Re: [TruthTalk] CAN WE ELIMINATE WOMEN FROM THIS FORUM?

2004-05-02 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/1/2004 5:55:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, but don't forgetYOU ARE WHAT YOU ARE, Elsman.and you may not be what you think you are. Time will tell. Dave -- here's the plan. Elsman does this pretend prophesy thing about this group and his

Re: [TruthTalk] We do not base what we believe on what others teach????

2004-05-02 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/1/2004 6:47:35 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bingo! Is the problem, then, not that Daniel reproduced but that his parents did? John I like it when I am right. J

[TruthTalk] Elsman, I must apologize

2004-05-02 Thread Daniel Lee
Elsman, Apparently diaper john has now said that I am your boy. I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS, ELSMAN. I am deeply sorry that these sinners would say that I am your son. Please, try not to take offence. :) In YahShua and defending His Torah, Daniel J. Lee - Romans 3:31 - Faith

Re: [TruthTalk] The Outer Limits

2004-05-02 Thread Daniel Lee
Not that I could even hope to match the wittiness of Bro Chris' post, but I was just reminded by his statements of Master Yoda's words from the Empire Strikes Back: DO OR DO NOT. THERE IS NO TRY. So many of you anti-holiness people on this forum say, we TRY to obey Jesus. Diaper John

Re: [TruthTalk] An appeal to Daniel to ignore Perry's plea

2004-05-02 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/1/2004 8:05:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh Hey Danny Boy, part of me says, "Ignore Perry altogether." Really. And the reason is almost redundant -- as long as you act like an idiot, your

Re: [TruthTalk] Longsuffering is a fruit of the Spirit

2004-05-02 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/1/2004 6:46:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DAVEH: Do cats EVER worry about what others think? The man has done his homework -- and a good post it is. John

Re: [TruthTalk] Longsuffering is a fruit of the Spirit

2004-05-02 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/1/2004 6:46:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That fearsome punishment allows them (to their way of thinking) that anything short of being that inhumane allows them enough latitude to go to extreme measures almost as bad in order to persuade somebody not

Re: [TruthTalk] Terry et al

2004-05-02 Thread Knpraise
Terry: What is your thinking about water baptism? Lance: would you seend me the rest of that quote - private might be best. Izzy: Adventist? I remember the days when 7th Day Adventists were considered a cult. And today, they are accepted by the larger Christian community. Some of my

[TruthTalk] Shabbat Shalom Report: 5/1/04

2004-05-02 Thread Daniel Lee
Glory unto YahShua, even YHVH who rules over all the earth!!! HallaluYAH!!! What an extremley restful Shabbat -- and so electrified with the Ruach ha Kadosh!!! WE began last night, as the sun set, with contending for the faith on the internet. One 20 year old female who professed to be a

Re: [TruthTalk] Shabbat COVERING OF FEMALE HEADS?

2004-05-02 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/2/2004 3:18:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Annika and I were able to minister to a young 13 year old girl and we convinced her of the need for females to cover their heads per I Corinthians 11. We also showed to her that the jewish kippah was pagan.

Re: [TruthTalk] Shabbat COVERING OF FEMALE HEADS?

2004-05-02 Thread Lance Muir
Elsman:How long have human beings been on planet earth? Lance - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: May 02, 2004 04:42 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Shabbat COVERING OF FEMALE HEADS? In a message dated 5/2/2004 3:18:11 AM

[TruthTalk] Covering of women's heads? Ridiculous.

2004-05-02 Thread Arsene Lupin
Ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous. There is no point in any way shape or form other than practical use to have women cover their heads. Save perhaps for a few men who fear rightly so that women might have been able to speak up and show the male-dominated priesthood wrong. Oooh perish the

Re: [TruthTalk] Covering of women's heads? Ridiculous.

2004-05-02 Thread Lance Muir
Amen sister! Everyone on TT continues to demonstrate the POWER OF TRADITION to inform thinking and, by extension communication. I just read the Bible under the Spirit's guidance then I do/teach it's meaning. This, sisters and brothers, is approximately how every one of the now tens of thousands of

Re: [TruthTalk] Covering of women's heads? Ridiculous.

2004-05-02 Thread Arsene Lupin
Lance: Amen sister! Everyone on TT continues to demonstrate the POWER OF TRADITION to inform thinking and, by extension communication. TPW: Erhm...I am a man. But yes...The power of a man-made tradition is the problem with many of the variants of Christianity I have encountered in my time. It

Re: [TruthTalk] Terry et al

2004-05-02 Thread Terry Clifton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Terry: What is your thinking about water baptism? Lance: would you seend me the rest of that quote - private might be best. Izzy: Adventist? I remember the days when 7th Day Adventists were considered a cult. And today, they are accepted by the larger

[TruthTalk] Shabbat COVERING OF FEMALE HEADS?

2004-05-02 Thread Judy Taylor
How ironic - the the pot calls the kettle black.Elsman you are knit picking about rebellious women and head coverings when the example you have set on TT has been arrogance and rebellion personified. I have seen the moderater and others ask you to tone down the rhetoric and not to write in

Re: [TruthTalk] Terry et al

2004-05-02 Thread LaurHamm
In a message dated 5/2/2004 2:11:22 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Izzy: Adventist? I remember the days when 7th Day Adventists were considered a cult. And today, they are accepted by the larger Christian community. Some of my favorite customers on Adventists -- full of

[TruthTalk] Offence Given/Offence Taken???

2004-05-02 Thread Judy Taylor
Are you addressing anyone in particular Lance, or the whole list? I'm not offended with anyone personally even though I do challenge the focus of some on "the incarnation" and believe it is out of balance. As for Daniel and Elsman, no point in being offended by them. Their mouths betray

[TruthTalk] Terry et al (Sects)

2004-05-02 Thread Judy Taylor
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Izzy: Adventist? I remember the days when 7th Day Adventists were considered a cult. And today, they are accepted by the larger Christian community. Some of my favorite customers on Adventists -- full of grace and concern for others and

Re: [TruthTalk] Covering of women's heads? Ridiculous.

2004-05-02 Thread Lance Muir
TPW: Erhm..CORRECTION Amen Brother! When I was younger I knew more. Information is plentiful but, wisdom is in short supply. Blessings, Lance - Original Message - From: Arsene Lupin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: May 02, 2004 08:11 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Covering of

RE: [TruthTalk] Why women are excellent teachers.

2004-05-02 Thread ShieldsFamily
No wonder you are called the Pagan WOLF. :-) Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Arsene Lupin Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 8:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Why women are excellent teachers. Izzy: TPW, You are my

Re: [TruthTalk] 'It is finished'

2004-05-02 Thread Chris Barr
\o/ !HALALU Yah! \o/ Greetings David et al in the Matchless Name of YahShua ! - Original Message - From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04/21/2004 9:29 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] 'It is finished' Chris wrote: The old song says, "He paid a debt I could not pay".

Re: [TruthTalk] Shabbat COVERING OF FEMALE HEADS?

2004-05-02 Thread Terry Clifton
Well stated Judy. Terry Judy Taylor wrote: How ironic - the the pot calls the kettle black.Elsman you are knit picking about rebellious women and head coverings when the example you have set on TT has been arrogance and rebellion personified. I have seen the moderater and others ask

RE: [TruthTalk] The LOWer Limits

2004-05-02 Thread ShieldsFamily
Chris, You can change that to read The LOWER Limits. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Barr Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 10:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [TruthTalk] The Outer Limits \o/ !HALALU Yah! \o/

[TruthTalk] Score 1 for Lance!

2004-05-02 Thread Chris Barr
\o/ !HALALU Yah! \o/ Greetings in the Matchless Name of YahShua ! - Original Message - From: "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05/02/2004 8:16 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Covering of women's heads? Ridiculous. TPW: Erhm..CORRECTION Amen Brother! When I was younger I

RE: [TruthTalk] Terry et al

2004-05-02 Thread ShieldsFamily
John, If you are asking if Im an Adventist, the answer is nope. Seems they have some fringy beliefs so Ive not even looked into them. Just non-denominational. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 1:11 AM

RE: [TruthTalk] Shabbat COVERING OF FEMALE HEADS?

2004-05-02 Thread ShieldsFamily
Elsman, We are all still waiting to hear from your wifes answers to my questionnaire. Why havent to know-it-all cave men unchained their women so they can drag themselves to the computer to speak up for what wonderful husbands you all are Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [TruthTalk] Shabbat Shalom Report: 5/1/04

2004-05-02 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Daniel, what is your line of work? Your 9-5. Your chosen career field? Perry From: Daniel Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [TruthTalk] Shabbat Shalom Report: 5/1/04 Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 00:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Glory unto YahShua, even YHVH who rules

[TruthTalk] Izzy: It cannot be helped.

2004-05-02 Thread Arsene Lupin
Izzy: No wonder you are called the Pagan WOLF. :-) TPW: I can't help it...It's that accursed French accent of mine...I could be reading the ingredients off a can of beans and American women just melt... I guess the preacher who named me so the first time had perhaps more insight than he

RE: [TruthTalk] Izzy: It cannot be helped.

2004-05-02 Thread ShieldsFamily
TPW: Anyone so interested in love can't help but eventually melt into love with Jesus. I also find it interesting that you, an outsider can so clearly point out the hypocrisy of those on TT who claim to represent the Word. Of course, even a blind man could do that, but you at least know many of

RE: [TruthTalk] Shabbat Shalom Report: 5/1/04

2004-05-02 Thread ShieldsFamily
Dungeon master? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Perry Locke Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 7:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Shabbat Shalom Report: 5/1/04 Daniel, what is your line of work? Your 9-5. Your chosen

[TruthTalk] Teaching

2004-05-02 Thread Judy Taylor
Lance Muir writes: Whether we opine, quote scripture, explicate scripture, quote a book, quote each other with following comment/critique etc. WE ARE ALL TEACHING. Thus, should one collect all the posts from all the participants from TT's inception 'til now we would have THE TEACHING

Re: [TruthTalk] Offence Given/Offence Taken???

2004-05-02 Thread Terry Clifton
Judy Taylor wrote: As for Daniel and Elsman, no point in being offended by them. Their mouths betray what is in their hearts and this is what defiles the man (Mark 7:20), Richest in Christ, judyt

Re: [TruthTalk] Teaching

2004-05-02 Thread Lance Muir
JT: A very "christianese"(sp?) response. Inside lingo. Just as a rose is a rose by any name so teaching is teaching.Is there an egalitarian in the house? Welcome to the 21st century and a correct biblical understanding of the unlimited role of women under God in the home, workplace and the

RE: [TruthTalk] Izzy: It cannot be helped.

2004-05-02 Thread Arsene Lupin
Izzy: Anyone so interested in love can't help but eventually melt into love with Jesus. I also find it interesting that you, an outsider can so clearly point out the hypocrisy of those on TT who claim to represent the Word. TPW: It's easy, after so many years you notice that some fall in

Re: [TruthTalk] Offence Given/Offence Taken???

2004-05-02 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Terry, and other TT'rs this will not go on indefinitely. Soon he will eaither clean up his messages, leave the list on his own, or be barred from the list. It is totally his choice, although I feel I know what he will choose. Perry the moderator. From: Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [TruthTalk] Teaching

2004-05-02 Thread Terry Clifton
Judy Taylor wrote: jt: I would'nt callthisa "teaching list" -I see it aplace tocommunicate and share with others who are interested in or a pilgrim on "the Way". Jesus said we should notcall anyone Rabbi (teacher); He said we have one Lord and the rest of us are brethren (Matthew

Re: [TruthTalk] Bible versions

2004-05-02 Thread Chris Barr
\o/ !HALALU Yah! \o/ Greetings David in the Matchless Name of YahShua ! - Original Message - From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04/21/2004 9:45 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Bible versions Chris wrote: My preference is the exegeses Bible. I have one here,

Re: [TruthTalk] Offence Given/Offence Taken???

2004-05-02 Thread Charles Perry Locke
I was thinking about what the chances are that Daniel will clean up his language and demeaning comments. At this point, it looks fruitless. But, I was thinking back to others who have done so, and it gives me hope for Daniel. For example, Chris, while never using the profanity that Daniel

[TruthTalk] Offence Given/Offence Taken???

2004-05-02 Thread Judy Taylor
What can I say Terry - You are right, Yesterday's fare wasn't so pleasant was it? but then I have to wonder if God is not using this to test us because of our own sin. Their charge ofhypocrisy is true, it is presentaside from them because when division is present to the point where we

RE: [TruthTalk] Offence Given/Offence Taken???

2004-05-02 Thread ShieldsFamily
I assume you are speaking for yourself here? Izzy -Original Message- I have a feeling if Daniel could control his anger that his posts would become welcomed on TT. Perry the Moderator

Re: [TruthTalk] Shabbat COVERING OF FEMALE HEADS?

2004-05-02 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/2/2004 5:38:06 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hubert Lindsey sounds insane (in the sense of being doubleminded) and full of fear. Why didn't he trust Jesus (as head of the Church) to be Lord over the people he was trying to pastor? There is just ONE

RE: [TruthTalk] Offence Given/Offence Taken???

2004-05-02 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Izzy, yes, I am speaking primarily for myself, but I feel that Daniel would become welcome in TT. Chris and Elsman, both of whom were not initially welcomed on this group, both have become welcomed, if not by all, by most. I gauge this by the fact that their posts evoke responses and they

[TruthTalk] Teaching

2004-05-02 Thread Judy Taylor
Lance, you are not hearing me. I am free to be me in the Lord. I've seen the fruit of those withreligious spirits such as Elsman and Daniel. I saw one "well meaning" but fearful man drive his wife right out of the home and today this family is fractured and living on both coasts and in

RE: [TruthTalk] Offence Given/Offence Taken???

2004-05-02 Thread ShieldsFamily
Perry, If he were speaking to your wife, how much patience would you have? Would you tell her to have patience? Would you expect her to leave if she didn't want to tolerate such vulgarity, or would you tell Daniel to leave? By the way, it occurs to me that if Daniel cleans up his language

RE: [TruthTalk] No limits on TT

2004-05-02 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Izzy, if I had wanted women off of this forum I would have said so a year ago last December when I first joined TT, and many times since then. It is pretty catty to imply things that you know aren't so and cannot substantiate. Daniel's opinions about women not being on the group, and Elsman's

RE: [TruthTalk] No limits on TT

2004-05-02 Thread Arsene Lupin
Izzy: TPW, Well I sure appreciate that you came to my rescue in a way, unlike our Moderator who seems to have no limits to the way the women here are being abused and the vile language allowed on this site. (Perhaps he prefers that the ladies to leave? How long should we tolerate this?) I'd

Re: [TruthTalk] Teaching

2004-05-02 Thread Lance Muir
JT: No Judy, I am hearing you and, I disagree.It is traditionnot God speaking against the full and complete participation of women in the home, workplace and church.Blessings, Lance [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: May 02, 2004 10:50 Subject: [TruthTalk] Teaching Lance, you are not hearing

RE: [TruthTalk] Offence Given/Offence Taken???

2004-05-02 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Izzy, I would instruct my wife in the use of the delete key. No one is making you read Daniels posts. Let me do the same for you. There is a key on your keyboard with the word Delete on it. Highlight any message that has Daniel Lee's name on it, then push this key. Problem solved. But, if he

Re: [TruthTalk] Offence Given/Offence Taken???

2004-05-02 Thread Terry Clifton
Perry: Referring to ladies as whores will get one kicked out of most churches, and even some bars. Why is Daniel allowed to trample the reputations of others here when he cannot do it in other places? Is there any reasonable answer? This has got to be controlled. If Daniel cannot control

[TruthTalk] Teaching

2004-05-02 Thread Judy Taylor
Ok You may be hearing me Lance but you are not understanding. I think you are the one with the traditional mindset rather than me. I am all for the full and complete participation of women in Church, home, and even the workplace (if this istheir choice); I believe in the woman being a man's

Re: [TruthTalk] Teaching

2004-05-02 Thread Lance Muir
JT: Yes we can. Lance - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: May 02, 2004 11:23 Subject: [TruthTalk] Teaching Ok You may be hearing me Lance but you are not understanding. I think you are the one with the traditional mindset

Re: [TruthTalk] Daniel Has Support----the Mouths of the Women Convict Them

2004-05-02 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/2/2004 11:15:08 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Izzy, I would instruct my wife in the use of the delete key. No one is making you read Daniels posts. Let me do the same for you. There is a key on your keyboard with the word "Delete" on it. Highlight

Re: [TruthTalk] Offence Given/Offence Taken???

2004-05-02 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Terry, I am working on a solution to Daniel's bratty childlike behavior. Hang in there, and vote with your delete key. Perry the Moderator From: Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Offence Given/Offence Taken??? Date: Sun,

Re: [TruthTalk] Daniel Has Support----from another MCP!!

2004-05-02 Thread Arsene Lupin
Elsman the MCP: *content snipped due to the repetitive nature of his diarhea of the keyboard* Elsman, trying to counteract the effete men on this Forum, the same type of effete men that rule our mainline churches and allow the gay feminist culture to infiltrate, ever so subtly and slowly.

[TruthTalk] Daniel Has Support

2004-05-02 Thread Judy Taylor
Elsman writes:These women hereon are rebels, clucking away like the foam of waves upon the beach, signifying nothing. You need merely to read their posts. They should not be called whores, as that gets confusing, even though they worship Babylonian gods, and refuse the instruction of the

[TruthTalk] Offence Given/Offence Taken???

2004-05-02 Thread Judy Taylor
From: Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED]Perry:Referring to ladies as whores will get one kicked out of most churches,and even some bars. Why is Daniel allowed to trample the reputations ofothers here when he cannot do it in other places? Is there anyreasonable answer? This has got to be

[TruthTalk] This is Mrs. Chris Barr - I call him Tirshatha

2004-05-02 Thread Chris Barr
- Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04/30/2004 6:05 PM Subject: [TruthTalk] wimpy sorry "Men" Dear Izzy, Laura, and any other Women reading here: Brother Chris has invited me to prayerfully answer your questions here. I do not generally pursue

[TruthTalk] Shabbat COVERING OF FEMALE HEADS?

2004-05-02 Thread Judy Taylor
I know his claim about Billy Graham to be false; I guess Hubert Lindsey has become a modern day myth already and he has only been gone a little over a year. Selah! Judyt From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nothing holy about Hubert -- a man who claim to have converted Bill Graham, converted over 40.000

RE: [TruthTalk] Offence Given/Offence Taken???

2004-05-02 Thread Charles Perry Locke
For the mean time I have removed Daniel from the list. If he assures me that he can make posts without profanity and demeaning remarks, and demonstrates it, I would be willing to let him back on. This will require some degree of maturity on his part, and perhaps Chris can mentor him in that

Re: [TruthTalk] Daniel Has Support----the Mouths of the Women Convict Them

2004-05-02 Thread Lance Muir
Elsman: Could you step out of your pontifical chair and occupy a chair of mediationbriefly?. Pretend you're a lawyer.Pretend to represent a position not your own but that of your client. Would you be capable of making a convincing case? Have you done that professionally? Would you attempt

Re: [TruthTalk] Terry et al

2004-05-02 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/2/2004 5:39:54 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Good morning John: To be honest, I do not do a lot of thinking about water baptism, but I will try to answer as best I can. 1. Baptism is not required for salvation. The thief on the cross was not baptized

Re: [TruthTalk] Terry et al

2004-05-02 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/2/2004 5:52:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Izzy: Adventist? I remember the days when 7th Day Adventists were considered a cult. And today, they are accepted by the larger Christian community. Some of my favorite customers on Adventists -- full of

Re: [TruthTalk] Offence Given/Offence Taken???

2004-05-02 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/2/2004 6:03:47 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As for Daniel and Elsman, no point in being offended by them. Their mouths betray what is in their hearts and this is what defiles the man (Mark 7:20), so again it's the pot calling the kettle black; those

Re: [TruthTalk] Terry et al

2004-05-02 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/2/2004 6:29:53 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John, If you are asking if Im an Adventist, the answer is nope. Seems they have some fringy beliefs so Ive not even looked into them. Just non-denominational. Izzy Thank you. by the way -- my doctor son is

Re: [TruthTalk] Shabbat Shalom Report: 5/1/04

2004-05-02 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/2/2004 6:51:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dungeon master? Chuckle, chuckle. John

Re: [TruthTalk] Offence Given/Offence Taken???

2004-05-02 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/2/2004 7:02:28 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Judy Taylor wrote: As for Daniel and Elsman, no point in being offended by them. Their mouths betray what is in their hearts and this is what defiles the man (Mark 7:20), Richest in Christ, judyt

Re: [TruthTalk] Offence Given/Offence Taken???

2004-05-02 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/2/2004 7:09:04 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Terry, and other TT'rs this will not go on indefinitely. Soon he will eaither clean up his messages, leave the list on his own, or be barred from the list. It is totally his choice, although I feel I know

Re: [TruthTalk] Offence Given/Offence Taken???

2004-05-02 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/2/2004 7:33:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I assume you are speaking for yourself here? Izzy -Original Message- I have a feeling if Daniel could control his anger that his posts would become welcomed on TT. Perry the Moderator

[TruthTalk] 'ad hominem'

2004-05-02 Thread Chris Barr
\o/ !HALALU Yah! \o/ Greetings in the Matchless Name of YahShua ! I have seen no evidence at all on this forum that any here would recognize an 'ad hominem' if one walked right up and introduced itself. An ad hominem argument is one where the presenter is addressed rather than the

[TruthTalk] Hypocrisy -- the order of the day

2004-05-02 Thread Chris Barr
\o/ !HALALU Yah! \o/ Greetings in the Matchless Name of YahShua ! Daniel Lee's last 5 posts to TT contained no profanity or ad hominem. In the midst of those the moderator said if Daniel cleaned up his act then he would be welcome on TT. Daniel had already done so. The moderator

Re: [TruthTalk] Offence Given/Offence Taken???

2004-05-02 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/2/2004 8:20:18 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Perry: Referring to ladies as whores will get one kicked out of most churches, and even some bars. Why is Daniel allowed to trample the reputations of others here when he cannot do it in other places? Is

[TruthTalk] Daniel's line of work

2004-05-02 Thread Chris Barr
- Original Message - From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05/02/2004 8:36 AM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Shabbat Shalom Report: 5/1/04 Daniel, what is your line of work? Your 9-5. Your chosen career field? Perry - Original Message - From:

Re: [TruthTalk] Terry et al

2004-05-02 Thread Chris Barr
\o/ !HALALU Yah! \o/ Greetings in the Matchless Name of YahShua ! - Original Message - From: Terry Clifton To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05/02/2004 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Terry et al To be honest, I do not do a lot of thinking about water baptism, but I will try

Re: [TruthTalk] Terry et al

2004-05-02 Thread Chris Barr
\o/ !HALALU Yah! \o/ Greetings in the Matchless Name of YahShua ! - Original Message - From: Terry Clifton To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05/02/2004 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Terry et al To be honest, I do not do a lot of thinking about water baptism, but I will try

Re: [TruthTalk] Daniel Has Support---ELSMAN ATTACKS DANIEL

2004-05-02 Thread ELSMANLAW
DANIEL, SHAPE UP, OR I WILL HAVE A JEWISH MOULE PAY YOU A VISIT FOR AN EXTRA BRIS. YOU DON'T HAVE TO CALL THEM WHORES-TRY "GREAT BULLS OF BASHAM.", OR SOMETHING MORE ACCURATE. PLEASE TELL US ABOUT WHY CHRISTIANS SHOULD FOLLOW THE TORAH. I AM SINCERELY INTERESTED IF YOU FOLLOW ALL 613? (THAT

RE: [TruthTalk] This is Mrs. Chris Barr - I call him Tirshatha

2004-05-02 Thread ShieldsFamily
Connie, I appreciate your kind response, and also agree with your godly advice to women. There is nothing more pleasurable than spoiling a loving husband who treats you like a queen. My husband is hurt if I dont wait for him to open the car door for me, etc. He reads me to sleep if I

RE: [TruthTalk] Terry et al

2004-05-02 Thread ShieldsFamily
How wonderful! J From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 11:08 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Terry et al In a message dated 5/2/2004 6:29:53 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [TruthTalk] Terry et al

2004-05-02 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Chris, do you consider the statement only fit for jerks of which Terry is chief among men. to be an ad hokminem comment? I certainly do, and would like for you not to demean others on the list. Your point could have been made completely without such a comment. it only detracts from your point.

[TruthTalk] Selective enforcement?

2004-05-02 Thread Chris Barr
\o/ !HALALU Yah! \o/ Greetings Sir in the Matchless Name of YahShua !! Yes, Perry, my comment re Terry as a jerk was an ad hominem. I will now make amends for that. - Original Message - From: "Terry Clifton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05/01/2004 6:55 AM

Re: [TruthTalk] Selective enforcement?

2004-05-02 Thread Terry Clifton
Your point is noted Chris. I will try to do better. Terry Chris Barr wrote: \o/ !HALALU Yah! \o/ Greetings Sir in the Matchless Name of YahShua !! Yes, Perry, my comment re Terry as a jerk was an ad hominem. I will now make amends for that. -

Re: [TruthTalk] Terry et al (Sects)

2004-05-02 Thread LaurHamm
In a message dated 5/2/2004 8:16:25 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Laura: I have a close friend who recently joined this sect. She and her husband attendeda month of lectures on eschatology which drew them in even though the lecturer lied about his affiliationsaying

Re: [TruthTalk] This is Mrs. Chris Barr - I call him Tirshatha

2004-05-02 Thread LaurHamm
Thanks, Connie for responding. I'm glad you feel treasured by your husband and are under his subjection. I was under my husband's authority (and would gladly do it again). It is not easy going it alone and I have (because of godly advice of a friend) made it a point to be under the authority of

Re: [TruthTalk] 7th Day Adventists

2004-05-02 Thread Knpraise
Just to clarify: The Adventist church in most communities I am aware of, is accepted by most of the other churches as part of the larger Christian community. One of the local radio stations is a Christian music station run by the Adventist church. It features announcements from all Christian

Re: [TruthTalk] 7th Day Adventists

2004-05-02 Thread LaurHamm
In a message dated 5/2/2004 10:02:36 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just to clarify:The Adventist church in most communities I am aware of, is accepted by most of the other churches as part of the larger Christian community. One of the local radio stations is a Christian

Re: [TruthTalk] 7th Day Adventists

2004-05-02 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/2/2004 8:06:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Correct They aren't considered a cult here either but the course I took considered them a sect. Laura Where was this course taught? Just curious John

Re: [TruthTalk] 7th Day Adventists

2004-05-02 Thread LaurHamm
In a message dated 5/2/2004 10:11:36 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Where was this course taught? Just curiousJohn At my church. Laura

[TruthTalk] Courtesy of Peter of Canada

2004-05-02 Thread Dave
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/05/02/wcode02.xmlsSheet=/news/2004/05/02/ixworld.html -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain Five email lists... JOKESTER,

Re: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of Peter of Canada

2004-05-02 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/2/2004 10:30:26 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/05/02/wcode02.xmlsSheet=/news/2004/05/02/ixworld.html Thanks for the news tip. John

Re: [TruthTalk] 7th Day Adventists

2004-05-02 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/2/2004 9:10:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 5/2/2004 10:11:36 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Where was this course taught? Just curious John At my church. Laura Oh. John