Hello,
I am returning due to these technologies sparking my interest, along with the
looming release of Snow Leopard which Im sure will give me something to talk
about.
That youtube demo is interesting, especially when I compare CPU use. The html 5
example uses way less CPU than the flash
Hello,
I am returning due to these technologies sparking my interest, along with the
looming release of Snow Leopard which Im sure will give me something to talk
about.
That youtube demo is interesting, especially when I compare CPU use. The html 5
example uses way less CPU than the flash
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman jay.ded...@... wrote:
Welcome back Steve. It's been a while.
Thanks very much :) Im pretty busy these days so whilst my posts may still be
long, at least there wont be too many of them :)
Im also interested to see what Google does with On2
The mp4 battle wasnt exactly Apple vs Microsoft, although that was probably the
most visible front. h264 .mp4 won on most fronts, I think it might even be
included in Windows 7, need to check.
The next phase of the battle has a lot to do with how the h264 battle was won
in the browser -
Interesting stuff, when I get a chance I will explore this functionality to see
what it means in practice - probably similar to how it works on the iphone.
QuicktimeX in Snow Leopard is likely to elicit mixed feelings. It delivers a
slicker experience but at the expense of functionality, some
Thanks for the info.
If you are getting rid of them via phpmyadmin then there is stuff in the
usermeta table that you should also be deleting, otherwise some future users
could find themselves with admin rights!
Cheers
Steve Elbows
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Verdi
Ive always been interested in stuff like this.
For a few years I hoped to contribute towards making it happen for the vlogging
community, but a combination of factors always put me off, ranging from
technology limitations to not wanting to fragment this community (eg some
people just want to
I disagree. Nokia started down this path with their Internet Tablets, the 770
and 800, which pre-date the iphone. So they've had their toes in the water for
a while, including opensource. I had an N800, it had some real nice features
but it suffered from the usual problem when compared to the
Funny isnt it?
Ive tried all sorts of windows mobiles, other smartphones, windows-based tablet
computers over the years, and oh my how they sucked when looking at the overall
experience.
When looking at what makes the iphone great, it does seem strange that nobody
has come close to copying
Google Wave interests me. On face value its just googles answer to twitter,
social networks, forums, email blog comments, but the way they are doing it
makes me interested. For as well as the usual APIs that will allow developers
to add functionality to the platform, and the now standard
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, elbowsofdeath st...@... wrote:
Google Wave interests me. On face value its just googles answer to twitter,
social networks, forums, email blog comments, but the way they are doing it
makes me interested. For as well as the usual APIs that will allow
Hello,
Thanks very much for the info, and thanks to Jay too for his thoughts.
Cheers
Steve
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert Howe rup...@... wrote:
Steve,
On 1-Oct-09, at 5:19 PM, elbowsofdeath wrote:
What significant developments have happened on the web in recent
years
I am pleased that the FTC has revised its guidelines so that they cover
bloggers who do not disclose fee's or freebies they receive from companies:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8291825.stm
I have not yet had time to read the full arguments of those who are against
this, though I start
Well you are certainly correct that I am not from the US so my knowledge is
somewhat limited, however I have witnessed enough ranting and drooling on the
net about related issues in the past to have some vague idea about the kind of
arguments that are made to support the special brand of
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Markus Sandy markus.sa...@... wrote:
On Oct 6, 2009, at 3:38 AM, elbowsofdeath wrote:
I have not yet had time to read the full arguments of those who are
against this, though I start from the position of viewing their
stance with quite some skepticism
Im not even sure the US would request it, let alone the UK grant it.
We are after all talking about the sort of legislation where fines are used to
disuade companies and corporations from indulging in certain practices when it
comes to advertising and marketing, not exactly hanging offenses.
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Tom Gosse bigdogvi...@... wrote:
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Adrian Miles adrian.mi...@...wrote:
I don't think bloggers, on the one hand, can
call for the same rights and privileges as the press, but then not
want to actually be held to
From what I have read of the FTCs guidelines and stance so far, it mostly
boils down to whether people are being mislead, and the regard that consumers
have for different messengers is taken into account . eg if people dont trust
journalists very much in the first place, or expect them to be
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 6:56 AM, elbowsofdeath st...@... wrote:
From what I have read of the FTCs guidelines and stance so far, it mostly
boils down to whether people are being mislead, and the regard that
consumers have for different messengers is taken into account . eg if people
dont
Its their own fault if it doesnt even dawn on them, let this be a long overdue
wakeup call.
The FTC look at all this stuff on a case-by-case basis anyway, they arent going
to attempt to police this stuff down to the last blog or twitter, indeed a
large point of updating the guidelines is to
Anyway enough of my opinions, here are 3 examples from the guidelines that
apply to blogging etc, as opposed to adverts, and hopefully clarify just what
we are talking about here. They are taken from a few different sections near
the end of this document:
this.
Rupert
http://twittervlog.tv
On 6-Oct-09, at 5:56 PM, elbowsofdeath wrote:
From what I have read of the FTCs guidelines and stance so far, it
mostly boils down to whether people are being mislead, and the
regard that consumers have for different messengers is taken
Hello,
I havent finished reading the document yet, but from what Ive read so far the
key is the scope, and they certainly dont want to include all uk youtubers etc
in this, especially as this is a more pro-active form of regulation than the
FTC stuff in that VOD broadcasters have to register
Sort of reminds me of the minefield we got into with the question of what is
commercial in the context of creative commons licenses. Only this one has
sharper teeth.
I mean obviously there are some cases which are pretty clear cut, especially if
its established companies just trying to avoid
I suspect there were both performance, user experience and business/control
freak reasons not to put flash on the iphone.
Certainly on the desktop flash was very cpu-intensive and older mobile lite
versions of flash were not very good. However Adobe have been improving on
this, and there is a
h.264 tends to be more cpu intensive than older flash video codecs. Playing
h.264 via a flash wrapper in a browser can use a lot more cpu than playing it
via native operating system video player/browser plugin. But the latest beta of
flash player features significantly lower cpu use when
Belated new years greetings to all, Ive not been keeping up with the list much
in the last year or so but am back again for now...
So, is this going to be the year that the tablet form factor finally takes off?
And if so, will it have many implications for vlogging?
Assuming that Apple are
It seems to be using html5 video tag and including links to both .mp4 and ogg
versions of videos on archive.org. So if I look at it using safari, I get the
mp4 version, I assume I would get the ogg if I used a recent firefox, and for
other browsers it may fallback to flash.
Im sure we would
not just the cam but also the flipshare software/service that
comes with it...
It's pretty much idiot-proof..
j
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 6:33 PM, David Jones
david.jo...@...david.jones%40altium.com
wrote:
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 3:42 AM, elbowsofdeath
st...@...steve
Flash is under some threat in most of the areas its been strong at in the past.
Canvas tag, css transitions, downloadable fonts, and various other things mean
it can be gradually replaced. I welcome this, not least because of the cost of
flash development tools. But it will take a long time
?
Cheers
Steve Elbows
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, elbowsofdeath st...@... wrote:
Flash is under some threat in most of the areas its been strong at in the
past. Canvas tag, css transitions, downloadable fonts, and various other
things mean it can be gradually replaced. I welcome
Well there are likely quite a lot of developers who are excited about various
things in html5, including the video tag. They may be excited about it because
it is potentially elegant and flexible and a standard that will work on a
variety of browsers platforms one day, and you dont need to buy
Interesting, although I find the user comments on the first article you linked
to interesting as well - complaints about the current user experience when
using ogg on firefox in fullscreen.
The gif example is a good one but for more reasons than the article pointed out
- yes it was bad and it
Greetings,
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman jay.ded...@... wrote:
Chris Blizzard was clear that Ogg/Theora is not the holy grail:
http://www.0xdeadbeef.com/weblog/2010/01/html5-video-and-h-264-what-history-tells-us-and-why-were-standing-with-the-web/
Well yes it was the video
Well as it turns out there is nothing for video creators/editors to get excited
about from the iPad at this stage. Even for consumption of video its a mixed
bag because it isnt HD or widescreen, though the pixels per inch isnt too bad
so it should actually turn out to be quite nice for watching
Hello,
This player looks very promising:
http://jilion.com/sublime/video
It doesnt work in firefox yet, and the fullscreen mode only works in very
recent webkit nightly build, but the potential is there, the animations are
nice, and performance seems good.
As for the ogg theora issue, having
Good. And for those still worried about the future for h.264 after 2016 this
buys a lot of time for alternative codecs to be improved.
One of the reasons Ive been quite relaxed about all this licensing stuff is
that generally companies are only after money from those who can afford to pay,
its
Well I always have very mixed feelings about patents because of what a mess can
potentially be caused, especially for the web. Luckily some pragmatism tends to
occur otherwise we'd have been stuffed by previous patent woes such as Amazon
1-click buy or BTs claim to hold a patent for hyperlinks.
To be honest I dont remember computers choking on 320x240 4 years ago. I know
that around 5 years ago when Apple put some 720p H.264 videos on their website
quite a lot of computers struggled to handle it.
I guess bandwidth and procesing power are still issues, which along with device
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Brook Hinton bhin...@... wrote:
If we accept EITHER h.264 or Ogg as even close to an acceptable standard for
online video quality we're in trouble. We have a long long long way to go in
this area before we can call any codec at online bandwidth good. h.264
There were strong rumours of youtube offering such a service back in early 2008
but as far as I know all that happened was a one-off streamed event that
November. Since then I think they may have streamed a few other large events,
but I havent heard anything else.
Cheers
Steve Elbows
--- In
Actually if you use older camera technology and go above 320x240 then you are
at risk of running into interlacing issues. This isnt a problem if your editing
encoding software can deinterlace and you understand the issue, but certainly
when vloggers first started experimenting with 640x480 I
I would guess that its partly the extra work the publisher has to go through
like you say, but also some other technical issues to do with how the plugin
works in practice, along with whatever the story is regarding what happened to
ShowInABox and other video module plugins that it tried to
There is already at least one:
http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/degradable-html5-audio-and-video/
I doubt it is perfect yet but this stuff isnt too hard to achieve so I expect
we'll get a variety of solutions in the years to come.
Cheers
Steve Elbows
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com,
Oh. I expected more web video companies to go bust more quickly than has
actually been the case, so in some ways I am surprised it took this long for
another well-known player to fail.
Ive read at least one article that suggests the Universal Music lawsuit was the
main factor that killed them
By the way their website is still up as I write this, although when poking
around I note they havnt put a new press-release on their site since December
2008.
Did some brief trawling through the archives of this group circa 2005-2006 and
saw one reason why I remember Veoh - Their founder was
There is a rich spectrum of problems in this area and I dont see any signs that
any have improved since we first talked about these issues years ago.
Problems such as:
Creating compelling content
Getting an audience large enough to monetize in any meaningful way
Lack of promotion capabilities
Do you think its safe to try discussing the creation aspect, now that there are
presumably less people participating here, and there is no longer a danger of
urinating on the newborn flames of vlog hope where everything seemed possible
because that time has long passed?
I'll pick one vital
Greetings,
You know Im not a giant fan of this era of hosted services in some ways, but
seeing as thats the present reality I was looking at sites which aggregate
stuff from the likes of twitter, vimeo, facebook, flickr into one nice site
that can be used as an equivalent to a blog/your public
with a variety of services. The means to aggregate stuff nicely from a
vairety of services has not turned out quite as straightforward from a
technical perspective as may once have been hoped here.
Cheers
Steve Elbows
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, elbowsofdeath st...@... wrote:
Greetings
There are a few different technical reasons I can think of why Jays solution
should not work in a variety of cases. In fact Im rather surprised it works at
all.
I can well imagine it working if the hard drive is connected to the computer
using FW800, and happens to have some FW400 ports on it,
Its interesting stuff. Adobe have offered it for years providing you use their
flash media server. As already mentioned Silverlight can do it, but again you
need some Microsoft tech on the server side. Apple offer it via http streaming
which their more recent iphones, ipad, safari quicktime
So I hear the Streamy's this year were a disaster in several key ways and have
gotten all the wrong sort of attention as a result.
There is some concern that it has damaged the image of the 'industry', although
it may be easy to overstate this point. It certainly didnt help, but the
'industry'
, elbowsofdeath steve@ wrote:
So I hear the Streamy's this year were a disaster in several key ways and
have gotten all the wrong sort of attention as a result.
There is some concern that it has damaged the image of the 'industry',
although it may be easy to overstate this point
Despite my OP on the Streamys being rather negative, and my tendency to be
negative and unproductive in general, I still care rather a lot about this
industry. We are well beyond the era where I would get caught up in fears that
the industrial aspirations of some would harm the non-industry
Yeah one of the reasons I always throw my hat in with h.264 in these
discussions is because of the practical reasons why h.264 is easier for almost
everyone, at least until such a time as h.264 licensing actually sucks rather
than just theoretically sucks.
Im still glad Google appear to be
to
convince various large websites to make versions of the site that dont use
flash for video, with mixed results so far.
Cheers
Steve Elbows
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, elbowsofdeath st...@... wrote:
It really will be interesting to see what happens with browsers, Google
Yes I think there are quite a few potential gains along the lines you indicate.
As for h.264 charging issues, I only expect them to attempt to charge people
who have the ability, incentive revenues to pay. I suppose it could happen,
but its more likely that those higher up the chain, eg
Microsoft are desperately trying to stop driving web professionals users mad
with their browsers.
In the IE9 Platform Preview demo keynotes stuff they did a month ago, they
showed youtube with html5 video working on IE9. They did not mention h.264 by
name in the demo, but it clearly was.
The saga continues:
http://news.tubefilter.tv/2010/04/26/the-truth-about-the-streamy-awards-and-the-iawtv/
http://www.rebuildthetrust.org/
There are a few mouths agape right now. The audacity! I would not be surprised
if IAWTV is in need of some reform and far far greater transparency, but it
For reasons that are unclear to me, I think that Miro converter is tending to
encode to mpeg4 rather than h.264, at least with the presets they provide?
Yeah Android has potential, think Im going to wait a bit longer before trying
it though, think it could use just a tad more polish. Would like
Personally I would look at it from the perspective that she originally used
internet video to connect with other people that were isolated in hospital,
and that once you have made meaningful connections in this way it may seem
quite natural to carry on until the end.
Cheers
Steve Elbows
---
.. and death.
...peace...richard
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 5:29 AM, elbowsofdeath st...@... wrote:
Personally I would look at it from the perspective that she originally used
internet video to connect with other people that were isolated in
hospital, and that once you have made
mich...@... wrote:
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:27 PM, elbowsofdeath st...@... wrote:
Their other main focus beyond supporting standards was on
hardware-accelerating lots of stuff, be it svg or css3 or video.
BTW, that kind of stuff is coming to Firefox too. One of the things
I've learned
Jobs cant really say much about VP8 until oogle make an official announcement
about it can he? When that time comes, I predict the main argument will be
along the lines of lack of VP8 hardware decoding.
As for Quicktime,if we care about open standards then thank god Quicktime
multimedia
There is no future-proof perfect answer at this stage.
VP8 may be the longterm answer but even if its a roaring success it will take
years to reach the promised land.
Like it or not, H264 is the answer for at least the next few years, if not
longer. With one H.264 file you can cater for most
Looks like things may be about to turn uglier on this front:
http://blogs.fsfe.org/hugo/2010/04/open-letter-to-steve-jobs/
Jobs has apparently replied:
'From: Steve Jobs
To: Hugo Roy
Subject: Re:Open letter to Steve Jobs: Thoughts on Flash
Date 30/04/2010 15:21:17
All video codecs are covered
Im confused, this subject isnt where the thread started at all, it started with
the rumours about Google opening up VP8. Most of the talk about downsides of
theora has been to do with quality, hardware decoding, quantity of videos
already in H.264. The potential for patent problems with theora
are
just fighting last year's battle.
- Verdi
On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 12:33 PM, elbowsofdeath st...@... wrote:
Im confused, this subject isnt where the thread started at all, it started
with the rumours about Google opening up VP8. Most of the talk about
downsides of theora has
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert Howe rup...@... wrote:
Fair enough, I guess, though it seems a pretty open secret. And
they've bought it, right? So it's not irrelevant, and the possibility
should deserve some recognition in a full honest discussion?
Yeah but I certainly
Just trying to extract the interesting topic of multimedia from the video
format discussion.
I dont really know whee to start, Ive always been interested in it, although as
mentioned previously I get a bit lost when I actually try to flesh out some
vague ideas into something more solid and
I very much doubt that you have to be a user of the service in order to file a
takedown notice under the DMCA. You being banned from youtube should have no
bearing on your your ability to protect your copyright.
Cheers
Steve
we can't even protest use of our video by others because our
What are you going on about?
Protecting your copyrighted works via takedown notices is not the same as
signing up for the site in order to upload content.
And other people cannot claim to be the copyright holder and start throwing
takedown notices around on your behalf, that we be bogus and an
Well I think that article raises some important issues. Its more than a tad
hysterical in some respects though.
Lets face it, there is no end of legal smallprint issues, if we paid attention
to every last one and assumed worst case scenarios as that article does, I
could hardly get out of bed
no idea about new media, etc...and it's kinda hard NOT to go
worst case
Heath
http://heathparks.com/blog
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, elbowsofdeath steve@ wrote:
Well I think that article raises some important issues. Its more than a tad
hysterical in some respects
in time and space under current normal
brain function.
Sull
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 11:52 AM, elbowsofdeath st...@... wrote:
Oh I dont know. Considering that the companies who hold the patents for
things like H.264 are also companies that need us to both consume and create
media
I dont think its anything to do with NDAs, the issue for opensource projects is
not about the code being open, but the cost if the license fee for using H.264.
And certainly there may be an issue with them not being able to control how
many copies of their OS/app are out there due to allowing
Slightly off-topic but Ive ranted here before about wanting servies that are
not tied to one corporate entity.
There seem to be a few different projects working on this sort of stuff, Ive
not had toime to look at the detail yet but here are their sites:
http://onesocialweb.org/
Here is the project website:
http://www.webmproject.org/
I hope it does well and they can make the encoding and decoding efficient quite
quickly, and that lots of tools sprout up quickly.
Its almost still to early even to do some initial testing, but I shall give it
a go in the coming days.
It always takes some time for developers to work their magic and create stuff
that end-users can use. I expect there to be a good mix of free low-price
encoders, along with integration into many existing tools.
Its very early days, and the lack of encoders isnt much of a problem at this
://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/05/19/x264_developer_says_googles_new_vp8_webm_codec_is_a_mess.html
Page 2 of that article is where the depressing stuff lurks.
Cheers
Steve Elbows
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, elbowsofdeath st...@... wrote:
It always takes some time for developers
of
electricity the potential patent nightmares down the road.
Cheers
Steve Elbows
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, elbowsofdeath st...@... wrote:
Here is an article about the developer who has looked at VP8 and found
various problems. Hopefully the reality is not as bad as the article
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Brook Hinton bhin...@... wrote:
Yes, there are apparently big time issues with not just functions but out
and out code shared with h.264, and with some inefficiencies in the current
implementation. But it's early.
I'm actually not all that happy about
Yeah I shall give it a year to see hwo it does before reaching any conclusions.
At this stage by biggest problem is how much CPU it uses to playback, quality
seems ok to me but CPU use is not. Hope that can be improved substantially and
the hardware (eg GPU) decoding stuff happens quite
playback,
it's dead in the water, no replay.
--
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Cyberculturalist
http://theory.isthereason.com // @brainopera
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On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 11:17 PM, elbowsofdeath st...@... wrote:
I noticed that this HTML5 h.264
Regarding flash:
It certainly got round the nightmares with OS differences, install this plugin,
etc etc, and played a massive role in videoblogging and other video on the web
going mainstream in a big way. Its kinda hard to imagine vlogging taking off to
the extent it did without flash, but
OK so finally the iPhone reaches a stage where it can start to live up to our
expectations for what a powerful mobile device should be able to offer for
video.
Obviously not the only device in the world that can do these things but if
Apple have designed the editing app very well and the
://www.clickonf5.org/internet/iframe-and-flash-embed-code-supporting-html5-for-youtube-compared/8517
http://www.clickonf5.org/internet/iframe-and-flash-embed-code-supporting-html5-for-youtube-compared/8517
j
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 2:00 PM, elbowsofdeath st...@... wrote:
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