'sweating blood' is
a classic nuanced English figure of speech, Bro, sorta like 'making a
silk purse from a sow's ear'
the underlying
elemental requirementsofProtestant orthodoxy arenot too
complicated--ourhistory in Christ--all its documents, too--allow (any)one
to discover,
Response to Iz:Spoken like a true REPUBLICAN, sadly.
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Sent: December 19, 2005 00:00
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: The
tree
Lots of confusion, huh?
Blainerb
In a
The operative word is PROVISIONAL.
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From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: December 18, 2005 12:13
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Condition of heart of unregenerate gentiles
Not really. But, is also depends on the nature of
Judy:Give me the name of the church you attend. IFO would
be please to personally call your pastor. I do not trust you as a conduit of his
ideas.
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From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent:
Well Judy, at least one has to commend you for both your
consistency and your constancy!!
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From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: December 18, 2005 09:49
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
Ever the optimist, Lance once again asks Judy: Do
you always and completely UNDERSTAND EMPLOY THEM (those Scriptures you
cite) as God and the author means them?
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From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: December 18, 2005 15:25
Yes I was going by the part I observed on
the open list - but apparentlythere was more going
onoffline
which I was not aware of until yesterday.. but
it sounds like they are working things out. judyt
On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 22:55:20 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In a message dated 12/17/2005
JD is correct on this one, Judy. Do you, Judy,
believe that in HAVING THE MIND OF CHRIST you are thereby INFALLIBLE IN BOTH
YOUR SELECTION, UNDERSTANDING AND INTERPRETATION OF SCRIPTURE. I believe it is
possible for you to answer yes/no on this.
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From:
Are you, Judy, concerned for your son/yourself in
this church, under this pastor?
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: December 18, 2005 15:45
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Condition of
heart of "unregenerate" gentiles
Will you kindly interpret 'vain imaginations' for
me/us?
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From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: December 18, 2005 17:33
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Condition of
heart of "unregenerate"
IFF I've read you correctly on this then, you ought
to be called on to apologize by the moderator (if he can drag himself away from
the MC) "I don't believe He is the same god, JD")
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From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent:
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From:
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 12/18/2005 9:55:13 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Banning/Shunning not the same thing
Maybe you can try reading the posts and counting the number of people who are actually SP. It is not
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From:
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 12/18/2005 11:05:09 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Saturday Sabbath
Just another little disagreement as to what conclusions can be reached in reading a particular passage in the Bible.
Blainerb
cd: The bible say
IMO both Judy and David have the same understanding
with respect to understanding/interpreting Scripture.
1. Exactly what is that
'understanding'?
2. After having it explicitly stated, I'd like to
know who, on TT, subscribes to it.
L
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From:
Judy
- Original Message -
From:
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 12/18/2005 11:12:43 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Saturday Sabbath
Blainerb: VERY GOOD, jd!!
Jesus said several times he was sentonly to the House of Israel, which is why he even went to the Samaritans, many of
Is it not possible, though actually attending this
church, that YOU DON'T KNOW THIS PASTOR EITHER, Judy?
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From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: December 18, 2005 18:51
Subject: Re:
Linda:Judy, as is frequently the case,
misunderstood my post, unlike her infallible understanding of Scripture. I'd
never think that either of you as subscribing to calvinism. INSOFAR AS I
UNDERSTAND ALL TT PARTICIPANTS, NOT ONE SUBSCRIBES TO CALVINism! I'd becha on
that.
- Original
Are you, ALWAYS?
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From:
ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: December 18, 2005 19:05
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: what is new
for me
If you are walking in
the Spirit, yes. iz
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In a message dated 12/17/2005 3:25:29 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Christ's physical ministry was to the Jew, only. He lived
under the law and was the fulfillment of that law. In Him is the end of the law.
In Him is no such
thing. God's
Well said, Gary.
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From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: December 19, 2005 00:15
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Condition of
heart of "unregenerate" gentiles
no myth in
this--that you supremely regard only your
After sitting in the pew for a year and a half I know
enough about him and as a matter of fact I like him
but we won't be going anywhere other than more bricks
and mortar and more ss rooms..
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 06:42:59 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Is it not possible,
Earth to Blainer:Please do a little homework on this one.
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From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: December 19, 2005 00:11
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] sweat
In a message dated 12/18/2005 10:00:08 P.M. Mountain Standard
Blainer: Just how well (seriously) do you know your own history?
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From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: December 19, 2005 00:06
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] SO THEN it is
safe to assume that NO MORMON RESPONSE TO THE "...
So ought you and JD Lance, how is it what you write
always passes the smell test with you and what I write is always
needing a reprimand ie: "By stating that I do not understand scripture you Lance are
putting yourself in the place of
God and so is JD in your Amen gallery"
judyt
On Mon, 19
"Lance and JD are putting themselves in the place
of God in saying that I (Judy) do not understand Scripture."
Speaking only for myself Judy, I will live with
that which you believe concerning your
understanding/apprehension/interpretation/selection of citations etc.('Live
with' does NOT
I've been explicitly stating what I believe for the
past 2-3years on this list. Seems you've been paying
more attention to the MC Lance so you've missed
it. judyt
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 07:16:50 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
"Lance and JD are putting themselves in the place
Since you apparently do not eitherunderstand them
or believe themLance, why would you want to put
everyone into your theological box?
If I did not understand them, naturally I would not
employ them - but this one is a no brainer.
Jesus says:
"It is expedient for you that I go away for
Lance you are so opinionated about everything -
don't you have an opinion on this point? Calvinism has permeated
just
about every denomination and at one time
controlled Scotland. Do you think your beloved TFT is completely free of it's
taint?
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 06:19:29 -0500 "Lance
I grant my 'thickness' readily, Judy. Please, just
for me, one more time?
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: December 19, 2005 07:24
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Some enjoy
theological
Not only is my 'beloved TFT' not free of it's 'taint' Judy
but, horror of horrors, he, along with his brother David, edited the New
Testament Commentaries. However, I cannot but concur as to the ongoing negative
impact of 'Calvinism' (NOT SYNONYMOUS WITH CALVIN'S TEACHING)
It'd be a little
Foolish, empty, profitless imaginations, the kind
that should be cast down.
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 06:32:20 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Will you kindly interpret 'vain imaginations' for
me/us?
From: Judy Taylor
Unlike some - I don't entertain vain
No, I figure God is able to keep us and our son is
doing his own homework which is more than many.
The missionary girl (just spent 7yrs in Ukraine) that
just moved into an Apt with our youngest girl was
raised in what they call the Reformed faith and has
never questioned it. Many pew sitters
'Them'? The Scriptures?
I should actually appreciate staying with this
important matter until it is abundantly clear. Clear to me, to you, and, to
DAVID MILLER and to all others on TT, Judy.
DAVID MILLER ACCUSED ME OF BLASPHEMY, as I recall,
ON THIS VERY MATTER AND, VIS A VIS JUDY TAYLOR!
No JD is not correct on this one
Lance. James and John were not scholars, neither were the
Bereans.
John was arrested along with Peter and brought before
the High Priest (educated) in Jerusalem because
they were acting like Street Preachers .
and
"Now when they (the educated and
How are you using 'charismatic'? IFF the Spirit of
God is NOT present in this church Judy, flee immediately! IFF the Spirit of God
IS present in this church Judy, then take care concerning those
accusationslest you falsely accuse one of God's own.
D**n Judy, but you're one c***y lady!!
Yes Lance "them" - (that is unless you receive
interpretation through some educated person that you
respect). You do not believe that the scriptures
I cite below are operative in my life no matter what I say which
is in effect blaspheming the Holy Spirit if in fact, I
am speaking the truth.
By charismatic I mean charming and he is
"educated". I've not met any Reformed ppl who areinto spiritual
giftings
but we get a lot of ppl from Regent University who
drive 45 minutes to come out here which tells me there is a dearth
at VA Beach also. This fellow is OK for
historical
They are not his ideas Lance,
Do you sell a Westminster Catechism at your
Bookstore? You will find them in there if you
have time to look up all the scriptures and fine print. This should keep you
busy for a while.
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 06:21:31 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
How would one get Democrat or Republican out of
what Izzy writes below?
Apparently you wear "political eyeglasses" when
reading her posts Lance.
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 06:07:54 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Response to Iz:Spoken like a true REPUBLICAN, sadly.
From:
I'll pray for your localchurch
home pilgrimage also .. thanks for
sharing.
judyt
PS: Where is Kevin??
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
Funny but, that's kind of how I see 'your ideas'. Instead
of the WC, you speak the ideas of J Finis Dake. He obviously kept YOU busy for
quite a while.
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From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Nope!
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: December 19, 2005 08:43
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: The
tree
How would one get Democrat or Republican out
of what Izzy writes
Isn't RU a 'charismatic' U? Maybe those who drive
45 min see what you cannot!
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: December 19, 2005 08:34
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Condition of
heart
NO! I very much believe that the Scriptures are
operative in your life. I just believe your interpretations of them to be 'hit
and miss', just like everyone else ('ceptin some are better at it than
you)
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From:
Judy
Taylor
To:
Interpretation of PS:Where is Kevin?? Help,
Kevin!
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: truthtalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: December 19, 2005 08:47
Subject: [TruthTalk] For Dean
I'll pray for your localchurch
home pilgrimage also .. thanks for
Apparently you wear "J Finis Dake" eyeglasses
when reading my posts Lance
Makes sense. Do you sell his Bible also
and check what I write with his notes? If so
you are in even worse shape than what I had
thought because I don't teach him and
seldom refer to his lists these
days. Whereas
You keep wanting to card file everyone and everything
Lance. Pat Robertson is charismatic - yes
but that is not to say that everyone at Regent
University believes this way - it is equal opportunity.His Hotel has been
sold to a secular company. A lot of things happen
because of the ebb and
You couldn't make this kind of a judgment call unless
you considered yourself to have apprehended
ALL TRUTH which would put you in the position to judge
in your own estimation.
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 08:53:52 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
NO! I very much believe that the
Not hardly but I have to say he is an
encouragement because healong with the
other brothers you eschew are seeking the narrow path
that leads to life
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 08:55:00 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Interpretation of PS:Where is Kevin?? Help,
Kevin!
A the good old dualistic narrow
path!
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: December 19, 2005 09:08
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] For Dean
Not hardly but I have to say he is an
Your response here indicates ignorance
Lance
When the Holy Spirit gives understanding there is no
interpretation involved
One either understands or they don't .. just like a
foreign language
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 08:53:52 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
NO! I very much believe
PS: I do have a life. PPS: I don't carry the WC. I'm not
that big on it. Apparently those who wish to hear from it can attend your church
(you do CHOOSE to go there do you not?)
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc:
NOT, I repeat NOT, amongst some of the 'reformed
believers' who regularly shop in this store. Like I've said concerning you on
occasion, y'all otta get out more.
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Shall we accuse them ALL of blasphemy? C'mon let's
do it! Surely it's not a serious charge is it, Judy?
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: December 19, 2005 09:06
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASSERTS
THAT I,
Yes, I understand, you exhibit a very active
intellectual life - lots of opinions.
Then why so judgmental as to whether or not I
know what I am hearing?
I'm sure there are plenty of Reformed ppl in
Canada
Yes, I attend because it is where my family
chooses to go
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005
Would your approach to Scripture be just like those
who 'heard in their own language' in Acts 2.? Seriously Judy, if this is the
case then I'm gonna shut my mouth and, listen to nobody but you..oh and David
'cause I think he also believes sumpin like this.
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You just love the groupfest thing don't you
Lance?.
You talk yourself into a corner and then want everyone
who has ever disagreed with anything
I have ever said on this list to join you. How
very sad!!! I say the Spirit of God gives
me
understanding as per John 16:3,14 and you say He does
There is some weird charismania out there also that
borders on the occult which is why a
lot of the 'once Spirit led' groups in this area are
not as they once were... SoI will neither accept
or reject your claim. I personally believe there
is a real but most of what we have been subject
to
I've been just as clear as you've been on this.
Including others is not a 'groupfest thingy', Judy. Have you truly failed to
take note of anyone's recent disagreement with you over your scriptural
interpretation? I've most certainly NOT failed to note them!
Here is a very serious
I've sent the post to David and to Perry, Judy. I
await their responses.
Lance
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 09:38:35 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I've been just as clear as you've been on this. Including
others is not a 'groupfest thingy', Judy. Have you truly failed to take note
of anyone's recent disagreement with you over your scriptural
You and David have accused ME of blasphemy. By
extension you've similarly accused the 'trio' as you call them.Kicked off
or not, I should like for this to go ahead. 'Blaspheming' is serious business,
Judy.
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To:
Your response to the narrow path and the strait gate is
as follows - why?
Where does the dualism come from?
A the good old dualistic narrow
path!
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
I know - and for this reason you
should stop doing it Lance.
I don't know about this "by extension" thing; let the
others fight their own battles ...
Gary's writings are incomprehensible so I wouldn't know
what he is saying most of the time
JD's are also so much mixture it has become
Although this is a very rare phenomenon, bloody sweat (hematidrosis or
hemihidrosis) may occur in highly emotional states or in persons with bleeding
disorders. (18,20) As a result of hemorrhage into the sweat glands, the skin
becomes fragile and tender. (2,11) Luke's description supports
Where does the dualism come from, you ask? Ask Judy
where it comes from. I notice it, Gary identifies it, so do John and Bill.
OOOPS! You wanna make this just about me, doncha?
When I speak well of you Judy, I truly mean it!
It's you who keeps on addressing the rest of us minions from your
cd: Is John and the LDS in agreement now?
You might actually try reading some of my posts rather than sitting there trying to come up with something cute to say. Refer to my 8 point post comparing Mormonism to Christianity and you will have your answer.
I await the prouncement(s).
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: December 19, 2005 10:08
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] And Gary, and
John, and Bill and, on occasion(s), Linda and David
No, not always. Its a good thing I
have a Savior to help me get back on track when I slip off, and to forgive me
for the moments when I take my eyes off of Him. iz
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005
5:51 AM
Oooh, Judy, good point! iz
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Judy Taylor
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005
5:52 AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Saturday
Sabbath
In a message dated
I believe you.
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From:
ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: December 19, 2005 10:20
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: what is new
for me
No, not always.
Its a good thing I have a Savior to help me get back on track when I
How do Gary and Lance presume to know
whether or not Judy has distain for his people?
You, again, sin with your words. iz
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005
5:55 AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject:
You didn't answer my question
I am not asking Gary, John, or Bill
You say it below - I want to know what you mean.
judyt
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 10:17:16 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Where does the dualism come from, you ask? Ask
Judy where it comes from. I notice it, Gary
You are a tripartate who has a disdain for things
of the earth which by extension indicates that you do not apprehend the
significance of the Incarnation and the humanity of Jesus.
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc:
Small point but, 'disdain' not 'distain'. How, you
ask? Think of your attitude toward the Democrat party (made up of real
Democrats) then, read Judy's posts on both the living and the dead. The
'disdain' is similar to your 'Democrat disdain'. THAT IS HOW!
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I don't have disdain for things of the earth at all so
there is no extension
I believe we are "fearfully and wonderfully made" and
thank God for every earthly blessing daily
So it's just another straw man - huh!!
Who constructed this one?
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 10:34:28 -0500 "Lance Muir"
Me!
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: December 19, 2005 10:37
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Question for
Lance
I don't have disdain for things of the earth at all
so there is no
You write:
You are a tripartate who has a disdain for things of the earth
which by extension indicates
that you do not apprehend the significance of the Incarnation and the
humanity of Jesus.
Do you actually believe your salvation comes through
Jesus' humanity Lance?
What does that mean
Keeping the law has never saved anyone, girls. The law has value in
that it shows us (to some extent) what sin is. We no longer offer a
sacrifice because Jesus was our sacrifice. If that part of the law has
been fulfilled, then all the law has been fulfilled. The shed blood of
Jesus was far
Terry wrote:
The old law allowed you to hate your enemy.
When you say, old law, are you talking about the Torah of Moses? Where
does it allow anyone to hate anybody? I don't see how this is possible
because Jesus said that those who love God and love their neighbor fulfill
the requirements
David:
You may have addressed the 'letter' of Terry's post but, might you have
missed it's spirit? No, I don't believe this needs any clarification.
- Original Message -
From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: December 19, 2005 11:20
Subject: Re:
I was not talking about divorce or brothers or neighbors.. I was
talking about enemies.
David Miller wrote:
Terry wrote:
The old law allowed you to hate your enemy.
When you say, "old law," are you talking about the Torah of Moses? Where
does it allow anyone to hate
I'm talking about God's moral law Terri and Jesus did
not negate any of that. The ceremonial law was for
the Levitical priesthood which has passed away.
He is now our Prophet, Priest, and King. Jesus Commandments
are the Spirit of the Law which as you say is based on
Love, but then so is
Terry wrote:
I was not talking about divorce or brothers
or neighbors.. I was talking about enemies.
Again, when you say, old law, are you talking about the law of Moses?
What old law allows a person to hate their enemies? I hope you are not
talking about the Torah.
Peace be with you.
Lance wrote:
You may have addressed the 'letter' of Terry's
post but, might you have missed it's spirit?
I did not miss it's spirit. I agree with that and see no reason to respond
to it. It stands fine on its own. We all need to be provoked to love one
another more fervently.
The idea,
Lance how about answering my question before
getting off on
giving Izzy a typing lesson. jt
PS - Who is the one who wrote "disdane" in the subject
line?
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 10:30:59 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Small point but, 'disdain' not 'distain'. How,
you ask?
Lance wrote:
Here is a very serious suggestion! Let's have David
and Perry prounce on this issue. Let's say that if
anything warrants being thrown off the list, it'd be
blasphemy. Agreed?
No, Lance, I don't agree. This list is not a Christian list. Atheists and
pagans are allowed. Surely
Here we go once again, David. Since we are totally public why don't you
outline, utilizing texts and interpretation just how you support this
'non-accusation' that not you but, God is judging me for?
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From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
"techniccally" is the word of a legalist justifying what he has actually done while pretending to be fully consistent. One simply cannot tell another to "stop the blasphemy" without, at the same time and in the same breath, accusing him OF blasphemy.
jd
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Romans 14 puts to an end this argument.
-- Original message -- From: "Marlin halverson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Over one hundred years ago the Catholic Mirror ran a series of articles discussing the right of the Protestant churches to worship on Sunday. The articles
So Judy, we only needed the apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors and teacher until the Bible was approved by the Chruch? Is that what you are saying?
And Lance's claim, below, that we all might just sitat your your feet when we have a question of scripture or disagree with your view.
No that is not what I am saying JD
ATST there is just one "Bread from Heaven" and His are
the feet you are to sit at.
Only one mediator between God and man.
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 18:20:43 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So Judy, we only needed the apostles, prophets, evangelists,
I am sorry Judy. It pains me to say it, but I do not see any love in
you. I see an intense desire to be right and I see at least a tendency
to condemn those who do not see it as you do. I hope that love is
there. I hope I am just blind to it and do not see it because of my
inability. I thought
That is exactly what I am talking about, David. Jesus said "You have
heard it said that you should love your neighbor and hate your enemy,
but I tell you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you." Jesus
is saying to change. Stop doing it the way you have been taught. I
have a better way.
Lance wrote:
... why don't you outline, utilizing texts and
interpretation just how you support this
'non-accusation' that not you but, God is
judging me for?
Your last comment indicates you have misunderstood me. What I meant is that
you are under God himself. You are not somebody who is
John wrote:
techniccally is the word of a legalist justifying
what he has actually done while pretending to
be fully consistent. One simply cannot tell another
to stop the blasphemy without, at the same time
and in the same breath, accusing him OF blasphemy.
There is a distinction between
If "illumination" or "spritual discernment" means that you cannot be wrong AND you reject virtually everything I have written on this forum over the past two years or so, how do you avoid the implication that your interpretation is "inspired" and mine is not? Do you believe that your
JD wrote:
Obviously, in a disagreement, your view (and DM's)
are the correct and inspired view and ours is not.
And when you and David disagree, who is right on
that one.
I think disagreements between Spirit-filled believers are more tenuous than
most will acknowledge. Misunderstanding
HUZZAH!! David has loosed me from condemnation! Actually David, it may well
be Judy who misunderstood. IMO both of you misapprehend Jn 16 1 Cor 2 but,
another conversation for another prophet.
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- Original Message -
From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
Horsefeathers! 'Slip sliding away' (prophet Paul Simon)
- Original Message -
From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: December 19, 2005 14:57
Subject: [TruthTalk] Do believers really disagree on anything?
JD wrote:
Obviously, in a disagreement,
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