Yes, I have informed the Accessibility team at Apple and strongly urged others
who had a similar issue to do so too.
On 2 Nov 2012, at 00:20, Trea Abma trea.a...@gmail.com wrote:
I hope they'll repair them one day.
Did you write Apple about it?
-Original Message- From: Andrew
Hi list,
Please does anyone know where Tweetlist stores al tweets? Are they kept on the
server or stored in the iphone?
Thank you very much for your help.
Have a wonderful day.
Maria
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Not sure what you edit your pages in, but can't you type them freehand in a
plain text editor? or whatever you edit in.
format:-
a href=your.url/here!your link title here!/a
That's all a link is.
R!
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No issues here thus far as well.
On Nov 2, 2012, at 12:00 AM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
I have just updated both my iPhone 4S and my iPhone 5. I am having no issues
with having to repeatedly turn the rotor to delete messages in mail. Of
course I understand that mileage may
I updated all three of my i devices and so far so good no problems.
haven't checked email yet to see if that issue is there. I did notice
when the devices are first turned on the slugginess i experienced on my
IPod 4th gen and IPhone 4 isn't as bad. The update seems to be ok so far.
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I would guess since installing on two different computers and to have access to
each particular computer, you would need separate accounts, one for each
computer.
From: Godwin Adoyi
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 2:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: TONIDO ADVICE AND QUESTIONS
Hi Scott,
Are their any benefits that you've discovered by upgrading? While I can change
the rotor in order to delete messages, this is a negative in terms of
upgrading. However, if there are specific feature enhancements, then I will
consider and likely update the IOS. Thanks.
Les
On Nov
Hi All,
My iPad Mini has arrived, initial impressions are very good, it has the all
over smooth gloss finish as the iPad 2 and 3 have, the build quality, despite
its overall finness is solid and rigid. The weight difference is Unbelievable,
I am totally amazed at how much lighter this feels
Chris.
What is the name of the keyboard?
Thanks
Pablo
- Original Message -
From: Chris christopher...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 5:33 PM
Subject: New Apple Wireless Keyboard
I received this today after only ordering it yesterday. I got it
These r really great news
But may I ask, if I have an I phone, why will I buy the ipad mini?
Cheers:
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If music be the food of love... play on.
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You would need two accounts
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Godwin Adoyi
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 2:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: TONIDO ADVICE AND QUESTIONS
Hi,
I have a question: With my two
Hi
Thank you. I would like to stay on the list. Plan on getting a I phone in
the new year.
Sharon
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Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: November-01-12 3:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re:
Hello listers,
I am new to IOS applications and I intend tobuy either the iPhone or iPad this month. I am an advanced computer user, and a heavy
user of Microsoft word for my work activities. Is there any highly accessible word processing app that works quite well with the
VoiceOver on the
Hallo Richard,
thank you for buying the ColorVisor. I'm sorry that you haven't had much
success with it, so far. Could you please deliver me more details so that I can
get an impression of the problem? Which device do you use? Which object(s) did
you try to scan? Do you know something about
Hi, I believe he said it was the Apple Keyboard. Like what's in the
subject line, smile.
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Hi. The OBI Tech phone bridge home page is at www.obihai.com/. However
you can get them from Amazon. Just do a search for obi phone bridge.
There are a couple of models to choose from. Some more basic than
others. In regards to Vonage I think you might be out of luck. From
their specifications
I am able to find an app, I tap the screen, the description opens, however I am
unable to get past the first page. Any suggestions?
Fred Olver
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for me, it is my consumption device, I use it to watch TV programs and movies,
that would otherwise drain my iPhone battery… In addition, and this is a big
thing for me, there are certain Apps only available for iPad and not iPhone.
Regards,
Neil Barnfather
Talks List Administrator
Twitter
Sieghard,
Absolutely, for me I was somewhat shocked at just how perfect this size is… To
me the iPod Touch makes no sense at all, I already have an iPhone.
So I've bought and used happily the iPad1, 2 and most recently the ipad3.
I have just taken delivery of the iPad Mini and will also be
You can also go to a file or folder with windows explorer and use the
application key. There is an option for tonido one click sharing. This will
put a URL on your clipboard for pasting to an email.
Thom
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Hi.
The double vibration feature was around in 6.0. It worked with my
iPhone 4, but not 100% of the time. Also, the action rotor option does
not always work in Mail, even with 6.0. In fact, there is a bug in
braille where sometimes when you're in Mail, you have to turn speech
on to switch rotor
I find navigating the various screens with the joystick on the RB 18
to be very effective. The only 2 flaws with the RB 18 that I have
found are the USB plug and the fact that when the battery gets down to
1 third remaining, it will flash a battery low message in uncontracted
braille that will
Hi Rebecca.
The other thing you can do is hit space with g to turn contracted
braille off, and then put in your question mark. Just know that you
have to use computer braille, so in this case, the question mark
becomes dots 1-4-5-6. 2-3-6 then becomes the number 8.
Scott
On 11/2/12, Scott Davert
There is no command that will do the double tap with 2 fingers gesture
that I'm aware of. Space with P will pause speech if it's reading
something, but it will not, for example, stop music or answer a call.
Hope this helps,
Scott
On 11/1/12, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
The latest incarnation works well for me, although, as stated
previously, there are many other sources of books. Some of the books
are relatively inexpensive, and once purchased online with the computer
I find them easy to access, and red with Blio and it saves my spot very well.
Steve
The short answer to your question is no.
Someone who is more adept with the Apple Pages app will need to comment if
you can do any of those things with it, but that would be the only possible
app right now that might do a little of what you want.
The thing to keep in mind is that these devices
Neil,
Will the I Pad Mini fit in one hand? Please describe it as I can't get an Idea
from the description. For instance, compare it to the I phone 5.
Kawal.
On Nov 2, 2012, at 10:15 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav for...@talknav.com
wrote:
Hi All,
My iPad Mini has arrived, initial
What kind of Apps Neil? I mean what different Apps are for the I Pad?
Kawal.
On Nov 2, 2012, at 12:31 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav for...@talknav.com
wrote:
for me, it is my consumption device, I use it to watch TV programs and
movies, that would otherwise drain my iPhone battery… In
Hello. My name is Jessica. I am 17 years old and I live in Canada
in the province of BC. I am blind and I have an iPhone 4s running
iOS 6. I use VoiceOver. I am wondering if you could develop some
apps for me and other people who are blind or visually impaired
and who use Apple products? If
Thank you for your comment. Is there any basic spreadsheet and presentation apps which I can use just to make basic editings to an
excell file and display a powerpoint presentation I have previously created using my Microsoft suite of applications.
Sorry for my questions, but I need to make
Hi Neil, I had not heard there is an Ipad 4 available or soon to be
available. Could you please give more info or send a link along to read
about the Ipad 4? We are getting ready to update and would be interested to
hear about a 4.
Thank you,
Lynda
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From:
Cheryl,
I am not having this issue either.
Nicki
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 2, 2012, at 12:00 AM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
I have just updated both my iPhone 4S and my iPhone 5. I am having no issues
with having to repeatedly turn the rotor to delete messages in mail. Of
Hello Fred,
The comment I have for you, is that you can not buy books from
Blio through the app, you have to go to the Blio website, buy
your book and then put it in the library and then you can read it
from the app.
I hope this helps,
- Original Message -
From: Fred Olver
Hi, all,
I thought I'd tack my question onto the end of this thread, since it's related.
When I try to log in with the IPhone app, I always get a password error or
server error. I'm using the password I always use to log in on the computer,
which works fine. Anyone know what I may be doing
I thought this, but can't understand how the iOs app is then going to hold
details for both; and you can't install it twice.
Hummmnmnmnm,...bit of a puzzler!
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From: MamaPeach mamape...@charter.net
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012
no no, separate things; iPhone is one phone, landline is the other,...
downstairs like I said. So I keep iPhoneo n 24/7, upstairs. I had a VoIP
phone once, but quality was pretty gross; so discontinued that. I think I
chucked that phone away, quite expensive too.
RobH.
- Original
I can picture it now. something to think about.
Thank you.
Kawal.
On Nov 2, 2012, at 1:54 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav for...@talknav.com
wrote:
Kawal,
That I can do, putting my iPhone 5 directly on top of the iPad Mini, the
iPhone 5 is a third of the size almost exactly.
In other
Hi all,
If I no longer wish to have music on my iPhone, and I delete it from the phone,
how do I keep my mac from putting it back when I sync things like contacts?
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Thank you all for your responses to my questions concerning BLIO.
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From: Robert Stigile rstig...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 9:13 AM
Subject: re: using blio?
Hello Fred,
The comment I have for you, is that you
I was told that the reason the battery prompt keeps showing is that once you
actually let the battery go down completely it really does take a while for it
to recharge. As for the USB cable a lot of people seem to be complaining about
that but I really have had very little problem with it. I
Hi Stacy. For me, it's the same as with the old earbuds. Click the
centre button once to pause or twice quickly to skip to the next
song. I think holding it down longer lets you go backwards or does
something else.
On 11/2/12, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net wrote:
Hi all,
I just got
I had to figure out your answer, but here it is. After logging in with the
first account, go to the setting button in the lower right corner.
Then in the upper left corner there is a switch button. Click that and you
can log into the second account.
Here's the neat part.
Then go to the settings
Hi Jessica,
Wow, that was quite the email! I am not sure who it is intended for since
while there are a few developers on the list who are blind and a few who are
not, but who monitor the list to some degree because they have an app that
is of interest to us, I am not sure your message will reach
Thanks very much. I didn't know you could do that with the older earbuds.
On Nov 2, 2012, at 9:56 AM, Michael Feir wrote:
Hi Stacy. For me, it's the same as with the old earbuds. Click the
centre button once to pause or twice quickly to skip to the next
song. I think holding it down longer
So, does would removing QuickTime affect the phone's programs functions in
any way-or just the PC side of playing videos? The only thing I found on
Google was that QT was necessary for ACC conversions, but I always use the
Apple Losless version. Thanks.
Cher
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From:
Hi Stacey,
Here is what you can do with both the old earbuds and the new earpods:
A single press of the centre button (slightly resessed): Play/Pause music or
whatever you are currently playing (Audible, Downcast etc.) If your phone
rings this will answer/hang up the phone call, if a second call
Hi.
You can do this by going into settings/ mail, contacts calendars, and
then under your account, there is an option called fetch data. You can
set it to check for new every 10 minutes, 30 or 60. not sure if there
are other times you can sschedule it. Either way, the phone will ding
and vibrate
Do you still have to deal with containers on the Mini?
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 3:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; The Accessible Phones Discussion List
Hi Stacey,
Connect your iPhone to the computer, find it in the Source list and then tab
until you hear Music. I am not sure if you use Windows or a Mac, but if it
is Windows press the space bar to check the checkbox, then tab until you get
to where it says Sync Music. If it is checked you can tab
All, I downloaded the blio app and I think my desktop came with the
software; what is it, how does it work?
Paul
-Original Message-
From: Steve Robertson
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 9:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: using blio?
The latest incarnation works well
Neal, Are you reading Economist and NY Times via newstand? When I tried the NY
Times last on my full-sized iPad, it was really not accessible, whereas the
iPhone app is perfectly so. And I think they say that the app on the phone
offers all the content as well.
Mary
Mary Otten
In a nutshell, you set up and acount with blio with the blio mobile
store, purchase books in the blio mobile store, and then download and
read them on your I phone or on your desktop computer.
Steve
Original message:
All, I downloaded the blio app and I think my desktop came with the
Wow, I didn't realize that the earpods and earbuds would do that much.
Cool.
On Nov 2, 2012, at 10:58 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Hi Stacey,
Here is what you can do with both the old earbuds and the new earpods:
A single press of the centre button (slightly resessed): Play/Pause music or
Do they read with JAWS and VO?
Is it its own website?
-Original Message-
From: Steve Robertson
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 1:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: using blio?
In a nutshell, you set up and acount with blio with the blio mobile
store, purchase books in the
Magic! Thanks.
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From: Thom thom3...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 3:13 PM
Subject: RE: TONIDO ADVICE AND QUESTIONS
I had to figure out your answer, but here it is. After logging in with the
first account, go to the setting
I didn't receive an email but nevermind I seem to have got going thanks to
everyone who helped.
Carol P
Sent from my iPhone
On 1 Nov 2012, at 11:24 PM, Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca wrote:
Hi,
You should have received your URL by e-mail. You only needed user name,
password
I got a 3GS and this doesn't surprise me. Constant use, and any kind of
stream processing is surely that; does drain steadily.
R!
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From: Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com
To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 3:32 PM
Subject: TuneIn
I'm precisely where you are Rob. Am off to play with one in a few minutes, and
will pass along my thoughts/observations upon returning. Granted, playing while
at Apple is different to doing so in your own space, amid your own apps, though
perhaps I'm merely making a psychological case for
You've created a monster Neil. :D
Take care
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 2, 2012, at 1:46 PM, Rob Harris bobs...@googlemail.com wrote:
Ok, I was thinking about this, and getting tempted all the time!... but
the lady needs to check if her hands are large enough to hold an iPhone
Does anyone know whether the new iPad mini or the 4 vibrate to alert
of incoming stuff?
Scott
On 11/2/12, ShamelessFanGirl shamelessfang...@gmail.com wrote:
You've created a monster Neil. :D
Take care
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 2, 2012, at 1:46 PM, Rob Harris bobs...@googlemail.com wrote:
Look in the recently purchased folder under iTunes. It should be mixed in
with play lists.
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of don bishop
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 9:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject:
I always read books using VO in Read2Go.
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone
On 03/11/2012, at 4:49, Tara Prakash taraprak...@gmail.com wrote:
How does the TTS on blio compare with TTS on Read2Go?
I want some app that allows
Numbers for Excel and KeyNote for PowerPoint.
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone
On 03/11/2012, at 2:47, Ahmed Khater aakhater@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you for your comment. Is there any basic spreadsheet and presentation
Blio will read continuously now, with a two finger swipe down the
screen just like with sffari or i books. Im strarting to think most
peiple haven't tried the latest version of Blio and are still thinking
of Blio in it's first version.
Steve
Original message:
That just seems like too much
P. S. I don't think Blio's braille support is diferent from I books or
other readers, but I haven't tried it with a braille display.
Steve
Original message:
That just seems like too much work to me, when I can download a book
that is equally as accessible through iBooks and have it on my
I use the 3 finger double tap to mute speech when on a call with my
headset, and then unmute it when done with the call. I would rather do
this than close VO altogether, as mentioned earlier since the standard
gestures are different than when VO is running. This way, even if I
hang up the call
Is there an app dedicated to old-time radio programming that is accessible to
voiceover. Or, is there a better radio app for finding old-time stations. I
currently use ooTunes and they do have quite a number of choices.
All thanks in advance!
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If you have some time, you can also browse by location, and gradually
drill down from the continent, country, state, city, and then station,
depending how your cities/towns are listed where you live. Though this
takes longer, I have often found stations that I wasn't expecting by
going this way.
OTRStreamer is decent; Vintage Radio is, too, but costs a few bucks
per month to access the whole collection.
The audio section of Archive.org is also a great one to bookmark as
they have countless episodes of oldtime radio and they're all free.
Grant
On 11/2/12, Eric sseri...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
Does anyone know if SlingBox is accessible on the iPhone? I would also like to
know if it is accessible from the Mac as well, but have posted this part of my
question on the Mac list that I am on.
If the SlingBox app is not accessible, is the Dish app accessible? I have been
told by
Hi listers,
I got my IPhone5 a couple of weeks ago, and for a hwile every time I
plugged the phone into my windows7 computer, itunes would start and I
could see the phone in the list of sources.
However, now when I plug the phone into hte computer, itunes doesn't
start and if I have itunes
Yes, Wayne, I have a 4S and see the same faster entering in text fields.
Fleksy seems also more responsive which I truly don't understand, but it is
a bonus!
Reggie
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Wayne Merritt
Sent:
It is also possible that the mobile access didn't load. That has happened
to me a lot since the last update of iTunes. To fix this, you have to do
different things dependin g on which version of the operating system you
have on your computer.You can go through iTunes help and search for Apple
Hi Anna,
I discovered that my usb hub is apparently not working quite correctly.
While it provides power, it isn't making a good data connection so
when I plugged the phone into the usb port on the computer directly,
it did appear in the list of devices in itunes.
Now I just have to figure out
HI all,
THanks for all your suggestions.
I finally found a belt clip case that supposedly works with the commuter case.
It was on ebay. Will let you know if it works.
I like the idea of a pouch for when belt is not an option. Maybe one can put
the blt clip on a strap?
Take care,
Ioana
Yes, this is excellent!
I have another question: how does the synchronization app works?
I'm made to understand that I can synchronize files or folders between two
computers.
Many thanks,
Godwin
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
In operating system 6.0 there is an error in the calendar in which voice over
will not indicate which calendar is selected. After updating to 6.01 I find
that sometimes groups of contacts will not indicate they are selected in the
phone app. I recommend not updating to 6.01 until Apple fixes
I'm not a 4s user, but I think you need to tell us how much you're being
asked to pay for it, and whether it is locked or unlocked.
Cheers
Alex
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Andrew Lamanche
Sent: 02 November 2012 22:31
To:
There is a folder that you can put files in. They will automatically sync
with your IOS device. Useful for songs and documents that you use often.
Thom
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Godwin Adoyi
Sent: Friday, November
Well, when Apple have fixed this issue it won't be ios 601 anymore will it?
Cheers
Alex
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of James Lockwood
Sent: 02 November 2012 22:33
To: iphone group
Subject: Calendar selection error has
I received my Mini earlier today and of course have been stuck to it like
glue for the last couple of hours. I've noticed something strange with
regard to screen orientation detection and I'm not sure if it's a possible
defect, or it's just that way.
I'm used to the iPhone so maybe iPads are a
Hi all.
I am learning how use this app, that I used before, but not so much, and no
very well either.
That I am trying to do, is for example if I have 700 songs in my iPhone, in
this hundreds of songs are 10 singers, but i want to listen just 2 singers,
not the 2 singers of the complete list of
Raul, maybe not, but I thought that was what he was asking.
Alex
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: 03 November 2012 00:53
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Advice on purchasing iPhone 4s
Because
When the Iphone 5 first came out I saw a list of values for older phones.
Depending on storage, I believe the 4s was around $200, give or take.
Tony
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Friday, November
My 4S is plenty good enough for me, Only had it since July so I am not even
considering a 5 at this point.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Andrew Lamanche
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 3:31 PM
To: VIPhone
Subject:
Hi all. my friend is trying to find the automatically add to iTunes folder. we
looked under the c drive under users under his name and didn't find it.we also
looked under defult and didn't find it eather. I am trying to help my friend
find this folder to add music in it and he can sink it with
All,
This afternoon I finally had a few minutes to try the updated version of
Cribbage Pro. They listed VO improvements under what is new. They
meant it! It is now a real pleasure to use! Before this update I could
use it but it required some focus. Now it speaks quite well, alerting
me to
I used to play but I forgot how the game is played? Does anyone have
rules for play?
Thanks
On 11/2/2012 9:33 PM, Len Burns wrote:
All,
This afternoon I finally had a few minutes to try the updated version of
Cribbage Pro. They listed VO improvements under what is new. They
meant it!
Also what is the developers name so I can pick the correct app
Sent from INEZ, my IPHONE
On Nov 2, 2012, at 10:55 PM, Greg ma...@windstream.net
gregma...@valornet.com wrote:
I used to play but I forgot how the game is played? Does anyone have rules
for play?
Thanks
On 11/2/2012
You beat me to the punch in pointing this out.
I had requested the automatic speaking of scoring and the play and the
developer said he would try.
Well, this is absolutely brilliant!
I too will be dropping him a thank you note and giving it 5 stars.
Richard
-Original Message-
From:
It is called
Cribbage Pro
The developer is
Fuller Systems, INC
-Len
On 11/2/2012 8:02 PM, cnmyh...@gmail.com wrote:
Also what is the developers name so I can pick the correct app
Sent from INEZ, my IPHONE
On Nov 2, 2012, at 10:55 PM, Greg ma...@windstream.net
gregma...@valornet.com
The 4S is extremely robust, solid, and snappy. Definitely a worthy
choice if you can save some dough. Some people even prefer the design
of the 4S to the 5.
Grant
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you listen to the podcast from garth on pages, you will get good info.
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I can confirm that, I just saw the update this afternoon and noted it had
improved Voiceover access as one of the listed features.
Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live
at the expense of everybody else.
-Frederic Bastiat
Steve
Lansing, MI
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The other thing that may be happening is when you first turn it on it sometimes
may take a while before it pares. Some time's you just have to waite a bit like
I have to do with one of my blue tooth headsets.
Hope that helps you.
On 2012-11-01, at 7:13 PM, Debbi Williamson
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