query.




To keep a message from opening in the preview pane when you select it 
just right-click the message and then in the drop down box select Junk 
or Not Junk. The selected message will not display in the preview pane 
during this operation.


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Re: A question regarding junk mail

[Paul B. Gallagher]

EE wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

EE wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


Buttons? I didn't even realize they had buttons. I just use "J"...

And of course if I open a junk message, there's a little message at 
the top saying that SM considers it junk, with a button to mark as 
not junk. But I can't remember the last time I opened a junk 
message. Why would I?


Who says you have to open the message?  Just select it in the message 
list and click the button.


If I select a message, it's displayed in the preview pane and marked 
as read. To avoid that, I have to first toggle the preview pane off by 
clicking the grippy on the boundary. Fortunately, I have the good 
sense to block the display of remote images, so if I open a junk 
message by mistake, it can't "phone home" using a web beacon.


My display hides the mail toolbar to save space, since I normally use 
keyboard shortcuts such as "N" (next unread message), "M" (mark as 
read), etc. If I show the mail toolbar, I see the "Junk" and "Mark" 
buttons, but I was unaware of their existence since I don't normally 
show the toolbar. Hence my joking query.


To prevent opening the message when you select it, pull down the View 
menu, choose Layout, and uncheck Message Pane.  You can use a separate 
window to display messages.


I'm well aware of how to disable the preview pane.

Most of the time, I prefer to have the three-pane layout (folder list, 
message list, preview pane). It's only very rarely that I need to select 
a junk message without opening it, and I usually remember to disable the 
preview pane for that moment.


All of which I already said.

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Re: A question regarding junk mail

[EE]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

EE wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


Buttons? I didn't even realize they had buttons. I just use "J"...

And of course if I open a junk message, there's a little message at 
the top saying that SM considers it junk, with a button to mark as 
not junk. But I can't remember the last time I opened a junk message. 
Why would I?


Who says you have to open the message?  Just select it in the message 
list and click the button.


If I select a message, it's displayed in the preview pane and marked as 
read. To avoid that, I have to first toggle the preview pane off by 
clicking the grippy on the boundary. Fortunately, I have the good sense 
to block the display of remote images, so if I open a junk message by 
mistake, it can't "phone home" using a web beacon.


My display hides the mail toolbar to save space, since I normally use 
keyboard shortcuts such as "N" (next unread message), "M" (mark as 
read), etc. If I show the mail toolbar, I see the "Junk" and "Mark" 
buttons, but I was unaware of their existence since I don't normally 
show the toolbar. Hence my joking query.


To prevent opening the message when you select it, pull down the View 
menu, choose Layout, and uncheck Message Pane.  You can use a separate 
window to display messages.


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Re: A question regarding junk mail

[Paul B. Gallagher]

EE wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


Buttons? I didn't even realize they had buttons. I just use "J"...

And of course if I open a junk message, there's a little message at 
the top saying that SM considers it junk, with a button to mark as not 
junk. But I can't remember the last time I opened a junk message. Why 
would I?


Who says you have to open the message?  Just select it in the message 
list and click the button.


If I select a message, it's displayed in the preview pane and marked as 
read. To avoid that, I have to first toggle the preview pane off by 
clicking the grippy on the boundary. Fortunately, I have the good sense 
to block the display of remote images, so if I open a junk message by 
mistake, it can't "phone home" using a web beacon.


My display hides the mail toolbar to save space, since I normally use 
keyboard shortcuts such as "N" (next unread message), "M" (mark as 
read), etc. If I show the mail toolbar, I see the "Junk" and "Mark" 
buttons, but I was unaware of their existence since I don't normally 
show the toolbar. Hence my joking query.


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Re: A question regarding junk mail

[EE]

Steve Dunn wrote:

On 2017-12-13 18:48, Zeb Carter wrote:
I receive email from pensacon.com (sci fi convention is Pensacola, 
FL). Seamonkey thinks it's a scam or junk mail even though I do have 
the address in my addressbook (newslet...@pensacon.com). How do I get 
SM to stop flagging it? I hit the ignore warning button each time but 
I can get another one the next day and it gets flagged.


Two thoughts:

Do you have the setting turned on to trust messages from senders in your 
address book?  (Edit -> Mail and Newsgroup Account Settings -> {the 
account) -> Junk Settings)?


Seamonkey's junk controls are inadequate - the Junk and Not Junk buttons 
don't appear everywhere they're needed.  I use an add-on called 
JunQuilla to allow better management of the junk mail filters.


-Steve


What do you mean those buttons are not appearing everywhere?  Is one or 
the other not in the main toolbar?  If not, put it there.


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Re: A question regarding junk mail

[EE]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Steve Dunn wrote:

On 2017-12-13 18:48, Zeb Carter wrote:
I receive email from pensacon.com (sci fi convention is Pensacola, 
FL). Seamonkey thinks it's a scam or junk mail even though I do have 
the address in my addressbook (newslet...@pensacon.com). How do I get 
SM to stop flagging it? I hit the ignore warning button each time but 
I can get another one the next day and it gets flagged.


Two thoughts:

Do you have the setting turned on to trust messages from senders in 
your address book?  (Edit -> Mail and Newsgroup Account Settings -> 
{the account) -> Junk Settings)?


Seamonkey's junk controls are inadequate - the Junk and Not Junk 
buttons don't appear everywhere they're needed.  I use an add-on 
called JunQuilla to allow better management of the junk mail filters.


Buttons? I didn't even realize they had buttons. I just use "J"...

And of course if I open a junk message, there's a little message at the 
top saying that SM considers it junk, with a button to mark as not junk. 
But I can't remember the last time I opened a junk message. Why would I?


Who says you have to open the message?  Just select it in the message 
list and click the button.


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Re: A question regarding junk mail

[EE]

Zeb Carter wrote:
I receive email from pensacon.com (sci fi convention is Pensacola, FL). 
Seamonkey thinks it's a scam or junk mail even though I do have the 
address in my addressbook (newslet...@pensacon.com). How do I get SM to 
stop flagging it? I hit the ignore warning button each time but I can 
get another one the next day and it gets flagged.



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Train it that that is not junk.  The Junk button turns into a Not Junk 
button if the message is marked as junk.  Click that to train the 
application.


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Re: A question regarding junk mail

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Steve Dunn wrote:

On 2017-12-13 18:48, Zeb Carter wrote:
I receive email from pensacon.com (sci fi convention is Pensacola, 
FL). Seamonkey thinks it's a scam or junk mail even though I do have 
the address in my addressbook (newslet...@pensacon.com). How do I get 
SM to stop flagging it? I hit the ignore warning button each time but 
I can get another one the next day and it gets flagged.


Two thoughts:

Do you have the setting turned on to trust messages from senders in your 
address book?  (Edit -> Mail and Newsgroup Account Settings -> {the 
account) -> Junk Settings)?


Seamonkey's junk controls are inadequate - the Junk and Not Junk buttons 
don't appear everywhere they're needed.  I use an add-on called 
JunQuilla to allow better management of the junk mail filters.


Buttons? I didn't even realize they had buttons. I just use "J"...

And of course if I open a junk message, there's a little message at the 
top saying that SM considers it junk, with a button to mark as not junk. 
But I can't remember the last time I opened a junk message. Why would I?


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Re: A question regarding junk mail

[Steve Dunn]

On 2017-12-13 18:48, Zeb Carter wrote:
I receive email from pensacon.com (sci fi convention is Pensacola, FL). 
Seamonkey thinks it's a scam or junk mail even though I do have the 
address in my addressbook (newslet...@pensacon.com). How do I get SM to 
stop flagging it? I hit the ignore warning button each time but I can 
get another one the next day and it gets flagged.


Two thoughts:

Do you have the setting turned on to trust messages from senders in your 
address book?  (Edit -> Mail and Newsgroup Account Settings -> {the 
account) -> Junk Settings)?


Seamonkey's junk controls are inadequate - the Junk and Not Junk buttons 
don't appear everywhere they're needed.  I use an add-on called 
JunQuilla to allow better management of the junk mail filters.


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Re: A question regarding junk mail

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Zeb Carter wrote:

I receive email from pensacon.com (sci fi convention is Pensacola, FL). 
Seamonkey thinks it's a scam or junk mail even though I do have the 
address in my addressbook (newslet...@pensacon.com). How do I get SM to 
stop flagging it? I hit the ignore warning button each time but I can 
get another one the next day and it gets flagged.


"Ignore warning" doesn't train the Junk Mail Control feature. It 
basically says, "I know it's junk, but quit nagging me."


In order to train the JMC feature, you have to mark the message as "not 
junk."


Message | Mark | As not Junk or SHIFT-J will do it.

After a few of those, SM should take the hint.

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A question regarding junk mail

[Zeb Carter via support-seamonkey]

I receive email from pensacon.com (sci fi convention is Pensacola, FL). 
Seamonkey thinks it's a scam or junk mail even though I do have the 
address in my addressbook (newslet...@pensacon.com). How do I get SM to 
stop flagging it? I hit the ignore warning button each time but I can 
get another one the next day and it gets flagged.



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Re: Password Manager Quick Question - SM 2.49.1 W10 Pro

[WaltS48]

On 11/14/17 1:05 PM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 11/13/17 4:31 PM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

Ray Davison wrote:

bo1953 wrote:

Hello all, I have the above on my desktop and lt, the embedded password manager 
loses PW's at most
upgrades of SM.

I wish to find out what others use for PWM's that are compatible with SM or is 
it I need to look
for one which will work with W10 Pro instead?


I have what is included with SM, but I mostly use Saved Password Editor.

I never loose passwords, or anything else, during an upgrade.  But then I never 
do an upgrade.  I
copy the new version to a new tree, have it share all the previous data, and if 
at some point I
decide I like the new better, I delete the older.

Ray


I use Quick Passwords but it may not work anymore after the major changes that 
are coming to SM.
Does anyone know if Quick Passwords will continue to work in SM in the future.



What major changes?


I don't know. I thought SM was switching over to a new release and some add-ons 
would no longer work
or is that just for Firefox?



Just Firefox for now.

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Re: Password Manager Quick Question - SM 2.49.1 W10 Pro

[Arnie Goetchius]

WaltS48 wrote:
> On 11/13/17 4:31 PM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:
>> Ray Davison wrote:
>>> bo1953 wrote:
 Hello all, I have the above on my desktop and lt, the embedded password 
 manager loses PW's at most
 upgrades of SM.

 I wish to find out what others use for PWM's that are compatible with SM 
 or is it I need to look
 for one which will work with W10 Pro instead?
>>>
>>> I have what is included with SM, but I mostly use Saved Password Editor.
>>>
>>> I never loose passwords, or anything else, during an upgrade.  But then I 
>>> never do an upgrade.  I
>>> copy the new version to a new tree, have it share all the previous data, 
>>> and if at some point I
>>> decide I like the new better, I delete the older.
>>>
>>> Ray
>>>
>> I use Quick Passwords but it may not work anymore after the major changes 
>> that are coming to SM.
>> Does anyone know if Quick Passwords will continue to work in SM in the 
>> future.
>>
> 
> What major changes?
> 
I don't know. I thought SM was switching over to a new release and some add-ons 
would no longer work
or is that just for Firefox?
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Re: Password Manager Quick Question - SM 2.49.1 W10 Pro

[Hawker]

David - are others having this issue as well?
Sounds like for the OP and myself (I am on Win7 not Win10) The built in 
password manager broke on the 2.49 update.
I can go to the password manager and they are all still there, but the 
auto complete is broken.


Does the OP also find the passwords are still in the manage stored 
passwords interface just not auto completing?


On 11/11/2017 12:38 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:


I use the Password Manager that is inherent in SeaMonkey. Some of
the third-party applications store the user's passwords in the cloud,
which I feel is quite risky. Others, I am just not sure of their
integrity and security. Since I have to trust SeaMonkey to handle
logins with both security and integrity, I must then trust SeaMonkey
to store my passwords.


Doesn't really address the OP's question. He's concerned by several 
posts we've seen here about SM forgetting passwords after recent 
upgrades. I, too, would be greatly inconvenienced if SM forgot all those 
nuisance logins that I entrust to it.



As much as I trust SeaMonkey, I still use a lengthy pass-phrase (not
merely a password) as my master password. I also periodically
change the individual passwords for the Web sites of my financial
accounts and certain other critical Web sites.


As a policy, I don't save logins and passwords for financial 
institutions in SM or anywhere else my computer. However, in a separate 
file with a nonobvious name and location, I do save fragments or clues 
to those logins and passwords along with a slew of other unrelated data.


So for a simple example (this isn't a real case), for one of my banks I 
may save the fragment "Yankees," which reminds me to add the fragment 
"rule!!" when I enter it in the website. For another example (again, not 
a real case), I may save "hIOdnV7QT9A_aJvHnZ2dnUU7" (I grabbed this just 
now from your message id) and remember that the login is "hIOdnV7QT9A" 
(the first part) and the password is "_aJvHnZ2dnUU7" (the second part). 
Nothing in the file mentions the institutions or their websites, so it's 
not obvious to anyone else which parts of the mass of data go with what. 
And since what is there is incomplete (the rest being saved in wetware), 
cracking it won't help without the other part.


There are many ways of saving useful reminders (not complete logins or 
passwords) without assuming unreasonable risks.






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Re: Password Manager Quick Question - SM 2.49.1 W10 Pro

[WaltS48]

On 11/13/17 4:31 PM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

Ray Davison wrote:

bo1953 wrote:

Hello all, I have the above on my desktop and lt, the embedded password manager 
loses PW's at most
upgrades of SM.

I wish to find out what others use for PWM's that are compatible with SM or is 
it I need to look
for one which will work with W10 Pro instead?


I have what is included with SM, but I mostly use Saved Password Editor.

I never loose passwords, or anything else, during an upgrade.  But then I never 
do an upgrade.  I
copy the new version to a new tree, have it share all the previous data, and if 
at some point I
decide I like the new better, I delete the older.

Ray


I use Quick Passwords but it may not work anymore after the major changes that 
are coming to SM.
Does anyone know if Quick Passwords will continue to work in SM in the future.



What major changes?

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Re: Password Manager Quick Question - SM 2.49.1 W10 Pro

[Arnie Goetchius]

Ray Davison wrote:
> bo1953 wrote:
>> Hello all, I have the above on my desktop and lt, the embedded password 
>> manager loses PW's at most
>> upgrades of SM.
>>
>> I wish to find out what others use for PWM's that are compatible with SM or 
>> is it I need to look
>> for one which will work with W10 Pro instead?
> 
> I have what is included with SM, but I mostly use Saved Password Editor.
> 
> I never loose passwords, or anything else, during an upgrade.  But then I 
> never do an upgrade.  I
> copy the new version to a new tree, have it share all the previous data, and 
> if at some point I
> decide I like the new better, I delete the older.
> 
> Ray
> 
I use Quick Passwords but it may not work anymore after the major changes that 
are coming to SM.
Does anyone know if Quick Passwords will continue to work in SM in the future.
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Re: Password Manager Quick Question - SM 2.49.1 W10 Pro

[Ray Davison]

bo1953 wrote:
Hello all, I have the above on my desktop and lt, the embedded password 
manager loses PW's at most upgrades of SM.


I wish to find out what others use for PWM's that are compatible with SM 
or is it I need to look for one which will work with W10 Pro instead?


I have what is included with SM, but I mostly use Saved Password Editor.

I never loose passwords, or anything else, during an upgrade.  But then 
I never do an upgrade.  I copy the new version to a new tree, have it 
share all the previous data, and if at some point I decide I like the 
new better, I delete the older.


Ray

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Re: Password Manager Quick Question - SM 2.49.1 W10 Pro

[David E. Ross]

On 11/11/2017 9:38 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
> 
>> I use the Password Manager that is inherent in SeaMonkey. Some of
>> the third-party applications store the user's passwords in the cloud,
>> which I feel is quite risky. Others, I am just not sure of their
>> integrity and security. Since I have to trust SeaMonkey to handle
>> logins with both security and integrity, I must then trust SeaMonkey
>> to store my passwords.
> 
> Doesn't really address the OP's question. He's concerned by several 
> posts we've seen here about SM forgetting passwords after recent 
> upgrades. I, too, would be greatly inconvenienced if SM forgot all those 
> nuisance logins that I entrust to it.
> 
>> As much as I trust SeaMonkey, I still use a lengthy pass-phrase (not
>> merely a password) as my master password. I also periodically
>> change the individual passwords for the Web sites of my financial
>> accounts and certain other critical Web sites.
> 
> As a policy, I don't save logins and passwords for financial 
> institutions in SM or anywhere else my computer. However, in a separate 
> file with a nonobvious name and location, I do save fragments or clues 
> to those logins and passwords along with a slew of other unrelated data.
> 
> So for a simple example (this isn't a real case), for one of my banks I 
> may save the fragment "Yankees," which reminds me to add the fragment 
> "rule!!" when I enter it in the website. For another example (again, not 
> a real case), I may save "hIOdnV7QT9A_aJvHnZ2dnUU7" (I grabbed this just 
> now from your message id) and remember that the login is "hIOdnV7QT9A" 
> (the first part) and the password is "_aJvHnZ2dnUU7" (the second part). 
> Nothing in the file mentions the institutions or their websites, so it's 
> not obvious to anyone else which parts of the mass of data go with what. 
> And since what is there is incomplete (the rest being saved in wetware), 
> cracking it won't help without the other part.
> 
> There are many ways of saving useful reminders (not complete logins or 
> passwords) without assuming unreasonable risks.
> 

I have never seen SeaMonkey forget a saved password.  I have indeed seen
this problem with Thunderbird.  (I do not use SeaMonkey's mail-news
capability.)  However, I think the problem in Thunderbird was fixed
several versions ago.

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Re: Password Manager Quick Question - SM 2.49.1 W10 Pro

[Paul B. Gallagher]

David E. Ross wrote:


I use the Password Manager that is inherent in SeaMonkey. Some of
the third-party applications store the user's passwords in the cloud,
which I feel is quite risky. Others, I am just not sure of their
integrity and security. Since I have to trust SeaMonkey to handle
logins with both security and integrity, I must then trust SeaMonkey
to store my passwords.


Doesn't really address the OP's question. He's concerned by several 
posts we've seen here about SM forgetting passwords after recent 
upgrades. I, too, would be greatly inconvenienced if SM forgot all those 
nuisance logins that I entrust to it.



As much as I trust SeaMonkey, I still use a lengthy pass-phrase (not
merely a password) as my master password. I also periodically
change the individual passwords for the Web sites of my financial
accounts and certain other critical Web sites.


As a policy, I don't save logins and passwords for financial 
institutions in SM or anywhere else my computer. However, in a separate 
file with a nonobvious name and location, I do save fragments or clues 
to those logins and passwords along with a slew of other unrelated data.


So for a simple example (this isn't a real case), for one of my banks I 
may save the fragment "Yankees," which reminds me to add the fragment 
"rule!!" when I enter it in the website. For another example (again, not 
a real case), I may save "hIOdnV7QT9A_aJvHnZ2dnUU7" (I grabbed this just 
now from your message id) and remember that the login is "hIOdnV7QT9A" 
(the first part) and the password is "_aJvHnZ2dnUU7" (the second part). 
Nothing in the file mentions the institutions or their websites, so it's 
not obvious to anyone else which parts of the mass of data go with what. 
And since what is there is incomplete (the rest being saved in wetware), 
cracking it won't help without the other part.


There are many ways of saving useful reminders (not complete logins or 
passwords) without assuming unreasonable risks.


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Re: Password Manager Quick Question - SM 2.49.1 W10 Pro

[David E. Ross]

On 11/11/2017 5:05 AM, bo1953 wrote:
> Hello all, I have the above on my desktop and lt, the embedded password 
> manager loses PW's at most upgrades of SM.
> 
> I wish to find out what others use for PWM's that are compatible with SM 
> or is it I need to look for one which will work with W10 Pro instead?
> 
> TIA - bo1953
> 
> 

I use the Password Manager that is inherent in SeaMonkey.  Some of the
third-party applications store the user's passwords in the cloud, which
I feel is quite risky.  Others, I am just not sure of their integrity
and security.  Since I have to trust SeaMonkey to handle logins with
both security and integrity, I must then trust SeaMonkey to store my
passwords.

As much as I trust SeaMonkey, I still use a lengthy pass-phrase (not
merely a password) as my master password.  I also periodically change
the individual passwords for the Web sites of my financial accounts and
certain other critical Web sites.

-- 
David E. Ross


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*  President Trump issued executive orders
   that increase health-care costs.
*  The Republicans in Congress propose to
   eliminate itemized deductions for
   health-care costs.
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Password Manager Quick Question - SM 2.49.1 W10 Pro

[bo1953]

Hello all, I have the above on my desktop and lt, the embedded password 
manager loses PW's at most upgrades of SM.


I wish to find out what others use for PWM's that are compatible with SM 
or is it I need to look for one which will work with W10 Pro instead?


TIA - bo1953


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Re: Question about Active versus non-active Tabs

[David E. Ross]

On 7/10/2017 2:45 PM, Lee wrote:
> On 7/8/17, Ed Mullen  wrote:
>> On 7/8/17 at 10:08 AM, DoctorBill's prodigious digits fired off with
>> great aplomb:
>>> I am using SM 2.46 right now.  I just lately installed it on my wife's
>>> desktop.
>>> We both are using Windows 7 Pro.
>>> I do not know why, but on my computer, when there are multiple Tabs, the
>>> Tab in use at the moment is light colored.  In Pref's, appearance,
>>> colors, active is set to Red.
>>>
>>> On my wife's computer, all the (Multiple) tabs in use are ALL the same
>>> color, which makes it difficult to tell which tab you are in at any
>>> moment.  Underline links is checked.
>>>
>>> I have looked in preferences to see why my Tabs act that way in order to
>>> fix my wife's system.
>>>
>>> Is this current tab thing a SM thing or a Windows 7 thing ?
>>>
>>> Can someone tell me what to toggle in SM (or Windows 7) to make the
>>> current Tab (when there are multiple tabs) different (light, colored,
>>> something to identify it) ?
>>>
>>> DoctorBill
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Jonathan's reply is good.  You can also go further.
>>
>> 
>>
>> What you see there is done by this code in userChrome.css:
>>
>> /* Change color of active tab */
>> tab[selected="true"] {
>> background: #383 url(tab05.jpg);
>> color: white !important;
>> }
>>
>> /* Make the active tab bold */
>> tab[selected="true"] {
>> font-weight: bold !important;
>> }
>>
>> /* Change color of normal/unselected tabs */
>> tab:not([selected="true"]) {
>> background: #383 url(tab03.jpg);
>> color: blue !important;
>> }
> 
> Anybody else made changes in userchrome.css ?
> 
> /*
>  * Change color of selected tab
>  */
> .tabbrowser-tab[selected="true"],
> .tabbrowser-tab[selected="true"] > hbox {
>margin-left:  0px;
>margin-right: 0px;
>background-color: white !important;
>color: black !important;
>border-bottom: 2px solid #cc6600 !important;
>border-top-left-radius:  12px !important;
>border-top-right-radius: 12px !important;
>}
> 
> Lee
> 

Yes.  My active tab is dark blue with white text.  If I hover my cursor
over my active tab, however, the tab turns pale blue with black text.
The text is slightly larger than the rest of my user interface text.
Here is my CSS:

/* Font size on tabs */
.tabbrowser-tab
{ font-size: 105% !important }

/* Highlight active tab */
.tabbrowser-tab[selected="true"] > hbox,
.tabbrowser-tab[selected="true"] > .tab-close-button
{   background-color: #7799FF !important;
color: #ff !important }

.tabbrowser-tab[selected="true"]:hover > hbox,
.tabbrowser-tab[selected="true"]:hover > .tab-close-button
{   background-color: #CCDDFF !important;
color: #00 !important }

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Re: Question about Active versus non-active Tabs

[Lee]

On 7/8/17, Ed Mullen  wrote:
> On 7/8/17 at 10:08 AM, DoctorBill's prodigious digits fired off with
> great aplomb:
>> I am using SM 2.46 right now.  I just lately installed it on my wife's
>> desktop.
>> We both are using Windows 7 Pro.
>> I do not know why, but on my computer, when there are multiple Tabs, the
>> Tab in use at the moment is light colored.  In Pref's, appearance,
>> colors, active is set to Red.
>>
>> On my wife's computer, all the (Multiple) tabs in use are ALL the same
>> color, which makes it difficult to tell which tab you are in at any
>> moment.  Underline links is checked.
>>
>> I have looked in preferences to see why my Tabs act that way in order to
>> fix my wife's system.
>>
>> Is this current tab thing a SM thing or a Windows 7 thing ?
>>
>> Can someone tell me what to toggle in SM (or Windows 7) to make the
>> current Tab (when there are multiple tabs) different (light, colored,
>> something to identify it) ?
>>
>> DoctorBill
>>
>>
>
> Jonathan's reply is good.  You can also go further.
>
> 
>
> What you see there is done by this code in userChrome.css:
>
> /* Change color of active tab */
> tab[selected="true"] {
> background: #383 url(tab05.jpg);
> color: white !important;
> }
>
> /* Make the active tab bold */
> tab[selected="true"] {
> font-weight: bold !important;
> }
>
> /* Change color of normal/unselected tabs */
> tab:not([selected="true"]) {
> background: #383 url(tab03.jpg);
> color: blue !important;
> }

Anybody else made changes in userchrome.css ?

/*
 * Change color of selected tab
 */
.tabbrowser-tab[selected="true"],
.tabbrowser-tab[selected="true"] > hbox {
   margin-left:  0px;
   margin-right: 0px;
   background-color: white !important;
   color: black !important;
   border-bottom: 2px solid #cc6600 !important;
   border-top-left-radius:  12px !important;
   border-top-right-radius: 12px !important;
   }

Lee
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Re: Question about Active versus non-active Tabs

[mozilla-lists . mbourne]

Daniel wrote:

On 9/07/2017 3:50 AM, mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

Can someone tell me what to toggle in SM (or Windows 7) to make
the current Tab (when there are multiple tabs) different (light,
colored, something to identify it) ?


This is what I am talking about - if I can show images herethat
is.
[img]https://s19.postimg.org/v5v708f6r/Sea_Monkey_with_Tabs.jpg[/img]


It looks like you're using a theme other than the default, and the
highlighting might be part of that theme. Make sure your wife's
profile is using the same theme, selected at Tools > Add-ons
Manager > Appearance.

Otherwise, as others have mentioned, it may be that you've customised
the userChrome.css file in your profile to get this effect.


Mark, did you mean that DB should compare Theme settings at
View->Apply Theme??


No, but that does look like another way of doing it.

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