[tg-trunk] Re: TurboGears GSoC 2008 application

2008-03-08 Thread Kevin Dangoor
Hi Chris, I did indeed apply in 2006. At the time, I was told to work through the PSF. Kevin On Mar 8, 2008, at 6:02 PM, Christopher Arndt wrote: Hi Kevin, as you may have already seen, the TurboGears project will apply for becoming a mentoring organisation in the Googgle Summer of

[TurboGears] TurboGears DVD and other merchandise clearance sale

2007-07-24 Thread Kevin Dangoor
I have just reduced the price of my DVD and the other merchandise to 60-70% off of the original prices. It's time to clear out my warehouse space so that I can make room for other things I have brewing. Now's the time to get that MarbleGears you've been wanting :)

[tg-trunk] Fwd: Pylons/TurboGears templating

2007-06-29 Thread Kevin Dangoor
. Pylons does not make that feature conveniently accessible to applications, so it goes unused even for Genshi-based apps Cheers, Chris -- http://www.cmlenz.net/ -- Kevin Dangoor TurboGears email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] company: http://www.BlazingThings.com blog: http

[tg-trunk] Re: turbogears.extensions that don't work with TG 1.1 (CP3)

2007-03-27 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Mar 27, 2007, at 2:48 AM, Max Ischenko wrote: First thing I noticed when tried CherryPy 3 branch is that some extensions don't work. In particular, TurboZSI which depends on cherrypy's filters API. Though I haven't tested it, there's a good chance that TGWebServices will work with

[TurboGears] Re: [REMINDER] This list is moderated. [Was] Re: [TurboGears] Where are my posts?

2007-03-26 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On 3/26/07, iain duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2007-26-03 at 15:40 +0200, Alberto Valverde wrote: On Mar 26, 2007, at 3:06 PM, Christopher Arndt wrote: Alberto Valverde schrieb: I'd like to remind everyone and inform new mebers and lurkers that new members' posts are

[TurboGears] Re: docs.turbogears.org down

2007-03-23 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Mar 23, 2007, at 10:04 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bad Gateway The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server. Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. FYI, Remi has offered to move

[TurboGears] Re: Fun with Validators

2007-03-22 Thread Kevin Dangoor
development path on to our own. cheers. -chris -- Kevin Dangoor TurboGears email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] company: http://www.BlazingThings.com blog: http://www.BlueSkyOnMars.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[TurboGears] Re: Online Turbogears documentation

2007-03-10 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Mar 10, 2007, at 3:39 PM, iain duncan wrote: On Sat, 2007-10-03 at 18:22 +0100, Alberto Valverde wrote: On Mar 10, 2007, at 6:13 PM, Florent Aide wrote: it works fine from here On 3/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found this link somewhere which is supposed to

[tg-trunk] application/json

2007-02-28 Thread Kevin Dangoor
I think it would be a good idea to start using application/json in the various json bits of our code... http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4627.txt Kevin -- Kevin Dangoor TurboGears / Zesty News email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] company: http://www.BlazingThings.com blog: http://www.BlueSkyOnMars.com

[tg-trunk] Re: Transaction filter

2007-02-28 Thread Kevin Dangoor
out of expose and put it into a tool. (Alternatively we could create some middleware to do this...) --Mark -- Kevin Dangoor TurboGears / Zesty News email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] company: http://www.BlazingThings.com blog: http://www.BlueSkyOnMars.com

[tg-trunk] Re: Config files

2007-02-27 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On 2/27/07, Mark Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But the real question (as Kevin noticed, in spite of my obtuseness) is how we deal with the tree/app config split. Mounting sub-applications in trees is one of the main things we need at my work, it would be great if we could work this out in a

[tg-trunk] Re: Config files

2007-02-26 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Feb 26, 2007, at 7:42 PM, Mark Ramm wrote: So now that CherryPy config is pretty much global config only, any thoughts on how we should best manage configuration files in TurboGears 1.1 in order to provide some level of backwards compatibility to our users? I'll respond with a

[TurboGears] Re: TGWebservices getting started

2007-02-18 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Feb 17, 2007, at 4:00 PM, Abe wrote: Kevin (and other pythonistas), Is the sample code for the times2 web service what needs to be written in controllers.py in my TG app? In controllers.py or some similar file. You could make an api.py file to hold your web service api. They web

[TurboGears] Re: Announcing TGWebServices 1.0

2007-02-12 Thread Kevin Dangoor
, which has a simular mission? http://sda.iu.edu/turbozsi/ On Feb 9, 3:19 pm, Kevin Dangoor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm pleased to announce the release of TGWebServices 1.0: multiprotocol web services for TurboGears. http://tgwebservices.python-hosting.com/ More info: TurboGears

[TurboGears] Announcing TGWebServices 1.0

2007-02-09 Thread Kevin Dangoor
classes * Works with TurboGears 1.0 * MIT license allows for unrestricted use -- Kevin Dangoor TurboGears / Zesty News email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] company: http://www.BlazingThings.com blog: http://www.BlueSkyOnMars.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message

[tg-trunk] Re: python 2.5 on windows

2007-02-06 Thread Kevin Dangoor
! Regards, Florent Aide ps: Since I have VS2003 at my disposition I can provide ruledispatch and pyprotocols eggs (or other tg related eggs) for win32 on python 2.5 if someone is interested. -- Kevin Dangoor TurboGears email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] company: http://www.BlazingThings.com blog

[tg-trunk] Re: Is there a tg_format=pickle option ?

2007-01-30 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Jan 20, 2007, at 7:19 PM, Joshua Kugler wrote: [I've tried posting this twice: once through Google's smtp servers and once via our smtp servers, (both times with my From address being my Gmail address, which is the address I have registered for Google Groups). I have yet to see it show

[tg-trunk] Fwd: ANN: Pyrex 0.9.5

2007-01-28 Thread Kevin Dangoor
checking handled automatically. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-announce-list Support the Python Software Foundation: http://www.python.org/psf/donations.html -- Kevin Dangoor TurboGears email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] company: http://www.BlazingThings.com blog

[tg-trunk] Re: fork the 1.1 branch (and the wish list)?

2007-01-26 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Jan 25, 2007, at 10:17 PM, iain duncan wrote: On Thu, 2007-25-01 at 21:54 -0500, Kevin Dangoor wrote: On Jan 25, 2007, at 6:55 AM, Jorge Godoy wrote: My main concern is with the stability of what we called stable code :-) And the introduction of toscawidgets, genshi by default

[tg-trunk] Re: How about a model CRUD template generator with tg-admin command?

2007-01-26 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Jan 18, 2007, at 11:32 AM, Alberto Valverde wrote: On Jan 17, 2007, at 5:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi: Recently I was thinking that DataController needs some refresh air, I prefer the explicit code for edit rather than the DataController, which works like the magic :-)

[tg-trunk] Re: fork the 1.1 branch (and the wish list)?

2007-01-25 Thread Kevin Dangoor
or 1.1) in svn to experiment these features? -- Kevin Dangoor TurboGears email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] company: http://www.BlazingThings.com blog: http://www.BlueSkyOnMars.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed

[tg-trunk] Re: fork the 1.1 branch (and the wish list)?

2007-01-25 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Jan 25, 2007, at 6:55 AM, Jorge Godoy wrote: My main concern is with the stability of what we called stable code :-) And the introduction of toscawidgets, genshi by default, sqlalchemy, etc. are not a minor change IMVHO. The move to Genshi is actually pretty easy, typically. (It

[TurboGears] Re: Display Shelf TurboGears widget

2007-01-19 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Jan 19, 2007, at 5:53 AM, Jorge Godoy wrote: Kevin Dangoor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm pleased to announce the Display Shelf TurboGears (+Flex) widget that James Ward and I created today: http://www.blueskyonmars.com/2007/01/18/introducing-the- displayshelf-widget/ As far as I

[TurboGears] Re: Display Shelf TurboGears widget

2007-01-19 Thread Kevin Dangoor
\On Jan 19, 2007, at 6:39 AM, Jorge Godoy wrote: What are the free tools to develop new widgets like this on the Flash side? If there aren't many -- or any --, then we'll also be just consumers and never producers or innovators with this kind of technology... You can download the free

[TurboGears] Re: Display Shelf TurboGears widget

2007-01-19 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On 1/19/07, Jorge Godoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There should be some fallback... :-( Removing some effects but making the application accessible. I have no idea why Flex 2 requires Flash 9. I'm not sure if that was a technical or marketing decision. How can I bookmark the viewing of the

[TurboGears] cogbin is back

2007-01-11 Thread Kevin Dangoor
I just thought I'd mention that I brought the cogbin back online a couple days ago... -- Kevin Dangoor TurboGears email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] company: http://www.BlazingThings.com blog: http://www.BlueSkyOnMars.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received

[TurboGears] Re: What TG 1.0 is missing and needs

2007-01-09 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Jan 8, 2007, at 4:26 PM, iain duncan wrote: Personally, my instinct would be to go with: - 1.0 Stable - download from site(s), always available with mirrors as tarballs ( this does not currently exist, I have no idea why ) - 1.1 Devel - Testing beta version of new features for us all to

[TurboGears] Re: Pycon 2007 Sprint?

2007-01-05 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Jan 5, 2007, at 8:07 PM, Karl Guertin wrote: On 1/5/07, David Stanek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If there is enough interest and people to sprint I may end up organizing one after Pycon. If anyone is going to Pycon and would like to be involved let me know. I'll post *most* announcements

[TurboGears] reminder: irc chat today at 12PM EST/5PM GMT

2007-01-03 Thread Kevin Dangoor
#turbogears on irc.freenode.net --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TurboGears group. To post to this group, send email to turbogears@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to

[TurboGears] Re: TurboGears 1.0 is out???

2007-01-03 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On 1/3/07, Karl Guertin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/3/07, Steve Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just installed TG on a new machine and was surprised to get something called TurboGears 1.0. Not b1, not b2, not b3. But 1.0. The site now says TurboGears 1.0 with a date of Jan 3. Yes,

[TurboGears] TurboGears 1.0 released, TG has a new leader (and a new hosting company, too)

2007-01-03 Thread Kevin Dangoor
I made a few announcements during today's IRC chat. You can find the IRC transcript starting at 17:00 here, but the highlights also follow in this message: http://irclog.turbogears.org/archive/freenode/turbogears/2007/01/03 TurboGears 1.0, which has a number of bug fixes since 1.0b2, has

[TurboGears] Re: update on the site

2007-01-02 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Jan 2, 2007, at 5:10 AM, Christopher Arndt wrote: Kevin Dangoor schrieb: 2) anonymous access to svn does not yet work (I know what to do here, but I can't actually do it at the moment due to what appears to be a control panel glitch) Is it possible to mirror the SVN repository

[TurboGears] Re: update on the site

2007-01-02 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Jan 2, 2007, at 5:10 AM, Christopher Arndt wrote: Kevin Dangoor schrieb: 2) anonymous access to svn does not yet work (I know what to do here, but I can't actually do it at the moment due to what appears to be a control panel glitch) Is it possible to mirror the SVN repository

[tg-trunk] TurboGears svn moved - important if you use svn checkouts

2007-01-01 Thread Kevin Dangoor
hands with our hosts at WebFaction. Thanks for your patience while the site has been problematic... (and be sure to attend the IRC chat on Wednesday!) Kevin -- Kevin Dangoor TurboGears email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] company: http://www.BlazingThings.com blog: http://www.BlueSkyOnMars.com

[TurboGears] web site move / where to download

2007-01-01 Thread Kevin Dangoor
that will continue to work while we're moving things. My apologies for the large amount of downtime over the past few days. The WebFaction host is almost certainly going to be far more reliable. Kevin -- Kevin Dangoor TurboGears / Zesty News email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] company: http://www.BlazingThings.com

[TurboGears] TurboGears svn moved - important if you use svn checkouts

2007-01-01 Thread Kevin Dangoor
hands with our hosts at WebFaction. Thanks for your patience while the site has been problematic... (and be sure to attend the IRC chat on Wednesday!) Kevin -- Kevin Dangoor TurboGears email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] company: http://www.BlazingThings.com blog: http://www.BlueSkyOnMars.com

[TurboGears] update on the site

2007-01-01 Thread Kevin Dangoor
that is not on that list above. Thanks! Kevin -- Kevin Dangoor TurboGears / Zesty News email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] company: http://www.BlazingThings.com blog: http://www.BlueSkyOnMars.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[TurboGears] trac temporarily turned off

2006-12-31 Thread Kevin Dangoor
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[TurboGears] Re: http://www.turbogears.org down??

2006-12-31 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Dec 31, 2006, at 1:53 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DMT wrote: There are a lot of people that have done a great job helping this project and taking the time from their personal lives to do so, let's not assume because of my post everyone is a slacker. That is for sure not the case. I

[TurboGears] Re: http://www.turbogears.org down??

2006-12-31 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Dec 31, 2006, at 7:15 PM, Patrick Lewis wrote: And down again. :-( Responds to pings, but no http. Interesting. That one was something different. The normal failure mode when Trac was enabled was that the whole server would be fairly unresponsive (very high load avg). In this case,

[TurboGears] Special TurboGears IRC chat event on January 3rd

2006-12-27 Thread Kevin Dangoor
I'll be hosting a chat on #turbogears on irc.freenode.net at 12PM Eastern/5PM GMT on Wednesday, January 3rd. There'll be an announcement or two, a special guest and talk of TG 2.0. Feel free to bring your questions along! See you then! Kevin -- Kevin Dangoor TurboGears email: [EMAIL

[tg-trunk] Re: ToscaWidgets Pylons sample: initial http request fails

2006-12-23 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Dec 21, 2006, at 3:55 PM, Bill wrote: A bit of confusion here. I originally posted this on the pylons-discuss group but it didn't show up for hours so I thought something was wrong. I decided to then post here to see if it would get through to Alberto one way or another. Well, a day

[TurboGears] Re: Guidelines for Sites using TurboGears section

2006-12-23 Thread Kevin Dangoor
. I have just learned tg for this project and as I become more familiar with it I hope to be able to contribute wherever I can. Thanks, Kevin Corcoran -- Kevin Dangoor TurboGears / Zesty News email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] company: http://www.BlazingThings.com blog: http://www.BlueSkyOnMars.com

[tg-trunk] Re: ToscaWidgets and Pylons: should I post here?

2006-12-20 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On 12/20/06, Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been experimenting with the Pylons ToscaWidgets sample. I have been doing some debugging. Should I report my analysis here or on the pylons-discuss group? This is a good place to talk about ToscaWidgets-related issues. Kevin

[tg-trunk] Re: Porting FastDataGrid to SA and ToscaWidgets.

2006-12-19 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Dec 16, 2006, at 7:44 PM, thesamet wrote: Sounds interesting for TGFastData 2.0... Have you thought about contributing to this badly-needing-a-mockup TG component? Yes. That's the intent. Sorry for not chiming in earlier. I'd be happy to give you access to the repository so that you

[tg-trunk] Re: TG/Paster/Cheetah

2006-12-13 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Dec 13, 2006, at 10:47 AM, Ian Bicking wrote: Will it cause any problems in TurboGears if Paste Script stops requiring Cheetah in the next release? I don't think that you are using Cheetah in your project templates, but I'm not clear on that. If Paste Script stops requiring Cheetah

[tg-trunk] Re: milestone 2.0 in trac

2006-12-13 Thread Kevin Dangoor
investigate what happen. -- Kevin Dangoor TurboGears / Zesty News email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] company: http://www.BlazingThings.com blog: http://www.BlueSkyOnMars.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[TurboGears] Re: sqlalchemy and run_with_transaction

2006-12-12 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Dec 12, 2006, at 3:11 PM, Dennis Muhlestein wrote: Hmmm, this makes me wonder... have you tried: def _check_no_trans(func): return getattr(func_original(func), '_no_trans', False) and _use_sa() @run_with_transaction(_check_no_trans(func)) def sadsadfsdf(): .

[tg-trunk] Re: Significant fix may require new release

2006-12-11 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Dec 10, 2006, at 5:02 PM, Adam Jones wrote: Kevin, where is your time machine? We need to get a Dangoor army put together to work on TG 3.0. Unfortunately, the time machine doesn't isn't slated until TG 4.0. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message

[tg-trunk] Re: ToscaWidgets to bundle jQuery

2006-12-11 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Dec 11, 2006, at 2:40 PM, Alberto Valverde wrote: So now my plan for action is: 1) new ToscaWidgetsMochi egg with the mochikit widget 2) new ToscaWidgetsJQuery egg with the jQuery widget and wrappers for the cool accordions, tabs, bells and whistles. 3) js_interface.core.EventAware bye,

[tg-trunk] Re: TurboGears 2.0

2006-12-07 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Dec 7, 2006, at 2:35 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another question: Will ToscaWidgets be 2.0's default widgets? Yes, that's the plan. Kevin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TurboGears

[TurboGears] Re: Why update_config() in config.py won't add default paths to config if no modulename param?

2006-12-04 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Nov 29, 2006, at 8:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was looking at source of update_config in turbogears/config.py. **ONLY** when a modulename param is passed does the config receive standard default paths such as top_level_dir, package_dir current_dir_uri. Can someone please

[TurboGears] Rapid Web Applications with TurboGears available in PDF

2006-12-04 Thread Kevin Dangoor
charges for the print version. I don't have any control over that, but this is an option for folks who need it... -- Kevin Dangoor TurboGears / Zesty News email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] company: http://www.BlazingThings.com blog: http://www.BlueSkyOnMars.com

[tg-trunk] Re: TurboGears 2.0

2006-12-01 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Dec 1, 2006, at 12:52 PM, Max Ischenko wrote: Looks like I have missed something. What is the alternative for Identity? Alberto created an alternative authorization scheme (TurboPeakSecurity?). My biggest gripe with Identity as it stands now is that it too tightly couples

[tg-trunk] all 1.0 commits need a ticket

2006-12-01 Thread Kevin Dangoor
-- Kevin Dangoor TurboGears / Zesty News email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] company: http://www.BlazingThings.com blog: http://www.BlueSkyOnMars.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TurboGears Trunk group. To post

[TurboGears] Re: URGENT set up is broken/down

2006-12-01 Thread Kevin Dangoor
Hi Iain, On Dec 1, 2006, at 2:14 AM, iain duncan wrote: As far as I can tell, it is currently impossible to install from the turbogears site without hacking of setup scripts beyond my ken. I would say this is a serious issue, as it seems there is no backup install plan beyond the main

[TurboGears] Re: new 1.0b2 candidate up

2006-12-01 Thread Kevin Dangoor
: Can't download http://files.turbogears.org/eggs/TurboGears-1.0b2-py2.4.eg g: 404 Not Found - Please tell me it's something simple? :) -- Kevin Dangoor TurboGears / Zesty News email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] company: http://www.BlazingThings.com blog: http://www.BlueSkyOnMars.com

[TurboGears] TurboGears 1.0b2 released (mostly :)

2006-11-30 Thread Kevin Dangoor
I'll send an announcement to the announcements list once we have a proper changelog together. Kevin -- Kevin Dangoor TurboGears / Zesty News email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] company: http://www.BlazingThings.com blog: http://www.BlueSkyOnMars.com

[tg-trunk] TurboGears 2.0

2006-11-29 Thread Kevin Dangoor
out what to do with Identity in general, since we have an alternative model that's been put forth...) Kevin -- Kevin Dangoor TurboGears / Zesty News email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] company: http://www.BlazingThings.com blog: http://www.BlueSkyOnMars.com

[TurboGears] Re: Purpose of ''modulename'' param in update_config invocation of start script?

2006-11-29 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Nov 29, 2006, at 1:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the reply! My apologies for not catching that docstring myself. I've been squeamish about peeling back the covers and looking at the source code. I'll try that now. I've already stood up one site with TG and am working

[TurboGears] Re: new 1.0b2 candidate up

2006-11-29 Thread Kevin Dangoor
tgsetup.py works fine, 1.0b2 tgsetup.py does not. Of course it's still possible I'm doing something silly, but I don't think so... Keith Kevin Dangoor wrote: Sorry about the delay. I was out of town most of last week. I've fixed the bind_meta_data problem and the tgsetup.py on Windows

[TurboGears] Re: try out this 1.0b2 candidate and new installer

2006-11-28 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Nov 21, 2006, at 1:06 AM, iain duncan wrote: By the way, for those handful of people who were wary of the LGPL: if you use tgsetup with the --future option, that eliminates the one piece of LGPLed code in use by TG. The LGPL really shouldn't a concern, but I know that it's come up a

[TurboGears] Re: try out this 1.0b2 candidate and new installer

2006-11-28 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Nov 21, 2006, at 5:49 AM, Spider wrote: I haven't tagged 1.0b2 yet, but I wanted to put one out there as a test. http://www.turbogears.org/test/ I tested this under windows. Playing the part of the dumb user, I went to python.org and downloaded and installed python. Then I downloaded

[TurboGears] Re: try out this 1.0b2 candidate and new installer

2006-11-28 Thread Kevin Dangoor
a Python interactive session. Just import turbogears complains that turbogears.config can't be imported. I'm going to archive my current python installation and try from a clean install next. -- Tim Lesher [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Kevin Dangoor TurboGears / Zesty News email: [EMAIL

[TurboGears] new 1.0b2 candidate up

2006-11-28 Thread Kevin Dangoor
of TurboGears, which means that one version of tgsetup can download the current release, the next one coming up, a nightly build, whatever... we can do some useful things with that. Kevin -- Kevin Dangoor TurboGears / Zesty News email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] company: http://www.BlazingThings.com

[tg-trunk] Re: Any plan toward CherryPy 3?

2006-11-27 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Nov 27, 2006, at 12:40 PM, fumanchu wrote: Kevin Dangoor wrote: That said, the decorators are the part of TG that needs the most work. The idea will be to simplify them dramatically by moving most of the actual decoration out so that the decorators themselves really just register

[tg-trunk] Re: Any plan toward CherryPy 3?

2006-11-27 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Nov 25, 2006, at 10:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin Dangoor 寫道: How is Genshi porting not easy to solve? Seriously, I think we just replace Kid with Genshi and fix up the breakage. sitetemplate will likely disappear. While I monkey-ported toolbox to genshi, most parts are ok

[TurboGears] Re: Lack of focus and BDFL

2006-11-18 Thread Kevin Dangoor
Hi Ulysses, Thanks for the detailed email. I should note that while my activity on the mailing list has been greatly reduced since May, I've always been behind the scenes guiding things as needed. If you saw my email message from a few days back, you'll see where I think I've been

[TurboGears] Rapid Web Applications with TurboGears now available!

2006-11-15 Thread Kevin Dangoor
The new TurboGears book, Rapid Web Applications with TurboGears, was officially published on November 9th. I received my copies from the publisher yesterday and booksellers should start getting them in stock within the next few days. Amazon is currently listing the book as shipping within 1-3

[TurboGears] Re: Fear, Frustration and Despair

2006-11-15 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Nov 14, 2006, at 6:23 PM, Michael Steinfeld wrote: On 11/14/06, Jorge Vargas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/14/06, Michael Steinfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: File /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/TurboGears-1.0b1-py2.4.egg/ turbogears/__init__.py,

[TurboGears] Re: Fear, Frustration and Despair

2006-11-14 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Nov 14, 2006, at 9:07 AM, Thomas Weholt wrote: I've been a fan of Turbogears since the first announcement, but recently I've become more and more sceptical about using it. It's ok to build a framework on third-party modules, but in turbogears this is beginning to look crazy. Just look

[TurboGears] Re: Who are the core TurboGears developers?

2006-11-14 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Nov 14, 2006, at 5:30 PM, Jorge Godoy wrote: The book is already there. :-) It was released last weekend. ;-) http://www.blueskyonmars.com/2006/11/14/turbogears-book-is-out- photographic-evidence-here/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message

[TurboGears] Re: *You* can help the TurboGears project. Here's how!

2006-11-13 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Nov 13, 2006, at 2:26 AM, Steve Holden wrote: ... I suspect what's either (possibly) missing or (more likely) not currently pointed to determinedly enough is an architectural overview showing the API relationships of the current bits. The famous graphic is OK in terms of the gross

[TurboGears] Re: Wiki 20 tutorial rewrite completed, comments appreciated

2006-11-13 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Nov 13, 2006, at 10:19 PM, Karl Guertin wrote: On 11/13/06, Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why don't we start out with SO-only documents. Then we can identity the portions that vary between DB platforms and develop plug-in replacements for the SO bits. Sure, I'm willing to do

[TurboGears] mailing list backlog

2006-11-13 Thread Kevin Dangoor
I just released a bunch of messages that had been queued in the mailing list. I wanted to let everyone know that the big surge in spam recently has caused a couple of things:1) unusually large numbers of messages going into the moderation queue2) some people's messages are being flagged as

[TurboGears] *You* can help the TurboGears project. Here's how!

2006-11-11 Thread Kevin Dangoor
Hi everyone, It's been 4 months already since I started working for Arbor Networks, after a year and a half of independent working. In those 4 months, I've finished working on the book with Mark, put on an entirely new presentation at GLSEC and settled into a routine. With the dust

[TurboGears] Re: ActiveMapper

2006-11-10 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On 11/10/06, Ilias Lazaridis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The technical facts are very clear. TurboGears is essentially a toy as long as is cannot rely on a industry-standard-compliant (at least a subset) persistency-layer. I hope that the project-lead will realize this, despite the desperate

[TurboGears] Trac is having problems

2006-11-10 Thread Kevin Dangoor
I don't know why, but my error log is getting a bunch of these:[Fri Nov 10 22:45:49 2006] [error] [client 66.249.66.237] PythonHandler trac.web.modpython_frontend: Traceback (most recent call last):[Fri Nov 10 22:45:49 2006] [error] [client 66.249.66.237] PythonHandler trac.web.modpython_frontend: 

[tg-trunk] Re: Support testing the code that uses identity

2006-11-01 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Nov 1, 2006, at 12:10 AM, Max Ischenko wrote:Hi,I have submitted a patch which should make it easier to test the code that uses identity, please see http://trac.turbogears.org/turbogears/ticket/1166 . If no one objects, I'll commit within a few days. Btw, if it is accepted, should I commit it

[TurboGears] Re: TypeError: decoding Unicode is not supported

2006-11-01 Thread Kevin Dangoor
StringCol and UnicodeCol could cause this? I never thought about it but maybe I need to upgrade all the columns to be Unicode instead of having mixed Unicode/String Cols. I'll see what that does later today. -Ian On 10/31/06, Kevin Dangoor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't follow

[TurboGears] Re: kid drives me crazy

2006-10-31 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Oct 31, 2006, at 2:52 AM, Stuart Clarke wrote: Is anyone planning to write a memcached caching mechanism for Genshi? I love the whole templates are correct XHTML and editable in insert name of favourite web editor here factor. But until I can memcached from these templating

[TurboGears] Re: last chance for PyCon talks!

2006-10-31 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Oct 31, 2006, at 2:41 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dang all those dudes are going to be there? What about the other turbogears crew they all coming? I mean cherrypy and etc. It's variable... we're scattered all over the place. Bob Brewer, who did the bulk of the CP3 work, was at PyCon

[TurboGears] Re: last chance for PyCon talks!

2006-10-31 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Oct 31, 2006, at 6:06 AM, Bob Ippolito wrote: On 10/30/06, Kevin Dangoor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tomorrow (Halloween) is that last day to submit talk proposals for PyCon 2007 (in Dallas)! It's a great event, and I'd certainly recommend it. Good crowd to hang around with lots of smart

[TurboGears] Re: Startup/restart time

2006-10-31 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Oct 31, 2006, at 9:08 AM, Steve Holden wrote: fumanchu wrote: Steve Holden wrote: Is it just me, or does CherryPy take a *really* long time to start up and restart? How long is *really* long? Longer than 1.5 seconds? Way longer. Longer by an order of magnitude. But Kevin has

[TurboGears] Re: Turbogears.org is so sloooooowwww

2006-10-31 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Oct 31, 2006, at 11:17 AM, percious wrote: Anyone else experiencing this? Anyone know why? It seems fine to me now (about 6 hours after this message) Kevin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[TurboGears] Re: Turbogears website

2006-10-31 Thread Kevin Dangoor
the contributors of the project. It is exactly the solution I was looking for. Tansu -- Kevin Dangoor TurboGears / Zesty News email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] company: http://www.BlazingThings.com blog: http://www.BlueSkyOnMars.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received

[TurboGears] Re: PyCon 2007 tutorials

2006-10-31 Thread Kevin Dangoor
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[TurboGears] Re: TypeError: decoding Unicode is not supported

2006-10-31 Thread Kevin Dangoor
=utf8 to your sqlobject.dburi in dev.cfg. Max. -- Kevin Dangoor TurboGears / Zesty News email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] company: http://www.BlazingThings.com blog: http://www.BlueSkyOnMars.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you

[tg-trunk] Re: packaging change

2006-10-30 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Oct 30, 2006, at 7:21 AM, Alastair Houghton wrote: BTW, as you're talking about detecting the need for sudo and the suchlike, on Mac OS X, I tend to prefer setting my PATH to include the bin folder in the Python framework, rather than installing the binary files that live in there into

[TurboGears] Re: Install problem on Windows XP

2006-10-30 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Oct 30, 2006, at 12:57 PM, cwurld wrote: I tried posting this a few hours ago, but it did not appear, so I will try again. Sorry if it appears twice. To eliminate spam (and we toss out a fair bit), new members are moderated. (I flip that bit after I let a message through.) I am trying

[TurboGears] Re: Startup/restart time

2006-10-30 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Oct 30, 2006, at 5:46 AM, Steve Holden wrote: Is it just me, or does CherryPy take a *really* long time to start up and restart? It's not you (and I don't think it's CherryPy). We've got a lot of code that gets imported when you import turbogears. I've been thinking about ways to deal

[TurboGears] Re: Startup/restart time

2006-10-30 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Oct 30, 2006, at 7:18 PM, m h wrote: You've probably already heard of it, but bazaar (bzr) is using lazy imports to improve startup time. The latest release, 0.12, cut startup time by 50%. Yes, lazy imports is specifically one area that I've considered. I don't think I can do it

[TurboGears] Re: Startup/restart time

2006-10-30 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Oct 30, 2006, at 7:56 PM, John M Camara wrote: Below is a few lines from profiling a new quick start application. All I did was create an app via quick start, modified the startup file to enable profiling, started the server, viewed the home page of the app, and then hit the browser

[TurboGears] Re: how to retrieve cherrypy REQUEST informations

2006-10-30 Thread Kevin Dangoor
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[TurboGears] last chance for PyCon talks!

2006-10-30 Thread Kevin Dangoor
room as Bob Ippolito. Or Phillip Eby. Or Ian Bicking. If we're lucky, the elusive but wonderfully prolific Mike Bayer might be in attendance. So, hopefully some folks will propose talks, but it would be good for you to at least be there! Kevin -- Kevin Dangoor TurboGears / Zesty News email

[TurboGears] Re: Announcing TurboSetup 0.2 -- Revenge of the Mailing List Spam

2006-10-30 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Oct 30, 2006, at 6:36 PM, Adam Jones wrote: Until I have something that is more useful than an incomplete gathering of components, additional updates will be posted at the following address(es) to cut down on mailing list spam: http://www.recursivethought.com/blog/tags/view/turbosetup

[TurboGears] Re: Install problem on Windows XP

2006-10-30 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Oct 30, 2006, at 7:39 PM, cwurld wrote: Thanks for your efforts filtering spam. Yes, I can run python from the command line. I can run other executables that are in the python scripts folder from the command line. I am wondering if I should remove TG and start the install over.

[TurboGears] Re: TurboEntity

2006-10-30 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Oct 30, 2006, at 11:06 AM, Jonathan LaCour wrote: For those of you who haven't seen yet: http://turboentity.ematia.de/ Its a declarative layer on top of SQLAlchemy a'la ActiveMapper (and apparently heavily inspired by ActiveMapper according to the source). It feels much more like

[tg-trunk] packaging change

2006-10-29 Thread Kevin Dangoor
and to install the tg-admin script in the right place. Kevin -- Kevin Dangoor TurboGears / Zesty News email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] company: http://www.BlazingThings.com blog: http://www.BlueSkyOnMars.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you

[tg-trunk] Re: Widget API NG proposal

2006-10-27 Thread Kevin Dangoor
On Oct 26, 2006, at 7:26 AM, Alberto Valverde wrote: Damn! He's right! Not being very familiar with embedding WSGI apps I have totally overlooked this scenario when I designed the interface to the hosting framework. There's probably some object at paste.registry which can help with

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