I'm doing some research for a talk and am interested in hearing from people
who are running (or have run) transaction processing systems on both U2 and
SQL Server. What are your intuitions and/or facts about the differences in
cost of ownership between these two environments? Do you think the COA
I know I've read about this topic on the list before, but it is hard to find
with a search because of all of the URL's with php in them.
What are the options for communicating with UniData from PHP? Thanks. --dawn
--
Dawn M. Wolthuis
Tincat Group, Inc.
Take and give some delight today!
---
, beyond leading you to ODBC
support info, but you may find that it leads to more.
- Charles Ph.P Barouch
Dawn Wolthuis wrote:
I know I've read about this topic on the list before, but it is hard to
find
with a search because of all of the URL's with php in them.
What are the options
On 9/21/05, Hennessey, Mark F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've been tasked to try to find a solution to some of our reporting
issues. One way would be to get some of our power users additional training
in UniVerse/Retrieve, etc.
I'm thinking a better (or maybe just different) approach might be
Hi Jeff -- If I am recalling IBM's response to that correctly, it was
strictly a marketing decision -- people don't like adopting dot-oh versions,
so now they don't have to.
--dawn
--
Dawn M. Wolthuis
Tincat Group, Inc.
Take and give some delight today!
On 9/22/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL
I don't know about courses, but I did write something that might help. It
hasn't been converted from flashcards to the web flawlessly, but take a look
at my little MultiValue Triology at
http://tincat-group.com/mv/trilogy.html. You might combine that with
Jon Sisk's PICK BASIC book that is online
After I moved to a small city in Iowa a couple of years ago, someone at
church asked me if I could help get his company's IT function more smoothly,
so I did a few hours of consulting for him over the next couple of months. I
asked him what database his company used and he said Informix so it was
So how long will it take the industry to figure out that if you can keep
data in an xml-like data model for the life of the data, rather than ever
putting it in 1NF, it will be easier (and less expensive) for everyone?
--dawn
On 10/5/05, Results [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Scott,
Yes. I was doing
On 11/21/05, Stephen O'Neal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This last weekend, we attained a new high number of users on a U2 database
of 15,200 on a single system running an application!
Tim Snyder, Principle Consultant of the U2 Lab Services group, performed
this formal benchmark at one of the
On 11/28/05, Gahan, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I thought I read somewhere that Unidata allowed a user to associate
un-associated multi-value fields on the fly within a LIST or SORT
statement.
However, never having used it - nor being able to find it in any
documentation, I'm wondering if
On 12/2/05, Marilyn Hilb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ohoh. I like that!
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mats Carlid
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 2:43 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject:Re: [U2] [UV] is
On 12/8/05, Martin Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Denny,
Does anyone know of any software for Unix which is compatible
with the old PR1MOS Editor?
I had to blow the dust off my old copy of the Hacker's Guide to the
Prime
to remind myself about the Primos ED command. Dare I ask why
On 12/19/05, Brutzman, Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Aside from U2 Personal Edition, are there any multi-value products like
say
IBM's CloudScape that do multi-value?
Are you asking only about IBM products or are you asking for all databases
that permit multivalues?
I don't know the answer
I sent an announcement to u2-community this morning, but thought I
would also notify this group, recognizing some of you are getting
multiple announcments. I have launched a blog today at
http://www.tincat-group.com/mewsings
It mentions U2 along with other MultiValue products. I will be
On 1/30/06, George Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How do you prevent in Unidata someone from using SQL to update (or
delete) your Unidata data while at the same time
allow them the ability to read the data with such tools as Excel and/ or
Crystal Reports.
You probably won't like this
On 1/30/06, George Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Phil,
I would have preferred that you would have said In [UD] as opposed to
[UV]... :)
Grs
Are you sure that you cannot do similarly with the SQL GRANT SELECT
... statement in UD? Are you currently doing a GRANT ALL? I haven't
looked in a
On 1/30/06, Gordon J Glorfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
George,
These are 2 separate issues. Tools such as Excel and Crystal Reports do
not utilize an SQL interface to access the data in UD. They actually use
the ODBC interface.
Ah, I think you are missing one key point -- ODBC is a
On 1/31/06, Walter Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We are looking extremely hard at moving our company to an MRP/DM vertical
solution written to run on the UniVerse platform. Our internal staff has
dozens
of years experience with filePro, mySQL, PHP, perl... yet we have no
experience
On 2/1/06, Wendy Smoak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2/1/06, Nick Cipollina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Check out http://www.discoverycomputersystems.com/ I got my Universe
training at Marcie's school. She now only does onsite training, but she
is definitely one of the best instructors I have
On 2/6/06, craig.cauchi (sent by Nabble.com) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there a more efficent driver for extracting data from Unidata via SQL/ODBC?
I researched this about five years ago and kept somewhat up to date
through UniData 6.1. I was looking for read-only (which I suspect is
also the
On 2/27/06, Brutzman, Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I expect that they will post it in the near term at www.javasig.com.
Ben demo'd AJAX techniques by coding from scratch with the IntelliJ IDE on a
Mac notebook, in front of the ~250 attendees there, an AJAX zip code lookup
thing. He talked
On 3/4/06, will [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is anyone actively selling mv data base systems? Does IBM have a
proactive sales program for the U2 products? What is the forecasted
increase (decrease) in mv installations?
Will
I'm pretty sure we cannot get a complete answer to
On 3/6/06, will [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks for the excellent answer, Dawn. I think that we all need to be
proactive in promoting the technology in which we have so many years
invested. It's effective, intuitive and ... just won't be buried in the
onslaught of alphabet soup contenders.
On 3/16/06, Mike Preece [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've been holding back from putting this question, in the hope that the
initiative might come from within U2UG, but it seems high time...
Many, including both Clif and me, were vocal about this change
immediately. I have seen changes like this
On 4/11/06, Sharyl Lindsay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ever since they changed the 'reply to' from the list to a person, I
feel the list has died a slow death. I've been thinking of unsubscribing
myself but I just can't bring myself to lose the chance to stop learning
*something* just because I
I am not normally in the head hunter business, but I have a colleague
who is looking for a full-time developer with experience writing
software using the Datatel Envision case tool with UniData. This
position may be remote from anywhere in the US. If interested, please
send me your resume
If you get a chance, you might enjoy (perhaps that is overstating it)
reading my latest blog entry entitled To Whom Should Size Matter? at
http://www.tincat-group.com/mewsings
After putting energy into such writings, it is nice to hear from
others. Do you agree, disagree, think I'm an idiot
Perhaps we should send him a note with a lot of signatures thanking
him for mentioning Pick on occasion and letting him know (which he
likely does already) that we are alive and well (perhaps pointing him
to the MV family tree or other materials). Cheers! --dawn
On 11/8/06, Charles Barouch
Once again I am aware of a likely need for Envision (Datatel
proprietary) programmers (different company than last time, and, no,
I'm not really a head hunter).
Envision experience is important. However, we might also be able to
consider those who know UniData and are interested in learning the
I should perhaps put this on the U2C list, but I'll second some of
Tony's impressions of Cache'. I am starting a new venture (adventure)
and have selected Cache', using their MV tools as well as their AJAX
tools, for the platform.
In my case, I have done a few talks here and there in the past
] On Behalf Of Dawn Wolthuis
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 2:36 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] U2 / Cache
I should perhaps put this on the U2C list, but I'll second some of
Tony's impressions of Cache'. I am starting a new venture (adventure)
and have selected Cache', using their MV
veterans. --dawn
On 4/17/07, Anthony W. Youngman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In message
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Dawn
Wolthuis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
They bought out most of MUMPS and seem to have enough former PIck
folks there who were saying that it was a similar situation of needing
to take Pick apps
Hi Jerry -- I started responding and decided I wasn't certain about
some points so I passed your question along. I will get back to you on
this when I get a response. What I do know is that the file structures
look the same to any application software, but different to the OS.
I can also pass
On 4/17/07, Baker Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks, Dawn, for that thorough response.
You mention the helpdesk project at IBM. Susie S. told the Spectrum
gathering at Long Beach that the embedded db is UniVerse.
Perhaps we're not speaking of the same project. I was also told by
others
I'll pass along this answer on both u2-users and u2-community, but
please respond on community since this is not about U2, per se.
Thanks. See below. --dawn
On 4/17/07, Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dawn,
One thing I don't think you mentioned is the file structure. Tell me if I'm
wrong. The
Laughing.
Yes, you get columns in tables where there are rows, but attributes or
fields in files with records or items. A multi-valued column is a
mixture of terms. On the other hand, a multivalue column could be a
multi-valued attribute (let's call it MVATTR) in an sql-ized file in
U2 (we will
then could I let the users back on the system.
Jerry
- Original Message -
From: Dawn Wolthuis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 11:15 AM
Subject: Spam:Re: Spam:Re: [U2] RE: [U2C] U2 / Cache
Hi Jerry -- I started responding and decided I wasn't
I'm pretty sure you are right about that, David. We had them explain
transactions and it sounds like it makes complete sense to use that
feature in Cache' where I have never used it in U2. --dawn
Dawn M. Wolthuis
Tincat Group, Inc.
On 4/17/07, David Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One thing
Cache' is the evolution of MUMPS and now also some of the evolution of
Pick. For timing, Don Nelson designed the query language in the early
to mid 60's where the MUMPS designer worked in the mid to late 60's,
so MUMPS lags slightly behind, but both were there before Codd's paper
on relations.
for a communication network of many
remote stations and a single computer. What does that sound like to you?
1965?
Jerry
- Original Message -
From: Dawn Wolthuis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 12:00 PM
Subject: Spam:Re: Spam:RE: [U2] U2
Morningside College, in my neck of the woods, uses Aptron on UniVerse.
The Aptron web site likely says how many customer sites they have.
There are some interesting stories in the history of Aptron, though I
know only a little about it.
1) Deb Atkinson Perry, an IBM U2 Sales person now, was the
Dave -- Have you seen the Solutions list at
http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/u2/solutions/
It includes both UniData and UniVerse customers, but should be helpful. --dawn
On 4/27/07, Liesse, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, all. My sales group has a need to convince some prospects that
Sorry, in case it isn't obvious to click on the solutions tab, try
this URL instead
http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/u2/solutions/find.html
On 4/28/07, Dawn Wolthuis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dave -- Have you seen the Solutions list at
http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/u2/solutions
On 4/30/07, Richard Nuckolls [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Okay,
I have been sucked into this conversation:
Ditto.
I would also
suggest that if the UniData folks were satisfied with PI/PI Open/
UniVerse,
they would not have gone to the trouble of creating UniData.
Given the little I know
Yes, I second (or third) that. PI/Open came from the Rev folks and had
nothing to do with UniVerse until it was acquired it after Prime's
demise. --dawn
--
Dawn M. Wolthuis
Tincat Group, Inc.
Take and give some delight today
On 4/30/07, Lance J. Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
PI/pc was a
Oops, yes, that is what I meant. Thanks. --dawn
On 4/30/07, Lance J. Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
that is PI/pc not PI/Open that came from Cosmos...
Dawn Wolthuis wrote:
Yes, I second (or third) that. PI/Open came from the Rev folks and had
nothing to do with UniVerse until
As some of you already know, if you have a new person either in
management or development in a U2 (or other Pick) shop, you can have
them read my little MultiValue Trilogy at
http://www.tincat-group.com/mv/trilogy.html
These are flash cards and they were written with readers to help
with
On 5/10/07, Charles Barouch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All,
Let me respond to some of these... but first:
MOST IMPORTANT! We need content for the learner packs! Please contact
U2UG President Brian Leach with specific offers to help. We need code
examples, well reasoned tutorials, and more.
On 5/11/07, Tony Gravagno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dawn, I'm surprised to see the comments below from someone who spends a
good amount of her time in academia. Bookstores are filled with technical
books which supplement vendor documentation, much of it coming from
educators who know the
Brian -- Good work with everything you have done. I love the new web
site with UniVerse backing it -- super! (when will it be the one we
get to at u2ug.org?)
I like your various utilities. I couldn't find the demo database in
my first pass of late at your web site, but will return again later
Hi Eugene. I did a little googling and didn't read this, but it has
Unidata in it, along with Ellery and the Economic Espionage Act, so
I'm guessing at least some of the story is in here.
https://www.cia.gov/csi/kent_csi/pdf/v44i3a08p.pdf
Enjoy! --dawn
On 5/11/07, Eugene Perry [EMAIL
I can imagine two possible curriculae in which a textbook could work.
The area I have been researching might lend itself to a supplemental
text (far easier to get approved for a course than an actual text
book) within a Computer Science, Information Systems, Database-y
curriculum specifically for
On 5/13/07, Anthony W. Youngman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], MAJ
Programming [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Dawn's recent reply to this thread suggested a few new technologies that
I've never heard of. Silverlite and Firebird sound like car names. IMHO,
I've heard of PHP as a
It sounds like there is enough material among us all to perhaps pull
it together in a single book. If anyone would like to work on pulling
something like that together...
BTW, Is the four-color theorem still one that has only been proven by
computer or is there now an elegant mathematical proof
On 7/12/07, Robert Kubarych [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is anyone aware of any performance benchmarks for UniData 7.1? How does
it stack up against SQL 2005?
Hi Robert --
I searched for some appropriate benchmarks in 2002, but it looked like
all industry standards, such as TCP benchmarks would
On 7/15/07, Tony Gravagno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dawn Wolthuis wrote:
I searched for some appropriate benchmarks in 2002, but it looked like
all industry standards, such as TCP benchmarks would compare apples
and oranges unless comparing only SQL-based functionality and
performance of SQL
Yes, agreed. I think if you start with user requirements for services,
then have folks design for those requirements according to each
environment, that would be a good start. I hesitate to say that it
must be web services only because that might imply use of SOAP or an
XML exchange that could
I agree with Geoffrey, Wol. It would not be pretty, but one could
presumably build a Nelson-Pick datamodel on top of data stored as
relational data are today (easier to put a relational model on PIck
since PIck is more fully featured). There is some tight-coupling
between the logical and
]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dawn Wolthuis
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 4:58 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] UniData 7.1 vs. MS SQL 2005 performance
Yes, agreed. I think if you start with user requirements for services,
then have folks design for those requirements
characters, and he said in fact that he
thought they were. The moral of the story, not really sure, I just
thought it was kind of funny.
Thanks,
Nick Cipollina
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dawn Wolthuis
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 11:22 PM
environments have on the web
Phil (my 2c)
Nick Cipollina
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dawn Wolthuis
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 11:22 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] UniData 7.1 vs. MS SQL 2005 performance
I
Since I have sent this info before, I do not want to be repeating
myself, but there are always new folks on the list, so first I'll pass
this along--
If you do get a new person in your shop and want a short overview to
get them started, check out my little Trilogy at
If I recall correctly (and I might not), you can lobby your VAR to let
all of their customers have access to the knowledgebase and IBM will
open it up to them. (Good luck with that my Datatel-customer friends,
although maybe it has happened and I'm behind the times) smiles.
--dawn
On 7/18/07,
On 7/19/07, Anthony W. Youngman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mats Carlid [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
I really wanted to express two opinions :
1. RDBMS is not more pure maths than Pick.is.
It's just a heavily restricted special case of abstract relation theory.
It's
On 7/20/07, Anthony W. Youngman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In message
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Dawn
Wolthuis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
snip
Mathematicians prove theories correct, Scientists prove theories
wrong.
Computer Science is in the business of proving things correct, therefore
it can't
Thanks for the history and mini-rant, Clif. While little differences
of opinion like this recent one are common in e-mail communities, this
type might be classified as the type found in communities that have
more lock-down rules and are moderated in a way similar to ours.
This might seem like a
I agree, Jeff. That is my point with the suggestion that we eliminate
u2-community and permit discussions like this one, even if not of
interest to all. Let's move back/forward to a list where we permit
discussions on all related topics and let people filter it themselves.
Does anyone else
A, I would caution you not to be naive on this point. Until
Chuck, Clif, Brian, and maybe the U2UG board declare u2-community dead
and the moderating rules that send people there to be dead, this puppy
is still alive (or was that a horse?) Cheers! --dawn
On 9/6/07, Karen Bessel [EMAIL
I've always considered you a sensible voice, Clif, and you came
through on this one. Because the U2UG is the trustee of the list, and
because I think this e-mail will get to many of the board members
without e-mail them individually, I will simply copy Brian Leach, the
President of the U2UG, and
On 9/7/07, Brian Leach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dawn (and fellow list members)
I appreciate where you're coming from, but
1. Please remember that the U2UG are the stewards and not the owners of this
list. The U2UG has agreed to run the lists according to the wishes of the
list membership,
On 9/11/07, Moderator [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All,
It is no secret that I vehemently disagree with making this an
unmoderated list.
I must have missed some of the conversation because I did not hear
anyone suggest that the list be unmoderated, just that it be moderated
like many other lists
Well said, Jeff, and good point, Jerry. --dawn
On 9/11/07, Jerry Banker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well said.
Do you realize that this thread is actually being talked about on both
lists now! :-)
Jerry
-Original Message-
From: Jeff Fitzgerald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:
Thanks for passing this along. What fun.
I have some greenbar downstairs with Primos COBOL using MIDAS files,
but I don't think I'll give it a spin. It is 30 year-old code and I
had not even heard of structured programming back then.
Maybe the thing I was missing regarding threads on this list
A cherished possession of mine is a 9-track tape of Oracle for Primos.
I also have a controller board and a, yes, I have a Pr1me disk pack
too.
Maybe there's a support group for people who have have kept Pr1me disk
packs? --dawn
On 9/13/07, Drew Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've still
For those interested in either history or theory...
Keith Johnson did a super job of putting Don Nelson's 1965 GIRLS paper
into html format. See http://tincat-group.com/mv/girls.html
This should give better access to more people, once it gets indexed
and all. I still find it interesting that
I just checked and my efforts with UOJ have been backed up and are not
handy right now, but I thought that Wendy put some examples on the
pickwiki.com site under the Java and JSP examples at
http://www.pickwiki.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?SourceCode
I did not review them now to be sure, but I suspect
Oh, yeah, for old time's sake if nothing else. Good deal, Dave. I'm
not running UniVerse, but just knowing it is available... Any chance
that it could be hosted, or better yet, web-enabled so anyone could
use it? (maybe the U2UG could do something like that?)
cheers! --dawn
P.S. I'm not
Have fun with the new job, Don! Feel free to write back with any
observations you think might be relevant. cheers! --dawn
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 5:04 AM, Don Verhagen
u2-us...@southeast-florida.com wrote:
To those that know me on this group. I have been using the Unidata
databases
since
Is anyone live with DataStage and UniData? I am interested in success
stories as well as any suggestions for success. In this case the site
would be going from UniData to Cognos on Oracle.
Thanks. --dawn
--
Dawn M. Wolthuis
Take and give some delight today
---
u2-users mailing list
I am not using it right now, but I have had enough discussions on
behalf of another company that I definitely can recommend talking to
the folks at s7.com about it. --dawn
Dawn M. Wolthuis
Snupnow LLC, Managing Partner
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Baker Hughes baker.hug...@mouser.com wrote:
From a search of my mail archives, I see davidjmur...@u2blog.org so
I'm guessing David Murray is the author, but I see that the home page
for it is right now redirecting to the wp-admin page for the blog
instead. David?
--dawn
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 2:49 AM, Tony G1tlx6h...@sneakemail.com
On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Steve Romanowslestak...@gmail.com wrote:
Mecki Foerthmann wrote:
It really boils down to this.
What can you do with Python in a U2 database that I can't do with Pick
Basic?
Umm, real unit testing ala nosetest
I realize this is the U2 list, but I thought I
Since we are writing something new, I started out with Java styling
rules, then saw that the AJAX toolset was written by people more
accustomed to vb styling, so there is some mishmash, but we have
File Names: CamelCase
Field Names: CamelCase
Constants: UPPER
local variables: sometimeslower
Yeah, but that's pervasive technology rhetoric. Tell someone that DB2 is
better than their database, or that Vista is better than their OS, or that
yahoomail is better than their mail, or that COBOL or Java is better than
their language and you will get the same thing. The planet still seems big
DataStage would be an option. I am not using it, but it would be the
cadillac solution. At the low, but excellent, end of the spectrum, I
would put Cedarville DOWNLOAD, which can also extact to xml, for
example IIRC.
Depending on your goal, something like Informer or MITS might fit the
bill too.
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Mecki Foerthmannmec...@gmx.net wrote:
If the price of Datastage wouldn't be so prohibitive...
They have some very good pricing for the U2 version of DataStage. It
has some restrictions which might sound problematic, but I'm told it
is easy to use and deal with
Oops, this was intended for the list (does a reply no longer go to the
entire list?). --dawn
-- Forwarded message --
From: Dawn Wolthuis dw...@tincat-group.com
Date: Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: [U2] What ETL?
To: Mecki Foerthmann mec...@gmx.net
On Thu, Jul 30
I get this error message in every browser I have tried too (IE 8, FF 3, Chrome)
I look forward to seeing the application. --dawn
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Kevin Kingprecisonl...@gmail.com wrote:
The following message is displayed when connecting
tohttp://212.241.202.162:8080/db(Chrome,
I know the software I am writing doesn't yet have all of the features it
needs to have. I figure that this volunteer-written app (again, eager to see
it) simply doesn't have every feature either. That is no shame.
I don't know if there is an intent to deploy it for Chrome, FF, Safari, etc,
I'm
I'm thinking only 1, uni
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:14 AM, George Gallenggal...@wyanokegroup.com wrote:
Maybe it's both, after all, Verse can play all!
-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-
boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of
I, too, wish the best for the U2 team in their move to this new
company. Some of these folks in Denver were part of Unidata, then
Ardent, then Informix, then IBM and now Rocket Software in the span of
13 years or so (not looking it up right now). That is a different way
of changing what company
I'm pretty certain that DataStage would not be part of it since the
new DataStage products are based on another product they purchased,
not on Universe. The variation on Universe that is part of their
old-but-still-being-sold DataStage is not the Universe product, nor is
it under Susie's area, so
Yes, I read that too, along with seeing IMS mentioned on their site.
It doesn't look like a place that products go to die, but a place they
go to survive. It will be interesting to see if U2 can thrive under
this structure rather than just survive. That was hard for them to do
within IBM, so this
Laughing. I'll probably quote you on that one sometime, Wol. Cheers! --dawn
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Anthony W. Youngman
u...@thewolery.demon.co.uk wrote:
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I'm going to have to do some brain science to figure this all out. --dawn
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 6:57 AM, Ross Ferris ro...@stamina.com.au wrote:
No, but the process may be as complicated and straight forward as Rocket
Surgery!!!
Ross Ferris
Stamina Software
Visage Better by Design!
What do you mean just? For building a new app, they got to the top
of my list a couple of years ago. Now that they (Cache') have a number
of conversions from various mv platforms under their belts, this
change in U2 ownership might prompt a few more folks to think about
migrating, but for the most
So are they not yet free to make an actual announcement or what? Just
curious. --dawn
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Dawn M. Wolthuis
Take and give some delight today
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Hennessey, Mark F.
mark.hennes...@ct.gov wrote:
I believe this is more in the way of a Happy New Year type message.
I was guessing that was the case. In that case, I am impressed with
the information they did put out there regarding how they have worked
with other products to give the U2 community hints that they should
not be freaking out. The fact that you, Susie and others seem pleased
with this move should
The one statement below that isn't the way I would say it at all is
As cache was already multivalue, they added the PICK flavor to their
flavors just like flavors on UniVerse.
Their native data model is broader than MV, so they (Jim Idle of jBASE
and many others) wrote MV to sit on top of the
HI Harold -- I'm confused. I don't even see a post from me in this
thread. What are you reading from me that has the word proof in it.
Did you mean Wol instead of Dawn below? Otherwise, could you
provide the quote from me? Thanks. --dawn
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Oaks, Harold
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