exactly which sections are motorway. This
might be a DOT requirement.
SR-1 south of Oxnard is similar. Here's the location of such a sign going
northbound: 34.112471°, -119.081681°
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(http://www.opentopography.org) appears on at least 4000 objects instead
of something more reasonable like EarthScope;ISIS;OpenTopo. Defining
source values in the wiki would also give one a chance to document details,
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suggest the
imagery is accurate.
So, it's not clear why some of the landuses are shifted by so much, while
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combined with : (colon) as a delimiter, instead of ; (semi-colon). Why,
and should this be changed?
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is that these sawtooth ways tend to cross other ways without
intersection, so this is a good indicator, too.
Lastly, I'm noticing orphan nodes in areas that need work.
These would make good layer(s) in the Geofabrik OSM Inspector.
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At 2012-07-27 06:08, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Jul 26, 2012 11:30 PM,
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ref=FH nn - USFS Forest Highway
ref=FR nXn[n][.n] - USFS Forest Route/Road
ref=FT nXn[n][.n] - USFS Forest Trail
IIRC, all three of these are a single NFD network, for National
At 2012-07-27 08:22, Paul Johnson wrote:
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At least in Region 5 (CA), the roads have N or S in the X position,
while trails have E or W. However, I wasn't sure that everyone would
necessarily know that, so I went with a more
Smalley wrote:
What if they're equally important and recognized (like Interstate
80/90 through Ohio and Indiana, or US 1/9 in New Jersey)?
The consumers should not assume anything from the order. Personally, I
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that if it's data created by a US Federal
agency, it's public domain, but what about US state and local governments
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for the issue globally. Also, there are probably other tags
that legitimately and non-controversially may contain multiple values. I
was trying to work out a process, which turns out to be somewhat manual,
even with the help of a couple scripts.
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orphan turning-circles, which I deleted.
It's a good idea to turn off background imagery for a moment after wiping
an area to catch these leftovers that might otherwise be hard to see. Maybe
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that put in literally blood, sweat, tears, and hard cold cash,
who are not happy with the actions of those whose job it was to safeguard
our work. That is all I will say.
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ultimately, it failed.
Even if he accepted now (which is extremely unlikely), it's too late once
the redaction happens, right?
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Uh, ignore this. I didn't mean it to go to the list, and, of course, didn't
realize it was 5 months old.
At 2012-07-19 12:58, Alan Mintz wrote:
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At 2012-01-30 08:48, Martijn van Exel wrote:
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,
etc.) at many points - enough to satisfy me that the imagery can be used.
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going to happen to their data and hope they'll speak up about it.)
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I'm looking for examples of governments using OSM data
Not huge, but nice: http://www.whitehouse.gov/change/
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samples of the next
two, it seems they are all in Europe. Is that correct?
The last three are not linked. Is there a reason for that, or should I fix
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the responses so far haven't mentioned the most
glaring reason for this. The license-compliance redaction has not yet
begun! Even your data that haven't been touched still remain because they
have not yet begun the process of removing the non-compliant data (thankfully).
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The rest are easily done now that I have scripts for it, but I get that the
page might get overwhelmingly large. How about sub-pages for each section
with my tables, and just the plain-text lists, a link to the sub-page, and
the summary line on the main page?
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to be manually merged into OSM.
Except you won't see possible errors introduced after the first import by
OSM editors. I think it's useful to see the diff between the current state
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XML would be 31KB
(1.9% of current).
* 0.5 mi x 0.5 mi (800 m x 800 m) at minlat='35.3979622'
minlon='-119.1277814' maxlat='35.4052032' maxlon='-119.1188657'
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with place=locality which is correct for
unpopulated places (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Locality).
Maybe. Is it possible that those are not real villages, but names of
historical villages or settlements (and shouldn't be tagged as current
placenames)? Can someone in Spain comment?
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and other space junk never seem to hit anything, even if they survive
re-entry :)
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At 2012-05-15 15:21, Toby Murray wrote:
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Alan Mintz
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Yes. Having said all that, OSMTI says there are 23 million nodes (33%
of the
total) with created_by tags! This seemed surprisingly high to me.
Err last time I checked we
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instances?
Unless this quote is out of context, that seems ridiculous (in the US).
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map for the renderer.
Exactly :) Why that is ok, I don't know :(
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Open turns Lane Avenue into Ln Ave, where only the last word
should be abbreviated. To eliminate guesswork, renderers can use the
abbr_name tag, if present.
Wouldn't happen with street:name=Lane, street:type=Ave (since it would not
speak street:name verbatim)
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Is this a good idea? It looks really odd to me:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/9061339
I don't like it. There are some more in that changeset, and another
previous one for that user too.
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There are 52 of these United States Ship ways. OAPI query:
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On 5/11/2012 1:36 PM, Alan Mintz wrote:
Okay, so basically we're ignoring the on-the-ground rule in order to
map for the renderer.
Exactly :) Why that is ok, I don't know :(
Mapping for the renderer has never been wrong or discouraged. Tagging
plugin, as long as someone doesn't start joining those
landuses to other objects (e.g. highways), again.
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the data
- No one has proposed an easier option
? Both SteveA and Nathan Mixter (the original contributor) have responded
in this thread, co-operatively.
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Is someone attending to license cleanup for US freeway relations
nationally, or is it up to mappers in each area to deal with? I'm still
seeing warnings in southern California, but have been ignoring them
thinking someone is already working on them.
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blindly throwing many times the existing data size
at them. In Bakersfield, the building outlines and some landuse and other
objects inflated the data size by ~1000%.
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josm ... It would be nice to be able to hit a key to add a turning circle
to the end of a way.
Indeed. http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/3484
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Alan Mintz wrote:
Another problem appears to be that [key!=value] filters out any way that
does not have a key tag at all, in addition to those that have key=value,
which is not what I need.
Yes, this has been the behaviour expected by design
be to the rest of the
project.
Also, while some originally objected to the huge amount of license-related
discussion going on on the talk list, it seems like important things like
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calls include the
full extent of ways, even outside the bbox, if they have any nodes inside
the bbox, and any relations that refer to anything in the result set.
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At 2012-04-16 20:41, Toby Murray wrote:
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote:
On 4/16/2012 9:18 PM, Alan Mintz wrote:
At 2012-04-16 14:06, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
Or you can simply add odbl=clean if there's nothing ungood about the
object (e.g
efforts.
So, can someone from the redaction squad comment on the logic being used
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help to be able to just add
odbl=clean to such ways that are complained about by the plugin instead of
having to delete and re-add them, fix the intersections, and fix the relations.
I'm also more likely to get it done, since it multiplies my productivity
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that they want to
take.
I don't know about _that_, but I'll agree the Bing imagery _has_ been great
and thank them for it. Nice to have (mostly) high-res, (mostly)
well-aligned, well-served imagery as compared with previous MSRMaps, USGS,
etc. solutions.
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to
incorrectly armchair-edit an object that someone else spent some time
researching. Ways with tiger:reviewed tags (highlighted in various editors)
are a good start, as they have usually not been edited.
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and do various other manual things, but it's better than a visual compare.
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software) to enforce that a way has more than one node, not the database
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and your need to use them as a reference. That's worked for me.
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previous post? I provided a link to the planning data that
describe the official planning categories and how I would map them to OSM.
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At 2012-01-15 09:45, Martijn van Exel wrote:
I only map two separate ways when there's a median you can't cross, so the
two directions are physically separate. By that rationale, it should be
one way feature. I am curious if other mappers use the same convention.
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I've been doing some work here:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=35.7216lon=-117.3273zoom=12layers=M ,
which is being rendered in zooms 13 and higher, but not at 12 or below.
Most of the water feature shown by this link was removed a few days ago.
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On 2/20/2012 4:11 AM, Alan Mintz wrote:
I've been doing some work here:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=35.7216lon=-117.3273zoom=12layers=M
, which is being rendered in zooms 13 and higher, but not at 12 or
below. Most of the water feature shown
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or suffix is not consistent
among them. Some of these were even correct in the original TIGER05 import,
and were corrupted since by a TIGER editor!
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that way, since
we aim to map what we see now, not duplicate a zoning map of what could be.
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, like those available from many counties. Note that the Census's
BAS maps seem to be from the same source database as TIGER, though maybe
extracted at different times.
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On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 7:14 AM, Alan Mintz
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Better quality will result if we verify from additional sources, like those
available from many counties.
The best quality will result if we grab a GPS unit and a camera
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On 2/17/2012 3:02 AM, Alan Mintz wrote:
if the name has been edited by a human, it should not be updated by a
bot, or even another human unless they are willing to prove their edit.
I've edited thousands of names based on photo surveys and official
record
-abbreviating where necessary, but that seems to have
gotten lost in the design of some/most of them.
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801-550-5815
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of annoying when
trying to accurately map bike lanes (because they don't exactly follow the
car lanes physically or schematically).
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. Not sure what to do about that. I don't think it's
rocket science. There are days when I think we should expect more. Then
again, on days when I can't read 3 professional 300-word news stories
without finding 10 mistakes...
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parse out the route
class. Standard abbreviations for the route classes should be listed in the
wiki page for the particular state highway tagging.
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with the second rule above (and the third, but
that's entirely coincidental), but I'm sure I can find counter-examples.
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At 2011-08-21 10:29, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
On 8/21/2011 9:21 AM, Alan Mintz wrote:
My understanding was that there are two options for California SR-60:
1) network=US:CA + ref=60
2) ref=CA 60
SR 60 is a good example, since it overlaps I-215 in Riverside. The network
tag won't work here
out, once you put them in a relation, the tags on the
ways become duplicative. While this is generally bad database design, it's
also true that many consumers don't deal with relations, and so we need the
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how to reconcile.
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of a building inside a large
parcel may well leave a driver lost and quite a distance from where he
needs to be.
On 6/7/2011 3:28 PM, Alan Mintz wrote:
The site allows you to drag a pin from where we think an address
currently is to the front door of the property
Is that really where we want the pin
of address data from a SanGIS import.
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area is wrong:
13095 Jamboree Road,US,CA,Tustin,92782,33747885,-117767370 is actually
about 1.6 *miles* southwest of that point.
Is it possible that there is something wrong with MapQuest's process that
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only note I'd be sending the user is to encourage them to import more of
their bus routes and show others how to do so.
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At 2011-04-10 12:43, Richard Welty wrote:
On 4/10/11 1:39 PM, Alan Mintz wrote:
At 2011-04-10 09:42, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
I came across a relation for a school bus:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/239393
Isn't this a little too much detail for OSM?
A single relation? Really
At 2011-04-10 15:39, Richard Welty wrote:
On 4/10/11 1:50 PM, Alan Mintz wrote:
At 2011-04-10 08:16, Richard Welty wrote:
please don't go overboard mapping areas from imagery where you
can't do ground surveys, particularly where there are clearly local mappers
working.
...and please try
At 2011-04-10 14:00, Kristian M Zoerhoff wrote:
What's the consensus for county roads in the US?
I don't know what the consensus is.
County roads in California are of the form [A-Z][0-9][0-9]. I tag Orange
County route S18 as:
network=US:CA:Orange
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At 2011-04-09 11:02, Paul Johnson wrote:
On 04/08/2011 11:47 AM, Alan Mintz wrote:
I would omit the hyphen as CA 247 for consistency sake.
I'm not sure which post this referred to. My understanding of the
discussion on this subject was that people agree that the hyphen is
necessary to join
At 2011-04-07 13:47, Mike N wrote:
On 4/7/2011 4:09 PM, Alan Mintz wrote:
Case 2. Very occasionally, there will be more than one street name
shown, usually when the ramp ends at or near a point where a street
changes name. Use semicolons to place multiple values in the exit_to and
exit_to_dir
At 2011-04-08 09:55, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
On 4/8/2011 12:47 PM, Alan Mintz wrote:
At 2011-04-07 13:31, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
On 4/7/2011 4:09 PM, Alan Mintz wrote:
Exit 183 / SR-247 South / Barstow Road
is tagged
ref=183 +
exit_to=CA-247;Barstow Road +
exit_dir=South;
Does anyone have
motorway right up to the
motorway_junction.
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and coming up with text on our
own?
Because Likelike Hwy. is the name of HI-63, I would like to
tag:
ref=20A
exit_to_root=Likelike Highway (HI-63)
exit_to_dir=North
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At 2011-04-08 14:06, Mike N wrote:
On 4/8/2011 1:16 PM, Alan Mintz wrote:
I would not be averse to something like:
exit_to=CA-247 South
OR
exit_to_root=CA-247
exit_to_dir=South
Consumers that have evolved can use the second form if it is found,
or the first if it is not. Older consumers
of
abbreviation.
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