Thanks Saq, Hard to code on ones mobile;
Tony K
The triple braces and trim and other methods to handle strings in a filter
is one of the best ways because unlike other methods it allows you to
transform the input to a parameter after its "=" sign, without reverting to
other variables or
Rob
You can change the order of items in the tag drop down with manual drag and
drop. However this operates on all tiddlers so tagged. Ie no additional filters
are applied. It is best to use other mechanisiums where you have much more
control my favorite being the list Widget. As you say
Tony
Best you share some code for us to look at. Try and replicate on tiddlywiki.com
It can all depend how you reference the value. Of you set a variable to a text
reference it should work but using triple braces and trim if needed.
Regards
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Have you thought of using
{{!!title}} to access the current Tiddlers title?
Use this as the value={{!!title}} in a set widget but keep in mind the title
equals <> already
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I think the filters you may be looking for are
[all[current]fields[]prefix[price_]] for price fields on the current tiddler
Or use say [!is[system]fields[]prefix[price_]]
Both return tiddlers with price fields you can then have code inside a list
widget to extract the field values.
Let me
Led
A quick followup. The list-ops term in tiddlywiki relates to manipulating
titles so that handles the square brackets as needed.
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I wonder if this subtle fact could make a difference.
has[tags] asks if there is a non empty tags field. And thus !has[tags] is a
double negative not non empty. I find it safer to use has:field[tags] will
return if it exists at all, with a value or not. The negation should indicate
I use riz's editor toolbar button all the time for this in text or I time stamp
a field if I want it retained indefinitly. For example rather than tag
something with done, timestamp a done field. If the done field exists has[done]
it is done, but I also know the time and date it was done, even
Could those in the thread explain to a broader audience what such a function
would do for us and or a use case?
thanks
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good stuff thanks for sharing your original work
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lt;>
;Macro used as input to the text widget
<$text text=<>/>
;Use as Variable after wikifying
<$wikify name=result text="""<>""" >
<$text text=<>/>
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Tony
On Thursday, 7 May 2020 15:32:10 UTC+10, Eric N. wrote:
&
Eric N
Thanks for sharing, I thought I would turn it into a macro because it is a
general type of solution.
\define intersect(filter1 filter2)
<$set name="filterA" filter="$filter1$">
<$set name="filterB" filter="$filter2$">
<$set name="setAunionB" filter="[enlist] [enlist]">
<$set
a macro for and integrates with
wordpress so perhaps I will revisit that.
Regards
Tony
On Wednesday, 6 May 2020 13:23:22 UTC+10, TonyM wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
>
> Although it is a real challenge at the moment, I try and work through
> every post in the forum and keep track of tiddl
Mat
Thanks for your thoughts. Perhaps consider for a moment if you had something to
share, you often share good content in the forum, what do you think about
sending an email, getting a WordPress Id or sending a json file?
I am thinking more of content for the tiddlywiki community rather named
Folks,
Although it is a real challenge at the moment, I try and work through every
post in the forum and keep track of tiddlywiki developments. I collect
plugins, and methods and macros and methods and are always looking at
tiddlywiki as a platform and building the resources for rapid
Riz,
My answer was an answer to Marks
>
> I wonder, is it possible to detect the OS during boot-up and set the
> default buttons accordingly?
> You mean for OS? Is there any known and working savers for other OS? For
> eg, have anyone tested tw5 in chrome OS or Firefox OS?
>
The download
missing CSS
- AM I supposed to do more to create such a Wiki?
- I opened an existing folder based bob wiki, Is this unsafe?, there is
not bob plugin visible!
Thanks
Tony
On Wednesday, 6 May 2020 11:38:13 UTC+10, TonyM wrote:
>
> I agree too, but there are a few paths tha
gt; around this issue, we can consider changes.
>
>
* Then I said this*
When something is hard to fix make it into a feature. :) I am not kidding.
> Perhaps a replacement edit Button could be created to respond like bob
> tiddlers pending save to the server do, an edit button tha
I agree too, but there are a few paths that need to be at the top, and In
some ways they should be limited with links to additional options
Here is an incomplete list that attempts to guide people, but I think we
should have an even simpler *TiddlyWiki Recommends eg; Timimi,
TiddlyDesktop,
Folks,
A Quick mention of prior art, and related ideas for view and edit as one
mode, visual/wysiwig editing
- There is a visual editor based on CKEditor, I generates HTML wikis,
good for HTML designers but not so good with wiki text, however you can add
wikitext and widgets later
Jeremy,
Thanks for the new release of this invaluable tool for tiddlywiki.
- One Question though is can the ability to ask TiddlyDesktop to share
tiddlywiki's via url, such as on the local network be made available?
I vaguely remembers suggestions this was already possible but the
Mark,
Good ideas, as is often the case you and Mat inspire me. I do not have time
now to demonstrate the ideas you have spawned, but here is a few quick
points, and without the detail may provide inspiration to you both;
- What of a customised excise tool, that cuts selected text, asks for
The browser sniffer plugin retrieves browser information for the purpose see
core plugins.
Always provide an other button.
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Tony
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With respect using a binary yes no that checkboxes create, on a field called
list or tags already offends the naming gods. Reusing what I would call core
fields for another purpose seems wrong as well.
With all due respect this is not a bug its a footnote.
If you must make use of core fields
Folks
Intersting discussion. I am one of those apparently eternal tinkerers, and
whilst I acknowledge tiddlywiki can take you down many rabbit holes to
detrimental levels, I want to defend the tinkering, deeply.
My tinkering has goals;
Become expert in tiddlywiki
Support the community
Treat it
Thanks Mario,
I will turn this into some notes and republish.
Thanks a lot.
Regards
Tony
On Tuesday, 5 May 2020 04:58:29 UTC+10, PMario wrote:
>
> On Monday, May 4, 2020 at 12:07:32 AM UTC+2, TonyM wrote:
> ...
>
>>
>>> The [tag[abcd]] filter index does speed
I am not using roam but do you have other export choices?
json html text xlsx csv and now xml are possible formats to use into tiddly
wiki.
Also can you map objects content and fields into tiddlywiki?, I expect so but
this needs to be done.
Regards
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Jared
To view in the browser on a mobile the only way to save automatically is if
tiddlywiki is on a server. There are solutions I use php with tw-reciever. But
you need to install it on your phone or place it somewhere on the internet and
that can get messy.
I think arlens suggestion is the
Tony K
As Jed Voiced. Your question is not clear enough, what is a type and what
are its values? You need to provide more details.
If the document tiddler is tagged with more than one tiddler you need a way
to know which of these tiddlers is what you have nominated as the parent.
- It is
Florian,
I am yet to do this myself but first you find out which plugin the shadow
tiddler belongs using https://tiddlywiki.com/#shadowsource%20Operator
eg; $:/core
- On a given system tiddler see Info (button) advanced. this will
indicate the shadow source as well.
- See also
Mark, Soo Cool!
On Monday, 4 May 2020 10:58:09 UTC+10, Mark S. wrote:
>
>
> \define filt-alltags()
> <$vars tag1="tag[" tag2="]" lb="[" rb="]">
> <$set filter=
> "[all[current]tags[]addprefixaddsuffix]+[join[]addprefixaddsuffix]"
>
> name="filt" select=0>
> <$text text=<>/>
>
>
> \end
>
>
Ilyallya
The host or your computer needs something installed on it which has
permission to save files. This is because modern browser prevent this for
security reasons. You need the Browser Plugin + Host part. The Browser
plugin "sends your files to the host component"
There are host apps for
Post script, Perhaps use https://tiddlywiki.com/#contains%20Operator to see
if one tag field contains the tag in the other tag field.
On Monday, 4 May 2020 10:13:35 UTC+10, TonyM wrote:
>
> Riz,
>
> That is more precise. Thanks
>
> *Unfortunatly I must work on something else
t;> We don't know beforehand what titles are there in the list field or how
>>> many.
>>>
>>> So tag[title1]tag[title2]...won't work.
>>>
>>> On Mon, 4 May 2020, 05:08 TonyM, >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I will just add for
Riz
In such cases its about the union of groups. Selecting Windows should keep
all windows possibilities alive including firefox, clicking firetfox should
lisk all solutions that work with both.
However the servers allow the same across all browsers at a URL so if its a
served or Single File
I will just add for clarity
[[tiddler1]] [[tiddler2]] [[tiddler3]]
Is in effect three (3) Runs
To test these its easier to say
[[tiddler1]] [[tiddler2]] [[tiddler3]] +[get[fieldname]match[yes]]
Regards
Tony
On Monday, 4 May 2020 09:31:52 UTC+10, TonyM wrote:
>
> Riz
>
> We can
4:50 Rizwan Ishak, > wrote:
>
>> Yes
>>
>> On Mon, 4 May 2020, 04:50 TonyM, >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Riz
>>> Perhaps also would be a better word than and if I understand you?
>>>
>>> tony
>>>
>>> --
>>
Riz
We can say [enlist{!!list}] generates the tiddlers you want to test if they
have particular tags
This is a run, if you want to test each item in that run you either append
more filters or use a +[[run]] to apply to each item
So the following should be what you are looking for
Riz
Perhaps also would be a better word than and if I understand you?
tony
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Mark,
On Monday, 4 May 2020 08:20:20 UTC+10, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Since your question seems to be mainly about documenting macros, why not
> put your macro definitions in a data tiddler. Then as you edit, if you need
> a reminder just type
>
> {{macs##mymacro1}}
>
> and see something like
>
>
are looking for :
>
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/TiddlyWiki/9-LcaC4mgtI/xVcVBHQNCQAJ
>
> On Saturday, May 2, 2020 at 8:42:17 PM UTC-5, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>> In support of the release of Stroll and for General use, I was wondering
>> if a
Mario
Thanks for your knowledgeable response. I have placed some question inline
with your comments. This will be a good opportunity to write some guidance
for others,
I think it depends, what your macros do. .. Eg. If they define global
> functionality, which is useful for every "user"
Mohammad
Thanks for your responce. How do you include groups or individual macros as
needed?
If we define global macros vs local it sounds like you are proposing mostly
local?
Your answers are very helpful to keep this clear, but I wonder about
performance?
thanks in advance
Tony
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Saq,
When something is hard to fix make it into a feature. :) I am not kidding.
Perhaps a replacement edit Button could be created to respond like bob
tiddlers pending save to the server do, an edit button that turns to a lock
on currentTiddler when the draft of exists?
Regards
Tony
On
:21:26 UTC+10, Birthe C wrote:
>
> TonyM,
>
> We have often been told, that people using Waterfox, Palemoon and other
> browsers, did use tiddlyfox. It would be good, if we knew exactly what
> other browsers to make examples in a possible rewrite.
>
> Others are using
All,
My point was to *add context to the instructions*. I am fine with No
JavaScript instructions, just say its "Wiki text and macro plugins" or what
ever you see fit. But so people know what it is talking about and the scope
of the instruction.
Regards
Tony
On Sunday, 3 May 2020 14:32:19
As I have said previously if you read about them on the internet, too many
times they refer to minimal, or trivial Quines.
I suspect the shine has gone off the concept because University lecturers
have pointed the trivial ones out.
Perhaps if you call it a non-trivial Quine, some may notice.
Mat/Birthe,
Here is a tiddler with my work in progress, self contained, works on
tiddlywiki.com
In this example you can see it operates by default on the children of the
currentTiddler (by tag) however you can provide a filter.
I am trying to build a universal basic solution.
`
\define
Folks,
This Question is for the more advanced TiddlyWiki user.
*The Many Macros Question - design and performance*
I am hard at work on a large wiki with many macros driving its operation.
As I hope to generalise my code I am calling for any advice on your
practices with managing lots of
Mario
By tag set I mean the set of tiddlers so tagged.
I have already done 90% of a solution, I am just trying to make it as easy to
use and flexible as possible.
There are a few possibilities that have opened up over the last few releases
with order operators etc...
I would still like to
Mohammad,
Presumably this project is about using javascript functions building
plugins?
As you may know it is quite easy to build "plugins" without javascript,
basically as plugin packages, I am working on multiple methods to do this
in the single file wikis and there are lots of
To all,
Does anyone really use tiddlyfox in a backdated version of the browser
rather than use the new superior Timimi ?
The minimum reference to the apocalypse, which we recovered from, we are
"post apocalypse", would be wise, I am always needing to tell people about
Timimi because
d
> for me when I realized what was happening!
>
> Are there any published guidelines and best practices for writing plugins?
> And similarly for understanding the Tiddlywiki internals/APIs (in addition
> to the helpful link you provided about InfoMechanism)?
>
> On Sat, May 2, 20
Folks,
In support of the release of Stroll and for General use, I was wondering if
anyone has made a
Next /Prev in "Tag Set" button?
- Tabs (using tags) and Tags can have an order,
- a button that, given such a tag name, could take the current tiddler
and jump to the next or
David,
This looks very nice and bravo on the documentation. Its a work of art.
Can I assume all the conversations about Roam and Tiddlybink are
incorporated into Stroll so I do not need to work through those extensive
threads?
Since working through the Tutorial I found references to the
Hugo,
Doing what you ask may not be straight forward but here are a few leads,
pending other input;
- The [[Sniif
plugin|https://tiddlywiki.com/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Ftiddlywiki%2Fbrowser-sniff]]
kan test which browser you are using which could be used to identify device.
- Your
Jeremy,
This sounds wonderful, and to achieve it you have introduced additional
functionality. It looks like much of this below is possible already, I am
just voicing my desires.
Your output continues to astound me.
- I hope these can be used independently such as the zip method
Tony,
Thanks for sharing back to the community. I was just reviewing it and
discovered it has a dependency on the mono theme.
I have not seen this before and its quite unusual. Personaly I do not use
the mono theme so this means I can't use this?
Can you find a way to remove this dependency?
Tony,
You need to be more specific, simple workarounds exist in this thread that
are just the way you use it. I think you need to state exactly what you are
looking for.
Regards
Tony
On Sunday, 3 May 2020 08:38:09 UTC+10, Tony K wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I am trying to accomplish the same. anyone
Riz,
Just testing and setting backup paths etc... in Chrome now along with my
existing FireFox usage. Its very cool and efficient thanks a lot.
I have set the tower of Hanoi backups to the same location in both
browsers. Is this advisable or should I use different backup folders?
Regards
Tony
Jeremy
I will revisit again but I had timimi, node and tiddlyserver and others with
this working.
I believe what is critical is the browser opens the html file and sees it is
declared as html in its header. Regardless of the use of another extension I
believe its working is demonstration of
Tony
Without knowing your actual needs.
Do search this forum for outliner a few have being made over the years.
Twoutliner or twoutlier comes to mind.
Regards
Tony
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n't ever see the edit button if I put it inside that widget.
>
> On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 7:12:46 PM UTC-4, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Ed,
>>
>> If you are going to Role your own, this simple tip may help.
>>
>> View Template buttons are designed to operate on
Vaughn,
I cant answer your question but this is the kind of request that may make
more sense over here https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/tiddlywikidev
Place a link to you post there in this thread once completed.
Regards
Tony
On Saturday, 2 May 2020 09:30:08 UTC+10, Vaughn Papenhausen
Mat,
I really like what richlinks does, but I have not managed to get it working
in my own wiki, even in a empty.html. Installing from your demo site is a
"little Complex" and I am no doubt doing something wrong, however I am
trying to repackage it for an easier install. One reason is I would
y variations (as specifiable in, say, an
> alias field).
>
> -Springer
>
> On Thursday, April 23, 2020 at 7:51:26 AM UTC-4, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Peter,
>>
>> *Is there a way to make them NOT case sensitive? *good idea for an option
>>
>> Keep in
Mohammad,
Great Share and timely giving those interested in doing this.
Tony
On Saturday, 2 May 2020 05:25:14 UTC+10, Mohammad wrote:
>
> *Announcement: Simple TW Setup to Generate Static pages*
> *Status: stable*
> *Date: may 1st, 2020*
>
>
> The TW-StaticPages is a simple Tiddlywiki setup to
Riz,
Lots of good and important ideas. You possibly know this but if you edit
tiddlers in tiddlywiki.com you will get a link to the GitHub version. It is
possible there to submit document changes. Perhaps you could submit some of
the less controversial changes, and await some feed back on the
In this thread I speculate on using libraries for an equivalent indirectly of
include.
https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/tiddlywiki/r09agywts5I
Tony
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Post script. The files are where they are placed and the library tiddler in
your wiki points to. The files are all found below that address.
Tony
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As I understand it, although I am still learning, you publish it like you may
any other html. There is a header file you point to in a custom library tiddler
in you wiki, that contains the index url. The same location also stores all the
individual library items.
When you open the
Peter
Yes you could edit the current one. Or make a new one and hide the original.
It may be a little complex. I will look at it and share back. I like the idea
myself.
Unless someone else has done it already
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I agree,
Sometimes new users ask how to make a plugin and others want help with the toc.
But I think the concepts are the most Importiant for new and sophisticated
users.
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Its possible though not too strait forward. You could clone the tiddler(s)
involved in the excise button and customise them to your requirements. Basicaly
make a new excise button.
Alternativly use a tag during the excise and use a tag on the new tiddler to
present a custom view
gt;>
>> Hi Flibbles,
>>
>> I'd certainly use such a plugin! The perspective of retrieving data and
>> document chunks from XML with such powerful xpath-like filters is quite
>> exciting. Also I don't forget that XHTML is an XML instance...
>>
>> Don't hesitate
Tony K
I can give more details but if you make your own new tiddler button you can
just use text=<> to populate the text field with the
currentTiddler title.
Regards
Tony
On Thursday, 30 April 2020 21:33:15 UTC+10, Tony K wrote:
>
> ok i did it with a button (still testing) but it is
There are many ways to do what you ask, so many its hard to know where to
start. Its a very open Question.
It may depend on how you want to build, like selecting ingredients, or just
capturing changes.
The plugin tiddler repositories are libraries, see recent discussions in
the forum. However
Walt,
Using a automatically issues ID is wise in these circumstances, however I
have done work of fixed serial numbers for tiddler so Personal Message me
if you want to discuss.
I am not in favor of using such a large serial number as created date/time,
however the date can be transferred to
Mohammad,
Thanks very much for making this public, I expect eventually to make use of
it, but since Ido not use github much and node implementations so much in a
sophisticated way there is a learning curve.
I was wondering if you can see a way to generate libraries from a filter on
top of the
Reid,
Love your work and thanks for the update.
I noticed the alert when a Tiddler is already in the story river, I would
love to see this as an independent plugin or incorporated into the core.
I will revisit your DropBooard soon in detail. I will also promote its
features again, I recall
Mikesch
I continue to look for a possible solution for you (and me), I remember
this feature in TWC, and I have wanted such a solution for some time
myself. If that is how you have designed your wiki its hard to go without
such a feature. Although since adoption TW5 I admit it has not being
Unfortunately I cant view the video (yet)
Tony
On Friday, 1 May 2020 01:10:09 UTC+10, Edgaras wrote:
>
> Hello *Miha*, thanks for joining the discussion here!
>
> *Miha* and *Tony*, let me reply to you a bit later ;)
>
> For now I wanted to share with you a quick prototype in vanilla JS I put
Ed,
If you are going to Role your own, this simple tip may help.
View Template buttons are designed to operate on the current tiddler. So if
you transclude them allowing it to operate on the current tiddler they work.
{{||$:/core/ui/Buttons/edit}}
So if you generate a list and include this
Anjar,
If you installed a trash bin plugin the delete would actually only be a
change if that helps.
This may not solve your deletes issue but there is a macro you may be
interested in https://tiddlywiki.com/#changecount%20Macro%20(Examples)
It works for each tiddler title and counts the
Edgaras
I forgot to add. With an association and command line options I can add an
option on html files to open with, rather than the default browser, however I
have also used a .tw extension which if sent to a browser, and I expect
tiddlydesktop it still opens as it is defined as html
Edgaras
Yes different but the same because if you do use more than one you do need a
way to get into the manager. If you can make an icon or command line to open
the default you get your default wiki.I Actualy launch tiddlydesktop in startup
sometimes so my first click opens my key wiki.
Icolas
Thanks for sharing this nice clean and easy to use tool. I like how it is macro
driven which gives a lot of choice.
I tried it on mobile first and I love the fact I can type and hit enter to
create a new item. I would love to do this in my own solutions however there
may be value
Thanks saq, tony
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JWHoneycutt ,
Slightly off topic "Generating single File Tiddlywiki's for publishing"
Another approach for you to "generate" a tiddlywiki to save in a public
location from you master personal wiki is the reasonably new Innerwiki
plugin. You can determine which tiddlers in the current wiki will
Edgaras
I am not aware of one, I would like a command line option to "Open With"
TiddlyDesktop as well. TiddlyDesktop runs on Windows, linux or Mac which
may explain why the command line is not more detailed.
Jeremy is the creator and I raised this issue here
Pieter-Michiel,
A quick answer is to use the browsers developer tools and inspect to find
out which style is used in the desired element then advanced search for its
definition in tiddlywiki, most likely in one of it or the themes stylesheet.
Regards
Tony
On Thursday, 30 April 2020 05:12:03
Alexie;
The Alias Plugin can let you create these as alias and another way is to
use a case insensitive search to find all tiddlers containing each of the
above.
However I advise the adoption of standard writing practices should not
result in your need to do this. Another method is to always
Tom,
There are a number of ways the IFTTT can interact and same for tiddlywiki,
depending on how IFTTT can access it. If you tiddlywiki online you can
access content via a URL (see tiddler permalinks), if you have static pages
you can access html pages. TiddlyWiki can use a URL top open it
David,
I do not think you need to revert to html to do this but neither am I clear
on what the result is you want so not sure how to share.
People do find this automatic `p` tag difficult, but I do not notice
anymore with other methods used.
Regards
Tony
On Thursday, 30 April 2020 01:21:59
They did not work,
I will see if I can find a work around. But it should be somewhere in your
email client.
Regards
Tony
On Thursday, 30 April 2020 12:36:01 UTC+10, TonyM wrote:
>
> Peter,
>
> FYI: I spend all day on the forum and dont both with email
> https://groups.google.co
Peter,
FYI: I spend all day on the forum and dont both with
email https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/tiddlywiki
Try using the back tick surrounding text
`test `
If I am wrong the above wont look like code.
This is another experiment
Regards
Tony
On Thursday, 30 April 2020 02:27:39
Mat,
Very timely
The Big Picture, Good Work, I will scour it for material but a lot of new
users will benifit from it. Thanks
On the Matter of Quines,
Most examples in the wild are Trivial Quines.
To me the single file model proves it. You use tiddlywiki (that app) to
save itself, the
Ron.
Yes Publish, Publish, Publish.
Tony
On Thursday, 30 April 2020 05:15:56 UTC+10, Rob Hoelz wrote:
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> I really like the editor toolbar button triggered by control-L - by
> default it shows the search sidebar page and clicking on a tiddler there
> pastes a link to that tiddler. I've
J
Thanks for Sharing, I love the idea of the option being inside the editor.
- But may I ask its not full screen is it? Its more like a single
tiddler edit mode!
- Also I like using Control Panel, Appearance, Theme Tweeks, Sidebar
layout, set to Fluid Story, Fixed side bar
Tony
You have discovered the ease of editing one tiddler from another by using a
transclude, and how tiddlers and fields can be silently created just by
editing them
it is quite an elegant solution. Thanks for sharing back
I think I may extend your idea. On any tiddler we could have a Today
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