Re: Moving messages from a local database of an expired IMAP account to folders in a different account

[Luca via TBUDL]

Luca via TBUDL:

> Stefan Tanurkov via TBUDL:
> 
> > Hello Luca,
> > 
> > Wednesday, June 8, 2022, 7:53:06 PM, you wrote:
> > 
> > > I have an expired IMAP account with lots of messages in the local 
> > > database. It
> > > seems that I cannot move or copy any message to a folder in a different
> > > account. The command "Message/Copy to folder..." doesn't work.
> > 
> > Yeah, if connection with the server cannot be established, you need to 
> > operate manually 
> > it is possible copy .TBB and .TBN files of an IMAP folder 
> > as Message.TBB 
> > and Messages.TBN of a local folder - they have the same format. 
> 
> I tried something like that, but database files in my IMAP account have
> extensions .EBB and .EBN. How should I handle them?

I got it! E stands for Encrypted, right? My error was that I didn't rename
them as Messages.EBB/EBN.

It works. Messages with no body still have some header fields visible in the
header list, good. 

Maybe Message/View source (F9) should work for no body messages too? It
doesn't, at the moment. 

Is there a reason why Message/Copy to folder... doesn't work even when body is
available?

What I really miss since ever is drag and drop of whole folders between
different accounts. Migrating a folder tree to a different account with TB has
always been a pain in the ass.

Thank you.

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Re: Moving messages from a local database of an expired IMAP account to folders in a different account

[Luca via TBUDL]

Stefan Tanurkov via TBUDL:

> Hello Luca,
> 
> Wednesday, June 8, 2022, 7:53:06 PM, you wrote:
> 
> > I have an expired IMAP account with lots of messages in the local database. 
> > It
> > seems that I cannot move or copy any message to a folder in a different
> > account. The command "Message/Copy to folder..." doesn't work.
> 
> Yeah, if connection with the server cannot be established, you need to 
> operate manually 
> it is possible copy .TBB and .TBN files of an IMAP folder as 
> Message.TBB 
> and Messages.TBN of a local folder - they have the same format. 

I tried something like that, but database files in my IMAP account have
extensions .EBB and .EBN. How should I handle them?

Tnx.

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Re: Moving messages from a local database of an expired IMAP account to folders in a different account

[Stefan Tanurkov via TBUDL]

Hello Luca,

Wednesday, June 8, 2022, 7:53:06 PM, you wrote:

> I have an expired IMAP account with lots of messages in the local database. It
> seems that I cannot move or copy any message to a folder in a different
> account. The command "Message/Copy to folder..." doesn't work.

Yeah, if connection with the server cannot be established, you need to operate 
manually - it is possible copy .TBB and yyyy.TBN files of an IMAP 
folder as Message.TBB and Messages.TBN of a local folder - they have the same 
format. The only problem that could occur is absence of downloaded message body 
or attachments... 



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Moving messages from a local database of an expired IMAP account to folders in a different account

[Luca via TBUDL]

I have an expired IMAP account with lots of messages in the local database. It
seems that I cannot move or copy any message to a folder in a different
account. The command "Message/Copy to folder..." doesn't work.

I can export/import messages via unix mailboxes actually, but is there a
quicker way? 

I would like to use the database files directly with a different account, but
I don't know if that's possible.

Tnx.

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The Bat! 9.3.4 and imap

[Henk M. de Bruijn]

Hallo ,

I started using this version of the Bat! a couple of days ago with 2 
imap accounts. I must say the Bat! is working not only smooth but 
flawlessly. I have not had any problems or errors at all!


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How to delete a message in TheBat! while I am in IMAP mode of Gmail

[Mica Mijatovic]

Hello TBUDL,

I'm not very apt in working with IMAP, but this what I understand is
that if I chose to delete a message shown in The Bat, it should be
deleted from Gmail server too - if I have configured it so (which I
did).

Now, what I find interesting, and guess might be important, is when
TB! downloads messages from Gmail, it for each filter I have created
in Gmail, makes separate folder, with the name of the given filter,
and in this folder I can see the messages filtered by this rule.

Those messages I can see both in TB's Inbox, and in the given
mentioned folder. For instance, the messages from TBUDL folder I can
see both inside this folder and inside Inbox.

Then, if I delete some message in TBUDL folder, I notice that it is not
deleted from the Inbox! And vice versa. While, if I change status of a
message in Inbox, eg. to "Read", I see it is changed in "TBUDL" folder
too. Same is with using flags etc.

Then again, if I delete, in TB!, a message that has no a rule assigned
to, it happens with the copy of the message on Gmail www interface
too. And vice versa, which I recon is as it should be. The thing acts
normal, or as expected to. -- The question is: Why is this not the
case with the rest of the messages which are filtered out into those
mentioned folders? ★ More precisely: How could I make that if I delete
such a message from Inbox, it is deleted from related folder too, and
vice versa, and me not being caught in the silly gamboling right and
left from folder to folder and deleting one and the same messages
twice?

Thanks much (for stopping the show)!

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Re: IMAP folders don't match account

[Acheton]

Hi Sam,

Monday, December 7, 2020, 4:12:18 AM, you wrote:
> Looking at the image you attached, what are you expecting to see in TB! from 
> the Gmail side? I've never tried using IMAP with Gmail, but I don't think 
> think "Starred" and "Snoozed" are folders, they're just Gmail filters. I'm 
> not sure if those specifically will show up in TB!.

Well all I can tell you is that I have several other IMAP connections to Gmail 
which work fine and the Starred and Snoozed labels appear find in the Manage 
IMAP folders dialog in TB. See attached.

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Re: IMAP folders don't match account

[Sam Brown]

Sunday, December 6, 2020, 3:51:23 AM, Acheton wrote:

A> Hi Sam,

A> Sunday, December 6, 2020, 8:39:00 AM, you wrote:
>> Saturday, December 5, 2020, 4:41:32 PM, acheton2020 wrote:

a>>> Thanks for the reply, I have checked the Gmail settings and all of the 
folders are set to appear in IMAP but do not do so in TB.  If I view the list 
of IMAP folder in another mail client (like Postbox), I can see the full list 
of folders.  This makes me think that it is a TB config issue or bug.  Is there 
anything else i can try?

>> Just to be clear we're talking about the same thing, this is not a setting 
>> in Gmail, this is in TB!. Go to the Account menu -> IMAP Commands -> Manage 
>> IMAP Folders. In that dialog, you need to subscribe to the remote folders 
>> you want to see in TB!.

A> Thanks, I do understand this, but bear in mind that there is a setting on 
the gmail side which controls which folders / labels appear via IMAP (see 
attached).

Looking at the image you attached, what are you expecting to see in TB! from 
the Gmail side? I've never tried using IMAP with Gmail, but I don't think think 
"Starred" and "Snoozed" are folders, they're just Gmail filters. I'm not sure 
if those specifically will show up in TB!.


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Re: IMAP folders don't match account

[Acheton]

Hi MAU,

Sunday, December 6, 2020, 9:22:43 AM, you wrote:
> Hello Acheton,

>>> Just  to be clear we're talking about the same thing, this is not a
>>> setting  in  Gmail,  this is in TB!. Go to the Account menu -> IMAP
>>> Commands  ->  Manage  IMAP  Folders.  In  that  dialog, you need to
>>> subscribe to the remote folders you want to see in TB!.

>> Thanks,  I  do  understand  this,  but  bear in mind that there is a
>> setting  on  the  gmail  side  which controls which folders / labels
>> appear via IMAP (see attached).

> I  am  not  an IMAP user, but my guess is that you may need to do both
> things. First on Gmail side and then in TB. As I say, just a guess.


Yes I've done both, the problem is that the folder list on the TB side is only 
two folders!

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Re: IMAP folders don't match account

[MAU]

Hello Acheton,

>> Just  to be clear we're talking about the same thing, this is not a
>> setting  in  Gmail,  this is in TB!. Go to the Account menu -> IMAP
>> Commands  ->  Manage  IMAP  Folders.  In  that  dialog, you need to
>> subscribe to the remote folders you want to see in TB!.
>
> Thanks,  I  do  understand  this,  but  bear in mind that there is a
> setting  on  the  gmail  side  which controls which folders / labels
> appear via IMAP (see attached).

I  am  not  an IMAP user, but my guess is that you may need to do both
things. First on Gmail side and then in TB. As I say, just a guess.

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Re: IMAP folders don't match account

[Acheton]

Hi Susanne,

Saturday, December 5, 2020, 10:08:24 PM, you wrote:

Hello,

Saturday, December 5, 2020, 1:41:32 PM, acheton2020 wrote:


Is there anything else i can try?

Not that I can think of, but hopefully some more experienced members will come 
up with something!
You've clicked on the "down arrow" in front of Gmail, und Imap folder options, 
to see if it shows more folders?

Yes it shows just one more folder


And under "subscribed only"?

Shows nothing.


And checked the download settings there?

Yes.

I've also tried refreshing the list too and still get just two folders.

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Re: IMAP folders don't match account

[Acheton]

Hi Sam,

Sunday, December 6, 2020, 8:39:00 AM, you wrote:
> Saturday, December 5, 2020, 4:41:32 PM, acheton2020 wrote:

a>> Thanks for the reply, I have checked the Gmail settings and all of the 
folders are set to appear in IMAP but do not do so in TB.  If I view the list 
of IMAP folder in another mail client (like Postbox), I can see the full list 
of folders.  This makes me think that it is a TB config issue or bug.  Is there 
anything else i can try?

> Just to be clear we're talking about the same thing, this is not a setting in 
> Gmail, this is in TB!. Go to the Account menu -> IMAP Commands -> Manage IMAP 
> Folders. In that dialog, you need to subscribe to the remote folders you want 
> to see in TB!.

Thanks, I do understand this, but bear in mind that there is a setting on the 
gmail side which controls which folders / labels appear via IMAP (see attached).

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Re: IMAP folders don't match account

[Sam Brown]

Saturday, December 5, 2020, 4:41:32 PM, acheton2020 wrote:

a> Thanks for the reply, I have checked the Gmail settings and all of the 
folders are set to appear in IMAP but do not do so in TB.  If I view the list 
of IMAP folder in another mail client (like Postbox), I can see the full list 
of folders.  This makes me think that it is a TB config issue or bug.  Is there 
anything else i can try?

Just to be clear we're talking about the same thing, this is not a setting in 
Gmail, this is in TB!. Go to the Account menu -> IMAP Commands -> Manage IMAP 
Folders. In that dialog, you need to subscribe to the remote folders you want 
to see in TB!.

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Re: IMAP folders don't match account

[Susanne]

Hello,

Saturday, December 5, 2020, 1:41:32 PM, acheton2020 wrote:


Is there anything else i can try?

Not that I can think of, but hopefully some more experienced members will come 
up with something!
You've clicked on the "down arrow" in front of Gmail, und Imap folder options, 
to see if it shows more folders?
And under "subscribed only"?
And checked the download settings there?
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Re: IMAP folders don't match account

[acheton2020]

Title: Re: IMAP folders don't match account


Hello Susanne,

Thanks for the reply, I have checked the Gmail settings and all of the folders are set to appear in IMAP but do not do so in TB.  If I view the list of IMAP folder in another mail client (like Postbox), I can see the full list of folders.  This makes me think that it is a TB config issue or bug.  Is there anything else i can try?

thanks

ach

Saturday, December 5, 2020, 9:12:55 PM, you wrote:





Hello,

Saturday, December 5, 2020, 1:00:07 PM, acheton2020 wrote:

> Hi there

> I have recently started to have a problem using TB.  I have a list of about ~20 folders in my gmail account.  However when I go to IMAP folders to view the list of folders to change the settings only two are shown.  How can I make all the folder appear?  I have tried deleting and re-creating the account several time but this doesn't.  Can anyone help?

I apologize! Didn't notice the attachments. Maybe a setting in gmail? I'm using Gmail with TB and see all my folders listed under "Manage Imap folders".


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Re: IMAP folders don't match account

[Susanne]

Hello,

Saturday, December 5, 2020, 1:00:07 PM, acheton2020 wrote:

> Hi there

> I have recently started to have a problem using TB.  I have a list of about 
> ~20 folders in my gmail account.  However when I go to IMAP folders to view 
> the list of folders to change the settings only two are shown.  How can I 
> make all the folder appear?  I have tried deleting and re-creating the 
> account several time but this doesn't.  Can anyone help?

I apologize! Didn't notice the attachments. Maybe a setting in gmail? I'm using 
Gmail with TB and see all my folders listed under "Manage Imap folders".


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Re: IMAP folders don't match account

[Susanne]

Hello,

Saturday, December 5, 2020, 1:00:07 PM, acheton2020 wrote:

> How can I make all the folder appear?

Have you looked at Account > Imap commands> Manage Imao folders?
You can select which ones to show there.

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IMAP folders don't match account

[acheton2020]

Hi there

I have recently started to have a problem using TB.  I have a list of about ~20 
folders in my gmail account.  However when I go to IMAP folders to view the 
list of folders to change the settings only two are shown.  How can I make all 
the folder appear?  I have tried deleting and re-creating the account several 
time but this doesn't.  Can anyone help?

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Re: Change account from POP3 to IMAP

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Andrew,

On Wed, 23 Sep 2020 09:23:47 +0930 GMT (23-Sep-20, 6:53 +0700 GMT),
Andrew Savchenko wrote:

> Seeing that lately TB! gets stuck on receiving mail more often than it
> actually manages to complete the transaction, I have decided to try it via
> IMAP.

> Surprisingly, I can't quite figure out how to do it... Any hints?

> In account properties, under the "Transport" tab I can change the server name,
> port and auth. scheme, but how to switch from POP3 to IMAP?

You cannot switch an account. You have to create a new account, and create it 
as an IMAP account.

I did this for testing earlier, and you can actually have two accounts in TB! 
for the same email account at the same time: One being POP and the other being 
IMAP.

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Change account from POP3 to IMAP

[Andrew Savchenko]

Hello,

Seeing that lately TB! gets stuck on receiving mail more often than it 
actually manages to complete the transaction, I have decided to try it via 
IMAP.

Surprisingly, I can't quite figure out how to do it... Any hints?

In account properties, under the "Transport" tab I can change the server name, 
port and auth. scheme, but how to switch from POP3 to IMAP?



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Re: Eek! Did I really lose--forever--all emails in my IMAP Inbox?

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello MFPA,

On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 00:24:38 +0100 GMT (23-Apr-20, 6:24 +0700 GMT),
MFPA wrote:

>> I could, but that's not how I work. I BCC all messages to myself.
>> Different folks, different strokes.

> Do you not feel the need to keep a local messagebase of the incoming
> messages to IMAP accounts?

My reply above is about outgoing messages.

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Re: Eek! Did I really lose--forever--all emails in my IMAP Inbox?

[MFPA]

Hi


On Tuesday 21 April 2020 at 8:10:05 PM, in
, Melissa Reese wrote:-


> Could you please let me know where to
> set this up in
> the options? Thanks!

I was thinking of filters in the Sorting Office when I wrote that
suggestion. Something like condition: any message; action: copy to a
folder.

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Re: Eek! Did I really lose--forever--all emails in my IMAP Inbox?

[MFPA]

Hi


On Wednesday 22 April 2020 at 6:19:21 AM, in
, Thomas Fernandez wrote:-


> I could, but that's not how I work. I BCC all
> messages to myself.
> Different folks, different strokes.

Do you not feel the need to keep a local messagebase of the incoming
messages to IMAP accounts?

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Re[2]: Eek! Did I really lose--forever--all emails in my IMAP Inbox?

[Paul Van Noord]

4/22/2020  8:32 AM

Hi Thomas,

On 4/22/2020 Thomas Fernandez wrote:

TF> Quote: "The Bat! MSI installation package no longer include EWS DLL
TF> files. As a result, The Bat! would not support Exchange Web Services
TF> (EWS) protocol until you manually download a DLL and store it un the
TF> same directory where thebat32.exe/thebat64.exe resides.

TF> UNQUOTE

TF> I see you are talking about MAPI, not EWS.

>> Couldn't you have "best of both" by using IMAP but having TB! copy all
>> messages to a local archive folder? That way, you could have the local
>> message store but still access all of your email from multiple devices
>> using a proper mail client. Or am I missing something?

TF> I could, but that's not how I work. I BCC all messages to myself.
TF> Different folks, different strokes.

Me too, from all IMAP devices...

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Re: Eek! Did I really lose--forever--all emails in my IMAP Inbox?

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello MFPA,

On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 19:11:32 +0100 GMT (22-Apr-20, 1:11 +0700 GMT),
MFPA wrote:

>> Besides, Exchange uses a proprietary protocol, and TheBat has no
>> native support for it (any more).

> Has support been removed recently? My "Create New Account" wizard in
> TB! v8.8.2.5 still has the option of "MAPI(Microsoft Exchange)", the
> other two options being "Auto" and "IMAP or POP".

From bug report https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=1427 :

QUOTE

This is not a bug. We removed the DLLs for EWS intentionally. Please
refer to the release notes of The Bat! v8.0 at
https://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/revision-history/7026/

Quote: "The Bat! MSI installation package no longer include EWS DLL
files. As a result, The Bat! would not support Exchange Web Services
(EWS) protocol until you manually download a DLL and store it un the
same directory where thebat32.exe/thebat64.exe resides.

UNQUOTE

I see you are talking about MAPI, not EWS.

>> I'm back to POP only. However, there are some people on this list
>> who prefer IMAP.

> Couldn't you have "best of both" by using IMAP but having TB! copy all
> messages to a local archive folder? That way, you could have the local
> message store but still access all of your email from multiple devices
> using a proper mail client. Or am I missing something?

I could, but that's not how I work. I BCC all messages to myself.
Different folks, different strokes.

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Re: Eek! Did I really lose--forever--all emails in my IMAP Inbox?

[MAU]

Hello MFPA,

>> Besides, Exchange uses a proprietary protocol, and
>> TheBat has no native
>> support for it (any more).
>
> Has support been removed recently? My "Create New Account" wizard in
> TB! v8.8.2.5 still has the option of "MAPI(Microsoft Exchange)", the
> other two options being "Auto" and "IMAP or POP".

The option is still available in 9.1.16.3 (BETA).

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Re: Eek! Did I really lose--forever--all emails in my IMAP Inbox?

[Melissa Reese]

Hello MFPA,

Tuesday, April 21, 2020, 10:11:32 AM, you wrote:

> Couldn't you have "best of both" by using IMAP but having TB! copy all
> messages to a local archive folder?

This sounds like just what I'd like to do. Can't seem to find the
option, though. Could you please let me know where to set this up in
the options? Thanks!

Haven't yet set up all my templates in this new installation, so it's
not showing my TB version at the moment. I'm using v9.1.16.

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Re[2]: Eek! Did I really lose--forever--all emails in my IMAP Inbox?

[Paul Van Noord]

4/21/2020  2:18 PM

Hi MFPA,

On 4/21/2020 MFPA wrote:

M> On Tuesday 21 April 2020 at 1:13:38 AM, in
M> , Thomas Fernandez wrote:-

>> Besides, Exchange uses a proprietary protocol, and
>> TheBat has no native
>> support for it (any more).

M> Has support been removed recently? My "Create New Account" wizard in
M> TB! v8.8.2.5 still has the option of "MAPI(Microsoft Exchange)", the
M> other two options being "Auto" and "IMAP or POP".

>> I'm back to POP only. However, there are
>> some people on
>> this list who prefer IMAP.

M> Couldn't you have "best of both" by using IMAP but having TB! copy all
M> messages to a local archive folder? That way, you could have the local
M> message store but still access all of your email from multiple devices
M> using a proper mail client. Or am I missing something?

This  system  works real well. My main computer is POP and all my mobile
devices are IMAP. Have used this strategy for more than a decade...

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Re: Eek! Did I really lose--forever--all emails in my IMAP Inbox?

[MFPA]

Hi


On Tuesday 21 April 2020 at 1:13:38 AM, in
, Thomas Fernandez wrote:-


> Besides, Exchange uses a proprietary protocol, and
> TheBat has no native
> support for it (any more).

Has support been removed recently? My "Create New Account" wizard in
TB! v8.8.2.5 still has the option of "MAPI(Microsoft Exchange)", the
other two options being "Auto" and "IMAP or POP".

> I'm back to POP only. However, there are
> some people on
> this list who prefer IMAP.

Couldn't you have "best of both" by using IMAP but having TB! copy all
messages to a local archive folder? That way, you could have the local
message store but still access all of your email from multiple devices
using a proper mail client. Or am I missing something?


> --

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Re: Eek! Did I really lose--forever--all emails in my IMAP Inbox?

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Melissa,

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 10:54:22 -0800 GMT (21-Apr-20, 1:54 +0700 GMT),
Melissa Reese wrote:

>>> I really don't know what happened, but all of a sudden, the main
>>> inbox of my one IMAP account (my main email account!) is EMPTY!

>> I don't know much about IMAP accounts, never used one but, wasn't
>> that the idea of IMAP, to keep all email at the server?

> That's what I thought.  I called my email server provider late last
> night, and they were able to provide at least a partial solution for
> the moment (restored email in that folder going back as far as 7
> March, 2020 -- though I've been using this IMAP installation since
> August, 2019).  I'm still waiting to hear about what happened to the
> rest.

> Next week, they'll be migrating me to what they say will be a better
> version of IMAP-like protocol -- "Exchange"?  I guess I'll see what
> happens moving forward.

Between IMAP, POP and Exchange, Exchange is the worst. My university
uses it, and I fought with it for a while, but was happy when I found
out that the Microsoft Exchange server now also supports IMAP and POP.
Besides, Exchange uses a proprietary protocol, and TheBat has no native
support for it (any more).

>> Is it an gmail account? Have you tried logging in from a browser and
>> see?

> Not gmail. Nor is it the account through which I'm sending this
> message. It's on my own domain. It's a service I've had through
> GoDaddy for many years now (POP3 until last August, when I decided to
> give IMAP a try).

Yes, I also tried IMAP with one account for a while, just to get a
feel for it. I'm back to POP only. However, there are some people on
this list who prefer IMAP.

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Re: Eek! Did I really lose--forever--all emails in my IMAP Inbox?

[Melissa Reese]

Hi Miguel,

On Monday, April 20, 2020, at 1:49:08 AM PST, you wrote:

>> I really don't know what happened, but all of a sudden, the main
>> inbox of my one IMAP account (my main email account!) is EMPTY!

> I don't know much about IMAP accounts, never used one but, wasn't
> that the idea of IMAP, to keep all email at the server?

That's what I thought.  I called my email server provider late last
night, and they were able to provide at least a partial solution for
the moment (restored email in that folder going back as far as 7
March, 2020 -- though I've been using this IMAP installation since
August, 2019).  I'm still waiting to hear about what happened to the
rest.

Next week, they'll be migrating me to what they say will be a better
version of IMAP-like protocol -- "Exchange"?  I guess I'll see what
happens moving forward.

> Is it an gmail account? Have you tried logging in from a browser and
> see?

Not gmail. Nor is it the account through which I'm sending this
message. It's on my own domain. It's a service I've had through
GoDaddy for many years now (POP3 until last August, when I decided to
give IMAP a try).

In any event, I'm happy to have the most recent emails restored, and
will see what happens in trying to recover the rest.  Thanks for your
reply!

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Re: Eek! Did I really lose--forever--all emails in my IMAP Inbox?

[MAU]

Hello Melissa,

> I really don't know what happened, but all of a sudden, the main inbox
> of my one IMAP account (my main email account!) is EMPTY!

I don't know much about IMAP accounts, never used one but, wasn't that
the   idea   of  IMAP, to keep all email at the server? Is it an gmail
account? Have you tried logging in from a browser and see?
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Eek! Did I really lose--forever--all emails in my IMAP Inbox?

[Melissa Reese]

Hi,

I really don't know what happened, but all of a sudden, the main inbox
of my one IMAP account (my main email account!) is EMPTY!

Is there any way to recover all those emails?

Whenever I try restoring from a backup made yesterday only results in
the maintenance center going into "not responding" mode (this was
happening before all this as well -- I've not yet been able to restore
at all).

Please, please tell me there's a way to recover all these lost email
messages!

Thanks!

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Re: Gmail/Imap delete Trash?

[MAU]

Hello Susanne,

> I've got is set up now, by using the correct trash folder in TB and
> changing a setting on the gmail website.
>
> When a message is marked as deleted and expunged from the last visible IMAP 
> folder:
> Immediately delete the message forever

Great! :-)

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Re: Gmail/Imap delete Trash?

[Susanne]

Thanks for checking!

I've got is set up now, by using the correct trash folder in TB and changing a 
setting on the gmail website.

When a message is marked as deleted and expunged from the last visible IMAP 
folder: 
Immediately delete the message forever


Friday, February 21, 2020, 12:12:51 AM, MAU wrote:

> Hello Susanne,

>> I don't have anything about "Message Management" under Mail Management.

>> Just "Deletion" and "IMAP fine tune", and neither one has anything
>> about deleting mail from server when it is
>> removed from trash.

> Ooops!  Sorry, forgot you were talking about Imap accounts and I don't
> have any. Mine are all POP.




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Re: Gmail/Imap delete Trash?

[MAU]

Hello Susanne,

> I don't have anything about "Message Management" under Mail Management.
>
> Just "Deletion" and "IMAP fine tune", and neither one has anything
> about deleting mail from server when it is
> removed from trash.

Ooops!  Sorry, forgot you were talking about Imap accounts and I don't
have any. Mine are all POP.

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Re: Gmail/Imap delete Trash?

[Susanne]

Hello,

I don't have anything about "Message Management" under Mail Management.

Just "Deletion" and "IMAP fine tune", and neither one has anything about 
deleting mail from server when it is
removed from trash.


Thursday, February 20, 2020, 12:46:29 PM, MAU wrote:

> Hello Susanne,

>>   I am trying to set up TB to delete trash on Gmail, when I empty the TB 
>> trash folder.
>>   From reading online, there is supposed to be a setting somewhere 
>>   (Delete mail from server when it is removed from Trash), but I can't find 
>> it anywhere.
>>   
>>   Thanks for any help!

> Account Properties -> Mail Management -> Message Management 




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Re: Gmail/Imap delete Trash?

[MAU]

Hello Susanne,

>   I am trying to set up TB to delete trash on Gmail, when I empty the TB 
> trash folder.
>   From reading online, there is supposed to be a setting somewhere 
>   (Delete mail from server when it is removed from Trash), but I can't find 
> it anywhere.
>   
>   Thanks for any help!

Account Properties -> Mail Management -> Message Management 

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Gmail/Imap delete Trash?

[Susanne]

Hello,

  I am trying to set up TB to delete trash on Gmail, when I empty the TB trash 
folder.
  From reading online, there is supposed to be a setting somewhere 
  (Delete mail from server when it is removed from Trash), but I can't find it 
anywhere.
  
  Thanks for any help!

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Re: Connection Center in IMAP

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Thomas,

On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 13:25:13 +0700 GMT (25-Oct-19, 13:25 +0700 GMT),
Thomas Fernandez wrote:

> Hello Stuart,

> On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 06:28:03 -0500 GMT (23-Oct-19, 18:28 +0700 GMT),
> Stuart Cuddy wrote:

>> Hello Thomas,
>> Tuesday, October 22, 2019, 11:35:20 PM, you wrote:

>>>> For the IMAP account, it is open all the time. I manually hide it, and
>>>> then it opens again. That does make sense, because it keep the
>>>> connection open, but I don't want to see it all the time. Only when
>>>> something else than IDLE happens.

>>>> How do I achieve that?

>>> Any advice?

>> I don't think it is possible. Or at least I have never found a way.

> Bummer. I'll put it into the wishlist.

Here it is:
https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=1887

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Re: Connection Center in IMAP

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Stuart,

On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 06:28:03 -0500 GMT (23-Oct-19, 18:28 +0700 GMT),
Stuart Cuddy wrote:

> Hello Thomas,
> Tuesday, October 22, 2019, 11:35:20 PM, you wrote:

>>> For the IMAP account, it is open all the time. I manually hide it, and
>>> then it opens again. That does make sense, because it keep the
>>> connection open, but I don't want to see it all the time. Only when
>>> something else than IDLE happens.

>>> How do I achieve that?

>> Any advice?

> I don't think it is possible. Or at least I have never found a way.

Bummer. I'll put it into the wishlist.

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Re: Connection Center in IMAP

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Thomas,
Tuesday, October 22, 2019, 11:35:20 PM, you wrote:

>> For the IMAP account, it is open all the time. I manually hide it, and
>> then it opens again. That does make sense, because it keep the
>> connection open, but I don't want to see it all the time. Only when
>> something else than IDLE happens.

>> How do I achieve that?

> Any advice?

I don't think it is possible. Or at least I have never found a way.

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Re: Connection Center in IMAP

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello TBUDL,

On Fri, 27 Sep 2019 08:30:13 +0700 GMT (27-Sep-19, 8:30 +0700 GMT),
Thomas Fernandez wrote:

> Hi TBUDL,

> I have installed my first IMAP account. So far so good.

> Under Workspace / Connection Center, the CC is set to show
> Automatically, which for POP means that it shows when checking and
> then disappears (hides) again.

> For the IMAP account, it is open all the time. I manually hide it, and
> then it opens again. That does make sense, because it keep the
> connection open, but I don't want to see it all the time. Only when
> something else than IDLE happens.

> How do I achieve that?

Any advice?

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Connection Center in IMAP

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hi TBUDL,

I have installed my first IMAP account. So far so good.

Under Workspace / Connection Center, the CC is set to show
Automatically, which for POP means that it shows when checking and
then disappears (hides) again.

For the IMAP account, it is open all the time. I manually hide it, and
then it opens again. That does make sense, because it keep the
connection open, but I don't want to see it all the time. Only when
something else than IDLE happens.

How do I achieve that?

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Re: IMAP -- for dummies, please

[Christopher Warrington]

On 2019-08-26 at  5:17 PM, Melissa Reese  wrote:
> I'm still struggling with the folders/templates/filters transfer (or
> complete recreation, if need be -- eek!).

When using IMAP, basic filtering (moving messages, auto-forwarding, marking
as read, flagging, ) is often performed on the server. Each service
provider has a different interface to filters. If, based on your email,
you're using GMX, they have documentation about how their filters work at
https://support.gmx.com/email/filter-rules/index.html#breadcrumb_help_email_filter-rules_about

If you're using a different provider, you'll need to check their help pages 
for details.

The advantage of moving them to the server is that all your clients--from
multiple copies of The Bat! on different machines to your mobile phone--will
see the same messages in the same folders.

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Re: IMAP -- for dummies, please

[Marck Pearlstone]

On 27 August 2019 at 01:16 Melissa Reese wrote and made these points

MR> On Monday, August 26, 2019, at 4:06:07 PM PST, you wrote:

... 
MR> I'm still struggling with the folders/templates/filters transfer (or
MR> complete recreation, if need be -- eek!).

Oh  - it is a complete recreation. Like I said, It took me ages. But I
had over 500,000 emails in what was my main pop3 account.

But  it really was such a worthwhile exercise in terms of multi-device
mailbox access.

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Re: IMAP -- for dummies, please

[Melissa Reese]

Hi Robin,

On Monday, August 26, 2019, at 4:06:07 PM PST, you wrote:

> That's because it's IMAP.

> ...

> So I think it just comes with the change in protocol

Thanks Robin.  Just something new I need to get used to.

I'm still struggling with the folders/templates/filters transfer (or
complete recreation, if need be -- eek!).

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Re: IMAP -- for dummies, please

[Robin Anson]

On Mon, 26 Aug 2019 at 13:15:33 -0800,Melissa wrote:
> Also, I'm noticing something peculiar with checking messages via the
> IMAP account...

> The "Connection Centre" doesn't pop up on-screen automatically as it
> does when I check for new mail in my POP accounts, but apparently, it
> does open (have to click on it to show on-screen). However, it says
> it's in "IDLE mode", and I have to "abort all" and manually close the
> "Connection Centre", or it will just sit there, apparently doing
> nothing.

That's because it's IMAP.

Wikipedia tells us (amongst other things) that:

   When using POP, clients typically connect to the e-mail server briefly, only 
as
   long as it takes to download new messages. When using IMAP4, clients often 
stay
   connected as long as the user interface is active and download message 
content
   on demand. For users with many or large messages, this IMAP4 usage pattern 
can
   result in faster response times.

and that:

   IMAP4 clients need to maintain a TCP/IP connection to the IMAP server in 
order
   to be notified of the arrival of new mail.

So I think it just comes with the change in protocol

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Re: IMAP -- for dummies, please

[Marck Pearlstone]

On 26 August 2019 at 22:15 Melissa Reese wrote and made these points

MR> Thanks for getting back to me so quickly,

You are most welcome.

MR>>> Now, is there a way for me to transfer all my folders, filters, etc.
MR>>> from my current POP3 account into this new IMAP account/folder?

>> This  is  something I remember doing by dragging messages from the pop
>> folders into the IMAP ones, one folder at a time. It was painful.

MR> I'm using Windows 10.  Do I accomplish this via Windows Explorer?  Or
MR> within TB?  How do I get all my filters and templates transferred?  Is
MR> that even possible?

I  mean  within  TB itself. Filters and templates - copy / paste. It's
arduous  and  time consuming, but one off - especially if you make use
of Common filters and Quick Templates.

MR> Also, I'm noticing something peculiar with checking messages via the
MR> IMAP account...

MR> The "Connection Centre" doesn't pop up on-screen automatically as it
MR> does when I check for new mail in my POP accounts, but apparently, it
MR> does open (have to click on it to show on-screen). However, it says
MR> it's in "IDLE mode", and I have to "abort all" and manually close the
MR> "Connection Centre", or it will just sit there, apparently doing
MR> nothing.

Not something I use, so I can't help with that.

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Re: IMAP -- for dummies, please

[Melissa Reese]

Hi Marck,

Thanks for getting back to me so quickly,

On Monday, August 26, 2019, at 12:47:18 PM PST, you wrote:

MR>> Now, is there a way for me to transfer all my folders, filters, etc.
MR>> from my current POP3 account into this new IMAP account/folder?

> This  is  something I remember doing by dragging messages from the pop
> folders into the IMAP ones, one folder at a time. It was painful.

I'm using Windows 10.  Do I accomplish this via Windows Explorer?  Or
within TB?  How do I get all my filters and templates transferred?  Is
that even possible?

Also, I'm noticing something peculiar with checking messages via the
IMAP account...

The "Connection Centre" doesn't pop up on-screen automatically as it
does when I check for new mail in my POP accounts, but apparently, it
does open (have to click on it to show on-screen). However, it says
it's in "IDLE mode", and I have to "abort all" and manually close the
"Connection Centre", or it will just sit there, apparently doing
nothing.

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Re: IMAP -- for dummies, please

[Melissa Reese]

Hi again,

On Monday, August 26, 2019, at 12:29:46 PM PST, you wrote:

> Hi,

> Sorry to reply to myself, but here's an update...


Oh no, here we go again...

When I first set up the new IMAP account, it instantly downloaded the
latest 26 messages, so I just assumed all was well. Since then, when I
try to check email for that new account, I'm just getting this, and
nothing more:

 8/26/2019, 12:48:55: IMAP  - TLS handshake complete
 8/26/2019, 12:48:55: IMAP  - Connected to IMAP server (imap.secureserver.net)
>8/26/2019, 12:48:55: IMAP  - Fenix ready.
 8/26/2019, 12:48:55: IMAP  - Authenticating (user: 
"meli...@willkayakforfood.net", method: "LOGIN")...
 8/26/2019, 12:48:55: IMAP  - IMAP server authentication OK, server says "LOGIN 
Full IMAP support is enabled"

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Re: IMAP -- for dummies, please

[Marck Pearlstone]

On 26 August 2019 at 21:29 Melissa Reese wrote and made these points

... 
>> Could someone please give me--or point to--all the proper settings I
>> need to get IMAP working in my TB? With thousands of messages in the
>> many folders of the account in question, I certainly don't want to
>> have to start a whole new account/folder and potentially lose all my
>> messages, which I refer to often when looking for something.

MR> Okay, as an experiment, I set up a "new account" (IMAP).  It works.

MR> Now, is there a way for me to transfer all my folders, filters, etc.
MR> from my current POP3 account into this new IMAP account/folder?

This  is  something I remember doing by dragging messages from the pop
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Re: IMAP -- for dummies, please

[Melissa Reese]

Hi,

Sorry to reply to myself, but here's an update...

On Monday, August 26, 2019, at 12:03:12 PM PST, you wrote:

> Could someone please give me--or point to--all the proper settings I
> need to get IMAP working in my TB? With thousands of messages in the
> many folders of the account in question, I certainly don't want to
> have to start a whole new account/folder and potentially lose all my
> messages, which I refer to often when looking for something.

Okay, as an experiment, I set up a "new account" (IMAP).  It works.

Now, is there a way for me to transfer all my folders, filters, etc.
from my current POP3 account into this new IMAP account/folder?


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IMAP -- for dummies, please

[Melissa Reese]

Hello fellow Batters,

It's been a while since I've had to ask a question here, but now it
seems I'm going to be switching to IMAP after using POP3 forever.

I've been trying to set up my primary email account (not the one used
for this email list), but have been so far unsuccessful.

When I look at my settings after filling in all the supposed IMAP
stuff, it still says "Protocol: POP3". When I click on "Change", I'm
only presented with two options: "POP3" or "Exchange". I'm currently
using TB version 7.x.

When talking to the tech person at my email server provider, he said
"Don't use "Exchange".

Could someone please give me--or point to--all the proper settings I
need to get IMAP working in my TB? With thousands of messages in the
many folders of the account in question, I certainly don't want to
have to start a whole new account/folder and potentially lose all my
messages, which I refer to often when looking for something.

So far, the closest I've gotten is to "TLS handshake complete" -- then
nothing. No incoming email, even though I know there should be
incoming messages.

I would need the proper settings for the "Authentication" options as
well -- for both sending and receiving.

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Re: IMAP - How to download all message bodies when subscribing to a new folder

[Luca]

Stuart Cuddy:

> Hello Luca,
> Monday, March 25, 2019, 5:08:26 PM, you wrote:
> 
> > When I setup an IMAP folder TB downloads only headers, even if I checked 
> > "get
> > entire message" wherever I could find it. Which option do I have to setup to
> > have TB download all message bodies at once, without having to select each 
> > and
> > every single message?
> 
> Right click on account name and select "Manage IMAP Folders".
> Then Right click on the folder you want to download messages from and Select 
> Download Mode/Own Settings and then set to download entire message.

Tnx, it works.
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Re: IMAP - How to download all message bodies when subscribing to a new folder

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Luca,
Monday, March 25, 2019, 5:08:26 PM, you wrote:

> When I setup an IMAP folder TB downloads only headers, even if I checked "get
> entire message" wherever I could find it. Which option do I have to setup to
> have TB download all message bodies at once, without having to select each and
> every single message?

Right click on account name and select "Manage IMAP Folders".
Then Right click on the folder you want to download messages from and Select 
Download Mode/Own Settings and then set to download entire message.


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IMAP - How to download all message bodies when subscribing to a new folder

[Luca]

When I setup an IMAP folder TB downloads only headers, even if I checked "get
entire message" wherever I could find it. Which option do I have to setup to
have TB download all message bodies at once, without having to select each and
every single message?

Tnx.
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Importing or converting common folders into imap folders

[Luca]

I need a quick way to convert a tree of common folders into folders under an
IMAP account. Any idea? Drag and drop doesn't work that way.

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Imap and

[Tom]

Hello Everyone,

I am used to POP for my accounts and IMAP on my iphone but on one pc I
have just started using IMAP with TB.
Everything  seems  to  work  but  I  noticed  the TB Connection Centre
running and when I open this it shows the 5 accounts with elapsed time
and Transfer data in the top field and some running task in the bottom
field.

On  my  regular pc running TB with POP accounts I have never seen this
before. Is this normal and what does it do or signify?

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Re: Changing from POP to Imap

[Tom]

Sunday, October 21, 2018, 10:52:28 PM, you wrote:

> Hello Tom,

> it is no problem to have a POP and an IMAP account for the same address.
> The way to migrate your emails from POP to IMAP is as follows:
> - create the IMAP account
> - move or copy the emails you want to keep to the new account
> - delete the old account or keep it, no problem.
> I have several addresses with POP and IMAP and they are all working.

> Kind regards
> Feli 

Hi Feli,

thanks  for  the  response.  I don't even need to keep the emails as I
have them all on a different pc where I will continue to use POP.
On this new set up I am only interested in using IMAP and thought
there  is  way to change the setting so that in future for these email
accounts IMAP is used instead of Pop. Basically you say I need
to set up the accounts fresh as IMAP accounts - that's fine, just will
take a bit longer.
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Re: Changing from POP to Imap

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Tom,

it is no problem to have a POP and an IMAP account for the same address.
The way to migrate your emails from POP to IMAP is as follows:
- create the IMAP account
- move or copy the emails you want to keep to the new account
- delete the old account or keep it, no problem.
I have several addresses with POP and IMAP and they are all working.

Kind regards
Feli 

Am 21. Oktober 2018 11:19:40 MESZ schrieb Tom :
>
>Hello Everyone,
>
>what  is  the procedure to change a pop account to imap?  Seems such a
>basic  issue  but  I  am  afraid  I  can't  work it out. Under Account
>Properties/Transport I can see the settings for servers and ports and
>Pop is shown as existing.  I don't see anything there that would allow
>me to untick this or use IMAP instead.
>Do I need to delete the account and recreate it?
>
>
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>
>
>
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Changing from POP to Imap

[Tom]

Hello Everyone,

what  is  the procedure to change a pop account to imap?  Seems such a
basic  issue  but  I  am  afraid  I  can't  work it out. Under Account
Properties/Transport I can see the settings for servers and ports and
Pop is shown as existing.  I don't see anything there that would allow
me to untick this or use IMAP instead.
Do I need to delete the account and recreate it?


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Re: IMAP root folder

[Alto Speckhardt]

Hi,


>> The problem is that in this dialog ("Manage folders") there is only
>> one instance of the folder, not the two that are shown in message
>> list. The "Manage folders" dialog is exactly the way the folders
>> exist on the server, only the "Folder list" is not.

SC> Is there no Plus sign beside the Inbox?

Yes, there is. But if I uncheck that, the respective folder disappears 
not only from

INBOX.MyFolder

but also from

MyFolder.


There is no listing of "MyFolder" in "Manage folders", only (!) of 
"Inbox.MyFolder".


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Re: IMAP root folder

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Alto,
Tuesday, October 16, 2018, 4:27:31 AM, you wrote:

> I know that. The problem is that in this dialog ("Manage folders")
> there is only one instance of the folder, not the two that are shown
> in message list. The "Manage folders" dialog is exactly the way the
> folders exist on the server, only the "Folder list" is not.

Is there no Plus sign beside the Inbox?

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Re: IMAP root folder

[Alto Speckhardt]

Hi,


>> That dosn't seem possible either: In Account/Manage IMAP folders there
>> is only one instance listed, the INBOX.* hierarchy. I can see
>> "INBOX.Myfolder" there, but not ".MyFolder".

SC> Right click on your account name and Select Manage IMAP folders. There you 
can
SC> choose which folders you want to subscribe to. Just un-select the ones you 
don't
SC> want.

I know that. The problem is that in this dialog ("Manage folders")
there is only one instance of the folder, not the two that are shown
in message list. The "Manage folders" dialog is exactly the way the
folders exist on the server, only the "Folder list" is not.


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Re: IMAP root folder

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Alto,
Monday, October 15, 2018, 10:17:47 AM, you wrote:

> That dosn't seem possible either: In Account/Manage IMAP folders there
> is only one instance listed, the INBOX.* hierarchy. I can see
> "INBOX.Myfolder" there, but not ".MyFolder".

Right click on your account name and Select Manage IMAP folders. There you can 
choose which folders you want to subscribe to. Just un-select the ones you 
don't 
want.

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Re: IMAP root folder

[Alto Speckhardt]

Hello Stuart,


>> but it also still shows the old Inbox-structure. Every folder is shown
>> twice, making the complete folder list present as follows:

SC> I don't know if it is by design, but it does happen. If your email is 
showing up
SC> in both folders, then just unsubscribe from the folders you don't want to 
see.

That dosn't seem possible either: In Account/Manage IMAP folders there
is only one instance listed, the INBOX.* hierarchy. I can see
"INBOX.Myfolder" there, but not ".MyFolder".


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Re: IMAP root folder

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Alto,
Sunday, October 14, 2018, 2:34:25 PM, you wrote:

> but it also still shows the old Inbox-structure. Every folder is shown
> twice, making the complete folder list present as follows:

I don't know if it is by design, but it does happen. If your email is showing 
up 
in both folders, then just unsubscribe from the folders you don't want to see.

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IMAP root folder

[Alto Speckhardt]

Hello,


I'm having trouble configuring TheBat v8.6 for a new IMAP account:


The Server (Dovecot) is presenting all folders within Inbox, e.g.

INBOX.Sent
INBOX.Trash
INBOX.MyFolder
etc.

When I specify the IMAP "root folder" in the account's settings 
dialog, TheBat shows the folders in the list on the first level:

Sent
Trash
MyFolder
etc.

but it also still shows the old Inbox-structure. Every folder is shown
twice, making the complete folder list present as follows:

INBOX.Sent
INBOX.Trash
INBOX.MyFolder
Sent
Trash
MyFolder


Is this intentional?


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Email: What’s the Difference Between POP3, IMAP, and Exchange?

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello TBUDL's,

I ran across this article in HOWTOGEEK.com and thought it might be of some
interest to those of us who wondered about the differences.

https://www.howtogeek.com/99423/email-whats-the-difference-in-pop3-imap-and-exchange/

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Re: Moving IMAP servers

[Lore Galore]

On 3/15/2018 12:57 PM, Stuart Cuddy wrote:
> Hello Tbudl,
>
>   I need to change my email accounts from one provider to another. They are 
> IMAP 
> and I don't want to lose the email in those accounts. Any suggestions.
>
> If I change the existing IMAP account in The Bat to point to the new servers 
> will the email in that account disappear because there is no mail on the new 
> server to sync, or will the local mail I have sync up to the new server.
>
> What if I back my local account up, rename that account, create a new account 
> with the same name and then restore the backup work?
>
> Help???
>
Stuart,

I think the easiest way to do this is to have both IMAP accounts set up
in The Bat!, and then copy or move the emails from one account to the other.

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Moving IMAP servers

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Tbudl,

  I need to change my email accounts from one provider to another. They are 
IMAP 
and I don't want to lose the email in those accounts. Any suggestions.

If I change the existing IMAP account in The Bat to point to the new servers 
will the email in that account disappear because there is no mail on the new 
server to sync, or will the local mail I have sync up to the new server.

What if I back my local account up, rename that account, create a new account 
with the same name and then restore the backup work?

Help???

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Re: Gmail Imap Archive mails

[Susanne]

Hello Tony,

Monday, March 5, 2018, 9:36:06 AM, you wrote:

> Where would you archive them to? 

To a folder on my hard drive. I've done it with a gmail pop account before, but 
am not sure about deletion in Gmail, when using IMAP.
The messages would disappear from the IMAP account, but not go to the trash.

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Re: Gmail Imap Archive mails

[Susanne]

Hello MFPA,

Monday, March 5, 2018, 1:14:39 PM, you wrote:

> This is what I do for POP accounts. I have no IMAP accounts so do not 
> know if it translates. 

> I got the idea from MAU on this list over ten years ago, and I may as
> well paste in his description:-

Thanks! The only part that I wonder about is if the messages will get deleted 
on gmail, if they never show up in the trash.

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Re: Gmail Imap Archive mails

[MFPA]

Hi


On Saturday 3 March 2018 at 10:19:09 PM, in
<mid:1933950442.20180303141...@gmail.com>, Susanne wrote:-


> Hello,

> does someone have any advice how to accomplish this
> with a Gmail Imap account in TB:

> I want to archive messages older than a certain date
> in TB, and delete them in gmail.
> Is this possible with filters?  



This is what I do for POP accounts. I have no IMAP accounts so do not 
know if it translates. 

I got the idea from MAU on this list over ten years ago, and I may as
well paste in his description:-



On Wednesday 10 January 2007 at 1:32:49 PM, in
<mid:50628043.20070110143...@rancho-k.com>, MAU wrote:-


> Hello Lex,

>> Is there a way i can do this or something very
>> similar in the bat! ?

> Similar and from my POV even better and easier. I got
> the idea from
> someone else (don't remember who), but this is what I
> do:

> - I have a password protected account (will explain
> later why it is
> password protected) that I call 'Archive'.

> - This Archive account duplicates the folder tree
> structure of my main
> account. Actually, it just duplicates the folder I do
> want to archive.

> - In the Properties/General of each of the folders of
> my main account
> that I want to archive, I tick the option 'Keep
> messages in the vase for
> (days)' and enter the NN number of days.

> - In Properties/Deletion, I tick the 'Use folder
> specific deletion
> settings' option.

> - Then, for 'Alternative deletion' I select 'Move to
> the specified
> folder' and, of course, I browse to select the
> corresponding folder in
> the 'Archive account'.

> - And also tick the box for 'Use alternative deletion
> for purging this
> folder'.

> And that is it. As I have said, I do this in each of
> the folder I do
> want to archive. Now, when every night I run ?folder
> Maintenance with
> the Purge and Compress option, the 'old messages' in
> each folder are
> automagically moved to the corresponding folder in
> the Archive account.

> What's the benefit of doing this? Well, as I said at
> the beginning, the
> Archive account is password protected. This way, when
> you start TB, it
> will not open any password protected account and
> 'waste time' in opening
> each of it folders. Only when I need to find an
> archived message is when
> I select my Archive account, enter the password and
> open it.

> One other thing I do to easily remember which folders
> I have set up for
> 'automatic archiving' is to assign these folders to
> an 'Archive Colour
> Groups' (blue in my case). This way, I can easily see
> in my folder tree
> which folder do have an corresponding archive one.

> I'm really happy with this set-up.  



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Re: Gmail Imap Archive mails

[Tony Hoare]

Hello Susanne,

Saturday, March 3, 2018, 10:19:09 PM, you wrote:

> Hello,

> does someone have any advice how to accomplish this with a Gmail Imap account 
> in TB:

> I want to archive messages older than a certain date in TB, and delete them 
> in gmail.
> Is this possible with filters?

Where would you archive them to? If you are reaching your Gmail size 
limit, you'll need another account to move them to. This could be 
done with filters.

If you're not near the limit, you could create another folder called 
Archive and move the old emails there again using filters or even 
manually.

TB! does use offline storage for POP3 accounts so you might be able to 
do something creative there.

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Gmail Imap Archive mails

[Susanne]

Hello,

does someone have any advice how to accomplish this with a Gmail Imap account 
in TB:

I want to archive messages older than a certain date in TB, and delete them in 
gmail.
Is this possible with filters?
  

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IMAP - Folder [specified folder within my file tree] has empty IMAP name

[Jonathan Andrew Sheen]

Hi, All,

So, I just did a computer upgrade that involved re-installing TheBat!,
and  I'm  getting  this  error  every  time  the  clint  polls for new
messages:

!1/9/2018, 20:07:51: IMAP  - Folder 
\\jsh...@leviathanstudios.com\[Gmail]\Mailing Lists\Comics\ has empty IMAP name

How do I fix this?

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Re: Converting POP to IMAP

[Richard Newman]

Hello Julian,

Thursday, November 16, 2017, 1:18:21 PM, you wrote:
jlttcu> I am not sure whether you can sync with existing TB sub-folders - you
jlttcu> would need to create these in the IMAP account, and then copy across
Thanks for your thoughts.

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Re: Converting POP to IMAP

[jb_lists_tb]

Hello Richard,

On Thursday, November 16, 2017, 4:10:16 PM, Richard Newman wrote:

>   Anybody have a suggestion(s) as to how to most effeciently convert a
>   POP account to IMAP with syncing existing TB sub-folders?  Or a 
>   clear source for that information?

I am not sure whether you can sync with existing TB sub-folders - you
would need to create these in the IMAP account, and then copy across
existing messages. You could write a sorting office rule to copy
messages in other sub-folders into your IMAP account in TB
automatically, I guess, from where they would be synchronised. Any
filtering done in the IMAP account in TB should be reflected back in
the IMAP account, as long as you are filtering to folders in that
account.

I  generally do server-side filtering these days, as it means that the
filtering   works  from any device, not just TB. That said, I am lucky
that  my  mail  provider (FastMail) provides a comprehensive filtering
language that enables this.

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Converting POP to IMAP

[Richard Newman]

Hello Bat People,

  Anybody have a suggestion(s) as to how to most effeciently convert a 
  POP account to IMAP with syncing existing TB sub-folders?  Or a 
  clear source for that information?
  
  Thanks.
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Re: IMAP ERROR "IMAP - Folder \ has empty IMAP name"

[Martin]

Hi Jonathan

On Tuesday, April 18, 2017 10:28:40 PM you wrote:

> I'm getting repeated error messages that make working in TheBat!
> unworkable:

> IMAP ERROR "IMAP  - Folder \ has empty IMAP name"

> What do I do?

Not good - but I am sorry I don't see any problems over here with all
my IMAP accounts and TheBat! with recent 32bit version

Are you shure this isn't a connection problem (Internet) or a problem
with the server of your provider?

Perhaps you give more information: Which version of TheBat!, 64 or 32
bit version and on which platform (Windows - which one).

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IMAP ERROR "IMAP - Folder \ has empty IMAP name"

[Jonathan Andrew Sheen]

Hi, All,

I'm getting repeated error messages that make working in TheBat!
unworkable:

IMAP ERROR "IMAP  - Folder \ has empty IMAP name"

What do I do?

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Re: Can I set up an IMAP account for a gmail address?

[MAU]

Hello Susanne,

>>  I wonder if you could
>> mention all the settings/ports/etc. you're using for both incoming and
>> outgoing mail on that account? Thanks!
>
> Sure!
> SMTP Server:
> smtp.gmail.com 
> Secure to dedicated Port (TLS) Port 465

That is my setting and I don' recall having any problem.

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Re: Can I set up an IMAP account for a gmail address?

[Adrian Godfrey]

Thursday, March 9, 2017, 1:27:15 PM, you wrote:

> Been using port 26 for years and still do.

587 usually works as well.

Just a bit strange that they block port 25 when you are using the SMTP
server from your own hosting/domain.
The   ones I have come across (prepaid SIM card in a 3G wifi router or
USB 3G modem) don't seem to have their own SMTP servers
anyway.

Adrian



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Re[2]: Can I set up an IMAP account for a gmail address?

[Paul Van Noord]

3/9/2017  7:25 AM

Hi Adrian,

On 3/9/2017 Adrian Godfrey wrote:

AG> Tuesday, March 7, 2017, 11:43:34 PM, you wrote:

>>> I am surprised port 25 for SMTP works. That is
>>> blocked by many ISPs.

AG> A VPN fixes
AG> the  problem.  Otherwise,  you  have  to ask your hosting provider for
AG> alternatives to port 25.

Been using port 26 for years and still do.

- --
Paul

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Re: Can I set up an IMAP account for a gmail address?

[Adrian Godfrey]

Tuesday, March 7, 2017, 11:43:34 PM, you wrote:

>> I am surprised port 25 for SMTP works. That is
>> blocked by many ISPs.

> I have been hearing that for years but never encountered it myself.

It  gets  particularly  irritating  when you use the SMTP£ server from
your own domain, but your actual Internet connection is not your fixed
line DSL at home. In those cases (e.g. hotel wifi, SIM card in a 3G/4G
router), if you can find what the SMTP server
is,  then  port 25 works, but some don't seem to have one. A VPN fixes
the  problem.  Otherwise,  you  have  to ask your hosting provider for
alternatives to port 25.

Adrian



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Re: Can I set up an IMAP account for a gmail address?

[Jernej Simončič]

On Tuesday, March 7, 2017, 23:43:34, MFPA wrote:

> I have been hearing that for years but never encountered it myself. 

I know of several ISPs that do it, and I do it myself on the networks
I manage (especially those that are intended for [more or less]
general public).

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Re: Can I set up an IMAP account for a gmail address?

[Susanne]

Hello MFPA,

Monday, March 6, 2017, 11:48:28 AM, you wrote:

> For mail retrieval to work, I also have to log onto gmail website 
> from time to time and either change my password or turn back on an 
> arcanely-named setting called "Allow less secure apps".

That is so strange! 
I've never had a problem like that with Gmail and TB-Imap or Pop.
Am I just lucky?

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Re: Can I set up an IMAP account for a gmail address?

[MFPA]

Hi


On Tuesday 7 March 2017 at 9:43:06 AM, in
, Adrian Godfrey wrote:-


> I am surprised port 25 for SMTP works. That is
> blocked by many ISPs.

I have been hearing that for years but never encountered it myself. 

-- 
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MFPA  

The trouble with words is that you never know whose mouths they've been in.

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Re: Can I set up an IMAP account for a gmail address?

[Adrian Godfrey]

Monday, March 6, 2017, 8:48:28 PM, you wrote:

> For mail retrieval to work, I also have to log onto gmail website

That   is   a   real   pain  and  rather defeats the point of an email
address.  Sometimes you have to do that if your active
Internet  connection  has a different IP address. Not difficult if you
travel and don't always use the same or even any VPN.

I am surprised port 25 for SMTP works. That is blocked by many ISPs.

Adrian



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Re: Can I set up an IMAP account for a gmail address?

[MFPA]

Hi


On Monday 6 March 2017 at 12:40:22 AM, in
<mid:1307512570.20170305164...@gmail.com>, Susanne wrote:-


> Hello Melissa,

> Sunday, March 5, 2017, 4:19:45 PM, you wrote:

>>  I wonder if you could
>> mention all the settings/ports/etc. you're using
>> for both incoming and
>> outgoing mail on that account? Thanks!

> Sure!
> SMTP Server:
> smtp.gmail.com 
> Secure to dedicated Port (TLS) Port 465

> Mail Server:
> imap.gmail.com   Protocol IMAP4
> User: your email address
> Secure to dedicated Port (TLS) Port 993

> Under Authentication: same user/password as for mail
> retrieval

> I hope it helps!  


My current gmail settings are:-

SMTP server: smtp.gmail.com
Connection: Secure to Regular Port (STARTTLS)
Port: 25
Authentication: Tick in Box for "Perform SMTP Authorisation (RFC2554)"
"same user/password as for mail retrieval" selected.

Mail Server:  pop.gmail.com
User:   Recent:myUsername 
Password:   xxx
Connection: Secure to dedicated port (TLS)
Port:   995
Authentication: Regular


For mail retrieval to work, I also have to log onto gmail website 
from time to time and either change my password or turn back on an 
arcanely-named setting called "Allow less secure apps". (And if you 
are now wanting to retrieve messages via IMAP instead of POP3, check 
you have IMAP enabled in the mail settings on the gmail website. You 
can have both enabled.)


-- 
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MFPA  <mailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net>

If it aint broke, fix it till it is broke!

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Re: Can I set up an IMAP account for a gmail address?

[jb_lists_tb]

On Monday, March 6, 2017, 12:19:45 AM, Melissa Reese wrote:

> I tried that, but it still didn't work for me. I wonder if you could
> mention all the settings/ports/etc. you're using for both incoming and
> outgoing mail on that account? Thanks!

Just  a  thought  - do you need to set up an app specific password for
TB on Gmail? I think that I had to do that at some point over the last
year or two in order to continue to use Gmail with TB.

I  am  using  the  same  connection  settings as the others, and these
worked before I upgrade to 7.x, so I don't think it is the TB version.

-- 
   Julian  

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Re: Can I set up an IMAP account for a gmail address?

[Susanne]

Hello Melissa,

Sunday, March 5, 2017, 4:19:45 PM, you wrote:

>  I wonder if you could
> mention all the settings/ports/etc. you're using for both incoming and
> outgoing mail on that account? Thanks!

Sure!
SMTP Server:
smtp.gmail.com 
Secure to dedicated Port (TLS) Port 465

Mail Server:
imap.gmail.com   Protocol IMAP4
User: your email address
Secure to dedicated Port (TLS) Port 993

Under Authentication: same user/password as for mail retrieval


I hope it helps!





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 Susannemailto:sisk...@gmail.com

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Re: Can I set up an IMAP account for a gmail address?

[Melissa Reese]

Hi Susanne,

On Sunday, March 05, 2017, at 3:10:57 PM PST, you wrote:

> TLS works for me on a Gmail Imap account.

I tried that, but it still didn't work for me. I wonder if you could
mention all the settings/ports/etc. you're using for both incoming and
outgoing mail on that account? Thanks!


-- 
Melissa

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Re: Can I set up an IMAP account for a gmail address?

[Susanne]

Sunday, March 5, 2017, 3:56:23 PM, MFPA wrote:

> You probably need to use TLS or STARTTLS, 

TLS works for me on a Gmail Imap account.

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 Susannemailto:sisk...@gmail.com

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Re: Can I set up an IMAP account for a gmail address?

[MFPA]

Hi


On Sunday 5 March 2017 at 11:46:57 PM, in
, Melissa Reese wrote:-


> incoming authorization
> (according to gmail) seems to want "SSL", which is
> not listed in the
> available authorization options for incoming mail. 

You probably need to use TLS or STARTTLS, but that is a connection 
method rather than an authorisation option. (I use POP3 for my gmail 
account, with "regular" authorisation.)


-- 
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MFPA  

Free advice costs nothing until you act upon it

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Can I set up an IMAP account for a gmail address?

[Melissa Reese]

Hi,

I've always used pop3 for my accounts, but I have one new account that
would be more convenient if I could set it up via the IMAP protocol.

I tried to set up the account as IMAP, but the incoming authorization
(according to gmail) seems to want "SSL", which is not listed in the
available authorization options for incoming mail.  Do I need a v7.x
Bat to get that option?  Or will this v6.x version work as well?
Because...

I'm still using a v6.x Bat on this computer. My main computer, which
has v7.x installed, isn't working properly at the moment, so I've been
using this other computer for a few months. As far as I know, I
purchased two different licenses for the two computers, and I don't
think I can "upgrade" this Bat without purchasing a new license.

I'm wondering - since the Bat with the newer license is on a
misbehaving computer at the moment, could I somehow use that license
to upgrade this instance of Bat?

In any event, I'd like to know if there's a way to set up this new
gmail account as IMAP on this machine with Bat v6.x.

Thanks!

-- 
Melissa

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Re: Sent messages to server IMAP folder

[Petr Laznovsky]

Dne 31.1.2016 v 22:34 Roelof Otten napsal(a):

Hallo TBUDL,

Op zondag 31 januari 2016, 18:40:53, schreef Petr Laznovsky:


I am new on IMAP: How could I config program to storing messages sent from IMAP 
account to server
SENT forlder, not only to local disc. Want to messages sent from
desktop will be visible in webmail
connnected to this account.


Match the sent messages folder to a sever side folder via:
  Account -> Properties -> Mail management -> Set predefined folders...




That is the point... Thank you...



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Re: Sent mail in Gmail/imap

[Susanne]

Hello Tony,

Monday, May 2, 2016, 1:53:52 AM, you wrote:

> I have sent mail going to [Gmail]/Sent Mail.

Thanks!
I'll give that a try today.
It's amazing how long it takes to get everything set up again on a new
computer.

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