Re: [TruthTalk] 'Smithian' Glasses

2005-11-07 Thread David Miller
DAVEH wrote: Could the same thing be said about Protestants who view Christ's Gospel through the lenses of Constantine's Trinity Doctrine? You do realize, don't you, that the Trinity doctrine did not originate with Constantine. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- &

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry & Dave: inquiring minds want to know

2005-11-07 Thread David Miller
David Miller wrote: All Christians can trace their roots back to the time of Constantine. DAVEH wrote: I think you are a bit off on that comment, DavidM. The RCC and Protestants not only trace their roots back to the time of Constantine, but have found themselves huddled beneath the umbrella

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry & Dave: inquiring minds want to know

2005-11-07 Thread David Miller
monality. You still preach Jesus Christ as Savior of the world, you evangelize by sharing the gospel, you baptize converts, you practice the laying on of hands for ordination, you have similar meetings in the sense of singing and teaching. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let y

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry & Dave: inquiring minds want to know

2005-11-07 Thread David Miller
shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. (14) If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it. David Miller wote: The entire church is to inherit the keys to the kingdom of heaven. DAVEH: As you know, that seems to be an illogical conclusion from my

Re: [TruthTalk] Torah & Jewish traditions

2005-11-07 Thread David Miller
x27;t think his wording of VII is helpful for this discussion, but his treatment ought to cause you to drop the word "only" from what you had said before. I consider Zodhiates a possible reading of Rom. 10:4, but not the final word on the matter. It was your "final word" pres

Re: [TruthTalk] Torah & Jewish traditions

2005-11-07 Thread David Miller
JD wrote: You ignore II Co 9:19-23 as the reasoning behind my comment. II Cor. 9:19-23 does not exist in your Bible, so why aren't you ignoring it too? :-) Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may kn

Re: [TruthTalk] Torah & Jewish traditions

2005-11-07 Thread David Miller
e trying to say. Communication with you is very tedious. I recommend you slow down. Perhaps you should let a post rest for a whole day before you send it, making sure it says exactly what you mean for it to say. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace

Re: [TruthTalk] Torah & Jewish traditions

2005-11-07 Thread David Miller
opinions. Thayer offers the same definition of telos as aim or purpose, so I suspect you simply do not understand the context of wherever you got that quote from Thayer. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may

Re: [TruthTalk] What counsel would you offer?

2005-11-07 Thread David Miller
to the teaching of Christ on this subject. The thrust of what Jesus taught on this is that he is against divorce, yet his teachings would seem to create more divorce the way you are interpreting and applying it. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with g

Re: [TruthTalk] Torah & Jewish traditions

2005-11-07 Thread David Miller
ervant Jews who believed that he and his disciples had broken the Sabbath laws. This was one of their favorite accusations against them. Jesus evidently was a liberal in regards to the traditions in place concerning Sabbath observance. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your s

Re: [TruthTalk] What counsel would you offer?

2005-11-07 Thread David Miller
l take a celibate life and I encourage them in that. Those who cannot hear because of the hardness of their heart might better abide by the teachings of Torah on the matter. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may

Re: [TruthTalk] Torah & Jewish traditions

2005-11-07 Thread David Miller
ally addresses if we are spiritual enough to appreciate it.   Peace be with you. David Miller.   --

Re: [TruthTalk] What counsel would you offer?

2005-11-07 Thread David Miller
ornication. This is the context of Jesus's comment which gives us a more balanced understanding of what Jesus was teaching. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man.&q

Re: [TruthTalk] What counsel would you offer?

2005-11-05 Thread David Miller
you can see that this situation between Herod and Herodias is not exactly the same situation as the sketch you gave us. In fact, it was a lot different. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you

Re: [TruthTalk] Torah & Jewish traditions

2005-11-05 Thread David Miller
stle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed. (15) Yet count him not as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to a

Re: [TruthTalk] Torah & Jewish traditions

2005-11-05 Thread David Miller
ddresses if we are spiritual enough to appreciate it. CD wrote: Yes, sacrifices continue but are these blood sacrifices as opposed to giving of self? The Torah speaks of more several kinds of offerings. A blood sacrifice is realized in the person of Jesus Christ. Peace be with you. Da

Re: [TruthTalk] Torah & Jewish traditions

2005-11-05 Thread David Miller
Izzy wrote: And David Miller, please explain to me what you mean when you say we should keep the law "spiritually" but not physically. How does one do that??? Don't lie (spiritually), but do it physically? Don't commit adultery (spiritually), but do it physically? I

Re: [TruthTalk] What counsel would you offer?

2005-11-05 Thread David Miller
d for each and every situation taken on a case by case basis. Peace be with you. David Miller. Terry wrote: I have run into the following situation at least twice. Some of you probably have too. Here it is. Sally was cheer leader in high school. If you were to choose a mate strictly on ph

Re: [TruthTalk] Torah & Jewish traditions

2005-11-05 Thread David Miller
, "much every way" (Rom. 3:2) or as one translator renders it: "the privilege is great from every point of view" and another translates it as "there are all kinds of advantages." Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with

Re: [TruthTalk] Torah & Jewish traditions

2005-11-05 Thread David Miller
vid Miller. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 12:28 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Torah & Jewish traditions   On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 19:23:08 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [TruthTalk] Torah & Jewish traditions

2005-11-05 Thread David Miller
JD wrote:>>> The church was never "right" based on its >>> collective understanding of the Message.  David Miller wrote:>> Yet, apostle Paul wrote that the church of the >> living God is the pillar and ground of the truth >> (1 Tim. 3:15).JD wro

Re: [TruthTalk] Torah & Jewish traditions

2005-11-04 Thread David Miller
to read it and consider his thesis. You can find several translations of the Epistle of Barnabas at: http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/barnabas.html Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ough

Re: [TruthTalk] Torah & Jewish traditions

2005-11-04 Thread David Miller
all of it or none of it. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send a

Re: [TruthTalk] Torah & Jewish traditions

2005-11-03 Thread David Miller
that is contrary to my position, nor anything contrary to Paul's position in the Roman letter. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://

Re: [TruthTalk] Torah & Jewish traditions

2005-11-03 Thread David Miller
o the deed? He evidently agreed with doing it. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive post

Re: [TruthTalk] Torah & Jewish traditions

2005-11-03 Thread David Miller
David Miller wrote: Maybe it is you who do not understand what this New Testament Pharisee meant when he said, "Christ is the end of the law for righteousness" (Romans 10:4). John wrote: What do you have in mind? Well, you had started out by writing: The church was never "

[TruthTalk] Torah & Jewish traditions

2005-11-03 Thread David Miller
away. It is the covenant of Torah that has found fulfillment and completion in Jesus Christ. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www

Re: [TruthTalk] Campus Preaching-Kevin Deegan / David Miller?

2005-11-02 Thread David Miller
Kevin wrote: http://www.thefire.org/index.php/article/5063.html FIRE's Guide to Free Speech on Campus Nice reference, Kevin. I have not seen this before. Nice read. Well written. Thank you. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace

Re: [TruthTalk] Campus Preaching-Kevin Deegan / David Miller?

2005-11-02 Thread David Miller
irdsong? He is a preacher who lives in that area and probably has experience on that campus. I've preached with him several times, and he has stayed at my home when he has traveled through this area preaching on campuses. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech

Re: [TruthTalk] Is it time for the USA to invade Iran?

2005-11-02 Thread David Miller
USA to invade Iran? DAVEH:  This link didn't work, DavidM.    Did you misquote it?David Miller wrote: Eight year old Iranian boy gets punished for stealing bread.  The punishment?  Run over his arm with a car!   http://bareknucklepolitics.com/forum/viewtopi

[TruthTalk] Is it time for the USA to invade Iran?

2005-11-01 Thread David Miller
Eight year old Iranian boy gets punished for stealing bread.  The punishment?  Run over his arm with a car!   http://bareknucklepolitics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=126#126    

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry & Dave: inquiring minds want to know

2005-10-31 Thread David Miller
. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and y

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry & Dave: inquiring minds want to know

2005-10-31 Thread David Miller
nt of view, Mormonism is a branch of Protestant Christianity. The interesting thing is that you consider Mormonism to be a restoration of primitive Christianity, while many of us view Mormonism as an extreme furtherance of the apostasy. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your s

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry & Dave: inquiring minds want to know

2005-10-31 Thread David Miller
self can not prevail against the church of Christ! I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. Church exists thru out all ages: Unto him [be] glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen   David Miller <[EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry & Dave: inquiring minds want to know

2005-10-31 Thread David Miller
DAVEH: I was under the impression that Baptists are Protestants. Here's a WIKI definition http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baptist Perhaps the following paragraph describes Kevin's perspective: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anabaptist Apostolic succession Another popular theory is that the

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry & Dave: inquiring minds want to know

2005-10-31 Thread David Miller
Kevin wrote: Else who were the RCC murdering before the middle ages? Do you have some particular group in mind? Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colo

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry & Dave: inquiring minds want to know

2005-10-31 Thread David Miller
bears no resemblance to Constantine's banner. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry & Dave: inquiring minds want to know

2005-10-30 Thread David Miller
splintered into the various Protestant groups. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry & Dave: inquiring minds want to know

2005-10-30 Thread David Miller
Trinity, and so did some of the LDS leaders in the early days of the LDS. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you d

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry & Dave: inquiring minds want to know

2005-10-29 Thread David Miller
n notion that the Trinity meant 3 in 1, or only 1 person. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to re

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry & Dave: inquiring minds want to know

2005-10-29 Thread David Miller
DAVEH: Do you believe it was something I said that caused Jeff not to convert, DavidM? Yes. However, it was not so much what you said, but interjecting at the time that you did, it turned the discussion away from getting spiritual. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry & Dave: inquiring minds want to know

2005-10-29 Thread David Miller
Dave. I would like to see you try to engage Lance and Bill Taylor with a discussion about your perspective concerning who Jesus is. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man.

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry & Dave: inquiring minds want to know

2005-10-29 Thread David Miller
words would be at the root of his feelings.Joseph Smith. But that's just a guess on my part. It is not Joseph Smith for me so much as your blind faith in Joseph Smith and the LDS organization. I sincerely believe that your faith is in your church organization rather than in Jesus C

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry & Dave: inquiring minds want to know

2005-10-28 Thread David Miller
ost LDS Mormons are part of the organization, not because of any real spiritual reasons, but because of social reasons. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man.&quo

Re: [TruthTalk]

2005-10-27 Thread David Miller
Your mother living to nearly 100 is wonderful for you. May the Lord bless you in your travel as you say goodbye and bring closure to your relationship with her. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how

Re: [TruthTalk] walking

2005-10-20 Thread David Miller
Precious and wonderful, Terry. Thanks for sharing. It looks like you came back with a special gift for writing. Peace be with you. David Miller. - Original Message - From: "Terry Clifton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 20

Re: [TruthTalk] Judging by Doctrine

2005-10-17 Thread David Miller
n.  The Bible teaches that the head of every man is Christ and the head of the woman is the man (1 Cor. 11:3).  Therefore, in the same way that we are to play second fiddle to Christ, so the woman is to play second fiddle to the man.    Lance wrote: > How encouraging it is to see  David Mille

Re: [TruthTalk] On knowing the Father through the Son by the Spirit

2005-10-17 Thread David Miller
is my witness, I would love for you to add a fourth alternative that would not only explain all the inconsistencies, but would put you in the best possible light. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought

Re: [TruthTalk] The TEXT will never be uniformily apprehended!!!

2005-10-17 Thread David Miller
fe for the better.    But, whatever   JD  -Original Message-From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 10:14:46 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The TEXT will never be uniformily apprehended!!! JD wrote: > I missed this post,

Re: [TruthTalk] On knowing the Father through the Son by the Spirit

2005-10-14 Thread David Miller
verybody on TruthTalk has at times mishandled the Scriptures. I can find no basis for this assertion. I don't believe it. I disagree with it. Clear enough? DM. - Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: October 14, 2005 10:05 Subject:

Re: [TruthTalk] On knowing the Father through the Son by the Spirit

2005-10-14 Thread David Miller
y > so. Put up or shut up! Opinion shminion. If I speak the truth on a matter > and, you believe it to be so then, speak up. This is beneath you. Petty, > petty, petty. > > > - Original Message - > From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: >

Re: [TruthTalk] Unbelievers CANNOT Pray

2005-10-14 Thread David Miller
an what the Bible is talking about. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this l

Re: [TruthTalk] The TEXT will never be uniformily apprehended!!!

2005-10-14 Thread David Miller
oint still stands. It changes nothing in regards to what I said. As for addressing your examples from the Bible, I don't see any from you in the thread below, so I have no idea what you are talking about. Peace be with you. David Miller. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [TruthTalk] On knowing the Father through the Son by the Spirit

2005-10-14 Thread David Miller
have given us none, so, we simply recognize that you have no standard but yourself. Since your standard is faulty, by your own admission, as Kevin has so rightly analyzed the situation, your opinion should be ignored. The truth is that some here have never mishandled the sacred text. Peace be w

Re: [TruthTalk] The TEXT will never be uniformily apprehended!!!

2005-10-14 Thread David Miller
er the Mormon position of "we believe the Bible as far as it is translated correctly" over your viewpoint of Biblical inspiration, and that is not saying much. :-) Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may

Re: [TruthTalk] Two (2) Major Omissions vis a vis the Bible

2005-10-14 Thread David Miller
tion on this, but you really should rethink your response (IMHO). Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want t

Re: [TruthTalk] The TEXT will never be uniformily apprehended!!!

2005-10-13 Thread David Miller
I'm glad you clarified this.  I thought maybe you had 1 John 5:8 in mind, but deep down, I think I knew better.  :-)   If you study the Scriptures a little closer, you will find that what you attribute to man is actually attributed to the Holy Ghost.  For example, consider Heb. 3:7, which quo

Re: [TruthTalk] Two (2) Major Omissions vis a vis the Bible

2005-10-13 Thread David Miller
  --   at least as much so as a translation can be.   2.  No more and no less than any here on TT.   You're getting a little transparent, again, David.    Jd  -Original Message-From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Thu, 13 Oct

Re: [TruthTalk] The TEXT will never be uniformily apprehended!!!

2005-10-13 Thread David Miller
rrogant to say such, but the Lord knows that I speak soberly and in humility about this. God desires everyone to have faith, to believe rather than doubt. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how

Re: [TruthTalk] Two (2) Major Omissions vis a vis the Bible

2005-10-13 Thread David Miller
use to measure truth? Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an

Re: [TruthTalk] The TEXT will never be uniformily apprehended!!!

2005-10-13 Thread David Miller
Lance wrote: > Ya gits some things right some of the time. > Ya gits some things wrong some of the time. > That applies to DaveH and it applies to David > Miller. (We all know my record of accuracy so, > we'll leave me out.) Limited understanding is not the same thing as twi

Re: [TruthTalk] The TEXT will never be uniformily apprehended!!!

2005-10-13 Thread David Miller
r does it mean that we twist holy words. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this

Re: [TruthTalk] Two (2) Major Omissions vis a vis the Bible

2005-10-13 Thread David Miller
answer this question. You seem to think that if two people disagree then they both must be wrong. Does the possibility not occur to you that one of the two might be right? Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may kno

Re: [TruthTalk] Two (2) Major Omissions vis a vis the Bible

2005-10-13 Thread David Miller
raight ruler rather than a crooked and mismarked ruler in making your judgments. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do n

Re: [TruthTalk] Two (2) Major Omissions vis a vis the Bible

2005-10-13 Thread David Miller
aning. However, there still would remain a problem because the promise of Jesus Christ is that he would not leave us in the state of being subject to deception, but rather, we are promised that the Holy Spirit would guide us into all truth. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "

Re: [TruthTalk] Two (2) Major Omissions vis a vis the Bible

2005-10-13 Thread David Miller
st Scripture in the future? Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an

Re: [TruthTalk] Two (2) Major Omissions vis a vis the Bible

2005-10-13 Thread David Miller
I do not twist Scripture to fit what I want it to mean. I read Scripture and quote Scripture with the intent to hear what it has to say to us. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer

Re: [TruthTalk] The TEXT will never be uniformily apprehended!!!

2005-10-11 Thread David Miller
to have done, and not to leave the other undone. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts

Re: [TruthTalk] The TEXT will never be uniformily apprehended!!!

2005-10-11 Thread David Miller
h to contain all the texts that could be written about Him. None of this is meant to undermine the authority of Scripture. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man.&qu

Re: [TruthTalk] The TEXT will never be uniformily apprehended!!!

2005-10-11 Thread David Miller
Yes, Lance, I do believe you have. Thank you. David M. p.s. Before you get a big head, I have read in the Bible how a donkey spoke infallibly. - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 8:08 AM Subject: [TruthTalk] The TEXT w

Re: [TruthTalk] God is a relational God: Father, Son, Spirit

2005-10-10 Thread David Miller
Amen? Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [E

Re: [TruthTalk] Antinomianism Refuted

2005-10-10 Thread David Miller
ried once to mediate between Bill and Judy off the list to help bridge that misunderstanding. The truth is that none of us have a full and complete understanding of anyone else on the list. This is the kind of garden that God desires, so that he might see who will walk in love, and who will g

[TruthTalk] Is Faith Rational?

2005-10-10 Thread David Miller
manner of deception. There is no method by which false ideas can be put down. A person, when shown to be wrong in his thinking, can always resort back to the idea that it is by faith that he accepts an irrational and illogical viewpoint. That is a scary place to be. Peace be with you. Da

Re: [TruthTalk] Antinomianism Refuted

2005-10-10 Thread David Miller
he list? After awhile it appears quite unbecoming, especially for a Christian. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If

Re: [TruthTalk] Antinomianism Refuted

2005-10-10 Thread David Miller
tand Judy's stated beliefs. All of you approach the Scriptures and the Lord Himself from a very different perspective and with very different goals. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you

Re: [TruthTalk] God is a relational God: Father, Son, Spirit

2005-10-10 Thread David Miller
y and unravel what you might possibly mean by this last part. When we are IN CHRIST, this is a work of the Spirit, and as the Spirit puts us into Christ, so Christ puts us into the Spirit. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with s

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2005-10-10 Thread David Miller
roduced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Precedence: bulk Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org David Miller wrote: >> If I declare, "Jesus Christ is the Messiah!" >> is this an infallible statement or not? >> Is the statement without error?

Re: [TruthTalk] Antinomianism Refuted

2005-10-08 Thread David Miller
re, JD. It describes your theology. Look it up in the dictionary. I thought you knew Greek. (anti - nomos, against - law). Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer ev

Re: [TruthTalk] Antinomianism Refuted

2005-10-08 Thread David Miller
and the cleansing of the Word, there are some who are righteous. Whoever is in Christ is righteous, despite the declaration of the book that "none are righteous, no not one." You have asked for exegesis. Now you have some. Deal with this from an exegetical perspective. What say

Re: [TruthTalk] God is a relational God: Father, Son, Spirit

2005-10-08 Thread David Miller
n this case. -Original Message-From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 19:00:46 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God is a relational God: Father, Son, Spirit JD wrote: > The correct way of saying it is this: > nobod

[TruthTalk] Infallibility

2005-10-08 Thread David Miller
David Miller wrote: >> Example of an infallible Truth: >> Jesus is the Christ, the Messiah. JD wrote: > Your illustration is something that we both would > agree upon. But my Jesus is the Eternal Son > and yours is not. My Jesus is a unique incarnational > bein

Re: [TruthTalk] God is a relational God: Father, Son, Spirit

2005-10-08 Thread David Miller
e himself an enemy of the gospel of Jesus Christ. The problem is that neither you nor Bill has recognized this. This is a simple case where friendship and party affiliation must be set aside for the greater good of the truth of the gospel. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your

Re: [TruthTalk] Antinomianism Refuted

2005-10-08 Thread David Miller
I liked this article much better than your first one, but this one seems to contradict something you said in your first article.  You had written, "The WHOLE point of the gospel, is that Christ came to save filthy vile hell-deserving sinners who will continue to sin after their conversion (t

Re: [TruthTalk] Gossip

2005-10-07 Thread David Miller
about you to anyone or to you about anyone. What are you talking about? Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not w

[TruthTalk] Gossip

2005-10-07 Thread David Miller
of people against one another. Please pray about this and ask God's forgiveness. Stop this gossip immediately. If you must talk about me to them, please include me in the conversation, either through conference call or including me in the email exchange. Peace be with you. David M

Re: [TruthTalk] PERSPECTIVALISM ALIVE AND WELL ON TT

2005-10-07 Thread David Miller
get them. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAI

Re: [TruthTalk] God is a relational God: Father, Son, Spirit

2005-10-07 Thread David Miller
h this was true. How many times I have wanted to discuss things with you, only to be berated and maligned. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) htt

Re: [TruthTalk] God is a relational God: Father, Son, Spirit

2005-10-07 Thread David Miller
Thank you, Bill.  While you attempt very hard to express agreement with Lance, perhaps for political or relationship reasons, it is very clear that you use language that is very different from that of Lance.  You rightly affirm that we are "perfectly in Christ."  You also say that we are "co

Re: [TruthTalk] God is a relational God: Father, Son, Spirit

2005-10-06 Thread David Miller
lk, even as he walked." Who should I believe? I choose to believe the apostle John. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org

Re: [TruthTalk] God is a relational God: Father, Son, Spirit

2005-10-06 Thread David Miller
and perverted when it enters our minds. It speaks to someone receiving a more full knowledge and understanding. Yes, we all grow in this, but this does not subtract from what we have already received. It adds to it. Get the picture? Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your

Re: [TruthTalk] God is a relational God: Father, Son, Spirit

2005-10-06 Thread David Miller
I am in agreement with your first paragraph.  There is nothing hopeless in this paragraph.  What is hopeless, however, is when your gospel also condemns us to continue to live a life of bondage, defeated by temptation and sin EVERY SINGLE DAY!   David Miller Humble Student and Servant

Re: [TruthTalk] God is a relational God: Father, Son, Spirit

2005-10-06 Thread David Miller
.  You seem to think you have it all worked out already.   Soteriology 4401 Student and servant of all, David Miller - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God is a

Re: [TruthTalk] God is a relational God: Father, Son, Spirit

2005-10-06 Thread David Miller
oncept. However, those who are so arrogant as to declare it impossible, or to presume to speak for all of humanity as if they know it all, well, I have little respect for that. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, tha

Re: [TruthTalk] God is a relational God: Father, Son, Spirit

2005-10-06 Thread David Miller
Christ will continue to sin every day? Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from

Re: [TruthTalk] God is a relational God: Father, Son, Spirit

2005-10-06 Thread David Miller
r two in his life when he has not sinned. Bill, will you clarify your theological perspective? Do you have a Biblical argument for the viewpoint that nobody is complete in Christ and that those in Christ will continue to sin on a daily basis? Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Le

Re: [TruthTalk] God is a relational God: Father, Son, Spirit

2005-10-06 Thread David Miller
and apprehending the same truth. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an em

Re: [TruthTalk] God is a relational God: Father, Son, Spirit

2005-10-06 Thread David Miller
Lance wrote: > Until you demonstrate INFALLIBILITY David Miller, > I speak from where you speak from. You still don't get it. The issue is not MY infallibility. We both might be fallible, but that does not mean that we speak from the same position or with the same goal. The po

Re: [TruthTalk] Repentance Unto Life

2005-10-06 Thread David Miller
lad to post articles you have written on our website, but I see that you have your own website so I doubt that is what you desire. If you desire to continue on this forum, please consider responding to posts and discussing the issues that others have raised. Peace be with you. David Miller.

Re: [TruthTalk] God is a relational God: Father, Son, Spirit

2005-10-06 Thread David Miller
that is looking for a reward. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an

Re: [TruthTalk] God is a relational God: Father, Son, Spirit

2005-10-06 Thread David Miller
Christ. This is true. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an

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