Re: Reveal Codes

(whether 'automatic' or not) starts and ends. For example, â á - Robert From: Andrew Pitonyak Sent: March 21, 2022 13:52 To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Reveal Codes First, to identify a few problems with "reveal codes. One pr

Re: Reveal Codes

First, to identify a few problems with "reveal codes. One problem with "reveal" codes with respect to OpenOffice is related to the use of styles compared to hard coded attributes. I perform most formatting using a style, but it is difficult to understand whether a single character is bold

Re: Reveal Codes

There is no reveal codes in OpenOffice. Reveal Codes was a Wordperfect feature. The Word feature of the same name is activated by Shift+F1. The Word feature may go by the same name but is nothing like the Wordperfect feature because the structure of the files is different. If you have a line (or

Re: reveal codes

On 2017-08-10 7:14, Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Thu, 10 Aug 2017 07:08:16 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Robert Funnell wrote: On Thu, 10 Aug 2017, Stephen Nichols wrote: > Let me clarify. The “codes” revealed are not what your thinking of — tags with bracketed text,

Re: reveal codes

As far as I can tell, neither of these things helps what I'm referring to. As an example: let's say you apply the Emphasis character style to a sequence of characters, and then later want to add some following characters that don't have that style. If you just position your cursor after the

Re: reveal codes

On Thu, 10 Aug 2017, Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Thu, 10 Aug 2017 07:08:16 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Robert Funnell wrote: ... To me the value of RevealCodes in WordPerfect was not just in seeing the structure but in therefore being able to position the cursor

Re: reveal codes

On Thu, 10 Aug 2017 07:08:16 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Robert Funnell wrote: > On Thu, 10 Aug 2017, Stephen Nichols wrote: > > > Let me clarify. The “codes” revealed are not what your thinking of — tags > > with bracketed text, XML code, etc.. I think that the

Re: reveal codes

On Thu, 10 Aug 2017, Stephen Nichols wrote: Let me clarify. The “codes” revealed are not what your thinking of — tags with bracketed text, XML code, etc.. I think that the viewing option should more properly be called “Reveal Structure” since it simply shows what formatting instruction has

Re: reveal codes

hi. did you test libreoffice for this purpose? and i recommend that peist the content of your file in for example notepad++ to see the codes. God bless you! On 8/10/17, Stephen Nichols wrote: > Let me clarify. The “codes” revealed are not what your thinking of — tags

Re: reveal codes

Let me clarify. The “codes” revealed are not what your thinking of — tags with bracketed text, XML code, etc.. I think that the viewing option should more properly be called “Reveal Structure” since it simply shows what formatting instruction has been given and where, specifically things

Re: reveal codes

On 08/09/2017 07:48 PM, Stephen Nichols wrote: > 2) I absolutely LOVE the “reveal codes” function of WP. > But … Why can’t/won't OpenOffice add a similar feature? What problem do you think "Reveal Codes" solves. I mean something other the fact that the developers of WP couldn't write bug free

Re: reveal codes

On Thu, 10 Aug 2017, Martin Groenescheij wrote: The reveal codes shows bad formatting issues, if you learn to use Styles properly there is nothing to reveal. Sometimes one has to work with documents created by other people. And often one would like to be able to place the cursor before or

Re: reveal codes

2017-08-09 21:48 GMT+02:00 Stephen Nichols : > I used WordPerfect for 15 years because of two reasons, besides that it’s > a great product. > 1) I hate Microsoft. > 2) I absolutely LOVE the “reveal codes” function of WP. It is the most > powerful tool in word

Re: reveal codes

On Wed, 9 Aug 2017, Stephen Nichols wrote: I used WordPerfect for 15 years because of two reasons, besides that it’s a great product. 1) I hate Microsoft. 2) I absolutely LOVE the “reveal codes” function of WP. It is the most powerful tool in word processing, eliminating all sorts of bad

Re: Reveal Codes Query - or Re: Suggestion.

yes, voting is how you officially indicate your interest On 05/23/2014 03:39 AM, Helen wrote: I'd love the reveal codes feature -- didn't know there was a vote until I ran across this. On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org wrote: On 05/19/2014 06:11

Re: Reveal Codes Query - or Re: Suggestion.

Sorry if there is some confusion here, as I for one never meant to criticise styles - which I use extensively, and generally find useful. There are however situations where styles might not help. For example, when troubleshooting document formatting problems such as page or section options,

Re: Reveal Codes Query - or Re: Suggestion.

So far, this conversation boils down to: use only styles which requires casual users to travel the steep learning curve to enable their use and possibility of creating conflicts with other style rules or show consideration to the casual user and provide a reveal code feature which is cleaner

Re: Reveal Codes Query - or Re: Suggestion.

Allow me to add my 'two-pence worth’ to this important discussion. Seems to me that it has been well-explained earlier that a ‘reveal codes’-like solution (apparently as in WordPerfect) is not readily achievable within OO, as the formatting controls of OO don’t lend themselves to such a

Re: Reveal Codes Query - or Re: Suggestion.

On 05/19/2014 06:11 AM, japples wrote: So far, this conversation boils down to: use only styles which requires casual users to travel the steep learning curve to enable their use and possibility of creating conflicts with other style rules or show consideration to the casual user and provide

Re: Reveal Codes Query - or Re: Suggestion.

If we use OpenOffice to edit the file and use WordPerfect to reveal code, what is the problem? 2014-05-19 20:17 GMT+08:00 Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org: On 05/19/2014 06:11 AM, japples wrote: So far, this conversation boils down to: use only styles which requires casual

Re: Reveal Codes Query - or Re: Suggestion.

On 05/19/2014 09:38 AM, 許哲崇 wrote: If we use OpenOffice to edit the file and use WordPerfect to reveal code, what is the problem? The problem is that most versions of WordPerfect don't run on Linux. (WordPerfect 12 word processor only will run, but can't read the latest Microsoft formats.

Re: Reveal Codes Query - or Re: Suggestion.

All the more reason why the open source community operating under the Apache umbrella should add a Reveal Codes analog to OO. On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: On 05/19/2014 09:38 AM, 許哲崇 wrote: If we use OpenOffice to edit the file and use WordPerfect to

Re: Reveal Codes Query - or Re: Suggestion.

On 05/19/2014 09:38 AM, 許哲崇 wrote: If we use OpenOffice to edit the file and use WordPerfect to reveal code, what is the problem? No problem at all... :-) The potential issue is that loading in a different editor will cause slightly different things to be displayed (at least that is my

Re: Reveal Codes Query - or Re: Suggestion.

On 19 May 2014, at 03:34, mt m...@lockedbags.org wrote: Anyhow, a (very basic) example of how this could be obtained is in the Write/Edit Post interface in WordPress, with its two tabs (Visual | Text). I have no idea whether this is possible in OO - but it is my understanding that

Re: Reveal Codes Query - or Re: Suggestion.

On 19 May 2014, at 09:38, 許哲崇 fide...@gmail.com wrote: If we use OpenOffice to edit the file and use WordPerfect to reveal code, what is the problem? lack of a current wordperfect and why should we pay for it if we are committed to OO? jt --- List

Re: Reveal Codes Query

On 05/17/2014 04:35 PM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: 2014-05-16 20:38 GMT+02:00 japples japp...@europa.com: Does a list exist for OO users to vote for proposed future functionalities? I would like to vote for Reveal Codes. Reveal Codes is a very useful tool. It works independently of the Style

Re: Reveal Codes Query

2014-05-16 20:38 GMT+02:00 japples japp...@europa.com: Does a list exist for OO users to vote for proposed future functionalities? I would like to vote for Reveal Codes. Reveal Codes is a very useful tool. It works independently of the Style rules and does not require the user to take time

Re: reveal codes

Try /View /Non printing characters. This allows one to exactly position the cursor. That's totally different. It shows paragraph breaks and spaces, not formatting codes. - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: reveal codes

A short response to many of the points raised in this thread, to quote which points would be tedious and not very relevant to this posting. Would it be possible to reach a broad equivalent of reveal codes by incorporating an XML analysis screen.facility, which would look at the underlying

Re: reveal codes

On 01/21/2013 11:29 AM, Eric Fenster wrote: Try /View /Non printing characters. This allows one to exactly position the cursor. That's totally different. It shows paragraph breaks and spaces, not formatting codes. - To

Re: reveal codes

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Re: reveal codes

document with 100 formatting errors. A correct version of the document must be available It's not so much about errors as the ease of making changes when revising one's text. People who write exactly what their final version should be the first time may have to deal with errors. The rest of

Re: reveal codes

Hi Eric, Eric Fenster schrieb: Styles doesn't begin to do what Reveal Codes does. Just simple things like when Bold or Italics stop and start, where languages change, etc. It's far easier to SEE a code, delete where necessary or place a cursor. Reveal codes seems to be the major feature that

Re: reveal codes

On 01/21/2013 01:47 PM, Regina Henschel wrote: Hi Eric, Eric Fenster schrieb: Styles doesn't begin to do what Reveal Codes does. Just simple things like when Bold or Italics stop and start, where languages change, etc. It's far easier to SEE a code, delete where necessary or place a cursor.

Re: Reveal codes?

At https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=3395 you can see some of the history of this request. I would love to see it but I don't know if it will ever happen. On Sun, 20 Jan 2013, Eric Fenster wrote: What chance Open Office will offer reveal codes à la Word Perfect? This is the

Re: reveal codes

At 11:10 20/01/2013 -0500, Helen Etters wrote: On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 07:42:46 -0800 (PST), Eric Fenster wrote: What chance Open Office will offer reveal codes à la Word Perfect? This is the reason I keep my old Word Perfect program, as crash-prone as it is. The feature really helps control

Re: reveal codes

...@iol.ie Subject: Re: reveal codes To: users@openoffice.apache.org Cc: Eric Fenster eric...@yahoo.com Date: Sunday, January 20, 2013, 6:06 AM On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 07:42:46 -0800 (PST) Eric Fenster eric...@yahoo.com wrote: What chance Open Office will offer reveal codes à la Word

Re: reveal codes

At 12:21 20/01/2013 -0500, Alan Boba wrote: On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Brian Barker wrote: At 11:10 20/01/2013 -0500, Helen Etters wrote: On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 07:42:46 -0800 (PST), Eric Fenster wrote: What chance Open Office will offer reveal codes à la Word Perfect? This is the reason

Re: reveal codes

At 12:38 20/01/2013 -0500, Helen wrote: I should have clarified what I meant by a troubling code. I meant something that I (or any user) might put in, and then later decide this is not exactly the way you want it, and so wish to make an adjustment. Your document looks wrong but you don't

Re: reveal codes

If the document looks wrong, and you can't find out why, then just select default formatting to clear all formatting. Then reapply the correct format. Two mouse-clicks, no waiting. Jim Plante On Jan 20, 2013, at 11:45 AM, Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com wrote: At 12:38 20/01/2013

Re: reveal codes

I wish people who have made some of the comments actually had experience with the Reveal Codes function in WP. First, for those not familiar with it, the Reveal Codes can be turned on and off and the amount of space (number of lines of text) it consumes on the screen is under complete

Re: reveal codes

just select default formatting to clear all formatting. Why destroy everything and start over if all that's necessary is to put the cursor on a code and DEL For ex, a hard page break that becomes out of place because text has been added during editing. Click on the page break code, it's

Re: reveal codes

On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 1:45 PM, James Plante jimpla...@me.com wrote: If the document looks wrong, and you can't find out why, then just select default formatting to clear all formatting. Then reapply the correct format. Two mouse-clicks, no waiting. I did try that, it failed to resolve the

Re: reveal codes

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Re: reveal codes

On Sunday, 20 January 2013 19:46:18, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: Why must you insist on making the writer go thru hoops to fix something when Reveal Codes can do it for him quickly and easily? Just let us have the capability--if *you* want to go thru those hoops, then go ahead--I

RE: reveal codes

that's the barrier so much. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Rod Lockwood [mailto:rodlockw...@provide.net] Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 19:15 To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: reveal codes [ ... ] Also, you can see what the formatting is at any given point by looking

Re: reveal codes

On 21/01/2013 5:51 AM, Eric Fenster wrote: I wish people who have made some of the comments actually had experience with the Reveal Codes function in WP. First, for those not familiar with it, the Reveal Codes can be turned on and off and the amount of space (number of lines of text) it

RE: reveal codes

OpenOffice. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Martin Groenescheij [mailto:mar...@groenescheij.com] Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 20:28 To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: reveal codes [ ... ] I really don't understand this rather authoritarian recommendation. If I write

Re: reveal codes

That's exactly how you do it in OpenOffice, select the word and click on the Bold icon. It's not that simple. In Open Office you have to be careful about selecting spaces AFTER a word. If you select a word to make bold and happen to include the space after the word, then come back when