Re: [OSM-legal-talk] A case for CT + CC-BY-SA

2011-07-27 Per discussione Tobias Knerr
Richard Fairhurst wrote: Tordanik wrote: I see that the ODbL fits your particular use case nicely. But as you acknowledge, things look different for people with other use cases. I expect that I'm one of those people whose favourite use cases won't benefit from ODbL - quite the opposite, in

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] A case for CT + CC-BY-SA

2011-07-27 Per discussione Rob Myers
On 27/07/11 16:43, Tobias Knerr wrote: And why the hurry? If this is a hurry I'd hate to see stalling. :-) - Rob. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] shortened names

2011-07-27 Per discussione Kev js1982
If we are using pronunciations as a guide shall I go and rename Southwell as Suval and Leicester as Lesta? On Wednesday, 27 July 2011, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 July 2011 04:04, Stephen Hope slh...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 July 2011 10:40, Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk wrote:

[OSM-talk] querying the postgis db

2011-07-27 Per discussione Kenneth Gonsalves
hi, I know that this sounds a bit of a dumb question: I have installed osm data in a postgis db, and would like to get a list of all localities within a particular city - can anyone give a hint on the sql required for this? -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves

[OSM-talk] lat and lon in the db

2011-07-27 Per discussione Kenneth Gonsalves
hi, on querying the db, I get the lat and lon of a particular place as: lat 145921624 lon 864071554 but the map shows the correct figures: lat 12.9954832 lon 77.6208684 can anyone explain this? -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ talk mailing list

[OSM-talk] lat and lon in the db

2011-07-27 Per discussione kenneth gonsalves
hi, on querying the db, I get the lat and lon of a particular place as: lat 145921624 lon 864071554 but the map shows the correct figures: lat 12.9954832 lon 77.6208684 can anyone explain this? -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] lat and lon in the db

2011-07-27 Per discussione Tom Hughes
On 27/07/11 09:08, kenneth gonsalves wrote: on querying the db, I get the lat and lon of a particular place as: The db. Which db would that be exactly? Presumably one you have created somehow from planet, but how exactly did you create it? lat 145921624 lon 864071554 but the map shows

Re: [OSM-talk] shortened names

2011-07-27 Per discussione Steve Doerr
On 27/07/2011 03:04, Stephen Hope wrote: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:name#Notes Um - no. If a place wants to be written St Albans, then that's the name. Just because you pronounce it Saint Albans makes no difference. If they'd just shortened it for some signs to save space (like

Re: [OSM-talk] Detecting deleted data?

2011-07-27 Per discussione Steve Bennett
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 3:28 PM, André Riedel riedel.an...@gmail.com wrote: You can use the OWL-Map (OpenStreetMap Watchlist). It shows all changes in a given area. Thanks both. Looks like the problem is some faulty memory. Steve ___ talk mailing

Re: [OSM-talk] shortened names

2011-07-27 Per discussione Thomas Davie
On 27 Jul 2011, at 10:15, Steve Doerr wrote: On 27/07/2011 03:04, Stephen Hope wrote: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:name#Notes Um - no. If a place wants to be written St Albans, then that's the name. Just because you pronounce it Saint Albans makes no difference. If they'd

Re: [OSM-talk] shortened names

2011-07-27 Per discussione Robin Paulson
On 27 July 2011 12:40, Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk wrote: like S St N on Google where they've abbreviated South Street North, for example, which just looks silly). This seems to agree with http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:name#Notes ha, there's a road near me labelled on sign posts as: Grt

Re: [OSM-talk] shortened names

2011-07-27 Per discussione Richard Fairhurst
andrzej zaborowski wrote: I'd say the opposite is true. If it's pronounced Saint Albans then that is the name. Pronunciation in English only ever serves to mislead. :) Increasingly you can treat St as a valid spelling of the word saint, rather than merely an abbreviation. No (educated)

Re: [OSM-talk] shortened names

2011-07-27 Per discussione John Smith
On 27 July 2011 20:01, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: (I'm only talking about the UK, of course, and in fact this discussion would be better on talk-gb.) The person that started this thread is in New Zealand... ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] lat and lon in the db

2011-07-27 Per discussione Jorge Gustavo
Hi Kenneth, As Tom already said, you probably used osm2pgsql and those coordinates are in the SRID EPSG:900913. You can/should confirm it by quering the geometry_columns table. osm2pgsql fills the table automatically. You should see something like:

Re: [OSM-talk] Pyroute

2011-07-27 Per discussione Luis Quesada
(Sorry! I meant to send this to the list) On Tue, July 26, 2011 5:27 pm, Luis Quesada wrote: On 23/07/11 23:45, Łukasz Stelmach wrote: Luis Quesadal.ques...@4c.ucc.ie writes: I am having the error listed at the end when trying to run python gui.py File /home/lquesada/pyroute/tiles.py,

Re: [OSM-talk] shortened names

2011-07-27 Per discussione David Earl
On 27/07/2011 10:23, Thomas Davie wrote: I don't think how they're sorted has anything to do with it, if every time the place name is written, it's written St Albans, even in official documentation of what the town is called, it's name is St Albans, simple as that. +1. And the same applies to

Re: [OSM-talk] shortened names

2011-07-27 Per discussione Richard Fairhurst
John Smith wrote: The person that started this thread is in New Zealand... ...and started it with the comment does anyone here know what st albans in uk is actually called then?. Robin has also mapped parts of Britain - such as Repton, not far from where I'm sitting now. Richard

Re: [OSM-talk] shortened names

2011-07-27 Per discussione David Earl
In just doing some web searching, I came across this UK Government document... http://www.pcgn.org.uk/UK%20Toponymic%20Guidelines.pdf which has lots of references to OS lists of standards and conventions. While St Albans isn't big enough to feature in the list in this document, it does have

Re: [OSM-talk] shortened names

2011-07-27 Per discussione John Smith
On 27 July 2011 20:50, David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com wrote: While St Albans isn't big enough to feature in the list in this document, it does have St. Helens (sic). Why the period? The district council's website The period after St. is the correct way in English to abbreviate Saint,

Re: [OSM-talk] lat and lon in the db

2011-07-27 Per discussione kenneth gonsalves
On Wed, 2011-07-27 at 11:04 +0100, Jorge Gustavo wrote: As Tom already said, you probably used osm2pgsql and those coordinates are in the SRID EPSG:900913. You can/should confirm it by quering the geometry_columns table. osm2pgsql fills the table automatically. that's right ... In

Re: [OSM-talk] lat and lon in the db

2011-07-27 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 07/27/11 13:04, kenneth gonsalves wrote: I would prefer to reload in ESPG 4326, but on doing: ./osm2pgsql -S ./default.style -E EPSG:4326 ./bang.osm I get this error: Projection code failed to initialise Use -l (ell) instead of -E EPSG:4326. Bye Frederik

Re: [OSM-talk] shortened names

2011-07-27 Per discussione David Earl
On 27/07/2011 11:58, John Smith wrote: On 27 July 2011 20:50, David Earlda...@frankieandshadow.com wrote: While St Albans isn't big enough to feature in the list in this document, it does have St. Helens (sic). Why the period? The district council's website The period after St. is the

Re: [OSM-talk] shortened names

2011-07-27 Per discussione Paul Jaggard
From: John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com The period after St. is the correct way in English to abbreviate Saint, where as the abbreviation of street doesn't have a period. Exactly the opposite according to my (Collins) dictionary: st abbrev. for short ton. St abbrev. for Saint. st. abbrev.

Re: [OSM-talk] lat and lon in the db

2011-07-27 Per discussione kenneth gonsalves
On Wed, 2011-07-27 at 13:11 +0200, Frederik Ramm wrote: On 07/27/11 13:04, kenneth gonsalves wrote: I would prefer to reload in ESPG 4326, but on doing: ./osm2pgsql -S ./default.style -E EPSG:4326 ./bang.osm I get this error: Projection code failed to initialise Use -l (ell) instead

Re: [OSM-talk] shortened names

2011-07-27 Per discussione Kay Drangmeister
Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com wrote: ha, there's a road near me labelled on sign posts as: Grt Sth Rd which must be so easy to interpret for all the none-native english speakers Would Grout Something Rapid count as an educated guess? Let's face it: its the authorities' idea of

Re: [OSM-talk] lat and lon in the db

2011-07-27 Per discussione kenneth gonsalves
On Wed, 2011-07-27 at 16:58 +0530, kenneth gonsalves wrote: Use -l (ell) instead of -E EPSG:4326. same error - maybe I need to install something. done - yum install proj-epsg. Thanks everyone. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] querying the postgis db

2011-07-27 Per discussione Richard Weait
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 2:09 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@gmail.com wrote: hi, I know that this sounds a bit of a dumb question: I have installed osm data in a postgis db, and would like to get a list of all localities within a particular city - can anyone give a hint on the sql required

Re: [OSM-talk] shortened names

2011-07-27 Per discussione David Earl
On 27/07/2011 12:21, Paul Jaggard wrote: From: John Smithdeltafoxtrot...@gmail.com The period after St. is the correct way in English to abbreviate Saint, where as the abbreviation of street doesn't have a period. Exactly the opposite according to my (Collins) dictionary: st abbrev. for short

Re: [OSM-talk] shortened names

2011-07-27 Per discussione John Smith
On 27 July 2011 21:21, Paul Jaggard p...@jaggard.net wrote: From: John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com The period after St. is the correct way in English to abbreviate Saint, where as the abbreviation of street doesn't have a period. Exactly the opposite according to my (Collins) dictionary:

Re: [OSM-talk] shortened names

2011-07-27 Per discussione John Smith
On 27 July 2011 21:48, David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com wrote: Commonly abbreviated S. or St. ... Abbreviations: S. and St., pl. SS. and Sts. Since the 18th c. ‘St.’ is the form usually employed; but since about 1830 ‘S.’ has been favoured by ecclesiologists. In place-names, and in family

Re: [OSM-talk] shortened names

2011-07-27 Per discussione Richard Fairhurst
John Smith wrote: The period after St. is the correct way in English to abbreviate Saint, where as the abbreviation of street doesn't have a period. Not in British English, it isn't. _Saint._ St or S. is better than St. for the abbreviation (see PERIOD IN ABBR.); Pl. Sts or SS. That's from

Re: [OSM-talk] shortened names

2011-07-27 Per discussione John Smith
On 27 July 2011 22:00, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: John Smith wrote: The period after St. is the correct way in English to abbreviate Saint, where as the abbreviation of street doesn't have a period. Not in British English, it isn't. _Saint._ St or S. is better than St.

Re: [OSM-talk] shortened names

2011-07-27 Per discussione andrzej zaborowski
On 27 July 2011 12:01, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Increasingly you can treat St as a valid spelling of the word saint, rather than merely an abbreviation. No (educated) native English speaker would write a placename with 'Saint', and every native English speaker would

Re: [OSM-talk] shortened names

2011-07-27 Per discussione Steve Doerr
It probably doesn't affect the argument, but 'The Place-names of Hertfordshire' (English Place-name Society, 1938) records the following historical forms: (aet) Sancte Albane (957) Sancte Albanes stow (1007) la ville de Seint Alban (Norman-French) villa Sancti Albani (Domesday Book - in Latin)

Re: [OSM-talk] shortened names

2011-07-27 Per discussione Steve Doerr
On 27/07/2011 11:01, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Pronunciation in English only ever serves to mislead. [...] every native English speaker would pronunce St in that context as 'saint'. Actually, /St/ and /saint/ are pronounced rather differently (*sn?t* and *se?nt*, respectively). -- Steve

Re: [OSM-talk] shortened names

2011-07-27 Per discussione kenneth gonsalves
On Wed, 2011-07-27 at 13:51 +0100, Steve Doerr wrote: On 27/07/2011 11:01, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Pronunciation in English only ever serves to mislead. [...] every native English speaker would pronunce St in that context as 'saint'. Actually, St and saint are pronounced rather

Re: [OSM-talk] shortened names

2011-07-27 Per discussione John F. Eldredge
andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 July 2011 12:01, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Increasingly you can treat St as a valid spelling of the word saint, rather than merely an abbreviation. No (educated) native English speaker would write a placename with

Re: [OSM-talk] shortened names

2011-07-27 Per discussione David Earl
On 27/07/2011 14:38, John F. Eldredge wrote: That is the reason I feel that it would be best to store the fully-spelled-out name, and then apply localized rules to look up any abbreviations needed at rendering time. Using the full form to determine the abbreviation is much less ambiguous than

Re: [OSM-talk] lat and lon in the db

2011-07-27 Per discussione Parveen Arora
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@gmail.com wrote: hi, on querying the db, I get the lat and lon of a particular place as: lat 145921624 lon 864071554 I was having the same problem, when I have implemented search in my map tile server. Actually these are not the

Re: [OSM-talk] lat and lon in the db

2011-07-27 Per discussione M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/7/27 Kenneth Gonsalves law...@gmail.com: on querying the db, I get the lat and lon of a particular place as: lat 145921624 lon 864071554 but the map shows the correct figures: lat 12.9954832  lon 77.6208684 I guess these coordinates are the same, the first are the coordinates in your

Re: [OSM-talk] shortened names

2011-07-27 Per discussione M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/7/27 Kay Drangmeister k...@drangmeister.net: Am 27.07.2011, 12:01 Uhr, schrieb Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net: every native English speaker would pronunce St in that context as 'saint'. That, to me, is a pretty conclusive argument that we should tag St. Alas, and in German St

Re: [OSM-talk] shortened names

2011-07-27 Per discussione M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
...but the point is that here the name seems to be St Albans so why should we be the only ones to expand it? cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] shortened names

2011-07-27 Per discussione Steve Doerr
On 27/07/2011 18:23, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: ...but the point is that here the name seems to be St Albans so why should we be the only ones to expand it? So that satnavs can more easily work out how to pronounce it? -- Steve ___ talk mailing

Re: [OSM-talk] shortened names

2011-07-27 Per discussione Joseph Reeves
But that's just tagging for the renderer (or reader). If my sat nav can't pronounce st as saint I'd blame the software, not the data. On 27 Jul 2011 20:38, Steve Doerr doerr.step...@gmail.com wrote: On 27/07/2011 18:23, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: ...but the point is that here the name seems to

Re: [OSM-talk] shortened names

2011-07-27 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hi, Joseph Reeves wrote: But that's just tagging for the renderer (or reader). If my sat nav can't pronounce st as saint I'd blame the software, not the data. Yup... nothing against a special tag for a pronounciation hint though. Phonetic alphabet, anyone? Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm

Re: [OSM-talk] shortened names

2011-07-27 Per discussione Kay Drangmeister
Am 27.07.2011 19:22, schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer: Am 27.07.2011, 12:01 Uhr, schrieb Richard Fairhurstrich...@systemed.net: every native English speaker would pronunce St in that context as 'saint'. That, to me, is a pretty conclusive argument that we should tag St. In Italian S. can mean

Re: [OSM-talk] shortened names

2011-07-27 Per discussione Richard Mann
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 10:44 PM, Kay Drangmeister k...@drangmeister.net wrote: Am 27.07.2011 19:22, schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer: Am 27.07.2011, 12:01 Uhr, schrieb Richard Fairhurstrich...@systemed.net: every native English speaker would pronunce St in that context as 'saint'. That, to me,

Re: [OSM-talk] shortened names

2011-07-27 Per discussione M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/7/28 Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@gmail.com: name is what is on (the majority of) the signs name is the name. Or what would be the name if the sign-majority was defined and there were 2 differing signs? nil? Or if there was 1 sign and that was spellt wrong? Signs are indices, but

Re: [OSM-talk] shortened names

2011-07-27 Per discussione Ian
On Wednesday, July 27, 2011 3:04:13 PM UTC-5, Joseph Reeves wrote: But that's just tagging for the renderer (or reader). If my sat nav can't pronounce st as saint I'd blame the software, not the data. Should the satnav pronounce st. as saint or street?

Re: [OSM-talk] shortened names

2011-07-27 Per discussione Robin Paulson
On 28 July 2011 10:45, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/7/28 Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@gmail.com: name is what is on (the majority of) the signs name is the name. Or what would be the name if the sign-majority was defined and there were 2 differing signs?

Re: [OSM-talk] shortened names

2011-07-27 Per discussione Joseph Reeves
It's all about the placement: St Albans pronounced Saint Albans Albans St pronounced Albans Street Look at this road: http://osm.org/go/eutDvk@QV- Should we tag it: name: Magdalen Road pronounced: More-da-lin Road ? That's ridiculous if you ask me. If you're making sat nav software for a

Re: [OSM-talk] shortened names

2011-07-27 Per discussione Robin Paulson
On 28 July 2011 12:06, Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com wrote: name: Magdalen Road pronounced: More-da-lin Road ? That's ridiculous if you ask me. If you're making sat nav software for a market (the UK, France, America, etc.) you should be able to work out these things yourself. why?

[Talk-is] Hjólavefsjá.is lénið rennur út 16. ágúst

2011-07-27 Per discussione Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
Á ekki Reykjavíkurborg að vera halda þessu við? $ parallel -k 'whois {} | grep expire' ::: hjolavefsja.is xn--hjlavefsj-81a4q.is expires: August 16 2011 expires: August 16 2011 ___ Talk-is mailing list Talk-is@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-is] Hjólavefsjá.is lénið rennur út 16. ágúst

2011-07-27 Per discussione Svavar Kjarrval
Ég greiði árgjaldið fyrir mín lén á eindaga og mig grunar að Reykjavíkurborg geri það líka ef þeir ætla að greiða þau. Með kveðju, Svavar Kjarrval On 27/07/11 08:51, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: Á ekki Reykjavíkurborg að vera halda þessu við? $ parallel -k 'whois {} | grep expire' :::

Re: [Talk-de] Naturschutzgebiet

2011-07-27 Per discussione Karl Eichwalder
Falk Zscheile falk.zsche...@googlemail.com writes: § 23 Abs. 2 Satz 2 BNatSchG geht also davon aus, dass ein Betreten des Naturschutzgebietes grundsätzlich verboten ist (access=no) und ein Betreten explizit erlaubt werden muss. Das ist deine interpretation. Wenn da nicht drinsteht, dass das

Re: [Talk-de] Naturschutzgebiet

2011-07-27 Per discussione Falk Zscheile
Am 27. Juli 2011 08:43 schrieb Karl Eichwalder k...@gnu.franken.de: Falk Zscheile falk.zsche...@googlemail.com writes: § 23 Abs. 2 Satz 2 BNatSchG geht also davon aus, dass ein Betreten des Naturschutzgebietes grundsätzlich verboten ist (access=no) und ein Betreten explizit erlaubt werden

Re: [Talk-de] JOSM: gibt es ein Werkzeug - Flächen zu prüfen

2011-07-27 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hallo, On 07/27/11 12:39, Jan Tappenbeck wrote: Gibt es in JOSM eigentlich ein Werkzeug dieses auf Korrektheit zu prüfen - z.b. Doppelte node - Probleme in der Schließung. Direktes aufrufen einer Prüffunktion ist so mein Ziel. Es gibt ja den OSM Inspector, der solche Sachen kann. Den OSM

Re: [Talk-de] JOSM: gibt es ein Werkzeug - Flächen zu prüfen

2011-07-27 Per discussione Chris66
Am 27.07.2011 12:39, schrieb Jan Tappenbeck: ich habe eine Fläche die vermutlich irgendwo in der Geometrie nicht stimmt: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?way=123205144 Gibt es in JOSM eigentlich ein Werkzeug dieses auf Korrektheit zu prüfen Ja, nennt sich Validator. Du solttest Dir die

Re: [Talk-de] JOSM: gibt es ein Werkzeug - Flächen zu prüfen

2011-07-27 Per discussione Georg Feddern
Moin Jan, Jan Tappenbeck schrieb: Am 27.07.2011 13:22, schrieb Chris66: Am 27.07.2011 12:39, schrieb Jan Tappenbeck: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?way=123205144 Ja, nennt sich Validator. Du solttest Dir die rechte Ecke des Farmlands mal angucken. Chris wenn ich nur das Element lade

Re: [Talk-de] JOSM: gibt es ein Werkzeug - Flächen zu prüfen

2011-07-27 Per discussione fx99
sieht für mich auch gut aus. Hab den Weg mal in ein MP reingepackt, auch da heißt es geschlossen! -- View this message in context: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/JOSM-gibt-es-ein-Werkzeug-Flachen-zu-prufen-tp6625637p6625922.html Sent from the Germany mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

[Talk-de] Welche MaxHeight wird angegeben ?

2011-07-27 Per discussione Jan Tappenbeck
hi ! wenn man eine Bogendurchfahrt hat, dann ist am Rand die Durchfahrtshöhe anders als in der Mitte (idr). Wie würdet Ihr dieses bei maxheight anschreiben ? Gruß Jan :-) ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-de] JOSM: gibt es ein Werkzeug - Flächen zu prüfen

2011-07-27 Per discussione Chris66
Am 27.07.2011 14:02, schrieb Jan Tappenbeck: wenn ich nur das Element lade und die Prüfung im Validator aufrufe blinkt dieser einmal auf und das war es - keine Meldung im Fester! Komisch, bei mir hat er gesagt: Nicht geschlossener Flächentyp. Die Fläche macht einen geschlossenen Eindruck und

Re: [Talk-de] Welche MaxHeight wird angegeben ?

2011-07-27 Per discussione RalfGesellensetter
Hallo, physikalisch korrekt ist diese nur als mathematische Formel anzugeben - und wenn dann der LKW nicht zentriert den Tunnel trifft, oder eine Bodenwelle die Stoßdämpfer zu vertikalen Schwingungen anregt, kracht es dann dennoch... Am Mittwoch, 27. Juli 2011 schrieb Jan Tappenbeck: hi !

[Talk-de] Grundriss der Kathedrale zu Budweis (Budějovice)

2011-07-27 Per discussione RalfGesellensetter
Hallo In der Karte fiel mir auf, was die Daten bestätigen: http://www.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/map?bbox=14.4644844,48.964659,14.4844853,48.98466279995 Das windzerzauste Gemäuer ist vermutlich durch die Vektorisierung (von Luftbildern?) entstanden... Weiß wer mehr darüber? Gruß

Re: [Talk-de] Welche MaxHeight wird angegeben ?

2011-07-27 Per discussione Chris66
Am 27.07.2011 16:22, schrieb RalfGesellensetter: Fazit: Im Zweifel die offiziell angegebene (wie bei maxspeed auch) - nicht die physikalisch mögliche. Sonst: Toleranz einplanen. Das sowieso, aber bei Bogendurchfahrten gibt es eben 2 offizielle Angaben. Ich würde dann den von der Mitte nehmen.

[Talk-de] GoogleEarth-Bilder

2011-07-27 Per discussione Wolfgang Wienke
Hallo! Weiß jemand, wo man das Datum der Bilder einsehen kann? -- Mit freundlichen Gruessen Wolfgang Wienke ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-de] Welche MaxHeight wird angegeben ?

2011-07-27 Per discussione M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 27. Juli 2011 15:03 schrieb Jan Tappenbeck o...@tappenbeck.net: wenn man eine Bogendurchfahrt hat, dann ist am Rand die Durchfahrtshöhe anders als in der Mitte (idr). Wie würdet Ihr dieses bei maxheight anschreiben ? Du könntest den mittleren Wert als maxheight an den highway setzen und

Re: [Talk-de] JOSM: gibt es ein Werkzeug - Flächen zu prüfen

2011-07-27 Per discussione M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 27. Juli 2011 14:26 schrieb fx99 f...@vollbio.de: sieht für mich auch gut aus. Hab den Weg mal in ein MP reingepackt, auch da heißt es geschlossen! JOSM kann seit kurzem auch darstellen, ob ein Weg geschlossen ist (sieht man am Icon z.B. im Selection-fenster) Gruß Martin

Re: [Talk-de] GoogleEarth-Bilder

2011-07-27 Per discussione Steffen Heinz
Am 27.07.2011 17:39, schrieb Wolfgang Wienke: Hallo! Weiß jemand, wo man das Datum der Bilder einsehen kann? So auf Anhieb kann ich dir das nicht sagen, da ichs aber schon mal gemacht habe kann ich nur anmerken das die Daten nicht unbedingt stimmen. ich habe 10 Jahre unterschied feststellen

[Talk-de] Prozess auf Heimserver starten

2011-07-27 Per discussione andre
Hallo Liste, ich möchte meine Berechnungen für eine Garminkarte von meinem Desktoprechner auf einen Heimserver verschieben, damit der Prozess nicht meinen Desktop belegt. Dazu habe ich Ubuntu Server 10.04.2 LTS installiert. Die Verbindung stelle ich per ssh her. Wenn ich mich nun per ssh

Re: [Talk-de] Prozess auf Heimserver starten

2011-07-27 Per discussione Chris66
Am 27.07.2011 20:32, schrieb andre: Daher meine Frage, wie kann ich ein beliebiges Programm so starten dass es im Hintergrund läuft und sich nicht beendet wenn ich das ssh ausschalte? Da gab es mal das Programm nohub dafür. Chris ___ Talk-de

Re: [Talk-de] Prozess auf Heimserver starten

2011-07-27 Per discussione P.Priess
Am 27.07.2011 20:32, schrieb andre: Daher meine Frage, wie kann ich ein beliebiges Programm so starten dass es im Hintergrund läuft und sich nicht beendet wenn ich das ssh ausschalte? Sehr schön ist auch 'screen'. Du kannst mehrere Screens öffnen und Programme starten. Später kannst Du den

Re: [Talk-de] GoogleEarth-Bilder

2011-07-27 Per discussione Michael Bemmerl
Wolfgang Wienke schrieb: Weiß jemand, wo man das Datum der Bilder einsehen kann? Am unteren Rand steht bei großerem Zoom das Datum der Aufnahme. Grüße, Michael signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk-de mailing list

Re: [Talk-de] Prozess auf Heimserver starten

2011-07-27 Per discussione M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 27. Juli 2011 20:37 schrieb Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org: nohup meinprogramm.sh oder Du installierst Dir screen, das ist etwas komfortabler, weil Du da beim Wieder-Einloggen wieder die gleiche Shell-Sitzung zurueckholen kannst und so direkt siehst, was das Programm evtl. ausgegeben

Re: [Talk-de] Welche MaxHeight wird angegeben ?

2011-07-27 Per discussione Wolfgang
Hallo, Am Mittwoch 27 Juli 2011 15:03:56 schrieb Jan Tappenbeck: hi ! wenn man eine Bogendurchfahrt hat, dann ist am Rand die Durchfahrtshöhe anders als in der Mitte (idr). Wie würdet Ihr dieses bei maxheight anschreiben ? Wenn was dran steht, würde ich den Wert übernehmen, weil sich

Re: [Talk-de] Welche MaxHeight wird angegeben ?

2011-07-27 Per discussione M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 28. Juli 2011 00:33 schrieb Wolfgang wolfg...@ivkasogis.de: Wenn nichts dran steht und die Höhe 4m unterschreitet, ca. 2m von der Mitte auf beiden Seiten messen und den niedrigeren Wert abgerundet übernehmen. Der Fahrer eines entsprechenden Fahrzeuges sollte mit der Problematik vertraut

Re: [Talk-de] Prozess auf Heimserver starten

2011-07-27 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hi, M?rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: Man kann übrigens auch bereits laufende Programme anhalten und in den Hintergrund schicken: mit strg+z hält man das laufende Programm an mit bg 1 (oder einer anderen Nummer, je nach Ausgabe von jobs) kann man den Befehl dann in den Hintergrund schicken, mit fg 1

Re: [Talk-de] golem: Skobblers Forevermap 2.1 für Android ist fertig

2011-07-27 Per discussione Thomas Reincke
Am 27.07.2011 07:23, schrieb Benjamin Hagemann: Moin :) fyi golem: Skobblers Forevermap 2.1 für Android ist fertig http://www.golem.de/1107/85228.html Skobbler hat Forevermap 2.1 für die Android-Plattform veröffentlicht. Die Openstreetmap-Kartensoftware zeigt interessante Orte in der

[Talk-de] Aerowestbilder

2011-07-27 Per discussione Jan Tappenbeck
Hi ! es scheint soweit zu sein und in http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=13207 wird schon angefragt ob und wie man das ganze in JOSM einbinden kann. Weiß hier einer etwas dazu ?? Gruß Jan :-) ___ Talk-de mailing list

Re: [Talk-it] Nomi delle regioni

2011-07-27 Per discussione Federico Cozzi
2011/7/26 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: Concordo con Luca che si tratta cmq. di un bug che le regole di mapnik non renderizzano i regioni che non sono mappati con un nodo ma con un'area. Non conosco bene Mapnik e la cartografia automatica. Nelle mappe tradizionali la posizione

Re: [Talk-it] Nomi delle regioni

2011-07-27 Per discussione Luca Delucchi
Il 27 luglio 2011 08:58, Federico Cozzi f.co...@gmail.com ha scritto: Per questo motivo penso che il nodo al centro della regione per facilitare il piazzamento delle label sia un aiuto soltanto parziale per Mapnik. Nel caso Mapnik debba realizzare un planisfero, potrebbe seguire il

Re: [Talk-it] R: Re: R: Mappa degli itinerari ciclistici

2011-07-27 Per discussione Luca Delucchi
Il 26 luglio 2011 16:48, mima...@tin.it ha scritto: Ciao a tutti io avrei da inserire 2 percorsi di mountain bike con tanto di logo e sito web zona trentino. Si svolge su strade secondarie, ciclabili, strade forestali, sentieri etc. Come posso fare? Grazie Mich74 devi prima creare gli

Re: [Talk-it] R: Mappa degli itinerari ciclistici

2011-07-27 Per discussione Luca Delucchi
Il 26 luglio 2011 23:45, ale_z...@libero.it ale_z...@libero.it ha scritto: OT: Ci saranno informazioni e immagini delle mappe ultraobsolete! alcune info obsolete le avevo eliminate (tipo mapping party dell'anno scorso), alcune saranno rimaste. le immagini le ho rifatte (grazie a kiwi) ieri ma

Re: [Talk-it] Mappa degli itinerari ciclistici

2011-07-27 Per discussione Orlandi_IT_EmiliaRomagna
Ciao, come si fa a dichiarare un sentiero: -continental route -national route -regional route -local route Quale tag devo usare? type:route route:foot|bicycle ??:?? - http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Orlandi_IT_EmiliaRomagna -- View this message in context:

Re: [Talk-it] Mappa degli itinerari ciclistici

2011-07-27 Per discussione Luca Delucchi
2011/7/27 Orlandi_IT_EmiliaRomagna luca_orla...@hotmail.it: Ciao, come si fa a dichiarare un sentiero: -continental route -national route -regional route -local route Quale tag devo usare? type:route route:foot|bicycle ??:?? network:ncn / rcn / lcn / nwn / rwn /

Re: [Talk-it] Mappa degli itinerari ciclistici

2011-07-27 Per discussione Orlandi_IT_EmiliaRomagna
Ok, Grazie - http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Orlandi_IT_EmiliaRomagna -- View this message in context: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/Mappa-degli-itinerari-ciclistici-tp6618434p6625512.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Talk-it] Mappa degli itinerari ciclistici

2011-07-27 Per discussione Federico Cozzi
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Orlandi_IT_EmiliaRomagna luca_orla...@hotmail.it wrote: Ok, Grazie Di solito in Italia usiamo per i percorsi ciclabili: -ncn: rete nazionale (quella proposta da Bicitalia + poche altre) -rcn: rete regionale o provinciale (es. provincia di Trento, provincia di

[Talk-it] segnalazione: wolfram alpha use openstreetmap

2011-07-27 Per discussione Ruggero
http://blog.wolframalpha.com/2011/07/05/take-to-the-streets-with-wolframalpha/ ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it

Re: [Talk-it] Mappa degli itinerari ciclistici

2011-07-27 Per discussione Alberto Nogaro
Per gli utenti di smartphone, aggiungo che a cura di Jan Tappenbeck sono anche disponibili delle mappe di Lonvia in versioni adatte ad essere visualizzate su schermi piccoli, con un comodo tasto (Position??) che permette di centrare la mappa sulla propria posizione (stimata con il GPS integrato o

Re: [Talk-it] Nomi delle regioni

2011-07-27 Per discussione M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/7/27 Federico Cozzi f.co...@gmail.com: 2011/7/26 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: Concordo con Luca che si tratta cmq. di un bug che le regole di mapnik non renderizzano i regioni che non sono mappati con un nodo ma con un'area. Non conosco bene Mapnik e la cartografia

[Talk-co] Servidor para http://openstreetmap.co disponible

2011-07-27 Per discussione Fredy Rivera
Hola maperxs Para comentarles que ya tenemos disponible el servidor que aporto Banco Mundial para que trabajemos nuestra instancia OSM de Colombia. Por lo tanto el ofrecimiento es para quienes quieran colaborar en los proyectos posibles tales como el geocoder de Colombia, render , WMS etc.

Re: [Talk-co] Servidor para http://openstreetmap.co disponible

2011-07-27 Per discussione Leonardo Gutierrez
Sumerce muchas gracias por esas gestiones, y felicitaciones por ese logro El día 27 de julio de 2011 09:08, Fredy Rivera fredyriv...@gmail.com escribió: Hola maperxs Para comentarles que ya tenemos disponible el servidor que aporto Banco Mundial para que trabajemos nuestra instancia OSM de

Re: [Talk-co] Servidor para http://openstreetmap.co disponible

2011-07-27 Per discussione Igor TAmara
Hola, listo, abrimos una lista de desarrollo para ello? La idea es no hacer flood de las cosas que vayan sucediéndose por allá que sean como muy técnicas. Me apunto para ello. Mis intenciones son colaborar en : * Geocoder * Sysadmin Gracias :) El día 27 de julio de 2011 09:08, Fredy Rivera

Re: [Talk-co] Servidor para http://openstreetmap.co disponible

2011-07-27 Per discussione Fredy Rivera
2011/7/27 Igor TAmara i...@tamarapatino.org Hola Hola, listo, abrimos una lista de desarrollo para ello? La idea es no Me parece muy buena tu idea de crear una lista para desarrollo. hacer flood de las cosas que vayan sucediéndose por allá que sean como muy técnicas. Me apunto para ello.

Re: [Talk-co] Servidor para http://openstreetmap.co disponible

2011-07-27 Per discussione Germán Márquez Mejía
Am Wed, 27 Jul 2011 09:08:27 -0500 schrieb Fredy Rivera fredyriv...@gmail.com: Hola maperxs Para comentarles que ya tenemos disponible el servidor que aporto Banco Mundial para que trabajemos nuestra instancia OSM de Colombia. Por lo tanto el ofrecimiento es para quienes quieran

Re: [Talk-dk] [OpenStreetMap] Gadenavne i Lyngby

2011-07-27 Per discussione Jarl Friis
Hej Liste. Jeg er ny på listen, og Lars skrev til mig (og gjorde mig opmærksom på mailing listen), og jeg mener at hans mail til mig og mit svar har større værdi på listen end blot os to i mellem, så her kommer det: tagg m-200490-aa5...@messages.openstreetmap.org writes: Hej jarl, Jeg så du

[Talk-dk] Se OSM tags i QuantumGIS?

2011-07-27 Per discussione Emil Tin
Hej, Hvad er den bedst måde at se OSM data i Quantum GIS? Jeg arbejder data for området der dækker Københavns Kommune. Jeg har downloadet OSM data for Danmark fra GeoFabrik, og brugt osmosis til at udtrække data for København og lægge dem over i en PostGIS database. Jeg kan åbne data med

Re: [Talk-dk] Se OSM tags i QuantumGIS?

2011-07-27 Per discussione Soren Johannessen
Hej Hvad er den bedst måde at se OSM data i Quantum GIS? Åbner du OSM data fra en XX.osm fil via OpenStreetMap plugin i QGIS? Hvis ja så prøv at højre klikke ude ved layers på lines og dernæst open attribute table - nu skulle ting som user, tags osv dukke op i tabellerne For at se polygoner

Re: [Talk-dk] Se OSM tags i QuantumGIS?

2011-07-27 Per discussione Emil Tin
Hvis jeg bruger OpenStreetMap plugin i QGIS, kan jeg ikke få den til at åben en osm fil. I filvælgeren er alle filer grå - både .osm, .osm.xml og .osm.pbf filer. Hvilke filformat læser plugin'et? -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Soren Johannessen [mailto:soren.johannes...@gmail.com]

Re: [Talk-dk] [OpenStreetMap] Gadenavne i Lyngby

2011-07-27 Per discussione Lars Thegler
2011/7/27 Jarl Friis j...@softace.dk: Men fejlen skyldes forkerte vejnavne i OSAK-data Det var lidt af en påstand, har det danske OSM-miljø fået denne besked fra en officiel kanal fra KMS (Kort- og Matrikkelstyrelsen)? Eller er det blot din holdning til situationen? Jeg skulle nok ikke have

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