That D in DOM is a general term and doesn't necessarily refer only to
legible Documents. I think DOM and API can be used interchangably when
referring to class libraries that define complex data structures along with
related method/property/event structures. The MS Office libraries are a
good exa
BobJ bob-at-rjoslyn.com |U2UG| wrote:
> Mono is one of the better tricks of our time. But for
> practical purposes it IS Windows so MS wins again. They
> just don't get any profit when you use Mono. At least no
> direct profit.
Hey Bob, I'll give you grief here but I look forward to seeing you
Mono allows you to run the same C#/.NET code over Win32 and *nix.
http://www.mono-project.com/about/index.html
As an example, you can use Mono to serve ASP.NET pages from your Linux box
with no Windows involved. Connectivity can be established with your U2
environment, just not via UO.NET, which i
will have a
much easier time writing many types of user interfaces, Web Services, and
other external/mainstream connectivity to your MV back-end - but the time
and hassle that you save comes at a price which is paid to RD. As always,
the question comes down to whether you have more time or more money.
product inquiries here and not in the forums where
mvBASE people actually do hang out. Now that I think about it, I think I
_did_ post a thread about exactly this situation in the RD forum.
HTH,
Tony Gravagno (former mvBASE Product Manager, but it wasn't my fault!)
Nebula R&D
[EMAIL PROTECTE
Starting to go OT here. David, please forgive, as I shifted your first
quote around to maintain context.
> I think it was AT & T who "architected" unix. Obviously you have
> never tried to read a hidden unix file? Quite a number of resource
> files are named as hidden files and if you wish to re
You can use appropriate host OS functions to copy/move the file to a more
friendly name, then use UV to Read the new filename. You can use an OS
function like "exists" to see if the file exists before doing the copy or
read.
Oh yes, and please post the name of whoever it was that architected the
With the discussion of editors coming up again and again I thought I'd post
another note about this mvToolbox software. I am not selling the software,
nor do I get commission, etc.. I just think it's important for U2
developers to be aware that something this feature-rich is actually
available.
LeRoi Keiller wrote:
> I still wonder why governments around the globe didn't put a stop to
> spam long ago. My 2c.
The countries that are most offensive with spam are also neglectful of
billions of dollars of criminal activity and damages perpetrated by their
populations against other countries
gerry wrote:
> imo - the solution to this problem is simple - the posters email
> address should not be included in the distributed postings.
> i know the list address , the list address knows my address and
> nobody else knows anything.
>
> From: "Glen B"
>> Something else to consider, is the
Allen E. Elwood (CA) wrote:
> Does anybody know in a Raining data mvBase system, *is* there a file
> for the spooled jobs, and if so, what the name might be? I really
> truly hate SP-EDIT and have a spooler that I wrote for Unidata that I
> would like to port over.
Seeing this thread growing I'll
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Tony which of the below are freeware?
I'm surprised you asked, but the only freeware editor below is from
mvtools.net. I hope I didn't imply otherwise.
[Moderator-friendly snippage]
> wED from AccuTerm: http://www.asent.com
> mvToolbox http://mvtoolbox.com/
> RED, CRED
Robert Paterson wrote:
> In the latest releases UV has the AE editor - so you can have the
> best of all worlds...
Dick Kryka wrote:
> I know this is probably not the highest on others lists, but the
> UniData editor is like god next to the pitiful excuse of an editor
> that UniVerse provides.
A
Actually Dave wrote:
>>> http://designbais.com/ a step in the right direction to get a
>>> browser based screen interface to U2. Skipping the layers to get it
>>> to happen. And it's priced at $1000.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Does this imply from an external user? Or are you just saying a web
>
I'm glad you liked the material Dave.
For those who were unable to make it, as seen in another thread here I'll be
on the panel with the U2UG this Sunday. I'll have some DesignBais
presentation CD's available after the session.
For clarification of licensing costs and other details, please e-mai
When you say "has used", OK, I fit that category. I had one client about 12
years ago that was running Results on a Microdata. I worked with them for
about 4 years, so I knew their customized app well at the time. Good
software, though some parts of it I wouldn't touch with a long pole. When
th
djordan wrote:
> If Uniobjects .Net is a .Net assembley, then it should run anywhere
> that the .Net frame work runs as well as probably on the Linux
> version as well.
We've had some discussions in comp.databases.pick about .NET-enabled MV
tools running over Mono. I believe (though someone with
To keep this on-topic, the answer is: don't use Outlook for sending out of
office messages. Write an SMTP client in Pick BASIC or other favorite tools
which checks your inbox headers and manages messaging the way you want. Or
- have a process run through your inbound Outlook mail and send message
Oops, I posted how to avoid the messages, not how to send them. Sorry
Chuck.
T
> Stevenson, Charles wrote:
>> (Yes, I could unsubscribe temporarily, but I prefer a more
>> complicated solution.)
>> Could some kind soul please post the MS Outlook (v. 2003) procedure
>> for preventing the standa
Use a combination of rules. I have 3 for this and they seem to work OK,
though not perfectly:
1) Use the rule for a message "which is an out of office message".
2) Another rule with:
"auto reply" or "d'absence du bureau" in the subject
3) Another rule with:
"out of office" or "out
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Has anyone ever considerd moving the users group from e-mail to a web
> based forum software like fusetalk?
> http://www.fusetalk.com/
Or like this:
http://www.u2ug.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=phpBB_14&file=index
Or these:
http://www.picksource.com/modules.php?name=
Again, I'm not getting into a mud slinging match. For whatever reason,
people are excited about DesignBais without the mud. I'm learning as I go
why they're getting excited and I'm just trying to share some info. Once
people have the info they can do their own feature comparisons and make
their
This is precisely the reason why I don't want to get into a shooting match.
People spend more time focusing on product comparisons, competitive
positioning, and posturing metaphors like "tricycles" than they do on just
appreciating products for their own merits. This is an election year in the
USA
Sean W Ferguson wrote:
> Interesting product. How does it compare to Visage? From a quick
> glance at the DesignBais website they look very similar in concept and
> design.
> http://www.staminasoftware.com/Products/Visage/Products_Visage.htm
I have no experience with Visage yet, outside of prese
In case anyone missed my recent mention of this I thought I'd dedicate a
thread to it.
http://www.cdbma.org
Inquiries welcome about DesignBais for U2 and other MV platforms. A video
presentation on CD is available, shipped from Nebula R&D in the USA or
DesignBais in Australia, depending on where
So many responses, I'll put them all in this one note:
Alfke, Colin wrote:
> First: login to the session that you are running !NEWVERSION from as
> ADMINISTRATOR (a user in the administrators group won't do it).
The doc does indicate that the user must be Administrator, I noted that it
did not sa
Good info, thanks Colin and others. I don't see a clear solution at the
moment but I'll keep looking. I have to believe "someone" is using AccuTerm
with Unidata. :) Suggestions still welcome.
Thanks and Regards,
Tony
Alfke, Colin wrote:
> I don't use Accuterm but if you check in the udthome/
Thanks Colin and others for suggestions here and via e-mail, but as
indicated in my original post, I did read and follow the docs for NEWPCODE
and NEWVERSION, DECATLOG and DELETE.CATALOG, and CATALOG with DIRECT, LOCAL,
NEWVERSION, and/or FORCE - all with no success. It seems weird that there
is s
Platform is Unidata 6.0 PE over WinXP.
I've been having a hard time doing development on subroutines when the main
calling programs are running on active processes. This isn't live code,
it's all development, but I'm trying to avoid stop/restarting the main code
every time I change a subroutine.
I've been having a heck of a time at ECL on Unidata PE 6.0 with AccuTerm 2k2
- all over WinXP Pro. I'm not sure of which terminal emulation is best, or
even how to check/set the term type in Unidata. "term vt100" doesn't return
a confirmation and "term" just returns "A,B,C,D" help with nothing ab
Brian, I think you're missing one of the main features of ADO.NET, which is
to make the source of your data independent of how your application works
with it. I don't necessarily want to access my MV environment via SQL, but
I do want to be able to pull the data into a dataset so that it's
transpa
Leroy Dreyfuss wrote:
> If you order a new version of 10.1, it should come with the client CD
> containing UO.NET. It is not available separately. It was released
> August 10th. I think I may have mentioned it here on the list before.
Where can I find some detailed documentation about the library?
Note from prior discussions here that you can use cURL as easily as
CallHttp, and in my opinion it's a lot better and easier. You can also
invoke remote Web Services by calling to Perl and Java tools that will
eliminate your need to mess with SOAP-specific XML.
It sounds like you need a Web Servi
Bill H. wrote:
> The management, who are putting their necks on the line, so to speak,
> should be able to do what they think is necessary. The real
> difficulty is management are being hired who don't know how to judge
> the quality their business operations and activities. This is a
> primary c
Useless anecdotes:
According to hacker Paul Boutin, the biggest problem in computing in the
90's was that there are only 17000 TLA's. Technically that's 17576 which is
26^3, but who argues with hackers?
The TLA "SDI" has 30+ meanings in English alone.
These days you'll notice the TLA is facing
;t have the opposite effect from intended
> 3) Those sponsoring laws have a clue what they're doing.
> When it comes to Congress, the less they do the better. :-)
Tony Gravagno wrote nothing of the sort:
[snip - go check]
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Gordon Glorfield wrote:
> BTW My apologies to our non-USA list members as this is only
> pertinent to US operations. Sometimes I forget we are not all in the
> USA.
Actually Gordon, while the legal responsibilities of compliance with USA
regulations only apply to USA companies, I can easily see
>From the text on the website and the conference info below I don't see how
UO.NET is similar or different compared to UO except that it's re-written to
be managed code. Does it support the full UO API? Does it support ADO.NET?
Connection pooling is interesting. XML/DataSet support? I hope that
Nick Cipollina wrote:
> I recently had to call a web service, and it was actually easier for
> me to write my own call to the web service using the socket
> interface. The callHTTP functionality was too limited for what I
> needed to do.
Rather than writing your own low-level socket interface, t
uld have known many years ago.
Remember, I've had some experience with this software, there is no
consumable. ( Gonna feel real stupid if this one comes back to bite me, but
I've been there before. :) )
Tony Gravagno, Nebula R&D
Former positions at Pick Systems/Raining Data:
Q
Support, but it will
probably cost about $500 to start - there Are, however, a lot of people
there in Irvine who worked for many years with AP/Pro, so your answers Are
probably there.
Good Luck.
Tony Gravagno, Nebula R&D
Former positions at Pick Systems/Raining Data:
QA Manager
Corporate T
Thank answer is yes, but obviously some development is involved.
Further, you might be able to make some use of SMS (text messaging) to cut
down on some calls. Due to the uncertain nature of messaging, I never
recommend relying on e-mail or SMS, but confirming all exchanges
electronically and/or
Another good bit of esotherica, thanks!
All of these limits remind me of Dirty Harry:
"A man's got to know his limitations..."
What surprises me is that you admit to reading RFC's. :)
Tony Le Geek
Craig Bennett wrote:
> Tony,
>> - There are occasionally limits on the size of the domain name,
Wendy Smoak wrote:
> Nick Cipollina wrote:
>> Is anyone aware of any limitations to the length of parameter_value
>> in the addRequestParameter(request_handle,parameter_name,parameter_va
>> lue,conten t_handling) function.
>
>> CRITICAL ERROR! Notify the system administrator.
>> Abnormal terminat
Forward: This turned out to be an ad, but it was sincerely started as a
helpful suggestion. It's tough to offer solutions to problems without
sounding like you're hawking warez... Thanks for bearing with me.
I have no idea if this will help yet, but NebulaSecure is a component which
was just wri
You could approach this in an n-tiered manner which addresses both the speed
and security issues. Your VB client would use HTTPS to make a request of
your web server. The web server invokes VB and UniObjects to access
Universe. This eliminates direct exposure of the Universe box to the
internet.
David makes some good points. Follow-up below...
>From David Jordan:
> One thing was pointed out to me very quickly about SAP.
> German companies are very structured and do things by
> the book. SAP works well for this. If your organisation
> is innovative and reactive and management come wi
SAP people tend to come in with the "replace everything" attitude. The
CFO's and CTO's who bring them in are making political decisions, not
technical. If your business has apps that function perfectly for your
vertical market or for your unique way of doing business, then you have
assets that sh
Welcome to Tony's Education Corner. :)
Most of the responses so far say "connect, do your stuff, then disconnect".
That's all good advice - here is why people are saying this.
This is the concept of Persistence. If you hold a connection between user
inquiries, you have a Persistent connection.
A Wiki doesn't require a "hack", anyone who sees the page can change it.
That's the nature of a Wiki. If the medium doesn't suit the needs then a
new medium is required.
Tony
> Not sure who's doing the pickwiki page at www.pickwiki,com.
> I think Wendy knows. Apparently the page has been hac
I think most sites that provide downloadable distros will have ISO's
somewhere, if not at a home site then at some mirror site.
I've successfully loaded WhiteBox Linux over MS Virtual PC 2004 and then
installed and activated D3. WBL is a fork from RHEL (ES/AS/WS) and seems to
be a good platform,
Mel Soriano of ERIS has an article in every issue of Spectrum Magazine. Web
Wizard has been around for a long time and has apparently had a compelling
amount of success. I've never used it so I can't comment.
I mention Web Wizard as one development option in my series of articles on
"Web Service
Dawn M. Wolthuis wrote:
> Cache' blankets the Java market with ads as well...
> I have no clue whether their marketing strategy is working to
> grow them significantly beyond their initial MUMPs
> base, but I'm definitely curious.
Dawn, I've had loose discussions with MV VARs about Cache' for qu
I do a fair amount of work with the guts of HTTP clients and servers, and
with other RFC-standard protocols, as well as custom protocols over TCP. At
first thought I don't see the value in a specialized type like this. The
few client/server processors that would use it would need to implement
spe
George Smith wrote:
> As I have told you before I am not interested in Raining Data
> and I for one wish you would stop your touting.
My posting did have a little RD&C and a smiley but since you'd like to
approach this more seriously...
I make my recommendations based on my sense of good busines
from Tony Gravagno
> [snip]
> PDP now has the sanctions of Microsoft, and it can't hurt to
> tell management that you're running Microsoft-approved .NET
> communications with your IBM-approved database.
> [snip]
--
> Tony,
> Please can you substantiate the statemen
t like the
company, although I understand that's a significant factor when buying new
components. PDP now has the sanctions of Microsoft, and it can't hurt to
tell management that you're running Microsoft-approved .NET communications
with your IBM-approved database.
Tony Gravagno ([
D3 questions are best addressed at http://forums.rainingdata.com but we can
take a quick shot here.
D3 is shutting down on it's own? I've never heard of this and now both of
you see it - weird.
When you say "shutting down", do you mean a clean shutdown or a crash, as in
the VME service just stop
[I'll preface this that my gloating looks like an AD to me, so ... ]
Sounds like you just need a trigger which invokes CallHTTP or something
external like cURL.
Our new NebulaHTIO (HyperText Input/Output) is a MV BASIC wrapper around
cURL, for people who want to do HTTP/HTTPS from MV BASIC code
> Anthony Dzikiewicz wrote:
> Much has been considered. These are retail cashiering station that we
are
> talking about. One central printer would be my next choice. The only
thing
> that can go wrong is that the printer hangs and the whole front counter is
> dead.
And you could go multi-printe
Personally I'd recommend that you reconsider the architecture that you're
trying to build, rather than reconsidering the specific devices that you're
trying to fit into that architecture. I'm reading square pegs and round
holes here.
Dumb terminals were designed when we didn't have anything bette
USA Memorial Day today.
> Is there a current problem with the email lists?
>
> Nothing of any consequence for the past 2 or 3 days Only
> a very small
> smattering of "subscribes" and U2 "FMT" mails.
>
> Regards,
>
> Bruce Nichol
> Talon Computer Services
> ALBURYNSW 26
While I am no longer offering NebulAnalysis at the moment, you can see from
our web page that I have considerable experience with controlling Excel
directly from MV. In lieu of product, we can offer consultation and
development services for tight Excel integration, using NebulAnalysis as the
tool
Colin wrote:
> This meant that we went with the free Uni-OLEDB interface.
> Which worked fine for us.
Yeah, when talking about .NET I tend to jump to PDP because it works, it's
well supported, and (shame on me) because I think of Uni* connectivity from
.NET as pounding square connectivity pegs in
Will Johnson wrote:
> Ok let's hear some real numbers.
>Can a Pick database (on Windows) talk to the Web for
> say... under 5 grand?
Yes
> If so How ?
Write your own interface on time that has not been allocated to paying
customers.
Seriously, I have written many such interfaces using var
Colin Alfke wrote:
> We did (somewhat) investigate the pdp.net route but cost
> considerations precluded it for us.
Hi Colin - I initially thought that the cost for PDP.NET was prohibitive as
well but then I started asking questions and I was amazed that the cost is
MUCH less than what people thi
Before you go developing something that already exists, I highly suggest you
take a look at DesignBAIS:
- It was developed by an SB+ shop with a large install base to do exactly
what you describe.
- They already include tools to migrate SB+ apps to the web as well as a
full development environment
Whenever I propose that people take their existing apps, do some marketing,
and make a go of it in the mainstream world, the conversation often turns
toward "but we need more tools". People want the magic silver bullet that
will make their procedural code into event-driven, their green screens int
Ref:
http://www.crn.com/sections/BreakingNews/breakingnews.asp?ArticleID=50230
If IBM really wants to target Microsoft, why don't they start telling the
world about all of the existing U2 applications that run on Linux with
features and stability that rival that of competitors like Great Plains,
Q
Miscellaneous suggestions that can be taken one at a time or combined:
- Have the mail sent to some non-filtered e-mail server like hotmail and
then have people poll that server from their normal e-mail client or a
different one.
- Get the digest version, zip it, then manually distribute to employe
In addition to product development and trips out of town I've had two
primary systems die in the last two weeks and require complete
re-installation - no time for lists, thank the Lords of Kobol for backups.
But I'm back now and what do I see in the U2 list? Questions about D3... My
My, gone a lit
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