RE: Contacts database

2012-06-18 Thread Godwin Adoyi
Hi Dave,
I've done it that way, the result was that vo will mention the name of the
sender of a message but will not mention the name of the caller. This is
because the incoming calls are without international prefix/code. I didn't
have this problem when I was using Nokia e7. I hope Apple has rectified this
in ios 6? Meanwhile, I'll do what someone in this lists suggested, to
duplicate the number ( one with international/code and other without ). 
Thanks for your contribution.
Godwin  

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of David Chittenden
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 8:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Contacts database

Hello,

Actually, just place +(country code)(phone number) one time per number. You
can then use it anywhere in the world you have phone signal. This method
even works with VOIP dialling services.

Examples:
The country code is +1 in the US, so the number in contacts would be
+1551212 which the phone will then display as +1--555-1212.
I live in NZ with country code +64. Thus, my mobile number is entered as
+64212288288 which is displayed as +64 21 228 8288 in contacts.


David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 18/06/2012, at 6:37, Godwin Adoyi gad...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 This is clever but it's tedious as my contact is over 600. If there is 
 no other way,  then I'm left with no choice but to do it that way.
 Thanks,
 Godwin . 
 
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 Behalf Of AppleGourmet
 Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 6:17 PM
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 Subject: Contacts database
 
 Hi!
 One work around solution would be to have both numbers in your database.
 That means had the number with the international prefix and the number 
 without the international prefix  in the contact information. This 
 should solve your problem exclamation please let me know if it works 
 for you. It does for me!
 Best wishes!
 
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Re: Contacts database

2012-06-18 Thread David Chittenden
Hello,

I am in New Zealand, and it works fine here. VO always announces the name of 
the caller if in my contacts. Also, the last time I was in the states last 
October, VO announced the names of my callers if in contacts. I am using an 
iPhone 4 running iOS 5.1.1.

In other words, I am not experiencing the problem you have when using the 
international + dialling sequence. What carrier are you using? I use Vodafone 
here in NZ, and was on ATT in the states.


David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 18/06/2012, at 18:20, Godwin Adoyi gad...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Dave,
 I've done it that way, the result was that vo will mention the name of the
 sender of a message but will not mention the name of the caller. This is
 because the incoming calls are without international prefix/code. I didn't
 have this problem when I was using Nokia e7. I hope Apple has rectified this
 in ios 6? Meanwhile, I'll do what someone in this lists suggested, to
 duplicate the number ( one with international/code and other without ). 
 Thanks for your contribution.
 Godwin  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of David Chittenden
 Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 8:21 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Contacts database
 
 Hello,
 
 Actually, just place +(country code)(phone number) one time per number. You
 can then use it anywhere in the world you have phone signal. This method
 even works with VOIP dialling services.
 
 Examples:
 The country code is +1 in the US, so the number in contacts would be
 +1551212 which the phone will then display as +1--555-1212.
 I live in NZ with country code +64. Thus, my mobile number is entered as
 +64212288288 which is displayed as +64 21 228 8288 in contacts.
 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 18/06/2012, at 6:37, Godwin Adoyi gad...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 This is clever but it's tedious as my contact is over 600. If there is 
 no other way,  then I'm left with no choice but to do it that way.
 Thanks,
 Godwin . 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of AppleGourmet
 Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 6:17 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Contacts database
 
 Hi!
 One work around solution would be to have both numbers in your database.
 That means had the number with the international prefix and the number 
 without the international prefix  in the contact information. This 
 should solve your problem exclamation please let me know if it works 
 for you. It does for me!
 Best wishes!
 
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Re: New IOS Game

2012-06-18 Thread Brett
Hi, 

Thanks for sharing this. This is a great game! I got to level. 19with my first 
go. We need more games like this. 

Sent from Brett's iPhone

On 18/06/2012, at 12:59 PM, Blinkin blinkin4...@gmail.com wrote:

 All,
This game is called Where's my Rubber Ducky.
You use 3D audio, put your headphones in, spin around and tab the screen 
 the shoot zombies that are walking toward you.
It is free in the app store. It uses the compass and GPS to tell how you 
 are turning and what direction your facing.
I am downloading it now because it sounds fun and is free so why not.
Here is where I found it
 http://applevis.com/ion-app-directory/games/wheres-my-rubber-ducky-shooter
 
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Re: Shortcut for typing a period ?

2012-06-18 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi Suzanne, in short, double-tap and hold makes the keyboard change 
temporarily to the numbers keyboard with the common symbols. The period 
is where the z key is and the comma is where the x key is. So, if you 
double-tap and hold the numbers button, drag your finger to the location 
of the z and you will see it's a period, list your finger and a period 
will be entered, or do the same with a comma or a number. When you do it 
this way, the keyboard immediately returns back to letters when 
finished. This is why it's only useful if you will be doing 1 or 2 
symbols or numbers in your writing.


I hope that makes sense.

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On 6/18/2012 1:06 AM, Suzanne Wilson wrote:

Raul,

What does holding down the more numbers button do?  When I double tap
and hold it, I'm not seeing anything.  What am I missing?

Suzanne

- Original Message - From: Raul A. Gallegos
r...@raulgallegos.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: Shortcut for typing a period ?



Hi, glad this trick works for you as well. If I'm going to type a
comma or just one or two numbers, or one or two symbols, the
double-tap and hold is faster than double-tapping the more numbers
button and finding what I want. However if I'm going to type a phone
number, address, or something which requires more use of the screen
with symbols, then I just double-tap the more numbers button like normal.

This is a trick I learned a while back on a blog of neat iPhone tips
and tricks.

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On 6/17/2012 2:12 AM, AppleGourmet wrote:

Raul !! You are a genius!! Using double tap and hold on  the more
numbers key and getting the period is brilliant. It really works
well. Not only can I get a period but I can also get , ? Et cetera.
thank you very very much! You'll have changed my life!!



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Re: Ring tones without using iTunes

2012-06-18 Thread Paul Ferrara
All, I found an app called 10,000 ringtones; does anyone have a better app 
suggestion for buying premade tones?


Paul
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: Ring tones without using iTunes



The bottom line is - No!   So many have asked this and we discussed it so
often;  and this is where we have always ended up.  Sorry, not least cos
it's what I always wanted to do,  had to just buy one like everyone else 
in

the end.
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 5:10 PM
Subject: Ring tones without using iTunes


Hi.

Is there any way to use email or dropbox to get a ring tone to the iPhone
without having to fuss with iTunes?







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Re: Navigon

2012-06-18 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Richard, but what about recommending Navigon for those who live in areas 
where the maps do work for them? I mean, Oregon isn't the center of the 
universe... Right? Seriously though, I can understand where you come 
from in that if a product isn't accurate and the people you are making 
recommendations to live in the area, then you are right that it's not a 
viable solution.


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On 6/17/2012 9:22 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

The fact that Navigon thinks that I live in Lake Jeanclia, Oregon, is a problem.
I am in Portland and there is no lake jeanclia in Oregon and I get no reply 
from their support people.
So i cannot recommend navigon to anyone.
Richard


(Sent from my iPhone)

On Jun 17, 2012, at 5:23 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote:


Right, but mapquest also relies on data connection at all times where as 
Navigon does not. That was my only point. Mapquest is very good as well. Good 
thing there are always choices. I just don't get what the fuss with people not 
liking Navigon is.

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On 6/17/2012 1:33 AM, curmudgeon wrote:

ddont bother buy ing navigon
get mapquest
its easier to use


today is worst,
than yesterday,
but, not as bad,
as tomorrow ,
o, m, g,

On Jun 14, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:

I asked the question about Navigon versus IOS 6 Maps a few days ago, and
one difference that Raul pointed out, is that Maps in IOS 6 will need a
data connection while Navigon will use locally stored maps. This will
mean that you'll eat up your data plan if you're out and about using
Maps. For this reason, it may still make sense to purchase Navigon.

On 14/06/12 17:22, Mike Cassidy wrote:

Hi Folks,

I'm wondering about purchasing Navigon, but see that its review rating is
only 2 stars; is this a true reflection of the app's value, or do people
find Navigon worth the expenditure?

Secondly, is the navigation app in IOS6 going to be a replacement for
Navigon or similar?

Thanks for your thoughts,

Regards,

Mike






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Re: Ootunes Recordings (was stereo recording (was Recorder suggestions))

2012-06-18 Thread Carol Pearson

Yes, it is available for Windows also.

I've looked at it and it looks like something we all ought to have ... but 
does it really work?


I'd value any feedback from anyone who's already tried it or gets round to 
it before I do!  Smiles


Carol P
 Original Message 
From: Courtney Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: Ootunes Recordings (was stereo recording (was
Recorder suggestions))


Hi,
Actually, this isn't exactly the case, at least on the
mac. There's an app from digidna called Disc Aid. I think
they make it for windows too. There's a checkbox under
the advanced tab in the settings, it says something like
show apps even if sharing isn't enabled. Check that box,
then you can get your ootunes recordings. I was so happy
when I got that app.
Hope this helps,
Courtney
On Jun 16, 2012, at 10:41 PM, Brett wrote:



 Hi.

 The only way to transfer ootunes recordings to the pc
 is to be jailbrokdn. Sent from Brett's iPhone

 On 17/06/2012, at 9:32 AM, Fonarak
 fona...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi. On the subject of Ootunes, anyone know how to get
 those recordings, via
 the PC, perhaps? Can I do it with Phone Disk or
 similar? If so, where will I
 find the files, please? Someone wants a program I
 recorded the other day,
 but I haven't worked out how to get it for them yet.

 Thanks.

 Fi

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Jonathan Mosen
 Sent: 16 June 2012 23:01
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: stereo recording (was Recorder
 suggestions)

 Ootunes can do what it does because it is simply
 dumping the data stream it
 is receiving over the Internet to a file. It isn't
 possible to record
 directly from the iPhone's audio output, because the
 hardware isn't capable
 of doing so.

 Jonathan

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Anthony Vece
 Sent: Sunday, 17 June 2012 9:58 a.m.
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: stereo recording (was Recorder
 suggestions)

 Hi FI;

 I don't think this is the type of recording I had in
 mind.
 Let me explain further.

 The ootunes app records what it hears automatically.
 I don't believe it uses a mic because the recording
 quality is too good.

 In other words I would like to record music that is
 being played on my
 iPhone 4S.

 I hope my explanation was precise.

 Anthony

 Sent from my Verizon iPhone!

 On Jun 16, 2012, at 5:40 PM, Fonarak
 fona...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi Anthony. Just be aware that you need something
 like a Tascam IM2 or
 a Fostex AR4I to get the phone to record in stereo,
 as it only has a mono microphone. They are both
 fantastic, but I really recommend the Fostex,
 although it is a bit big, so it depends what your
 priorities are.

 The Tascam is good because it will also work with an
 iPad. Also, the Fostex will only work with the iPhone
 4 and 4s, because it cradles the phone, or iPod
 Touch. My Dad has an iPhone 3gs and we tried to fit
 it in, but it was too big. Just mentioning this, as
 not sure which iPhone you have, plus might be useful
 for others to know.

 Not sure if earlier iPod Touches fit in the Fostex or
 not, as both
 mine are quite new. Yes ... I said both!!!

 Fi

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
 Anthony Vece
 Sent: 16 June 2012 22:03
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Recorder suggestions

 Thank you Eric.
 I'll download it and, put it through its paces.

 Thanks Again
 Anthony


 Sent from my Verizon iPhone!

 On Jun 16, 2012, at 4:33 PM, Eric Caron
 ecar...@comcast.net wrote:

 Hi Anthony,

 List Recorder settings allow for high quality
 recording up to CD quality.
 I would expect your results would only be limited by
 the iPhone and other hardware.  .  List Recorder is
 set up to allow stereo recording.
 I suspect others could comment better on your
 question as I have
 only
 used the recorder for spoken sounds.

 Eric Caron
 On Jun 16, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Anthony Vece wrote:

 Will this app let you record music in high quality?


 Sent from my Verizon iPhone!

 On Jun 16, 2012, at 9:33 AM, Eric Caron
 eric.caro...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Fonarak

 In List Recorder Full version, the recording times
 do not have a limit.
 Only your Device memory will limit the size.
 Yes, List Recorder lets you send the recording by
 email as a
 attachment.

 Currently List Recorder does not have editing
 functions.  I say
 currently because the app developer is constantly
 updating and
 improving the app.  With each new version large
 feature improvements
 happen.

 And,  the app is being strongly supported and user
 feature requests are
 being worked on!

 Eric Caron

 On Jun 15, 2012, at 7:31 PM, Fonarak wrote:

 Cool! Can I edit with it as well? Would be great
 to be able to
 chop bits of rubbish off the start, or end, 

Re: Shortcut for typing a period ?

2012-06-18 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
What do you mean does it work with text? If you mean when you are 
texting, yes. It works whenever the keyboard is present. When you 
double-tap and hold the more numbers button, you will hear something 
like alternative characters available. Without lifting your finger, 
slide it to where the z key is and lift. Now you have a period.


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On 6/18/2012 7:26 AM, Jodi Cowle wrote:

Double tap and hold with one finger? Does this work with text? I can't get it 
to work.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 18, 2012, at 6:05 AM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote:


Hi Suzanne, in short, double-tap and hold makes the keyboard change temporarily 
to the numbers keyboard with the common symbols. The period is where the z key 
is and the comma is where the x key is. So, if you double-tap and hold the 
numbers button, drag your finger to the location of the z and you will see it's 
a period, list your finger and a period will be entered, or do the same with a 
comma or a number. When you do it this way, the keyboard immediately returns 
back to letters when finished. This is why it's only useful if you will be 
doing 1 or 2 symbols or numbers in your writing.

I hope that makes sense.

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On 6/18/2012 1:06 AM, Suzanne Wilson wrote:

Raul,

What does holding down the more numbers button do?  When I double tap
and hold it, I'm not seeing anything.  What am I missing?

Suzanne

- Original Message - From: Raul A. Gallegos
r...@raulgallegos.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: Shortcut for typing a period ?



Hi, glad this trick works for you as well. If I'm going to type a
comma or just one or two numbers, or one or two symbols, the
double-tap and hold is faster than double-tapping the more numbers
button and finding what I want. However if I'm going to type a phone
number, address, or something which requires more use of the screen
with symbols, then I just double-tap the more numbers button like normal.

This is a trick I learned a while back on a blog of neat iPhone tips
and tricks.

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On 6/17/2012 2:12 AM, AppleGourmet wrote:

Raul !! You are a genius!! Using double tap and hold on  the more
numbers key and getting the period is brilliant. It really works
well. Not only can I get a period but I can also get , ? Et cetera.
thank you very very much! You'll have changed my life!!



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THINKING ABOUT A MAC!

2012-06-18 Thread Carol Pearson

Hi all,

The time is coming now to replace my current desktop and I'm thinking about 
a Mac.


Seriously, though, can you really work as quickly when it comes to editing 
docs?


What is out there that will work for database and word processing that will 
give you the full functionality you expect?


Carol P

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RE: Tactile Screen Overlay, Or Not?

2012-06-18 Thread Amy Billman
Sandy,
I type in portrait mode and use one finger.


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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sandy Finley
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 2:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Tactile Screen Overlay, Or Not?

Amy, just how do you type? Do you use one hand or two, one finger or two?
Do you use landscape or portrait? If you are able to type that well on the
screen I am interested in how you do it. I'm sure willing to give it a try
and see if your method works for me!

Sandy
  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Amy Billman
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 12:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Tactile Screen Overlay, Or Not?

I do like the fact that I can type completely by touch without voiceover and
that I can truly use my phone, without the need of lugging around a
Bluetooth keyboard and that I can type 60 WPM on my iPhone.
Yes I make them and sell them, so this may seem a bit not quite objective,
but we all used them and gave them away for testing prior to selling them.
If they hadn't taken off, we'd have no company.
They aren't for everyone which is quite true, but then again, neither is an
iOS device. *smile* It's nice to have choices. I love my bluetooth keyboard,
especially if I'm sending a lot of very long emails, but it's not a need
anymore because of the overlay.
It's $7. Most would spend that on a meal or something, so the price point is
affordable where keyboards cost much more.
Amy Billman
Check out my company for your screen protector and phone accessory needs!
SpeedDots: the makers of the tactile screen protector
http://www.SpeedDots.com Follow us on Twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/SpeedDots
Like us on Facebook:
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rob Harris
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 12:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tactile Screen Overlay, Or Not?

I bought both, one with lots of dots and one with few;  tried and took them
off pretty soon and didn't use them since.  You feel about a bit to start
with, but you get good at hitting the right spot after a while, like a good
pianist does.  And if you neeed  to write that much, most get a real BT
keyboard and type on that.  Given the price of those overlays, and the
starting price of a BT keyboard;  you're half way towards the real kb for 
the cost of those bits of cutout plastic. BGut each to their own;   the 
TypeInBraille has complicated this question a bit too as some have got quite

efficient typists on that and transfer the text to the necesssary app after
they wrote it.

They might be good for an absolute novice, but most soon grow out of them
and it has been argued that starting on them only creates the dependence
they wouldn't otherwise have if they learnt from the beginning as-is so to
speak.
- Original Message -
From: Arnold Schmidt arno...@mindspring.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 11:26 PM
Subject: Tactile Screen Overlay, Or Not?


I was talking to a coworker today, who recommended that if I get a phone, I
get one of the tactile screen overlays.  He said it makes it a lot easier
for him to know where to touch the screen.  I realize that opinions are
probably as numerous as the number of people asked, but I thought I would
ask anyway.  If you have one, as you have gotten use to using your phone,
has it gotten in the way more than helped?  If so, is it easy to get off the

phone?  Thanks for any opinions.

Arnold Schmidt

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temporarily stopping posts

2012-06-18 Thread Martin Nelson
Hi, everyone: I will be going on vacation and I need to stop the sending of 
the posts from this list due to the large volume. Apparently the Google page 
has changed because I cannot find the option to have messages not sent, only 
to be read on the web.

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Re: temporarily stopping posts

2012-06-18 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi, if you set your subscription to be only read on the web, that's what 
vacation mode is in terms you are probably thinking of. If you set it to 
only read on the web, it means you are still subscribed, but you don't 
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On 6/18/2012 8:16 AM, Martin Nelson wrote:

Hi, everyone: I will be going on vacation and I need to stop the sending
of the posts from this list due to the large volume. Apparently the
Google page has changed because I cannot find the option to have
messages not sent, only to be read on the web.
I would appreciate any help.
Thank you.
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Re: Editing text in iPhone

2012-06-18 Thread Lea Langley
Hi all, I have trouble with the delete part of editing. I never can seem to get 
the cursor in the right place to delete the right character. I would really 
appreciate some help on this. Thank you so much for everything to all of you on 
the list. God bless, Wren

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 17, 2012, at 6:39 PM, hunter weeksca...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Should I do a recording of me editing text on my I touch and or iPad?
 Editing on any iOS device works the same. If so, I will in a few days
 when I get back to the place where I left my recorder. This is
 assuming that nothing comes up, and y'all want a recording. Oh yes,
 I'm typing this on the screen of my iPad. LOL.
 
 David Chittenden wrote:
 Yep, anything is a royal pain until you practice and get good at it. I do 
 most of my writing on my iPhone, even the initial drafts of my research 
 papers.
 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 17/06/2012, at 11:36, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Well, I don't do a lot of it because I don't write long messages on the 
 phone, but I do know that control C and control V still work as they do in 
 Windows.  Sorry, I just do not use the phone for a writing tool and one 
 reason is because editing is a royal pain, if I ever get Siri things might 
 change but then maybe not.
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Tom Lange
 Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:10 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone
 
 Hi,
 How do you do text selecttion with a bluetooth keyboard, and by what units 
 of text can you select?
 
 Thanks.
 Tom
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Rose Combs
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 9:26 AM
 Subject: RE: Editing text in iPhone
 
 The edit function and cut and paste on the phone itself is junk, said from 
 someone who much prefers using a keyboard when needing to edit where ctrl v 
 and c work and where deleting works with separate keys so you know exactly 
 if you are going the right direction.  I very much hate editing on the 
 phone itself, if Vokul makes a mistake, in fact, I just leave it there, and 
 if I make a horrible on typing I just delete the whole thing and try again. 
  I don't do lengthy messages or e-mail on the phone, only mail I get is to 
 send phone numbers to the address connected to the phone because reading 
 e-mail on the phone is not for me at least a pleasant experience.  I have 
 lots of uses for the phone but editing, cutting and pasting are not among 
 them unless I am bored and feel I have nothing else to do.
 
 I like the phone and it goes everywhere with me but those functions and the 
 rotors are my least favorite.  Practice in those cases does not make 
 perfect, just frustration.
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Chuck Dean
 Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 2:01 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone
 
 Yes, as above, make sure you are going in the right direction.
 
 When I first got my iPhone I thought the edit function was junk until I 
 realized my mistake.
 Chuck
 
 On Friday, June 15, 2012 1:49:54 PM UTC-7, Rahul Bajaj wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I often get really confused when I try to edit the text that I've typed.
 For example, when I want to edit a text message, I swipe down with one
 finger and VO reads the text character by character.
 Now, if I want to delete a character, I double tap  the  delete button.
 So, sometimes the character that VO last spoke gets deleted and at
 other times the character which was immediately before the character
 that VO last spoke gets deleted.
 So, how exactly does this work?
 Let's say I've made a spelling mistake and have written my name as R A
 H O U L instead of R A H U L.
 So, where should I press the delete button to delete the O?
 
 Thanks in advance for your assistance.
 
 Best,
 Rahul
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Re: Shortcut for typing a period ?

2012-06-18 Thread Jodi Cowle
I did mean texting. I should never do anything before having my coffee. Thanks.
Jodi

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 18, 2012, at 6:31 AM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote:

 What do you mean does it work with text? If you mean when you are texting, 
 yes. It works whenever the keyboard is present. When you double-tap and hold 
 the more numbers button, you will hear something like alternative characters 
 available. Without lifting your finger, slide it to where the z key is and 
 lift. Now you have a period.
 
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 On 6/18/2012 7:26 AM, Jodi Cowle wrote:
 Double tap and hold with one finger? Does this work with text? I can't get 
 it to work.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 18, 2012, at 6:05 AM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Suzanne, in short, double-tap and hold makes the keyboard change 
 temporarily to the numbers keyboard with the common symbols. The period is 
 where the z key is and the comma is where the x key is. So, if you 
 double-tap and hold the numbers button, drag your finger to the location of 
 the z and you will see it's a period, list your finger and a period will be 
 entered, or do the same with a comma or a number. When you do it this way, 
 the keyboard immediately returns back to letters when finished. This is why 
 it's only useful if you will be doing 1 or 2 symbols or numbers in your 
 writing.
 
 I hope that makes sense.
 
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 that's as good as they're going to feel all day. - Frank Sinatra
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 On 6/18/2012 1:06 AM, Suzanne Wilson wrote:
 Raul,
 
 What does holding down the more numbers button do?  When I double tap
 and hold it, I'm not seeing anything.  What am I missing?
 
 Suzanne
 
 - Original Message - From: Raul A. Gallegos
 r...@raulgallegos.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 8:37 PM
 Subject: Re: Shortcut for typing a period ?
 
 
 Hi, glad this trick works for you as well. If I'm going to type a
 comma or just one or two numbers, or one or two symbols, the
 double-tap and hold is faster than double-tapping the more numbers
 button and finding what I want. However if I'm going to type a phone
 number, address, or something which requires more use of the screen
 with symbols, then I just double-tap the more numbers button like normal.
 
 This is a trick I learned a while back on a blog of neat iPhone tips
 and tricks.
 
 --
 Raul A. Gallegos
 There's a fine line between fishing and standing on the shore looking
 like an idiot. - Steven Wright
 Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
 Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74
 
 
 On 6/17/2012 2:12 AM, AppleGourmet wrote:
 Raul !! You are a genius!! Using double tap and hold on  the more
 numbers key and getting the period is brilliant. It really works
 well. Not only can I get a period but I can also get , ? Et cetera.
 thank you very very much! You'll have changed my life!!
 
 
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Re: Tactile Screen Overlay, Or Not?

2012-06-18 Thread Peter Lane
Amy, Do you carry any overlay products for the iPad?
Pete
Sent from my iPad

On Jun 18, 2012, at 8:15 AM, Amy Billman amy0...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sandy,
 I type in portrait mode and use one finger.
 
 
 Amy Billman
 Check out my company for your screen protector and phone accessory needs!
 SpeedDots: the makers of the tactile screen protector
 http://www.SpeedDots.com
 Follow us on Twitter:
 http://www.twitter.com/SpeedDots
 Like us on Facebook:
 http://www.facebook.com/SpeedDots
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Sandy Finley
 Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 2:57 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Tactile Screen Overlay, Or Not?
 
 Amy, just how do you type? Do you use one hand or two, one finger or two?
 Do you use landscape or portrait? If you are able to type that well on the
 screen I am interested in how you do it. I'm sure willing to give it a try
 and see if your method works for me!
 
 Sandy
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Amy Billman
 Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 12:33 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Tactile Screen Overlay, Or Not?
 
 I do like the fact that I can type completely by touch without voiceover and
 that I can truly use my phone, without the need of lugging around a
 Bluetooth keyboard and that I can type 60 WPM on my iPhone.
 Yes I make them and sell them, so this may seem a bit not quite objective,
 but we all used them and gave them away for testing prior to selling them.
 If they hadn't taken off, we'd have no company.
 They aren't for everyone which is quite true, but then again, neither is an
 iOS device. *smile* It's nice to have choices. I love my bluetooth keyboard,
 especially if I'm sending a lot of very long emails, but it's not a need
 anymore because of the overlay.
 It's $7. Most would spend that on a meal or something, so the price point is
 affordable where keyboards cost much more.
 Amy Billman
 Check out my company for your screen protector and phone accessory needs!
 SpeedDots: the makers of the tactile screen protector
 http://www.SpeedDots.com Follow us on Twitter:
 http://www.twitter.com/SpeedDots
 Like us on Facebook:
 http://www.facebook.com/SpeedDots
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Rob Harris
 Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 12:43 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Tactile Screen Overlay, Or Not?
 
 I bought both, one with lots of dots and one with few;  tried and took them
 off pretty soon and didn't use them since.  You feel about a bit to start
 with, but you get good at hitting the right spot after a while, like a good
 pianist does.  And if you neeed  to write that much, most get a real BT
 keyboard and type on that.  Given the price of those overlays, and the
 starting price of a BT keyboard;  you're half way towards the real kb for 
 the cost of those bits of cutout plastic. BGut each to their own;   the 
 TypeInBraille has complicated this question a bit too as some have got quite
 
 efficient typists on that and transfer the text to the necesssary app after
 they wrote it.
 
 They might be good for an absolute novice, but most soon grow out of them
 and it has been argued that starting on them only creates the dependence
 they wouldn't otherwise have if they learnt from the beginning as-is so to
 speak.
 - Original Message -
 From: Arnold Schmidt arno...@mindspring.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 11:26 PM
 Subject: Tactile Screen Overlay, Or Not?
 
 
 I was talking to a coworker today, who recommended that if I get a phone, I
 get one of the tactile screen overlays.  He said it makes it a lot easier
 for him to know where to touch the screen.  I realize that opinions are
 probably as numerous as the number of people asked, but I thought I would
 ask anyway.  If you have one, as you have gotten use to using your phone,
 has it gotten in the way more than helped?  If so, is it easy to get off the
 
 phone?  Thanks for any opinions.
 
 Arnold Schmidt
 
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RE: New IOS Game

2012-06-18 Thread Michael Malver
I doubt the developer would want to make a separate version without the
profanity.  It could be that if you suggested that a configuration setting
be created to allow or disallow profanity, that sort of modification would
be considered.
Just a thought.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Lea Langley
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 6:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New IOS Game

Hi all, thank you for telling us about this game. Just to let you know
though, this game does have profanity. I chose personally not to play it
because of that, so I thought I would let you all know. I hope they make one
without the profanity. It sounds like it would be fun. Bye. God bless. Wren

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 17, 2012, at 9:59 PM, Blinkin blinkin4...@gmail.com wrote:

 All,
This game is called Where's my Rubber Ducky.
You use 3D audio, put your headphones in, spin around and tab the
screen the shoot zombies that are walking toward you.
It is free in the app store. It uses the compass and GPS to tell how
you are turning and what direction your facing.
I am downloading it now because it sounds fun and is free so why not.
Here is where I found it
 http://applevis.com/ion-app-directory/games/wheres-my-rubber-ducky-shooter
 
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Re: Editing text in iPhone

2012-06-18 Thread Eric SS
Isn't everything old new again fairly quickly these days? This question was 
just discussed, hashed and rehashed two days ago.

Please take a look at the archives.

 

Telephone: (614)522-9725 
Skype: sseric57


On Jun 18, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Lea Langley wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

Hi all, I have trouble with the delete part of editing. I never can seem to get 
the cursor in the right place to delete the right character. I would really 
appreciate some help on this. Thank you so much for everything to all of you on 
the list. God bless, Wren

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 17, 2012, at 6:39 PM, hunter weeksca...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Should I do a recording of me editing text on my I touch and or iPad?
 Editing on any iOS device works the same. If so, I will in a few days
 when I get back to the place where I left my recorder. This is
 assuming that nothing comes up, and y'all want a recording. Oh yes,
 I'm typing this on the screen of my iPad. LOL.
 
 David Chittenden wrote:
 Yep, anything is a royal pain until you practice and get good at it. I do 
 most of my writing on my iPhone, even the initial drafts of my research 
 papers.
 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 17/06/2012, at 11:36, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Well, I don't do a lot of it because I don't write long messages on the 
 phone, but I do know that control C and control V still work as they do in 
 Windows.  Sorry, I just do not use the phone for a writing tool and one 
 reason is because editing is a royal pain, if I ever get Siri things might 
 change but then maybe not.
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Tom Lange
 Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:10 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone
 
 Hi,
 How do you do text selecttion with a bluetooth keyboard, and by what units 
 of text can you select?
 
 Thanks.
 Tom
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Rose Combs
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 9:26 AM
 Subject: RE: Editing text in iPhone
 
 The edit function and cut and paste on the phone itself is junk, said from 
 someone who much prefers using a keyboard when needing to edit where ctrl v 
 and c work and where deleting works with separate keys so you know exactly 
 if you are going the right direction.  I very much hate editing on the 
 phone itself, if Vokul makes a mistake, in fact, I just leave it there, and 
 if I make a horrible on typing I just delete the whole thing and try again. 
  I don't do lengthy messages or e-mail on the phone, only mail I get is to 
 send phone numbers to the address connected to the phone because reading 
 e-mail on the phone is not for me at least a pleasant experience.  I have 
 lots of uses for the phone but editing, cutting and pasting are not among 
 them unless I am bored and feel I have nothing else to do.
 
 I like the phone and it goes everywhere with me but those functions and the 
 rotors are my least favorite.  Practice in those cases does not make 
 perfect, just frustration.
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Chuck Dean
 Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 2:01 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone
 
 Yes, as above, make sure you are going in the right direction.
 
 When I first got my iPhone I thought the edit function was junk until I 
 realized my mistake.
 Chuck
 
 On Friday, June 15, 2012 1:49:54 PM UTC-7, Rahul Bajaj wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I often get really confused when I try to edit the text that I've typed.
 For example, when I want to edit a text message, I swipe down with one
 finger and VO reads the text character by character.
 Now, if I want to delete a character, I double tap  the  delete button.
 So, sometimes the character that VO last spoke gets deleted and at
 other times the character which was immediately before the character
 that VO last spoke gets deleted.
 So, how exactly does this work?
 Let's say I've made a spelling mistake and have written my name as R A
 H O U L instead of R A H U L.
 So, where should I press the delete button to delete the O?
 
 Thanks in advance for your assistance.
 
 Best,
 Rahul
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Re: New IOS Game

2012-06-18 Thread Søren Jensen
Hi.
Has somebody completed the game yet? I came to level 19 I think and then 
zombies just keep comming for more than 20 minutes, and I got really bored... I 
find the game too easy though.
Best regards:
Søren Jensen
Mail  MSN:
s...@coolfortheblind.dk
Website:
http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/

Den 18/06/2012 kl. 10.35 skrev Brett:

 Hi, 
 
 Thanks for sharing this. This is a great game! I got to level. 19with my 
 first go. We need more games like this. 
 
 Sent from Brett's iPhone
 
 On 18/06/2012, at 12:59 PM, Blinkin blinkin4...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 All,
   This game is called Where's my Rubber Ducky.
   You use 3D audio, put your headphones in, spin around and tab the screen 
 the shoot zombies that are walking toward you.
   It is free in the app store. It uses the compass and GPS to tell how you 
 are turning and what direction your facing.
   I am downloading it now because it sounds fun and is free so why not.
   Here is where I found it
 http://applevis.com/ion-app-directory/games/wheres-my-rubber-ducky-shooter
 
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RE: Shortcut for typing a period ?

2012-06-18 Thread Anthony Vece
Hey Raul;

Thanks for the good tip.

Anthony


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 7:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Shortcut for typing a period ?

What do you mean does it work with text? If you mean when you are 
texting, yes. It works whenever the keyboard is present. When you 
double-tap and hold the more numbers button, you will hear something 
like alternative characters available. Without lifting your finger, 
slide it to where the z key is and lift. Now you have a period.

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On 6/18/2012 7:26 AM, Jodi Cowle wrote:
 Double tap and hold with one finger? Does this work with text? I can't get
it to work.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 18, 2012, at 6:05 AM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com
wrote:

 Hi Suzanne, in short, double-tap and hold makes the keyboard change
temporarily to the numbers keyboard with the common symbols. The period is
where the z key is and the comma is where the x key is. So, if you
double-tap and hold the numbers button, drag your finger to the location of
the z and you will see it's a period, list your finger and a period will be
entered, or do the same with a comma or a number. When you do it this way,
the keyboard immediately returns back to letters when finished. This is why
it's only useful if you will be doing 1 or 2 symbols or numbers in your
writing.

 I hope that makes sense.

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 On 6/18/2012 1:06 AM, Suzanne Wilson wrote:
 Raul,

 What does holding down the more numbers button do?  When I double tap
 and hold it, I'm not seeing anything.  What am I missing?

 Suzanne

 - Original Message - From: Raul A. Gallegos
 r...@raulgallegos.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 8:37 PM
 Subject: Re: Shortcut for typing a period ?


 Hi, glad this trick works for you as well. If I'm going to type a
 comma or just one or two numbers, or one or two symbols, the
 double-tap and hold is faster than double-tapping the more numbers
 button and finding what I want. However if I'm going to type a phone
 number, address, or something which requires more use of the screen
 with symbols, then I just double-tap the more numbers button like
normal.

 This is a trick I learned a while back on a blog of neat iPhone tips
 and tricks.

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 On 6/17/2012 2:12 AM, AppleGourmet wrote:
 Raul !! You are a genius!! Using double tap and hold on  the more
 numbers key and getting the period is brilliant. It really works
 well. Not only can I get a period but I can also get , ? Et cetera.
 thank you very very much! You'll have changed my life!!


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reading text file on iPhone

2012-06-18 Thread Tara Prakash

Dear all.
What's the best way of reading a text file on your iPhone. I have a slightly 
longer document, about 13 pages which I have transferred using dropbox. I 
can read the file using dropbox but it doesn't resume reading where it 
stopped if I have to stop reading for some reason. I tried plain text but 
that was no good either. I wish IBooks could read text documents but dropbox 
doesn't give me option to export to ibooks. Any other app?


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Re: labeling an icon

2012-06-18 Thread Tara Prakash
Thank you so much for reminding me. That worked like a charm. But you don't 
really have to do anything after holding on. The VO opens up an edit box for 
you to type the label. 
It helped me with a couple app including MSNBC which is shamelessly 
inaccessible. 
I still have an app that any British radio enthusiast would like to use. It is 
partially accessible. But it is inaccessible where it is required to be 
accessible. The app is called TheRadio. Probably the pro version will be more 
accessible because is without the ads. I am sticking with the free version 
because I am not sure if the paid version will be any different in terms of 
accessibility. 
If someone wants to try it has more than 100 radio stations from Britain 
including all the BBC channels. I wanted BBC 4 which I can now listen even if 
the app doesn't speak it when I touch it. I have to turn Voice Over off and 
touch the location on the screen which I have now mastered to find without 
using Voice Over. If douelb tap the location with VO on it opens an ad page. I 
am not sure how to label the icon in that situation. 

Regards

TaraPrakash

  - Original Message - 
  From: Brett 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 1:10 AM
  Subject: Re: labeling an icon


  Hi, 


  To label an icon, do a two finger double tap and hold until you hear an 
ascending tone. Then keeping your two fingers still on the screen, slide them 
upwards, until you get an edit field pop up. This is where you type the label 
you want. Note, you May first have to delete the original labels text. 


  Hope this helps, 

  Sent from Brett's iPhone

  On 17/06/2012, at 1:51 PM, Tara Prakash taraprak...@gmail.com wrote:


Dear all. I remember someone mentioned there was a way to label the 
unmarked elements. I have an app that is full of buttons but there is no way to 
know their function unless I double tap them. 

Please let me know how to label them for my convenience.

Thanks

TaraPrakash


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How to stop messages from being read on the lock screen

2012-06-18 Thread VaShaun Jones
Listers where is the setting that disables the text messages from being read on 
the lock screen?

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Re: How to stop messages from being read on the lock screen

2012-06-18 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Settings - General - Accessibility - Voice Over and look for Speak
notifications in lock screen and make sure it's toggled to off.

On 18/06/12 08:59, VaShaun Jones wrote:
 Listers where is the setting that disables the text messages from being read 
 on the lock screen?
 


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Re: Ootunes Recordings (was stereo recording (was Recorder suggestions))

2012-06-18 Thread Courtney Curran
Hi Carol,
I've never tried the Windows version, since I only use a mac, but the mac 
version works really really, I use it almost every day.
Courtney
On Jun 18, 2012, at 7:26 AM, Carol Pearson wrote:

 Yes, it is available for Windows also.
 
 I've looked at it and it looks like something we all ought to have ... but 
 does it really work?
 
 I'd value any feedback from anyone who's already tried it or gets round to it 
 before I do!  Smiles
 
 Carol P
  Original Message 
 From: Courtney Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 4:01 PM
 Subject: Re: Ootunes Recordings (was stereo recording (was
 Recorder suggestions))
 
 Hi,
 Actually, this isn't exactly the case, at least on the
 mac. There's an app from digidna called Disc Aid. I think
 they make it for windows too. There's a checkbox under
 the advanced tab in the settings, it says something like
 show apps even if sharing isn't enabled. Check that box,
 then you can get your ootunes recordings. I was so happy
 when I got that app.
 Hope this helps,
 Courtney
 On Jun 16, 2012, at 10:41 PM, Brett wrote:
 
 
 
  Hi.
 
  The only way to transfer ootunes recordings to the pc
  is to be jailbrokdn. Sent from Brett's iPhone
 
  On 17/06/2012, at 9:32 AM, Fonarak
  fona...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
  Hi. On the subject of Ootunes, anyone know how to get
  those recordings, via
  the PC, perhaps? Can I do it with Phone Disk or
  similar? If so, where will I
  find the files, please? Someone wants a program I
  recorded the other day,
  but I haven't worked out how to get it for them yet.
 
  Thanks.
 
  Fi
 
  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com
  [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
  Of Jonathan Mosen
  Sent: 16 June 2012 23:01
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: stereo recording (was Recorder
  suggestions)
 
  Ootunes can do what it does because it is simply
  dumping the data stream it
  is receiving over the Internet to a file. It isn't
  possible to record
  directly from the iPhone's audio output, because the
  hardware isn't capable
  of doing so.
 
  Jonathan
 
  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com
  [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
  Of Anthony Vece
  Sent: Sunday, 17 June 2012 9:58 a.m.
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: stereo recording (was Recorder
  suggestions)
 
  Hi FI;
 
  I don't think this is the type of recording I had in
  mind.
  Let me explain further.
 
  The ootunes app records what it hears automatically.
  I don't believe it uses a mic because the recording
  quality is too good.
 
  In other words I would like to record music that is
  being played on my
  iPhone 4S.
 
  I hope my explanation was precise.
 
  Anthony
 
  Sent from my Verizon iPhone!
 
  On Jun 16, 2012, at 5:40 PM, Fonarak
  fona...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
  Hi Anthony. Just be aware that you need something
  like a Tascam IM2 or
  a Fostex AR4I to get the phone to record in stereo,
  as it only has a mono microphone. They are both
  fantastic, but I really recommend the Fostex,
  although it is a bit big, so it depends what your
  priorities are.
 
  The Tascam is good because it will also work with an
  iPad. Also, the Fostex will only work with the iPhone
  4 and 4s, because it cradles the phone, or iPod
  Touch. My Dad has an iPhone 3gs and we tried to fit
  it in, but it was too big. Just mentioning this, as
  not sure which iPhone you have, plus might be useful
  for others to know.
 
  Not sure if earlier iPod Touches fit in the Fostex or
  not, as both
  mine are quite new. Yes ... I said both!!!
 
  Fi
 
  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com
  [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
  Anthony Vece
  Sent: 16 June 2012 22:03
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Recorder suggestions
 
  Thank you Eric.
  I'll download it and, put it through its paces.
 
  Thanks Again
  Anthony
 
 
  Sent from my Verizon iPhone!
 
  On Jun 16, 2012, at 4:33 PM, Eric Caron
  ecar...@comcast.net wrote:
 
  Hi Anthony,
 
  List Recorder settings allow for high quality
  recording up to CD quality.
  I would expect your results would only be limited by
  the iPhone and other hardware.  .  List Recorder is
  set up to allow stereo recording.
  I suspect others could comment better on your
  question as I have
  only
  used the recorder for spoken sounds.
 
  Eric Caron
  On Jun 16, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Anthony Vece wrote:
 
  Will this app let you record music in high quality?
 
 
  Sent from my Verizon iPhone!
 
  On Jun 16, 2012, at 9:33 AM, Eric Caron
  eric.caro...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi Fonarak
 
  In List Recorder Full version, the recording times
  do not have a limit.
  Only your Device memory will limit the size.
  Yes, List Recorder lets you send the recording by
  email as a
  attachment.
 
  Currently List Recorder does not have editing
  functions.  I say
  currently because the app 

Re: THINKING ABOUT A MAC!

2012-06-18 Thread Maria Chapman
HI.  not sure about data base but text edit pages an and iText express are all 
very good editors.  haven't gotten in to pages a whole lot but so far i really 
like it.  Once you get the hang of how voice over works in my opinion it's just 
as quick to work with a mac.  Then for the things you really need windows for 
it is possible to run windows as a virtual machine.  Something i haven't done 
yet but am thinking about. This is just personal opinion but for me, the mac is 
a joy to use.  
Maria Chapman
bubbygirl1...@gmail.com

The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong. - 
Mahatma Gandhi

On 18/06/2012, at 10:01 PM, Carol Pearson wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 The time is coming now to replace my current desktop and I'm thinking about a 
 Mac.
 
 Seriously, though, can you really work as quickly when it comes to editing 
 docs?
 
 What is out there that will work for database and word processing that will 
 give you the full functionality you expect?
 
 Carol P
 
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RE: It seems as though my phone is frozen, how do I reset it without losing stuff?

2012-06-18 Thread Reinhard Stebner
Try holding down the power button and the home button for at least 3 seconds
and see if this brings back the phone.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jen Colley
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 10:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: It seems as though my phone is frozen, how do I reset it without
losing stuff?

 

Hi,  

It seems like my phone is frozen so how do I restart it without losing
anything?  

Jen  

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Siri Blase About Relationships?

2012-06-18 Thread Avnish Chopra
Siri helps me a lot. How ever when I asked it to call my brother, It
asked me who my brother is. . When I showed her my brother, she said
should I add the relationship? I said yes. It then told me that it
could not do that! Why is it so ?
Can anyone help please. Thank you!

Voice Converted to Text and Sent by my iPhone.

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Re: It seems as though my phone is frozen, how do I reset it without losing stuff?

2012-06-18 Thread Jennie Facer
Press the home and lock buttons for about ten seconds. 

Hope this helps,

Jenn

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 Hi, 
 It seems like my phone is frozen so how do I restart it without losing 
 anything? 
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Selecting Buttons to Relabeled

2012-06-18 Thread Eileen Misrahi
Hello List, 

In one of my apps there are 4 buttons, with 2 rows and two columns. This is
the only way I can describe the layout. I relabeled the first button (top
left/first row) and then all of the other buttons will have the  same
relabeled name When I thought I was in the next button, the name I type into
that field will just add onto what was first written in the first button.
How can I access the next button without adding on to the first one? Is this
the fault of the app? Is there any techniques that I am missing to be able
to label  the buttons without changing the first label? Any suggestions to
resolve this would be much appreciated. 

Thanks in advance. 

Eileen 

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Re: Editing text in iPhone

2012-06-18 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi, first set your rotor to characters. Now, in short, if you swipe 
down, you are moving forward. If you swipe up, you are moving backward. 
Your cursor is landing between the letters. So, if you have the first 7 
letters of the alphabet, abcdefg, and you swipe down until you hear c, 
that means your cursor is between c and d. If you double-tap delete, you 
will delete the letter c because you are moving forward and c is the 
last letter you heard. Now, again, taking abcdefg and let's say you are 
swiping up and the last letter you heard was b, that means your cursor 
is between a and b. This is because you are moving backwards and the 
last letter you heard was b, so this time if you press delete, the 
letter a will be deleted.


Also, check the archives of this list as this topic was discussed 
recently. Maybe they will help with a better explanation.


Good luck.

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On 6/18/2012 8:25 AM, Lea Langley wrote:

Hi all, I have trouble with the delete part of editing. I never can seem to get 
the cursor in the right place to delete the right character. I would really 
appreciate some help on this. Thank you so much for everything to all of you on 
the list. God bless, Wren

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 17, 2012, at 6:39 PM, hunter weeksca...@yahoo.com wrote:


Should I do a recording of me editing text on my I touch and or iPad?
Editing on any iOS device works the same. If so, I will in a few days
when I get back to the place where I left my recorder. This is
assuming that nothing comes up, and y'all want a recording. Oh yes,
I'm typing this on the screen of my iPad. LOL.

David Chittenden wrote:

Yep, anything is a royal pain until you practice and get good at it. I do most 
of my writing on my iPhone, even the initial drafts of my research papers.


David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 17/06/2012, at 11:36, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:


Well, I don't do a lot of it because I don't write long messages on the phone, 
but I do know that control C and control V still work as they do in Windows.  
Sorry, I just do not use the phone for a writing tool and one reason is because 
editing is a royal pain, if I ever get Siri things might change but then maybe 
not.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Tom Lange
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

Hi,
How do you do text selecttion with a bluetooth keyboard, and by what units of 
text can you select?

Thanks.
Tom

- Original Message -
From: Rose Combs
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 9:26 AM
Subject: RE: Editing text in iPhone

The edit function and cut and paste on the phone itself is junk, said from 
someone who much prefers using a keyboard when needing to edit where ctrl v and 
c work and where deleting works with separate keys so you know exactly if you 
are going the right direction.  I very much hate editing on the phone itself, 
if Vokul makes a mistake, in fact, I just leave it there, and if I make a 
horrible on typing I just delete the whole thing and try again.  I don't do 
lengthy messages or e-mail on the phone, only mail I get is to send phone 
numbers to the address connected to the phone because reading e-mail on the 
phone is not for me at least a pleasant experience.  I have lots of uses for 
the phone but editing, cutting and pasting are not among them unless I am bored 
and feel I have nothing else to do.

I like the phone and it goes everywhere with me but those functions and the 
rotors are my least favorite.  Practice in those cases does not make perfect, 
just frustration.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chuck Dean
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 2:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

Yes, as above, make sure you are going in the right direction.

When I first got my iPhone I thought the edit function was junk until I 
realized my mistake.
Chuck

On Friday, June 15, 2012 1:49:54 PM UTC-7, Rahul Bajaj wrote:
Hi all,

I often get really confused when I try to edit the text that I've typed.
For example, when I want to edit a text message, I swipe down with one
finger and VO reads the text character by character.
Now, if I want to delete a character, I double tap  the  delete button.
So, sometimes the character that VO last spoke gets deleted and at
other times the character which was immediately before the character
that VO last spoke gets deleted.
So, how exactly does this work?
Let's say I've made a spelling mistake and have written my name as R A
H O U L instead of R A H U L.
So, where should I press 

RE: Tactile Screen Overlay, Or Not?

2012-06-18 Thread Amy Billman
 for any opinions.
 
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Selecting Buttons to Relabeled

2012-06-18 Thread AppleGourmet
If you still can do it, please let me know the name of the application. I shall 
try and see where the problem lies. Many blessings! 

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DAPP application for IOS developers.

2012-06-18 Thread Igor Kaplan
Hi Listers,

 

  If someone interested, I found 2 quite useful apps for IOS developers.

The first one is call DAPP. This application pretty much builds the user
interface for the IOS application and generates the objective-c code.

  It is quite nice, the Dapp allows to create the project, create project
pages, lay-out on-screen views including views position and colors and
assign actions on those views. Actions are pretty simple, like creating the
Alert, however it is good enough to create the application template and then
easily locate the action handler in the code and add whatever action is
required.

 

  The DAPP application is very accessible, at least I was able to do all
tasks using voiceover with no problems. Even the graphical layout builder
almost accessible. However it is not necessary to use the layout builder,
all controls can be added, positioned and sized with out the layout builder,
in simple VoiceOver friendly dialogs.

  The app is not free, I believe, it is $9.99, however it is very, very
useful for the blind IOS developers. It definitely does not replace the
Interface Builder in XCode, however quite close to it.

  The app has the light version, which does everything except generating and
exporting the xcode code, so at least it is possible to evaluate it before
buying..

 

  Here is the app store link:

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/dapp/id370888555?mt=8
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/dapp/id370888555?mt=8ls=1 ls=1

Seller: KEROFROG PTY LTD

Name: Dapp

 

The second application is called Interface. It is quite similar with Dapp,
however has more features, more views and more views actions, overall, this
App is more powerful.

  Unfortunately application is not fully accessible. It is good enough to
work with it, however was required some work-around. 

  I have contacted the developer and got a very nice reply. The developer
will look at accessibility issues, which are not that many and will try to
release the updated version.

  However again, the app is very usable, just in some screens it requires to
turn off the VoiceOver to be able to double-tap on the screen to display
menus.

  So if someone wants to check it out, here is the information

Name:Interface

Developer: Less Code Ltd

 

  Unfortunately I don't have the direct link to this App, still can not
figure out how to get direct links easily with iTunes for windows.

 

  Hope, it will be useful for someone.

 

  Take care!

 

   Igor.

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Re: Navigon

2012-06-18 Thread Richard Turner
Hi Raul,

Now that you have burst my bubble about Oregon, let me address the real issue 
here.
The Portland maps used to be fine.  Navigon was my favorite app by far.
A couple updates ago, the maps began telling me that I am in Lake Jeanclia.
Since their support department seems to not give a damn about that, I certainly 
can't recommend Navigon here in Oregon.
However, who is to say that after the next update, your maps will suddenly 
start giving you false information?
The issue isn't that the maps are fine in some areas but not others, the issue 
is that when they screw something up, they don't seem to care about fixing it.

So, I cannot recommend a company with such awful customer service.

When anyone asks about Navigon, I will point this out.  

Take care,
Richard


(Sent from my iPhone)

On Jun 18, 2012, at 4:06 AM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote:

 Richard, but what about recommending Navigon for those who live in areas 
 where the maps do work for them? I mean, Oregon isn't the center of the 
 universe... Right? Seriously though, I can understand where you come from in 
 that if a product isn't accurate and the people you are making 
 recommendations to live in the area, then you are right that it's not a 
 viable solution.
 
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 On 6/17/2012 9:22 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
 The fact that Navigon thinks that I live in Lake Jeanclia, Oregon, is a 
 problem.
 I am in Portland and there is no lake jeanclia in Oregon and I get no reply 
 from their support people.
 So i cannot recommend navigon to anyone.
 Richard
 
 
 (Sent from my iPhone)
 
 On Jun 17, 2012, at 5:23 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com 
 wrote:
 
 Right, but mapquest also relies on data connection at all times where as 
 Navigon does not. That was my only point. Mapquest is very good as well. 
 Good thing there are always choices. I just don't get what the fuss with 
 people not liking Navigon is.
 
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 On 6/17/2012 1:33 AM, curmudgeon wrote:
 ddont bother buy ing navigon
 get mapquest
 its easier to use
 
 
 today is worst,
 than yesterday,
 but, not as bad,
 as tomorrow ,
 o, m, g,
 
 On Jun 14, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I asked the question about Navigon versus IOS 6 Maps a few days ago, and
 one difference that Raul pointed out, is that Maps in IOS 6 will need a
 data connection while Navigon will use locally stored maps. This will
 mean that you'll eat up your data plan if you're out and about using
 Maps. For this reason, it may still make sense to purchase Navigon.
 
 On 14/06/12 17:22, Mike Cassidy wrote:
 Hi Folks,
 
 I'm wondering about purchasing Navigon, but see that its review rating is
 only 2 stars; is this a true reflection of the app's value, or do people
 find Navigon worth the expenditure?
 
 Secondly, is the navigation app in IOS6 going to be a replacement for
 Navigon or similar?
 
 Thanks for your thoughts,
 
 Regards,
 
 Mike
 
 
 
 
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Re: Ootunes Recordings (was stereo recording (was Recorder suggestions))

2012-06-18 Thread Hank Smith
well if u get to it before I do withc will be later on this after noon 
after school let me know.

On 6/18/2012 4:26 AM, Carol Pearson wrote:

Yes, it is available for Windows also.

I've looked at it and it looks like something we all ought to have ... 
but does it really work?


I'd value any feedback from anyone who's already tried it or gets 
round to it before I do!  Smiles


Carol P
 Original Message 
From: Courtney Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: Ootunes Recordings (was stereo recording (was
Recorder suggestions))


Hi,
Actually, this isn't exactly the case, at least on the
mac. There's an app from digidna called Disc Aid. I think
they make it for windows too. There's a checkbox under
the advanced tab in the settings, it says something like
show apps even if sharing isn't enabled. Check that box,
then you can get your ootunes recordings. I was so happy
when I got that app.
Hope this helps,
Courtney
On Jun 16, 2012, at 10:41 PM, Brett wrote:



 Hi.

 The only way to transfer ootunes recordings to the pc
 is to be jailbrokdn. Sent from Brett's iPhone

 On 17/06/2012, at 9:32 AM, Fonarak
 fona...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi. On the subject of Ootunes, anyone know how to get
 those recordings, via
 the PC, perhaps? Can I do it with Phone Disk or
 similar? If so, where will I
 find the files, please? Someone wants a program I
 recorded the other day,
 but I haven't worked out how to get it for them yet.

 Thanks.

 Fi

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Jonathan Mosen
 Sent: 16 June 2012 23:01
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: stereo recording (was Recorder
 suggestions)

 Ootunes can do what it does because it is simply
 dumping the data stream it
 is receiving over the Internet to a file. It isn't
 possible to record
 directly from the iPhone's audio output, because the
 hardware isn't capable
 of doing so.

 Jonathan

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Anthony Vece
 Sent: Sunday, 17 June 2012 9:58 a.m.
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: stereo recording (was Recorder
 suggestions)

 Hi FI;

 I don't think this is the type of recording I had in
 mind.
 Let me explain further.

 The ootunes app records what it hears automatically.
 I don't believe it uses a mic because the recording
 quality is too good.

 In other words I would like to record music that is
 being played on my
 iPhone 4S.

 I hope my explanation was precise.

 Anthony

 Sent from my Verizon iPhone!

 On Jun 16, 2012, at 5:40 PM, Fonarak
 fona...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi Anthony. Just be aware that you need something
 like a Tascam IM2 or
 a Fostex AR4I to get the phone to record in stereo,
 as it only has a mono microphone. They are both
 fantastic, but I really recommend the Fostex,
 although it is a bit big, so it depends what your
 priorities are.

 The Tascam is good because it will also work with an
 iPad. Also, the Fostex will only work with the iPhone
 4 and 4s, because it cradles the phone, or iPod
 Touch. My Dad has an iPhone 3gs and we tried to fit
 it in, but it was too big. Just mentioning this, as
 not sure which iPhone you have, plus might be useful
 for others to know.

 Not sure if earlier iPod Touches fit in the Fostex or
 not, as both
 mine are quite new. Yes ... I said both!!!

 Fi

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
 Anthony Vece
 Sent: 16 June 2012 22:03
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Recorder suggestions

 Thank you Eric.
 I'll download it and, put it through its paces.

 Thanks Again
 Anthony


 Sent from my Verizon iPhone!

 On Jun 16, 2012, at 4:33 PM, Eric Caron
 ecar...@comcast.net wrote:

 Hi Anthony,

 List Recorder settings allow for high quality
 recording up to CD quality.
 I would expect your results would only be limited by
 the iPhone and other hardware.  .  List Recorder is
 set up to allow stereo recording.
 I suspect others could comment better on your
 question as I have
 only
 used the recorder for spoken sounds.

 Eric Caron
 On Jun 16, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Anthony Vece wrote:

 Will this app let you record music in high quality?


 Sent from my Verizon iPhone!

 On Jun 16, 2012, at 9:33 AM, Eric Caron
 eric.caro...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Fonarak

 In List Recorder Full version, the recording times
 do not have a limit.
 Only your Device memory will limit the size.
 Yes, List Recorder lets you send the recording by
 email as a
 attachment.

 Currently List Recorder does not have editing
 functions.  I say
 currently because the app developer is constantly
 updating and
 improving the app.  With each new version large
 feature improvements
 happen.

 And,  the app is being strongly supported and user
 feature requests are
 being worked on!

 Eric Caron

 On Jun 15, 

Re: THINKING ABOUT A MAC!

2012-06-18 Thread Hank Smith

Hello for word processing there is text edit
that comes with the mac and there is also a pay app called mars edit.
if memory serves, this is also vo friendly.
hth
Hank
On 6/18/2012 5:01 AM, Carol Pearson wrote:

Hi all,

The time is coming now to replace my current desktop and I'm thinking 
about a Mac.


Seriously, though, can you really work as quickly when it comes to 
editing docs?


What is out there that will work for database and word processing that 
will give you the full functionality you expect?


Carol P




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Re: THINKING ABOUT A MAC!

2012-06-18 Thread Maria Chapman
Hi.  mars edit is for blogging.

hth.


God Bless! Maria from australia
 Newbie mac user.
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will get you fb as well as email  iMessage.   
skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl 









On 19/06/2012, at 1:52 AM, Hank Smith wrote:

 Hello for word processing there is text edit
 that comes with the mac and there is also a pay app called mars edit.
 if memory serves, this is also vo friendly.
 hth
 Hank
 On 6/18/2012 5:01 AM, Carol Pearson wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 The time is coming now to replace my current desktop and I'm thinking about 
 a Mac.
 
 Seriously, though, can you really work as quickly when it comes to editing 
 docs?
 
 What is out there that will work for database and word processing that will 
 give you the full functionality you expect?
 
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Re: THINKING ABOUT A MAC!

2012-06-18 Thread Scott Howell
Hi Carol,

Well I use a Mac for nearly everything. THe only time I use WIndows is on a VM 
at work and mainly because I need to ensure 100% compatibility for Microsoft 
Word. If Microsoft would get its thumb out and make the Office suite accessible 
I might not need Windows at all.
However, with that said I consider myself to be very efficient using the Mac, 
but then I also have a good number of years experience. Therefore, if you are 
willing to accept that there will be a learning curve and you are prepared to 
put the time in, then you will do just fine. Remember the effort it took to 
master the world of iOS. :)
THe best thing is you can always have both with the Mac. You can run the Mac 
and WIndows for things that you really cannot live without. Hey you can even 
run Linux on that VM if yo like. :)

On Jun 18, 2012, at 8:01 AM, Carol Pearson wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 The time is coming now to replace my current desktop and I'm thinking about a 
 Mac.
 
 Seriously, though, can you really work as quickly when it comes to editing 
 docs?
 
 What is out there that will work for database and word processing that will 
 give you the full functionality you expect?
 
 Carol P
 
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Re: THINKING ABOUT A MAC!

2012-06-18 Thread Hank Smith

oops.
I thaught there was a mars something for word processing.
my bad.

On 6/18/2012 8:52 AM, Maria Chapman wrote:

Hi.  mars edit is for blogging.

hth.


God Bless! Maria from australia
 Newbie mac user.
bubbygirl1...@gmail.com mailto:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
will get you fb as well as email  iMessage.
skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl









On 19/06/2012, at 1:52 AM, Hank Smith wrote:


Hello for word processing there is text edit
that comes with the mac and there is also a pay app called mars edit.
if memory serves, this is also vo friendly.
hth
Hank
On 6/18/2012 5:01 AM, Carol Pearson wrote:

Hi all,

The time is coming now to replace my current desktop and I'm 
thinking about a Mac.


Seriously, though, can you really work as quickly when it comes to 
editing docs?


What is out there that will work for database and word processing 
that will give you the full functionality you expect?


Carol P




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Re: Editing text in iPhone

2012-06-18 Thread Tara Prakash
I remember it is possible to cut copy and paste text from edit field. Can 
you please let me know how?



- Original Message - 
From: Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone


Hi, first set your rotor to characters. Now, in short, if you swipe
down, you are moving forward. If you swipe up, you are moving backward.
Your cursor is landing between the letters. So, if you have the first 7
letters of the alphabet, abcdefg, and you swipe down until you hear c,
that means your cursor is between c and d. If you double-tap delete, you
will delete the letter c because you are moving forward and c is the
last letter you heard. Now, again, taking abcdefg and let's say you are
swiping up and the last letter you heard was b, that means your cursor
is between a and b. This is because you are moving backwards and the
last letter you heard was b, so this time if you press delete, the
letter a will be deleted.

Also, check the archives of this list as this topic was discussed
recently. Maybe they will help with a better explanation.

Good luck.

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On 6/18/2012 8:25 AM, Lea Langley wrote:
Hi all, I have trouble with the delete part of editing. I never can seem 
to get the cursor in the right place to delete the right character. I 
would really appreciate some help on this. Thank you so much for 
everything to all of you on the list. God bless, Wren


Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 17, 2012, at 6:39 PM, hunter weeksca...@yahoo.com wrote:


Should I do a recording of me editing text on my I touch and or iPad?
Editing on any iOS device works the same. If so, I will in a few days
when I get back to the place where I left my recorder. This is
assuming that nothing comes up, and y'all want a recording. Oh yes,
I'm typing this on the screen of my iPad. LOL.

David Chittenden wrote:
Yep, anything is a royal pain until you practice and get good at it. I 
do most of my writing on my iPhone, even the initial drafts of my 
research papers.



David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 17/06/2012, at 11:36, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:

Well, I don't do a lot of it because I don't write long messages on the 
phone, but I do know that control C and control V still work as they do 
in Windows.  Sorry, I just do not use the phone for a writing tool and 
one reason is because editing is a royal pain, if I ever get Siri 
things might change but then maybe not.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Tom Lange

Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

Hi,
How do you do text selecttion with a bluetooth keyboard, and by what 
units of text can you select?


Thanks.
Tom

- Original Message -
From: Rose Combs
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 9:26 AM
Subject: RE: Editing text in iPhone

The edit function and cut and paste on the phone itself is junk, said 
from someone who much prefers using a keyboard when needing to edit 
where ctrl v and c work and where deleting works with separate keys so 
you know exactly if you are going the right direction.  I very much 
hate editing on the phone itself, if Vokul makes a mistake, in fact, I 
just leave it there, and if I make a horrible on typing I just delete 
the whole thing and try again.  I don't do lengthy messages or e-mail 
on the phone, only mail I get is to send phone numbers to the address 
connected to the phone because reading e-mail on the phone is not for 
me at least a pleasant experience.  I have lots of uses for the phone 
but editing, cutting and pasting are not among them unless I am bored 
and feel I have nothing else to do.


I like the phone and it goes everywhere with me but those functions and 
the rotors are my least favorite.  Practice in those cases does not 
make perfect, just frustration.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Chuck Dean

Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 2:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

Yes, as above, make sure you are going in the right direction.

When I first got my iPhone I thought the edit function was junk until I 
realized my mistake.

Chuck

On Friday, June 15, 2012 1:49:54 PM UTC-7, Rahul Bajaj wrote:
Hi all,

I often get really confused when I try to edit the text that I've 
typed.

For example, when I want to edit a text message, I swipe down with one
finger and VO reads the text character by character.
Now, if I want to delete a character, I double tap  the  delete button.
So, sometimes the character that VO last 

Braille hot keys on the Braille Edge and Window-Eyes

2012-06-18 Thread Richard Turner
Terry,
I lost your original message, but I checked with GW Micro and the braille hot 
keys for the Edge and Window-Eyes all came from HIMS.
The folks at GW have not seen the Braille Edge.

Later,
Richard


(Sent from my iPhone)

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Re: Tactile Screen Overlay, Or Not?

2012-06-18 Thread Suzanne Wilson

Hi Amy,

I think I would like to try the OtterBox Defender and would love it if you 
could send one of the screen overlays for that particular case.  I just have 
two questions:
1.  You said that the case has its own built-in screen protector.  I looked 
online and they referred to it as a membrane that fits over the screen.  I'm 
guessing that what that would mean is that, once you put on the SpeedDots 
overlay, you would, in effect, have two screen protectors.  Does that affect 
screen sensitivity?


2.  You said that your overlay doesn't peel off the OtterBox because you're 
not sliding your phone in and out of a shell.  Instead, your phone stays in 
the shell all the time.  I understand that, but how then does it fit into 
the belt clip/holster?  I would imagine that the back of the phone would 
slide into the holster, with the screen facing out.  Is that right?


Thanks so much for answering my questions.  I appreciate your time.

Suzanne Wilson

- Original Message - 
From: Amy Billman amy0...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 10:36 AM
Subject: RE: Tactile Screen Overlay, Or Not?



Hi Suzanne,

Do you know what kind of case it is that you have? What name and who makes
it?

I can tell you that the screen protectors that we sell to fit over the
OtterBox Defender cases, are measured and then cut to fit them exactly.
This works though because of the design of that case. You don't have to 
take
your phone out in order to use it, so the screen protector can just fit 
over

the top of the case, your phone goes inside; done.
We've had other customers say similar things about the juice pack cases...
If you are constantly taking your phone in and out of a case with that 
kind
of design, it can cause your protector to peal like that, especially if 
it's

not on straight.
We have only ever tested our screen protectors with one other case and 
that

is the Griffin, and our screen protectors will not fit them properly.

Amy Billman
Check out my company for your screen protector and phone accessory needs!
SpeedDots: the makers of the tactile screen protector
http://www.SpeedDots.com
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Suzanne Wilson
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 12:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tactile Screen Overlay, Or Not?

Hi Amy,

I have a question.  I use a case for my iPhone 4s that has two parts:  a
hard part that is like a shell into which my phone very snugly fits, and a
back belt clip that the phone and shell fit into.  It's not an OtterBox, 
but


it may be similar.  When I bought one of the SpeedDots overlays, it very
quickly got ruined because the edge chafed against the shell when I 
slipped

the phone in and out.  I see that you sell overlays for the OtterBox and
wonder if you could describe how they differ from your standard ones.  Do
you know if they work with cases that are similar to the OtterBox as well?
Thanks.

Suzanne
- Original Message - 
From: Amy Billman amy0...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 12:32 PM
Subject: RE: Tactile Screen Overlay, Or Not?



I do like the fact that I can type completely by touch without voiceover
and
that I can truly use my phone, without the need of lugging around a
Bluetooth keyboard and that I can type 60 WPM on my iPhone.
Yes I make them and sell them, so this may seem a bit not quite 
objective,
but we all used them and gave them away for testing prior to selling 
them.

If they hadn't taken off, we'd have no company.
They aren't for everyone which is quite true, but then again, neither is
an
iOS device. *smile*
It's nice to have choices. I love my bluetooth keyboard, especially if 
I'm

sending a lot of very long emails, but it's not a need anymore because of
the overlay.
It's $7. Most would spend that on a meal or something, so the price point
is
affordable where keyboards cost much more.
Amy Billman
Check out my company for your screen protector and phone accessory needs!
SpeedDots: the makers of the tactile screen protector
http://www.SpeedDots.com
Follow us on Twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/SpeedDots
Like us on Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/SpeedDots

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of Rob Harris
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 12:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tactile Screen Overlay, Or Not?

I bought both, one with lots of dots and one with few;  tried and took
them
off pretty soon and didn't use them since.  You feel about a bit to start
with, but you get good at hitting the right spot after a while, like a
good
pianist does.  And if you neeed  to write that much, most get a real BT
keyboard and type on that.  Given the price of those overlays, and the
starting price of a BT 

Re: THINKING ABOUT A MAC!

2012-06-18 Thread Chuck Dean
Hi Carol ,
I bought a Mac back in January, and I still haven't gotten the hang of 
voice over.
I went to the Apple store, who were not much help, and tried to find 
tutorial videos but not much is out there.

I guess my problems stem from me going back and forth between Zoom and 
voice over, something I do all the time on my PC. I do have some vision, so 
I only want to use the screen reader for a few things. I can not find the 
proper settings to run it like I run  my PC. Perhaps they do not exist.

I run both Mac and PC through the same monitor using a VGA  A B switch.
I am currently on a PC with Zoom Text, which never fails to disappoint me.
As said above, there is a learning curve, it does not seem as intuitive as 
the iPhone.
Just my two cents worth,
Chuck

On Monday, June 18, 2012 5:01:06 AM UTC-7, Carol Pearson wrote:

 Hi all, 

 The time is coming now to replace my current desktop and I'm thinking 
 about 
 a Mac. 

 Seriously, though, can you really work as quickly when it comes to editing 
 docs? 

 What is out there that will work for database and word processing that 
 will 
 give you the full functionality you expect? 

 Carol P 


On Monday, June 18, 2012 5:01:06 AM UTC-7, Carol Pearson wrote:

 Hi all, 

 The time is coming now to replace my current desktop and I'm thinking 
 about 
 a Mac. 

 Seriously, though, can you really work as quickly when it comes to editing 
 docs? 

 What is out there that will work for database and word processing that 
 will 
 give you the full functionality you expect? 

 Carol P 


On Monday, June 18, 2012 5:01:06 AM UTC-7, Carol Pearson wrote:

 Hi all, 

 The time is coming now to replace my current desktop and I'm thinking 
 about 
 a Mac. 

 Seriously, though, can you really work as quickly when it comes to editing 
 docs? 

 What is out there that will work for database and word processing that 
 will 
 give you the full functionality you expect? 

 Carol P 


On Monday, June 18, 2012 5:01:06 AM UTC-7, Carol Pearson wrote:

 Hi all, 

 The time is coming now to replace my current desktop and I'm thinking 
 about 
 a Mac. 

 Seriously, though, can you really work as quickly when it comes to editing 
 docs? 

 What is out there that will work for database and word processing that 
 will 
 give you the full functionality you expect? 

 Carol P 


On Monday, June 18, 2012 5:01:06 AM UTC-7, Carol Pearson wrote:

 Hi all, 

 The time is coming now to replace my current desktop and I'm thinking 
 about 
 a Mac. 

 Seriously, though, can you really work as quickly when it comes to editing 
 docs? 

 What is out there that will work for database and word processing that 
 will 
 give you the full functionality you expect? 

 Carol P 


On Monday, June 18, 2012 5:01:06 AM UTC-7, Carol Pearson wrote:

 Hi all, 

 The time is coming now to replace my current desktop and I'm thinking 
 about 
 a Mac. 

 Seriously, though, can you really work as quickly when it comes to editing 
 docs? 

 What is out there that will work for database and word processing that 
 will 
 give you the full functionality you expect? 

 Carol P 



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RE: Tactile Screen Overlay, Or Not?

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RE: Editing text in iPhone

2012-06-18 Thread Jennie Facer
You have to use the pinch gesture to select text first of all. Than you use
your roter and go to edit. Here, you flick down to choose what you want to
do.

Hope this helps,

Jenn

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Tara Prakash
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 10:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

I remember it is possible to cut copy and paste text from edit field. Can
you please let me know how?


- Original Message - 
From: Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone


Hi, first set your rotor to characters. Now, in short, if you swipe
down, you are moving forward. If you swipe up, you are moving backward.
Your cursor is landing between the letters. So, if you have the first 7
letters of the alphabet, abcdefg, and you swipe down until you hear c,
that means your cursor is between c and d. If you double-tap delete, you
will delete the letter c because you are moving forward and c is the
last letter you heard. Now, again, taking abcdefg and let's say you are
swiping up and the last letter you heard was b, that means your cursor
is between a and b. This is because you are moving backwards and the
last letter you heard was b, so this time if you press delete, the
letter a will be deleted.

Also, check the archives of this list as this topic was discussed
recently. Maybe they will help with a better explanation.

Good luck.

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other half is spent trying to lose weight.
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On 6/18/2012 8:25 AM, Lea Langley wrote:
 Hi all, I have trouble with the delete part of editing. I never can seem 
 to get the cursor in the right place to delete the right character. I 
 would really appreciate some help on this. Thank you so much for 
 everything to all of you on the list. God bless, Wren

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 17, 2012, at 6:39 PM, hunter weeksca...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Should I do a recording of me editing text on my I touch and or iPad?
 Editing on any iOS device works the same. If so, I will in a few days
 when I get back to the place where I left my recorder. This is
 assuming that nothing comes up, and y'all want a recording. Oh yes,
 I'm typing this on the screen of my iPad. LOL.

 David Chittenden wrote:
 Yep, anything is a royal pain until you practice and get good at it. I 
 do most of my writing on my iPhone, even the initial drafts of my 
 research papers.


 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone

 On 17/06/2012, at 11:36, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well, I don't do a lot of it because I don't write long messages on the

 phone, but I do know that control C and control V still work as they do

 in Windows.  Sorry, I just do not use the phone for a writing tool and 
 one reason is because editing is a royal pain, if I ever get Siri 
 things might change but then maybe not.


 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Tom Lange
 Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:10 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

 Hi,
 How do you do text selecttion with a bluetooth keyboard, and by what 
 units of text can you select?

 Thanks.
 Tom

 - Original Message -
 From: Rose Combs
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 9:26 AM
 Subject: RE: Editing text in iPhone

 The edit function and cut and paste on the phone itself is junk, said 
 from someone who much prefers using a keyboard when needing to edit 
 where ctrl v and c work and where deleting works with separate keys so 
 you know exactly if you are going the right direction.  I very much 
 hate editing on the phone itself, if Vokul makes a mistake, in fact, I 
 just leave it there, and if I make a horrible on typing I just delete 
 the whole thing and try again.  I don't do lengthy messages or e-mail 
 on the phone, only mail I get is to send phone numbers to the address 
 connected to the phone because reading e-mail on the phone is not for 
 me at least a pleasant experience.  I have lots of uses for the phone 
 but editing, cutting and pasting are not among them unless I am bored 
 and feel I have nothing else to do.

 I like the phone and it goes everywhere with me but those functions and

 the rotors are my least favorite.  Practice in those cases does not 
 make perfect, just frustration.


 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Chuck Dean
 Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 2:01 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

 Yes, as above, make sure you are going in the right direction.

 When I first got my iPhone I thought 

Re: Tactile Screen Overlay, Or Not?

2012-06-18 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi, I have used the Otter Box Defender case with the iPhone 4S and the 
Speed Dots protector. I don't have problems with the sensitivity of the 
screen considering there are two protectors. However I'm going away from 
the defender case right now, and it doesn't have to do with the speed 
dots protector at all. All in all, I find the Otter Box Defender cases 
very well done for the most part and do recommend them to people, but as 
Amy states, each person has their own preferences on cases, screen 
protectors, sensitivity, ETC.


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On 6/18/2012 1:18 PM, Amy Billman wrote:

Hi Suzanne.

Yes, in general whether you're blind and using a tactile overlay, or sighted
and simply want/need to have your phone in an Otterbox Defender case, screen
sensitivity is an issue.
If you go onto Amazon and read reviews of the Otterbox Defender cases,
you'll see many folks complaining about the fact that the built-in screen
protector that's part of the OtterBox case alone, impacts screen
sensitivity.
Any distance from the phone screen itself, is going to effect the overall
sensitivity when it comes to screen contact.
That being said, we sell a lot of the Otterbox screen protectors, so it
doesn't appear to be anything that's a deal breaker for most.
It might be helpful for you if someone on this list who uses the Defender
with our screen protector can weigh in on this discussion to give you a bit
more info about overall screen sensitivity and how they feel it does or does
not impact their use of the phone.
I only can speak for what our customers say and how many we sell. I prefer
not to use that particular case because if I must have bulk on my phone, I
want it to mean something; so I either use a case that will extend my
battery life, or if I want something more low profile, I'll use the Otterbox
Impact which does not require a special cut protector and does not enclose
my phone.
It's personal preference really.

As far as sliding the phone into the belt clip, it's like a holster. You can
put your phone inside its shell in one of two ways; either slide it into the
clip with the screen side facing out or in.
Facing inward, once snapped in place, the phone is completely enclosed and
the screen isn't exposed; so you'd need to slide the belt clip off to use
the phone.
With the screen facing out, of course, if you've got it that way and you're
running around with it on your belt or something and you run through the
bushes, your protector could scratch.
I've seen folks carry it both ways. That again is a preference thing from
what I've noticed.

I'm emailing you off list about the specifics of replacing your screen
protector, because I have some additional questions for you and do not want
to clutter the list unnecessarily.
Amy Billman
Check out my company for your screen protector and phone accessory needs!
SpeedDots: the makers of the tactile screen protector
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Suzanne Wilson
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 9:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tactile Screen Overlay, Or Not?

Hi Amy,

I think I would like to try the OtterBox Defender and would love it if you
could send one of the screen overlays for that particular case.  I just have

two questions:
1.  You said that the case has its own built-in screen protector.  I looked
online and they referred to it as a membrane that fits over the screen.  I'm

guessing that what that would mean is that, once you put on the SpeedDots
overlay, you would, in effect, have two screen protectors.  Does that affect

screen sensitivity?

2.  You said that your overlay doesn't peel off the OtterBox because you're
not sliding your phone in and out of a shell.  Instead, your phone stays in
the shell all the time.  I understand that, but how then does it fit into
the belt clip/holster?  I would imagine that the back of the phone would
slide into the holster, with the screen facing out.  Is that right?

Thanks so much for answering my questions.  I appreciate your time.

Suzanne Wilson

- Original Message -
From: Amy Billman amy0...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 10:36 AM
Subject: RE: Tactile Screen Overlay, Or Not?



Hi Suzanne,

Do you know what kind of case it is that you have? What name and who makes
it?

I can tell you that the screen protectors that we sell to fit over the
OtterBox Defender cases, are measured and then cut to fit them exactly.
This works though because of the design of that case. You don't have to
take
your phone out in order to use it, so the 

goodreads app now accessible

2012-06-18 Thread zkrisher
goodreads is a book readers social network.

The goodreads app used to be quite entirely inaccessible.

a couple of days ago a major update to the app surprised me by being
almost entirely accessible.
The only part that I've found to be inaccessible is the e-books
section.
Once you try to open and read an e-book there is no VoiceOver support.

If you're a goodreads member or love reading and want to give it a try
I recommend the goodreads app:

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/goodreads/id355833469?mt=8

I haven't had time to review it for AppleVis, It'll try to get to it
on the weekend, but if someone wants to take the challenge, they are
welcome to do the review.

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Re: Navigon

2012-06-18 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Thanks Richard, I do understand better now. I'm wondering if the map 
source that Navigon uses hasn't updated, which means that Navigon isn't 
to blame fully, or perhaps they haven't paid the license fees to get the 
updated map data, and then that is their fault. However if they are not 
willing to answer a tech support questions, it's hard to know and again, 
comes full circle as to why you don't recommend them.


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On 6/18/2012 11:47 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

Hi Raul,

Now that you have burst my bubble about Oregon, let me address the real issue 
here.
The Portland maps used to be fine.  Navigon was my favorite app by far.
A couple updates ago, the maps began telling me that I am in Lake Jeanclia.
Since their support department seems to not give a damn about that, I certainly 
can't recommend Navigon here in Oregon.
However, who is to say that after the next update, your maps will suddenly 
start giving you false information?
The issue isn't that the maps are fine in some areas but not others, the issue 
is that when they screw something up, they don't seem to care about fixing it.

So, I cannot recommend a company with such awful customer service.

When anyone asks about Navigon, I will point this out.

Take care,
Richard


(Sent from my iPhone)

On Jun 18, 2012, at 4:06 AM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote:


Richard, but what about recommending Navigon for those who live in areas where 
the maps do work for them? I mean, Oregon isn't the center of the universe... 
Right? Seriously though, I can understand where you come from in that if a 
product isn't accurate and the people you are making recommendations to live in 
the area, then you are right that it's not a viable solution.

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On 6/17/2012 9:22 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

The fact that Navigon thinks that I live in Lake Jeanclia, Oregon, is a problem.
I am in Portland and there is no lake jeanclia in Oregon and I get no reply 
from their support people.
So i cannot recommend navigon to anyone.
Richard


(Sent from my iPhone)

On Jun 17, 2012, at 5:23 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote:


Right, but mapquest also relies on data connection at all times where as 
Navigon does not. That was my only point. Mapquest is very good as well. Good 
thing there are always choices. I just don't get what the fuss with people not 
liking Navigon is.

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On 6/17/2012 1:33 AM, curmudgeon wrote:

ddont bother buy ing navigon
get mapquest
its easier to use


today is worst,
than yesterday,
but, not as bad,
as tomorrow ,
o, m, g,

On Jun 14, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:

I asked the question about Navigon versus IOS 6 Maps a few days ago, and
one difference that Raul pointed out, is that Maps in IOS 6 will need a
data connection while Navigon will use locally stored maps. This will
mean that you'll eat up your data plan if you're out and about using
Maps. For this reason, it may still make sense to purchase Navigon.

On 14/06/12 17:22, Mike Cassidy wrote:

Hi Folks,

I'm wondering about purchasing Navigon, but see that its review rating is
only 2 stars; is this a true reflection of the app's value, or do people
find Navigon worth the expenditure?

Secondly, is the navigation app in IOS6 going to be a replacement for
Navigon or similar?

Thanks for your thoughts,

Regards,

Mike






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RE: goodreads app now accessible

2012-06-18 Thread Cristobal
Yes, I had written them way back when they first released it and they
answered me a couple of days later saying that they were working on VO
support for their next release which does in fact seem to be pretty
VoiceOver accessible. Good stuff. I've been a Good Reads member for going on
three years now and it's nice to see that their app is blind accessible.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of zkrisher
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 10:38 AM
To: VIPhone
Subject: goodreads app now accessible

goodreads is a book readers social network.

The goodreads app used to be quite entirely inaccessible.

a couple of days ago a major update to the app surprised me by being almost
entirely accessible.
The only part that I've found to be inaccessible is the e-books section.
Once you try to open and read an e-book there is no VoiceOver support.

If you're a goodreads member or love reading and want to give it a try I
recommend the goodreads app:

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/goodreads/id355833469?mt=8

I haven't had time to review it for AppleVis, It'll try to get to it on the
weekend, but if someone wants to take the challenge, they are welcome to do
the review.

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Re: Navigon

2012-06-18 Thread Richard Turner
Yes, and I just did some more research and found that several folks have been 
tryig to get Navigon to pay attention to this same map error since January and 
also have not gotten a reply.
These others are not VoiceOver users.
I wonder if someone in Lake Jeanclia, Kentucky are told they are in Portland?

Later,
Richard


(Sent from my iPhone)

On Jun 18, 2012, at 10:38 AM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote:

 Thanks Richard, I do understand better now. I'm wondering if the map source 
 that Navigon uses hasn't updated, which means that Navigon isn't to blame 
 fully, or perhaps they haven't paid the license fees to get the updated map 
 data, and then that is their fault. However if they are not willing to answer 
 a tech support questions, it's hard to know and again, comes full circle as 
 to why you don't recommend them.
 
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 one method was necessary?
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 On 6/18/2012 11:47 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
 Hi Raul,
 
 Now that you have burst my bubble about Oregon, let me address the real 
 issue here.
 The Portland maps used to be fine.  Navigon was my favorite app by far.
 A couple updates ago, the maps began telling me that I am in Lake Jeanclia.
 Since their support department seems to not give a damn about that, I 
 certainly can't recommend Navigon here in Oregon.
 However, who is to say that after the next update, your maps will suddenly 
 start giving you false information?
 The issue isn't that the maps are fine in some areas but not others, the 
 issue is that when they screw something up, they don't seem to care about 
 fixing it.
 
 So, I cannot recommend a company with such awful customer service.
 
 When anyone asks about Navigon, I will point this out.
 
 Take care,
 Richard
 
 
 (Sent from my iPhone)
 
 On Jun 18, 2012, at 4:06 AM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com 
 wrote:
 
 Richard, but what about recommending Navigon for those who live in areas 
 where the maps do work for them? I mean, Oregon isn't the center of the 
 universe... Right? Seriously though, I can understand where you come from 
 in that if a product isn't accurate and the people you are making 
 recommendations to live in the area, then you are right that it's not a 
 viable solution.
 
 --
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 If God Had Wanted Me to Touch My Toes, He Would Have Put Them on My Knees.
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 On 6/17/2012 9:22 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
 The fact that Navigon thinks that I live in Lake Jeanclia, Oregon, is a 
 problem.
 I am in Portland and there is no lake jeanclia in Oregon and I get no 
 reply from their support people.
 So i cannot recommend navigon to anyone.
 Richard
 
 
 (Sent from my iPhone)
 
 On Jun 17, 2012, at 5:23 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com 
 wrote:
 
 Right, but mapquest also relies on data connection at all times where as 
 Navigon does not. That was my only point. Mapquest is very good as well. 
 Good thing there are always choices. I just don't get what the fuss with 
 people not liking Navigon is.
 
 --
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 have been more specific. - Jane Wagner
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 On 6/17/2012 1:33 AM, curmudgeon wrote:
 ddont bother buy ing navigon
 get mapquest
 its easier to use
 
 
 today is worst,
 than yesterday,
 but, not as bad,
 as tomorrow ,
 o, m, g,
 
 On Jun 14, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I asked the question about Navigon versus IOS 6 Maps a few days ago, and
 one difference that Raul pointed out, is that Maps in IOS 6 will need a
 data connection while Navigon will use locally stored maps. This will
 mean that you'll eat up your data plan if you're out and about using
 Maps. For this reason, it may still make sense to purchase Navigon.
 
 On 14/06/12 17:22, Mike Cassidy wrote:
 Hi Folks,
 
 I'm wondering about purchasing Navigon, but see that its review rating 
 is
 only 2 stars; is this a true reflection of the app's value, or do people
 find Navigon worth the expenditure?
 
 Secondly, is the navigation app in IOS6 going to be a replacement for
 Navigon or similar?
 
 Thanks for your thoughts,
 
 Regards,
 
 Mike
 
 
 
 
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Re: goodreads app now accessible

2012-06-18 Thread Wil James
The part of the app that I am having trouble with is reading the books that I 
read. It is a button, but it says slighter. When I try to manipulate the slider 
in terms of the rating from 1 to 5, it stays at whatever the rating was when I 
originally tapped the record button. Other than that, it is working really 
nicely over here.


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On Jun 18, 2012, at 1:45 PM, Cristobal crismuno...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes, I had written them way back when they first released it and they
 answered me a couple of days later saying that they were working on VO
 support for their next release which does in fact seem to be pretty
 VoiceOver accessible. Good stuff. I've been a Good Reads member for going on
 three years now and it's nice to see that their app is blind accessible.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of zkrisher
 Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 10:38 AM
 To: VIPhone
 Subject: goodreads app now accessible
 
 goodreads is a book readers social network.
 
 The goodreads app used to be quite entirely inaccessible.
 
 a couple of days ago a major update to the app surprised me by being almost
 entirely accessible.
 The only part that I've found to be inaccessible is the e-books section.
 Once you try to open and read an e-book there is no VoiceOver support.
 
 If you're a goodreads member or love reading and want to give it a try I
 recommend the goodreads app:
 
 http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/goodreads/id355833469?mt=8
 
 I haven't had time to review it for AppleVis, It'll try to get to it on the
 weekend, but if someone wants to take the challenge, they are welcome to do
 the review.
 
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Re: Editing text in iPhone

2012-06-18 Thread Kimber Gardner
Further to Jennie's explanation, if you're in a text editor like
draftpad and you want to select the entire text you've just typed,
there is a select all option on the edit menu of the roter. Just
double tap select all then flick to copy and double tap. The phone
will say something like text copied. You can then go to another app
and paste the text you've copied.

I'm not very practiced at the pinch gesture so this is what I do when
I want to copy text from one place to another.

Kimber

On 6/18/12, Jennie Facer pup...@me.com wrote:
 You have to use the pinch gesture to select text first of all. Than you use
 your roter and go to edit. Here, you flick down to choose what you want to
 do.

 Hope this helps,

 Jenn

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Tara Prakash
 Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 10:37 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

 I remember it is possible to cut copy and paste text from edit field. Can
 you please let me know how?


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 From: Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 11:01 AM
 Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone


 Hi, first set your rotor to characters. Now, in short, if you swipe
 down, you are moving forward. If you swipe up, you are moving backward.
 Your cursor is landing between the letters. So, if you have the first 7
 letters of the alphabet, abcdefg, and you swipe down until you hear c,
 that means your cursor is between c and d. If you double-tap delete, you
 will delete the letter c because you are moving forward and c is the
 last letter you heard. Now, again, taking abcdefg and let's say you are
 swiping up and the last letter you heard was b, that means your cursor
 is between a and b. This is because you are moving backwards and the
 last letter you heard was b, so this time if you press delete, the
 letter a will be deleted.

 Also, check the archives of this list as this topic was discussed
 recently. Maybe they will help with a better explanation.

 Good luck.

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 On 6/18/2012 8:25 AM, Lea Langley wrote:
 Hi all, I have trouble with the delete part of editing. I never can seem
 to get the cursor in the right place to delete the right character. I
 would really appreciate some help on this. Thank you so much for
 everything to all of you on the list. God bless, Wren

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 17, 2012, at 6:39 PM, hunter weeksca...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Should I do a recording of me editing text on my I touch and or iPad?
 Editing on any iOS device works the same. If so, I will in a few days
 when I get back to the place where I left my recorder. This is
 assuming that nothing comes up, and y'all want a recording. Oh yes,
 I'm typing this on the screen of my iPad. LOL.

 David Chittenden wrote:
 Yep, anything is a royal pain until you practice and get good at it. I
 do most of my writing on my iPhone, even the initial drafts of my
 research papers.


 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone

 On 17/06/2012, at 11:36, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well, I don't do a lot of it because I don't write long messages on
 the

 phone, but I do know that control C and control V still work as they
 do

 in Windows.  Sorry, I just do not use the phone for a writing tool and

 one reason is because editing is a royal pain, if I ever get Siri
 things might change but then maybe not.


 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of Tom Lange
 Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:10 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

 Hi,
 How do you do text selecttion with a bluetooth keyboard, and by what
 units of text can you select?

 Thanks.
 Tom

 - Original Message -
 From: Rose Combs
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 9:26 AM
 Subject: RE: Editing text in iPhone

 The edit function and cut and paste on the phone itself is junk, said
 from someone who much prefers using a keyboard when needing to edit
 where ctrl v and c work and where deleting works with separate keys so

 you know exactly if you are going the right direction.  I very much
 hate editing on the phone itself, if Vokul makes a mistake, in fact, I

 just leave it there, and if I make a horrible on typing I just delete
 the whole thing and try again.  I don't do lengthy messages or e-mail
 on the phone, only mail I get is to send phone numbers to the address
 connected to the phone because reading e-mail on the phone is not for
 me at least a pleasant experience.  I have lots of uses for the phone
 but editing, cutting and 

Re: selling 2 iPhone 4S otter box cases

2012-06-18 Thread RDLAW

How is this case different from the one for 3gs?
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From: Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com
To: ViPhone Users List viphone@googlegroups.com; Accessible iOS List 
i...@groups.a11y.us

Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 06:32 PM
Subject: selling 2 iPhone 4S otter box cases


Hey all. I'm selling 2 Defender Otter Box cases for the iPhone 4S. Since 
this list is not for general buy-sell-trade of items, I'm request that you 
contact me off list for more details.


If you want to know what an Otter Box Defender case is, basically it's 
like a tank is protecting your iPhone. Details can be had at 
www.otterbox.com.


Thanks..

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Re: THINKING ABOUT A MAC!

2012-06-18 Thread Anthony Vece
How about iword?


Sent from my Verizon iPhone!

On Jun 18, 2012, at 11:52 AM, Hank Smith hanksm...@hanksmith.net wrote:

 Hello for word processing there is text edit
 that comes with the mac and there is also a pay app called mars edit.
 if memory serves, this is also vo friendly.
 hth
 Hank
 On 6/18/2012 5:01 AM, Carol Pearson wrote:
 Hi all,

 The time is coming now to replace my current desktop and I'm thinking about 
 a Mac.

 Seriously, though, can you really work as quickly when it comes to editing 
 docs?

 What is out there that will work for database and word processing that will 
 give you the full functionality you expect?

 Carol P



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RE: Navigon

2012-06-18 Thread Jordan Gallacher
I have the same issue as Richardd in a different state.  It appears that
they haven't paid to get map updates because for my state the map is 4 years
old at least.
Jordan

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 12:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Navigon

Thanks Richard, I do understand better now. I'm wondering if the map source
that Navigon uses hasn't updated, which means that Navigon isn't to blame
fully, or perhaps they haven't paid the license fees to get the updated map
data, and then that is their fault. However if they are not willing to
answer a tech support questions, it's hard to know and again, comes full
circle as to why you don't recommend them.

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On 6/18/2012 11:47 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
 Hi Raul,

 Now that you have burst my bubble about Oregon, let me address the real
issue here.
 The Portland maps used to be fine.  Navigon was my favorite app by far.
 A couple updates ago, the maps began telling me that I am in Lake
Jeanclia.
 Since their support department seems to not give a damn about that, I
certainly can't recommend Navigon here in Oregon.
 However, who is to say that after the next update, your maps will suddenly
start giving you false information?
 The issue isn't that the maps are fine in some areas but not others, the
issue is that when they screw something up, they don't seem to care about
fixing it.

 So, I cannot recommend a company with such awful customer service.

 When anyone asks about Navigon, I will point this out.

 Take care,
 Richard


 (Sent from my iPhone)

 On Jun 18, 2012, at 4:06 AM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com
wrote:

 Richard, but what about recommending Navigon for those who live in areas
where the maps do work for them? I mean, Oregon isn't the center of the
universe... Right? Seriously though, I can understand where you come from in
that if a product isn't accurate and the people you are making
recommendations to live in the area, then you are right that it's not a
viable solution.

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Knees.
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 On 6/17/2012 9:22 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
 The fact that Navigon thinks that I live in Lake Jeanclia, Oregon, is a
problem.
 I am in Portland and there is no lake jeanclia in Oregon and I get no
reply from their support people.
 So i cannot recommend navigon to anyone.
 Richard


 (Sent from my iPhone)

 On Jun 17, 2012, at 5:23 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com
wrote:

 Right, but mapquest also relies on data connection at all times where
as Navigon does not. That was my only point. Mapquest is very good as well.
Good thing there are always choices. I just don't get what the fuss with
people not liking Navigon is.

 --
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have been more specific. - Jane Wagner
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 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74


 On 6/17/2012 1:33 AM, curmudgeon wrote:
 ddont bother buy ing navigon
 get mapquest
 its easier to use


 today is worst,
 than yesterday,
 but, not as bad,
 as tomorrow ,
 o, m, g,

 On Jun 14, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I asked the question about Navigon versus IOS 6 Maps a few days ago,
and
 one difference that Raul pointed out, is that Maps in IOS 6 will need
a
 data connection while Navigon will use locally stored maps. This will
 mean that you'll eat up your data plan if you're out and about using
 Maps. For this reason, it may still make sense to purchase Navigon.

 On 14/06/12 17:22, Mike Cassidy wrote:
 Hi Folks,

 I'm wondering about purchasing Navigon, but see that its review
rating is
 only 2 stars; is this a true reflection of the app's value, or do
people
 find Navigon worth the expenditure?

 Secondly, is the navigation app in IOS6 going to be a replacement for
 Navigon or similar?

 Thanks for your thoughts,

 Regards,

 Mike




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Re: Editing text in iPhone

2012-06-18 Thread Tara Prakash
Okay thanks. Can you explain pinch gesture. I wrote some thing which I want 
to paste to other edit fields. What exactly do I need to do?

Regards

- Original Message - 
From: Jennie Facer pup...@me.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 1:29 PM
Subject: RE: Editing text in iPhone


You have to use the pinch gesture to select text first of all. Than you 
use

your roter and go to edit. Here, you flick down to choose what you want to
do.

Hope this helps,

Jenn

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Tara Prakash
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 10:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

I remember it is possible to cut copy and paste text from edit field. Can
you please let me know how?


- Original Message - 
From: Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone


Hi, first set your rotor to characters. Now, in short, if you swipe
down, you are moving forward. If you swipe up, you are moving backward.
Your cursor is landing between the letters. So, if you have the first 7
letters of the alphabet, abcdefg, and you swipe down until you hear c,
that means your cursor is between c and d. If you double-tap delete, you
will delete the letter c because you are moving forward and c is the
last letter you heard. Now, again, taking abcdefg and let's say you are
swiping up and the last letter you heard was b, that means your cursor
is between a and b. This is because you are moving backwards and the
last letter you heard was b, so this time if you press delete, the
letter a will be deleted.

Also, check the archives of this list as this topic was discussed
recently. Maybe they will help with a better explanation.

Good luck.

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other half is spent trying to lose weight.
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Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74


On 6/18/2012 8:25 AM, Lea Langley wrote:

Hi all, I have trouble with the delete part of editing. I never can seem
to get the cursor in the right place to delete the right character. I
would really appreciate some help on this. Thank you so much for
everything to all of you on the list. God bless, Wren

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 17, 2012, at 6:39 PM, hunter weeksca...@yahoo.com wrote:


Should I do a recording of me editing text on my I touch and or iPad?
Editing on any iOS device works the same. If so, I will in a few days
when I get back to the place where I left my recorder. This is
assuming that nothing comes up, and y'all want a recording. Oh yes,
I'm typing this on the screen of my iPad. LOL.

David Chittenden wrote:

Yep, anything is a royal pain until you practice and get good at it. I
do most of my writing on my iPhone, even the initial drafts of my
research papers.


David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 17/06/2012, at 11:36, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:

Well, I don't do a lot of it because I don't write long messages on 
the


phone, but I do know that control C and control V still work as they 
do



in Windows.  Sorry, I just do not use the phone for a writing tool and
one reason is because editing is a royal pain, if I ever get Siri
things might change but then maybe not.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Lange
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

Hi,
How do you do text selecttion with a bluetooth keyboard, and by what
units of text can you select?

Thanks.
Tom

- Original Message -
From: Rose Combs
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 9:26 AM
Subject: RE: Editing text in iPhone

The edit function and cut and paste on the phone itself is junk, said
from someone who much prefers using a keyboard when needing to edit
where ctrl v and c work and where deleting works with separate keys so
you know exactly if you are going the right direction.  I very much
hate editing on the phone itself, if Vokul makes a mistake, in fact, I
just leave it there, and if I make a horrible on typing I just delete
the whole thing and try again.  I don't do lengthy messages or e-mail
on the phone, only mail I get is to send phone numbers to the address
connected to the phone because reading e-mail on the phone is not for
me at least a pleasant experience.  I have lots of uses for the phone
but editing, cutting and pasting are not among them unless I am bored
and feel I have nothing else to do.

I like the phone and it goes everywhere with me but those functions 
and



the rotors are my least favorite.  Practice in those cases does not
make perfect, just frustration.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Re: How to stop messages from being read on the lock screen

2012-06-18 Thread VaShaun Jones
Thanks I was helping someone and this totally escaped my mind.
On Jun 18, 2012, at 10:06 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:

 Settings - General - Accessibility - Voice Over and look for Speak
 notifications in lock screen and make sure it's toggled to off.
 
 On 18/06/12 08:59, VaShaun Jones wrote:
 Listers where is the setting that disables the text messages from being read 
 on the lock screen?
 
 
 
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 chaltain at Gmail
 
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Re: Editing text in iPhone

2012-06-18 Thread Eric SS
Jenny, you first must be in and edit field. You will want to choose character 
word or line. Then place your index and middle fingers in the middle of the 
screen. To select a character, word or line, spread your fingers slowly apart. 
If you are selecting by line, you will hear all of the line spoken or maybe 
just the last few words. You will lift your fingers, put them together and put 
them back on the screen and spread them apart again to select more lines. Some 
people have found other maneuvers to accomplish this, such as putting both for 
fingers on the screen and pulling them apart. I have not had luck with that 
method. If you find that you have selected a line too many, you can simply 
squeeze your fingers back together to unselect that character, word or line. 
Once you think you have selected all necessary, then use the rotor to get to 
edit and flip your finger up or down to select copy or cut, etc.

Hope this helps some. It does take some practice and some frustration, too.

Eric

Telephone: (614)522-9725 
Skype: sseric57


On Jun 18, 2012, at 2:46 PM, Tara Prakash taraprak...@gmail.com wrote:

Okay thanks. Can you explain pinch gesture. I wrote some thing which I want to 
paste to other edit fields. What exactly do I need to do?
Regards

- Original Message - From: Jennie Facer pup...@me.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 1:29 PM
Subject: RE: Editing text in iPhone


 You have to use the pinch gesture to select text first of all. Than you use
 your roter and go to edit. Here, you flick down to choose what you want to
 do.
 
 Hope this helps,
 
 Jenn
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Tara Prakash
 Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 10:37 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone
 
 I remember it is possible to cut copy and paste text from edit field. Can
 you please let me know how?
 
 
 - Original Message - From: Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 11:01 AM
 Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone
 
 
 Hi, first set your rotor to characters. Now, in short, if you swipe
 down, you are moving forward. If you swipe up, you are moving backward.
 Your cursor is landing between the letters. So, if you have the first 7
 letters of the alphabet, abcdefg, and you swipe down until you hear c,
 that means your cursor is between c and d. If you double-tap delete, you
 will delete the letter c because you are moving forward and c is the
 last letter you heard. Now, again, taking abcdefg and let's say you are
 swiping up and the last letter you heard was b, that means your cursor
 is between a and b. This is because you are moving backwards and the
 last letter you heard was b, so this time if you press delete, the
 letter a will be deleted.
 
 Also, check the archives of this list as this topic was discussed
 recently. Maybe they will help with a better explanation.
 
 Good luck.
 
 --
 Raul A. Gallegos
 America: a country where half the money is spent buying food, and the
 other half is spent trying to lose weight.
 Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
 Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74
 
 
 On 6/18/2012 8:25 AM, Lea Langley wrote:
 Hi all, I have trouble with the delete part of editing. I never can seem
 to get the cursor in the right place to delete the right character. I
 would really appreciate some help on this. Thank you so much for
 everything to all of you on the list. God bless, Wren
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 17, 2012, at 6:39 PM, hunter weeksca...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Should I do a recording of me editing text on my I touch and or iPad?
 Editing on any iOS device works the same. If so, I will in a few days
 when I get back to the place where I left my recorder. This is
 assuming that nothing comes up, and y'all want a recording. Oh yes,
 I'm typing this on the screen of my iPad. LOL.
 
 David Chittenden wrote:
 Yep, anything is a royal pain until you practice and get good at it. I
 do most of my writing on my iPhone, even the initial drafts of my
 research papers.
 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 17/06/2012, at 11:36, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Well, I don't do a lot of it because I don't write long messages on the
 
 phone, but I do know that control C and control V still work as they do
 
 in Windows.  Sorry, I just do not use the phone for a writing tool and
 one reason is because editing is a royal pain, if I ever get Siri
 things might change but then maybe not.
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of Tom Lange
 Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:10 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone
 
 Hi,
 How do you do text selecttion with a bluetooth keyboard, and by what
 units of text 

Re: Ootunes Recordings (was stereo recording (was Recorder suggestions))

2012-06-18 Thread Carol Pearson

So, does it work in conjunction with ITunes or indedependently?

Carol P
 Original Message 
From: Courtney Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: Ootunes Recordings (was stereo recording (was
Recorder suggestions)) 


Hi Carol,
I've never tried the Windows version, since I only use a
mac, but the mac version works really really, I use it
almost every day. Courtney 
On Jun 18, 2012, at 7:26 AM, Carol Pearson wrote:



Yes, it is available for Windows also.

I've looked at it and it looks like something we all
ought to have ... but does it really work? 


I'd value any feedback from anyone who's already tried
it or gets round to it before I do!  Smiles 


Carol P
 Original Message 
From: Courtney Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: Ootunes Recordings (was stereo recording
(was 
Recorder suggestions))



Hi,
Actually, this isn't exactly the case, at least on the
mac. There's an app from digidna called Disc Aid. I
think they make it for windows too. There's a checkbox
under the advanced tab in the settings, it says
something like show apps even if sharing isn't enabled.
Check that box, then you can get your ootunes
recordings. I was so happy when I got that app.
Hope this helps,
Courtney
On Jun 16, 2012, at 10:41 PM, Brett wrote:



 Hi.

 The only way to transfer ootunes recordings to the pc
 is to be jailbrokdn. Sent from Brett's iPhone

 On 17/06/2012, at 9:32 AM, Fonarak
 fona...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi. On the subject of Ootunes, anyone know how to get
 those recordings, via
 the PC, perhaps? Can I do it with Phone Disk or
 similar? If so, where will I
 find the files, please? Someone wants a program I
 recorded the other day,
 but I haven't worked out how to get it for them yet.

 Thanks.

 Fi

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Jonathan Mosen
 Sent: 16 June 2012 23:01
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: stereo recording (was Recorder
 suggestions)

 Ootunes can do what it does because it is simply
 dumping the data stream it
 is receiving over the Internet to a file. It isn't
 possible to record
 directly from the iPhone's audio output, because the
 hardware isn't capable
 of doing so.

 Jonathan

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Anthony Vece
 Sent: Sunday, 17 June 2012 9:58 a.m.
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: stereo recording (was Recorder
 suggestions)

 Hi FI;

 I don't think this is the type of recording I had in
 mind.
 Let me explain further.

 The ootunes app records what it hears automatically.
 I don't believe it uses a mic because the recording
 quality is too good.

 In other words I would like to record music that is
 being played on my
 iPhone 4S.

 I hope my explanation was precise.

 Anthony

 Sent from my Verizon iPhone!

 On Jun 16, 2012, at 5:40 PM, Fonarak
 fona...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi Anthony. Just be aware that you need something
 like a Tascam IM2 or
 a Fostex AR4I to get the phone to record in stereo,
 as it only has a mono microphone. They are both
 fantastic, but I really recommend the Fostex,
 although it is a bit big, so it depends what your
 priorities are.

 The Tascam is good because it will also work with an
 iPad. Also, the Fostex will only work with the
 iPhone 4 and 4s, because it cradles the phone, or
 iPod Touch. My Dad has an iPhone 3gs and we tried
 to fit it in, but it was too big. Just mentioning
 this, as not sure which iPhone you have, plus might
 be useful for others to know.

 Not sure if earlier iPod Touches fit in the Fostex
 or not, as both
 mine are quite new. Yes ... I said both!!!

 Fi

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
 Anthony Vece
 Sent: 16 June 2012 22:03
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Recorder suggestions

 Thank you Eric.
 I'll download it and, put it through its paces.

 Thanks Again
 Anthony


 Sent from my Verizon iPhone!

 On Jun 16, 2012, at 4:33 PM, Eric Caron
 ecar...@comcast.net wrote:

 Hi Anthony,

 List Recorder settings allow for high quality
 recording up to CD quality.
 I would expect your results would only be limited by
 the iPhone and other hardware.  .  List Recorder is
 set up to allow stereo recording.
 I suspect others could comment better on your
 question as I have
 only
 used the recorder for spoken sounds.

 Eric Caron
 On Jun 16, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Anthony Vece wrote:

 Will this app let you record music in high
 quality? 



 Sent from my Verizon iPhone!

 On Jun 16, 2012, at 9:33 AM, Eric Caron
 eric.caro...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Fonarak

 In List Recorder Full version, the recording
 times do not have a limit.
 Only your Device memory will limit the size.
 Yes, List Recorder lets you send the recording 

Re: Ootunes Recordings (was stereo recording (was Recorder suggestions))

2012-06-18 Thread Courtney Curran
Hi,
It works independently.
Courtney
On Jun 18, 2012, at 4:06 PM, Carol Pearson wrote:

 So, does it work in conjunction with ITunes or indedependently?
 
 Carol P
  Original Message 
 From: Courtney Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 3:26 PM
 Subject: Re: Ootunes Recordings (was stereo recording (was
 Recorder suggestions)) 
 Hi Carol,
 I've never tried the Windows version, since I only use a
 mac, but the mac version works really really, I use it
 almost every day. Courtney On Jun 18, 2012, at 7:26 AM, Carol Pearson wrote:
 
 Yes, it is available for Windows also.
 
 I've looked at it and it looks like something we all
 ought to have ... but does it really work? 
 I'd value any feedback from anyone who's already tried
 it or gets round to it before I do!  Smiles 
 Carol P
  Original Message 
 From: Courtney Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 4:01 PM
 Subject: Re: Ootunes Recordings (was stereo recording
 (was Recorder suggestions))
 
 Hi,
 Actually, this isn't exactly the case, at least on the
 mac. There's an app from digidna called Disc Aid. I
 think they make it for windows too. There's a checkbox
 under the advanced tab in the settings, it says
 something like show apps even if sharing isn't enabled.
 Check that box, then you can get your ootunes
 recordings. I was so happy when I got that app.
 Hope this helps,
 Courtney
 On Jun 16, 2012, at 10:41 PM, Brett wrote:
 
 
 
  Hi.
 
  The only way to transfer ootunes recordings to the pc
  is to be jailbrokdn. Sent from Brett's iPhone
 
  On 17/06/2012, at 9:32 AM, Fonarak
  fona...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
  Hi. On the subject of Ootunes, anyone know how to get
  those recordings, via
  the PC, perhaps? Can I do it with Phone Disk or
  similar? If so, where will I
  find the files, please? Someone wants a program I
  recorded the other day,
  but I haven't worked out how to get it for them yet.
 
  Thanks.
 
  Fi
 
  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com
  [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
  Of Jonathan Mosen
  Sent: 16 June 2012 23:01
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: stereo recording (was Recorder
  suggestions)
 
  Ootunes can do what it does because it is simply
  dumping the data stream it
  is receiving over the Internet to a file. It isn't
  possible to record
  directly from the iPhone's audio output, because the
  hardware isn't capable
  of doing so.
 
  Jonathan
 
  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com
  [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
  Of Anthony Vece
  Sent: Sunday, 17 June 2012 9:58 a.m.
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: stereo recording (was Recorder
  suggestions)
 
  Hi FI;
 
  I don't think this is the type of recording I had in
  mind.
  Let me explain further.
 
  The ootunes app records what it hears automatically.
  I don't believe it uses a mic because the recording
  quality is too good.
 
  In other words I would like to record music that is
  being played on my
  iPhone 4S.
 
  I hope my explanation was precise.
 
  Anthony
 
  Sent from my Verizon iPhone!
 
  On Jun 16, 2012, at 5:40 PM, Fonarak
  fona...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
  Hi Anthony. Just be aware that you need something
  like a Tascam IM2 or
  a Fostex AR4I to get the phone to record in stereo,
  as it only has a mono microphone. They are both
  fantastic, but I really recommend the Fostex,
  although it is a bit big, so it depends what your
  priorities are.
 
  The Tascam is good because it will also work with an
  iPad. Also, the Fostex will only work with the
  iPhone 4 and 4s, because it cradles the phone, or
  iPod Touch. My Dad has an iPhone 3gs and we tried
  to fit it in, but it was too big. Just mentioning
  this, as not sure which iPhone you have, plus might
  be useful for others to know.
 
  Not sure if earlier iPod Touches fit in the Fostex
  or not, as both
  mine are quite new. Yes ... I said both!!!
 
  Fi
 
  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com
  [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
  Anthony Vece
  Sent: 16 June 2012 22:03
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Recorder suggestions
 
  Thank you Eric.
  I'll download it and, put it through its paces.
 
  Thanks Again
  Anthony
 
 
  Sent from my Verizon iPhone!
 
  On Jun 16, 2012, at 4:33 PM, Eric Caron
  ecar...@comcast.net wrote:
 
  Hi Anthony,
 
  List Recorder settings allow for high quality
  recording up to CD quality.
  I would expect your results would only be limited by
  the iPhone and other hardware.  .  List Recorder is
  set up to allow stereo recording.
  I suspect others could comment better on your
  question as I have
  only
  used the recorder for spoken sounds.
 
  Eric Caron
  On Jun 16, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Anthony Vece wrote:
 
  Will this app let you record music in high
  quality? 
 
  Sent from my Verizon iPhone!
 
  On 

Re: THINKING ABOUT A MAC!

2012-06-18 Thread Carol Pearson
So you can actually install Windows onto a Mac computer?  Do you use VO when 
under Windows, or have to use Windows capable speech?


Thanks for everyone's answers so far.  I am reading with interest.

Sorry for the questions but I am genuinely interested and need to buy within 
the next few months, I would think.


Carol P
 Original Message 
From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: THINKING ABOUT A MAC!


Hi Carol,

Well I use a Mac for nearly everything. THe only time I
use WIndows is on a VM at work and mainly because I need
to ensure 100% compatibility for Microsoft Word. If
Microsoft would get its thumb out and make the Office
suite accessible I might not need Windows at all.
However, with that said I consider myself to be very
efficient using the Mac, but then I also have a good
number of years experience. Therefore, if you are willing
to accept that there will be a learning curve and you are
prepared to put the time in, then you will do just fine.
Remember the effort it took to master the world of iOS.
:)
THe best thing is you can always have both with the Mac.
You can run the Mac and WIndows for things that you
really cannot live without. Hey you can even run Linux on
that VM if yo like. :)

On Jun 18, 2012, at 8:01 AM, Carol Pearson wrote:

 Hi all,

 The time is coming now to replace my current desktop
 and I'm thinking about a Mac.

 Seriously, though, can you really work as quickly when
 it comes to editing docs?

 What is out there that will work for database and word
 processing that will give you the full functionality
 you expect?

 Carol P

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Re: THINKING ABOUT A MAC!

2012-06-18 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I haven't done this myself, but I looked into it a while ago. You can
use a program like Bootcamp to dual boot between Windows and OSX. When
you boot up in Windows, you'll have to use a Windows screen reader. You
can also use a program like Fusion to run Windows in a virtual machine.
Again, you'll have to use VO when working in OSC and a Windows screen
reader when working in Windows.

I'm not a moderator, but it seems like this is a bit off topic for this
list. I'm also thinking there are Mac lists for the blind where this
would be on topic and you might get more information.

On 18/06/12 15:19, Carol Pearson wrote:
 So you can actually install Windows onto a Mac computer?  Do you use VO
 when under Windows, or have to use Windows capable speech?
 
 Thanks for everyone's answers so far.  I am reading with interest.
 
 Sorry for the questions but I am genuinely interested and need to buy
 within the next few months, I would think.
 
 Carol P
  Original Message 
 From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 4:57 PM
 Subject: Re: THINKING ABOUT A MAC!
 
 Hi Carol,

 Well I use a Mac for nearly everything. THe only time I
 use WIndows is on a VM at work and mainly because I need
 to ensure 100% compatibility for Microsoft Word. If
 Microsoft would get its thumb out and make the Office
 suite accessible I might not need Windows at all.
 However, with that said I consider myself to be very
 efficient using the Mac, but then I also have a good
 number of years experience. Therefore, if you are willing
 to accept that there will be a learning curve and you are
 prepared to put the time in, then you will do just fine.
 Remember the effort it took to master the world of iOS.
 :)
 THe best thing is you can always have both with the Mac.
 You can run the Mac and WIndows for things that you
 really cannot live without. Hey you can even run Linux on
 that VM if yo like. :)

 On Jun 18, 2012, at 8:01 AM, Carol Pearson wrote:

  Hi all,
 
  The time is coming now to replace my current desktop
  and I'm thinking about a Mac.
 
  Seriously, though, can you really work as quickly when
  it comes to editing docs?
 
  What is out there that will work for database and word
  processing that will give you the full functionality
  you expect?
 
  Carol P
 
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Re: THINKING ABOUT A MAC!

2012-06-18 Thread Carol Pearson
OK, I guess I should say now that I have sufficient information to go the 
next step of taking a proper look via the Apple store, so let's not get more 
off topic.


I wasn't on other such lists and needed some answers without going onto more 
lists;  but I respect it's probably way off topic, by what you're saying.


Many apologies.  At one stage I thought both subjects could be discussed, 
but I've obviously mixed this with another list so, apologies again, and 
let's move on, please!


Carol P
 Original Message 
From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: THINKING ABOUT A MAC!


I haven't done this myself, but I looked into it a while
ago. You can use a program like Bootcamp to dual boot
between Windows and OSX. When you boot up in Windows,
you'll have to use a Windows screen reader. You can also
use a program like Fusion to run Windows in a virtual
machine. Again, you'll have to use VO when working in OSC
and a Windows screen reader when working in Windows.

I'm not a moderator, but it seems like this is a bit off
topic for this list. I'm also thinking there are Mac
lists for the blind where this would be on topic and you
might get more information.

On 18/06/12 15:19, Carol Pearson wrote:

So you can actually install Windows onto a Mac computer?
Do you use VO when under Windows, or have to use Windows
capable speech?

Thanks for everyone's answers so far.  I am reading with
interest.

Sorry for the questions but I am genuinely interested
and need to buy within the next few months, I would
think.

Carol P
 Original Message 
From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: THINKING ABOUT A MAC!


Hi Carol,

Well I use a Mac for nearly everything. THe only time I
use WIndows is on a VM at work and mainly because I need
to ensure 100% compatibility for Microsoft Word. If
Microsoft would get its thumb out and make the Office
suite accessible I might not need Windows at all.
However, with that said I consider myself to be very
efficient using the Mac, but then I also have a good
number of years experience. Therefore, if you are
willing to accept that there will be a learning curve
and you are prepared to put the time in, then you will
do just fine. Remember the effort it took to master the
world of iOS. :)
THe best thing is you can always have both with the Mac.
You can run the Mac and WIndows for things that you
really cannot live without. Hey you can even run Linux
on that VM if yo like. :)

On Jun 18, 2012, at 8:01 AM, Carol Pearson wrote:

 Hi all,

 The time is coming now to replace my current desktop
 and I'm thinking about a Mac.

 Seriously, though, can you really work as quickly when
 it comes to editing docs?

 What is out there that will work for database and word
 processing that will give you the full functionality
 you expect?

 Carol P

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RE: Editing text in iPhone

2012-06-18 Thread Jennie Facer
You put your fingers on the phone and pinch them together to select, and
pull them apart to deselect. It takes a lot of practice, but it can be done.

Jenn

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Tara Prakash
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 12:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

Okay thanks. Can you explain pinch gesture. I wrote some thing which I want
to paste to other edit fields. What exactly do I need to do?
Regards

- Original Message -
From: Jennie Facer pup...@me.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 1:29 PM
Subject: RE: Editing text in iPhone


 You have to use the pinch gesture to select text first of all. Than you 
 use
 your roter and go to edit. Here, you flick down to choose what you want to
 do.

 Hope this helps,

 Jenn

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Tara Prakash
 Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 10:37 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

 I remember it is possible to cut copy and paste text from edit field. Can
 you please let me know how?


 - Original Message - 
 From: Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 11:01 AM
 Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone


 Hi, first set your rotor to characters. Now, in short, if you swipe
 down, you are moving forward. If you swipe up, you are moving backward.
 Your cursor is landing between the letters. So, if you have the first 7
 letters of the alphabet, abcdefg, and you swipe down until you hear c,
 that means your cursor is between c and d. If you double-tap delete, you
 will delete the letter c because you are moving forward and c is the
 last letter you heard. Now, again, taking abcdefg and let's say you are
 swiping up and the last letter you heard was b, that means your cursor
 is between a and b. This is because you are moving backwards and the
 last letter you heard was b, so this time if you press delete, the
 letter a will be deleted.

 Also, check the archives of this list as this topic was discussed
 recently. Maybe they will help with a better explanation.

 Good luck.

 --
 Raul A. Gallegos
 America: a country where half the money is spent buying food, and the
 other half is spent trying to lose weight.
 Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
 Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74


 On 6/18/2012 8:25 AM, Lea Langley wrote:
 Hi all, I have trouble with the delete part of editing. I never can seem
 to get the cursor in the right place to delete the right character. I
 would really appreciate some help on this. Thank you so much for
 everything to all of you on the list. God bless, Wren

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 17, 2012, at 6:39 PM, hunter weeksca...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Should I do a recording of me editing text on my I touch and or iPad?
 Editing on any iOS device works the same. If so, I will in a few days
 when I get back to the place where I left my recorder. This is
 assuming that nothing comes up, and y'all want a recording. Oh yes,
 I'm typing this on the screen of my iPad. LOL.

 David Chittenden wrote:
 Yep, anything is a royal pain until you practice and get good at it. I
 do most of my writing on my iPhone, even the initial drafts of my
 research papers.


 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone

 On 17/06/2012, at 11:36, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well, I don't do a lot of it because I don't write long messages on 
 the

 phone, but I do know that control C and control V still work as they 
 do

 in Windows.  Sorry, I just do not use the phone for a writing tool and
 one reason is because editing is a royal pain, if I ever get Siri
 things might change but then maybe not.


 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of Tom Lange
 Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:10 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

 Hi,
 How do you do text selecttion with a bluetooth keyboard, and by what
 units of text can you select?

 Thanks.
 Tom

 - Original Message -
 From: Rose Combs
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 9:26 AM
 Subject: RE: Editing text in iPhone

 The edit function and cut and paste on the phone itself is junk, said
 from someone who much prefers using a keyboard when needing to edit
 where ctrl v and c work and where deleting works with separate keys so
 you know exactly if you are going the right direction.  I very much
 hate editing on the phone itself, if Vokul makes a mistake, in fact, I
 just leave it there, and if I make a horrible on typing I just delete
 the whole thing and try again.  I don't do lengthy messages or e-mail
 on the phone, only mail I get is to send phone numbers to the address
 connected to 

RE: Editing text in iPhone

2012-06-18 Thread Jennie Facer
Please disregard my last email. Eric did a much better describing it. I had
it backwards evidently.

Jenn

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jennie Facer
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 3:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Editing text in iPhone

You put your fingers on the phone and pinch them together to select, and
pull them apart to deselect. It takes a lot of practice, but it can be done.

Jenn

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Tara Prakash
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 12:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

Okay thanks. Can you explain pinch gesture. I wrote some thing which I want
to paste to other edit fields. What exactly do I need to do?
Regards

- Original Message -
From: Jennie Facer pup...@me.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 1:29 PM
Subject: RE: Editing text in iPhone


 You have to use the pinch gesture to select text first of all. Than 
 you use your roter and go to edit. Here, you flick down to choose what 
 you want to do.

 Hope this helps,

 Jenn

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Tara Prakash
 Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 10:37 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

 I remember it is possible to cut copy and paste text from edit field. 
 Can you please let me know how?


 - Original Message -
 From: Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 11:01 AM
 Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone


 Hi, first set your rotor to characters. Now, in short, if you swipe 
 down, you are moving forward. If you swipe up, you are moving backward.
 Your cursor is landing between the letters. So, if you have the first 
 7 letters of the alphabet, abcdefg, and you swipe down until you hear 
 c, that means your cursor is between c and d. If you double-tap 
 delete, you will delete the letter c because you are moving forward 
 and c is the last letter you heard. Now, again, taking abcdefg and 
 let's say you are swiping up and the last letter you heard was b, that 
 means your cursor is between a and b. This is because you are moving 
 backwards and the last letter you heard was b, so this time if you 
 press delete, the letter a will be deleted.

 Also, check the archives of this list as this topic was discussed 
 recently. Maybe they will help with a better explanation.

 Good luck.

 --
 Raul A. Gallegos
 America: a country where half the money is spent buying food, and the 
 other half is spent trying to lose weight.
 Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
 Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74


 On 6/18/2012 8:25 AM, Lea Langley wrote:
 Hi all, I have trouble with the delete part of editing. I never can 
 seem to get the cursor in the right place to delete the right 
 character. I would really appreciate some help on this. Thank you so 
 much for everything to all of you on the list. God bless, Wren

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 17, 2012, at 6:39 PM, hunter weeksca...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Should I do a recording of me editing text on my I touch and or iPad?
 Editing on any iOS device works the same. If so, I will in a few 
 days when I get back to the place where I left my recorder. This is 
 assuming that nothing comes up, and y'all want a recording. Oh yes, 
 I'm typing this on the screen of my iPad. LOL.

 David Chittenden wrote:
 Yep, anything is a royal pain until you practice and get good at 
 it. I do most of my writing on my iPhone, even the initial drafts 
 of my research papers.


 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone

 On 17/06/2012, at 11:36, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well, I don't do a lot of it because I don't write long messages 
 on the

 phone, but I do know that control C and control V still work as 
 they do

 in Windows.  Sorry, I just do not use the phone for a writing tool 
 and one reason is because editing is a royal pain, if I ever get 
 Siri things might change but then maybe not.


 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
 On Behalf Of Tom Lange
 Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:10 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

 Hi,
 How do you do text selecttion with a bluetooth keyboard, and by 
 what units of text can you select?

 Thanks.
 Tom

 - Original Message -
 From: Rose Combs
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 9:26 AM
 Subject: RE: Editing text in iPhone

 The edit function and cut and paste on the phone itself is junk, 
 said from someone who much prefers using a keyboard when needing 
 to edit where ctrl v and c work and where deleting works with 
 separate keys so you know 

RE: Contacts database

2012-06-18 Thread Godwin Adoyi
Hello,
I'm in Ghana and I'm using MTN, iPhone 4s with the latest ios.
It works fine now that I've duplicates numbers ( one with international
prefix/code and other without ) in my contact database.
Thanks,
Godwin  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of David Chittenden
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 6:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Contacts database

Hello,

I am in New Zealand, and it works fine here. VO always announces the name of
the caller if in my contacts. Also, the last time I was in the states last
October, VO announced the names of my callers if in contacts. I am using an
iPhone 4 running iOS 5.1.1.


In other words, I am not experiencing the problem you have when using the
international + dialling sequence. What carrier are you using? I use
Vodafone here in NZ, and was on ATT in the states.


David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 18/06/2012, at 18:20, Godwin Adoyi gad...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Dave,
 I've done it that way, the result was that vo will mention the name of 
 the sender of a message but will not mention the name of the caller. 
 This is because the incoming calls are without international 
 prefix/code. I didn't have this problem when I was using Nokia e7. I 
 hope Apple has rectified this in ios 6? Meanwhile, I'll do what 
 someone in this lists suggested, to duplicate the number ( one with
international/code and other without ).
 Thanks for your contribution.
 Godwin
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of David Chittenden
 Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 8:21 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Contacts database
 
 Hello,
 
 Actually, just place +(country code)(phone number) one time per 
 number. You can then use it anywhere in the world you have phone 
 signal. This method even works with VOIP dialling services.
 
 Examples:
 The country code is +1 in the US, so the number in contacts would be
 +1551212 which the phone will then display as +1--555-1212.
 I live in NZ with country code +64. Thus, my mobile number is entered 
 as
 +64212288288 which is displayed as +64 21 228 8288 in contacts.
 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 18/06/2012, at 6:37, Godwin Adoyi gad...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 This is clever but it's tedious as my contact is over 600. If there 
 is no other way,  then I'm left with no choice but to do it that way.
 Thanks,
 Godwin . 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of AppleGourmet
 Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 6:17 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Contacts database
 
 Hi!
 One work around solution would be to have both numbers in your database.
 That means had the number with the international prefix and the 
 number without the international prefix  in the contact information. 
 This should solve your problem exclamation please let me know if it 
 works for you. It does for me!
 Best wishes!
 
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Re: It seems as though my phone is frozen, how do I reset it without losing stuff?

2012-06-18 Thread Jen Colley
It did.  Thanks.  
All is ok now.  

From: Reinhard Stebner 
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 10:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: It seems as though my phone is frozen, how do I reset it without 
losing stuff?

Try holding down the power button and the home button for at least 3 seconds 
and see if this brings back the phone.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jen Colley
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 10:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: It seems as though my phone is frozen, how do I reset it without 
losing stuff?

 

Hi,  

It seems like my phone is frozen so how do I restart it without losing 
anything?  

Jen  

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Re: temporarily stopping posts

2012-06-18 Thread Martin Nelson
Hello, Raul: thank you; my problem is that I don't know how to get to those 
choices. It seems to me that before at the end of a message there was a link 
that would take you there, but I don't find that now.

Help, please!
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From: Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: temporarily stopping posts


Hi, if you set your subscription to be only read on the web, that's what 
vacation mode is in terms you are probably thinking of. If you set it to 
only read on the web, it means you are still subscribed, but you don't get 
emailed with each message. Hope that helps.


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On 6/18/2012 8:16 AM, Martin Nelson wrote:

Hi, everyone: I will be going on vacation and I need to stop the sending
of the posts from this list due to the large volume. Apparently the
Google page has changed because I cannot find the option to have
messages not sent, only to be read on the web.
I would appreciate any help.
Thank you.
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Re: Editing text in iPhone

2012-06-18 Thread Monica Jones
I'm getting better at it but still not good lol. As David says, it takes 
practice.


-Original Message- 
From: hunter

Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 6:39 PM
To: VIPhone
Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

Should I do a recording of me editing text on my I touch and or iPad?
Editing on any iOS device works the same. If so, I will in a few days
when I get back to the place where I left my recorder. This is
assuming that nothing comes up, and y'all want a recording. Oh yes,
I'm typing this on the screen of my iPad. LOL.

David Chittenden wrote:
Yep, anything is a royal pain until you practice and get good at it. I do 
most of my writing on my iPhone, even the initial drafts of my research 
papers.



David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 17/06/2012, at 11:36, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well, I don't do a lot of it because I don't write long messages on the 
 phone, but I do know that control C and control V still work as they do 
 in Windows.  Sorry, I just do not use the phone for a writing tool and 
 one reason is because editing is a royal pain, if I ever get Siri things 
 might change but then maybe not.



 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Tom Lange

 Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:10 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

 Hi,
 How do you do text selecttion with a bluetooth keyboard, and by what 
 units of text can you select?


 Thanks.
 Tom

 - Original Message -
 From: Rose Combs
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 9:26 AM
 Subject: RE: Editing text in iPhone

 The edit function and cut and paste on the phone itself is junk, said 
 from someone who much prefers using a keyboard when needing to edit 
 where ctrl v and c work and where deleting works with separate keys so 
 you know exactly if you are going the right direction.  I very much hate 
 editing on the phone itself, if Vokul makes a mistake, in fact, I just 
 leave it there, and if I make a horrible on typing I just delete the 
 whole thing and try again.  I don't do lengthy messages or e-mail on the 
 phone, only mail I get is to send phone numbers to the address connected 
 to the phone because reading e-mail on the phone is not for me at least 
 a pleasant experience.  I have lots of uses for the phone but editing, 
 cutting and pasting are not among them unless I am bored and feel I have 
 nothing else to do.


 I like the phone and it goes everywhere with me but those functions and 
 the rotors are my least favorite.  Practice in those cases does not make 
 perfect, just frustration.



 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Chuck Dean

 Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 2:01 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

 Yes, as above, make sure you are going in the right direction.

 When I first got my iPhone I thought the edit function was junk until I 
 realized my mistake.

 Chuck

 On Friday, June 15, 2012 1:49:54 PM UTC-7, Rahul Bajaj wrote:
 Hi all,

 I often get really confused when I try to edit the text that I've typed.
 For example, when I want to edit a text message, I swipe down with one
 finger and VO reads the text character by character.
 Now, if I want to delete a character, I double tap  the  delete button.
 So, sometimes the character that VO last spoke gets deleted and at
 other times the character which was immediately before the character
 that VO last spoke gets deleted.
 So, how exactly does this work?
 Let's say I've made a spelling mistake and have written my name as R A
 H O U L instead of R A H U L.
 So, where should I press the delete button to delete the O?

 Thanks in advance for your assistance.

 Best,
 Rahul
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Re: Editing text in iPhone

2012-06-18 Thread Monica Jones
No lol I wouldn’t want to do a research paper without a keyboard.

From: Rose Combs 
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 9:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Editing text in iPhone

Now, I use a keyboard and Word all day long, I would never in this lifetime try 
writing a research paper on the phone itself, that would be punishment.  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
David Chittenden
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 5:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

 

Yep, anything is a royal pain until you practice and get good at it. I do most 
of my writing on my iPhone, even the initial drafts of my research papers.



David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA

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Mobile: +64 21 2288 288

Sent from my iPhone


On 17/06/2012, at 11:36, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:

  Well, I don't do a lot of it because I don't write long messages on the 
phone, but I do know that control C and control V still work as they do in 
Windows.  Sorry, I just do not use the phone for a writing tool and one reason 
is because editing is a royal pain, if I ever get Siri things might change but 
then maybe not.  

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Tom Lange
  Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:10 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

   

  Hi,

  How do you do text selecttion with a bluetooth keyboard, and by what units of 
text can you select?

   

  Thanks.

  Tom

   

- Original Message - 

From: Rose Combs 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 9:26 AM

Subject: RE: Editing text in iPhone

 

The edit function and cut and paste on the phone itself is junk, said from 
someone who much prefers using a keyboard when needing to edit where ctrl v and 
c work and where deleting works with separate keys so you know exactly if you 
are going the right direction.  I very much hate editing on the phone itself, 
if Vokul makes a mistake, in fact, I just leave it there, and if I make a 
horrible on typing I just delete the whole thing and try again.  I don't do 
lengthy messages or e-mail on the phone, only mail I get is to send phone 
numbers to the address connected to the phone because reading e-mail on the 
phone is not for me at least a pleasant experience.  I have lots of uses for 
the phone but editing, cutting and pasting are not among them unless I am bored 
and feel I have nothing else to do.  

 

I like the phone and it goes everywhere with me but those functions and the 
rotors are my least favorite.  Practice in those cases does not make perfect, 
just frustration.  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Chuck Dean
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 2:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

 

Yes, as above, make sure you are going in the right direction.

When I first got my iPhone I thought the edit function was junk until I 
realized my mistake.
Chuck

On Friday, June 15, 2012 1:49:54 PM UTC-7, Rahul Bajaj wrote:

Hi all, 

I often get really confused when I try to edit the text that I've typed. 
For example, when I want to edit a text message, I swipe down with one 
finger and VO reads the text character by character. 
Now, if I want to delete a character, I double tap  the  delete button. 
So, sometimes the character that VO last spoke gets deleted and at 
other times the character which was immediately before the character 
that VO last spoke gets deleted. 
So, how exactly does this work? 
Let's say I've made a spelling mistake and have written my name as R A 
H O U L instead of R A H U L. 
So, where should I press the delete button to delete the O? 

Thanks in advance for your assistance. 

Best, 
Rahul 

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Re: THINKING ABOUT A MAC!

2012-06-18 Thread Scott Howell
Maybe you mean iWOrks? This is a suite of apps including Pages, Numbers, and 
Keynote. These are available on both iOS and the Mac.

On Jun 18, 2012, at 2:31 PM, Anthony Vece wrote:

 How about iword?
 
 
 Sent from my Verizon iPhone!
 
 On Jun 18, 2012, at 11:52 AM, Hank Smith hanksm...@hanksmith.net wrote:
 
 Hello for word processing there is text edit
 that comes with the mac and there is also a pay app called mars edit.
 if memory serves, this is also vo friendly.
 hth
 Hank
 On 6/18/2012 5:01 AM, Carol Pearson wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 The time is coming now to replace my current desktop and I'm thinking about 
 a Mac.
 
 Seriously, though, can you really work as quickly when it comes to editing 
 docs?
 
 What is out there that will work for database and word processing that will 
 give you the full functionality you expect?
 
 Carol P
 
 
 
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Re: Editing text in iPhone

2012-06-18 Thread Monica Jones
Hey, it's what the list is for. If not, we may as well have archives and no 
list for discussion. It's not that I never use them, but there are new folks 
coming on the list all the time. What is old to us is new to them. If a 
topic doesn't need reading by myself, I delete it.


-Original Message- 
From: Eric SS

Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 7:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

Isn't everything old new again fairly quickly these days? This question was 
just discussed, hashed and rehashed two days ago.


Please take a look at the archives.



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On Jun 18, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Lea Langley wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

Hi all, I have trouble with the delete part of editing. I never can seem to 
get the cursor in the right place to delete the right character. I would 
really appreciate some help on this. Thank you so much for everything to all 
of you on the list. God bless, Wren


Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 17, 2012, at 6:39 PM, hunter weeksca...@yahoo.com wrote:


Should I do a recording of me editing text on my I touch and or iPad?
Editing on any iOS device works the same. If so, I will in a few days
when I get back to the place where I left my recorder. This is
assuming that nothing comes up, and y'all want a recording. Oh yes,
I'm typing this on the screen of my iPad. LOL.

David Chittenden wrote:
Yep, anything is a royal pain until you practice and get good at it. I do 
most of my writing on my iPhone, even the initial drafts of my research 
papers.



David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 17/06/2012, at 11:36, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:

Well, I don't do a lot of it because I don't write long messages on the 
phone, but I do know that control C and control V still work as they do 
in Windows.  Sorry, I just do not use the phone for a writing tool and 
one reason is because editing is a royal pain, if I ever get Siri things 
might change but then maybe not.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Tom Lange

Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

Hi,
How do you do text selecttion with a bluetooth keyboard, and by what 
units of text can you select?


Thanks.
Tom

- Original Message -
From: Rose Combs
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 9:26 AM
Subject: RE: Editing text in iPhone

The edit function and cut and paste on the phone itself is junk, said 
from someone who much prefers using a keyboard when needing to edit 
where ctrl v and c work and where deleting works with separate keys so 
you know exactly if you are going the right direction.  I very much hate 
editing on the phone itself, if Vokul makes a mistake, in fact, I just 
leave it there, and if I make a horrible on typing I just delete the 
whole thing and try again.  I don't do lengthy messages or e-mail on the 
phone, only mail I get is to send phone numbers to the address connected 
to the phone because reading e-mail on the phone is not for me at least 
a pleasant experience.  I have lots of uses for the phone but editing, 
cutting and pasting are not among them unless I am bored and feel I have 
nothing else to do.


I like the phone and it goes everywhere with me but those functions and 
the rotors are my least favorite.  Practice in those cases does not make 
perfect, just frustration.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Chuck Dean

Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 2:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

Yes, as above, make sure you are going in the right direction.

When I first got my iPhone I thought the edit function was junk until I 
realized my mistake.

Chuck

On Friday, June 15, 2012 1:49:54 PM UTC-7, Rahul Bajaj wrote:
Hi all,

I often get really confused when I try to edit the text that I've typed.
For example, when I want to edit a text message, I swipe down with one
finger and VO reads the text character by character.
Now, if I want to delete a character, I double tap  the  delete button.
So, sometimes the character that VO last spoke gets deleted and at
other times the character which was immediately before the character
that VO last spoke gets deleted.
So, how exactly does this work?
Let's say I've made a spelling mistake and have written my name as R A
H O U L instead of R A H U L.
So, where should I press the delete button to delete the O?

Thanks in advance for your assistance.

Best,
Rahul
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Re: THINKING ABOUT A MAC!

2012-06-18 Thread Hank Smith

there is mac visionaries.
its a mac group for the blind
hth
On 6/18/2012 1:23 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

I haven't done this myself, but I looked into it a while ago. You can
use a program like Bootcamp to dual boot between Windows and OSX. When
you boot up in Windows, you'll have to use a Windows screen reader. You
can also use a program like Fusion to run Windows in a virtual machine.
Again, you'll have to use VO when working in OSC and a Windows screen
reader when working in Windows.

I'm not a moderator, but it seems like this is a bit off topic for this
list. I'm also thinking there are Mac lists for the blind where this
would be on topic and you might get more information.

On 18/06/12 15:19, Carol Pearson wrote:

So you can actually install Windows onto a Mac computer?  Do you use VO
when under Windows, or have to use Windows capable speech?

Thanks for everyone's answers so far.  I am reading with interest.

Sorry for the questions but I am genuinely interested and need to buy
within the next few months, I would think.

Carol P
 Original Message 
From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: THINKING ABOUT A MAC!


Hi Carol,

Well I use a Mac for nearly everything. THe only time I
use WIndows is on a VM at work and mainly because I need
to ensure 100% compatibility for Microsoft Word. If
Microsoft would get its thumb out and make the Office
suite accessible I might not need Windows at all.
However, with that said I consider myself to be very
efficient using the Mac, but then I also have a good
number of years experience. Therefore, if you are willing
to accept that there will be a learning curve and you are
prepared to put the time in, then you will do just fine.
Remember the effort it took to master the world of iOS.
:)
THe best thing is you can always have both with the Mac.
You can run the Mac and WIndows for things that you
really cannot live without. Hey you can even run Linux on
that VM if yo like. :)

On Jun 18, 2012, at 8:01 AM, Carol Pearson wrote:


Hi all,

The time is coming now to replace my current desktop
and I'm thinking about a Mac.

Seriously, though, can you really work as quickly when
it comes to editing docs?

What is out there that will work for database and word
processing that will give you the full functionality
you expect?

Carol P

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Re: THINKING ABOUT A MAC!

2012-06-18 Thread Hank Smith

look at the mac mnin line of computers
hth
On 6/18/2012 1:49 PM, Reinhard Stebner wrote:

I am as well thinking of having a mac more for the experience and learning
of  new comptuer operating system than anything else. The question I have
about a mac is what type of machine should I be looking at getting if I just
want to do email, internet, music and simple word processing. Also, does mac
have a spreadsheet application?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Carol Pearson
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 8:01 AM
To: VI Phone Users
Subject: THINKING ABOUT A MAC!

Hi all,

The time is coming now to replace my current desktop and I'm thinking about
a Mac.

Seriously, though, can you really work as quickly when it comes to editing
docs?

What is out there that will work for database and word processing that will
give you the full functionality you expect?

Carol P




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Moderator message - Was Re: THINKING ABOUT A MAC!

2012-06-18 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi all. Just to be clear, the discussions on this list are for iOS 
related topics. Choosing a Mac isn't really fully on topic even though 
they are by the same company. However I also understand there can be 
some bleed over or some grey areas due to the sister list which I 
believe Cara also helps to run.


The list is MacVisionaries and you can definitely get a lot of help 
there concerning choosing a Mac. The list web address is below.


http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries

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On 6/18/2012 5:09 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

As I said, I'm not the moderator. I also went to the Google Groups page
for this group, and I didn't see any information on what was or wasn't
on topic for this list, but I'm probably just not looking in the right
place in this new Google Groups interface. I don't have any problems
myself with someone making initial inquiries like this on this list
since I know there are some very knowledgeably people on this list and I
know people don't want to subscribe to another list just to ask a
question or two. Once it gets kind of involved though, it seems to me
like another list might be more appropriate, but again, that's really up
to the moderators. If you're understanding of the list is different than
mine then please don't stop posting on this topic just because of my
opinion. Let the moderators be the judge of that. Sorry if I overstepped
my authority.

On 18/06/12 15:39, Carol Pearson wrote:

OK, I guess I should say now that I have sufficient information to go
the next step of taking a proper look via the Apple store, so let's not
get more off topic.

I wasn't on other such lists and needed some answers without going onto
more lists;  but I respect it's probably way off topic, by what you're
saying.

Many apologies.  At one stage I thought both subjects could be
discussed, but I've obviously mixed this with another list so, apologies
again, and let's move on, please!

Carol P
 Original Message 
From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: THINKING ABOUT A MAC!


I haven't done this myself, but I looked into it a while
ago. You can use a program like Bootcamp to dual boot
between Windows and OSX. When you boot up in Windows,
you'll have to use a Windows screen reader. You can also
use a program like Fusion to run Windows in a virtual
machine. Again, you'll have to use VO when working in OSC
and a Windows screen reader when working in Windows.

I'm not a moderator, but it seems like this is a bit off
topic for this list. I'm also thinking there are Mac
lists for the blind where this would be on topic and you
might get more information.

On 18/06/12 15:19, Carol Pearson wrote:

So you can actually install Windows onto a Mac computer?
Do you use VO when under Windows, or have to use Windows
capable speech?

Thanks for everyone's answers so far.  I am reading with
interest.

Sorry for the questions but I am genuinely interested
and need to buy within the next few months, I would
think.

Carol P
 Original Message 
From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: THINKING ABOUT A MAC!


Hi Carol,

Well I use a Mac for nearly everything. THe only time I
use WIndows is on a VM at work and mainly because I need
to ensure 100% compatibility for Microsoft Word. If
Microsoft would get its thumb out and make the Office
suite accessible I might not need Windows at all.
However, with that said I consider myself to be very
efficient using the Mac, but then I also have a good
number of years experience. Therefore, if you are
willing to accept that there will be a learning curve
and you are prepared to put the time in, then you will
do just fine. Remember the effort it took to master the
world of iOS. :)
THe best thing is you can always have both with the Mac.
You can run the Mac and WIndows for things that you
really cannot live without. Hey you can even run Linux
on that VM if yo like. :)

On Jun 18, 2012, at 8:01 AM, Carol Pearson wrote:


Hi all,

The time is coming now to replace my current desktop
and I'm thinking about a Mac.

Seriously, though, can you really work as quickly when
it comes to editing docs?

What is out there that will work for database and word
processing that will give you the full functionality
you expect?

Carol P

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Re: temporarily stopping posts

2012-06-18 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi, the link to get there is 
http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en and you should be able to 
edit your subscription from there. If you are still having trouble, 
please email me off list and I'll be happy to help further.


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On 6/18/2012 7:51 PM, Martin Nelson wrote:

Hello, Raul: thank you; my problem is that I don't know how to get to
those choices. It seems to me that before at the end of a message there
was a link that would take you there, but I don't find that now.
Help, please!
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: temporarily stopping posts



Hi, if you set your subscription to be only read on the web, that's
what vacation mode is in terms you are probably thinking of. If you
set it to only read on the web, it means you are still subscribed, but
you don't get emailed with each message. Hope that helps.

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Hi, everyone: I will be going on vacation and I need to stop the sending
of the posts from this list due to the large volume. Apparently the
Google page has changed because I cannot find the option to have
messages not sent, only to be read on the web.
I would appreciate any help.
Thank you.
Martin Nelson


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Re: temporarily stopping posts

2012-06-18 Thread Martin Nelson
Hello, Raul: the link you give here is that found in all the messages from 
the group.  problem is when I go to the Google page I can't find anything 
that indicates how to change my subscription. I remember seeing this 
function in a previous version of Google, but it appears that they have 
updated the page making it much less friendly for a user of Jaws. Have you 
checked  out the page recently? Per haps you can sho me where I can make the 
selection to have the posts only to be viewed on the web.

Sorry for the bother.
Thank you.
Sincerely,
Martin Nelson
martinels...@verizon.nett
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From: Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: temporarily stopping posts


Hi, the link to get there is http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en 
and you should be able to edit your subscription from there. If you are 
still having trouble, please email me off list and I'll be happy to help 
further.


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On 6/18/2012 7:51 PM, Martin Nelson wrote:

Hello, Raul: thank you; my problem is that I don't know how to get to
those choices. It seems to me that before at the end of a message there
was a link that would take you there, but I don't find that now.
Help, please!
- Original Message - From: Raul A. Gallegos
r...@raulgallegos.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: temporarily stopping posts



Hi, if you set your subscription to be only read on the web, that's
what vacation mode is in terms you are probably thinking of. If you
set it to only read on the web, it means you are still subscribed, but
you don't get emailed with each message. Hope that helps.

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On 6/18/2012 8:16 AM, Martin Nelson wrote:
Hi, everyone: I will be going on vacation and I need to stop the 
sending

of the posts from this list due to the large volume. Apparently the
Google page has changed because I cannot find the option to have
messages not sent, only to be read on the web.
I would appreciate any help.
Thank you.
Martin Nelson


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Moderator of the Mac Visionaries List

2012-06-18 Thread VaShaun Jones
Hi does anyone know how to reach the moderator of the Mac Visionaries list?

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Re: THINKING ABOUT A MAC!

2012-06-18 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
Hi:
Macs are definitely accessible. I use text edit, pages, and numbers for word 
processing and spreadsheets. Go to www.blindcooltech.com and listen to all the 
podcasts by Mike Arrigo. Just make sure you have everything transferred to your 
new Mac, and have your phone backed up to iCloud. You'll have to resync your 
phone with the Mac. It is easy to do.
On Jun 18, 2012, at 7:01 AM, Carol Pearson wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 The time is coming now to replace my current desktop and I'm thinking about a 
 Mac.
 
 Seriously, though, can you really work as quickly when it comes to editing 
 docs?
 
 What is out there that will work for database and word processing that will 
 give you the full functionality you expect?
 
 Carol P
 
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Re: THINKING ABOUT A MAC!

2012-06-18 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
Stop that! Going back and forth is the worst thing you can do! Trust me on 
that. 
On Jun 18, 2012, at 11:53 AM, Chuck Dean wrote:

 Hi Carol ,
 I bought a Mac back in January, and I still haven't gotten the hang of voice 
 over.
 I went to the Apple store, who were not much help, and tried to find tutorial 
 videos but not much is out there.
 
 I guess my problems stem from me going back and forth between Zoom and voice 
 over, something I do all the time on my PC. I do have some vision, so I only 
 want to use the screen reader for a few things. I can not find the proper 
 settings to run it like I run  my PC. Perhaps they do not exist.
 
 I run both Mac and PC through the same monitor using a VGA  A B switch.
 I am currently on a PC with Zoom Text, which never fails to disappoint me.
 As said above, there is a learning curve, it does not seem as intuitive as 
 the iPhone.
 Just my two cents worth,
 Chuck
 
 On Monday, June 18, 2012 5:01:06 AM UTC-7, Carol Pearson wrote:
 Hi all, 
 
 The time is coming now to replace my current desktop and I'm thinking about 
 a Mac. 
 
 Seriously, though, can you really work as quickly when it comes to editing 
 docs? 
 
 What is out there that will work for database and word processing that will 
 give you the full functionality you expect? 
 
 Carol P 
 
 
 On Monday, June 18, 2012 5:01:06 AM UTC-7, Carol Pearson wrote:
 Hi all, 
 
 The time is coming now to replace my current desktop and I'm thinking about 
 a Mac. 
 
 Seriously, though, can you really work as quickly when it comes to editing 
 docs? 
 
 What is out there that will work for database and word processing that will 
 give you the full functionality you expect? 
 
 Carol P 
 
 
 On Monday, June 18, 2012 5:01:06 AM UTC-7, Carol Pearson wrote:
 Hi all, 
 
 The time is coming now to replace my current desktop and I'm thinking about 
 a Mac. 
 
 Seriously, though, can you really work as quickly when it comes to editing 
 docs? 
 
 What is out there that will work for database and word processing that will 
 give you the full functionality you expect? 
 
 Carol P 
 
 
 On Monday, June 18, 2012 5:01:06 AM UTC-7, Carol Pearson wrote:
 Hi all, 
 
 The time is coming now to replace my current desktop and I'm thinking about 
 a Mac. 
 
 Seriously, though, can you really work as quickly when it comes to editing 
 docs? 
 
 What is out there that will work for database and word processing that will 
 give you the full functionality you expect? 
 
 Carol P 
 
 
 On Monday, June 18, 2012 5:01:06 AM UTC-7, Carol Pearson wrote:
 Hi all, 
 
 The time is coming now to replace my current desktop and I'm thinking about 
 a Mac. 
 
 Seriously, though, can you really work as quickly when it comes to editing 
 docs? 
 
 What is out there that will work for database and word processing that will 
 give you the full functionality you expect? 
 
 Carol P 
 
 
 On Monday, June 18, 2012 5:01:06 AM UTC-7, Carol Pearson wrote:
 Hi all, 
 
 The time is coming now to replace my current desktop and I'm thinking about 
 a Mac. 
 
 Seriously, though, can you really work as quickly when it comes to editing 
 docs? 
 
 What is out there that will work for database and word processing that will 
 give you the full functionality you expect? 
 
 Carol P 
 
 
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Re: Navigon

2012-06-18 Thread James Mannion
I too really like this app, but am very interested in what you mean
that they have confirmed routes for you when it seemed like you were
taking the scenic route? I have always found it to have issues with
taking the scenic route or it appears that it does. What do you mean
they confirmed? Let me also add that Navigon may have been slightly
but not much better in this regard. I first noticed the issue back
when Navigon was good in my opinion. I also no longer have any use for
Navigon. I too live in Portland.

Jim

On 6/17/12, Jordan Gallacher jgallacher1...@gmail.com wrote:
 GPS Drive seems to do so much better than Navigone ever did.  I don't
 recommend Navigone either because of the problems I have had and that I get
 no response from support.  GPS Drive while having to pay for it per month
 or
 per year is pretty accurate as far as I have been able to tell.  Support
 for
 it is excellent.  They have confirmed routes for me when it seems like I
 was
 taking the scenic route, helped me fix a problem when I messed something up
 with the app etc.
 Jordan

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Richard Turner
 Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 8:22 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Navigon

 The fact that Navigon thinks that I live in Lake Jeanclia, Oregon, is a
 problem.
 I am in Portland and there is no lake jeanclia in Oregon and I get no reply
 from their support people.
 So i cannot recommend navigon to anyone.
 Richard


 (Sent from my iPhone)

 On Jun 17, 2012, at 5:23 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com
 wrote:

 Right, but mapquest also relies on data connection at all times where as
 Navigon does not. That was my only point. Mapquest is very good as well.
 Good thing there are always choices. I just don't get what the fuss with
 people not liking Navigon is.

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 On 6/17/2012 1:33 AM, curmudgeon wrote:
 ddont bother buy ing navigon
 get mapquest
 its easier to use


 today is worst,
 than yesterday,
 but, not as bad,
 as tomorrow ,
 o, m, g,

 On Jun 14, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I asked the question about Navigon versus IOS 6 Maps a few days ago,
 and one difference that Raul pointed out, is that Maps in IOS 6 will
 need a data connection while Navigon will use locally stored maps.
 This will mean that you'll eat up your data plan if you're out and
 about using Maps. For this reason, it may still make sense to purchase
 Navigon.

 On 14/06/12 17:22, Mike Cassidy wrote:
 Hi Folks,

 I'm wondering about purchasing Navigon, but see that its review
 rating is only 2 stars; is this a true reflection of the app's
 value, or do people find Navigon worth the expenditure?

 Secondly, is the navigation app in IOS6 going to be a replacement
 for Navigon or similar?

 Thanks for your thoughts,

 Regards,

 Mike




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Re: Moderator of the Mac Visionaries List

2012-06-18 Thread Raul A. Gallegos

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RE: Navigon

2012-06-18 Thread Jordan Gallacher
They have looked the route up using Google Maps.
Jordan

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of James Mannion
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 9:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Navigon

I too really like this app, but am very interested in what you mean that
they have confirmed routes for you when it seemed like you were taking the
scenic route? I have always found it to have issues with taking the scenic
route or it appears that it does. What do you mean they confirmed? Let me
also add that Navigon may have been slightly but not much better in this
regard. I first noticed the issue back when Navigon was good in my opinion.
I also no longer have any use for Navigon. I too live in Portland.

Jim

On 6/17/12, Jordan Gallacher jgallacher1...@gmail.com wrote:
 GPS Drive seems to do so much better than Navigone ever did.  I don't 
 recommend Navigone either because of the problems I have had and that 
 I get no response from support.  GPS Drive while having to pay for it 
 per month or per year is pretty accurate as far as I have been able to 
 tell.  Support for it is excellent.  They have confirmed routes for me 
 when it seems like I was taking the scenic route, helped me fix a 
 problem when I messed something up with the app etc.
 Jordan

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Richard Turner
 Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 8:22 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Navigon

 The fact that Navigon thinks that I live in Lake Jeanclia, Oregon, is 
 a problem.
 I am in Portland and there is no lake jeanclia in Oregon and I get no 
 reply from their support people.
 So i cannot recommend navigon to anyone.
 Richard


 (Sent from my iPhone)

 On Jun 17, 2012, at 5:23 PM, Raul A. Gallegos 
 r...@raulgallegos.com
 wrote:

 Right, but mapquest also relies on data connection at all times where 
 as
 Navigon does not. That was my only point. Mapquest is very good as well.
 Good thing there are always choices. I just don't get what the fuss 
 with people not liking Navigon is.

 --
 Raul A. Gallegos
 All my life, I always wanted to be somebody. Now I see that I should 
 have been more specific. - Jane Wagner Home Page:
 http://raulgallegos.com
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 On 6/17/2012 1:33 AM, curmudgeon wrote:
 ddont bother buy ing navigon
 get mapquest
 its easier to use


 today is worst,
 than yesterday,
 but, not as bad,
 as tomorrow ,
 o, m, g,

 On Jun 14, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
 chalt...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I asked the question about Navigon versus IOS 6 Maps a few days ago, 
 and one difference that Raul pointed out, is that Maps in IOS 6 will 
 need a data connection while Navigon will use locally stored maps.
 This will mean that you'll eat up your data plan if you're out and 
 about using Maps. For this reason, it may still make sense to 
 purchase
 Navigon.

 On 14/06/12 17:22, Mike Cassidy wrote:
 Hi Folks,

 I'm wondering about purchasing Navigon, but see that its review 
 rating is only 2 stars; is this a true reflection of the app's 
 value, or do people find Navigon worth the expenditure?

 Secondly, is the navigation app in IOS6 going to be a replacement 
 for Navigon or similar?

 Thanks for your thoughts,

 Regards,

 Mike




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Re: THINKING ABOUT A MAC!

2012-06-18 Thread Pete Nalda
Fwiw, I never have problems using both zoom and VoiceOver on the Mac at the 
same time. I'll be glad to share my settings if anyone wants, off list. 

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On Jun 18, 2012, at 8:55 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Stop that! Going back and forth is the worst thing you can do! Trust me on 
 that. 
 On Jun 18, 2012, at 11:53 AM, Chuck Dean wrote:
 
 Hi Carol ,
 I bought a Mac back in January, and I still haven't gotten the hang of voice 
 over.
 I went to the Apple store, who were not much help, and tried to find 
 tutorial videos but not much is out there.
 
 I guess my problems stem from me going back and forth between Zoom and voice 
 over, something I do all the time on my PC. I do have some vision, so I only 
 want to use the screen reader for a few things. I can not find the proper 
 settings to run it like I run  my PC. Perhaps they do not exist.
 
 I run both Mac and PC through the same monitor using a VGA  A B switch.
 I am currently on a PC with Zoom Text, which never fails to disappoint me.
 As said above, there is a learning curve, it does not seem as intuitive as 
 the iPhone.
 Just my two cents worth,
 Chuck
 
 On Monday, June 18, 2012 5:01:06 AM UTC-7, Carol Pearson wrote:
 Hi all, 
 
 The time is coming now to replace my current desktop and I'm thinking about 
 a Mac. 
 
 Seriously, though, can you really work as quickly when it comes to editing 
 docs? 
 
 What is out there that will work for database and word processing that will 
 give you the full functionality you expect? 
 
 Carol P 
 
 
 On Monday, June 18, 2012 5:01:06 AM UTC-7, Carol Pearson wrote:
 Hi all, 
 
 The time is coming now to replace my current desktop and I'm thinking about 
 a Mac. 
 
 Seriously, though, can you really work as quickly when it comes to editing 
 docs? 
 
 What is out there that will work for database and word processing that will 
 give you the full functionality you expect? 
 
 Carol P 
 
 
 On Monday, June 18, 2012 5:01:06 AM UTC-7, Carol Pearson wrote:
 Hi all, 
 
 The time is coming now to replace my current desktop and I'm thinking about 
 a Mac. 
 
 Seriously, though, can you really work as quickly when it comes to editing 
 docs? 
 
 What is out there that will work for database and word processing that will 
 give you the full functionality you expect? 
 
 Carol P 
 
 
 On Monday, June 18, 2012 5:01:06 AM UTC-7, Carol Pearson wrote:
 Hi all, 
 
 The time is coming now to replace my current desktop and I'm thinking about 
 a Mac. 
 
 Seriously, though, can you really work as quickly when it comes to editing 
 docs? 
 
 What is out there that will work for database and word processing that will 
 give you the full functionality you expect? 
 
 Carol P 
 
 
 On Monday, June 18, 2012 5:01:06 AM UTC-7, Carol Pearson wrote:
 Hi all, 
 
 The time is coming now to replace my current desktop and I'm thinking about 
 a Mac. 
 
 Seriously, though, can you really work as quickly when it comes to editing 
 docs? 
 
 What is out there that will work for database and word processing that will 
 give you the full functionality you expect? 
 
 Carol P 
 
 
 On Monday, June 18, 2012 5:01:06 AM UTC-7, Carol Pearson wrote:
 Hi all, 
 
 The time is coming now to replace my current desktop and I'm thinking about 
 a Mac. 
 
 Seriously, though, can you really work as quickly when it comes to editing 
 docs? 
 
 What is out there that will work for database and word processing that will 
 give you the full functionality you expect? 
 
 Carol P 
 
 
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Re: THINKING ABOUT A MAC!

2012-06-18 Thread Hank Smith
you use windows speech eg jaws nvda or what ever u use normally on 
windows. its no different.

On 6/18/2012 1:19 PM, Carol Pearson wrote:
So you can actually install Windows onto a Mac computer?  Do you use 
VO when under Windows, or have to use Windows capable speech?


Thanks for everyone's answers so far.  I am reading with interest.

Sorry for the questions but I am genuinely interested and need to buy 
within the next few months, I would think.


Carol P
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Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: THINKING ABOUT A MAC!


Hi Carol,

Well I use a Mac for nearly everything. THe only time I
use WIndows is on a VM at work and mainly because I need
to ensure 100% compatibility for Microsoft Word. If
Microsoft would get its thumb out and make the Office
suite accessible I might not need Windows at all.
However, with that said I consider myself to be very
efficient using the Mac, but then I also have a good
number of years experience. Therefore, if you are willing
to accept that there will be a learning curve and you are
prepared to put the time in, then you will do just fine.
Remember the effort it took to master the world of iOS.
:)
THe best thing is you can always have both with the Mac.
You can run the Mac and WIndows for things that you
really cannot live without. Hey you can even run Linux on
that VM if yo like. :)

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 Hi all,

 The time is coming now to replace my current desktop
 and I'm thinking about a Mac.

 Seriously, though, can you really work as quickly when
 it comes to editing docs?

 What is out there that will work for database and word
 processing that will give you the full functionality
 you expect?

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Turning off saying of letters on keypad

2012-06-18 Thread Steve Vandecar
Hi,

How do you turn off the saying of letters when using the keypad?

thanks
Steve

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Re: Turning off saying of letters on keypad

2012-06-18 Thread Richard Turner
Turn off hints.

(Sent from my iPhone)

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 How do you turn off the saying of letters when using the keypad?
 
 thanks
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Re: Moderator of the Mac Visionaries List

2012-06-18 Thread VaShaun Jones
Thanks I sent them a message. I appreciate that.
On Jun 18, 2012, at 10:03 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote:

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Re: temporarily stopping posts

2012-06-18 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I'm using the new Google Groups interface. If I go to
http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en which is the link I find at
the bottom of each message, I have a My Membership button just above the
list of group messages. If I click on this button then I have the option
to go web only. Note I need to log onto the account I used to subscribe
to this mailing list before I see the My Membership button.

On 18/06/12 20:24, Martin Nelson wrote:
 Hello, Raul: the link you give here is that found in all the messages
 from the group.  problem is when I go to the Google page I can't find
 anything that indicates how to change my subscription. I remember seeing
 this function in a previous version of Google, but it appears that they
 have updated the page making it much less friendly for a user of Jaws.
 Have you checked  out the page recently? Per haps you can sho me where I
 can make the selection to have the posts only to be viewed on the web.
 Sorry for the bother.
 Thank you.
 Sincerely,
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 Subject: Re: temporarily stopping posts
 
 
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 http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en and you should be able to
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 please email me off list and I'll be happy to help further.

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 Hello, Raul: thank you; my problem is that I don't know how to get to
 those choices. It seems to me that before at the end of a message there
 was a link that would take you there, but I don't find that now.
 Help, please!
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 r...@raulgallegos.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 8:19 AM
 Subject: Re: temporarily stopping posts


 Hi, if you set your subscription to be only read on the web, that's
 what vacation mode is in terms you are probably thinking of. If you
 set it to only read on the web, it means you are still subscribed, but
 you don't get emailed with each message. Hope that helps.

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 sending
 of the posts from this list due to the large volume. Apparently the
 Google page has changed because I cannot find the option to have
 messages not sent, only to be read on the web.
 I would appreciate any help.
 Thank you.
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