RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out
I've found that if I use the compact voice that rairly happens. Debbie -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Danielle McCullough Sent: Tuesday, 8 May 2012 9:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out No, it is a bug, it happens to me all the time. It will especially happen if you are swiping through something very quickly. It's like it goes in to overload. Danielle - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 10:40 PM Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out This is not an issue I have encountered. Have you determined a pattern? For example, have you found this issue occurs when using a certain app? Have you tried (yes I know it's painful) reinstalling from scratch? Sometimes something does become corrupted or some software conflict has occurred that only seems to be resolved when starting from a complete restore back to factory settings. On May 7, 2012, at 5:37 PM, Cristobal wrote: The speech locking up where Voiceover will just go silent for sixty to ninety seconds at a time for no reason or solution other than either restarting the phone or waiting out the sixty or ninety seconds for Voiceover to come back. For all the great accessibility Apple's done with the phone, this is a major bug one would figure would be addressed by now in some fashion. Then again, who knows, maybe it's just not that easy to fix. I recently got an iPad 2 and for the first week or so, I hadn't experienced that issue and started getting all jazzed that maybe it was just an iPhone thing, but of course, reality had to step in and and yesterday, I experienced the Voiceover going silent bug twice in about an hour's time. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 2:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out Um, what speech locking up are you talking about? I don't have that issue. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:15 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out It doesn't really sound like this release addressed much. I would not be surprised if there are few or no fixes for anything accessibility. They may have made a quick fix for the app launching on unlock since people made such a huge deal out of that small avoidable not really a problem issue, but I wish they would fix the speech locking up over that one. It is really strange though that they put out this release to fix what appear to be such minor issues and they let huge issues hang out there for 6 or 9 months until some planned release and at least claim to have addressed them. Purely speculation here of course on all of this, but I am betting there was some change in this release that Apple has some motivation to make and it is not written anywhere. Something like a jailbreak whole patched or something. On 5/7/12, Veronica Elsea veron...@laurelcreekmusic.com wrote: Anyone know if 5.1.1 addresses the blue tooth issue that prevented the Braille Sense OnHand from working properly with the phone? Thanks. Veronica At 01:07 PM 5/7/2012, you wrote: Another issue not addressed, apparently, is in the calendar. When you select all day as an option, it Kicks you completely out of the calendar still. It does not give me hope that they have addressed the speech locking up issue, either. We can only hope! Telephone: (614) 522-9725 Skype: sseric57 On May 7, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: Well it may be a little early to tell if this issue has been addressed, but I am not seeing the issue where occasionally the phone app would launch when I unlocked the screen. So, this may be one item not addressed in the release notes. I guess only time will tell. On May 7, 2012, at 3:11 PM, Cristobal wrote: I downloaded it this time with no issues. The one bug I was glad to see addressed and I always encountered was that purchase prompt error every time I downloaded an app about how x number of items were unable to be downloaded. Other than that, I didn't notice anything on the list of fixes that I had trouble with. I guess I'll keep an eye out per say for any accessibility improvements/fixes. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 11:54 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Hi Jenifer and all, Just because accessibility isn't mentioned in the summary of the update doesn't necessarily mean no accessibility improvements will be included. There may not be any, but there
Can Anyone Verify This Major Issue I'm Having With Google Books? Can't Turn Pages
Hi, all, I used to be able to use Braille commands to flip pages in Google Books. Somehow, after I got the latest version, I discovered that I can't use the Braille display to switch pages, nor can I use the page chooser. If I try using the page chooser, it jumps all over the book, even with gestures on the touchscreen. I've tried reinstalling the app. Has anyone else experienced this? Is it possible I have something set wrong? My sighted husband says everything looks normal, however. I'd really appreciate some assistance, as there were several books I hadn't finished reading before this problem happened, and I'd also like to know if it's an accessibility breakage. Thanks, Teresa Nobody ever tells me anything!--James Forsyte, quoted in the Forsyte Saga -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Mark On iPhone On Trekker Breeze
Hello Mark and all. First I'd like to thank Mark for taking the time to tell us about his latest GPS adventure. Secondly, his article or message brings up the question if we will ever get the same kind of thing on the I Phone as like him I learned to use GEO but now that my device is no longer working, I make do with Ariadne GPS but for me it's not Geo. Navigon does not work for me ! I wait for someding to come out like Geo. Thanks again Mark and may your travels be fruitful and stress free. Kawal. On 8 May 2012, at 12:30 AM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Hello Everyone, In 2005 I purchased my first GPS solution; it was the Trekker/Maestro Del 51 PDA from HumanWare. If memory serves, among other difficulties, the PDA did not have an Off button. When not in use, it had to be plugged into a charger to prevent power loss. Be that as it may, it was the most amazing piece of technology I had experienced. Back in those days, I was using a Motorola TimePort which was an upgrade to the Star Trek Motorola phone. Of course, these phones had virtually no accessibility but, still they were usable. Sometime in 2007/2008 I switched to my first Windows Mobile phone. That was to be the beginning of a lot of changes in my life not the least of which was my subsequent association with Code Factory. Enter Mobile Geo; this onboard GPS software solution put the power of true independent GPS navigation for the blind and low vision on a cell phone. So, I put away my then outdated Trekker/Maestro PDA. Then, of course, came yet another game changer; the iPhone. For whatever reason I thought that either Code Factory's Mobile Geo or Humanware's Trekker would find its way to iOS. This, obviously, did not happen. As a result, since iPhone 3GS, I have purchased virtually every iOS GPS navigation software app in hopes of bringing the power of Geo or Trekker to a single mobile device. I shutter to think of all the money I have spent on this endeavor (smile). As far as off-the-shelf iOS GPS navigation solutions are concerned, I hold that A T T Wireless Navigator is the most accurate and easy-to-use app on the market. Recently, they added the ability to download the maps to your phone so you can now travel without benefit of a active satellite connection. I believe that the monthly cost for Navigator is $9.95. As wonderful as Navigator is, it falls short of meeting the one criteria I demand in order to recommend it, or any GPS app for that matter, as a solution for true independent navigation by the blind and low vision; said criteria being the ability to have streets, cross-streets, etc automatically announced without engaging any kind of route function or without having to touch, shake, or otherwise interact with the hardware device, itself. Until this past Thursday, my solution, when traveling independently, was to fire up my old beloved Samsung Epix, running Windows 6.1, and launching Geo. I could go on and on about how much of a pain this was given that I can hardly remember any of the Mobile Speak commands as I just don't use my beloved Samsung Epix anymore but I will spare you the gory details. Add to this the fact that I also had to fire up my GPS receiver and connect a special headset adaptor as the Epix does not have a standard headset jack, as many of the models in that era did not. ON Friday, I received my new Trekker Breeze from Humanware; thus, I have come full-circle, as the saying goes. Suffice me to say that the Breeze is every bit as marvelous as the original Trekker and Geo were with the advantage that one does not have to become a software geek in order to be up and running in a matter of minute. It works right out of the box. The Breeze is roughly the same size as the iPhone 4 S but just a little thicker. What an iOS world we live in; even before I powered on my Breeze for the first time, I turned the audio CD files that are included in the package into an audio book complete with cover art and placed it on both my 4 S and Nanno. Then, I converted the user guide and quick start guide into iBooks and placed them on my 4 S. This took only a few minutes. Only after performing these iOS-centric tasks did I power on the Breeze and begin yet another chapter in my GPS navigation life. Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/.
Re: Finding Bar Codes
Hello Nancy. I too am having problems finding the Bar codes after having a demonstration from someone on Skype. I haven't gone through the tutorials yet but would think it was easy to do? aI am totally blind and have no eyes to help me. I just keep pointing the back of my I phone 4S pointing at the package or box and just keep moving it across but nothing! Kawal. On 7 May 2012, at 05:25 PM, Eric SS sseri...@gmail.com wrote: Nancy, I purchased D-E last night. Playing around with it, I tried a bottle of aspirin. I could not find a code on the bottle. I just wonder, since these products generally come packaged inside a box, are there bar codes on the bottle, too? I have not yet had anyone look at the bottle to see if one is there or not. I did try a food can and eventually found the code on it, scanning in the same place and same lighting, but it could not identify the product. I have not yet read all of the training material, but it seemed kind of odd I would have anything in my pantry not fairly commonly available all around the country, unless maybe private store brand items are not as much available in the database? I am looking forward to learning and using this. All thanks! Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
I do not have that bug of silence for up to 90 seconds or so, very rarely does any of my iOS devices go quiet like that... and even when they do, its for no more than say 5 seconds max. do you regularly, and I mean regularly, like every night, empty your app switcher, and restart your phone... I do this religiously every night, clear the switcher and restart the phone. also do this on my iPad, perhaps you are experiencing something which is setting or app specific to your device. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 7 May 2012, at 22:37, Cristobal wrote: The speech locking up where Voiceover will just go silent for sixty to ninety seconds at a time for no reason or solution other than either restarting the phone or waiting out the sixty or ninety seconds for Voiceover to come back. For all the great accessibility Apple's done with the phone, this is a major bug one would figure would be addressed by now in some fashion. Then again, who knows, maybe it's just not that easy to fix. I recently got an iPad 2 and for the first week or so, I hadn't experienced that issue and started getting all jazzed that maybe it was just an iPhone thing, but of course, reality had to step in and and yesterday, I experienced the Voiceover going silent bug twice in about an hour's time. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 2:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out Um, what speech locking up are you talking about? I don't have that issue. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:15 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out It doesn't really sound like this release addressed much. I would not be surprised if there are few or no fixes for anything accessibility. They may have made a quick fix for the app launching on unlock since people made such a huge deal out of that small avoidable not really a problem issue, but I wish they would fix the speech locking up over that one. It is really strange though that they put out this release to fix what appear to be such minor issues and they let huge issues hang out there for 6 or 9 months until some planned release and at least claim to have addressed them. Purely speculation here of course on all of this, but I am betting there was some change in this release that Apple has some motivation to make and it is not written anywhere. Something like a jailbreak whole patched or something. On 5/7/12, Veronica Elsea veron...@laurelcreekmusic.com wrote: Anyone know if 5.1.1 addresses the blue tooth issue that prevented the Braille Sense OnHand from working properly with the phone? Thanks. Veronica At 01:07 PM 5/7/2012, you wrote: Another issue not addressed, apparently, is in the calendar. When you select all day as an option, it Kicks you completely out of the calendar still. It does not give me hope that they have addressed the speech locking up issue, either. We can only hope! Telephone: (614) 522-9725 Skype: sseric57 On May 7, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: Well it may be a little early to tell if this issue has been addressed, but I am not seeing the issue where occasionally the phone app would launch when I unlocked the screen. So, this may be one item not addressed in the release notes. I guess only time will tell. On May 7, 2012, at 3:11 PM, Cristobal wrote: I downloaded it this time with no issues. The one bug I was glad to see addressed and I always encountered was that purchase prompt error every time I downloaded an app about how x number of items were unable to be downloaded. Other than that, I didn't notice anything on the list of fixes that I had trouble with. I guess I'll keep an eye out per say for any accessibility improvements/fixes. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 11:54 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Hi Jenifer and all, Just because accessibility isn't mentioned in the summary of the update doesn't necessarily mean no accessibility improvements will be included. There may not be any, but there have certainly been times in the past where there were some, but they weren't mentioned in the update What's New summary. Best, Anna On May 7, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Jenifer Gilley wrote: Nothing accessibility. A few bugs
Re: Mark On iPhone On Trekker Breeze
Hi Mark, I really enjoyed reading your most informative post. I also purchased the Trekker Breeze at the end of last year. I did so because I wanted an more comprehensive way of accessing walking routes. I do like street names announced, and I have not been able to get that reliably from the commercially available apps. If a company like Sendero comes out with an app comparable to Mobile Geo, I'll probably obtain it, but for now, the Breeze is a really good option and I've made good use of it. Also, even though we have GPS in our vehicle, my wife actually prefers all of the information the Breeze provides when we are on route. Les On May 7, 2012, at 7:30 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Everyone, In 2005 I purchased my first GPS solution; it was the Trekker/Maestro Del 51 PDA from HumanWare. If memory serves, among other difficulties, the PDA did not have an Off button. When not in use, it had to be plugged into a charger to prevent power loss. Be that as it may, it was the most amazing piece of technology I had experienced. Back in those days, I was using a Motorola TimePort which was an upgrade to the Star Trek Motorola phone. Of course, these phones had virtually no accessibility but, still they were usable. Sometime in 2007/2008 I switched to my first Windows Mobile phone. That was to be the beginning of a lot of changes in my life not the least of which was my subsequent association with Code Factory. Enter Mobile Geo; this onboard GPS software solution put the power of true independent GPS navigation for the blind and low vision on a cell phone. So, I put away my then outdated Trekker/Maestro PDA. Then, of course, came yet another game changer; the iPhone. For whatever reason I thought that either Code Factory's Mobile Geo or Humanware's Trekker would find its way to iOS. This, obviously, did not happen. As a result, since iPhone 3GS, I have purchased virtually every iOS GPS navigation software app in hopes of bringing the power of Geo or Trekker to a single mobile device. I shutter to think of all the money I have spent on this endeavor (smile). As far as off-the-shelf iOS GPS navigation solutions are concerned, I hold that A T T Wireless Navigator is the most accurate and easy-to-use app on the market. Recently, they added the ability to download the maps to your phone so you can now travel without benefit of a active satellite connection. I believe that the monthly cost for Navigator is $9.95. As wonderful as Navigator is, it falls short of meeting the one criteria I demand in order to recommend it, or any GPS app for that matter, as a solution for true independent navigation by the blind and low vision; said criteria being the ability to have streets, cross-streets, etc automatically announced without engaging any kind of route function or without having to touch, shake, or otherwise interact with the hardware device, itself. Until this past Thursday, my solution, when traveling independently, was to fire up my old beloved Samsung Epix, running Windows 6.1, and launching Geo. I could go on and on about how much of a pain this was given that I can hardly remember any of the Mobile Speak commands as I just don't use my beloved Samsung Epix anymore but I will spare you the gory details. Add to this the fact that I also had to fire up my GPS receiver and connect a special headset adaptor as the Epix does not have a standard headset jack, as many of the models in that era did not. ON Friday, I received my new Trekker Breeze from Humanware; thus, I have come full-circle, as the saying goes. Suffice me to say that the Breeze is every bit as marvelous as the original Trekker and Geo were with the advantage that one does not have to become a software geek in order to be up and running in a matter of minute. It works right out of the box. The Breeze is roughly the same size as the iPhone 4 S but just a little thicker. What an iOS world we live in; even before I powered on my Breeze for the first time, I turned the audio CD files that are included in the package into an audio book complete with cover art and placed it on both my 4 S and Nanno. Then, I converted the user guide and quick start guide into iBooks and placed them on my 4 S. This took only a few minutes. Only after performing these iOS-centric tasks did I power on the Breeze and begin yet another chapter in my GPS navigation life. Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to
RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out
I am amazed and confounded that so many who have been here for so long and speak as though they have such great knowledge act as though this is an unheard of experience that is brand new and only happening with a very few. This has been going on since IOS5. I know I have discussed it at length and probably too much. Apple has never acknowledged the issue, although they did once ask for clarification of what situations caused it. Trust me, I am a very heavy user and fairly knowledgeable and the issue is real and is not limited just to a few new occurrences on this list. I have tested it under all situations I can come up with on a 4S and old ITouch, with both quality voices and even alternate accents. I have restored both devices on several occasions; complete restores and not merely from backup. I have methodically added applications to the devices to find if maybe one is causing the problem. None of these has revealed anything but randomness. The only thing I can see that is more apt to trigger a lockup is quickly scanning elements. I have found if I stop speech or wait until it has finished speaking, I can reduce the occurrences, but even this does not eliminate them. Recovery seems an inexact science, as well. Eighty seconds seems to be the magic time to allow it to right itself, but I count to 40 and then touch the screen to prevent it going dem or to sleep, and then wait another 40 counts. It may not be exactly 80 seconds, but a count of 80 seems to be about right. Otherwise, you can restart the phone with multiple presses of the power button, but that will start you back at the home screen. I read a lot in Safari, and it is maddening to have to find your place in the middle of the New York Times once or twice per issue. Hence, nursing the device to recover on its own is best. I have had this locking up in nearly every application from those I have purchased to native apps. Again, it seems to be most consistent when skimming from element to element. They do not have to be paragraph length clips, but may be dates in the calendar app. I have presented all of this to Apple on many occasions and have begged their assistance or at least some acknowledgement of the issue. As I said, beyond requesting more information one time, I have never even been given so much as a thank you for your inquiry. The only reasons I can think some don't seem to be having this issue ever is like they used to say with Windows: If you have not crashed, you are not using your computer enough. Well, there could be some Fan Children refusal to believe anything could ever be amiss with one of the annointed's blessings, too,. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 5:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out Um, what speech locking up are you talking about? I don't have that issue. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:15 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out It doesn't really sound like this release addressed much. I would not be surprised if there are few or no fixes for anything accessibility. They may have made a quick fix for the app launching on unlock since people made such a huge deal out of that small avoidable not really a problem issue, but I wish they would fix the speech locking up over that one. It is really strange though that they put out this release to fix what appear to be such minor issues and they let huge issues hang out there for 6 or 9 months until some planned release and at least claim to have addressed them. Purely speculation here of course on all of this, but I am betting there was some change in this release that Apple has some motivation to make and it is not written anywhere. Something like a jailbreak whole patched or something. On 5/7/12, Veronica Elsea veron...@laurelcreekmusic.com wrote: Anyone know if 5.1.1 addresses the blue tooth issue that prevented the Braille Sense OnHand from working properly with the phone? Thanks. Veronica At 01:07 PM 5/7/2012, you wrote: Another issue not addressed, apparently, is in the calendar. When you select all day as an option, it Kicks you completely out of the calendar still. It does not give me hope that they have addressed the speech locking up issue, either. We can only hope! Telephone: (614) 522-9725 Skype: sseric57 On May 7, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: Well it may be a little early to tell if this issue has been addressed, but I am not seeing the issue where occasionally the phone app would launch when I unlocked the screen. So, this may be one item not addressed in the release notes. I guess only time will tell. On May 7, 2012, at 3:11 PM, Cristobal wrote: I downloaded it this time with no issues. The one bug I was glad to see
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
Eric, Do you have your synth speed set to very fast, or quite slow, I believe the default is about 30% or perhaps 40% but not faster. I keep mine around 50% but never higher. I also clear the switcher daily and restart. in your posting you give no reference to if you clear the switcher and restart your iOS device daily. do you do both of these things and what rate do you have VO set to? Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 8 May 2012, at 11:48, Eric SS wrote: I am amazed and confounded that so many who have been here for so long and speak as though they have such great knowledge act as though this is an unheard of experience that is brand new and only happening with a very few. This has been going on since IOS5. I know I have discussed it at length and probably too much. Apple has never acknowledged the issue, although they did once ask for clarification of what situations caused it. Trust me, I am a very heavy user and fairly knowledgeable and the issue is real and is not limited just to a few new occurrences on this list. I have tested it under all situations I can come up with on a 4S and old ITouch, with both quality voices and even alternate accents. I have restored both devices on several occasions; complete restores and not merely from backup. I have methodically added applications to the devices to find if maybe one is causing the problem. None of these has revealed anything but randomness. The only thing I can see that is more apt to trigger a lockup is quickly scanning elements. I have found if I stop speech or wait until it has finished speaking, I can reduce the occurrences, but even this does not eliminate them. Recovery seems an inexact science, as well. Eighty seconds seems to be the magic time to allow it to right itself, but I count to 40 and then touch the screen to prevent it going dem or to sleep, and then wait another 40 counts. It may not be exactly 80 seconds, but a count of 80 seems to be about right. Otherwise, you can restart the phone with multiple presses of the power button, but that will start you back at the home screen. I read a lot in Safari, and it is maddening to have to find your place in the middle of the New York Times once or twice per issue. Hence, nursing the device to recover on its own is best. I have had this locking up in nearly every application from those I have purchased to native apps. Again, it seems to be most consistent when skimming from element to element. They do not have to be paragraph length clips, but may be dates in the calendar app. I have presented all of this to Apple on many occasions and have begged their assistance or at least some acknowledgement of the issue. As I said, beyond requesting more information one time, I have never even been given so much as a thank you for your inquiry. The only reasons I can think some don't seem to be having this issue ever is like they used to say with Windows: If you have not crashed, you are not using your computer enough. Well, there could be some Fan Children refusal to believe anything could ever be amiss with one of the annointed's blessings, too,. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 5:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out Um, what speech locking up are you talking about? I don't have that issue. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:15 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out It doesn't really sound like this release addressed much. I would not be surprised if there are few or no fixes for anything accessibility. They may have made a quick fix for the app launching on unlock since people made such a huge deal out of that small avoidable not really a problem issue, but I wish they would fix the speech locking up over that one. It is really strange though that they put out this release to fix what appear to be such minor issues and they let huge issues hang out there for 6 or 9 months until some planned release and at least claim to have addressed them. Purely speculation here of course on all of this, but I am betting there was some change in this release that Apple has some motivation to make and it is not written anywhere. Something like a jailbreak whole patched or something. On 5/7/12, Veronica Elsea veron...@laurelcreekmusic.com wrote: Anyone know if 5.1.1 addresses the blue tooth issue that prevented the Braille Sense OnHand from working properly with the phone? Thanks. Veronica At 01:07 PM 5/7/2012, you wrote:
Re: UBER.com -- The Car Service App
I have it but haven't used it yet. I do know someone in Boston who uses it alot so its at least accessible enough for a blind person to get a cab and get from point a to point b. Don On 5/7/2012 12:16 PM, Eric SS wrote: This is available in only a few cities so far, but wondering if anyone has tried the app and found it accessible. I will be in San Francisco in a couple of weeks and thought about setting up an account. What makes me question access is they say you see a map showing where available cars are. Just for interest, it is a kind of taxi service, but linked to private car services. Thanks! Eric -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
How do you lear the switcher? I just turn mine off daily. On 8 May 2012, at 11:53 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav for...@talknav.com wrote: Eric, Do you have your synth speed set to very fast, or quite slow, I believe the default is about 30% or perhaps 40% but not faster. I keep mine around 50% but never higher. I also clear the switcher daily and restart. in your posting you give no reference to if you clear the switcher and restart your iOS device daily. do you do both of these things and what rate do you have VO set to? Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 8 May 2012, at 11:48, Eric SS wrote: I am amazed and confounded that so many who have been here for so long and speak as though they have such great knowledge act as though this is an unheard of experience that is brand new and only happening with a very few. This has been going on since IOS5. I know I have discussed it at length and probably too much. Apple has never acknowledged the issue, although they did once ask for clarification of what situations caused it. Trust me, I am a very heavy user and fairly knowledgeable and the issue is real and is not limited just to a few new occurrences on this list. I have tested it under all situations I can come up with on a 4S and old ITouch, with both quality voices and even alternate accents. I have restored both devices on several occasions; complete restores and not merely from backup. I have methodically added applications to the devices to find if maybe one is causing the problem. None of these has revealed anything but randomness. The only thing I can see that is more apt to trigger a lockup is quickly scanning elements. I have found if I stop speech or wait until it has finished speaking, I can reduce the occurrences, but even this does not eliminate them. Recovery seems an inexact science, as well. Eighty seconds seems to be the magic time to allow it to right itself, but I count to 40 and then touch the screen to prevent it going dem or to sleep, and then wait another 40 counts. It may not be exactly 80 seconds, but a count of 80 seems to be about right. Otherwise, you can restart the phone with multiple presses of the power button, but that will start you back at the home screen. I read a lot in Safari, and it is maddening to have to find your place in the middle of the New York Times once or twice per issue. Hence, nursing the device to recover on its own is best. I have had this locking up in nearly every application from those I have purchased to native apps. Again, it seems to be most consistent when skimming from element to element. They do not have to be paragraph length clips, but may be dates in the calendar app. I have presented all of this to Apple on many occasions and have begged their assistance or at least some acknowledgement of the issue. As I said, beyond requesting more information one time, I have never even been given so much as a thank you for your inquiry. The only reasons I can think some don't seem to be having this issue ever is like they used to say with Windows: If you have not crashed, you are not using your computer enough. Well, there could be some Fan Children refusal to believe anything could ever be amiss with one of the annointed's blessings, too,. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 5:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out Um, what speech locking up are you talking about? I don't have that issue. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:15 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out It doesn't really sound like this release addressed much. I would not be surprised if there are few or no fixes for anything accessibility. They may have made a quick fix for the app launching on unlock since people made such a huge deal out of that small avoidable not really a problem issue, but I wish they would fix the speech locking up over that one. It is really strange though that they put out this release to fix what appear to be such minor issues and they let huge issues hang out there for 6 or 9 months until some planned release and at least claim to have addressed them. Purely speculation here of course on all of this, but I am betting there was some change in this release that Apple has some motivation to make and it is not written anywhere. Something like a jailbreak whole patched or something.
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
I looked through the Users Guide and could not locate a section on new features for the latest upgrade. Specifically, I thought I read there was a way to lock the phone with a new shortcut? Anybody know anything about this? Thanks. Les On May 8, 2012, at 7:17 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: How do you lear the switcher? I just turn mine off daily. On 8 May 2012, at 11:53 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav for...@talknav.com wrote: Eric, Do you have your synth speed set to very fast, or quite slow, I believe the default is about 30% or perhaps 40% but not faster. I keep mine around 50% but never higher. I also clear the switcher daily and restart. in your posting you give no reference to if you clear the switcher and restart your iOS device daily. do you do both of these things and what rate do you have VO set to? Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 8 May 2012, at 11:48, Eric SS wrote: I am amazed and confounded that so many who have been here for so long and speak as though they have such great knowledge act as though this is an unheard of experience that is brand new and only happening with a very few. This has been going on since IOS5. I know I have discussed it at length and probably too much. Apple has never acknowledged the issue, although they did once ask for clarification of what situations caused it. Trust me, I am a very heavy user and fairly knowledgeable and the issue is real and is not limited just to a few new occurrences on this list. I have tested it under all situations I can come up with on a 4S and old ITouch, with both quality voices and even alternate accents. I have restored both devices on several occasions; complete restores and not merely from backup. I have methodically added applications to the devices to find if maybe one is causing the problem. None of these has revealed anything but randomness. The only thing I can see that is more apt to trigger a lockup is quickly scanning elements. I have found if I stop speech or wait until it has finished speaking, I can reduce the occurrences, but even this does not eliminate them. Recovery seems an inexact science, as well. Eighty seconds seems to be the magic time to allow it to right itself, but I count to 40 and then touch the screen to prevent it going dem or to sleep, and then wait another 40 counts. It may not be exactly 80 seconds, but a count of 80 seems to be about right. Otherwise, you can restart the phone with multiple presses of the power button, but that will start you back at the home screen. I read a lot in Safari, and it is maddening to have to find your place in the middle of the New York Times once or twice per issue. Hence, nursing the device to recover on its own is best. I have had this locking up in nearly every application from those I have purchased to native apps. Again, it seems to be most consistent when skimming from element to element. They do not have to be paragraph length clips, but may be dates in the calendar app. I have presented all of this to Apple on many occasions and have begged their assistance or at least some acknowledgement of the issue. As I said, beyond requesting more information one time, I have never even been given so much as a thank you for your inquiry. The only reasons I can think some don't seem to be having this issue ever is like they used to say with Windows: If you have not crashed, you are not using your computer enough. Well, there could be some Fan Children refusal to believe anything could ever be amiss with one of the annointed's blessings, too,. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 5:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out Um, what speech locking up are you talking about? I don't have that issue. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:15 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out It doesn't really sound like this release addressed much. I would not be surprised if there are few or no fixes for anything accessibility. They may have made a quick fix for the app launching on unlock since people made such a huge deal out of that small avoidable not really a problem issue, but I wish they would fix the speech locking up over that one. It is really strange though that they put out this release to fix what appear to be such minor issues and they let huge issues hang out there for 6 or 9 months until
Re: Mark On iPhone On Trekker Breeze
Hi Mark and others. I really don't understand one thing in this whole discussion of what gps system to use. I don't like the blind specific solutions from Sendero and others. From what i have heard, the maps very seldom if ever get updated, which means that how ever good the gps is at various anouncements, the maps we follow will be obsolete, so the pois wi want simply won't be there. Another thing is that a mainstream off-the-shelf gps app could easily be modified so that it speaks whatever you desire it to speak. I say easily, thereby taking a risk since i don't know anything about programming, but remember that the blind specific gps-es sends their info to the speech synth/screen reader rather than talks via a recorded voice, am i right? If so there are means for an app such as Navigon to send the things we want it to send, such as street names and such to the screen reader, in this case VoiceOver. We have seen this done before, in games like Kings corner, chat apps like IM plus and gps apps like Ariadne, so Navigon, Tomtom and others should be able to do this, if someone with much, much better programming knowledge than me could describe the solution to the developers of said apps. If they then will listen, that's a totally different story but it could be done. Am i totally wrong in this? /Krister 8 maj 2012 kl. 12:40 skrev Les Kriegler: Hi Mark, I really enjoyed reading your most informative post. I also purchased the Trekker Breeze at the end of last year. I did so because I wanted an more comprehensive way of accessing walking routes. I do like street names announced, and I have not been able to get that reliably from the commercially available apps. If a company like Sendero comes out with an app comparable to Mobile Geo, I'll probably obtain it, but for now, the Breeze is a really good option and I've made good use of it. Also, even though we have GPS in our vehicle, my wife actually prefers all of the information the Breeze provides when we are on route. Les On May 7, 2012, at 7:30 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Everyone, In 2005 I purchased my first GPS solution; it was the Trekker/Maestro Del 51 PDA from HumanWare. If memory serves, among other difficulties, the PDA did not have an Off button. When not in use, it had to be plugged into a charger to prevent power loss. Be that as it may, it was the most amazing piece of technology I had experienced. Back in those days, I was using a Motorola TimePort which was an upgrade to the Star Trek Motorola phone. Of course, these phones had virtually no accessibility but, still they were usable. Sometime in 2007/2008 I switched to my first Windows Mobile phone. That was to be the beginning of a lot of changes in my life not the least of which was my subsequent association with Code Factory. Enter Mobile Geo; this onboard GPS software solution put the power of true independent GPS navigation for the blind and low vision on a cell phone. So, I put away my then outdated Trekker/Maestro PDA. Then, of course, came yet another game changer; the iPhone. For whatever reason I thought that either Code Factory's Mobile Geo or Humanware's Trekker would find its way to iOS. This, obviously, did not happen. As a result, since iPhone 3GS, I have purchased virtually every iOS GPS navigation software app in hopes of bringing the power of Geo or Trekker to a single mobile device. I shutter to think of all the money I have spent on this endeavor (smile). As far as off-the-shelf iOS GPS navigation solutions are concerned, I hold that A T T Wireless Navigator is the most accurate and easy-to-use app on the market. Recently, they added the ability to download the maps to your phone so you can now travel without benefit of a active satellite connection. I believe that the monthly cost for Navigator is $9.95. As wonderful as Navigator is, it falls short of meeting the one criteria I demand in order to recommend it, or any GPS app for that matter, as a solution for true independent navigation by the blind and low vision; said criteria being the ability to have streets, cross-streets, etc automatically announced without engaging any kind of route function or without having to touch, shake, or otherwise interact with the hardware device, itself. Until this past Thursday, my solution, when traveling independently, was to fire up my old beloved Samsung Epix, running Windows 6.1, and launching Geo. I could go on and on about how much of a pain this was given that I can hardly remember any of the Mobile Speak commands as I just don't use my beloved Samsung Epix anymore but I will spare you the gory details. Add to this the fact that I also had to fire up my GPS receiver and connect a special headset adaptor as the Epix does not have a standard headset jack, as many of the models in that era did not. ON Friday, I received my new Trekker Breeze from Humanware;
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
Hi Neil. I keep my speech rate at 65% most often, but I will very that from 60 to 75%. Anything slower seems torturous. I do go into the application switcher and clear it before I am going to do a lot of reading. That has not seemed to make a difference, however. The one area I am lax is I do not restart my phone every day, not even every several days. But, I have not found that that will make a difference. I hope it does not sound as though I am rejecting all alternatives. I have just tried so many, and none of them have been successful. It is most maddening because the problem is intermittent. All thanks! E Telephone: (614) 522-9725 Skype: sseric57 On May 8, 2012, at 6:53 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav for...@talknav.com wrote: Eric, Do you have your synth speed set to very fast, or quite slow, I believe the default is about 30% or perhaps 40% but not faster. I keep mine around 50% but never higher. I also clear the switcher daily and restart. in your posting you give no reference to if you clear the switcher and restart your iOS device daily. do you do both of these things and what rate do you have VO set to? Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 8 May 2012, at 11:48, Eric SS wrote: I am amazed and confounded that so many who have been here for so long and speak as though they have such great knowledge act as though this is an unheard of experience that is brand new and only happening with a very few. This has been going on since IOS5. I know I have discussed it at length and probably too much. Apple has never acknowledged the issue, although they did once ask for clarification of what situations caused it. Trust me, I am a very heavy user and fairly knowledgeable and the issue is real and is not limited just to a few new occurrences on this list. I have tested it under all situations I can come up with on a 4S and old ITouch, with both quality voices and even alternate accents. I have restored both devices on several occasions; complete restores and not merely from backup. I have methodically added applications to the devices to find if maybe one is causing the problem. None of these has revealed anything but randomness. The only thing I can see that is more apt to trigger a lockup is quickly scanning elements. I have found if I stop speech or wait until it has finished speaking, I can reduce the occurrences, but even this does not eliminate them. Recovery seems an inexact science, as well. Eighty seconds seems to be the magic time to allow it to right itself, but I count to 40 and then touch the screen to prevent it going dem or to sleep, and then wait another 40 counts. It may not be exactly 80 seconds, but a count of 80 seems to be about right. Otherwise, you can restart the phone with multiple presses of the power button, but that will start you back at the home screen. I read a lot in Safari, and it is maddening to have to find your place in the middle of the New York Times once or twice per issue. Hence, nursing the device to recover on its own is best. I have had this locking up in nearly every application from those I have purchased to native apps. Again, it seems to be most consistent when skimming from element to element. They do not have to be paragraph length clips, but may be dates in the calendar app. I have presented all of this to Apple on many occasions and have begged their assistance or at least some acknowledgement of the issue. As I said, beyond requesting more information one time, I have never even been given so much as a thank you for your inquiry. The only reasons I can think some don't seem to be having this issue ever is like they used to say with Windows: If you have not crashed, you are not using your computer enough. Well, there could be some Fan Children refusal to believe anything could ever be amiss with one of the annointed's blessings, too,. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 5:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out Um, what speech locking up are you talking about? I don't have that issue. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:15 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out It doesn't really sound like this release addressed much. I would not be surprised if there are few or no fixes for anything accessibility. They may have made a quick fix for the app launching on unlock since people made such a huge deal out of that small avoidable not really a problem issue, but I wish they would fix
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
Hello, It definitely happens, and really looks like memory buffer overflow issues. VO remains running, but the voice disappears. If you have a braille display connected, you will find that the braille display continues running. My guess is that the problem is related to the HQ voices. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 08/05/2012, at 22:48, Eric SS sseri...@gmail.com wrote: I am amazed and confounded that so many who have been here for so long and speak as though they have such great knowledge act as though this is an unheard of experience that is brand new and only happening with a very few. This has been going on since IOS5. I know I have discussed it at length and probably too much. Apple has never acknowledged the issue, although they did once ask for clarification of what situations caused it. Trust me, I am a very heavy user and fairly knowledgeable and the issue is real and is not limited just to a few new occurrences on this list. I have tested it under all situations I can come up with on a 4S and old ITouch, with both quality voices and even alternate accents. I have restored both devices on several occasions; complete restores and not merely from backup. I have methodically added applications to the devices to find if maybe one is causing the problem. None of these has revealed anything but randomness. The only thing I can see that is more apt to trigger a lockup is quickly scanning elements. I have found if I stop speech or wait until it has finished speaking, I can reduce the occurrences, but even this does not eliminate them. Recovery seems an inexact science, as well. Eighty seconds seems to be the magic time to allow it to right itself, but I count to 40 and then touch the screen to prevent it going dem or to sleep, and then wait another 40 counts. It may not be exactly 80 seconds, but a count of 80 seems to be about right. Otherwise, you can restart the phone with multiple presses of the power button, but that will start you back at the home screen. I read a lot in Safari, and it is maddening to have to find your place in the middle of the New York Times once or twice per issue. Hence, nursing the device to recover on its own is best. I have had this locking up in nearly every application from those I have purchased to native apps. Again, it seems to be most consistent when skimming from element to element. They do not have to be paragraph length clips, but may be dates in the calendar app. I have presented all of this to Apple on many occasions and have begged their assistance or at least some acknowledgement of the issue. As I said, beyond requesting more information one time, I have never even been given so much as a thank you for your inquiry. The only reasons I can think some don't seem to be having this issue ever is like they used to say with Windows: If you have not crashed, you are not using your computer enough. Well, there could be some Fan Children refusal to believe anything could ever be amiss with one of the annointed's blessings, too,. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 5:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out Um, what speech locking up are you talking about? I don't have that issue. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:15 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out It doesn't really sound like this release addressed much. I would not be surprised if there are few or no fixes for anything accessibility. They may have made a quick fix for the app launching on unlock since people made such a huge deal out of that small avoidable not really a problem issue, but I wish they would fix the speech locking up over that one. It is really strange though that they put out this release to fix what appear to be such minor issues and they let huge issues hang out there for 6 or 9 months until some planned release and at least claim to have addressed them. Purely speculation here of course on all of this, but I am betting there was some change in this release that Apple has some motivation to make and it is not written anywhere. Something like a jailbreak whole patched or something. On 5/7/12, Veronica Elsea veron...@laurelcreekmusic.com wrote: Anyone know if 5.1.1 addresses the blue tooth issue that prevented the Braille Sense OnHand from working properly with the phone? Thanks. Veronica At 01:07 PM 5/7/2012, you wrote: Another issue not addressed, apparently, is in the calendar. When you select all day as an option, it Kicks you completely out of the calendar still. It does not give me hope that they have addressed the speech locking up
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
Hello, And, the intermittent problems are always the most difficult to debug. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 08/05/2012, at 23:36, Eric SS sseri...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Neil. I keep my speech rate at 65% most often, but I will very that from 60 to 75%. Anything slower seems torturous. I do go into the application switcher and clear it before I am going to do a lot of reading. That has not seemed to make a difference, however. The one area I am lax is I do not restart my phone every day, not even every several days. But, I have not found that that will make a difference. I hope it does not sound as though I am rejecting all alternatives. I have just tried so many, and none of them have been successful. It is most maddening because the problem is intermittent. All thanks! E Telephone: (614) 522-9725 Skype: sseric57 On May 8, 2012, at 6:53 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav for...@talknav.com wrote: Eric, Do you have your synth speed set to very fast, or quite slow, I believe the default is about 30% or perhaps 40% but not faster. I keep mine around 50% but never higher. I also clear the switcher daily and restart. in your posting you give no reference to if you clear the switcher and restart your iOS device daily. do you do both of these things and what rate do you have VO set to? Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 8 May 2012, at 11:48, Eric SS wrote: I am amazed and confounded that so many who have been here for so long and speak as though they have such great knowledge act as though this is an unheard of experience that is brand new and only happening with a very few. This has been going on since IOS5. I know I have discussed it at length and probably too much. Apple has never acknowledged the issue, although they did once ask for clarification of what situations caused it. Trust me, I am a very heavy user and fairly knowledgeable and the issue is real and is not limited just to a few new occurrences on this list. I have tested it under all situations I can come up with on a 4S and old ITouch, with both quality voices and even alternate accents. I have restored both devices on several occasions; complete restores and not merely from backup. I have methodically added applications to the devices to find if maybe one is causing the problem. None of these has revealed anything but randomness. The only thing I can see that is more apt to trigger a lockup is quickly scanning elements. I have found if I stop speech or wait until it has finished speaking, I can reduce the occurrences, but even this does not eliminate them. Recovery seems an inexact science, as well. Eighty seconds seems to be the magic time to allow it to right itself, but I count to 40 and then touch the screen to prevent it going dem or to sleep, and then wait another 40 counts. It may not be exactly 80 seconds, but a count of 80 seems to be about right. Otherwise, you can restart the phone with multiple presses of the power button, but that will start you back at the home screen. I read a lot in Safari, and it is maddening to have to find your place in the middle of the New York Times once or twice per issue. Hence, nursing the device to recover on its own is best. I have had this locking up in nearly every application from those I have purchased to native apps. Again, it seems to be most consistent when skimming from element to element. They do not have to be paragraph length clips, but may be dates in the calendar app. I have presented all of this to Apple on many occasions and have begged their assistance or at least some acknowledgement of the issue. As I said, beyond requesting more information one time, I have never even been given so much as a thank you for your inquiry. The only reasons I can think some don't seem to be having this issue ever is like they used to say with Windows: If you have not crashed, you are not using your computer enough. Well, there could be some Fan Children refusal to believe anything could ever be amiss with one of the annointed's blessings, too,. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 5:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out Um, what speech locking up are you talking about? I don't have that issue. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:15 PM To:
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
It is a bug which I also noticed on my iPad 2, iPhone 4 and iPhone 3GS especially on browser-like apps. I started seeing it in IOS 5.0.1. If you never encountered this, luck you but I think this bug needs fixing. Sent from my iPad On 08 May,2012, at 1:34 AM, Cristobal crismuno...@gmail.com wrote: Pretty much everywhere. From swiping in a particular app or on one of the homepages going from app to app or just tracing a finger around the screen. It might not happen for a long time and it'll happen a couple of times within a five minute span. There's really no rime or reason to it. I know it's not something exclusive to my device as it'll occur on my iPad as well and others have commented on this same exact behavior on this list. It's been present in iOS 5.0.1 and the subsequent updates since then. I can't speak to earlier versions as my first phone was the 4S running the 5.0.1 OS. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:25 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Danielle, WHen swiping through something, is that something within a specific app? I am using a 4S and I am not encountering this issue. There could be an app causing the problem as well. Interesting issue. On May 7, 2012, at 7:01 PM, Danielle McCullough wrote: No, it is a bug, it happens to me all the time. It will especially happen if you are swiping through something very quickly. It's like it goes in to overload. Danielle - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 10:40 PM Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out This is not an issue I have encountered. Have you determined a pattern? For example, have you found this issue occurs when using a certain app? Have you tried (yes I know it's painful) reinstalling from scratch? Sometimes something does become corrupted or some software conflict has occurred that only seems to be resolved when starting from a complete restore back to factory settings. On May 7, 2012, at 5:37 PM, Cristobal wrote: The speech locking up where Voiceover will just go silent for sixty to ninety seconds at a time for no reason or solution other than either restarting the phone or waiting out the sixty or ninety seconds for Voiceover to come back. For all the great accessibility Apple's done with the phone, this is a major bug one would figure would be addressed by now in some fashion. Then again, who knows, maybe it's just not that easy to fix. I recently got an iPad 2 and for the first week or so, I hadn't experienced that issue and started getting all jazzed that maybe it was just an iPhone thing, but of course, reality had to step in and and yesterday, I experienced the Voiceover going silent bug twice in about an hour's time. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 2:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out Um, what speech locking up are you talking about? I don't have that issue. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:15 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out It doesn't really sound like this release addressed much. I would not be surprised if there are few or no fixes for anything accessibility. They may have made a quick fix for the app launching on unlock since people made such a huge deal out of that small avoidable not really a problem issue, but I wish they would fix the speech locking up over that one. It is really strange though that they put out this release to fix what appear to be such minor issues and they let huge issues hang out there for 6 or 9 months until some planned release and at least claim to have addressed them. Purely speculation here of course on all of this, but I am betting there was some change in this release that Apple has some motivation to make and it is not written anywhere. Something like a jailbreak whole patched or something. On 5/7/12, Veronica Elsea veron...@laurelcreekmusic.com wrote: Anyone know if 5.1.1 addresses the blue tooth issue that prevented the Braille Sense OnHand from working properly with the phone? Thanks. Veronica At 01:07 PM 5/7/2012, you wrote: Another issue not addressed, apparently, is in the calendar. When you select all day as an option, it Kicks you completely out of the calendar still. It does not give me hope that they have addressed the speech locking up issue, either. We can only hope! Telephone: (614) 522-9725 Skype: sseric57 On May 7, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: Well
Re: Mark On iPhone On Trekker Breeze
Hi Krister, I'm sure what you're thinking is possible, if enough people suggested it, if the developers developed it, if if if ... It's people like yourself who see what could be that make the future better and far be it for me to discourage you, but for someone who needs the functionality now, they need it now. I know the breeze has supposedly come a long way since the early days, though I don't see how it could possibly be as good as mobile geo was in it's hayday. Personally, I can't wait to see what sendero comes up with for the IPhone, but my clients really and truly can't wait. Best, Erik Burggraaf Introducing Ebony Consulting business card transcription service, starting at $0.45 per card or $35 per hundred cards. Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2012-05-08, at 7:25 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hi Mark and others. I really don't understand one thing in this whole discussion of what gps system to use. I don't like the blind specific solutions from Sendero and others. From what i have heard, the maps very seldom if ever get updated, which means that how ever good the gps is at various anouncements, the maps we follow will be obsolete, so the pois wi want simply won't be there. Another thing is that a mainstream off-the-shelf gps app could easily be modified so that it speaks whatever you desire it to speak. I say easily, thereby taking a risk since i don't know anything about programming, but remember that the blind specific gps-es sends their info to the speech synth/screen reader rather than talks via a recorded voice, am i right? If so there are means for an app such as Navigon to send the things we want it to send, such as street names and such to the screen reader, in this case VoiceOver. We have seen this done before, in games like Kings corner, chat apps like IM plus and gps apps like Ariadne, so Navigon, Tomtom and others should be able to do this, if someone with much, much better programming knowledge than me could describe the solution to the developers of said apps. If they then will listen, that's a totally different story but it could be done. Am i totally wrong in this? /Krister 8 maj 2012 kl. 12:40 skrev Les Kriegler: Hi Mark, I really enjoyed reading your most informative post. I also purchased the Trekker Breeze at the end of last year. I did so because I wanted an more comprehensive way of accessing walking routes. I do like street names announced, and I have not been able to get that reliably from the commercially available apps. If a company like Sendero comes out with an app comparable to Mobile Geo, I'll probably obtain it, but for now, the Breeze is a really good option and I've made good use of it. Also, even though we have GPS in our vehicle, my wife actually prefers all of the information the Breeze provides when we are on route. Les On May 7, 2012, at 7:30 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Everyone, In 2005 I purchased my first GPS solution; it was the Trekker/Maestro Del 51 PDA from HumanWare. If memory serves, among other difficulties, the PDA did not have an Off button. When not in use, it had to be plugged into a charger to prevent power loss. Be that as it may, it was the most amazing piece of technology I had experienced. Back in those days, I was using a Motorola TimePort which was an upgrade to the Star Trek Motorola phone. Of course, these phones had virtually no accessibility but, still they were usable. Sometime in 2007/2008 I switched to my first Windows Mobile phone. That was to be the beginning of a lot of changes in my life not the least of which was my subsequent association with Code Factory. Enter Mobile Geo; this onboard GPS software solution put the power of true independent GPS navigation for the blind and low vision on a cell phone. So, I put away my then outdated Trekker/Maestro PDA. Then, of course, came yet another game changer; the iPhone. For whatever reason I thought that either Code Factory's Mobile Geo or Humanware's Trekker would find its way to iOS. This, obviously, did not happen. As a result, since iPhone 3GS, I have purchased virtually every iOS GPS navigation software app in hopes of bringing the power of Geo or Trekker to a single mobile device. I shutter to think of all the money I have spent on this endeavor (smile). As far as off-the-shelf iOS GPS navigation solutions are concerned, I hold that A T T Wireless Navigator is the most accurate and easy-to-use app on the market. Recently, they added the ability to download the maps to your phone so you can now travel without benefit of a active satellite connection. I believe that the monthly cost for Navigator is $9.95. As wonderful as Navigator is, it falls short of meeting the one criteria I demand in order to recommend it, or any GPS app for that matter, as a solution for true
finding bar codes
Hi All, I was told by a nother instructor that on cans the bar code is just to the right of the seem at the very bottom. If you are searching for a bar code on a box, it is usually on the end you don't open. On a package, it is usually right below the seal that you pull or tear p to open it. However, I am still having problems finding the bar code using digit eyes with this information. I would love someone to share their positive experiences and how it did work with them. Have a great day and Bod bless. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
Eric, I never said it was new, just irritating. Neil, I'm too impatient not to use it under a hundred percent. Strangely, I never experienced this before the 5.01 update. Funny how some people have it and some don't. Danielle - Original Message - From: Neil Barnfather - TalkNav for...@talknav.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 11:53 AM Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Eric, Do you have your synth speed set to very fast, or quite slow, I believe the default is about 30% or perhaps 40% but not faster. I keep mine around 50% but never higher. I also clear the switcher daily and restart. in your posting you give no reference to if you clear the switcher and restart your iOS device daily. do you do both of these things and what rate do you have VO set to? Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 8 May 2012, at 11:48, Eric SS wrote: I am amazed and confounded that so many who have been here for so long and speak as though they have such great knowledge act as though this is an unheard of experience that is brand new and only happening with a very few. This has been going on since IOS5. I know I have discussed it at length and probably too much. Apple has never acknowledged the issue, although they did once ask for clarification of what situations caused it. Trust me, I am a very heavy user and fairly knowledgeable and the issue is real and is not limited just to a few new occurrences on this list. I have tested it under all situations I can come up with on a 4S and old ITouch, with both quality voices and even alternate accents. I have restored both devices on several occasions; complete restores and not merely from backup. I have methodically added applications to the devices to find if maybe one is causing the problem. None of these has revealed anything but randomness. The only thing I can see that is more apt to trigger a lockup is quickly scanning elements. I have found if I stop speech or wait until it has finished speaking, I can reduce the occurrences, but even this does not eliminate them. Recovery seems an inexact science, as well. Eighty seconds seems to be the magic time to allow it to right itself, but I count to 40 and then touch the screen to prevent it going dem or to sleep, and then wait another 40 counts. It may not be exactly 80 seconds, but a count of 80 seems to be about right. Otherwise, you can restart the phone with multiple presses of the power button, but that will start you back at the home screen. I read a lot in Safari, and it is maddening to have to find your place in the middle of the New York Times once or twice per issue. Hence, nursing the device to recover on its own is best. I have had this locking up in nearly every application from those I have purchased to native apps. Again, it seems to be most consistent when skimming from element to element. They do not have to be paragraph length clips, but may be dates in the calendar app. I have presented all of this to Apple on many occasions and have begged their assistance or at least some acknowledgement of the issue. As I said, beyond requesting more information one time, I have never even been given so much as a thank you for your inquiry. The only reasons I can think some don't seem to be having this issue ever is like they used to say with Windows: If you have not crashed, you are not using your computer enough. Well, there could be some Fan Children refusal to believe anything could ever be amiss with one of the annointed's blessings, too,. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 5:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out Um, what speech locking up are you talking about? I don't have that issue. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:15 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out It doesn't really sound like this release addressed much. I would not be surprised if there are few or no fixes for anything accessibility. They may have made a quick fix for the app launching on unlock since people made such a huge deal out of that small avoidable not really a problem issue, but I wish they would fix the speech locking up over that one. It is really strange though that they put out this release to fix what appear to be such minor issues and they let huge issues hang out there for 6 or 9 months until some planned release and at least claim to have addressed them. Purely speculation here of course on all of this, but
Re: Possible game for us?
Description: HEADPHONES REQUIRED FOR EARTHS SURVIVAL! As seen in itunes top charts around the world. Bringing a unique audio gameplay experience to the App Store. Listen for the sound of the invisible invaders, steer your ship into their path and unleash some 8 bit fury... Fast paced retro gameplay with an original twist… the invaders are attacking at night and you can't see them, but you can hear them… ♪ Advanced spatial stereo audio ♪ 3d Parallax City Scape ♪ Retro 8 bit Black and white visuals ♪ Unlock a variety of powerful 8 bit weaponry (including a Flame Thrower!!) ♪ 5 original alien craft ♪ GameCentre World Leaderboard ♪ Score multiplier (resets if you miss... greater accuracy builds greater points) ♪ Animated Nuclear Explosions ♪ 2 control setups - touch screen or accelerometer (tilt) ♪ Chip tune sound track ♪ Increased difficulty with each wave of attack ♪ Free future updates based on ideas submitted by users Any constructive feedback via review or email will be taken on board and I'll do my best to implement each idea that will help make this game a future App Store classic… Sounds amazing; is it worth buying? Initial thoughts on accessibility? Cheers, Ben. On 5/8/12, fred olver goodfo...@charter.net wrote: I used the search term audio games yesterday in the Itunes store and found a couple games which one, Audio Invaders which requires ear phones I purchased for $0.99. Then afew minutes later I found Audio Invaders Lite, for free. Needless to say, I did not get that one since I had already made an earlier purchase. However in a few minutes more I found Papa Sangre, chapters 1-4 for free, so I downloaded that one as well. Just thought you'd like to know. Fred Olver http://www.dealingwithvisionloss.com For some of us it's a way of life and for some of us it just makes life easier. Fred Olver -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Mark On iPhone On Trekker Breeze
I purchased a breeze second hand. I really like it, except for the fact that it seems to take forever to obtain satellite service. Steve Original message: Thank you for the very kind and gracious reply, James. I can only speak for the Breeze as it functions today but I can tell you that, as a beta tester for both Geo and the original Trekker, the feature set is virtually identical to Geo and is definitely blind-friendly travel-centric. Having both the user guide and audio tutorial on my iPhone has made learning the Breeze convenient, fast, and fun. Mark -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:58 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mark On iPhone On Trekker Breeze Hi Mark, That is an interesting post and an entertaining read. Thanks for posting it. Personally I only consider the announcing of cross streats to be a nice to have and it would be a really nice to have, but it does not fit in the deal breaker catagory for me and I have been pretty happy with the IOS GPS offerings. Although my only blindness specialty GPS solution that I used at times in 2008 after receiving it was the Sendero ported to the VoiceSense. I kind of lost interest in it as it took so long to process anything and lost signal often with the receiver I had with it and fell behind quickly and never caught up on the Sendero upgrade path. I had always heard that the Breeze didn't really have the feature set for anyone so much of a power user as to have much interest in technology and was very simplified for those that did not want to have to be bothered with the technology. There is a place for that of course. Maybe it has evolved since then and has a nice feature set. All of this is very much up to someone's personal preferences what they want and like and works for them. On 5/7/12, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Hello Everyone, In 2005 I purchased my first GPS solution; it was the Trekker/Maestro Del 51 PDA from HumanWare. If memory serves, among other difficulties, the PDA did not have an Off button. When not in use, it had to be plugged into a charger to prevent power loss. Be that as it may, it was the most amazing piece of technology I had experienced. Back in those days, I was using a Motorola TimePort which was an upgrade to the Star Trek Motorola phone. Of course, these phones had virtually no accessibility but, still they were usable. Sometime in 2007/2008 I switched to my first Windows Mobile phone. That was to be the beginning of a lot of changes in my life not the least of which was my subsequent association with Code Factory. Enter Mobile Geo; this onboard GPS software solution put the power of true independent GPS navigation for the blind and low vision on a cell phone. So, I put away my then outdated Trekker/Maestro PDA. Then, of course, came yet another game changer; the iPhone. For whatever reason I thought that either Code Factory's Mobile Geo or Humanware's Trekker would find its way to iOS. This, obviously, did not happen. As a result, since iPhone 3GS, I have purchased virtually every iOS GPS navigation software app in hopes of bringing the power of Geo or Trekker to a single mobile device. I shutter to think of all the money I have spent on this endeavor (smile). As far as off-the-shelf iOS GPS navigation solutions are concerned, I hold that A T T Wireless Navigator is the most accurate and easy-to-use app on the market. Recently, they added the ability to download the maps to your phone so you can now travel without benefit of a active satellite connection. I believe that the monthly cost for Navigator is $9.95. As wonderful as Navigator is, it falls short of meeting the one criteria I demand in order to recommend it, or any GPS app for that matter, as a solution for true independent navigation by the blind and low vision; said criteria being the ability to have streets, cross-streets, etc automatically announced without engaging any kind of route function or without having to touch, shake, or otherwise interact with the hardware device, itself. Until this past Thursday, my solution, when traveling independently, was to fire up my old beloved Samsung Epix, running Windows 6.1, and launching Geo. I could go on and on about how much of a pain this was given that I can hardly remember any of the Mobile Speak commands as I just don't use my beloved Samsung Epix anymore but I will spare you the gory details. Add to this the fact that I also had to fire up my GPS receiver and connect a special headset adaptor as the Epix does not have a standard headset jack, as many of the models in that era did not. ON Friday, I received my new Trekker Breeze from Humanware; thus, I have come full-circle, as the saying goes. Suffice me to say that the Breeze is every bit as marvelous as the original Trekker and Geo were with the advantage that
Re: How to tell if an app update downloads installs
I use jaws 13 also. What I do is find the volume button by tabbing around, then I tab a couple more times, and it will say downloading one item or two items. Tab again, and I can find out how long it takes to download. After that, I sync it to the phone, and it installs. Hope this helps, Jenn To the world you are someone but to someone you are the world! On May 7, 2012, at 5:58 PM, Don Cher Bosch oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net wrote: I’m unable to tell if a free app update downloads or even if it installs when I sync with JAWS 13. Can’t tell for sure if apps in the list are automatically selected and looking all over the screen with JAWS cursor. Does not help. Obviously I’m doing this on the PC, but it now seems more difficult than previously. Where can I find instructions for JAWS or others which I can follow step by step? I’ve tried the user guide and list archives- but no joy L Cher -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Finding Bar Codes
If you haven't used the tutorials, you should. Most actions take some time to learn. You probably don't remember learning to eat by yourself or to walk because we learn that in infancy, but you probably do remember learning to use a cane. Or if you have a dog, learning to work with the dog. The idea is intuitive, but the actual daily use takes some practice. As a short tip, a camera is not a laser. The optics are different. Using a laser, you scan horizontally, using a camera, you scan vertically. The practical effect of this is that you do not want to keep moving the camera across because it won't have time for its autofocus to work. Holding the camera still and moving vertically is much more likely to make the camera. This is explained in the tutorial and you are given a chance to practice on a well defined and known sample. You will find that after you do the tutorials, scanning is much easier. If you have not previously used a scanning system, you will find it very useful to read the tutorial on where to find barcodes. Other people here can probably offer tips as well. But staring with the tutorials is a good one! On Tuesday, May 8, 2012 4:48:53 AM UTC-5, Kawal wrote: Hello Nancy. I too am having problems finding the Bar codes after having a demonstration from someone on Skype. I haven't gone through the tutorials yet but would think it was easy to do? aI am totally blind and have no eyes to help me. I just keep pointing the back of my I phone 4S pointing at the package or box and just keep moving it across but nothing! Kawal. On 7 May 2012, at 05:25 PM, Eric SS sseri...@gmail.com wrote: Nancy, I purchased D-E last night. Playing around with it, I tried a bottle of aspirin. I could not find a code on the bottle. I just wonder, since these products generally come packaged inside a box, are there bar codes on the bottle, too? I have not yet had anyone look at the bottle to see if one is there or not. I did try a food can and eventually found the code on it, scanning in the same place and same lighting, but it could not identify the product. I have not yet read all of the training material, but it seemed kind of odd I would have anything in my pantry not fairly commonly available all around the country, unless maybe private store brand items are not as much available in the database? I am looking forward to learning and using this. All thanks! Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Possible game for us?
I tried playing this game, thus far it is not accessible. I tried with voice-over both on and off. Fred - Original Message - From: Ben Mustill-Rose b...@benmr.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 7:43 AM Subject: Re: Possible game for us? Description: HEADPHONES REQUIRED FOR EARTHS SURVIVAL! As seen in itunes top charts around the world. Bringing a unique audio gameplay experience to the App Store. Listen for the sound of the invisible invaders, steer your ship into their path and unleash some 8 bit fury... Fast paced retro gameplay with an original twist. the invaders are attacking at night and you can't see them, but you can hear them. ? Advanced spatial stereo audio ? 3d Parallax City Scape ? Retro 8 bit Black and white visuals ? Unlock a variety of powerful 8 bit weaponry (including a Flame Thrower!!) ? 5 original alien craft ? GameCentre World Leaderboard ? Score multiplier (resets if you miss... greater accuracy builds greater points) ? Animated Nuclear Explosions ? 2 control setups - touch screen or accelerometer (tilt) ? Chip tune sound track ? Increased difficulty with each wave of attack ? Free future updates based on ideas submitted by users Any constructive feedback via review or email will be taken on board and I'll do my best to implement each idea that will help make this game a future App Store classic. Sounds amazing; is it worth buying? Initial thoughts on accessibility? Cheers, Ben. On 5/8/12, fred olver goodfo...@charter.net wrote: I used the search term audio games yesterday in the Itunes store and found a couple games which one, Audio Invaders which requires ear phones I purchased for $0.99. Then afew minutes later I found Audio Invaders Lite, for free. Needless to say, I did not get that one since I had already made an earlier purchase. However in a few minutes more I found Papa Sangre, chapters 1-4 for free, so I downloaded that one as well. Just thought you'd like to know. Fred Olver http://www.dealingwithvisionloss.com For some of us it's a way of life and for some of us it just makes life easier. Fred Olver -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: How to tell if an app update downloads installs
I personally find it much easier to install apps via the phone. If you decide to give it a go, come back if you're not sure what to do. -- Carol P Original Message From: Don Cher Bosch To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 12:58 AM Subject: How to tell if an app update downloads installs I'm unable to tell if a free app update downloads or even if it installs when I sync with JAWS 13. Can't tell for sure if apps in the list are automatically selected and looking all over the screen with JAWS cursor. Does not help. Obviously I'm doing this on the PC, but it now seems more difficult than previously. Where can I find instructions for JAWS or others which I can follow step by step? I've tried the user guide and list archives- but no joy L Cher -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
Danielle, It would be my strong guess that it is a mixed issue primarily relating to screen reader synth speed, available processor at the time, RAM, apps running at the time etc. one thing to try, and I appreciate that you'll not want to do this for long, but, humour me, try for 48 hours doing the below and seeing if the issue resolves. A: speech rate no more than 60%, clear your app switcher twice daily, with one of these clearings occurring in the evening, immediately followed by a power cycle. It is my belief that the issue will go away, I'd be interested to see. if it does, keep clearing the apps, and power cycling once a day after one of the app switcher clear outs, and slowly increase the speech rate, and I mean slowly, say 65% and upwards in 5% increments. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 8 May 2012, at 13:24, Danielle McCullough wrote: Eric, I never said it was new, just irritating. Neil, I'm too impatient not to use it under a hundred percent. Strangely, I never experienced this before the 5.01 update. Funny how some people have it and some don't. Danielle - Original Message - From: Neil Barnfather - TalkNav for...@talknav.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 11:53 AM Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Eric, Do you have your synth speed set to very fast, or quite slow, I believe the default is about 30% or perhaps 40% but not faster. I keep mine around 50% but never higher. I also clear the switcher daily and restart. in your posting you give no reference to if you clear the switcher and restart your iOS device daily. do you do both of these things and what rate do you have VO set to? Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 8 May 2012, at 11:48, Eric SS wrote: I am amazed and confounded that so many who have been here for so long and speak as though they have such great knowledge act as though this is an unheard of experience that is brand new and only happening with a very few. This has been going on since IOS5. I know I have discussed it at length and probably too much. Apple has never acknowledged the issue, although they did once ask for clarification of what situations caused it. Trust me, I am a very heavy user and fairly knowledgeable and the issue is real and is not limited just to a few new occurrences on this list. I have tested it under all situations I can come up with on a 4S and old ITouch, with both quality voices and even alternate accents. I have restored both devices on several occasions; complete restores and not merely from backup. I have methodically added applications to the devices to find if maybe one is causing the problem. None of these has revealed anything but randomness. The only thing I can see that is more apt to trigger a lockup is quickly scanning elements. I have found if I stop speech or wait until it has finished speaking, I can reduce the occurrences, but even this does not eliminate them. Recovery seems an inexact science, as well. Eighty seconds seems to be the magic time to allow it to right itself, but I count to 40 and then touch the screen to prevent it going dem or to sleep, and then wait another 40 counts. It may not be exactly 80 seconds, but a count of 80 seems to be about right. Otherwise, you can restart the phone with multiple presses of the power button, but that will start you back at the home screen. I read a lot in Safari, and it is maddening to have to find your place in the middle of the New York Times once or twice per issue. Hence, nursing the device to recover on its own is best. I have had this locking up in nearly every application from those I have purchased to native apps. Again, it seems to be most consistent when skimming from element to element. They do not have to be paragraph length clips, but may be dates in the calendar app. I have presented all of this to Apple on many occasions and have begged their assistance or at least some acknowledgement of the issue. As I said, beyond requesting more information one time, I have never even been given so much as a thank you for your inquiry. The only reasons I can think some don't seem to be having this issue ever is like they used to say with Windows: If you have not crashed, you are not using your computer enough. Well, there could be some Fan Children refusal to believe
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
I never leave things in the app switcher anyway, so I think that that out. I'll live with it, but maybe they'll fix it, lol. Danielle On 8 May 2012, at 04:05 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav for...@talknav.com wrote: Danielle, It would be my strong guess that it is a mixed issue primarily relating to screen reader synth speed, available processor at the time, RAM, apps running at the time etc. one thing to try, and I appreciate that you'll not want to do this for long, but, humour me, try for 48 hours doing the below and seeing if the issue resolves. A: speech rate no more than 60%, clear your app switcher twice daily, with one of these clearings occurring in the evening, immediately followed by a power cycle. It is my belief that the issue will go away, I'd be interested to see. if it does, keep clearing the apps, and power cycling once a day after one of the app switcher clear outs, and slowly increase the speech rate, and I mean slowly, say 65% and upwards in 5% increments. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 8 May 2012, at 13:24, Danielle McCullough wrote: Eric, I never said it was new, just irritating. Neil, I'm too impatient not to use it under a hundred percent. Strangely, I never experienced this before the 5.01 update. Funny how some people have it and some don't. Danielle - Original Message - From: Neil Barnfather - TalkNav for...@talknav.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 11:53 AM Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Eric, Do you have your synth speed set to very fast, or quite slow, I believe the default is about 30% or perhaps 40% but not faster. I keep mine around 50% but never higher. I also clear the switcher daily and restart. in your posting you give no reference to if you clear the switcher and restart your iOS device daily. do you do both of these things and what rate do you have VO set to? Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 8 May 2012, at 11:48, Eric SS wrote: I am amazed and confounded that so many who have been here for so long and speak as though they have such great knowledge act as though this is an unheard of experience that is brand new and only happening with a very few. This has been going on since IOS5. I know I have discussed it at length and probably too much. Apple has never acknowledged the issue, although they did once ask for clarification of what situations caused it. Trust me, I am a very heavy user and fairly knowledgeable and the issue is real and is not limited just to a few new occurrences on this list. I have tested it under all situations I can come up with on a 4S and old ITouch, with both quality voices and even alternate accents. I have restored both devices on several occasions; complete restores and not merely from backup. I have methodically added applications to the devices to find if maybe one is causing the problem. None of these has revealed anything but randomness. The only thing I can see that is more apt to trigger a lockup is quickly scanning elements. I have found if I stop speech or wait until it has finished speaking, I can reduce the occurrences, but even this does not eliminate them. Recovery seems an inexact science, as well. Eighty seconds seems to be the magic time to allow it to right itself, but I count to 40 and then touch the screen to prevent it going dem or to sleep, and then wait another 40 counts. It may not be exactly 80 seconds, but a count of 80 seems to be about right. Otherwise, you can restart the phone with multiple presses of the power button, but that will start you back at the home screen. I read a lot in Safari, and it is maddening to have to find your place in the middle of the New York Times once or twice per issue. Hence, nursing the device to recover on its own is best. I have had this locking up in nearly every application from those I have purchased to native apps. Again, it seems to be most consistent when skimming from element to element. They do not have to be paragraph length clips, but may be dates in the calendar app. I have presented all of this to Apple on many occasions and have begged their assistance or at least some acknowledgement of the issue. As I said, beyond requesting more information one time, I have never even been given so much as a
copying and pasting
Hi guys, Can anyone please give me a dumby's guide to copying and pasting? I can select all and copy and paste, but can't seem to get it to select work by word, or line by line. I need to know, both how to do it wth a bluetooth keyboard and without. Really hope someone can help me. Best wishes, Danielle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Audio Invaders
Hi, Fred posted earlier today about a game called audio invaders but I've changed the subject in the hope that it may get more attention. There are 2 versions in the app store; at this point its not really worth paying for the full version. I think we could have a really good game here if a few of us kindly asked the dev to make it more accessible. At the moment, the game is playable but has some major accessibility issues: Its inpossible to do anything at all with vo turned on. Even getting past the mistory screen that opens when the app is opened that apparently doesn't have anything on it and makes no sound requires that vo is turned off. Once you've turned vo off and tapped the bottom third of the screen in the centre, you are taken into what appears to be a menu with music. This is also inaccessible, but if you tap for long enough, you will eventually start the game. Gameplay is frustrating. At first you are presented with nothing but eventually you will hear some kind of enemy object moving closer to you. At this point, tilt your device around until it sounds from the centre of your headphones and tap anyware on the screen to shoot it. The 2 issues in gameplay are: Tilting is very slow to react and when it does I always seem to have tilted too much; those of us who have tilted our devices whilst playing aurify will know what I mean - this is exactly the same. You don't seem to be able to fire as quickly as you should be able to. Practicly speaking, you are only able to fire about 2/3 times whilst the object is in the centre. If you tap streight after you've fired, nothing will happen unless you weight and tap again. It's hard to think that this could be part of the gameplay as opposed to a bug. I'll be emailing the dev later today; I encourage everyone else to contact them with your own feedback. Cheers, Ben. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Capitals and caps-lock
Totally! Thanks, Jen. Could not find it in the user Cher guide. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jennie Facer Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 9:45 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Capitals and caps-lock A double tap on the shift button is the way to turn caps lock off. Hope this helps, Jenn To the world you are someone but to someone you are the world! On May 8, 2012, at 7:25 AM, Don Cher Bosch oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net wrote: On the password sign-in for updating an app on the iPhone, I could not get the shift to capitalize a letter. What is the procedure? Also, the caps-lock was engaged with a triple tap, but I could not toggle it back off with the same gesture. What is correct? Grateful for any help, Cher -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Finding Barcodes with Digit-Eyes
Hello Folks, I decided to see if there was some consistency on where the barcodes are located on cans, boxes, etc. For the most part, the seam overlapped to the left, the barcode was to the left of the seam about 1/2 from the bottom of the can or in the middle of the can. This is the same if the label on a can overlaps to the right where you can feel the edge of the label on the right side. Once in a while, I found the barcode in the middle of the can when the overlapping portion of the label was pointed to the left. This was on hot cocoa. With boxes, I looked for the top (to open the box) where the flap would be to get a directional sense. On the bottom of the package, it would be either on the left or right edge. However, I know in previous training for myself, the barcodes could be found on one of the sides of the box. I have more success when I move the phone slowly and wait for a click. As Nancy said, the camera needs to focus, so I give a couple of seconds in one location before moving the phone. I usually wait for a click before moving. Remember, you need to move the phone in a vertical direction and not horizontally. Also, I use my right thumb or index finger on the right upper corner of the phone to help line up the camera to make sure it is getting the area I think the barcode is in. My case for my phone has a nice rectangular opening to assist with lining it up with the item I am trying to scan. I am getting better with scanning regular objects, but like everything else, there will be a learning curve with it. I do advise to print out a practice sheet to master one's style in capturing the barcode. With items that have a label on two opposite sides, the smaller label is usually where one can find the barcode. If you are making audible labels, what I do is estimate where the middle of the label is, place the phone just below the upper edge, and then lift very slowly. I always use the right upper right corner and line it up using my fingers with the label. Again, I usually do not move the phone until I hear a click. This technique has help me master capturing the label with the barcode. I would only purchase Avery labels listed on the website, as I had problems getting Digit-Eyes to work with Staple labels. These are just my observations and I hope it helps others in using this wonderful app. Eileen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Weather app
What are people using these days as far as a weather application for the iPhone? I'm looking for one for a friend, and I would like it to be fairly simple. Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com Skype: lostonsylvane -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
even if you clear the app switcher regularly, do you power cycle daily, I mean turn it off and back on again? I also would suggest turning down the speech rate temporarily. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 8 May 2012, at 16:46, Danielle McCullough wrote: I never leave things in the app switcher anyway, so I think that that out. I'll live with it, but maybe they'll fix it, lol. Danielle On 8 May 2012, at 04:05 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav for...@talknav.com wrote: Danielle, It would be my strong guess that it is a mixed issue primarily relating to screen reader synth speed, available processor at the time, RAM, apps running at the time etc. one thing to try, and I appreciate that you'll not want to do this for long, but, humour me, try for 48 hours doing the below and seeing if the issue resolves. A: speech rate no more than 60%, clear your app switcher twice daily, with one of these clearings occurring in the evening, immediately followed by a power cycle. It is my belief that the issue will go away, I'd be interested to see. if it does, keep clearing the apps, and power cycling once a day after one of the app switcher clear outs, and slowly increase the speech rate, and I mean slowly, say 65% and upwards in 5% increments. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 8 May 2012, at 13:24, Danielle McCullough wrote: Eric, I never said it was new, just irritating. Neil, I'm too impatient not to use it under a hundred percent. Strangely, I never experienced this before the 5.01 update. Funny how some people have it and some don't. Danielle - Original Message - From: Neil Barnfather - TalkNav for...@talknav.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 11:53 AM Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Eric, Do you have your synth speed set to very fast, or quite slow, I believe the default is about 30% or perhaps 40% but not faster. I keep mine around 50% but never higher. I also clear the switcher daily and restart. in your posting you give no reference to if you clear the switcher and restart your iOS device daily. do you do both of these things and what rate do you have VO set to? Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 8 May 2012, at 11:48, Eric SS wrote: I am amazed and confounded that so many who have been here for so long and speak as though they have such great knowledge act as though this is an unheard of experience that is brand new and only happening with a very few. This has been going on since IOS5. I know I have discussed it at length and probably too much. Apple has never acknowledged the issue, although they did once ask for clarification of what situations caused it. Trust me, I am a very heavy user and fairly knowledgeable and the issue is real and is not limited just to a few new occurrences on this list. I have tested it under all situations I can come up with on a 4S and old ITouch, with both quality voices and even alternate accents. I have restored both devices on several occasions; complete restores and not merely from backup. I have methodically added applications to the devices to find if maybe one is causing the problem. None of these has revealed anything but randomness. The only thing I can see that is more apt to trigger a lockup is quickly scanning elements. I have found if I stop speech or wait until it has finished speaking, I can reduce the occurrences, but even this does not eliminate them. Recovery seems an inexact science, as well. Eighty seconds seems to be the magic time to allow it to right itself, but I count to 40 and then touch the screen to prevent it going dem or to sleep, and then wait another 40 counts. It may not be exactly 80 seconds, but a count of 80 seems to be about right. Otherwise, you can restart the phone with multiple presses of the power button, but that will start you back at the home screen. I read a lot in Safari, and it is maddening to have to find your place in the middle of the New York Times once or twice per issue. Hence,
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
this has never happened to me before On 5/8/12, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav for...@talknav.com wrote: even if you clear the app switcher regularly, do you power cycle daily, I mean turn it off and back on again? I also would suggest turning down the speech rate temporarily. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 8 May 2012, at 16:46, Danielle McCullough wrote: I never leave things in the app switcher anyway, so I think that that out. I'll live with it, but maybe they'll fix it, lol. Danielle On 8 May 2012, at 04:05 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav for...@talknav.com wrote: Danielle, It would be my strong guess that it is a mixed issue primarily relating to screen reader synth speed, available processor at the time, RAM, apps running at the time etc. one thing to try, and I appreciate that you'll not want to do this for long, but, humour me, try for 48 hours doing the below and seeing if the issue resolves. A: speech rate no more than 60%, clear your app switcher twice daily, with one of these clearings occurring in the evening, immediately followed by a power cycle. It is my belief that the issue will go away, I'd be interested to see. if it does, keep clearing the apps, and power cycling once a day after one of the app switcher clear outs, and slowly increase the speech rate, and I mean slowly, say 65% and upwards in 5% increments. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 8 May 2012, at 13:24, Danielle McCullough wrote: Eric, I never said it was new, just irritating. Neil, I'm too impatient not to use it under a hundred percent. Strangely, I never experienced this before the 5.01 update. Funny how some people have it and some don't. Danielle - Original Message - From: Neil Barnfather - TalkNav for...@talknav.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 11:53 AM Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Eric, Do you have your synth speed set to very fast, or quite slow, I believe the default is about 30% or perhaps 40% but not faster. I keep mine around 50% but never higher. I also clear the switcher daily and restart. in your posting you give no reference to if you clear the switcher and restart your iOS device daily. do you do both of these things and what rate do you have VO set to? Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 8 May 2012, at 11:48, Eric SS wrote: I am amazed and confounded that so many who have been here for so long and speak as though they have such great knowledge act as though this is an unheard of experience that is brand new and only happening with a very few. This has been going on since IOS5. I know I have discussed it at length and probably too much. Apple has never acknowledged the issue, although they did once ask for clarification of what situations caused it. Trust me, I am a very heavy user and fairly knowledgeable and the issue is real and is not limited just to a few new occurrences on this list. I have tested it under all situations I can come up with on a 4S and old ITouch, with both quality voices and even alternate accents. I have restored both devices on several occasions; complete restores and not merely from backup. I have methodically added applications to the devices to find if maybe one is causing the problem. None of these has revealed anything but randomness. The only thing I can see that is more apt to trigger a lockup is quickly scanning elements. I have found if I stop speech or wait until it has finished speaking, I can reduce the occurrences, but even this does not eliminate them. Recovery seems an inexact science, as well. Eighty seconds seems to be the magic time to allow it to right itself, but I count to 40 and then touch the screen to prevent it going dem or to sleep, and then wait another 40 counts. It may not be exactly 80 seconds, but a count of 80 seems to be about right. Otherwise, you can restart the phone with multiple presses of the power button, but that will start you back at the home screen. I read a lot in Safari, and it is maddening to have to find your
Apple blew it.
Apple did not fix the issue with the HIMS braille devices in IOS 5.1.1. They also did not fix the bug with setting an all-day appointment. Please write accessibil...@apple.com and let them know how unacceptable this is. Richard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out Voiceover going silent bug
If it were in fact caused by something innocuous as the speech rate being above fifty percent or so or some other variant such as the app switcher having x number of apps in it or not turning the device off and on, that in itself could and should be considered as a major bug that Apple hasn't addressed either. I personally have my speech rate set to one hundred percent. I think I would go crazy trying to use my phone at half that speed for any length of time. Maybe someone can go ahead and give it a try and see if that's really a contributor, but I doubt it since so many of us have experienced this particular bug under all sorts of circumstances and situations across various iPhone and iPad models. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 9:51 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out even if you clear the app switcher regularly, do you power cycle daily, I mean turn it off and back on again? I also would suggest turning down the speech rate temporarily. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 8 May 2012, at 16:46, Danielle McCullough wrote: I never leave things in the app switcher anyway, so I think that that out. I'll live with it, but maybe they'll fix it, lol. Danielle On 8 May 2012, at 04:05 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav for...@talknav.com wrote: Danielle, It would be my strong guess that it is a mixed issue primarily relating to screen reader synth speed, available processor at the time, RAM, apps running at the time etc. one thing to try, and I appreciate that you'll not want to do this for long, but, humour me, try for 48 hours doing the below and seeing if the issue resolves. A: speech rate no more than 60%, clear your app switcher twice daily, with one of these clearings occurring in the evening, immediately followed by a power cycle. It is my belief that the issue will go away, I'd be interested to see. if it does, keep clearing the apps, and power cycling once a day after one of the app switcher clear outs, and slowly increase the speech rate, and I mean slowly, say 65% and upwards in 5% increments. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 8 May 2012, at 13:24, Danielle McCullough wrote: Eric, I never said it was new, just irritating. Neil, I'm too impatient not to use it under a hundred percent. Strangely, I never experienced this before the 5.01 update. Funny how some people have it and some don't. Danielle - Original Message - From: Neil Barnfather - TalkNav for...@talknav.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 11:53 AM Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Eric, Do you have your synth speed set to very fast, or quite slow, I believe the default is about 30% or perhaps 40% but not faster. I keep mine around 50% but never higher. I also clear the switcher daily and restart. in your posting you give no reference to if you clear the switcher and restart your iOS device daily. do you do both of these things and what rate do you have VO set to? Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 8 May 2012, at 11:48, Eric SS wrote: I am amazed and confounded that so many who have been here for so long and speak as though they have such great knowledge act as though this is an unheard of experience that is brand new and only happening with a very few. This has been going on since IOS5. I know I have discussed it at length and probably too much. Apple has never acknowledged the issue, although they did once ask for clarification of what situations caused it. Trust me, I am a very heavy user and fairly knowledgeable and the issue is real and is not limited just to a few new occurrences on this list. I have tested it under all situations I can come up with on a 4S and old ITouch, with both quality voices and even alternate accents. I have restored both devices on several occasions; complete restores and not merely from backup. I have methodically added applications to the devices
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
Yeh I do. Can't bare the thought of slow speech. too impatient. I'll just make do - Original Message - From: Neil Barnfather - TalkNav for...@talknav.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 5:51 PM Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out even if you clear the app switcher regularly, do you power cycle daily, I mean turn it off and back on again? I also would suggest turning down the speech rate temporarily. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 8 May 2012, at 16:46, Danielle McCullough wrote: I never leave things in the app switcher anyway, so I think that that out. I'll live with it, but maybe they'll fix it, lol. Danielle On 8 May 2012, at 04:05 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav for...@talknav.com wrote: Danielle, It would be my strong guess that it is a mixed issue primarily relating to screen reader synth speed, available processor at the time, RAM, apps running at the time etc. one thing to try, and I appreciate that you'll not want to do this for long, but, humour me, try for 48 hours doing the below and seeing if the issue resolves. A: speech rate no more than 60%, clear your app switcher twice daily, with one of these clearings occurring in the evening, immediately followed by a power cycle. It is my belief that the issue will go away, I'd be interested to see. if it does, keep clearing the apps, and power cycling once a day after one of the app switcher clear outs, and slowly increase the speech rate, and I mean slowly, say 65% and upwards in 5% increments. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 8 May 2012, at 13:24, Danielle McCullough wrote: Eric, I never said it was new, just irritating. Neil, I'm too impatient not to use it under a hundred percent. Strangely, I never experienced this before the 5.01 update. Funny how some people have it and some don't. Danielle - Original Message - From: Neil Barnfather - TalkNav for...@talknav.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 11:53 AM Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out Eric, Do you have your synth speed set to very fast, or quite slow, I believe the default is about 30% or perhaps 40% but not faster. I keep mine around 50% but never higher. I also clear the switcher daily and restart. in your posting you give no reference to if you clear the switcher and restart your iOS device daily. do you do both of these things and what rate do you have VO set to? Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 8 May 2012, at 11:48, Eric SS wrote: I am amazed and confounded that so many who have been here for so long and speak as though they have such great knowledge act as though this is an unheard of experience that is brand new and only happening with a very few. This has been going on since IOS5. I know I have discussed it at length and probably too much. Apple has never acknowledged the issue, although they did once ask for clarification of what situations caused it. Trust me, I am a very heavy user and fairly knowledgeable and the issue is real and is not limited just to a few new occurrences on this list. I have tested it under all situations I can come up with on a 4S and old ITouch, with both quality voices and even alternate accents. I have restored both devices on several occasions; complete restores and not merely from backup. I have methodically added applications to the devices to find if maybe one is causing the problem. None of these has revealed anything but randomness. The only thing I can see that is more apt to trigger a lockup is quickly scanning elements. I have found if I stop speech or wait until it has finished speaking, I can reduce the occurrences, but even this does not eliminate them. Recovery seems an inexact science, as well. Eighty seconds seems to be the magic time to allow it to right itself, but I count to 40 and then touch the screen to prevent it going dem or to sleep, and then wait another 40 counts. It may not be exactly 80 seconds, but a count of 80 seems to be about right. Otherwise, you can restart the phone with multiple presses of the power button, but that will
Loss of Voice on Flick
Hi, is anyone else experiencing an issue where flicking forward and backward through items sometimes results in a loss of voice? Sometimes it might occur if I'm moving too fast. At other times it seems to happen when there is a long list of items. At such times I get the bong or chime or however it is you might describe the same sound you get when you hit the uppermost or lower most part of a screen. Thanks in advance if anyone can suggest a means of fixing this.--Joe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Apple blew it.
Hi guys, you have to understand that this was a verry miner update. I am sure it will be fixed in 6.0 On 5/8/12, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote: Apple did not fix the issue with the HIMS braille devices in IOS 5.1.1. They also did not fix the bug with setting an all-day appointment. Please write accessibil...@apple.com and let them know how unacceptable this is. Richard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Moderator reminder about higher list traffic and subject lines
Hi all. With the release of a new iOS version, the list traffic has jumped. Let's all remember that there are many people on list and so if your reply is geared more toward one person, then consider sending that reply off list. This will help keep the higher list traffic a bit more manageable. Also, as topics tend to morph into other topics, let's all remember to update the subject line. Eventually the talk about the new iOS version might be morphed into a talk about the new Zello app. Thanks all. -- Raul A. Gallegos - VIPhone Moderator Bartender, I'll have a Bin Laden What's that?... Two shots and a splash of water. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Weather app
Hi, I use Fahrenheit and love it. There is a number on the icon which tells you the current temperature. It has other features, but this is the main reason why I got it. The cost was just under 1 dollar. -- Raul A. Gallegos I used to work as a Lumberjack, but just couldn't hack it, so they gave me the axe. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 5/8/2012 12:40 PM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: What are people using these days as far as a weather application for the iPhone? I'm looking for one for a friend, and I would like it to be fairly simple. Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com Skype: lostonsylvane -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Audio Invaders
Ben, if you would be good enough to send me a link to the seller or an email address, I would be happy to drop them a note. I must admit I was somewhat disappointed to find an app so heavily touted for it's audio qualities to have fallen short of the mark in providing a functional app for possible blind users. Fred Olver - Original Message - From: Ben Mustill-Rose b...@benmr.com To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 10:54 AM Subject: Audio Invaders Hi, Fred posted earlier today about a game called audio invaders but I've changed the subject in the hope that it may get more attention. There are 2 versions in the app store; at this point its not really worth paying for the full version. I think we could have a really good game here if a few of us kindly asked the dev to make it more accessible. At the moment, the game is playable but has some major accessibility issues: Its inpossible to do anything at all with vo turned on. Even getting past the mistory screen that opens when the app is opened that apparently doesn't have anything on it and makes no sound requires that vo is turned off. Once you've turned vo off and tapped the bottom third of the screen in the centre, you are taken into what appears to be a menu with music. This is also inaccessible, but if you tap for long enough, you will eventually start the game. Gameplay is frustrating. At first you are presented with nothing but eventually you will hear some kind of enemy object moving closer to you. At this point, tilt your device around until it sounds from the centre of your headphones and tap anyware on the screen to shoot it. The 2 issues in gameplay are: Tilting is very slow to react and when it does I always seem to have tilted too much; those of us who have tilted our devices whilst playing aurify will know what I mean - this is exactly the same. You don't seem to be able to fire as quickly as you should be able to. Practicly speaking, you are only able to fire about 2/3 times whilst the object is in the centre. If you tap streight after you've fired, nothing will happen unless you weight and tap again. It's hard to think that this could be part of the gameplay as opposed to a bug. I'll be emailing the dev later today; I encourage everyone else to contact them with your own feedback. Cheers, Ben. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Weather app
Hi Raul, does this weather app use GPS base services where when you go from one area to another the name of the city will change like the native weather app on the iPhone in the notification center? Albert Martinez Los Angeles California Windows Live: albertm1...@hotmail.com Twitter: crazylakers Facebook: albertmart2...@roadrunner.com - Original Message - From: Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 10:55 AM Subject: Re: Weather app Hi, I use Fahrenheit and love it. There is a number on the icon which tells you the current temperature. It has other features, but this is the main reason why I got it. The cost was just under 1 dollar. -- Raul A. Gallegos I used to work as a Lumberjack, but just couldn't hack it, so they gave me the axe. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 5/8/2012 12:40 PM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: What are people using these days as far as a weather application for the iPhone? I'm looking for one for a friend, and I would like it to be fairly simple. Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com Skype: lostonsylvane -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
restoring from iCloud, help!
Hi, How can I restore my phone from an iCloud backup? Thanks, Courtney -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Weather app
I also wonder if there is a weather app that shows severe weather warnings. Thanks. God bless! Paula Jordan and Babe -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kristeen Hughes Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 12:41 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Weather app What are people using these days as far as a weather application for the iPhone? I'm looking for one for a friend, and I would like it to be fairly simple. Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com Skype: lostonsylvane -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.455 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/4982 - Release Date: 05/07/12 18:34:00 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Navigon
Hi Eric, That's exactly what I was talking about. And, that's exactly what I used to do when I last used Navigon (last summer). Last week I went on a road trip and used Navigon. It worked fine, but I couldn't get her to repeat herself by tapping on the mileage number you spoke of. Maybe the iPhone, or Navigon, was just acting persnickity that day. Who knows - I'll try it again. thanks P.S. have you done this recently? like, since the last few updates? or, like me, has it been a while since you've used that functionality. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Weather app
I just use the built in weather app, or else the met office one, but the met office app is only for the UK and is somewhat limited. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kristeen Hughes Sent: 08 May 2012 17:41 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Weather app What are people using these days as far as a weather application for the iPhone? I'm looking for one for a friend, and I would like it to be fairly simple. Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com Skype: lostonsylvane -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Braille Command For Flipping Pages in Google Books?
Teresa and Others, I'm sorry, I had forgotten that the Google Books app had been updated. I've tried flipping pages as well, and no luck. And of course, I didn't pay attention when everyone was talking about how to retrieve an older version of an app...apparently that's what we need to do, unless someone has other ideas for us. What a shame. I have $50 wort of books to read! Carrie -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 10:57 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Braille Command For Flipping Pages in Google Books? Thanks, Carrie. Oddly enough, o-chord isn't working. I'm thinking I may have a zoom or font setting screwed up, but otherwise, it's a mystery to me. Teresa Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough.--Richard P. Feynman On May 7, 2012, at 6:02 AM, Carrie Snodgrass wrote: Hi, Teresa, It's the same as with iBooks, which is O chord. However, you then have to scroll to the top of the next page. I don't know of any other way to turn the page in Google Books, but wish there was some way to do it and you'd wind up at the top of the next page, like in iBooks. HTH, Carrie -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 12:41 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Braille Command For Flipping Pages in Google Books? Hi all, I haven't used Google Books in awhile, and now I either can't remember or don't know the new command for paging forward with the Focus 40 Blue. I've tried dot-3 chord, dot-6-chold, v-chood, 1-4-5-6 chord, and several others. Ideas? Thanks, Teresa Winging its way from my iPod -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Apple blew it.
It's not all that unacceptable. Be happy we can even use it! Quit your complaining On 2012-05-08, at 1:08 PM, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote: Apple did not fix the issue with the HIMS braille devices in IOS 5.1.1. They also did not fix the bug with setting an all-day appointment. Please write accessibil...@apple.com and let them know how unacceptable this is. Richard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Problem with ear piece on 3gs
Yes I did and it didn't help. I did use skype ios 4 today and it sounded fine so It is just standered ccalls whare I have the problem. Matthew On May 7, 2012, at 11:31 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote: Hi matthew, I imagine you tried this, but just in case, did turning up the volume while talking to someone on the phone help? That's usually the way to fix this sort of thing. Best, Anna On May 7, 2012, at 6:10 PM, matthew Dyer wrote: Hi all, I am having issues with the ear piece on my iphone 3gs. I am able to hear the caller, but very faintly. this just started today this afternoon when I was trying to mmake a call. Any one have this problem and how do you fix it. I tried restarting the phone with no effect. I even looked in the settings but did not find any thing that might have changed it. Thanks. Matthew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: new with phone and tactile screen
Hi, I have never tried the tactil screen but I just want to say that a lot of experience a real learning curve when first starting with the iphone. I think we push ourselves to know everything, and if you take a relaxed attitude and just take your time, (you will not be the only one, i promise) you will learn a lot,and you will love it. I had a real hard time texting at first, thought I couldn't do it, but now I do it well, though if I were in a speed test, I probably wouldn't win. There are lots of people here to answer questions. Enjoy. Vicki Meizinger -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Braille Command For Flipping Pages in Google Books?
I searched the group messages on Google Groups, and found one that mentioned restoring the old version of an app in the Itunes library once you've deleted the version in which accessibility is broken. Teresa Nobody ever tells me anything!--James Forsyte, quoted in the Forsyte Saga On May 8, 2012, at 12:32 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: Well, drat it all over the place. Ok, I'll look up the message archives and see if I can find info on that. I'll also write a polite, stiff letter to Google. Thanks, Teresa Visualize whirled peas. On May 8, 2012, at 12:00 PM, Carrie Snodgrass wrote: Teresa and Others, I'm sorry, I had forgotten that the Google Books app had been updated. I've tried flipping pages as well, and no luck. And of course, I didn't pay attention when everyone was talking about how to retrieve an older version of an app...apparently that's what we need to do, unless someone has other ideas for us. What a shame. I have $50 wort of books to read! Carrie -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 10:57 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Braille Command For Flipping Pages in Google Books? Thanks, Carrie. Oddly enough, o-chord isn't working. I'm thinking I may have a zoom or font setting screwed up, but otherwise, it's a mystery to me. Teresa Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough.--Richard P. Feynman On May 7, 2012, at 6:02 AM, Carrie Snodgrass wrote: Hi, Teresa, It's the same as with iBooks, which is O chord. However, you then have to scroll to the top of the next page. I don't know of any other way to turn the page in Google Books, but wish there was some way to do it and you'd wind up at the top of the next page, like in iBooks. HTH, Carrie -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 12:41 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Braille Command For Flipping Pages in Google Books? Hi all, I haven't used Google Books in awhile, and now I either can't remember or don't know the new command for paging forward with the Focus 40 Blue. I've tried dot-3 chord, dot-6-chold, v-chood, 1-4-5-6 chord, and several others. Ideas? Thanks, Teresa Winging its way from my iPod -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Looktel money reader does not work
Any chance you need to clean your camera lens? I had that happen to me once. I use a lens cloth made for glasses. On May 7, 2012, at 3:32 PM, Grant Hardy wrote: Hi all, I have never gotten Looktel to identify any currency, even when the app is running, VoiceOver is on, and a sighted person is holding the currency at precisely the right angle near the back camera on my iPhone 4S. I am using Canadian currency, which is said to be supported. I even tried the Looktel object recognizer app and trained it to read a couple types of bills, but it has such a hard time distinguishing between kinds of bills that it really isn't accurate. Any ideas what could be going on? Best, Grant -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Talking clock app?
Hello everyone, I am wondering if someone out there can help me, as I'm having no luck. Can anyone recommend a talking clock application for the iPhone? The snag is, it needs to be able to talk when I'm not in the application, so it would be running in the app switcher. I have downloaded a few from the App Store, but they only work when you shake them in the actual application, not just from the home screen. Can anyone help? Best wishes, Danielle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
Kawal, Good to hear from you, to clear the switcher, from the home screen double press the home key, being the round button on the front of the iPhone. when you do this, Voice Over will announce that you are in the App Switcher. Apps run in a straight line of four along the bottom of the screen, you can three finger swipe left and right to change the page. but, this is not necessary, simply do a double tap and hold on the first icon, this is the first icon for the app found at the bottom left of the switcher screen. a double tap is the same as a regular double tap, but, on the second tap, do not let go. after about 3 seconds of holding your finger to the screen, you'll hear a distinctive sound, you may now release your finger. now simply double tap each app on the bottom line, as if you were opening it, they will disappear one by one, as each app appears, just double tap it, until they are all gone. now, swipe to the, close App switcher button, and double tap, or, just press the home key. you can now, and should now, restart your phone. this will give you the best performance overall. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 8 May 2012, at 12:17, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: How do you lear the switcher? I just turn mine off daily. On 8 May 2012, at 11:53 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav for...@talknav.com wrote: Eric, Do you have your synth speed set to very fast, or quite slow, I believe the default is about 30% or perhaps 40% but not faster. I keep mine around 50% but never higher. I also clear the switcher daily and restart. in your posting you give no reference to if you clear the switcher and restart your iOS device daily. do you do both of these things and what rate do you have VO set to? Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 8 May 2012, at 11:48, Eric SS wrote: I am amazed and confounded that so many who have been here for so long and speak as though they have such great knowledge act as though this is an unheard of experience that is brand new and only happening with a very few. This has been going on since IOS5. I know I have discussed it at length and probably too much. Apple has never acknowledged the issue, although they did once ask for clarification of what situations caused it. Trust me, I am a very heavy user and fairly knowledgeable and the issue is real and is not limited just to a few new occurrences on this list. I have tested it under all situations I can come up with on a 4S and old ITouch, with both quality voices and even alternate accents. I have restored both devices on several occasions; complete restores and not merely from backup. I have methodically added applications to the devices to find if maybe one is causing the problem. None of these has revealed anything but randomness. The only thing I can see that is more apt to trigger a lockup is quickly scanning elements. I have found if I stop speech or wait until it has finished speaking, I can reduce the occurrences, but even this does not eliminate them. Recovery seems an inexact science, as well. Eighty seconds seems to be the magic time to allow it to right itself, but I count to 40 and then touch the screen to prevent it going dem or to sleep, and then wait another 40 counts. It may not be exactly 80 seconds, but a count of 80 seems to be about right. Otherwise, you can restart the phone with multiple presses of the power button, but that will start you back at the home screen. I read a lot in Safari, and it is maddening to have to find your place in the middle of the New York Times once or twice per issue. Hence, nursing the device to recover on its own is best. I have had this locking up in nearly every application from those I have purchased to native apps. Again, it seems to be most consistent when skimming from element to element. They do not have to be paragraph length clips, but may be dates in the calendar app. I have presented all of this to Apple on many occasions and have begged their assistance or at least some acknowledgement of the issue. As I said, beyond requesting more information one time, I have never even been given so much as a thank you for your inquiry. The only reasons I can think some don't seem to be having this issue ever is like they used to say with Windows: If you have not crashed, you are not using your computer enough.
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
Eric, it does not sound like you are rejecting the idea, but, I would say that this made a massive difference to stability of Voice Over for me, I used to have stammering synths and stalls quite often, by clearing my App switcher up to three times daily, but, always without fail twice, and always restarting the phone following the second app switcher clearing at the night time, this made a huge difference to Voice Over performance. remember, your iPhone is a computer, and computers need this maintenance frequently. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 8 May 2012, at 12:36, Eric SS wrote: Hi Neil. I keep my speech rate at 65% most often, but I will very that from 60 to 75%. Anything slower seems torturous. I do go into the application switcher and clear it before I am going to do a lot of reading. That has not seemed to make a difference, however. The one area I am lax is I do not restart my phone every day, not even every several days. But, I have not found that that will make a difference. I hope it does not sound as though I am rejecting all alternatives. I have just tried so many, and none of them have been successful. It is most maddening because the problem is intermittent. All thanks! E Telephone: (614) 522-9725 Skype: sseric57 On May 8, 2012, at 6:53 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav for...@talknav.com wrote: Eric, Do you have your synth speed set to very fast, or quite slow, I believe the default is about 30% or perhaps 40% but not faster. I keep mine around 50% but never higher. I also clear the switcher daily and restart. in your posting you give no reference to if you clear the switcher and restart your iOS device daily. do you do both of these things and what rate do you have VO set to? Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 8 May 2012, at 11:48, Eric SS wrote: I am amazed and confounded that so many who have been here for so long and speak as though they have such great knowledge act as though this is an unheard of experience that is brand new and only happening with a very few. This has been going on since IOS5. I know I have discussed it at length and probably too much. Apple has never acknowledged the issue, although they did once ask for clarification of what situations caused it. Trust me, I am a very heavy user and fairly knowledgeable and the issue is real and is not limited just to a few new occurrences on this list. I have tested it under all situations I can come up with on a 4S and old ITouch, with both quality voices and even alternate accents. I have restored both devices on several occasions; complete restores and not merely from backup. I have methodically added applications to the devices to find if maybe one is causing the problem. None of these has revealed anything but randomness. The only thing I can see that is more apt to trigger a lockup is quickly scanning elements. I have found if I stop speech or wait until it has finished speaking, I can reduce the occurrences, but even this does not eliminate them. Recovery seems an inexact science, as well. Eighty seconds seems to be the magic time to allow it to right itself, but I count to 40 and then touch the screen to prevent it going dem or to sleep, and then wait another 40 counts. It may not be exactly 80 seconds, but a count of 80 seems to be about right. Otherwise, you can restart the phone with multiple presses of the power button, but that will start you back at the home screen. I read a lot in Safari, and it is maddening to have to find your place in the middle of the New York Times once or twice per issue. Hence, nursing the device to recover on its own is best. I have had this locking up in nearly every application from those I have purchased to native apps. Again, it seems to be most consistent when skimming from element to element. They do not have to be paragraph length clips, but may be dates in the calendar app. I have presented all of this to Apple on many occasions and have begged their assistance or at least some acknowledgement of the issue. As I said, beyond requesting more information one time, I have never even been given so much as a thank you for your inquiry. The only reasons I can think some don't seem to be having this issue ever is like they used to say with Windows: If you have not crashed, you are not using your computer enough. Well, there could be some Fan Children refusal to believe
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
Kawal, Good to hear from you, to clear the switcher, from the home screen double press the home key, being the round button on the front of the iPhone. when you do this, Voice Over will announce that you are in the App Switcher. Apps run in a straight line of four along the bottom of the screen, you can three finger swipe left and right to change the page. but, this is not necessary, simply do a double tap and hold on the first icon, this is the first icon for the app found at the bottom left of the switcher screen. a double tap is the same as a regular double tap, but, on the second tap, do not let go. after about 3 seconds of holding your finger to the screen, you'll hear a distinctive sound, you may now release your finger. now simply double tap each app on the bottom line, as if you were opening it, they will disappear one by one, as each app appears, just double tap it, until they are all gone. now, swipe to the, close App switcher button, and double tap, or, just press the home key. you can now, and should now, restart your phone. this will give you the best performance overall. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 8 May 2012, at 12:17, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: How do you lear the switcher? I just turn mine off daily. On 8 May 2012, at 11:53 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav for...@talknav.com wrote: Eric, Do you have your synth speed set to very fast, or quite slow, I believe the default is about 30% or perhaps 40% but not faster. I keep mine around 50% but never higher. I also clear the switcher daily and restart. in your posting you give no reference to if you clear the switcher and restart your iOS device daily. do you do both of these things and what rate do you have VO set to? Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 8 May 2012, at 11:48, Eric SS wrote: I am amazed and confounded that so many who have been here for so long and speak as though they have such great knowledge act as though this is an unheard of experience that is brand new and only happening with a very few. This has been going on since IOS5. I know I have discussed it at length and probably too much. Apple has never acknowledged the issue, although they did once ask for clarification of what situations caused it. Trust me, I am a very heavy user and fairly knowledgeable and the issue is real and is not limited just to a few new occurrences on this list. I have tested it under all situations I can come up with on a 4S and old ITouch, with both quality voices and even alternate accents. I have restored both devices on several occasions; complete restores and not merely from backup. I have methodically added applications to the devices to find if maybe one is causing the problem. None of these has revealed anything but randomness. The only thing I can see that is more apt to trigger a lockup is quickly scanning elements. I have found if I stop speech or wait until it has finished speaking, I can reduce the occurrences, but even this does not eliminate them. Recovery seems an inexact science, as well. Eighty seconds seems to be the magic time to allow it to right itself, but I count to 40 and then touch the screen to prevent it going dem or to sleep, and then wait another 40 counts. It may not be exactly 80 seconds, but a count of 80 seems to be about right. Otherwise, you can restart the phone with multiple presses of the power button, but that will start you back at the home screen. I read a lot in Safari, and it is maddening to have to find your place in the middle of the New York Times once or twice per issue. Hence, nursing the device to recover on its own is best. I have had this locking up in nearly every application from those I have purchased to native apps. Again, it seems to be most consistent when skimming from element to element. They do not have to be paragraph length clips, but may be dates in the calendar app. I have presented all of this to Apple on many occasions and have begged their assistance or at least some acknowledgement of the issue. As I said, beyond requesting more information one time, I have never even been given so much as a thank you for your inquiry. The only reasons I can think some don't seem to be having this issue ever is like they used to say with Windows: If you have not crashed, you are not using your computer enough.
updating to the latest IS
hi all i havent updated to IS 5 when i do will it update my apps? there are apps i do not want to update Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Problem with ear piece on 3gs
How long you had your phone? Still under warrantee? - Original Message - From: matthew Dyer ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 15:19 Subject: Re: Problem with ear piece on 3gs Yes I did and it didn't help. I did use skype ios 4 today and it sounded fine so It is just standered ccalls whare I have the problem. Matthew On May 7, 2012, at 11:31 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote: Hi matthew, I imagine you tried this, but just in case, did turning up the volume while talking to someone on the phone help? That's usually the way to fix this sort of thing. Best, Anna On May 7, 2012, at 6:10 PM, matthew Dyer wrote: Hi all, I am having issues with the ear piece on my iphone 3gs. I am able to hear the caller, but very faintly. this just started today this afternoon when I was trying to mmake a call. Any one have this problem and how do you fix it. I tried restarting the phone with no effect. I even looked in the settings but did not find any thing that might have changed it. Thanks. Matthew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
re: Mark on iPhone and Trekker
BlankI don't wish to start a debate on the various navigation packages, however in fairness to accuracy, Krister's comment below regarding Sendero needs a strong rebuttal. In stating first that the maps rarely, if ever, get updated is totally false. There are map updates almost yearly. Generally, of course, the streets don't change, except for new additions, and yes the business listings will never be up-to-date because they always are in a constant state of flux. This is irrespective of GPS program or navigation solution or who produces the maps. In reality, there are really only two sources for satellite maps, TeleAtlas and Navteq. You will find with the Sendero product, that the database for points-of-interest is huge. I've found businesses in my neighborhood ran out of people's homes that weren't on my son's TomTom or on the Trekker. Furthermore, you can edit those POI's, so for example, when a local restaurant changed ownership and name, I was able to edit this information. When a grocer near my house closed, I marked it as closed; now that that location is opening as a different business, I can go and re-edit that file appropriately. Then, if I choose, I can share that info with other Sendero users. In addition, many transit companies have GTFS data on line. Sendero is very responsive in getting that info out in a file that we can use to locate bus stops and which routes are served at each stop. I've seen them respond to a problem with one of the larger metro feeds in Wisconsin in less than a day after it was brought up, and add more information to the Portland Oregon feed based on a user suggestion within a matter of a few hours. I certainly won't deny that their GPS offering is a Cadillac, and that it won't work on the iPhone yet. However, it would take three different GPS solutions on the iPhone and even then you can't duplicate the convenience of getting the type of feedback that I find really helpful when walking in an unfamiliar city. I don't need to be screwing around with a bunch of different commands when tip-tapping about, so I prefer the Sendero GPS as long as I have a choice. Take my advice, I don't use it anyway. Steve Lansing, MI In a previous message, Krister wrote: Hi Mark and others. I really don't understand one thing in this whole discussion of what gps system to use. I don't like the blind specific solutions from Sendero and others. From what i have heard, the maps very seldom if ever get updated, which means that how ever good the gps is at various anouncements, the maps we follow will be obsolete, so the pois wi want simply won't be there. Another thing is that a mainstream off-the-shelf gps app could easily be modified so that it speaks whatever you desire it to speak. I say easily, thereby taking a risk since i don't know anything about programming, but remember that the blind specific gps-es sends their info to the speech synth/screen reader rather than talks via a recorded voice, am i right? If so there are means for an app such as Navigon to send the things we want it to send, such as street names and such to the screen reader, in this case VoiceOver. We have seen this done before, in games like Kings corner, chat apps like IM plus and gps apps like Ariadne, so Navigon, Tomtom and others should be able to do this, if someone with much, much better programming knowledge than me could describe the solution to the developers of said apps. If they then will listen, that's a totally different story but it could be done. Am i totally wrong in this? /Krister Secret Service: Where we emphasize Service over Secret Steve Lansing, MI -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Apple blew it.
This is my last note on this topic. In this case, it is actually all Apples fault. They had the HIMS drivers working fine in IOS 5.0. Apple broke that in 5.1 when they added the Humanware Brailliant BI. Since HIMS was coming out with a new braille display and a new note taker, they gave Apple the updated drivers shortly after 5.1 came out. Apple release 5.1.1 without doing anything about the problems they created with 5.1. The calendar bug is 100 percent Apple's issue, not dependent on any third party. I'm done now. I think I'll take a long break from this list now. TTFN, Richard On May 8, 2012, at 1:14 PM, Ed Worrell blindworr...@optimum.net wrote: It's not all Apples fault either, the developers of the 3rd party products need to fix there lose ends too, it's a two way street. Everything isn't Apple's fault. Ed -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: new with phone and tactile screen
I don't use a tactile screen cover, but I'm curious how one is able to determine what is on other pages of the screne, or is it just a series of reference points for the placement of the apps and the items in the dock? Fred Olver - Original Message - From: Vicki Meizinger mom.meizin...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 2:34 PM Subject: Re: new with phone and tactile screen Hi, I have never tried the tactil screen but I just want to say that a lot of experience a real learning curve when first starting with the iphone. I think we push ourselves to know everything, and if you take a relaxed attitude and just take your time, (you will not be the only one, i promise) you will learn a lot,and you will love it. I had a real hard time texting at first, thought I couldn't do it, but now I do it well, though if I were in a speed test, I probably wouldn't win. There are lots of people here to answer questions. Enjoy. Vicki Meizinger -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: new with phone and tactile screen
I think it is a series of reference points on the screen, such as common buttons, key placements for the virtual keyboard, and other things. The trouble with the tactile screens is that if you use an app that has things in different places, or even orients your phone/pod in landscape view, the tactile screen does you very little good. I have never used a tactile screen myself, so may not know what I'm talking about. I used the touch screen for the first 6 months of having my iPhone with no issues. When the tactile screens started coming out for the iPhone last year, I figured that if I had used the phone with no issues for 6 months, then why get a tactile screen. I suppose it is a personal choice though. Another possible issue to consider is that the screen orientations may not be clear. This is an issue if you ever have someone look at your screen. If the tactile screen is not clear, then your phone or devices screen cannot be visible to a sighted person. If the tactile screens are clear, then this would not be a problem. Those that have tactile screens say they can quickly move around their screens. I can quickly move around my screen, but that's mainly because I know where common items are supposed to be in the apps I regularly use. I can also move quickly around the screen with my bluetooth wireless keyboard, so again I suppose its a matter of personal preference. Wayne On 5/8/12, fred olver goodfo...@charter.net wrote: I don't use a tactile screen cover, but I'm curious how one is able to determine what is on other pages of the screne, or is it just a series of reference points for the placement of the apps and the items in the dock? Fred Olver - Original Message - From: Vicki Meizinger mom.meizin...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 2:34 PM Subject: Re: new with phone and tactile screen Hi, I have never tried the tactil screen but I just want to say that a lot of experience a real learning curve when first starting with the iphone. I think we push ourselves to know everything, and if you take a relaxed attitude and just take your time, (you will not be the only one, i promise) you will learn a lot,and you will love it. I had a real hard time texting at first, thought I couldn't do it, but now I do it well, though if I were in a speed test, I probably wouldn't win. There are lots of people here to answer questions. Enjoy. Vicki Meizinger -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- Follow me on Twitter at: www.twitter.com/wcmerritt My websites: www.wayneism.com www.whitecaneday.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
Thanks Neil. I did not know you had to do this so I have lots in my App switcher. Kawal. On 8 May 2012, at 02:25 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav for...@talknav.com wrote: Kawal, Good to hear from you, to clear the switcher, from the home screen double press the home key, being the round button on the front of the iPhone. when you do this, Voice Over will announce that you are in the App Switcher. Apps run in a straight line of four along the bottom of the screen, you can three finger swipe left and right to change the page. but, this is not necessary, simply do a double tap and hold on the first icon, this is the first icon for the app found at the bottom left of the switcher screen. a double tap is the same as a regular double tap, but, on the second tap, do not let go. after about 3 seconds of holding your finger to the screen, you'll hear a distinctive sound, you may now release your finger. now simply double tap each app on the bottom line, as if you were opening it, they will disappear one by one, as each app appears, just double tap it, until they are all gone. now, swipe to the, close App switcher button, and double tap, or, just press the home key. you can now, and should now, restart your phone. this will give you the best performance overall. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 8 May 2012, at 12:17, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: How do you lear the switcher? I just turn mine off daily. On 8 May 2012, at 11:53 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav for...@talknav.com wrote: Eric, Do you have your synth speed set to very fast, or quite slow, I believe the default is about 30% or perhaps 40% but not faster. I keep mine around 50% but never higher. I also clear the switcher daily and restart. in your posting you give no reference to if you clear the switcher and restart your iOS device daily. do you do both of these things and what rate do you have VO set to? Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 8 May 2012, at 11:48, Eric SS wrote: I am amazed and confounded that so many who have been here for so long and speak as though they have such great knowledge act as though this is an unheard of experience that is brand new and only happening with a very few. This has been going on since IOS5. I know I have discussed it at length and probably too much. Apple has never acknowledged the issue, although they did once ask for clarification of what situations caused it. Trust me, I am a very heavy user and fairly knowledgeable and the issue is real and is not limited just to a few new occurrences on this list. I have tested it under all situations I can come up with on a 4S and old ITouch, with both quality voices and even alternate accents. I have restored both devices on several occasions; complete restores and not merely from backup. I have methodically added applications to the devices to find if maybe one is causing the problem. None of these has revealed anything but randomness. The only thing I can see that is more apt to trigger a lockup is quickly scanning elements. I have found if I stop speech or wait until it has finished speaking, I can reduce the occurrences, but even this does not eliminate them. Recovery seems an inexact science, as well. Eighty seconds seems to be the magic time to allow it to right itself, but I count to 40 and then touch the screen to prevent it going dem or to sleep, and then wait another 40 counts. It may not be exactly 80 seconds, but a count of 80 seems to be about right. Otherwise, you can restart the phone with multiple presses of the power button, but that will start you back at the home screen. I read a lot in Safari, and it is maddening to have to find your place in the middle of the New York Times once or twice per issue. Hence, nursing the device to recover on its own is best. I have had this locking up in nearly every application from those I have purchased to native apps. Again, it seems to be most consistent when skimming from element to element. They do not have to be paragraph length clips, but may be dates in the calendar app. I have presented all of this to Apple on many occasions and have begged their assistance or at least some acknowledgement of the issue. As I said, beyond requesting more information one time, I have never even been
RE: Looktel money reader does not work
To add to these questions is the camera lens clean and clear of interference? Dixie ~ @- ~ -@ ~ -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eyal Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 8:42 PM To: VIPhone Subject: Re: Looktel money reader does not work Hi Grant, Are you using the latest version of LookTel Money reader or the first version that did not have Canadian currency in it? Check to make sure you have the latest version. Are lighting conditions good enough for the camera to see the bills? On May 7, 2:32Â pm, Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I have never gotten Looktel to identify any currency, even when the app is running, VoiceOver is on, and a sighted person is holding the currency at precisely the right angle near the back camera on my iPhone 4S. I am using Canadian currency, which is said to be supported. I even tried the Looktel object recognizer app and trained it to read a couple types of bills, but it has such a hard time distinguishing between kinds of bills that it really isn't accurate. Any ideas what could be going on? Best, Grant -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: updating to the latest IS
No it won't you will have to get the updates yourself. Christopher Hallsworth On 08/05/2012 21:40, Molly Marcinick wrote: hi all i havent updated to IS 5 when i do will it update my apps? there are apps i do not want to update Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Can I get Voice Over to shut up while I am on the phone
Hi All, This has probably come up before, but when I answer a call, voice over gives me caller I D information, and then continues to repeat it over and over through the call. I sometimes do a two finger double tap to turn off voice over, but this is not practical when using a bluetooth headset. Is there a way to disable the caller I D function? In settings I have show my caller I D switched to off. Thanks, Chuck -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Can I get Voice Over to shut up while I am on the phone
Do a three finger double tap. This will shut up voice over but you can still use all of the commands. Voice over drives me nuts too when I am on a call. When you are ready to end the call, do a two finger double tap to hang up. Then do a three finger double tap to turn VO speech back on. Tom PM, Chuck Dean wrote: Hi All, This has probably come up before, but when I answer a call, voice over gives me caller I D information, and then continues to repeat it over and over through the call. I sometimes do a two finger double tap to turn off voice over, but this is not practical when using a bluetooth headset. Is there a way to disable the caller I D function? In settings I have show my caller I D switched to off. Thanks, Chuck -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: new with phone and tactile screen
Hi, I have one of these on my 4S. I have the basic one which has most of the letters dotted. I think they are pretty good. They help with quickly orienting to certain parts of the screen. Even if it's not just in typing, there are other apps which I can use faster since I can go for the placement of certain dots. I highly recommend these. -- Raul A. Gallegos Cheat on your taxes and you'll end up in one of two places - jail or working in Washington. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 5/8/2012 3:27 PM, Judy Watford wrote: Hi, This is my first post. I have Anna's book and am learning my phone very slowly, but sticking with it even though there times I have thought of throwing it across the room. (smile) Has anyone used the tactile screen covers from atguys? if so, have you found them to be helpful? Thanks in advance, Judy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Weather app
Hello Albert, yes it does. You can do it this way, or you can add multiple cities. You can make it so you are notified each time the program updates, or you can just look at the badge icon. It's very flexible. And for those of you who don't want to use the Imperial system, there is a sister app called Celsius which does the same thing, but in the Metric system. -- Raul A. Gallegos A DECIMAL POINT: When you rearrange the letters you get: IM A DOT IN PLACE. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 5/8/2012 2:17 PM, Albert Martinez wrote: Hi Raul, does this weather app use GPS base services where when you go from one area to another the name of the city will change like the native weather app on the iPhone in the notification center? Albert Martinez Los Angeles California Windows Live: albertm1...@hotmail.com Twitter: crazylakers Facebook: albertmart2...@roadrunner.com - Original Message - From: Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 10:55 AM Subject: Re: Weather app Hi, I use Fahrenheit and love it. There is a number on the icon which tells you the current temperature. It has other features, but this is the main reason why I got it. The cost was just under 1 dollar. -- Raul A. Gallegos I used to work as a Lumberjack, but just couldn't hack it, so they gave me the axe. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 5/8/2012 12:40 PM, Kristeen Hughes wrote: What are people using these days as far as a weather application for the iPhone? I'm looking for one for a friend, and I would like it to be fairly simple. Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com Skype: lostonsylvane -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Apple blew it.
I'm also not sure it's even a desirable feature. One of the strengths of Apple, for blind users, is that VoiceOver is a core component of the OS. I think we want to keep this. My concern is that if they have a separate path for VO bugs then it may ease us into 2nd class citizens. I think the better approach is to make sure these accessibility bugs get prioritized near the top of the queue and these fixes get pushed out quickly in the normal update path. I haven't thought about this issue a hole lot, but that's my $002 for now. On 08/05/12 13:33, Scott Howell wrote: I'm not so sure such a feature would be possible. VoiceOver is not bolted on it is a core component of the OS. Although a nice idea, just not practical. Unfortunately we hav have no idea how many people have written to Apple informing them of the issue. So, if only a few people are having the problem as compared to the entire user population, they will prioritize accordingly. You have to understand that in the scheme of things it really comes down to resources and priorities balanced against those resources. I can very much appreciate the issue of not being able to use your Braille display. I was very much in that situation until iOS 5.0 came out and I had my display for nearly a year. On May 8, 2012, at 2:31 PM, paras shah wrote: a couple weeks ago, I sent a sujjestion to apple saying that they should have a voice over spicific update system. Meaning, if a bug gets fixed they can push it out and it would not affect the jeneral public. The more people email apple about this feature the better. On 5/8/12, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote: That isn't acceptable. Lots of peole have braille devices that worked fine until 5.1 so many thousands of dollars worth of equipment is not usable until Apple deams accessibility to be a priority. They broke it, they need to fix it. Richard On May 8, 2012, at 10:40 AM, paras shah parasha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, you have to understand that this was a verry miner update. I am sure it will be fixed in 6.0 On 5/8/12, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote: Apple did not fix the issue with the HIMS braille devices in IOS 5.1.1. They also did not fix the bug with setting an all-day appointment. Please write accessibil...@apple.com and let them know how unacceptable this is. Richard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- Christopher (CJ) chalt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Talking clock app?
Can the chime be set withought downloading an app. I haven't seen a setting for that anywhere. Thanks. God bless! Paula Jordan and Babe -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Merritt Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 4:17 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Talking clock app? Do you have an iPhone, an iPod Touch or an iPad? Have you looked in the status bar for your iOS device to see if the time is displayed? Are you looking for an app to announce the time whenever you want it or at the top of each hour? If at the top of the hour, then have you looked at Hourly Chime in Background? You can set it to announce the time rather than chime and have it run in the background. As long as the app is in your app switcher, it will chime/announce the time for all of the hours you specify. Considering you can get the time each time you press the lock button on your device, I don't see why you would need a talking clock app. Please provide more information. Hth, Wayne On 5/8/12, Danielle McCullough danielle.mcculloug...@googlemail.com wrote: Hello everyone, I am wondering if someone out there can help me, as I'm having no luck. Can anyone recommend a talking clock application for the iPhone? The snag is, it needs to be able to talk when I'm not in the application, so it would be running in the app switcher. I have downloaded a few from the App Store, but they only work when you shake them in the actual application, not just from the home screen. Can anyone help? Best wishes, Danielle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- Follow me on Twitter at: www.twitter.com/wcmerritt My websites: www.wayneism.com www.whitecaneday.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.455 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/4982 - Release Date: 05/07/12 18:34:00 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Talking clock app?
I really need something that I can check when I choose, without my having to lose focus on the screen, if I were typing for example. Best wishes, Danielle On 8 May 2012, at 09:22 PM, Danny Leung dlng321.mob...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I am using the free app calls chime. It has the option to announce the time in every 15minutes, 30 minutes on the hour or before the hour. It works even the phone is lock. I like it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Apple blew it.
Just my two cents here, the way I understand it is that this update was just fixing a few security holes, just be paiciant. I think that there will be some improvment in a bigger update. I don't think that Steve passing has anything to do with quality control, or lack of accessibility bugs being fixed slowly. They have to take a look at the big picture and find the biggest problems that affect the whole, yes I understand that there are some bugs that haven't been fixed, but they will. Just be paiciant. Ed -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: copying and pasting
Danniel: Please, how can I select the text and copy and paste it?/ Thanks in advance Cheers: Ramy Moustafa Owner and producer of Harmony recording studios skype: roma30 Facebook: moustafa.r...@gmail.com Twitter: Ramymoustafa youtube chanael: www.youtube.com/ramymoustafasaber -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Danielle McCullough Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 5:49 PM To: Viphone Subject: copying and pasting Hi guys, Can anyone please give me a dumby's guide to copying and pasting? I can select all and copy and paste, but can't seem to get it to select work by word, or line by line. I need to know, both how to do it wth a bluetooth keyboard and without. Really hope someone can help me. Best wishes, Danielle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: new with phone and tactile screen
Hi: I have here the 3gs, and it's working ok without the tacktel protectors. But, I percioused them through the ATI GUYS. The only comment is that, there reply is so bad, and they didn't responde to my questions at all. Cheers: Ramy Moustafa Owner and producer of Harmony recording studios skype: roma30 Facebook: moustafa.r...@gmail.com Twitter: Ramymoustafa youtube chanael: www.youtube.com/ramymoustafasaber _ From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Judy Watford Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 9:28 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: new with phone and tactile screen Hi, This is my first post. I have Anna's book and am learning my phone very slowly, but sticking with it even though there times I have thought of throwing it across the room. (smile) Has anyone used the tactile screen covers from atguys? if so, have you found them to be helpful? Thanks in advance, Judy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Checking battery percentage remaining [was Re: very basic question]
Thanks so much for this advice. But all my notifications r the same, the clock and all these. Cheers: Ramy Moustafa Owner and producer of Harmony recording studios skype: roma30 Facebook: moustafa.r...@gmail.com Twitter: Ramymoustafa youtube chanael: www.youtube.com/ramymoustafasaber -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 1:26 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Checking battery percentage remaining [was Re: very basic question] I get the percentage of battery charge remaining when I explore the upper right hand corner of the screen. I'd also suggest using a more descriptive subject line. Something less generic might get someone who knows the answer to take a peak. On 08/05/12 15:49, Ramy Moustafa wrote: Hi all: Sorry for asking this question but I need it really, voce over always says battery power, how can I know the remaining percentage? Why voice over can't pronounce that? Thanks in advance Cheers: Ramy Moustafa Owner and producer of Harmony recording studios skype: roma30 Facebook: moustafa.r...@gmail.com mailto:moustafa.r...@gmail.com Twitter: Ramymoustafa youtube chanael: www.youtube.com/ramymoustafasaber http://www.youtube.com/ramymoustafasaber -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- Christopher (CJ) chalt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Mark On iPhone On Trekker Breeze
Hi, Sendero GPS uses Tele Atlas maps which btw, are the same as what Google Maps use. So updates happen when they are available. Maybe you are thinking of program updates, which are slightly differently. FRom what I know, Sendero has come out with an update at least once per year, sometimes even more. Thanks. -- Raul A. Gallegos Never have more children than you have car windows. - Erma Bombeck Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 5/8/2012 7:25 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hi Mark and others. I really don't understand one thing in this whole discussion of what gps system to use. I don't like the blind specific solutions from Sendero and others. From what i have heard, the maps very seldom if ever get updated, which means that how ever good the gps is at various anouncements, the maps we follow will be obsolete, so the pois wi want simply won't be there. Another thing is that a mainstream off-the-shelf gps app could easily be modified so that it speaks whatever you desire it to speak. I say easily, thereby taking a risk since i don't know anything about programming, but remember that the blind specific gps-es sends their info to the speech synth/screen reader rather than talks via a recorded voice, am i right? If so there are means for an app such as Navigon to send the things we want it to send, such as street names and such to the screen reader, in this case VoiceOver. We have seen this done before, in games like Kings corner, chat apps like IM plus and gps apps like Ariadne, so Navigon, Tomtom and others should be able to do this, if someone with much, much better programming knowledge than me could describe the solution to the developers of said apps. If they then will listen, that's a totally different story but it could be done. Am i totally wrong in this? /Krister 8 maj 2012 kl. 12:40 skrev Les Kriegler: Hi Mark, I really enjoyed reading your most informative post. I also purchased the Trekker Breeze at the end of last year. I did so because I wanted an more comprehensive way of accessing walking routes. I do like street names announced, and I have not been able to get that reliably from the commercially available apps. If a company like Sendero comes out with an app comparable to Mobile Geo, I'll probably obtain it, but for now, the Breeze is a really good option and I've made good use of it. Also, even though we have GPS in our vehicle, my wife actually prefers all of the information the Breeze provides when we are on route. Les On May 7, 2012, at 7:30 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Everyone, In 2005 I purchased my first GPS solution; it was the Trekker/Maestro Del 51 PDA from HumanWare. If memory serves, among other difficulties, the PDA did not have an Off button. When not in use, it had to be plugged into a charger to prevent power loss. Be that as it may, it was the most amazing piece of technology I had experienced. Back in those days, I was using a Motorola TimePort which was an upgrade to the Star Trek Motorola phone. Of course, these phones had virtually no accessibility but, still they were usable. Sometime in 2007/2008 I switched to my first Windows Mobile phone. That was to be the beginning of a lot of changes in my life not the least of which was my subsequent association with Code Factory. Enter Mobile Geo; this onboard GPS software solution put the power of true independent GPS navigation for the blind and low vision on a cell phone. So, I put away my then outdated Trekker/Maestro PDA. Then, of course, came yet another game changer; the iPhone. For whatever reason I thought that either Code Factory's Mobile Geo or Humanware's Trekker would find its way to iOS. This, obviously, did not happen. As a result, since iPhone 3GS, I have purchased virtually every iOS GPS navigation software app in hopes of bringing the power of Geo or Trekker to a single mobile device. I shutter to think of all the money I have spent on this endeavor (smile). As far as off-the-shelf iOS GPS navigation solutions are concerned, I hold that A T T Wireless Navigator is the most accurate and easy-to-use app on the market. Recently, they added the ability to download the maps to your phone so you can now travel without benefit of a active satellite connection. I believe that the monthly cost for Navigator is $9.95. As wonderful as Navigator is, it falls short of meeting the one criteria I demand in order to recommend it, or any GPS app for that matter, as a solution for true independent navigation by the blind and low vision; said criteria being the ability to have streets, cross-streets, etc automatically announced without engaging any kind of route function or without having to touch, shake, or otherwise interact with the hardware device, itself. Until this past Thursday, my solution, when traveling independently, was to fire up my old beloved Samsung Epix, running Windows 6.1,
Re: copying and pasting
I only know how too select all and copy and paste it, as it's in the edit section of the roter, but need to know how to select letters and words etc. Very best wishes, Danielle On 9 May 2012, at 12:30 AM, Ramy Moustafa moshtaqlealga...@gmail.com wrote: Danniel: Please, how can I select the text and copy and paste it?/ Thanks in advance Cheers: Ramy Moustafa Owner and producer of Harmony recording studios skype: roma30 Facebook: moustafa.r...@gmail.com Twitter: Ramymoustafa youtube chanael: www.youtube.com/ramymoustafasaber -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Danielle McCullough Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 5:49 PM To: Viphone Subject: copying and pasting Hi guys, Can anyone please give me a dumby's guide to copying and pasting? I can select all and copy and paste, but can't seem to get it to select work by word, or line by line. I need to know, both how to do it wth a bluetooth keyboard and without. Really hope someone can help me. Best wishes, Danielle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Syncing without syncing contacts?
Hi, I do it with Google Contacts. I have my gmail account setup as an exchange account and I can sync calendar, contacts, and mail to my iPhone. This way I can update contacts from Thunderbird, Google's web site, or the phone, and it's all synced no matter what. Cheers. -- Raul A. Gallegos We used to have a chocolate Labrador.One day, it licked itself and died. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 5/8/2012 7:47 PM, Ramy Moustafa wrote: HI all: I need to ask the I tune not to sync the contacts from computer to my iphone, but I need to store my contacts in a safe place, other than my I phone, any ideas on how to achieve this? Cheers: Ramy Moustafa Owner and producer of Harmony recording studios skype: roma30 Facebook: moustafa.r...@gmail.com mailto:moustafa.r...@gmail.com Twitter: Ramymoustafa youtube chanael: www.youtube.com/ramymoustafasaber http://www.youtube.com/ramymoustafasaber -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Syncing without syncing contacts?
Ok, thanks so much, but how can I tell the I cloud to take the contacts? And notes? Calendar etc? Cheers: Ramy Moustafa Owner and producer of Harmony recording studios skype: roma30 Facebook: moustafa.r...@gmail.com Twitter: Ramymoustafa youtube chanael: www.youtube.com/ramymoustafasaber _ From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jesus Garcia Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 1:58 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Syncing without syncing contacts? The best place is to do it with the iCloud account. That way if anything happens to your phone you will have all the information accessible for another phone. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ramy Moustafa Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 19:48 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Syncing without syncing contacts? HI all: I need to ask the I tune not to sync the contacts from computer to my iphone, but I need to store my contacts in a safe place, other than my I phone, any ideas on how to achieve this? Cheers: Ramy Moustafa Owner and producer of Harmony recording studios skype: roma30 Facebook: moustafa.r...@gmail.com Twitter: Ramymoustafa youtube chanael: www.youtube.com/ramymoustafasaber -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Syncing without syncing contacts?
You need to set this up in settings now if you are talking about transferring the contacts from the nokia to the iPhone that is another question. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ramy Moustafa Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 20:22 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Syncing without syncing contacts? As a matter of fact, I tried to make this an di failed. How can I set this account on my phone, and got my contacts? My contacts r on my nokia phone right now. Cheers: Ramy Moustafa Owner and producer of Harmony recording studios skype: roma30 Facebook: moustafa.r...@gmail.com Twitter: Ramymoustafa youtube chanael: www.youtube.com/ramymoustafasaber -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 2:11 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Syncing without syncing contacts? Hi, I do it with Google Contacts. I have my gmail account setup as an exchange account and I can sync calendar, contacts, and mail to my iPhone. This way I can update contacts from Thunderbird, Google's web site, or the phone, and it's all synced no matter what. Cheers. -- Raul A. Gallegos We used to have a chocolate Labrador.One day, it licked itself and died. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 5/8/2012 7:47 PM, Ramy Moustafa wrote: HI all: I need to ask the I tune not to sync the contacts from computer to my iphone, but I need to store my contacts in a safe place, other than my I phone, any ideas on how to achieve this? Cheers: Ramy Moustafa Owner and producer of Harmony recording studios skype: roma30 Facebook: moustafa.r...@gmail.com mailto:moustafa.r...@gmail.com Twitter: Ramymoustafa youtube chanael: www.youtube.com/ramymoustafasaber http://www.youtube.com/ramymoustafasaber -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Finding Barcodes with Digit-Eyes
Hi, once digit eyes finds the bar code, is there to be a beep or something to indicate the code has been found. I am having problems getting any results with Digit eyes but I do know with p ractice I will get it. However, it is discouraging right now. Any help would be greatly appreciated. - Original Message - From: Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 11:31 AM Subject: Finding Barcodes with Digit-Eyes Hello Folks, I decided to see if there was some consistency on where the barcodes are located on cans, boxes, etc. For the most part, the seam overlapped to the left, the barcode was to the left of the seam about 1/2 from the bottom of the can or in the middle of the can. This is the same if the label on a can overlaps to the right where you can feel the edge of the label on the right side. Once in a while, I found the barcode in the middle of the can when the overlapping portion of the label was pointed to the left. This was on hot cocoa. With boxes, I looked for the top (to open the box) where the flap would be to get a directional sense. On the bottom of the package, it would be either on the left or right edge. However, I know in previous training for myself, the barcodes could be found on one of the sides of the box. I have more success when I move the phone slowly and wait for a click. As Nancy said, the camera needs to focus, so I give a couple of seconds in one location before moving the phone. I usually wait for a click before moving. Remember, you need to move the phone in a vertical direction and not horizontally. Also, I use my right thumb or index finger on the right upper corner of the phone to help line up the camera to make sure it is getting the area I think the barcode is in. My case for my phone has a nice rectangular opening to assist with lining it up with the item I am trying to scan. I am getting better with scanning regular objects, but like everything else, there will be a learning curve with it. I do advise to print out a practice sheet to master one's style in capturing the barcode. With items that have a label on two opposite sides, the smaller label is usually where one can find the barcode. If you are making audible labels, what I do is estimate where the middle of the label is, place the phone just below the upper edge, and then lift very slowly. I always use the right upper right corner and line it up using my fingers with the label. Again, I usually do not move the phone until I hear a click. This technique has help me master capturing the label with the barcode. I would only purchase Avery labels listed on the website, as I had problems getting Digit-Eyes to work with Staple labels. These are just my observations and I hope it helps others in using this wonderful app. Eileen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: finding bar codes
Thank you very much Nancy! - Original Message - From: Nancy M To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 10:21 AM Subject: Re: finding bar codes Here is a tutorial that we wrote about where the codes are: http://www.digit-eyes.com/cgi-bin/digiteyes.fcgi?action=scanningTips It would be great if they were consistent, but they are not. They are nicely put where people won't find them, but grocery store scanners will. Given that the scanners are no more than 6 inches tall and scan the bottom, back and sides of the item, you can pretty much bet they will be there. One of the things we do recommend doing is to print up a bunch of labels every time you do your shopping and put the purchase date on them (bought May 8, 2012). While you are unpacking the groceries, scan the item and put the date label close to where the manufacturer's UPC or EAN label is. Then when you go to scan again, you'll have a tactile indicator of where the code is and it becomes very simple to find. On Tuesday, May 8, 2012 7:19:24 AM UTC-5, dan thompson wrote: Hi All, I was told by a nother instructor that on cans the bar code is just to the right of the seem at the very bottom. If you are searching for a bar code on a box, it is usually on the end you don't open. On a package, it is usually right below the seal that you pull or tear p to open it. However, I am still having problems finding the bar code using digit eyes with this information. I would love someone to share their positive experiences and how it did work with them. Have a great day and Bod bless. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Ariadne and navigon questions
Hi All, I have finally got Navigon to work when walking or driving. However, I can not get Ariadne to work in the background to tell names of streets when passing them as some have said it will do. Can someone share a little kind help. Thanks a bunch. Dan Thompson dthomps...@mchsi.com this message has been scanned with microsoft security essentials -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Capitals and caps-lock
How do you turn it on. Andy From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jennie Facer Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 6:45 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Capitals and caps-lock A double tap on the shift button is the way to turn caps lock off. Hope this helps, Jenn To the world you are someone but to someone you are the world! On May 8, 2012, at 7:25 AM, Don Cher Bosch oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net wrote: On the password sign-in for updating an app on the iPhone, I could not get the shift to capitalize a letter. What is the procedure? Also, the caps-lock was engaged with a triple tap, but I could not toggle it back off with the same gesture. What is correct? Grateful for any help, Cher -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Capitals and caps-lock
How do you capitalize one letter? Andy From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Don Cher Bosch Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 9:20 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Capitals and caps-lock Totally! Thanks, Jen. Could not find it in the user Cher guide. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jennie Facer Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 9:45 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Capitals and caps-lock A double tap on the shift button is the way to turn caps lock off. Hope this helps, Jenn To the world you are someone but to someone you are the world! On May 8, 2012, at 7:25 AM, Don Cher Bosch oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net wrote: On the password sign-in for updating an app on the iPhone, I could not get the shift to capitalize a letter. What is the procedure? Also, the caps-lock was engaged with a triple tap, but I could not toggle it back off with the same gesture. What is correct? Grateful for any help, Cher -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Capitals and caps-lock
A single tap on the shift key will mean your next letter will be capitalized. You should hear cap A, cap S and so on after tapping the shift key. A double tap will toggle caps lock on and another double tap will toggle caps lock off. On 08/05/12 18:29, Andy Baracco wrote: How do you capitalize one letter? Andy *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Don Cher Bosch *Sent:* Tuesday, May 08, 2012 9:20 AM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* RE: Capitals and caps-lock Totally! Thanks, Jen. Could not find it in the user Cher guide. *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] mailto:[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Jennie Facer *Sent:* Tuesday, May 08, 2012 9:45 AM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: Capitals and caps-lock A double tap on the shift button is the way to turn caps lock off. Hope this helps, Jenn To the world you are someone but to someone you are the world! On May 8, 2012, at 7:25 AM, Don Cher Bosch oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net wrote: On the password sign-in for updating an app on the iPhone, I could not get the shift to capitalize a letter. What is the procedure? Also, the caps-lock was engaged with a triple tap, but I could not toggle it back off with the same gesture. What is correct? Grateful for any help, Cher -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- Christopher (CJ) chalt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Capitals and caps-lock
Activate the shift key by holding one finger on the screen once you've navigated to the shift key and tap with another finger and for all caps you can triple tap after hearing shift. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Finding Barcodes with Digit-Eyes
I totally concur with Eileen on this and I'll be writing it up and publishing it on our blog tomorrow. But the long and the short of it is that the Staple multipurpose laser/inkjet labels don't take a good enough image to be routinely scannable at small geometries like the 5160 label. The Avery ones work much better with laser printers. I also agree with her advice on scanning -- she is using the audible feedback from the system in a very smart way and it is clearly working well. On Tuesday, May 8, 2012 11:31:14 AM UTC-5, Eileen wrote: Hello Folks, I decided to see if there was some consistency on where the barcodes are located on cans, boxes, etc. For the most part, the seam overlapped to the left, the barcode was to the left of the seam about 1/2 from the bottom of the can or in the middle of the can. This is the same if the label on a can overlaps to the right where you can feel the edge of the label on the right side. Once in a while, I found the barcode in the middle of the can when the overlapping portion of the label was pointed to the left. This was on hot cocoa. With boxes, I looked for the top (to open the box) where the flap would be to get a directional sense. On the bottom of the package, it would be either on the left or right edge. However, I know in previous training for myself, the barcodes could be found on one of the sides of the box. I have more success when I move the phone slowly and wait for a click. As Nancy said, the camera needs to focus, so I give a couple of seconds in one location before moving the phone. I usually wait for a click before moving. Remember, you need to move the phone in a vertical direction and not horizontally. Also, I use my right thumb or index finger on the right upper corner of the phone to help line up the camera to make sure it is getting the area I think the barcode is in. My case for my phone has a nice rectangular opening to assist with lining it up with the item I am trying to scan. I am getting better with scanning regular objects, but like everything else, there will be a learning curve with it. I do advise to print out a practice sheet to master one's style in capturing the barcode. With items that have a label on two opposite sides, the smaller label is usually where one can find the barcode. If you are making audible labels, what I do is estimate where the middle of the label is, place the phone just below the upper edge, and then lift very slowly. I always use the right upper right corner and line it up using my fingers with the label. Again, I usually do not move the phone until I hear a click. This technique has help me master capturing the label with the barcode. I would only purchase Avery labels listed on the website, as I had problems getting Digit-Eyes to work with Staple labels. These are just my observations and I hope it helps others in using this wonderful app. Eileen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Finding Barcodes with Digit-Eyes
When Digit-Eyes starts scanning, it beeps and, if you have VO on, will announce scanning, tap twice to cancel During scanning, it makes a clicking noise so you know it is scanning. Please note that this is a timing marker for you, not an indication that pictures are being taken (Digit-Eyes analyzes the digital video stream, it does not take pictures) When Digit-Eyes finds a code, it beeps and also vibrates. If you have not tried the tutorials, we recommend doing so. I see that Eileen has also published some great tips about locating codes and scanning. On Tuesday, May 8, 2012 8:01:26 PM UTC-5, dan thompson wrote: Hi, once digit eyes finds the bar code, is there to be a beep or something to indicate the code has been found. I am having problems getting any results with Digit eyes but I do know with p ractice I will get it. However, it is discouraging right now. Any help would be greatly appreciated. - Original Message - From: Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 11:31 AM Subject: Finding Barcodes with Digit-Eyes Hello Folks, I decided to see if there was some consistency on where the barcodes are located on cans, boxes, etc. For the most part, the seam overlapped to the left, the barcode was to the left of the seam about 1/2 from the bottom of the can or in the middle of the can. This is the same if the label on a can overlaps to the right where you can feel the edge of the label on the right side. Once in a while, I found the barcode in the middle of the can when the overlapping portion of the label was pointed to the left. This was on hot cocoa. With boxes, I looked for the top (to open the box) where the flap would be to get a directional sense. On the bottom of the package, it would be either on the left or right edge. However, I know in previous training for myself, the barcodes could be found on one of the sides of the box. I have more success when I move the phone slowly and wait for a click. As Nancy said, the camera needs to focus, so I give a couple of seconds in one location before moving the phone. I usually wait for a click before moving. Remember, you need to move the phone in a vertical direction and not horizontally. Also, I use my right thumb or index finger on the right upper corner of the phone to help line up the camera to make sure it is getting the area I think the barcode is in. My case for my phone has a nice rectangular opening to assist with lining it up with the item I am trying to scan. I am getting better with scanning regular objects, but like everything else, there will be a learning curve with it. I do advise to print out a practice sheet to master one's style in capturing the barcode. With items that have a label on two opposite sides, the smaller label is usually where one can find the barcode. If you are making audible labels, what I do is estimate where the middle of the label is, place the phone just below the upper edge, and then lift very slowly. I always use the right upper right corner and line it up using my fingers with the label. Again, I usually do not move the phone until I hear a click. This technique has help me master capturing the label with the barcode. I would only purchase Avery labels listed on the website, as I had problems getting Digit-Eyes to work with Staple labels. These are just my observations and I hope it helps others in using this wonderful app. Eileen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. On Tuesday, May 8, 2012 8:01:26 PM UTC-5, dan thompson wrote: Hi, once digit eyes finds the bar code, is there to be a beep or something to indicate the code has been found. I am having problems getting any results with Digit eyes but I do know with p ractice I will get it. However, it is discouraging right now. Any help would be greatly appreciated. - Original Message - From: Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 11:31 AM Subject: Finding Barcodes with Digit-Eyes Hello Folks, I decided to see if there was some consistency on where the barcodes are located on cans, boxes, etc. For the most part, the seam overlapped to the left, the barcode was to the left of the seam about 1/2 from the bottom of the can or in the middle of the can. This is the same if the label on
Re: Mark On iPhone On Trekker Breeze
Hi Steve, It's possible that you got one of the older Trekker units. With those units, it took several minutes to acquire a signal. About 2 or 3 years ago, a more modern unit was released, and now satellite acquisition is much faster. This is the main reason I ultimately decided to purchase a Breeze late last year, as previously, I found the time it took to acquire a GPS fix to be too long. In most cases, acquisition happens within a minute. Also, the acquisition seems to be retained for a couple of hours after initial acquisition. What that means is if you turn off your unit, and then power it on within a couple of hours acquisition occurs immediately. ]Les On May 8, 2012, at 9:05 AM, Steve Robertson wrote: I purchased a breeze second hand. I really like it, except for the fact that it seems to take forever to obtain satellite service. Steve Original message: Thank you for the very kind and gracious reply, James. I can only speak for the Breeze as it functions today but I can tell you that, as a beta tester for both Geo and the original Trekker, the feature set is virtually identical to Geo and is definitely blind-friendly travel-centric. Having both the user guide and audio tutorial on my iPhone has made learning the Breeze convenient, fast, and fun. Mark -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:58 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mark On iPhone On Trekker Breeze Hi Mark, That is an interesting post and an entertaining read. Thanks for posting it. Personally I only consider the announcing of cross streats to be a nice to have and it would be a really nice to have, but it does not fit in the deal breaker catagory for me and I have been pretty happy with the IOS GPS offerings. Although my only blindness specialty GPS solution that I used at times in 2008 after receiving it was the Sendero ported to the VoiceSense. I kind of lost interest in it as it took so long to process anything and lost signal often with the receiver I had with it and fell behind quickly and never caught up on the Sendero upgrade path. I had always heard that the Breeze didn't really have the feature set for anyone so much of a power user as to have much interest in technology and was very simplified for those that did not want to have to be bothered with the technology. There is a place for that of course. Maybe it has evolved since then and has a nice feature set. All of this is very much up to someone's personal preferences what they want and like and works for them. On 5/7/12, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Hello Everyone, In 2005 I purchased my first GPS solution; it was the Trekker/Maestro Del 51 PDA from HumanWare. If memory serves, among other difficulties, the PDA did not have an Off button. When not in use, it had to be plugged into a charger to prevent power loss. Be that as it may, it was the most amazing piece of technology I had experienced. Back in those days, I was using a Motorola TimePort which was an upgrade to the Star Trek Motorola phone. Of course, these phones had virtually no accessibility but, still they were usable. Sometime in 2007/2008 I switched to my first Windows Mobile phone. That was to be the beginning of a lot of changes in my life not the least of which was my subsequent association with Code Factory. Enter Mobile Geo; this onboard GPS software solution put the power of true independent GPS navigation for the blind and low vision on a cell phone. So, I put away my then outdated Trekker/Maestro PDA. Then, of course, came yet another game changer; the iPhone. For whatever reason I thought that either Code Factory's Mobile Geo or Humanware's Trekker would find its way to iOS. This, obviously, did not happen. As a result, since iPhone 3GS, I have purchased virtually every iOS GPS navigation software app in hopes of bringing the power of Geo or Trekker to a single mobile device. I shutter to think of all the money I have spent on this endeavor (smile). As far as off-the-shelf iOS GPS navigation solutions are concerned, I hold that A T T Wireless Navigator is the most accurate and easy-to-use app on the market. Recently, they added the ability to download the maps to your phone so you can now travel without benefit of a active satellite connection. I believe that the monthly cost for Navigator is $9.95. As wonderful as Navigator is, it falls short of meeting the one criteria I demand in order to recommend it, or any GPS app for that matter, as a solution for true independent navigation by the blind and low vision; said criteria being the ability to have streets, cross-streets, etc automatically announced without engaging any kind of route function or without having to touch, shake, or otherwise interact with the hardware device, itself. Until this past
RE: Mark On iPhone On Trekker Breeze
I still have, and use my Trekker Maestro. I lost the Royaltek receiver in a cab last New Year's Eve, but replaced it with an Iblue 886 and it is still dynamite. Andy -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 8:35 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mark On iPhone On Trekker Breeze Hi Steve, It's possible that you got one of the older Trekker units. With those units, it took several minutes to acquire a signal. About 2 or 3 years ago, a more modern unit was released, and now satellite acquisition is much faster. This is the main reason I ultimately decided to purchase a Breeze late last year, as previously, I found the time it took to acquire a GPS fix to be too long. In most cases, acquisition happens within a minute. Also, the acquisition seems to be retained for a couple of hours after initial acquisition. What that means is if you turn off your unit, and then power it on within a couple of hours acquisition occurs immediately. ]Les On May 8, 2012, at 9:05 AM, Steve Robertson wrote: I purchased a breeze second hand. I really like it, except for the fact that it seems to take forever to obtain satellite service. Steve Original message: Thank you for the very kind and gracious reply, James. I can only speak for the Breeze as it functions today but I can tell you that, as a beta tester for both Geo and the original Trekker, the feature set is virtually identical to Geo and is definitely blind-friendly travel-centric. Having both the user guide and audio tutorial on my iPhone has made learning the Breeze convenient, fast, and fun. Mark -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:58 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mark On iPhone On Trekker Breeze Hi Mark, That is an interesting post and an entertaining read. Thanks for posting it. Personally I only consider the announcing of cross streats to be a nice to have and it would be a really nice to have, but it does not fit in the deal breaker catagory for me and I have been pretty happy with the IOS GPS offerings. Although my only blindness specialty GPS solution that I used at times in 2008 after receiving it was the Sendero ported to the VoiceSense. I kind of lost interest in it as it took so long to process anything and lost signal often with the receiver I had with it and fell behind quickly and never caught up on the Sendero upgrade path. I had always heard that the Breeze didn't really have the feature set for anyone so much of a power user as to have much interest in technology and was very simplified for those that did not want to have to be bothered with the technology. There is a place for that of course. Maybe it has evolved since then and has a nice feature set. All of this is very much up to someone's personal preferences what they want and like and works for them. On 5/7/12, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Hello Everyone, In 2005 I purchased my first GPS solution; it was the Trekker/Maestro Del 51 PDA from HumanWare. If memory serves, among other difficulties, the PDA did not have an Off button. When not in use, it had to be plugged into a charger to prevent power loss. Be that as it may, it was the most amazing piece of technology I had experienced. Back in those days, I was using a Motorola TimePort which was an upgrade to the Star Trek Motorola phone. Of course, these phones had virtually no accessibility but, still they were usable. Sometime in 2007/2008 I switched to my first Windows Mobile phone. That was to be the beginning of a lot of changes in my life not the least of which was my subsequent association with Code Factory. Enter Mobile Geo; this onboard GPS software solution put the power of true independent GPS navigation for the blind and low vision on a cell phone. So, I put away my then outdated Trekker/Maestro PDA. Then, of course, came yet another game changer; the iPhone. For whatever reason I thought that either Code Factory's Mobile Geo or Humanware's Trekker would find its way to iOS. This, obviously, did not happen. As a result, since iPhone 3GS, I have purchased virtually every iOS GPS navigation software app in hopes of bringing the power of Geo or Trekker to a single mobile device. I shutter to think of all the money I have spent on this endeavor (smile). As far as off-the-shelf iOS GPS navigation solutions are concerned, I hold that A T T Wireless Navigator is the most accurate and easy-to-use app on the market. Recently, they added the ability to download the maps to your phone so you can now travel without benefit of a active satellite connection. I believe that the monthly cost for Navigator is $9.95. As wonderful as Navigator is, it falls
