TheBat and IMAP4
Hello, I just started to evaluate The Bat! as my new mailclient. So probably I have very simple questions. If this is so, I'm sorry about it. While I read my mails from different places I like to use IMAP4 instead of POP. I can use both at the server. How can I create a new folder on the IMAP4 server from The Bat! How can I define filter to move mails on an other folder on the server? In the future I want to leave all my mails on the server and just manage them with The Bat!. Is this possible? I found no way. And while I'm just writing another question about filter. I like an action to open a message or a popup window at filtering. Is this possible? Thanx, Christian -- Christian Bonkowski, Fraunhofer IMK, NetMedia, Tel.: +49 2241 14 -1949, Fax: -2597 www.listserv.dfn.de - Verteilerlisten im DFN-Verein Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: special message header to show
ON Friday, February 14, 2003, 10:25:41 AM, you wrote: BS imho there would be two possibilites: BS 1. free definition using a text field (somewhere ;)) BS 2. all special headers of the currently displayed mail would be added BSto the menu Hi Benjamin, At the moment you already have the option of setting the Comments header. As long as you use something that is not used by other fields in the headers you can search for it using the Kludges option in the filters. I use this to do some intricate filtering between accounts and it works fine. I also use X-ray to remove the header on sending. X-Ray can also be used to change the From and Reply headers if you need that. What I am saying is something I have said before, if we could integrate the functionality of X-Ray into TB!, it would make an impressive team. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Universal Laws of Golf: All 3-woods are demon-possessed. Using The Bat! v1.62h on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
default to thread view
Hello TBUDL listers, Is there a way to make all folders default to view threads by, reference. If there is a quick way to do this that'd be fantastic as the idea of going through every folder fills me with dread. -- bfn ~kristina [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Composed on 17/02/2003 at 12:03 using The Bat Ver 1.62i Attachments = none Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: default to thread view
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Re: Default E-Mail Client Problem
On Sunday, February 16, 2003, 10:04 PM, you wrote: K I hesitate to uninstall Becky, as I have two years of old e-mail on it K (that I transferred from my old computer), is there an export feature in Becky??? under TB Tools-Import feature you can see that TB has a variety of ways to import old mail messages.. I use TB with Windos XP Home and I have no problems. I got my wife to convert from Outlook 2K ! I use the 1.63 beta 5 because the beta 6 added too many REAL beta problems, and I want a stable environment for my wifes email program. I use Mozilla as my default client, but I also have Opera and IE installed, so I can pretty much test anything:) and I have not seen YOUR problem yet! -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: default to thread view
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi kristina, @17-Feb-2003, 12:04 kristina [K] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: K Is there a way to make all folders default to view threads by, K reference. Yes, but not immediately. K If there is a quick way to do this that'd be fantastic as the K idea of going through every folder fills me with dread. Okay - but you have a bullet to bite. You do have to go through every folder, but only to set the Use account default column settings switch for each. Once this is set, any change you make to one folder with that option set will apply to all the others too. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/6 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1rc1-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE+UNCeOeQkq5KdzaARAkuoAJ4gHH2g+ZlGefOs38l9Q5YSPMPRcwCgzrw0 3Muxob25jwpuaoHymAT/fUQ= =d0gz -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: BCC
Hello Jonathan, Wednesday, February 5, 2003, 4:52:58 PM, you wrote: JA (if you're interested, I can give you all the technical docs on this). My problems with BCC's are over, but I'm still interested though, if it's not too difficult and as far as you're talking about digital docs :-) -- Best Whishes, Mark using The Bat! 1.62i Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problem is XP not TB! [was Re: Default E-Mail Client Problem]
Hello Geoff! On Monday, February 17, 2003, 1:57 AM, you wrote: G On 17 February 2003, 02:08, Mary Bull wrote: MB [XP]takes forever to hunt out a file, and sometimes it will deny MB that it exists ... snip Geoff, the advice below is really going to help me as I use The Bat! within XP. Everyone, if this is to be further discussed, what about continuing it on tbot? G 1. ... Windows XP ... [doesn't search] Program Files ... Gby default. To include these folders, in the Search Companion Gexpand Search Options, then Advanced Options, and select GSystem Folders. G 2. [In my case]: An Index Server index had become corrupted. To Grebuild a corrupted index, go to Administrative Tools - Computer GManagement (which you can access by right-clicking My Computer in Gthe Start Menu and choosing Manage). Now Expand Services and GApplications, then Indexing Service, then System. Now click GDirectories. Right click the entry for the Directory that you know Gcontains your file and choose All Tasks - Rescan (Full). Many thanks, again, Geoff. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: BCC
Hello Peter, Friday, February 14, 2003, 10:17:09 AM, you wrote: PP As bad as the result is to you, I'm somehow glad to know: PP there seems not to be a bug in The Bat! regarding this issue PP :-) I now no longer have any problem with the BCC's, so I can close this thread completely. I do have some other minor problems, but since they are not related to this subject I will talk about them in other messages. PP Yes :-) No ... _I_ missed a character :-) Who did you miss? :-) -- Best Whishes, Mark using The Bat! 1.62i Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Default E-Mail Client Problem
Hello Geoff! On Monday, February 17, 2003, 1:57 AM, you wrote: G ... I had something similar [to Kim's problem: G Message-ID: 702179674.20030216200400] when I first started with G TB (at 1.53d). In my case, it was because the Registry had no entry G for TB. ... I needed to log on as an administrator and then reinstall G TB, after which all went well. ... Taken out of order: G ... If you search the archives for this list, you should find my G cries of woe and the very informed resolution. ... Just in case Kim and others can't find the URL to the tbudl archives easily, I went to Silverstones.com and hunted it out again, having temporarily mislaid it, myself. :) http://www.mail-archive.com/kiss@worldless.net/ -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Default E-Mail Client Problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Monday, February 17, 2003 7:42:26 AM RE: Default E-Mail Client Problem Greetings Kim, On Sunday, February 16, 2003, 8:04:00 PM, you wrote: K The only work-around that I've been able to find is to remove the K check from Check that The Bat is the default mail client at startup K from The Bat preferences. When I do this, all behaves normally. Also, K Becky 2 again appears in the Use default e-mail client on computer K box in Opera, when I remove the default check from The Bat K preferences. This is a very reproducible problem, as I tested it out K multiple times, each time with the same result. Do you have The_Bat! set as the system default MAPI Request Handler? Using a beta version of The_Bat! has the preferences and options set up different than 1.62i but I know there is a toggle box to do so. If it is not the default MAPI handler make it so. If it is then I believe you also have the option to remove it as the handler. Either way, give it a look see and set it opposite of how it is currently set. IIRC I had this same problem on an XP machine where it was toggled on and all kinds of hell broke loose. Of course YMMV. Anyway - -- Regards, DG Raftery Sr. If you think there is good in everybody, you haven't met everybody. The_Bat! 1.63 Beta/6 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP for Business Security 6.0 iQA/AwUBPlDa4DaPwvRMcz9cEQKwwQCgzOl8v96NDhwxVXUcICDLM/kY440An2qL bLfnxfUCzBt3REJ4CHbMZEoz =8F/2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bat Process not exiting
Hey folks, I've experienced a similar problem with the last few version of The Bat - I've duplicated the problem on 2 seperate machines running Win2k and XP. I exit The Bat! and later when I try to start the program again, it will not start. This also affects other things (sometimes IE will not open a new window etc) - When I check the task list, there is a process for The Bat! still running (even though the program is not visible). Ending the task sends everything back to normal. Has anyone had a similar problem? Any suggestions? thanks Kent --- Kent Villard mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] IT Resource DeveloperUniversity of Prince Edward Island Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Default E-Mail Client Problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Mary, @17-Feb-2003, 06:47 -0600 (12:47 UK time) Mary Bull [MB] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: G ... If you search the archives for this list, you should find my G cries of woe and the very informed resolution. ... MB Just in case Kim and others can't find the URL to the tbudl MB archives easily, I went to Silverstones.com and hunted it out MB again, having temporarily mislaid it, myself. :) MB http://www.mail-archive.com/kiss@worldless.net/ I think that's the wrong archive - it's the Indonesian list! You want either the redirect URL: http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com or the absolute address, which is http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/6 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1rc1-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE+UN4fOeQkq5KdzaARAgpdAKCdw56qNx8Z7aS1QAOYtW1rZ4o3zwCfQk+4 xQoVR05ZIg0x3ds3ZobyjiE= =Wst9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat Process not exiting
Kent, Monday, February 17, 2003, 12:58:21 PM, Kent wrote: : I exit The Bat! and later when I try to start the program again, it will not start. This also affects other things (sometimes IE will not open a new window etc) - When I check the task list, there is a process for The Bat! still running (even though the program is not visible). Ending the task sends everything back to normal. Has anyone had a similar problem? Any suggestions? : I have the exact same problem on my W2K machine at home, I also am unable to add a new account or add any more contacts to the address book. I don't know why this is happening, and have not had a moment to try and fix it. I would also be very interested in solving these problems. -- bfn .kristina kfxdesign.net Using The Bat! 1.62i under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Change ISP TB email accounts, Lost Templates
Hello Allie, On Mon, 17 Feb 2003, at 00:14:54 GMT -0500 (2/16/2003, 11:14 PM -0500 GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: I hope you have a backup. I'd restore one installation to full working order and then do what I described above, i.e., export the registry settings and import it for the other installation. I created it from my backup HD. Things are working fine. I haven't gotten to the other installation yet, but when I do I'll use the export/import routine on the registry. Thanks! -- Best regards, Greg Strong TB! v1.63 Beta/6 on Windows XP Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
system sound when checking mails
Dear Bat User, being new to the Bat, please forgive me for the perhaps obvious newbie question. How can I deactivate the system sound when the Bat checks for mail. I did go through the options in the options menus as well as through the filter rules and folder options but can't find how to disable this 'dong'. Thanks a lot, Hartwig Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Default E-Mail Client Problem
Hello Marck! On Monday, February 17, 2003, 7:05 AM, you wrote: snip MB http://www.mail-archive.com/kiss@worldless.net/ M I think that's the wrong archive - it's the Indonesian list! You M want either the redirect URL: http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com or the M absolute address, which is M http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com Thanks, Marck! So much for my research skills!! I did think the domain looked unfamiliar, but I went there, and it appeared to be in English! However, I didn't do a search at that Indonesian archive. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: system sound when checking mails
Hello Hartwig! On Monday, February 17, 2003, 9:17 AM, you wrote: H How can I deactivate the system sound when the Bat checks for mail. Click on Account in the main The Bat! window. Then click on Properties. Look down the menu, third from the bottom in my version, and click on Sound. There is a box to check or uncheck for play sound when new mail arrives. I just went through these steps, to be sure I am telling them right. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: system sound when checking mails
On Monday, February 17, 2003, 3:17:43 PM, Hartwig Harder wrote: How can I deactivate the system sound when the Bat checks for mail. I did go through the options in the options menus as well as through the filter rules and folder options but can't find how to disable this 'dong'. I think you must mean the sound you get when there is a problem with the message check, rather than the sound you get when you have a new message? If you are referring to the error sound, I am not sure if there is a way to turn it off. One of the main causes is the mailserver timing out on a mailcheck, and at the moment, there is not a way to increase the timeout within The Bat. The sound is the default Windows error sound, so if you change it (or disable by going into Control Panel|Sounds and getting rid of the sound), it will affect all your programs, not just The Bat. To see what is causing the error sound, have a look in the Log (Account|View Log, or Crtl+Alt+L) for each of your accounts, looking for the red explanation marks which indicate an error. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBat and IMAP4
Hello Christian, On Monday, February 17, 2003, 11:29:36 AM, you wrote: CB I just started to evaluate The Bat! as my new mailclient. So probably I CB have very simple questions. If this is so, I'm sorry about it. CB While I read my mails from different places I like to use IMAP4 instead of CB POP. I can use both at the server. CB How can I create a new folder on the IMAP4 server from The Bat! How can I CB define filter to move mails on an other folder on the server? In the CB future I want to leave all my mails on the server and just manage them CB with The Bat!. Is this possible? I found no way. CB And while I'm just writing another question about filter. I like an action CB to open a message or a popup window at filtering. Is this possible? The Bat! hasnt fully implemented IMAP 4 Support as yet, there are some problems using the bat with folders and i have, as yet, not been able to Put folders on the IMAP server from The Bat! Please dont be put off though, as The Bat! team has said that they will Fully support IMAP 4 in their 2.x release. Although no timescales on that yet ;) -- Regards, Kevin Conlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.62i Windows XP (Build 2600) 5.1 All Mail Filtered with POPfile -- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Default E-Mail Client Problem
Hi Paul, Monday, February 17, 2003, 7:06:28 AM, you wrote: is there an export feature in Becky??? under TB Tools-Import feature you can see that TB has a variety of ways to import old mail messages.. I use TB with Windos XP Home and I have no problems. I got my wife to convert from Outlook 2K ! I use the 1.63 beta 5 because the beta 6 added too many REAL beta problems, and I want a stable environment for my wifes email program. I use Mozilla as my default client, but I also have Opera and IE installed, so I can pretty much test anything:) and I have not seen YOUR problem yet! Yes, Becky has an export feature. I had the day off work today, so I spent part of the morning going through old messages (that I kept in separate backup folders in Becky), and imported them in UNIX format into The Bat for each of my e-mail accounts. It was a bit time consuming...but not because of either The Bat or Becky...only because I've accumulated a lot of messages over the last few years. Exporting them from Becky and importing them into The Bat was a snap! I must say that The Bat is one of the most user-friendly programs I've ever worked with -- and I've worked with a lot of programs. :) Now all is in order. I submitted my registration for The Bat today and just got the registration info a few minutes ago. Thanks again for your help! -- Best regards, Kim Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Setting Up Mailing Lists - Problem
Hi all, I am now a registered user of The Bat. My registration just arrived in my e-mail a few minutes ago. :) I have a question about setting up mailing lists in The Bat. I currently belong to two mailing lists (this one and one other one), and although the settings for this one seem to be fine, the other one is not. I set up the lists similarly to how I did in Becky, creating a filter and having the messages for the list go into a designated folder. I receive messages fine for both mailing lists, however, when I click reply for a message on the other mailing list, the person's individual e-mail address appears in the TO section, rather than the mailing list's e-mail address. For TBUDL the TO section works correctly. Both accounts look exactly the same, except for one noted difference. When I go up to Specials, the menu item Mailing List is available for TBUDL, but it is grayed out for the other mailing list. I set these two folders up at the same time, and I cannot figure out what the problem is. I've gone through just about every setting I can find, but no luck. Any ideas? Thanks. -- Best regards, Kim Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Default E-Mail Client Problem
Hi DG, Monday, February 17, 2003, 7:51:47 AM, you wrote: Do you have The_Bat! set as the system default MAPI Request Handler? Using a beta version of The_Bat! has the preferences and options set up different than 1.62i but I know there is a toggle box to do so. If it is not the default MAPI handler make it so. If it is then I believe you also have the option to remove it as the handler. Either way, give it a look see and set it opposite of how it is currently set. IIRC I had this same problem on an XP machine where it was toggled on and all kinds of hell broke loose. Of course YMMV. I did as you suggested. Thanks. -- Best regards, Kim Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Setting Up Mailing Lists - Problem
Hallo Kim, On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 14:32:15 -0500GMT (17-2-03, 20:32 +0100, where I live), you wrote: K I receive messages fine for both mailing lists, however, when I K click reply for a message on the other mailing list, the person's K individual e-mail address appears in the TO section, rather than K the mailing list's e-mail address. In that case, the mailing list probably does not insert/overwrite the Reply-To header. There are several ways to handle this Select the To:-header in the grey header section above the message, use your right mouse button and select 'Reply to this address' Or create a folder reply template for your list folder. As you're probably aware, TB uses templates when it starts a message. Those templates can be address book based, folder based or account based. In this case you can create a folder reply template (select the folder, right mouse button, properties, reply template) In this template, you can use the macro: %To=''%To='%OFromName on listname listaddress'%- Where you need to substitute listname with the name of the list and listaddress with the address of the list. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Setting Up Mailing Lists - Problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, February 17, 2003, Kim wrote... I am now a registered user of The Bat. My registration just arrived in my e-mail a few minutes ago. :) Well worth the money in my opinion ;) I have a question about setting up mailing lists in The Bat. I currently belong to two mailing lists (this one and one other one), and although the settings for this one seem to be fine, the other one is not. I set up the lists similarly to how I did in Becky, creating a filter and having the messages for the list go into a designated folder. I receive messages fine for both mailing lists, however, when I click reply for a message on the other mailing list, the person's individual e-mail address appears in the TO section, rather than the mailing list's e-mail address. It could be that the second list doesn't use a reply-to header. When that line is missing in the headers, hitting reply goes back to the sender. It could also be possible that Becky is seeing list headers, and automatically replying to the list without option. TheBat doesn't do that, and follows what it is told to do. There are options to work around that, such as templates that will alter the addresses (I'm sure others will give better examples than I ever could). Another option is to hit the Reply to all button instead of just reply, and move the addresses around. When I go up to Specials, the menu item Mailing List is available for TBUDL, but it is grayed out for the other mailing list. TheBat seems to only respond to certain list headers. Certain list software puts, in the headers of each mail, details about the list, and special options, such as unsubscribe, help and such. I don't think TheBat has a handle on all the list software available, or even close to it. - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQA/AwUBPlE9ECuD6BT4/R9zEQJOfACgi4i5sz5K5v2SBar20pvMPTAb3zIAnjON IZ3oGgM7kXuvR0ctNLRVQE+6 =7II6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Setting Up Mailing Lists - Problem
On Monday, February 17, 2003, 2:32 PM, you wrote: K I have a question about setting up mailing lists in The Bat. I K currently belong to two mailing lists (this one and one other one), K and although the settings for this one seem to be fine, the other one K is not. is there a link at the bottom of that list message that has the REPLY-TO info in it? Other than looking for that, I think someone else mentioned reply-to-all.. -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Setting Up Mailing Lists - Problem
On Monday, February 17, 2003, 2:32 PM, you wrote: K I am now a registered user of The Bat. My registration just arrived in K my e-mail a few minutes ago. :) congrats!! there is a lot to learn to use many of the features, but you can obviously do well from the beginning !! This list has lots of people that can answer almost any question!! -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
problem ssl myrealbox.com
i've try somany times to fecth my account work on POP3S myrealbox.com (pop3.myrealbox.com:995), and it allways return the following report. could anyone help?? 18/02/2003, 03:15:59: FETCH - Certificate S/N: E1BF16B93022E15F196E7C9D3834AA7D, algorithm: RSA (508 bits), issued from 28 Nop 2002 to 28 Nop 2003, for 1 host(s): *.myrealbox.com. 18/02/2003, 03:15:59: FETCH - Owner: US, 84660, Utah, Provo, 1800 South Novell Place, Novell, Inc, Cross Platform Networking Services, Provided by BitEngines, QualitySSL Wildcard, *.myrealbox.com. 18/02/2003, 03:15:59: FETCH - Issuer: GB, Comodo Limited, Comodo Trust Network, Terms and Conditions of use: http://www.comodo.net/repository, (c)2002 Comodo Limited, Comodo Class 3 Security Services CA. 18/02/2003, 03:15:59: FETCH - The server host name (pop3.myrealbox.com) does not match the certificate. Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Setting Up Mailing Lists - Problem
Hi Roelof, Monday, February 17, 2003, 2:52:08 PM, you wrote: In that case, the mailing list probably does not insert/overwrite the Reply-To header. There are several ways to handle this Select the To:-header in the grey header section above the message, use your right mouse button and select 'Reply to this address' Or create a folder reply template for your list folder. As you're probably aware, TB uses templates when it starts a message. Those templates can be address book based, folder based or account based. In this case you can create a folder reply template (select the folder, right mouse button, properties, reply template) In this template, you can use the macro: %To=''%To='%OFromName on listname listaddress'%- Where you need to substitute listname with the name of the list and listaddress with the address of the list. I tried your last suggestion (with the macro) and it worked like a charm! Thanks so much!!! Incidently, I took a look at the headers of the other mailing list, and compared them to this one. You were right...the Reply-To header listed the individual, not the mailing list on the other list. That's why the mailing list address didn't come up when I hit Reply. You were exactly right. :) -- Best regards, Kim Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Setting Up Mailing Lists - Problem
Hi Paul, Monday, February 17, 2003, 3:00:19 PM, you wrote: is there a link at the bottom of that list message that has the REPLY-TO info in it? Other than looking for that, I think someone else mentioned reply-to-all.. Yep...the Reply-To within the mailing list itself was the problem. The Reply-To still lists the individual, and not address of the list itself, which is why the Reply-To wasn't correct. I amended my Reply-To folder template for the mailing list, as Roelof suggested. It worked like a charm. :) -- Best regards, Kim Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: problem ssl myrealbox.com
WP i've try somany times to fecth my account work on POP3S myrealbox.com (pop3.myrealbox.com:995), and it allways return the following report. could anyone help?? a few days ago they were having problems with one of their incoming smtp servers. Maybe they have problems now with the pop3s, check their home page, they announce this kind of things in a text box on the bottom of the page. (the pop3 servers are working fine, but you probably know that already) -- Ricardo M. Reyes | (Mar del Plata - Argentina) | Usando The Bat! 1.60c There are 10 different kinds of people in this world -- those who understand binary and those who don't. Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Setting Up Mailing Lists - Problem
Hello Kim! On Monday, February 17, 2003, 2:26 PM, you wrote: R Or create a folder reply template for your list folder. K I tried your last suggestion (with the macro) and it worked like a K charm! Thanks so much!!! Kim, just a word of caution with folder macros. It's easy to accidentally send to a list something you meant to send privately, using these. This is also true of another feature of The Bat!: auto-complete, which completes the address for you if you type the first few letters in manually. I'm sure this would never happen to you, but I used to have a bad habit of not checking what was in my To: field before sending the message. Got caught with auto-complete one time! :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: problem ssl myrealbox.com
Tuesday, February 18, 2003, 3:48:25 AM, you wrote: (the pop3 servers are working fine, but you probably know that already) i'm ask about POP3S (SSL) not _plain_ POP3, and yes for plain POP3 it work just fine. but i don't trust my local network. Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Setting Up Mailing Lists - Problem
Hallo Kim, On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 15:26:23 -0500GMT (17-2-03, 21:26 +0100, where I live), you wrote: In this template, you can use the macro: %To=''%To='%OFromName on listname listaddress'%- K I tried your last suggestion (with the macro) and it worked like a K charm! Thanks so much!!! I thought it might. Now that I've mentioned folder templates with a %to-macro, it's my responsibility to warn you to be careful with them. In a reply-template they're rather harmless, since you're aware in what folder you are. In a new message template the %To macro would come in very handy too, after all you'd never have to look for the list-address. This is very dangerous. Suppose you're clicking on a mailto: link on a website while you're still in the list folder in TB. This means that you'll use the folder template for the mailto: link. The effect of a message sent to a list, while you thought it would be private, might be merely embarrassing or disastrous, depending on the subject you're discussing. I can imagine you're saying that this would never happen to you, but I've seen it happening enough. It's not 'if', but 'when'. I'm not discouraging you from using %To in a reply template (after all I wouldn't suggest something unsafe), but only for new message templates -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Setting Up Mailing Lists - Problem
Hi Jonathan, Monday, February 17, 2003, 2:50:36 PM, you wrote: Well worth the money in my opinion ;) I tend to agree with you there. It could be that the second list doesn't use a reply-to header. When that line is missing in the headers, hitting reply goes back to the sender. It could also be possible that Becky is seeing list headers, and automatically replying to the list without option. TheBat doesn't do that, and follows what it is told to do. There are options to work around that, such as templates that will alter the addresses (I'm sure others will give better examples than I ever could). Another option is to hit the Reply to all button instead of just reply, and move the addresses around. That was exactly it. The other list indeed does not use a Reply-To header. TheBat seems to only respond to certain list headers. Certain list software puts, in the headers of each mail, details about the list, and special options, such as unsubscribe, help and such. I don't think TheBat has a handle on all the list software available, or even close to it. The other list is a LISTSERV list. I know they're a pretty common mailing list outfit, so I was surprised to find out that this particular one doesn't use the list's address in their Reply-To's. Maybe I should suggest to them that they do that, and make it easier on the rest of us. :) Thanks for your help! -- Best regards, Kim Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Setting Up Mailing Lists - Problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, February 17, 2003, Kim wrote... It could be that the second list doesn't use a reply-to header. That was exactly it. The other list indeed does not use a Reply-To header. TheBat seems to only respond to certain list headers. Certain list software puts, in the headers of each mail, details about the list, and special options, such as unsubscribe, help and such. I don't think TheBat has a handle on all the list software available, or even close to it. The other list is a LISTSERV list. I know they're a pretty common mailing list outfit, so I was surprised to find out that this particular one doesn't use the list's address in their Reply-To's. Maybe I should suggest to them that they do that, and make it easier on the rest of us. :) It might be that the list administrators/moderators have decided that the don't want the reply-to being set. Most list management software allows for changes of that field to make the list work in ways they want. It might be worth posting on the wishlist to see if you can get LISTSERV's headers added to the specials - mailing list feature. Off the top of my head I cannot remember the address for it, I'm sure it is mentioned in the list information (see the URL at the bottom of this email). To be even more helpful, you could include a sample of the headers from LISTSERV for the RitLab developers to they know what they're looking for. - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQA/AwUBPlFcmCuD6BT4/R9zEQKRVQCgiJJ8AN3zQ33h3W2lFjX+N9g/xjwAnRXK S5H868d2l3lkm4LMTSfUUQxJ =2Zr3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Address Book Question
Hi all, I've been having a lot of fun learning The Bat...and now I have another question. It's regarding The Bat's address book. It deals with the entries of first name, nickname, and display name. I have the new message template set up to start with the greeting of Hi %TOFName, (minus the quotation marks). When writing to a friend of mine, the name isn't appearing as it should in the template (or as I *think* it should). I have her real name listed in first name and nickname, and her online nickname in display name. When I start a letter to her, the display name is the only one that appears as the greeting of the letter. With %TOFName, shouldn't the name I have in as her first name in the address book be the one that appears, and not the display name? If not, what should I do to get her real name to appear as the greeting, short of setting the display name as her real name? Also, I have the greeting with %TOFName in the reply as well, but the first half of her address appears in the greeting (the part before the @). What am I doing wrong? Thanks. :) -- Best regards, Kim Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address Book Question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Kim, @17-Feb-2003, 21:47 -0500 (02:47 UK time) Kim [K] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: K ... When I start a letter to her, the display name is the only K one that appears as the greeting of the letter. With %TOFName, K shouldn't the name I have in as her first name in the address K book be the one that appears, and not the display name? If not, K what should I do to get her real name to appear as the greeting, K short of setting the display name as her real name? The %ToFname relates to the First Name in the To header of the message in question (the current message or reply). You need to look at some of the other macros - specifically the Address book macros. The %ABTO macro, followed by one of: Namethe full name FirstName the first name LastNamethe last name MiddleName the middle name Handle the handle .. will help a lot. These can be defaulted to make a more generic template entry by doing something like this: %ABToFirstName='%TOFname' This says get the first name from the address book but use the first name from the To field if none is available. K Also, I have the greeting with %TOFName in the reply as well, but K the first half of her address appears in the greeting (the part K before the @). What am I doing wrong? Same answer. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/6 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1rc1-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE+UaBsOeQkq5KdzaARAtOJAKCCOXxMkd/kZZ5ujQT1CNVJDY1kLgCbBcE+ BlONBRytbdMTTeet1BxhKKI= =ZVfm -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Error Message: Error!!!! The parameter is incorrect
Hi all, I came across an error message in The Bat the other day, which I *thought* had disappeared for good. However, it came back this evening when I tried to change a setting. The error occurs when I go to Options - Preferences - Viewer, and try to change one of the settings there. It doesn't *always* occur...it seems to happen in spurts. It will happen several times in a row (when I try to change the settings), and then it will stop for awhile. The latest occurrence was when I tried to change the appearance of the color of the signature in the viewer (I changed it from light gray to dark gray). This has also happened while trying to change fonts and font sizes. The error appears in a pop-up box and says Error The parameter is incorrect. I have the choice of clicking OK or Cancel. The setting still changes and appears to work ok, but I often get the error message again when trying to change the setting on that tab. Has anyone else seen this problem before? BTW, I'm running Windows XP Home and The Bat 1.62i Personal Edition. Thanks for your help! -- Best regards, Kim Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Address Book Question
Hi Marck, Monday, February 17, 2003, 9:54:35 PM, you wrote: The %ToFname relates to the First Name in the To header of the message in question (the current message or reply). You need to look at some of the other macros - specifically the Address book macros. The %ABTO macro, followed by one of: Namethe full name FirstName the first name LastNamethe last name MiddleName the middle name Handle the handle .. will help a lot. These can be defaulted to make a more generic template entry by doing something like this: %ABToFirstName='%TOFname' This says get the first name from the address book but use the first name from the To field if none is available. Thanks! That worked great! -- Best regards, Kim Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
