Forgot to say i did replace my own SBT's with raspi with a digi+ HAT and
one HAT DAC board forgat what it was ..
So i can use 2 squeezelite instances as players and uppsampling in
software etc and soem other stuff i wanted to experiment with .
So with a PI you can fool around with a lot of
celo wrote:
> I keep coming back asking this question.
>
> Is there anything better than SBT currently? The technology has improved
> a lot so there must be something better, right? No?
>
> I didnt do a big changes/tries but I couldnt really tell any
> difference between SBT, Allo Digione,
Havent tried that with my Touch . Radio or Boom silenced the speakers
when a headphones where plugged in .
Unsure if Touch do mute the other outputs with headphones in.
Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621
Your AV receiver does not have optical in ??
One basic test is if you can see any light in the optical out ?
Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x
MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2
Must be some electrical and/or mechanical problem . All outputs are
active at the same time digitla coax opto analog and headphones
Did you try the optical output ?
Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621
sgmlaw wrote:
> These WAV bandwidth and storage arguments are so 2003. Anyone having an
> issue moving a WAV stream around wirelessly in 2019 needs to get a new
> router.
>
> Most of these audio file formats and their resulting streams are a
> trickle compared to even a 1080i file video
Recoveryone wrote:
> I would agree, I just didn't want to start a new thread needlessly. The
> debate on quality sound from the master recording to Vinyl, CD, or
> Digital d/l will always be subjective to individual taste and equipment
> being used to listen to any recording. But in the end, a
Recoveryone wrote:
> I know this is an old thread, but I didn't want to start another thread
> needlessly. I often read about the issues that happen with LMS and dying
> units, but I would like to show how this unit shines when working
> properly working. This is a sample of my 2 channel setup;
Hit here i got good resultat with a violeöectric ha v90 .
http://violectric-usa.com/headphone-amplifiers
These have RCA pastrough , solves you conection problem .
And gain settings via jumpers and are really good Amps .
Try FLAC ?
My experience with Touch is that , your lucky if 24/96 works on wifi
without some dropouts now and then . Innthe end i wired the Touch ( and
the server is ofcourse wired )
Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J
It also depends on the encoder/decoder . Use lame then your safe .
But Im getting old too maybe the oldest buggiest encoders are out of
active use , but if you have an very old file it could have been done
with bad encoder .
Power supply? Loose connection to or from the supply? Check the
connector into the Touch
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MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel
Its worth mentioning that you can easily transcode wav to flac and vice
versa no actuall need to rerip.
However if you have no tags at all ( ripping to wav with old windows
media player for example ).
There are probably mass tagging possibilities in some software . So
rerip can be faster if the
Stratmangler wrote:
> It would help.
> The wireless adapter isn't up to handling sample rates above 96kHz.
I would say even with 24/96 and whithout EDO i finaly decided to wire my
players except the radio
Main hifi: Touch
toby10 wrote:
> Your issue is unlikely related to EDO. More likely your network or
> transcoding or LMS issue or ISP throttling. WiFi should not be
> struggling with 192k.
>
> As suggested by others, try the JB-Radio2 stream or find a 320k stream.
> Can you stream lossless music files from
It should always show something, its basically your library sorted by
the changed time stamps in the files with a limit on how many albums
thats shown . I have mine set so that the whole library shows in time
order .
Did a scan go wrong ? A complete rescan maybe ?
A small Intel NUC as an alternative to raspi , if you need higher
performance .
Note that modern hardware has very intellligent power scheduling ie use
the WOL ( Wake on lan ) and the server can be sleeping using very little
, and then come back to life when you want to use it .
WoL can also
There are powed usb drives and boxes for large 3,5 drives , by t they
are not so popular anymore
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MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100
Jefffrye wrote:
> I agree from the looks of it a usb hard drive is a bad idea. What about
> using a dedicated PC into a squeezebox touch?
>
> Thanks
A
Dedicated anything is better than Touch a raspi or for hi performance an
intel nuc.
Run the OS you fancy , no need for monitor or kyeboard
aubuti wrote:
> Thanks. I figured that was a relatively easy and inexpensive thing to
> try anyway. While I've got you here, these are the specs, right?
>
> 5V DC, 3A, 5.5mm OD, 2.5mm ID, center-positive
>
> I have a couple PSUs for SB2 and SB3/Classic lying around, but I think
> those are
slartibartfast wrote:
> How often do the players check the time? After a power outage I have
> seen incorrect time on my Radio until I reboot the device.
>
> Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
That i do not know :/ havent tried to wait it out
Yes the time comes from the server its currently connected to this
includes mysqueezebox.com .
So for user not running a local LMS , if the time is wrong check out
your mysb.com settings for time zone .
This can surprise folks running LMS on NAS boxes as one seldom checks
the time on those (
Perhaps the music gets transcoded to some low rate MP3 ?
The deezer plugin for LMS does it getting you the sq your subscription
merits ?
Is it only on the phone ?
What happens when using another player ?
Main hifi: Touch +
Why b Touch supports g .
But that sad for hirez streaming use Ethernet thats my experience too
.
You must be using the EDO app , Touch normal native support is 24/96 and
then the server transcodes .
Another factor . Dont transcode to wav/pcm use flac it almost halves
the bandwith need.
Jester wrote:
> Thanks MNYB
And here is the link to the instructions .
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?108561-Announce-Spotty-2-0-0-Spotify-Connect-for-your-Squeezebox
Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG
To Get spotify :
Run the latest local LMS server for example 7.9.1
Remove all current spotify apps and plugins ( on mysb.com and local LMS
server ).
Install the spotty plugin .
Yes you need to run a local oms server.
Main
Koelboy wrote:
> they were listening to DACs fed by computers and heard that new, modern
> mini devices of this century might render said computer superfluous, but
> are quickly being disappointed. At least this one :)
Yeh but use a raspberry PI as server ( and possibly also as player that
bpa wrote:
> It was not an afterthought - the expectation was there from the
> beginning based on the fact at the time LMS was running on devices such
> as Linksys NSLU2 (266MHz, 32Mb ram). However, development took longer
> than expected, as all parts of system didn't perform as well as
>
drmatt wrote:
> Processor power and available RAM. There's hardly any ram, that's the
> biggest issue wet stability. It's also stuck with an ancient version of
> LMS.
>
>
> -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk-
.. and no web-UI and no plugins and its slooow and scaning is slooow
and
Touch and SB3 has the same dc barrel connector and both use 5v supply .
So if it works for Touch it works for SB3.
SB3 draws slighly less power
Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x
Touch should automatically find lms just by choosing my music.
You can add a local LMS via the add remote library function just put
in its ip adress ( you have to use static ip to make this reliable ) but
thats a workaround for if you somehow broke the autodiscovery function ,
typically a
No it wont hurt the Touch .
In fact i ran one of mine with a 2A supply for a long time but i assumed
that if i did not use the USB or analog it did not matter much
Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621
Suppose you go to mysqueezebox.com and you can do changes there in the
slacker app ?
Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x
MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3
What are you running LMS on ?
An easy check regarding readability is to try to browse down in the
folder structure on the drive while you are settng it up for use in LMS
if you cant even see any subfolders , this suggest some permission issue
?
If you collect minute details , the Classic Remote has the brigthness
button .
It was used for ofcourse brightness on an SB2 or SB3 . But also to
initiate firmware update with older versions of SB2/SB3 firmware , later
firmware had a setting for auto update of fw . I *think* this turned
into a
You can just turn off SSH from the Touch screen when not using it .
And some security software and security people consider any open SSH
device insecure so simply turning of SSH migth "fix" it for you .
There is no other update mechanism than the logitech provided firmware
updates which are not
A *.txt is much smaller
Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x
MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3
sub.
Bedroom/Office: Boom
Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex
Yes 7.9.1 is recomended
Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x
MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3
sub.
Bedroom/Office: Boom
Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex
Tryt he new spotty plugin as Spotify has diskontinued the stuff that
supported the old plugins and apps for Spotify .
Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x
MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2
Yes some services can be limited to 500 anyway , even if up the playlist
limit in your LMS server . I use 4000 and currently see no performance
issues .
Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x
iPeng 9 !
Classic is for older devices why cant run the latest iOS
Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x
MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3
sub.
slartibartfast wrote:
> The interesting thing is that the ifi power supply does not appear to be
> a linear power supply. It has an input voltage range of 100V to 240V
> which is impossible for a linear supply.
>
> https://ifi-audio.com/portfolio-view/accessory-ipower/
>
>
> Sent from my
chown = change owner .
sudo = substitute user do .
The $USER variable will take the value of the user you are currently
logged in as when you press "ENTER".
So you changed the owner ship of the dir to whatever user you signed in
as "sudo" , you entered a password .
For some reason the file
Ok enjoy not the error I expected :)
then you found two other old issues .
Touch do play native ALAC but it's buggy one error is that it only
handles 16/44.1 alac not 24/96 .
And that bitrate displays is bogus it's just a place holder 705kbps is
the typical rate for 16/44.1 .
For some odd
Yes Touch do 24/96 FLAC or WAV/PCM natively .
I'd suggest you use flac or let the server encode to flac if your files
are wav alac or aiff .
It's default setup to do this but check your settings .
That said 24/96 over wifi can be a close shave if it works good for you
otherwise get wired . It
And edo disbales the analog out to make 192k and USB possible . But you
can simply remove it if you dont need any of its features .
There are other mods that potentially can disable the screen , but all
this should go waya with the factory reset anyway afaik ?
I've said this before modern consumer electronics is generally not made
to be repaired .
BOM of the unit is probably less than 10 minutes of someones time , and
the design with ic and smd's are not easy.
So during warranty you get a new unit for whatever fault.
And no one has to train anyone or
it is possible to load a new image on the toucj from SD card , but that
needs the screen :-/
Also does it connect over ethernet ? if your lucky the previus owner
used ethernet and it may pick up an ip adress over dhcp ?
Oh well you did the factory reset ? wonder if its able to connect via
it can be such simple thing as the DNS settings in the Touch if you
don't use DHCP on it .
If you once setup ethernet manually on it you coul just review its
current settings ?
Usually one setup the routers ip as DNS , but if the routers base adress
is changed ? its easy to forget .
IP
Does iPeng see LMS ? Or does safari see the LMS web-UI .
In iPeng you must first choose which LMS , but it should pickup aviable
LMS servers , so just select the one you want .
I also recommend you buy the new iPeng 9 ? If you got the old 32 bit
version .
garym wrote:
> correct. One must have EDO installed to use the Touch USB as an audio
> *output*.
>
> daleyb...are you sure you have the volume equal when comparing the touch
> and the CD player. Even very small differences in volume (louder) can
> make one source sound "better"
Having the
I meant the LMS performance Touh sounds like usual just like when you
using LMS on something else.
If you ever get it to work it will probably crash while trying to scan
menus will be very slow , no web UI no plugins.
Imagine it will be slow with the smartphone apps too ?
You probably save time
You dont want to attach a drive directly to Touch , the performance is
appaling :) get a raspi to run the server on .
Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x
MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2
Do you use iTunes integration at the same time as pointing LMS to
directories where the files are ?
Don't set the playlist directory the same as the music file directory in
LMS . Make a special folder for playlists .
All the m3u or cue files you may have created in each album is a
playlist ,
Is this a single file and cue sheet ?
Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x
MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3
sub.
Bedroom/Office: Boom
Kitchen: Touch +
Rad Bennett wrote:
> I'll go through the list again...but I thought I caught the specific one
> that does that. Now, when I add titles to iTunes it causes a rescan.
> I'm surely going to check out the Mondo + when it comes in for review.
>
> Is there a setting NOT in the plug ins that could
Rad Bennett wrote:
> I thought I was OK and the software was set so that it just looked fro
> changes every morning at 4 am. But no, suddenly it's off starting a scan
> everytime I make even a tiny change to the library. There has to be a
> way to stop it. i'm going to look at Grace Digital's
garym wrote:
> hmmm. Weird. What do you mean by "switching libraries". Don't you only
> have one library (your LMS music server)? And why are you downloading
> LMS if you already have LMS installed and running?
>
> Have you done this yet?
>
> 1. turn off everything, computer, unplug SBT and
daleyb wrote:
> O.K. perhaps completely off the mark here, But as part of the "home
> Improvements" had a new Consumer unit mains fuse box fitted (17th
> edition 2006/U.K.) For Safety Regs. seeing This gives RCD Cut off,
> (handy if I cut my hedge cut the cable etc..)...I was thinking, seeing
>
daleyb wrote:
> tried the reset/ on/off plug route...No Joy.I think Drmatts closer to
> the problem. I did download a anti-virus program (AVG-FREE) Recently, So
> maybe a firewalls kicked in thats caused it..?, But if LMS is already
> running maybe thats not the answer.
>
> When I did a Reset
Notice when you upgrade to 7.9.0 it probably kicked of a rescan due to
some necessary changes .
Did you let it finish or did you press abort ?
Auto rescan is plugin LMS does not do this normally . Do you have this
plugin ?
You can schedule scans to this way.
It may not have finished the rescan
I used to be very ancius about this , but it's not as all important as
some think ( the audiophile thinking is that the sound is completely
destroyed if not bit perfect ) .
It can be beneficial for some dac to not get full volume but -3dB or
somesuch due to intersample clipping in oversampling
On topic it can sometimes be a point to keep it bitperfect HDCD if your
DAC handles that or DTS or AC3 coded WAV or FLAC inot a HT reciever or
if your just prefer to do all processing later in the chain
Main hifi: Touch + CIA
"yes"
it only at 100% volume you got a bitperfect output .
But SBT's volume control is operating at 24 bits . As an SBT always
outputs 24bit (even with a 16bit signal aka CD )
You can get analogue attenuators to put on the poweramps input , if you
use the SBT at reasonably high volume settings
This is a legit thing many years ago john svenson did design a psu for
squeezeboxes.
Time flies this may not be in everyones memory.
Usefullness meh ? but its not sunglasses or pills or phishing
Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS
Tidals own app or website ?
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MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3
sub.
Bedroom/Office: Boom
Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex
Oh did not see that do yourself a favor rip to a decent format FLAC or
ALAC if you must be apple compatible ( but would consider making a lossy
aac copy library for my iTunes and still use FLAC )
Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS
dBpoweramp ( not free but the its that good ).
Or EAC as mentioned Exact Audio Copy.
Both of these ate secure rippers that also uses the accurip database.
They can compare checksums of other rips of the same disc and can
statistically verify that your rip is bit perfect 100%
No errors at all.
You can use SSH and "reboot" command . Touch is a tiny linux computer so
many linux commands works on it.
Somewhere in the settings you activate the remote conection ( SSH ) .
Eas the default password 1234 ? ( i dont remember i always change those
) .
Then you use a suitable terminal on your
crazyj wrote:
> I struggled for a long time with this.
>
> Eventually I figured out that turning off "wake on pattern match" in my
> advanced NIC settings was the one thing that worked.
Afaik the thing you need and that squeezeboxes ( and derative software
players ) and some mobile
I think EDO enables 192k on spdiff ? But 24/96 is good enough for human
consumption forever .
You can always invent better formats but our hearing abilities is the
same as ever ie modern formats exceed it with a wide margin.
I'd go with julfs suggestion getting the best master/version of a
When used Tidal hifi for a short while I found out that only
approximately 80% of the music was flac .
Some odd titles are/where not aviable as anything but MP3 regardless of
subscription.
Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS
Well ofcourse it sounds different :) otherwise Tidal marketing guys done
something wrong .
I would like to get my hands on some MQA tracks . Software decode them
them to 24/192 then convert them to 16/44.1 and do a DBT .
I've done similar things with my 24/96 and 24/192 Hd downloads and
DVDA's.
DanSmedra wrote:
> Have you ever considered being creative and moving your protest movement
> to your own thread?
>
> Or did you already try that and no one showed up?
>
> Just remember, Mother still loves you.
>
> 22095
Does it not bother you that most recordings going truogh the process is
Julf wrote:
> I am not really worried. I am pretty sure that MQA either goes down the
> same avenue as DVD-Audio (that was supposed to be the next big thing in
> hifi back in the day, and was based on, erm..., Meridian Lossless
> Packing by Bob Stuart and friends), or becomes a niche format that
Julf wrote:
> Thanks - it does make some good points.
>
> -"At the present time, I remain skeptical of the sonic advantages of MQA
> and even more skeptical of its commercial viability. There is no
> question that MQA degrades the quality of the audio for users who do not
> have an MQA
Works fine here ( Sweden ) .
It can be some glitch in regions , where are you and what is your
location in your mysqueezebox.com account .
Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x
avconv or ffmpeg gets installed on the machine that runs your local LMS
server .
The play HLS plugin is somewhere in the plugin tab in LMS .
You will be listening with the locla server , so its not possible with
mysb.com only
daleyb wrote:
> Correct , I meant coaxial digital link.
>
> Just out of interest then, How would you connect a USB FROM SBT TO DAC
> as Asynchronous .Which Output on the SBT would you use..?... I
> always thought the USB ON the SBT was INPUT ONLY.
>
> ps. I have NO 24/192 FILES anyway,
Adam speakers , they are really good ?
Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x
MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3
sub.
Bedroom/Office: Boom
Kitchen: Touch +
With moving he probably meant a shorter distance than that , with the
psu plugged in fallen ng off the shelf or just bending at the conector
while lifting it for dusting purposes or whatnot :)
Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS
Julf wrote:
> Where does the conversion from MQA take place?
In the Explorer DAC , it's like hdcd or dts , as long as you transfer
the file bitperfect , the downstream DAC sees the encoding and does it's
thing .
So basically mqa support already exist sort of .
Not on standard Touch , all outs are on all the time and all follows the
same volume
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MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3
bpa wrote:
> It's not the expensive stuff I'd worry about but the cheap bluetooth
> portable speaker where the circuit design is poor/minimal. When you look
> at the options
> (https://www.maximintegrated.com/en/app-notes/index.mvp/id/4803 ) then
> it is clear many things can go wrong.
That was
bpa wrote:
> I would advise caution.
>
> AFAICT in theory it is possible but we don't have have circuit details.
> If circuit designed very conservatively then battery could charge very
> slowly. But - if battery to be charge is LiION there is a possibility
> battery may be damaged if not
Presambly the Touch .
Maybe just try , if it works it would be much slower , in my experience
phones do charge from USB ports when conected but not at all at the same
speed as the real charger .
And Touchs USB port is not particularly powerful , it fulfills spec .
But have problems with for
bert wemmenhove wrote:
> I logged in to my old account, but where can I delete itself ?
> When I delete it , the adress will still be in the Touch isnt it ?
>
> greetings
Just delete the players for a start , then you can register it on your
new account .
Mardler wrote:
> Thanks, kids - didn't see that as I was typing the above but that's
> pretty well exactly what I did.
>
> Kind of surprising that when MySB was down SBT wouldn't connect to LMS
> (which obviously couldn't see MySB either).
It does not happen automatically if you where on
Basically the LMS server software must be running somewhere .
Either a conected PC or whatever ( raspi Mac mini unused laptop intel
nuc .. mini server . on and on ).
Or on th NAS itself . So a question is how to install LMS on the seagate
NAS google that !
Touch itself has a
Is not DoP the mechanism we have ? Thats what we have over spdiff ?
Then there is differbt rates of dsd 64,128 or more i would gues without
knowing that the faster rates are probably not supported especially on
dop over 24/192
and is your mysqueezebox.com acount configured on your local LMS
server , there is a tab in the settings for that
Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x
MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC
sckramer wrote:
> Hi Mnyb,
>
> I tried it out on a pi:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xm_wWXhqO4
>
> It does actually kill the light on the pi/piCorePlayer/Digi+, the coax
> is disabled also. (The touch does neither)
>
> OP: search old posts, we've
But even then it migth not actually stop the light ?
In the toslink/spdiff standard there is some kind of idle signal IE
light and carrier wave is still on , correctly designed equipment detect
this as no sound , but some DAC's and recievers simplistically uses the
light itself as an indicator
mherger wrote:
> > In reality internet dependent devices keep Times' better . My
> > squeezeboxes have showed the correct time for decades .
>
> I dare say this is a tiny little bit exaggerated :-).
>
> --
>
> Michael
Decade and s to much :/ I think my sb3 arrived 2006 . And I don't live
in
In reality internet dependent devices keep Times' better . My
squeezeboxes have showed the correct time for decades .
The Touch only shows the servers time or whatever your timezone is on
mysqueezebox.com if you ar conected there .
That can not be said about my micro wave etc that blinks 12:00 or
Rotating ward/leonard style suplies :)
An ac motor with a flywheel conected to a DC generator onnthe same shaft
. The contraption could be mounted on a half ton plinth with rubber
feets . Standing in your basement .
Deluxe model with large ac motor with several dc generators on common
shaft for
stereoptic wrote:
> I've replaced the power supply and I am still having issues with the
> touch screen. It doesn't matter that much to me because I have become
> accustomed to using the remote or a wifi device to control the
> Squeezebox Touch.
>
> However, occasionally while using the
You install LMS on the iMac ofcourse.
And no transcoding when running LMS on the Touch so no APE support
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MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2
chopinhauer wrote:
> Going back to the original question, I too would like to plug an
> external HD with over 1TB of music into the usb port of the Touch.
>
> My situation is that I am moving from running all my music from a a
> large HDD on my PC running LMS to what? That's the question. The
Fizbin wrote:
> Just thought I'd bring this old thread back for this question...
>
> I'm still using a crossover cable to connect my Touch with my PC. It's
> nice not having to bother with a router. Anyway, I was thinking about
> buying a Transporter as well. I happen to have a couple extra
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