Re: The Bat! v. 2.12, full release is out

2004-07-14 Thread Chris Weaven
Hi Mary, On Tuesday, July 13, 2004 20:18 your local time, which was Wednesday, July 14, 2004 at 02:18 my local time, Mary Bull [MB] wrote; 8-- MB with the subject line: MB The Bat!. Version 2.12 released 8-- MB The Bat!. Version 2.12 MB Date: 16 Jul 2004.

White spot in the header

2004-07-14 Thread Jakub Moycho
Hello all! I have a strange problem for a long time. And I don't know how to solve it. I have hidden message header by default. And if the selected message is signed, the header appears temporarily and looks like on the attached picture. How to change this white color to

Re: White spot in the header

2004-07-14 Thread Jakub Moycho
Hello all! On Wednesday, July 14, 2004 (8:33:53 AM) I wrote: [..] and looks like on the attached picture. O_o Where is my attachment?! No matter, you can view it on: http://republika.pl/moycho/pliki/Header.png (536 bytes) -- Best regards, Jakub Moycho The Bat! 2.12.00 with BayesIt! 0.5.5

Re: Time to Upgrade (Was: One caveat about Folder View Settings in v. 2.11.02 [was Re: Time to Upgrade?])

2004-07-14 Thread Douglas Hinds
Hello Mary and others following this thread, In response to the message Mary Bull sent regarding Time to Upgrade (Was: One caveat about Folder View Settings in v. 2.11.02 [was Re: Time to Upgrade?]) Thanks for the note re the v. 2.12 release. As you'd said earlier, it was about to be released.

Hint of pouty smile

2004-07-14 Thread Jakub Moycho
Hello all! Am I blind or pipe character (|) is missing in hints of smiles :| and :-| ? -- Take care, Jakub Moycho The Bat! 2.12.00 with BayesIt! 0.5.5 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information:

Re: Some questions

2004-07-14 Thread Robin Anson
On Wed 14 July 2004, 15:38:03 +1000, Jakub Moycho wrote: I have some quick templates under account. Some of them have unchecked option Use for New messages/Mass mailing but are still visible in Utilities | Insert Quick templates submenu of Edit Mail Message editor, why? Because

Re: Mail ticker is not showing

2004-07-14 Thread Jan Halkes
I wrote 12/07/2004 11:21 I had one folder set for showing unread messages on the ticker This was a great way of attracting my attention to incoming messages especially filtered for that folder. Until I decided to change Display Mail Ticker(TM) Automatically into Display Mail Ticker(TM)

Re: Some questions

2004-07-14 Thread Jakub Moycho
Hello Robin! On Wednesday, July 14, 2004 (9:04:33 AM) You wrote: Because that menu item shows ALL your QTs Thanks. In that situation, don't you think, that the description Use for New messages/Mass mailing is a little confusing? Precisely phrase: New messages? -- Best of luck, Jakub

Re: Hint of pouty smile

2004-07-14 Thread Michael Geyer
Hi Jakub and list, On Wednesday, July 14, 2004 at 08:52:21 GMT +0200 (which was 08:52 where I live) Jakub Moycho wrote (at least in parts) and made these valuable points on the subject of Hint of pouty smile: Am I blind or pipe character (|) is missing in hints of smiles :| and :-| ?

Re: Hint of pouty smile

2004-07-14 Thread Bobi Jam
Hello Jakub, On Tuesday, July 13, 2004, at 08:52:21[GMT [EMAIL PROTECTED] (which was 23:52 where I live) Jakub wrote: Jakub Am I blind or pipe character (|) is missing in hints of smiles :| Jakub and :-| ? confirmed. -- Best regards, Bobi Jam TB! 2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1

Re[4]: Spaces After Periods

2004-07-14 Thread admin
I always thought it was two after a full stop, and one everywhere else. Depends on the 'typing school'. In the days of non-proportional, i.e: fixed width, fonts it was deemed better to place two spaces after full-stops (periods). This however looks ugly in the days of proportional fonts.

Re: No message size in the Mail Dispatcher

2004-07-14 Thread Cory
On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 02:06:43 +0700, Thomas Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: C To continue on this topic, I just found out that the Mail Dispatcher C of TB 2.02.3 CE (on my colleague's WinXP SP1) *does* show the message C sizes when using a POP3 account on Mailtraq v2.5.1.1580 - while my TB C

Re: Official announcement of Mary Bull to keeper of PCWSmileys

2004-07-14 Thread Cory
On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 12:43:33 -0500, Mary Bull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was honored to be offered the job. Congrats, Mary! ... Douglas Adams's *Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy* ... BTW A must-read for *any* biped, geek or no. (heed, list, heed!)

Re: Some questions

2004-07-14 Thread Robin Anson
On Wed 14 July 2004, 18:11:44 +1000, Jakub Moycho wrote: In that situation, don't you think, that the description Use for New messages/Mass mailing is a little confusing? Precisely phrase: New messages? Well, it refers to the menu option in the address book File-New message using template

Re: Time to Upgrade (Was: One caveat about Folder View Settings in v. 2.11.02 [was Re: Time to Upgrade?])

2004-07-14 Thread Allie Martin
Douglas Hinds, [DH] wrote: Maybe he needs you to remind him to reprimand me. (But since he participated in this thread with Time to Upgrade as the subject, maybe his understanding of the subject subject is similar to mine). Yes. I thought the subject was fine. -- -=[ Allie Martin ]=- List

Re: Time to Upgrade (Was: One caveat about Folder View Settings in v. 2.11.02 [was Re: Time to Upgrade?])

2004-07-14 Thread Allie Martin
Douglas Hinds, [DH] wrote: How many Sustainable Development, Alternative Agriculture, Co-op, GeneWatch and Political News lists do you subscribe to? You must get more biomed literature, though; and more things that need a reply. It doesn't really matter. Using the dispatcher to screen all

Bug?: TB! truncating lines exceeding 1010 characters (was: Re: Character Line Limit)

2004-07-14 Thread Allie Martin
Mike Dillinger, [MD] wrote: I have some friends who send me long emails and don't believe in formatting or hitting enter to separate paragraphs. Yes. This is rather common. I think I've found a bug in The Bat! where it seems to truncate lines that are longer than 1,010 characters. I can't

Re: Time to Upgrade (Was: One caveat about Folder View Settings in v. 2.11.02 [was Re: Time to Upgrade?])

2004-07-14 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Allie! On Wednesday, July 14, 2004, 6:07 AM, you wrote: MB Maybe he needs you to remind him to reprimand me. (But since he MB participated in this thread with Time to Upgrade as the subject, MB maybe his understanding of the subject subject is similar to mine). AM Yes. I thought the

X-Rogue header is better than roguemoticon in signature

2004-07-14 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo TBUDL, A new version of TB was released among us. It supports Roguemoticons (for more info see: http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/rogues.php ) and loads of extra smileys. As I prefer my smileys the old fashioned way, I'm not that enthusiastic about the additional smileys, but I do

Re: The Bat! Help files, including help with outsourced files

2004-07-14 Thread Anne
On Tuesday, July 13, 2004, 7:47:56 AM, Allister wrote in message: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: message dispatcher A Perhaps a little too paranoid in some eyes, but each to their own. But A think about how much this capability alone could attract users if they A could use at least the basic features

Re[2]: New spammer technique?

2004-07-14 Thread jan . rifkinson
On Tue, 13 Jul 2004, Martin posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in regards to New spammer technique? : C2 Any training suggestions for BayesIt? JR IMHO, you don't need bayesit to defeat 99.9% of all spam. I JR rarely see a spam I don't use bayesit. MW That was really helpful... Being less that

Re: Time to Upgrade (Was: One caveat about Folder View Settings in v. 2.11.02 [was Re: Time to Upgrade?])

2004-07-14 Thread Allie Martin
Mary Bull, [MB] wrote: AM Yes. I thought the subject was fine. Allie, could you please clarify the guidelines a bit more for me, then? I was really trying to cooperate with you when I changed the subject line in ... I realize this, empathize and appreciate the efforts you're making at

TB! 2.12.00 : Default addressbook problem

2004-07-14 Thread Andrew Cauthery
Greetings TBUDLers, I have TB! set up with two Account Groups, one for me, one for my wife, with separate shortcuts to the two groups using the command-line parameter /FOCUSU=, and in both Groups' Account Properties the default addressbook is set to default. Under 2.11.02 (and before), I see

I can't get Roguemoticons to work

2004-07-14 Thread Rick Friedman
Hello all! As of late last night, I am using TB! v2.12. I have just downloaded the Roguemoticon file (rogues.zip) but have been unable to get it to work. I unzipped it and placed the files (including the pdsf2.msl rogues.msl files) in /The Bat!/images. This is just a guess on my part since I

Re: I can't get Roguemoticons to work

2004-07-14 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Dear Rick, @14-Jul-2004, 08:50 -0400 (14-Jul 13:50 UK time) Rick Friedman said: I unzipped it and placed the files (including the pdsf2.msl rogues.msl files) in /The Bat!/images. This is just a guess on my part since I couldn't find any instructions anywhere on where to put these files.

Re: I can't get Roguemoticons to work

2004-07-14 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Marck, On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 14:01:37 +0100GMT (14-7-2004, 15:01 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MDP Oh yes - and hit Ctrl-Shift-Alt-T to register them. Didn't know that. I just unzipped the file in 'images' with TB closed down. Worked fine. -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion

Re: X-Rogue header is better than roguemoticon in signature

2004-07-14 Thread Zonnet
ON Wednesday, July 14, 2004, 2:02:21 PM, you wrote: RO And now I end this message with the plead to everyone to add their RO face to the roguemoticon gallery and add an X-Rogue: header. Hi Roelof, You convinced me. It was a bid of work to make a decent photo but here it is (or at least it

2.12.00 freezes on collect and can't quit

2004-07-14 Thread admin
Upgraded to 2.12.0 Now connection window loads all the tasks but nothing is collected. Just hangs. Abort all tasks clears the window but then accounts can't be asked to collect individually - they don't appear in the connection window. Also: (connected?) CTRL-ALT-DEL does not show The Bat as

2.12.00 No send data displayed

2004-07-14 Thread Marten Gallagher
Hi The message I just sent - went but there was nothing in the bottom half of the connection window to show what was happening. Marten Gallagher -- Annery Kiln Web Design Delivering Information Effectively www.annerykiln.co.uk Web Design and Site Management Web Hosting and Print Design This

URGENT - how do I easily get back to 2.11.02 from 2.12.00

2004-07-14 Thread Marten Gallagher
Hi URGENT ADVICE: How do I get back to 2.11.02 as easily and as quickly as possible please. Marten Gallagher -- Annery Kiln Web Design Delivering Information Effectively www.annerykiln.co.uk Web Design and Site Management Web Hosting and Print Design This e-mail is intended solely for the

Re: Time to Upgrade (Was: One caveat about Folder View Settings in v. 2.11.02 [was Re: Time to Upgrade?])

2004-07-14 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Allie! On Wednesday, July 14, 2004, 7:27 AM, you wrote: AM I can only give advice. Sorry for the delay in conversation. We had a little weather here overnight and real life took my attention for awhile here. Your advice is much appreciated. If you don't mind having one more post about

Re: spell checker - three usage questions / difficulties

2004-07-14 Thread Eric
Dear list, Mile mentioned having MeTB American-style -ize endings on MeTB words instead of the British -ise ending. Personally, I regard the -ize form as British. It's certainly the suffix preferred by the Oxford English Dictionary and the OUP. -- Eric Using TB! v2.11.02 on Windows XP

Changing the Subject Header (Was: Time to Upgrade (Was: One caveat about Folder View Settings in v. 2.11.02 [was Re: Time to Upgrade?]))

2004-07-14 Thread Douglas Hinds
Hello Mary and others following this thread, In response to the message Mary Bull sent to Allie on 14/07/2004 regarding Changing the Subject Header (sent with a Subject Header Time to Upgrade (Was: One caveat about Folder View Settings in v. 2.11.02 [was Re: Time to Upgrade?]) Since the focus

Re: URGENT - how do I easily get back to 2.11.02 from 2.12.00

2004-07-14 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Marten, On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 14:28:02 +0100GMT (14-7-2004, 15:28 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MG How do I get back to 2.11.02 as easily and as quickly as possible MG please. Download it at:

Re: Changing the Subject Header (Was: Time to Upgrade (Was: One caveat about Folder View Settings in v. 2.11.02 [was Re: Time to Upgrade?]))

2004-07-14 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Douglas! On Wednesday, July 14, 2004, 8:53 AM, you wrote: DH Secondly Mary, I never bawled you out. I simply changed the Subject DH Header back to what it was, since 1).- the subject hadn't changed DH and 2).- I was using the header to follow up / reply to the answers DH received. One or

2.12.00 cannot handle multiple accounts?

2004-07-14 Thread admin
I have 38 email accounts that get checked regularly. 2.12.00 fails and freezes with no way out but to kill the process using CTRL-ALT-DELETE. Have just gone back to 2.11.02 and all is well again. I use POPfile which means the fetch is proxied - whether that has anything to do with it I don't

Re: 2.12.00 cannot handle multiple accounts?

2004-07-14 Thread Thorvald Neumann
Hæ! Wednesday, July 14, 2004, 16:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2.12.00 fails and freezes with no way out but to kill the process using CTRL-ALT-DELETE. --- snip --- I use POPfile which means the fetch is proxied - whether that has anything to do with it I don't know. I am also autochecking

Filter to delete all msgs assigned to color group not working

2004-07-14 Thread jan . rifkinson
Battyfolks, See any fallacies in the following filter as I'm not sure it's working? The idea is that certain msgs preceeding the following filter are set to a certain color code. With this filter these msgs are to be deleted. BeginFilter Name: DELETE - all msgs in DELETE COLOR GROUP Active: 1

Re: 2.12.00 freezes on collect and can't quit

2004-07-14 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo admin, On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 14:26:22 +0100GMT (14-7-2004, 15:26 +0200, where I live), you wrote: A Although The Bat appears in no start-up menu anywhere, it is starting A automatically when the machine is re-booted (warm or cold). That's because you've checked: Options - Preferences -

Re: Filter to delete all msgs assigned to color group not working

2004-07-14 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo jan, On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 10:55:52 -0400GMT (14-7-2004, 16:55 +0200, where I live), you wrote: JR See any fallacies in the following filter as I'm not sure it's JR working? JR The idea is that certain msgs preceeding the following JR filter are set to a certain color code. With this filter

Re[2]: 2.12.00 freezes on collect and can't quit

2004-07-14 Thread admin
it is starting automatically when the machine is re-booted (warm or cold). That's because you've checked: Options - Preferences - General - 'Start program after system halt' Ah ha - correct. Doh! I'm seeing none of the problems you're describing, while I'm using the same TB and XP

Re[2]: 2.12.00 cannot handle multiple accounts?

2004-07-14 Thread admin
I am also autochecking multiple accounts and using Popfile, but it works without problems on my machine. So it's probably not that then. Well I don't know what it might be then. Anyone got any diagnostic suggestions? -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The

Re: Re[4]: Spaces After Periods

2004-07-14 Thread Joseph N.
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 10:39:23 GMT, wrote: This however looks ugly in the days of proportional fonts. Thus one space is recommended in that situation. Some people differ on those conclusions. While I'm all in favor of attractive type, the two-spaces-after-a-period approach has more than

Re: I can't get Roguemoticons to work

2004-07-14 Thread Rick Friedman
Hi Marck, Wednesday, July 14, 2004, 9:01:37 AM, you wrote: MDP Dear Rick, MDP @14-Jul-2004, 08:50 -0400 (14-Jul 13:50 UK time) Rick Friedman said: I unzipped it and placed the files (including the pdsf2.msl rogues.msl files) in /The Bat!/images. This is just a guess on my part since I

Re[2]: Filter to delete all msgs assigned to color group not working

2004-07-14 Thread jan . rifkinson
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004, Roelof posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in regards to Filter to delete all msgs assigned to color group not working : JR The idea is that certain msgs preceeding the following JR filter are set to a certain color code. With this filter JR these JR msgs are to be deleted. RO

Re: 2.12.00 freezes on collect and can't quit

2004-07-14 Thread Costas Papadopoulos
Hello, Wednesday, July 14, 2004, 6:13:46 PM, you wrote (possibly edited): Now all is checking fine and sending fine in 2.11.02. Apparently you have solved the problem. Note that I had the same problem, but I believe in my case it was due to a combination of Norton Antivirus and

Re: 2.12.00 cannot handle multiple accounts?

2004-07-14 Thread Martin Webster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED], On 14 July 2004, 16:15 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [A] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...snip A Anyone got any diagnostic suggestions? Are you using a software firewall? Did you register the new version with it? - -- As ever,

Re: HTML email (was: Re: Time to Upgrade?)

2004-07-14 Thread WilWilWil
==Original message text=== From: M i c C u l l e n [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Douglas Hinds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, July 13, 2004, 5:07:51 PM Subject: HTML email (was: Re: Time to Upgrade?) MicCullen On Tuesday, July 13, 2004 @ 10:01:09 PM, Douglas Hinds wrote:

Re: Filter to delete all msgs assigned to color group not working

2004-07-14 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo jan, On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 11:30:32 -0400GMT (14-7-2004, 17:30 +0200, where I live), you wrote: JR I think it says should *NOT* be part of my AB , yes, that is JR intentional. Yes, of course that's what I should've said, but I was called away by an acquaintance of mine (definitely not a

Re: Spaces After Periods

2004-07-14 Thread Plan9
Wednesday, July 14, 2004, 11:24:37 AM, Joseph wrote: JN On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 10:39:23 GMT, wrote: This however looks ugly in the days of proportional fonts. Thus one space is recommended in that situation. JN Some people differ on those conclusions. While I'm all in favor JN of attractive

Spell Checher in HTML

2004-07-14 Thread joeo
Hi TBUDL, When i use the html editor I cannot get the spell checker to work. It works fine if I select the text editor. Any and all help will be appreciated! -- Best regards, Joe O mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wednesday, July 14, 2004 12:19:00 PM

Re[2]: Filter to delete all msgs assigned to color group not working

2004-07-14 Thread jan . rifkinson
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004, Roelof posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in regards to Filter to delete all msgs assigned to color group not working : RO snip were you just afraid that you might have overlooked RO something? /snip yes RO When you'rew doubting a 'delete' filter, you can always set it RO up as

I'm not sure TB! counts msgs right.... or maybe it's just me.

2004-07-14 Thread jan . rifkinson
Battyfolks, If I set folder properties to limit 50 msgs in the folder, I get 51 msgs. If I set the limit to 49, TB! allows 50. Does anyone besides me think this is weird counting? -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.12.00/W2K_SP4 ICQ 41116329

Re: Spaces After Periods

2004-07-14 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Plan9, On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 12:21:27 -0400GMT (14-7-2004, 18:21 +0200, where I live), you wrote: P I too like to see two spaces after a period ends a sentence for the P reasons stated above. I suspect that the conversion from two spaces to P one occurs when text editors with too little

Re: I'm not sure TB! counts msgs right.... or maybe it's just me.

2004-07-14 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo jan, On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 12:35:22 -0400GMT (14-7-2004, 18:35 +0200, where I live), you wrote: JR If I set folder properties to limit 50 msgs in the folder, I get JR 51 msgs. If I set the limit to 49, TB! allows 50. JR Does anyone besides me think this is weird counting? Are you per

Re: Spell Checher in HTML

2004-07-14 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo joeo, On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 12:20:15 -0400GMT (14-7-2004, 18:20 +0200, where I live), you wrote: J When i use the html editor I cannot get the spell checker to work. It J works fine if I select the text editor. That's a known issue (read 'bug'), set it 'Check before send/queue'. I've

Re[2]: 2.12.00 cannot handle multiple accounts?

2004-07-14 Thread admin
Are you using a software firewall? Yes Did you register the new version with it? Yes -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 2.11.02 with POPFile 0.21.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 2.12.00

Re[2]: Spaces After Periods

2004-07-14 Thread admin
JN Type is easier to read JN quickly, and it's easier to read aloud if necessary, when JN sentences are subtly separated by that extra space. But any book, novel or otherwise with a proportional font has only one space. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The

Re[2]: 2.12.00 freezes on collect and can't quit

2004-07-14 Thread admin
Hello, Wednesday, July 14, 2004, 6:13:46 PM, you wrote (possibly edited): Now all is checking fine and sending fine in 2.11.02. Apparently you have solved the problem. Not in 2.12.00... -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 2.11.02 with

Re: New spammer technique?

2004-07-14 Thread Mica Mijatovic
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was Wed, 14 Jul 2004, at 08:21:37 -0400, @ @ when [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If there is interest in how to defeat spam w/o bayesit, it has been discussed quite frequently on this list see archives , in

Re[2]: Spaces After Periods

2004-07-14 Thread admin
Proportional font is the key. Not everyone uses proportional fonts Well I did actually say exactly that in my first contribution to this thread. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 2.11.02 with POPFile 0.21.1 on Windows XP 5.1

Email address picker icons missing

2004-07-14 Thread Costas Papadopoulos
Hello, The email address picker's drop down list is missing the icons for each entry. This was mentioned in the TB Beta Forum, but it has not been fixed in the release version. -- Best regards, Costas Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1

How to ensure line formatting in quick templates?

2004-07-14 Thread Costas Papadopoulos
Hello, How can I ensure that the following entry in a quick template will appear on a single line in the message where I use it? %SetHeader(X-Archive,expiry=0)Using The Bat! v%THEBATVERSION on %WINDOWSPLATFORMNAME %WINDOWSMAJORVERSION.%WINDOWSMINORVERSION Build% %WINDOWSBUILDNUMBER

Re: Spaces After Periods

2004-07-14 Thread Jernej Simoni
On Wednesday, July 14, 2004, 17:24:37, Joseph N. wrote: Type is easier to read quickly, and it's easier to read aloud if necessary, when sentences are subtly separated by that extra space. I prefer monospaced font for reading e-mail, and the font of my choice (Lucida Console) has both the

Which version of PGP to use.

2004-07-14 Thread Zonnet
Hi Bat Users, I would like to hear from other TB user which version currently works best with TB and if there are any pitfalls to look out for. Thanks. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- A ball will always come to rest halfway down

Re: Which version of PGP to use.

2004-07-14 Thread Kevin Amazon
Hi Zonnet - On Wed, 14 Jul 2004, at 20:03:35 [GMT +0200] (which was 11:03 AM where I live) you wrote: Hi Bat Users, I would like to hear from other TB user which version currently works best with TB and if there are any pitfalls to look out for.

Re: How to ensure line formatting in quick templates?

2004-07-14 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Costas, On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 20:56:39 +0300GMT (14-7-2004, 19:56 +0200, where I live), you wrote: CP How can I ensure that the following entry in a quick template will CP appear on a single line in the message where I use it? CP %SetHeader(X-Archive,expiry=0)Using The Bat!

Re: Which version of PGP to use.

2004-07-14 Thread Plan9
Wednesday, July 14, 2004, 2:03:35 PM, Zonnet wrote: Z I would like to hear from other TB user which version currently works best Z with TB and if there are any pitfalls to look out for. I used PGP 7.0.3 up until a few days ago and now use 8.0.3. Both free versions and both worked flawlessly. If

Re: OT: Spaces After Periods

2004-07-14 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Wed 14-Jul-04 1:20pm -0400, Leif Gregory wrote: This has started going off-topic, please take it to PM or TBOT. Well you're the moderator and I also hate to see all the talk of preferences. But this editor bug is near the top of my list of pet peeves with TB!. It falls right after the lack

Re: How to ensure line formatting in quick templates?

2004-07-14 Thread Costas Papadopoulos
You could set it at one single line in the QT, since the text it generates is so short that it won't come on multiple lines Strangely, in my original QT it would wrap around in my message when I tried it. However, when I copied and pasted your version into my QT replacing what I had, it

Re: OT: Spaces After Periods

2004-07-14 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Bill, Wednesday, July 14, 2004, 12:39:55 PM, you wrote: Bill Well you're the moderator and I also hate to see all the talk of Bill preferences. But this editor bug is near the top of my list of Bill pet peeves with TB!. It falls right after the lack of in-mail Bill and out-mail filtering.

Re: X-Rogue header is better than roguemoticon in signature

2004-07-14 Thread Zonnet
ON Wednesday, July 14, 2004, 8:55:46 PM, you wrote: PO Rather close, but... the handles don't match : PO X-Rogue: :Gerard_de_Vries: PO Smiley = .\rogues\Gerard_de_Vries.jpg, 0, :Gerard: Hi Peter, I made a mistake when entering a handle. It should be OK now. Is there an updated rogues file

Re: X-Rogue header is better than roguemoticon in signature

2004-07-14 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Zonnet, On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 21:17:25 +0200GMT (14-7-2004, 21:17 +0200, where I live), you wrote: PO Rather close, but... the handles don't match : PO X-Rogue: :Gerard_de_Vries: PO Smiley = .\rogues\Gerard_de_Vries.jpg, 0, :Gerard: Z I made a mistake when entering a handle. Z It should be

Re: Which version of PGP to use.

2004-07-14 Thread Zonnet
ON Wednesday, July 14, 2004, 8:35:47 PM, you wrote: P I used PGP 7.0.3 up until a few days ago and now use 8.0.3. Both free P versions and both worked flawlessly. If you decide to use 8.0.3 Free P version just un-check all the additional pieces it wants to load P (email plugins, etc.) and load

Re: Which version of PGP to use.

2004-07-14 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Zonnet, on Wed, 14 Jul 2004 20:03:35 +0200GMT, you wrote: Z I would like to hear from other TB user which version currently works best Z with TB and if there are any pitfalls to look out for. GnuPG works pretty well here, as does PGP 6.5.8ckt. These are the only versions I have tried here.

Re: In-mail and Out-mail Examples (was: OT: Spaces After Periods)

2004-07-14 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Wed 14-Jul-04 2:07pm -0400, Leif Gregory wrote: Wednesday, July 14, 2004, 12:39:55 PM, you wrote: Well you're the moderator and I also hate to see all the talk of preferences. But this editor bug is near the top of my list of pet peeves with TB!. It falls right after the lack of in-mail

Re: X-Rogue header is better than roguemoticon in signature

2004-07-14 Thread Zonnet
ON Wednesday, July 14, 2004, 9:26:11 PM, you wrote: Z I made a mistake when entering a handle. Z It should be OK now. RO It is. Hi Roelof, Hope I did not scare you ;-) Thanks for the instructions on how to set this up. It was very easy. -- Best regards, Gerard

Re: Which version of PGP to use.

2004-07-14 Thread Plan9
Wednesday, July 14, 2004, 3:31:07 PM, Zonnet wrote: Z Thanks that was helpful. I installed the, what I believed to be the free Z PGP version, and am now tinkering with it. Z Do you have to click later every time you start it up at the key entry? No. I only clicked on it once and have not seen

Re: In-mail and Out-mail Examples (was: OT: Spaces After Periods)

2004-07-14 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Bill, Wednesday, July 14, 2004, 1:34:32 PM, you wrote: Bill Yes. An example of missing in-mail filtering is the lack of Bill functionality to clean up subject lines as email arrives (with Bill either an internal script or external program). An example of Bill out-mail filtering is the

Re: Which version of PGP to use.

2004-07-14 Thread Zonnet
ON Wednesday, July 14, 2004, 9:46:24 PM, you wrote: P In my previous post I failed to point you to P https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/ehowes/www/ss/pgp8fw/pgp8fw.htm which is a P very good installation tutorial for version 8. You may want to visit it to P see if this is the way you installed PGP. If

Re: In-mail and Out-mail Examples

2004-07-14 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Wed 14-Jul-04 2:55pm -0400, Leif Gregory wrote: Wednesday, July 14, 2004, 1:34:32 PM, you wrote: Yes. An example of missing in-mail filtering is the lack of functionality to clean up subject lines as email arrives (with either an internal script or external program). An example of

When to change subjects within an ongoing thread (Was: Re: Time to Upgrade)

2004-07-14 Thread Allie Martin
Mary Bull, [MB] wrote: Sorry for the delay in conversation. We had a little weather here overnight and real life took my attention for awhile here. That's no problem. We all have to live in and around these lists. :grin: Your advice is much appreciated. If you don't mind having one more

Re: In-mail and Out-mail Examples

2004-07-14 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Bill, On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 15:12:24 -0500GMT (14-7-2004, 22:12 +0200, where I live), you wrote: BM Yes, it's great for some things, like changing a header line. But, BM AFAIK, it can't add headers that I include at the beginning of a BM message (with, for example, tokens around them). I

Re: X-Rogue header is better than roguemoticon in signature

2004-07-14 Thread Rick Friedman
On Wednesday, July 14, 2004, 3:26:11 PM, Roelof wrote: RO Hallo Zonnet, RO On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 21:17:25 +0200GMT (14-7-2004, 21:17 +0200, where I RO live), you wrote: PO Rather close, but... the handles don't match : PO X-Rogue: :Gerard_de_Vries: PO Smiley = .\rogues\Gerard_de_Vries.jpg, 0,

Re: I can't get Roguemoticons to work

2004-07-14 Thread Allie Martin
Rick Friedman, [RF] wrote: Actually, I got it worked out before I saw your message. I moved the images to images/rogues and it works fine. However, I didn't get rid of the pdsf2.msl file. Yes. I have my pdsf2.msl file here and it doesn't create problems with functionality. Nor did I have to

Re: subject hijacking

2004-07-14 Thread Allie Martin
Rich Gregory, [RG] wrote: I like the term hijacking! I have come to try to NOT change a subject AT ALL unless the thread is COMPLETELY no longer relevant to the subject, in which case (as here) I now start another thread. That's a safe approach. :) Just remember that this judgement call is

Re: 2.12.00 cannot handle multiple accounts?

2004-07-14 Thread Allie Martin
Marten Gallagher, [MG] wrote: Did you register the new version with it? Yes Did you try the check with the firewall disabled? -- -=[ Allie Martin ]=- List Moderator and fellow end-user PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com pgpBZJsFEV1ba.pgp Description: PGP signature

Autoformat leaves those extra spaces after periods.

2004-07-14 Thread Allie Martin
Hi all, Just for those who wish to preserve those extra spaces after periods. Though Alt-L will remove them when reflowing text, Autoformat will not. Toggle on auto-format and try it, i.e., CTRL+Shift+F. The thing with autoformat is that it will reflow to perfection any text that isn't

Re[2]: Which Anti-Spam (other than bayesit).

2004-07-14 Thread Chris Weaven
Hi Michael, On Tuesday, July 13, 2004 14:24 your local time, which was 22:24 my local time, Michael Wilson [MLW] wrote; MLW It has got to be SpamPal. Free and everything you say, except not a MLW plug-in. I've decided to give SpamPal ago, and it seems to be working well, but I'm having a

Re[2]: 2.12.00 cannot handle multiple accounts?

2004-07-14 Thread admin
Marten Gallagher, [MG] wrote: Did you register the new version with it? Yes Did you try the check with the firewall disabled? As I said earlier - YES. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 2.11.02 with POPFile 0.21.1 on Windows XP 5.1

Re[2]: I'm not sure TB! counts msgs right.... or maybe it's just me.

2004-07-14 Thread jan . rifkinson
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004, Roelof posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in regards to I'm not sure TB! counts msgs right or maybe it's just me. : RO Hallo jan, RO On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 12:35:22 -0400GMT (14-7-2004, 18:35 +0200, where I RO live), you wrote: JR If I set folder properties to limit 50 msgs in

Running 3rd Party Software with TB!

2004-07-14 Thread Chris Weaven
Hello users, I'm just wondering if this it at all possible? When I open TB!, can I also trigger a 3rd party program to run at the same time (maybe via a script or something)? For example, I would only like to run a proxy anti-spam program when I open TB! What would be even better, is being

Re: Running 3rd Party Software with TB!

2004-07-14 Thread Chris Weaven
Hi Chris, On Wednesday, July 14, 2004 22:28 our local time, Chris Weaven [CW] wrote; CW I'm just wondering if this it at all possible? It is!!! I sussed it! CW When I open TB!, can I also trigger a 3rd party program to run at the CW same time (maybe via a script or something)? The joys of

Re[2]: New spammer technique?

2004-07-14 Thread jan . rifkinson
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004, Mica posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in regards to New spammer technique? : MM -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- MM Hash: SHA1 MM***^\ ._)~~ MM ~( __ _o Was Wed, 14 Jul 2004, at 08:21:37 -0400, MM@ @ when [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If there is interest in

Re: I'm not sure TB! counts msgs right.... or maybe it's just me.

2004-07-14 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo jan, On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 17:24:50 -0400GMT (14-7-2004, 23:24 +0200, where I live), you wrote: RO snip When you collect a message everyday in a certain RO folder, that folder will always have one message more than RO TB's setting. (Provided you open TB once everyday.) /snip JR I'm not

Re[2]: I'm not sure TB! counts msgs right.... or maybe it's just me.

2004-07-14 Thread jan . rifkinson
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004, Roelof posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in regards to I'm not sure TB! counts msgs right or maybe it's just me. : RO snip When you collect a message everyday in a certain RO folder, that folder will always have one message more than RO TB's setting. (Provided you open TB once

Re: I'm not sure TB! counts msgs right.... or maybe it's just me.

2004-07-14 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo jan, On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 17:40:33 -0400GMT (14-7-2004, 23:40 +0200, where I live), you wrote: JR Ah... well. Let me be more specific then. This is not a folder JR in which I get one msg a day, this is my junk folder which gets JR dozens of msgs daily. Given that extra bit of

Re: New spammer technique?

2004-07-14 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Wednesday, July 14, 2004, 5:36 PM, you wrote: jrsn First thing is to filter out all msgs that are not addressed to jrsn you. That will take care of the majority of the msgs. this sounds backwards. Here is my idea: 1. known filter for everyone in your AB 2. all lists to separate folders

Re[2]: 2.12.00 cannot handle multiple accounts?

2004-07-14 Thread admin
Marten Gallagher, [MG] wrote: Did you register the new version with it? Yes Did you try the check with the firewall disabled? Yes have now... exactly the same - total freeze - only way out is to stop the process using CTRL_ALT_DEL. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design

OT: pausing tbudl list subscription

2004-07-14 Thread jwayne
Is there a way to easily pause a subscription (say I'm going on vacation) instead of un-subscribe / re-subscribe which normally takes two requests / confirmations? Thanks - jon -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL'

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