Re: help restoring XP computer

2018-02-22 Thread peter Chin via Talk
Yes, but unfortunately, I only have Windows 8.1, not Windows 10. -Original Message- From: James via Talk Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 3:03 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: James Subject: Re: help restoring XP computer Hi. That is why you use the Custom_system_restore App. Yo

RE: help restoring XP computer

2018-02-22 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
Hi Peter, As far as I can tell, that app works only in XP. Best, Rod Sent from Outlook 2010 for Windows -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of peter Chin via Talk Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 3:00 AM To: Jame

Re: Is it trure that window eyes won't work with windows 10 1803?

2018-02-22 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk
I did, but I hate jaws. Jaws acts as if we are simpletons. I hate, for instance, that, after you press enter on an email, after you already know who it is from and what the subject is, that you have to listen to the whole thing, not just the body of the message. I also hate that you can't tur

Re: help restoring XP computer

2018-02-22 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk
How can you use 8.1 on an xp computer? I'm sure you couldn't use windows 10, so I don't know why he gave you windows 10 instructions. Pam. -Original Message- From: peter Chin via Talk Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 2:59 AM To: James ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: peter Chin

RE: Is it trure that window eyes won't work with windows 10 1803?

2018-02-22 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
Hi Butch, Your questions are easy to ask but not quite so easy for me to answer. (smile) I learned macOS by simply grabbing a list of hot keys, and, with a little knowledge I gained here and there, I learned the underlying philosophy of VoiceOver, and so I just muddled through until, today, I ca

RE: Is it trure that window eyes won't work with windows 10 1803?

2018-02-22 Thread Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
You can turn the camas and periods off. Press insert then go to basic then to voice ajustments and set the punctuation to none. Have you tried the vocalizier Expressive voices? Pastor Gil -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+gilp=embarqmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Beha

Re: Is it trure that window eyes won't work with windows 10 1803?

2018-02-22 Thread John Covici via Talk
The thing is there is no one size fits all -- some programs don't work on MacOS at all such as quickbooks and the audio editing situation is more difficult. Web browsing can be very nice or lousy on some sites, so I think to get your work done you may need both MAC and WINDOWS. On Thu, 22 Feb 201

Re: window-eyes still working.

2018-02-22 Thread Russ Kiehne via Talk
Are you a part of the windows insider program? -Original Message- From: Curtis Delzer via Talk Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 8:44 PM To: wi...@win10.groups.io Cc: Curtis Delzer Subject: window-eyes still working. I just did that major update and window-eyes still is working using

Re: Is it trure that window eyes won't work with windows 10 1803?

2018-02-22 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk
I had done that, and it still says everything. I tried all of the stuff that we were given when the transfer was done. There were some setup tutorials on how to work it and how to set it up. How do I get to hear what those voices sound like? I think you have to buy them. Pam. -Origina

Re: window-eyes still working.

2018-02-22 Thread Bob Tinney via Talk
Window Eyes still works for me, I have Jaws, but still like WE. Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net On 2/22/2018 9:51 AM, Russ Kiehne via Talk wrote: Are you a part of the windows insider program? -Original Message- From: Curtis Delzer via Talk Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 8:44 PM To:

Re: Is it trure that window eyes won't work with windows 10 1803?

2018-02-22 Thread Russ Kiehne via Talk
It's my understanding you can turn off when jaws speaks who the message is from and subject when you open the message. -Original Message- From: Pamela Dominguez via Talk Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 5:03 AM To: ukekearu...@valtdnet.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Pamela Domi

RE: Is it true that window eyes won't work with windows 10 1803?

2018-02-22 Thread Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
The voices are free. Press insert j then go to the help menu. Arrow down until you hear, "More voices." Press enter. You want the premium voices Tom or Nathan are very good. If I can help further, you can call me at 702-568-5774. Pastor Gil -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounc

Re: Is it trure that window eyes won't work with windows 10 1803?

2018-02-22 Thread Russ Kiehne via Talk
Does the Mac have a program like openbook? -Original Message- From: John Covici via Talk Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 6:04 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: John Covici Subject: Re: Is it trure that window eyes won't work with windows 10 1803? The thing is there is no one siz

Re: Is it trure that window eyes won't work with windows 10 1803?

2018-02-22 Thread Russ Kiehne via Talk
The vocalizier Expressive voices are free with jaws. -Original Message- From: Pamela Dominguez via Talk Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 6:55 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Pamela Dominguez Subject: Re: Is it trure that window eyes won't work with windows 10 1803? I had done

Re: window-eyes still working.

2018-02-22 Thread Russ Kiehne via Talk
Are you using window eyes with the latest build of windows 10 as a part of the windows insider program? -Original Message- From: Bob Tinney via Talk Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 6:56 AM To: Russ Kiehne via Talk Cc: Bob Tinney Subject: Re: window-eyes still working. Window Eyes st

Re: Is it true that window eyes won't work with windows 10 1803?

2018-02-22 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk
I did insert j, and all it says is jaws home use. if I arrow down, it says the version, and the only other thing it asks me is if I want to update. If I tab, it says nothing. If I arrow, it says nothing else. So, help is useless. Pam. -Original Message- From: Pastor Gil Pries via

RE: Is it true that window eyes won't work with windows 10 1803?

2018-02-22 Thread Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
The more voices option is below training. Sounds like you have something on. Pastor Gil -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+gilp=embarqmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 7:47 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion

Re: window-eyes still working.

2018-02-22 Thread Tony C via Talk
Window eyes is still working, but I've noticed that with each update it becomes a bit mor "quirky". WE seems to jump down web pages more and more, and gos silent more often. -Original Message- From: Bob Tinney via Talk Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 8:56 AM To: Russ Kiehne v

Re: Is it true that window eyes won't work with windows 10 1803?

2018-02-22 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Sorry; I haven't used this insert j thing for a long time. I didn't hit the alt key after. But there is a lot to understand. Pam. -Original Message- From: Pamela Dominguez via Talk Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 10:46 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Pamela Dominguez Subjec

Re: Is it true that window eyes won't work with windows 10 1803?

2018-02-22 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk
A lot to understand about the JAWS user interface?Indeed. I've been on computers since the DOS days and have never seen a less user friendly interface. I couldn't come up with such a menacing mess if I tried. I don't know how their developers sleep at night. We have enough to battle with. I di

Re: Is it true that window eyes won't work with windows 10 1803?

2018-02-22 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk
At least I'm not the only one who feels like this. I know I am slow about things, so I felt like it was just me! Pam. -Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 11:43 AM To: Pamela Dominguez via Talk Cc: Tom Kingston Subject: Re: Is it true that

Re: Is it true that window eyes won't work with windows 10 1803?

2018-02-22 Thread bj colt via Talk
Hi Pam, Jws is the most cumbersome, antiquated interface imaginable. to is sluggish, clunky, long winded and I agree it is the worst screen reader of it's supposed class in the universe, in the known Universe.lol I detest it. I gave it a go and right from the start it started to bug me. I wil

Re: Is it true that window eyes won't work with windows 10 1803?

2018-02-22 Thread Loy Green via Talk
I agree, - Original Message - From: Tom Kingston via Talk To: Pamela Dominguez via Talk Cc: Tom Kingston Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 11:43 AM Subject: Re: Is it true that window eyes won't work with windows 10 1803? A lot to understand about the JAWS user interface

Re: Is it true that window eyes won't work with windows 10 1803?

2018-02-22 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk
I use window eyes, too, but I have been having a problem with window eyes. It doesn't read some kinds of email correctly, specifically the ones that come from yahoomail. Some lists are on yahoo. It jumps lines. One time when window eyes stopped talking and I had to have them fix it for me, th

RE: Is it true that window eyes won't work with windows 10 1803?

2018-02-22 Thread Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
Hi Pam, No problem Pastor Gil -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+gilp=embarqmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 8:09 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Pamela Dominguez Subject: Re: Is it true that w

RE: Is it trure that window eyes won't work with windows 10 1803?

2018-02-22 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
Hi Russ, If you are asking whether there is OCR software available for macOS, then the answer is a resounding yes. If you're asking whether there are software solutions available with all of the features you're used to in Openbook or Kurzweil 1000, I can't say for certain, but I haven't come ac

from window eyes to jaws to NVDA

2018-02-22 Thread brice Mijares via Talk
I also think Jaws sucks! I wasted money migrating to jaws. Don't remember the cost for 2 upgrades, somewhere around 120 bucks. I gave it a go for about one month and said F it! Been using NVDA ever since. occasionally use window eyes navigating windows itself, like control, panel, settings e

RE: from window eyes to jaws to NVDA

2018-02-22 Thread Sky Mundell via Talk
Glad you are giving NVDA a try. I'm afraid that FS is trying to suck the juice out of a dead line of software. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of brice Mijares via Talk Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 10:36 AM To: Window-Ey

Re: from window eyes to jaws to NVDA

2018-02-22 Thread brice Mijares via Talk
Yes, they can't get jaws to work correctly in edge or FX. Read yesterday that they finally fixed jaws to work in windows ten mail app. I use both mail app and Thunderbird. NVDA works great with FX 52.x.. I been learning to use Edge, but don't really like it. On 2/22/2018 10:50 AM, Sky Mundell

RE: from window eyes to jaws to NVDA

2018-02-22 Thread Sky Mundell via Talk
Absolutely and I'm afraid that they are doing this before they leave all together. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of brice Mijares via Talk Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 11:04 AM To: Sky Mundell via Talk Cc: brice Mijare

Re: Is it true that window eyes won't work with windows 10 1803?

2018-02-22 Thread bj colt via Talk
Hi Pam, I too have been getting the silence and i'm not sure what the cause is. I think it's the internet being so busy. I got an upgrade to my tv box on Virgin media yesterday and the difference is amazing. No hang ups at all. Fingers crossed. It might be that firefox could be the problem as

Re: from window eyes to jaws to NVDA

2018-02-22 Thread lynn white via Talk
Not to be contrary, I've been a Jaws user at home for over three years and love it after being a devoted Window-Eyes user since almost day one. I used Jaws for a number of years at work.  But, when they offered a great home use program, I jumped at the chance and was glad that I did even thou

Re: Is it true that window eyes won't work with windows 10 1803?

2018-02-22 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk
I use the last version of internet explorer. Pam. -Original Message- From: bj colt via Talk Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 2:25 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: bj colt Subject: Re: Is it true that window eyes won't work with windows 10 1803? Hi Pam, I too have been getting

Re: Is it true that window eyes won't work with windows 10 1803?

2018-02-22 Thread bj colt via Talk
Hi Pam, I will give ie a try later and let you know if it makes any difference. Live long and prosper, John ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For

version 9.5.4

2018-02-22 Thread Donald L. Roberts via Talk
I hope this request won't cause any list member to get bent out of shape as it certainly is not intended to offend anyone. Yesterday, I contacted V F O to request a link to the Window-eyes version 9.5.4. I did so because my copy is acting flaky, so I wanted to completely uninstall and subseque

Re: version 9.5.4

2018-02-22 Thread Loy Green via Talk
I could send you a copy by email if you can receive this large of a file. - Original Message - From: Donald L. Roberts via Talk To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Donald L. Roberts Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 4:05 PM Subject: version 9.5.4 I hope this request won

Re: version 9.5.4

2018-02-22 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk
I had the same problem. I am using window eyes, but I needed them to reinstall it. I told them what I needed, and I had pressed the button for help other than jaws, and they made me wait on the phone for two hours. I finally got a guy who said if I was using jaws, he could remote into my com

Re: version 9.5.4

2018-02-22 Thread net bat via Talk
have you tried cleaning the cd? all those finger prints will make the cd unreadable. grin -Original Message- From: Donald L. Roberts via Talk Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 1:05 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Donald L. Roberts Subject: version 9.5.4 I hope this request won't

Re: version 9.5.4

2018-02-22 Thread net bat via Talk
have you tried cleaning the cd? all those finger prints will make the cd unreadable. grin i also have all my cd's stored on carbinite and microsoft one drive as backups. -Original Message- From: Donald L. Roberts via Talk Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 1:05 PM To: Window-Eyes Discuss

Re: Is it trure that window eyes won't work with windows 10 1803?

2018-02-22 Thread Carol and Roger via Talk
Hi Pastor Gil, That should be insert-h, I believe. If everyone else has already answered this, please excuse me. I am over 100 messages behind, grin. Carol On 2/22/2018 8:42 AM, Pastor Gil Pries via Talk wrote: You can turn the camas and periods off. Press insert then go to basic then to

Re: Is it true that window eyes won't work with windows 10 1803?

2018-02-22 Thread Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk
I like Zoie, myself, but my wife hates her voice. Siome of her pronunciations are pretty wacky, but you can say that about any synthesizer. The difference is that you get used to a particular kind of wackiness. Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD http://lras.home.sprynet.com -Original Message

Re: version 9.5.4

2018-02-22 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk
Since VFO (apparently) no longer supports WE, why do you need a serial number? Why not just take a chance that there are old versions (for download) floating around the net? On 2/22/2018 4:05 PM, Donald L. Roberts via Talk wrote: > I hope this request won't cause any list member to get bent out

Re: from window eyes to jaws to NVDA

2018-02-22 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk
I realize that you can't speak for others, and that each of us has different needs, priorities, and biases, but I wonder why why some find Jaws to be clunky while others (such as you) are quite satisfied. I wonder if using "outdated" software (such as Windows-7) contributes to the problem. Th

Re: version 9.5.4

2018-02-22 Thread net bat via Talk
because if you find a full version it would be illegal and probibly would be infected with a virus or malware. or it would be a 20 minute demo. -Original Message- From: Nick Sarames via Talk Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 5:12 PM To: Donald L. Roberts via Talk Cc: Nick Sarames Subje

Re: from window eyes to jaws to NVDA

2018-02-22 Thread net bat via Talk
you don't have to stop useing window eyes . both can co exist fine. all i have to do is unload window eyes and then load jaws when i want to work with it. or set it so jaws will load on bootup instead. jaws can be unloaded with insert or capslock and f4 keys you can change the jaws key from the

Re: from window eyes to jaws to NVDA

2018-02-22 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk
I think that most of the people who like jaws have either used jaws since they started using computers, or have used it for years, even though they started off using something else. I started off with window bridge, and then I got window eyes about maybe fourteen years ago. I used older versi

Re: Is it true that window eyes won't work with windows 10 1803?

2018-02-22 Thread Butch Bussen via Talk
That is why I use window-eyes as often as I can and n v d a when needed. For example, I do find n v d a works much better onn my bank's web page. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Thu, 22 Feb 2018, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: A lot to understand about the JAWS user interface?Indeed.

Re: Is it true that window eyes won't work with windows 10 1803?

2018-02-22 Thread Butch Bussen via Talk
Yep, I agree totally. Just shows you what marketing and lining the right counselor's pockets can do. Spare me the denials, I was a client in Nevada and also worked for them for almost a year. Window-eyes never had a chance. They did provide me with Window-eyes, but it was a real struggle.

Re: from window eyes to jaws to NVDA

2018-02-22 Thread Mike Rogers via Talk
Also, with Jaws you can make the insert key a "Sticky" key. That way you hit insert and take your finger off and use the same hand to reach another. www.harmonicaworkshops.com On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 17:43:39 -0800 net bat via Talk wrote: > you don't have to st

Re: from window eyes to jaws to NVDA

2018-02-22 Thread Dennis via Talk
Jaws is a good screen reader. - Original Message - From: "Mike Rogers via Talk" To: "Window-Eyes Discussion List" Cc: "Mike Rogers" Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 9:18 PM Subject: Re: from window eyes to jaws to NVDA Also, with Jaws you can make the insert key a "Sticky" key. Th

Re: from window eyes to jaws to NVDA

2018-02-22 Thread Dennis via Talk
if you look at the sma cost as this it might not be so bad it's $5 a month about the cost of one star bucks coffee. - Original Message - From: "lynn white via Talk" To: "brice Mijares via Talk" Cc: "lynn white" Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 3:10 PM Subject: Re: from window eyes to