Re: Suggestions Needed Concerning How to accumulate gold in Solara Game, and Questions to anyone who has completed the Game

2013-09-22 Thread Gary Petraccaro
That's not true for my version.  In mine, the gold accumulates for any 
particular shop until that shop has filled it's quota, at which time the 
accumulation for that shop or group of shops stops.  That means that if you 
have three shops of a type and they say 100 gold every 30 minutes, they 
don't make more gold after 30 minutes.  If you collect their gold, they 
start all over again.  If a shop goes for 8 hours, it stops after 8 hours.


- Original Message - 
From: Lea Langley wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: Suggestions Needed Concerning How to accumulate gold in Solara 
Game, and Questions to anyone who has completed the Game



Hi, once you have selected say for example jagged obsidian, it will stay 
selected until you change it. Yes the gold keeps accumulating automatically. 
Now here is something. One of you said that if you take a duplicate out the 
other one seems to go out as well. This does not happen with me. I have 
heard or read that there may be more than one addition of the game. Perhaps 
that has something to do with all of this. Interesting. I am sorry that I am 
not a very good explainer. About the gold yes, it does keep accumulating 
automatically and as long as you do not select the gold it will keep 
mounting up until he gets to a certain limit I believe this depends on how 
many shops you have and how much gold you can accumulate. If you keep 
flicking the button and it doesn't continue to add up the number that is 
there then you know you were at your limit. God bless, Wren


Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 19, 2013, at 7:49 AM, Jack Conti jackco...@cox.net wrote:

if you bought one it should be in there.  i have a couple of small 
duplicates, if i take one out the other seems to go as well.  you can put 
anything in there you like its your castle.  and you have multiple floors. 
someone can have a full castle and accumulate less than someone that has 
50 shops.  At 07:47 AM 9/19/2013, you wrote:
How do you keep it selected? I bought one of these long ago. Will the 
gold accumulate automatically?


Reggie and Allegra

On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:04 AM, Lea Langley wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net 
wrote:


Hi all,
Do you have duplicate shops in your castles? I was not sure this would be 
a fair way to play the game.



Here's a way I found to accumulate gold. Go to build and open it. Now go 
to upgrades. In upgrades there are tabs to collect gold plus a certain 
amount of gold from each shomp added on. I bought the jagged obsidian 
which gives gold plus 75 percent from each shop. Whatever button you 
select just keep it selected, and your gold will keep accumulating.

God Bless,
Wren


Hi all,
Do you have duplicate shops in your castles? I was not sure this would be 
a fair way to play the game.



Here's a way I found to accumulate gold. Go to build and open it. Now go 
to upgrades. In upgrades there are tabs to collect gold plus a certain 
amount of gold from each shop added on. I bought the jagged obsidian 
which gives gold plus 75 percent from each shop. Whatever button you 
select just keep it selected, and your gold will keep accumulating.

God Bless,
Wren


Hi all,
Do you have duplicate shops in your castles? I was not sure this would be 
a fair way to play the game.



Here's a way I found to accumulate gold. Go to build and open it. Now go 
to upgrades. In upgrades there are tabs to collect gold plus a certain 
amount of gold from each shop added on. I bought the jagged obsidian 
which gives gold plus 75 percent from each shop. Whatever button you 
select just keep it selected, and your gold will keep accumulating.

God Bless,
Wren



Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 17, 2013, at 6:58 PM, Chris Chaffin cchaf...@twcny.rr.com 
wrote:


 Hello Regina,

 Yes, you are correct.
 For example, I have two knights.  One knight will be at level 33, and 
 the other I will keep at level 32.


 Now, I personally do not use both of one type of hero, like knights, 
 very much at all.
 But if that time does arise, and I need both knights in a quest, then I 
 would go ahead and upgrade my other knight from 32 to 33 like the other 
 one.


 As also stated, if I am not going to be in a quest, and my food is 
 maxed out and is just sitting there, I will use it to upgrade some of 
 my heroes if I can.


 One other note:
 When building and adding to your castle, I would add food shops as much 
 as you can.  Don't worry, food shops also produce gold on top of 
 helping your food out.  Food shops adds to the maximum food you can 
 have.
 For example, your food might currently say 500/500 food.  The scecond 
 number is the maximum amount of food you can have, and the first number 
 is the amount of food you do have.
 Say you buy a food shop that says, plus 80 max food.  This means that 
 it would increase your second number of max food from 500 to 580.
 Once this food shop is built, you will see your 

RE: IMessage issue in IOS 7

2013-09-22 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Ming,

I have sent messages to at least 2 or 3 people who also have an iPhone and
iMessages work fine. Make sure your friend has iMessage turned on.


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Of Ming
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 9:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: IMessage issue in IOS 7

hi all,
after updated to IOS 7, anyone found that we can not send IMessage to some
friends who is also using IPhone. but, it works in IOS 6

Ming
msn/window live messenger
chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com
skype:
chungchiming9950

face book:
http://www.facebook.com/mingcm1

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RE: siri male voice, was: Re: How to Increase Siri's speech

2013-09-22 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Wren,

The SIRI voice have nothing whatsoever to do with any Accessibility
settings.
SIRI and SIRI voice function independently from any accessibility or
Voiceovber settings and the only place you can control SIRI is in Settings,
General, SIRI. Here you can change from the female to the male voice which I
much prefer. There is also no setting for compact or high quality, SIRI
voices are high quality and that is all there is to it.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Wren Langley
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 9:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: siri male voice, was: Re: How to Increase Siri's speech

Hi, I did as you said, I went to settings then general and then speak
selection and turned it on I tapped on voices, and then take English one but
I could not get the mail voice. I already have enhanced voice is turned on
and I only got Samantha for the download. Is there something else I should
have done. Thank you very much. I would love to have the Siri voice. God
bless Wren

Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 20, 2013, at 5:07 PM, Wes Smith wessmith...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Richard and all,
 I have both the male and female siri voices enhanced.
 WHat you have to do is go to settingsGeneralaccessibilitySpeak
Selection, turn that on, tap on the voices button, tap on English, then turn
on enhanced quality, and it will download them. 
 On Sep 20, 2013, at 2:35 PM, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com
wrote:
 
 Samantha is the only enhanced US voice. No, the Siri voices cannot be
used with VoiceOver.
 That would be nice, but isn't going to happen anytime soon, if ever.
 
 
 Richard
 (Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen)
 
 On Sep 20, 2013, at 1:32 PM, Melissa Tucker melissatuck...@att.net
wrote:
 
 Is samantha the only us inhanced voice, or is it possible for me to
replace samantha with siri's male voice?  I think I could get use to that
voice reading books and such.  
 
 On Sep 20, 2013, at 2:37 PM, Thom Spittle thom3...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 It doesn't seem to be possible, Joseph. Sorry, I'm in the boat with
you.
 Smiles.
 Thom
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
 On Behalf Of Joseph FreeTech
 Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 2:26 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: How to Increase Siri's speech
 
 Hi all,
 
 while trying out the many great new IOS7 features, I've discovered 
 that
 the
 new Siri makes me wince a little. Smile. Is there any way to 
 increase
 the
 speech? The Samantha voice sounds slow and a bit drunk. The male 
 voice sounds much more pleasant, but I'd like to increase the 
 voice tempo if possible. Does anyone know how to accomplish this feat?
 
 Joseph
 
 
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RE: how to re name folders in ios 7 on the 4s?

2013-09-22 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Joseph and Mich,

I would strongly discourage anybody from using the custom label feature
(double tap and hold) as Joseph described it to rename folders. 
You can properly rename a folder as follows:

1. Double tap on the folder to open it.
2. Do a 1-finger double tap and hold on either the folder name once the
folder is open or on one of the apps in the folder. If you do it on one of
the apps, let's say I have the Dropbox app in a folder called Business and
Productivity, then the double tap and hold will put you into moving mode
and Voiceover will say Moving Dropbox, Dropbox, is editing. If you do the
double tap and hold on the folder, you have to do another double tap and
hold to get into the actual editing mode.
3. If you did the gesture on an app, swipe left until you get to the folder
name or the Clear All button which will clear the edit field completely.
4. Delete part of the folder name or clear the entire field with the Clear
All button.
5. Type in what you want the folder to be called or do a 2-finger double tap
to start Dictating if you have an iPhone 4S or above and speak the folder
name.
6. Press the Home key to get out of editing mode, press home a second time
to close the folder.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Joseph FreeTech
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 10:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: how to re name folders in ios 7 on the 4s?

To rename a folder:
Focus on a folder then execute a 2-finger double-tap and hold.
You'll hear a cool little sound effect.
Now you can rename your folder.
When you have finished simply double-tap on save.

I used this method to remove the word folder after every folder. Since I
already know it's a folder, seems a bit redundant. Smile.

Joseph

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From: Mich mi...@eastlink.ca
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 10:05 PM
Subject: how to re name folders in ios 7 on the 4s?


Hi all. I just tonight spent about a hour and a bit dragging and dropping 
things in to some folders and creating them on my IPhone 4s with ios7. This 
was the first time I have dun this and I feel it went very well. I did have 
a question though. How do you go about re naming folders in ios7? I don't 
like some of the names that apple has for the folders and would like to re 
name them if at all possible. I also wish that apple would have a option 
where say if you have allot of games that instead of dragging and dropping 
them in to the games folder that it would just add them or be like a toggle 
where you could choose if you wanted to add this game to the games folder. 
from Mich.

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RE: 4 finger single tap bug?

2013-09-22 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi,

There are all sorts of easy ways to find a particular book in the Audible
app.
If you wan to go to the very first book you bought, all you have to do is
touch the 'Now Playing button which is right above the home key, then
swipe left once and there you are.
I am not saying there is room for improvement in iOS 7, but some things can
more easily or just as easily be done using a different method.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Shameless FanGirl
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 9:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 4 finger single tap bug?

I can, indeed. It's a massive annoyance. Try that in the audible app with a
library of over 1000 books. :( Annoying for sure.

Sent from my iPad

 On Sep 21, 2013, at 11:02 PM, Victor Marques victormarques0...@gmail.com
wrote:
 
 On my iPad mini, I notice sometimes that the 4 finger single tap 
 towards the bottom of the screen (which should take you to the last 
 element on the page) does sometimes work, but almost just as often it 
 has some unpredictable result, such as performing a tap action for 
 example.  Any of you able to repliccate this as a bug?
 
 Thanks
 Victor
 
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Re: Which color of 5S -was- Re: IOS 7.01 update?

2013-09-22 Thread Cara Quinn
Hi Pablo,

Yes, the glass is white, as in the same type of white as the white iPhone 5.

Hope this helps.

Smiles,

Cara :)
On Sep 21, 2013, at 11:03 AM, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:

when you said white glass. It is a very weird convination of colors. Gold and 
white. So when you said white glass you said white like a peace of paper?
 
- Original Message -
From: Cara Quinn
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 3:24 AM
Subject: Re: Which color of 5S -was- Re: IOS 7.01 update?

Hi Kellie,

the silver and Space Gray look almost identical to the white and black iPhone 
5, respectively.

The silver has a somewhat shiny aluminum back and white glass and the Space 
Gray seems to have a more anodized, matt grayish aluminum back with black glass.

The gold seems to be more of a champagne color so it would have a touch of pink 
to it. So it is somewhat shiny but is not a super shiny yellow gold but a more 
subdued champagne colored brushed aluminum look. At least this is what I am 
getting from friends describing it.

So the gold has this champagne colored aluminum back with white glass.

I'm personally looking at getting this one at the moment. So we'll see. I'll be 
looking at these in person first. This is the first year I've done this. 
Usually I order within the first minute the new iPhones are available. lol!

Anyway, hope this helps and have a great weekend!…

Smiles,

cara :)
On Sep 20, 2013, at 11:07 PM, Kellie and my lab pack pebbles...@gmail.com 
wrote:

since we are talking about the different colors is there anyone who is able to 
explain in more detail the type of colors each phone is?
 
I am total now but I had 20/20 for a while so remember colors. My friend’s boy 
friend, who is a high partial tried to describe it to me, but from what I am 
seeing on list there are a couple things that don’t fit with what he was 
saying. though, he was viewing the pics of the phones on an IPad so he may not 
have gotten a clear image.
 
I am wanting to know a couple things. Is the silver a shiny silver or more like 
a light gray? If so, is the entire phone shiny? or is it just certain parts, 
with the rest being more matte or dull  in color? Is it all one silver color or 
are there different shades?
 
with the space gray, is it actually a black, since I have heard people mention 
it is like the black phones they have had previously? when I think space gray, 
I think more gun metal gray, or chrome in color. And like the silver, is it 
solid color or different shades.
 
As for the gold phone, is it a shiny gold or more yellow. I know I have seen 
items which claim to be gold but really are yellow. My high school colors of 
blue and gold for instance. *smile* Is it shiny, and tdifferent shades? The 
gold phone sounds unique however, I am picky on that color so hesitate on 
ordering that one.
 
Thhanks in advance for anyone who is able to help me out with these questions.
Kellie, guide Loki and retired July
 
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 12:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Which color of 5S -was- Re: IOS 7.01 update?
 
Hi Rick and others,
I waited until this afternoon to place my order, but the shipping estimate here 
in Canada for the Gold, Silver and Black phones was the same this afternoon as 
they were at just after Midnight when I also checked. I was going to order an 
unlocked 5S 64 Gig in Gold directly from Apple, but all the shipping estimate 
said was “October”. When I called the sales line today the lady told me this 
could mean first week of October or fourth week of October. Anyhow, I also 
ordered one of the leather cases to see what it’s like and even if I don’t use 
it I’ll use another one which covers up most of the back of the phone. In the 
end I decided to go with the Space Grey, so basically the same Black phone I 
have now as my 4S.
The good thing is that my 4S happens to act up a lot with the proximity sensor. 
I called tech support and explained this to the agent, I told him I am planning 
to buy an unlocked 5S 64 Gig at full price just as I bought my 4S 64 Gig at 
full price 2 years ago. He agreed that I should not have to deal with this when 
trying to sell the phone, created a case and said my Apple Care runs out 
October 17. As long as I call before then they will send me a new 4S 64 Gig 
Black iPhone, well, maybe a refurbished one, but for my purposes it will be a 
new phone. I still have the original package, an originally wrapped old style 
iPhone 4S headset and a few accessories. I am hoping my 5S arrives in time so I 
can get the 4S replaced without even having to use it so I can essentially sell 
it as a new, unused 4S 64 Gig which I expect will get me half the price of my 
new 5S. a big High Five to Apple’s fantastic customer service.
Regards,
Sieghard
From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rick Alfaro
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 7:41 PM
To: 

Touch ID and accessibility?

2013-09-22 Thread Srikanth Kanuri
Dear all, can anyone share your views on new touch ID accessibility? Would 
there be any problems using or configuring it? 
Would sincerely request for an audio demo of it from any five s user. 
Thanks in advance. 

Sent from my iPod

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Re: App Store Updates Continues to Get Better

2013-09-22 Thread Srikanth Kanuri
Size of the app

Sent from my iPod

On 22-Sep-2013, at 7:54 AM, Tom Lange lang...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 I'm curious about something.  When I look at the update listing, I see the 
 name of the app plus the number of megabytes, et cetera.  Is this number the 
 size of the update itself or the total size of the app?  I suppose I could 
 investigate this off list but thought I'd ask first.
 
 Btw, I really like the way the new app store works.  It sort of reminds me of 
 the old app store in IOS 4 and 5.
 
 Tom
 
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 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 12:15 PM
 Subject: App Store Updates Continues to Get Better
 
 
 I did my first update of existing apps running IOS 7.  It's really slick. On 
 the initial screen, you see all available updates.  Before, if I wanted to 
 see What's New info, I would change the rotor to headings and finds the info 
 that way.  Now, all one has to do is do a single finger double tap on the 
 App, the first option, and the info is displayed on the next screen. From 
 that same screen, you can choose to update the app.  Once the download 
 starts, swipe to the cancel button and the progress will be displayed in 
 percentage of download completed.  Then, you move on to the next app on the 
 same screen and repeat the process as described above.  A very nice 
 enhancement.
 
 Les
 
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Re: More on iOS seven

2013-09-22 Thread Pablo Morales
That I am saying is if I bought a iPhone 5, with IOs6, who works worse that 
IOs 5 in my old iPhone 4, even though, with that IOs my iPhone 5 was 
working. Now if I install a new version of IOs, but it has bugs, and a lot 
of issues that I am reading that happen to me and to  bunches of members of 
this list. Why apple doesn't allow me, to return back to the Ios6, to the 
IOs that I had that was working? Now I am not able to read the time, I have 
to unlock the phone, I have to find the clock with my finger, and get the 
time. Before I just push the power button, and I got the time.
Before I was going to the notification center, and I had the weather right 
there. Now I have to do a lot of steps to read it.

Before voice over respond very quick, now it works very slow.
before when I open an app, my phone respond fast, and consistence, now it 
works so slow, and some times the apps just doesn't open.
I think that the idea when a company create new versions of operated 
systems, is to improve the functionality, but the reality is different. Any 
way, if the Ios 7 is good or if it is bad, it is not the issue. I am a 
customer that is not satisfied with how my product works with the last 
update. I want that the product that I bought 1 years ago, works like it was 
doing when I bought it, because the last update is giving me problems. It is 
a right that I have like customer. I want my product, working, if they did 
mistakes, bugs, and things that they need to fix, they should let me use the 
operates system that I had before, until they fix what ever they have to 
fix. That I am saying is that Apple should let me downgrade my iPhone, until 
they fix what ever they did wrong.


- Original Message - 
From: Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: More on iOS seven


Hi Pablo, you are certainly entitled to being frustrated and to demand 
that Apple make everything work perfectly. However I seem to recall that 
you sent this list a ton of messages about how you didn't want to upgrade 
to iOS 6 because of bugs. Then you upgraded to iOS 6 and you kept asking 
the list how to revert back to iOS 5. Now it seems you are doing the same 
with iOS 7 in wanting to go back to iOS 6. I just don't get it. If you 
don't want to risk the new bugs introduced with a new iOS, then wait like 
you did with iOS 6 until a newer iOS 7, maybe iOS 7.01 or something is 
out.


Just a friendly suggestion.

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On 9/21/2013 3:59 PM, Pablo Morales wrote:

should be a way to crak that locked that apple did with the downgrades.
I don't know, I don't see it fir. I pay a device, so if they provide a
upgrade, an operated system, that doesn't work for me, but the previous
operated system that my device worked well. Why is fir that apple
doesn't allow me to go back to the operated system that was working for
me when I bought the device?
I would like to ask to my lawyer is it is legal, or what kind of law
frame work can I use to improve it for the customers. Customers that
are buying a product that the upgrades reduce the functionality of what
ever they bought.

- Original Message - From: James Lockwood 
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To: iphone group viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 4:38 PM
Subject: More on iOS seven


Earlier I posted that you could revert back to iOS 6. Unfortunately
Apple has blocked that ability now. You were able to revert when iOS
seven beta was out. But with the public release of iOS 7 you can't.
Apple operating system is still the most accessible application on the
market. But there are definite bugs in it compared to iOS 6. Why Apple
doesn't put voice over features through a more rigorous testing process
I don't know. But here are a compilation of the problems I have
experienced thus far.



Many have discussed the jerkiness of voiceover. IT will have experienced
this. I have an iPhone five and iOS seven. To be more specific it occurs
when typing in Twitter or typing messages. I will be typing a message
and flick up or down one time to go past a word. Sometimes voice over
will then we verse my motion. Instead of being at the end of the word as
I intended suddenly I am at the beginning of the word. I'm a fairly
educated individual having a doctorate degree. So it is not due to me
accidentally touching the screen or anything on my part. It is a flaw in
the software at least on my phone. Another example of a voice over error
occurs in the Twitter application Twitterrific. Sometimes it will read a
tweet again and again and again until I swipe left or right to move up
or down the list of tweets. This I could be a problem with the Twitter
application itself. However I have the most up-to-date version

Most annoying problem I experience is regarding 

RE: Touch ID and accessibility?

2013-09-22 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi,

I am not going to have my iPhone 5S  for a couple more weeks since when I
ordered it yesterday The Apple Store app said 7 to 10 days for shipping.
Anyhow, once your finger prints are scanned there really shouldn't be any
accessibility issues since all you have to do it place your finger onto the
home key for it to recognize it and unlock the phone.
While I haven't seen any messages from people who got their phones at a
store yesterday regarding setting up the finger prints, I'd be surprised if
Apple had made this process not accessible.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Re: Touch ID and accessibility?

2013-09-22 Thread Srikanth Kanuri
Haha, expecting the best  i wonder whether voiceOver reads if finger print had 
been recognised or not!

Sent from my iPod

On 22-Sep-2013, at 12:33 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I am not going to have my iPhone 5S  for a couple more weeks since when I
 ordered it yesterday The Apple Store app said 7 to 10 days for shipping.
 Anyhow, once your finger prints are scanned there really shouldn't be any
 accessibility issues since all you have to do it place your finger onto the
 home key for it to recognize it and unlock the phone.
 While I haven't seen any messages from people who got their phones at a
 store yesterday regarding setting up the finger prints, I'd be surprised if
 Apple had made this process not accessible.
 
 Regards,
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RE: IMessage issue in IOS 7

2013-09-22 Thread Ming
yes, they have IMessage turn on.
it is not all my friend. I  think  it is hapening when I create a new message. 


Mingtel: 6421 9950
msn/window live messenger
chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com
skype:
chungchiming9950

face book:
http://www.facebook.com/mingcm1


2013年9月22日 星期日,Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca 寫道﹕

 主題: RE: IMessage issue in IOS 7
 收件人: viphone@googlegroups.com
 日期: 2013年9月22日,星期日,下午2:11
 
 Hi Ming,
 
 I have sent messages to at least 2 or 3 people who also have
 an iPhone and
 iMessages work fine. Make sure your friend has iMessage
 turned on.
 
 
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 On Behalf
 Of Ming
 Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 9:18 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: IMessage issue in IOS 7
 
 hi all,
 after updated to IOS 7, anyone found that we can not send
 IMessage to some
 friends who is also using IPhone. but, it works in IOS 6
 
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Re: is this new in ios7?

2013-09-22 Thread Chris H

Yes this is new. iTunes in the cloud is now fully integrated into iOS.

On 22/09/2013 01:51, Troy Sullivan wrote:

Hi,
I noticed when I updated to ios7 any music I've purchased through ITunes I can 
play on my phone, is this new? When I go to music there's a download button by 
each song so I'm asuming these songs aren't on my phone, since they are on my 
apple account is this the reason why I can still play them? I didn't seem to be 
able to do this in previous versions.



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Re: authorized device?

2013-09-22 Thread RobH.
That is normal and you can ignore it.  Normal when you get a new phone and 
buy something on it for the first time.  I just had to go through all the 
other funny questions, which is what they're there for.
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 12:29 AM
Subject: authorized device?


Hi,
I got a new i phone yesterday, a 5C.

I got it all set up no problems, or so I thought.

Today I downloaded the bard mobile app.  I got an email from apple support 
informing me that the app was downloaded by a device not connected with my 
apple ID.  They said if I was the one who downloaded it to ignore the email. 
Otherwise, somebody else was using my apple ID.

So, OK, how do I connect my new phone with my apple ID?  I registered the 
phone through i tunes when it prompted me to do that..

totally mystified,
Cait

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Re: To IPhones on the same Account

2013-09-22 Thread RobH.
You can backup both as the backup will take the name of the phone.  I've 
changed phones and devices a lot and had as many as 4 of these backups  out 
there.
But as a single account,  the different contact sets might still bleed 
across from one device to the other.
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Subject: To IPhones on the same Account


Hi:
I hope I am explaining myself properly. I have an Apple id which has
mine and my wifes phone on it. We both have different contacts. Can we
both have separate ICloud accounts so that she can also store her
contacts in the cloud or does she need to store them only on her
phone?

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Re: touch or standard typing

2013-09-22 Thread RobH.
Touch typing means it activates and puts the letter in when you found it and 
lift your finger.  standard typing needs a double tap,  or split tap if you 
like.  a split tap means you find the letter with one finger,  and while you 
keep that there, tap with another finger to accept it.

Hth, Rh.
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Subject: touch or standard typing


Hi All,

I am a very new user of IOS. What is the different between touch and
standard typing.



Thanks in advance

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Re: Touch ID and accessibility?

2013-09-22 Thread Daniel Miller
Hi,

According to a demo I heard yesterday, Voiceover will tell you when to lift and 
place your finger, as well as tell you how to position your finger when the 
time is needed. It does also tell you when the print has been successfully 
recognized.

On Sep 22, 2013, at 2:08 AM, Srikanth Kanuri srili...@gmail.com wrote:

 Haha, expecting the best  i wonder whether voiceOver reads if finger print 
 had been recognised or not!
 
 Sent from my iPod
 
 On 22-Sep-2013, at 12:33 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I am not going to have my iPhone 5S  for a couple more weeks since when I
 ordered it yesterday The Apple Store app said 7 to 10 days for shipping.
 Anyhow, once your finger prints are scanned there really shouldn't be any
 accessibility issues since all you have to do it place your finger onto the
 home key for it to recognize it and unlock the phone.
 While I haven't seen any messages from people who got their phones at a
 store yesterday regarding setting up the finger prints, I'd be surprised if
 Apple had made this process not accessible.
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
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Re: Explanation to all of you who are confused about the iOS 7 TTS voices

2013-09-22 Thread Christopher Chaltain
It should be downloaded automatically. If not, you can go into Settings 
- General - Accessibility - VoiceOver On - Languages and Dialects 
and make sure enhanced is enabled and the voice will start downloading 
if it hasn't already been downloaded.


On 09/21/2013 09:38 PM, cnmyh...@gmail.com wrote:

How and where can you do that?

Celeste N. MyHand
☺If it is to be, it is up to me.


On 20 Sep 2013, at 6:31 pm, Adi Kushnir adikush...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes guies, The commpact voices of Vocalizer Expressive are very bad.
I recommend you to download the HQ voices.
In iOS 6, it downloaded the HQ voice after the phone was plugged in
and connected to wi-fi for the first time, same true for 7.

2013/9/21, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com:

When I upgraded to IOS 7, it did default to the HQ voice for me. I
wasn't paying too close attention, and it might have been using the
compact voice until the HQ voice had a chance to download. I was using
the HQ voice before too long though, and when I went into the Languages
and Dialects settings, enhanced was already on and the use compact voice
option was off in my VO settings.


On 09/20/2013 04:50 PM, Troy Sullivan wrote:
Anyone know why apple did not have the hq voice already defaulted like
in previous versions?
- Original Message - From: Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: Explanation to all of you who are confused about the iOS 7
TTS voices



I don't like any of the compact voices, they sound like they are
trapped in a box. Higher quality voices take up more space of course,
but it's worth it, hands down.
Original message:

Thank you for sharing. I absolutely cannot stand the compact British
English voice. Sounds like Daniel with well I don't know, cinucitis
maybe! Lol! But the one compact voice I do like is Irish English. Not
really tried the Australian and U.S. English voices yet in compact
mode.



On 20/09/2013 00:22, Adi Kushnir wrote:
Hi all,



As one who uses the new Nuance Vocalizer Expressive voices to
develop with
them for other platforms, I wanna to explain to you all, what are
the iOS 7
voices and which of them are being used when.



So, let's start from sirie:



The new and better Sirie voices are not Vocalizer Expressive voices.



These are custom voices that Nuance or some other company makes a
specially
for Apple, I think it's Nuance because Apple always works with them
on TTS
related stuff.





Now, let's move on to VoiceOver:



In iOS 6, Apple used the Nuance Vocalizer for automotive version 5.5
platform for it's screen reader and Sirie.



Since Nuance stopped supporting and developing Vocalizer for
Automotive, and
released Vocalizer Expressive, in iOS 7, Apple has swiched to using
these
voices for VoiceOver.



Most of them sound the same as the previous generation of Vocalizer,
such as
Samantha Premium for example, they just read longer texts better.



The Vocalizer Expressive platform contains some new and very
expressive
voices, but Apple decided to use the ones that wer already available,
because they are still offerd with Vocalizer Expressive, or VE for
short.



Some other facts that thanks to them you can know it's the new
Expressive
version, are the bad compact voices, a specially Daniel, and the new
voices
for some languages such as Arabic, they have replaced Maged with
Tarik for
this language because Nuance doesn't offer Maged any more.



Vocalizer Expressive has a Hebrew voice as well, so I hope Apple
will add it
soon too:) (Smile).





Hope now you understand it better..





Adi.




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Re: confusing new sound in iOS 7

2013-09-22 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I'm not sure if this is what you're running into or not, but IOS 7 added 
container support for the iPhones, so you might be hearing the little 
chirp you get when you jump into a new container.


On 09/21/2013 08:20 PM, Christina C. wrote:

Howdy all,

I noticed when I touch something on the screen, like a letter on the
keyboard I get a strange sound similar to the double tap and hold pass
through gesture sound but not exactly the same sound. Anyways, what is
happening? Also, when I am in the keyboard and this happens I can't seem
to type the letter.

Sorry, this question is hard to put into words. :)

Thanks ahead of time. Oh, I am on an iPhone 4 running iOS 7 until my new
phone gets here. :)
Sent from Christina's iMac :)

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Re: BARD app link

2013-09-22 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I used BARDMobile for a search term. I also had to press the search 
button in the virtual keyboard. It didn't show up in the suggestion list.


On 09/21/2013 08:59 PM, Sandy Finley wrote:

I hate to admit this, but I cannot find the link. What is the corrrect search 
termm? Thanks.

Sandy Finley
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Speech interrupted by hearing the word delete in the email app on IOS 7

2013-09-22 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I wonder if this problem is unique to me, since I haven't heard anyone 
mention it, but here's what I have happening.


After reading a message in the email client on IOS 7, I'll double tap 
the delete button at the bottom of the screen. I'll hear the subject for 
the next message, and then I do a two finger swipe up to read the 
message. A few words or lines into the message, I'll hear VoiceOver say 
delete and it stops reading the message. I need to do another two 
finger swipe up to reread the message in it's entirety.


Anyone else seeing this or know what might be going on? It's not a big 
deal, but it is slowing down my email reading.


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Re: Speech interrupted by hearing the word delete in the email app on IOS 7

2013-09-22 Thread Kimber Gardner
Yes, I have the very same problem on my 4s running ios7. I talked
about it under the subject line of vo jumping around or something like
that. Not surprised you missed it with the amount of email that's been
coming through the past few days.

I think it's a symptom of vo losing focus, but can't say for sure. As
you said, it's annoying but not a deal breaker.

Kimber

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 I wonder if this problem is unique to me, since I haven't heard anyone
 mention it, but here's what I have happening.

 After reading a message in the email client on IOS 7, I'll double tap
 the delete button at the bottom of the screen. I'll hear the subject for
 the next message, and then I do a two finger swipe up to read the
 message. A few words or lines into the message, I'll hear VoiceOver say
 delete and it stops reading the message. I need to do another two
 finger swipe up to reread the message in it's entirety.

 Anyone else seeing this or know what might be going on? It's not a big
 deal, but it is slowing down my email reading.

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Handwriting - how to get a comma

2013-09-22 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hello,

 

I am quite intriqued by the new handwriting feature and have been practicing
a bit. I have a feeling that if a person knows how to write which I do since
I lost my sight at the age of almost 17, this could become a rather
efficient method of text input. I actually don't understand why Apple does
not make this available to all iPhone users instead of restricting it to
Voiceover users.

They could have made Handwriting a keyboard choice so to speak. This way if
you added the Handwriting keyboard to your list of keyboards, one could
have simply tapped on the keyboard button at the bottom to switch to it, but
maybe they have their reasons.

 

Anyhow, I would like to know if somebody has figured out how to best insert
a comma. I know of course I have to switch to the punctuation area and I
have managed to figure out how to do most commonly used symbols like a
period, semicolon, colon, question mark, exclamation mark, Dollar sign, @
symbol, underscore etc.

 

I am still having a bit of trouble with a dash, if you draw a horizontal
line across it always interprets it as an underscore.

 

I don't think I managed to get a comma done more than once and I have no
idea how I did it. If I simply draw a line down the screen it inserts this
as a vertical line, if I give the line a bit of a curve it usually inserts
a right parenthesis. Any explanations are appreciated.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

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Dictating without the dictation button -- how to do it?

2013-09-22 Thread Kimber Gardner
Hi All,

I used to use dictation all the time in ios6. But now with ios7 there
is no dictation button. I read a blog post that described how to do it
and they made it sound like the greatest advancement ever, but I just
can't get the hang of it. My phone never goes into dictation mode no
matter what I do. I usually just end up moving the cursor or playing
music or whatever.

Can anyone give me a sep by sep description of how to get dictation going again?

Thanks,
Kimber

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Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma

2013-09-22 Thread Margaret
I have worked out how to do a question mark but I would like to know how to do 
a full stop. I also had sight until I was in my teens. 

Margaret 

Sent from my iPhone

 On 22 Sep 2013, at 8:47 pm, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hello,
  
 I am quite intriqued by the new handwriting feature and have been practicing 
 a bit. I have a feeling that if a person knows how to write which I do since 
 I lost my sight at the age of almost 17, this could become a rather efficient 
 method of text input. I actually don’t understand why Apple does not make 
 this available to all iPhone users instead of restricting it to Voiceover 
 users.
 They could have made Handwriting a keyboard choice so to speak. This way if 
 you added the “Handwriting” keyboard to your list of keyboards, one could 
 have simply tapped on the keyboard button at the bottom to switch to it, but 
 maybe they have their reasons.
  
 Anyhow, I would like to know if somebody has figured out how to best insert a 
 comma. I know of course I have to switch to the punctuation area and I have 
 managed to figure out how to do most commonly used symbols like a period, 
 semicolon, colon, question mark, exclamation mark, Dollar sign, @ symbol, 
 underscore etc.
  
 I am still having a bit of trouble with a dash, if you draw a horizontal line 
 across it always interprets it as an underscore.
  
 I don’t think I managed to get a comma done more than once and I have no idea 
 how I did it. If I simply draw a line down the screen it inserts this as a 
 “vertical line”, if I give the line a bit of a curve it usually inserts a 
 right parenthesis. Any explanations are appreciated.
  
 Best regards,
 Sieghard
  
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Re: App Store and updates. Not automatic.

2013-09-22 Thread Jack Conti

don't think we can its anoying.At 08:30 PM 9/21/2013, you wrote:

Hello Jenny,
Yes, I am having the same thing on my iPhone 4S. I have no idea how 
to get rid of the apps that have already been updated.


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RE: Dictating without the dictation button -- how to do it?

2013-09-22 Thread Margaret Booth
Hi! Kimba 

What you need to do is to go to the edit field that you want to dictate in
and double tap on it to activate the edit field. Once the edit field is
activated do a two finger double tap in the edit field and wait until you
hear a tone and start dictating your message and once finished do another
two finger double tap. Your message will be put into the edit field. I hope
this helps.

Margaret


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Subject: Dictating without the dictation button -- how to do it?

Hi All,

I used to use dictation all the time in ios6. But now with ios7 there is no
dictation button. I read a blog post that described how to do it and they
made it sound like the greatest advancement ever, but I just can't get the
hang of it. My phone never goes into dictation mode no matter what I do. I
usually just end up moving the cursor or playing music or whatever.

Can anyone give me a sep by sep description of how to get dictation going
again?

Thanks,
Kimber

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Re: Facebook access problem

2013-09-22 Thread Tessa
Hi Sieghard:
The app wasn't doing anything, just kept saying double tap to pause 
download, but it wasn't down loading. I plugged it into itunes several times 
and on the third or fourth time syncing with my computer it finally managed 
to sync the facebook app. That might explain why I've lost most of my 
facebook contacts, I did update the contacts from the facebook option in 
settings but it didn't give me the missing facebook contats, any thoughts as 
to how I can get those back, if that's possible.
Thanks
Tessa
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 10:58 PM
Subject: RE: Facebook access problem


: Hi Tessa,
:
: So when you double tap on it, is it downloading and is the progress 
counting
: up towards 100%? If not or if it is and then it starts over you probably
: should just delete it altogether and redownload it.
:
: Regards,
: Sieghard
: 

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RE: Handwriting - how to get a comma

2013-09-22 Thread Margaret Booth
I sent you a email previously saying that I can't do a full stop in the hand
writing mode but I have now worked out how to do it. I'm the same I can't
work out how to do a coma. I can do a lot of the other symbols. I have
worked out how to do a dash. What I do is to draw a very small line across
the screen and this seems to work. 

 

I am enjoying playing around with the hand writing mode.

 

 

Margaret

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 8:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Handwriting - how to get a comma

 

Hello,

 

I am quite intriqued by the new handwriting feature and have been practicing
a bit. I have a feeling that if a person knows how to write which I do since
I lost my sight at the age of almost 17, this could become a rather
efficient method of text input. I actually don't understand why Apple does
not make this available to all iPhone users instead of restricting it to
Voiceover users.

They could have made Handwriting a keyboard choice so to speak. This way if
you added the Handwriting keyboard to your list of keyboards, one could
have simply tapped on the keyboard button at the bottom to switch to it, but
maybe they have their reasons.

 

Anyhow, I would like to know if somebody has figured out how to best insert
a comma. I know of course I have to switch to the punctuation area and I
have managed to figure out how to do most commonly used symbols like a
period, semicolon, colon, question mark, exclamation mark, Dollar sign, @
symbol, underscore etc.

 

I am still having a bit of trouble with a dash, if you draw a horizontal
line across it always interprets it as an underscore.

 

I don't think I managed to get a comma done more than once and I have no
idea how I did it. If I simply draw a line down the screen it inserts this
as a vertical line, if I give the line a bit of a curve it usually inserts
a right parenthesis. Any explanations are appreciated.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

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First impressions of IOS 7

2013-09-22 Thread Louise Redsull
Hi List,

So after reading lots of posts on here I finally took the plunge and
updated. Unfortunately the update did not go very smoothly over the air
resulting in a bricked IPhone. Thankfully updating ITunes followed by a
restore solved this issue though I was wondering if this was a sign of
things to come.

Luckily I can say the update to IOS 7 has been a very positive experience so
far on my IPhone 5. If anything I feel many of the features such as typing
are faster  on the IPhone and it actually seems snappier which was a
surprise.

I haven't had too many problems with screen sensitivity. I have to say the
bug when selecting multiple email messages wehre it says selected on the
next message when you flick right is a bit irritating though.

I wasn't that excited by a lot of the new features announced for IOS 7 but
have been surprised how much I like many of them. The new app switcher is
lovely to use and siri is massively improved. I also think I might use
dictation more now you can just tap with two fingers once in an edit field.

I've had a bit of a play with the handwriting mode feature but need to learn
more letters first. It'd be great if there was a tutorial or description
somewhere of how to do different letters for people who have never really
learnt handwriting.

I'm looking forward to Itunes Radio coming to the UK as well as hopefully
different siri voices.

 

For anyone still toying with the idea of updating I can understand why you
are hesitant. All I can suggest is to read other people's views and then
make a decision. However, from my experience IOS 7 hasn't been as bad as I
thought it might be and there are a lot of surprisingly useful features
which I think will make using my IPhone an easier and more pleasant
experience.

 

Louise.

 

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Freeq by Psychic Bunny

2013-09-22 Thread Phil Vlasak

Freeq
FREEQ is an audio adventure game for iPhone and android mobile devices
$4.99 USD
by Psychic Bunny
An audio adventure game that gives you the amazing ability to tune in to 
phone calls and radio signals from the past or future. You can essentially 
travel through time and change the world.


After a major disaster, there's only one society left on Earth. You can use 
your powerful tool to tune in to their dramatic conversations about affairs, 
arguments, experiments, and more.


This is nothing like the games you're used to playing on your iPhone.

There are plenty of instructions to read through before you get started. I 
do actually recommend reading them all so you don't find things confusing 
once you start searching for signals to hijack.
Hijacking a phone line is done in two stages. The first involves tilting 
your phone until you find a signal and the second involves a switchboard 
where you have to decide who to connect with. If you don't make your 
decision quickly enough, you'll lose your signal and end up back at the 
first stage.


The story you end up being a part of depends on who you connect with and 
when you make make the connections. It's worth listening to the 
conversations carefully so you can decide on what connections to make next. 
Every conversation you create will give you more clues about what actually 
caused the world to end.


The actual process of finding signals and hijacking conversations is quite 
repetitive. This app is entertaining because of the stories. The fact that 
some people know that you're listening to their conversations makes it even 
more interesting. After listening to a few phone calls, you'll really want 
to know how the story ends and what happens to the characters involved.
If you're the type who enjoys interactive stories and radio shows, you'll 
love FREEQ. It's also worth checking out if you're getting bored with normal 
iPhone games and want to try something completely different.


Version 1.2
Accessibility Update! FREEQ is now usable for blind and low-vision players.
Audio instructions are in-game for further information.
It has an accessibility mode that uses voiceover like jestures, that being 
flick  and double tap. To activate it, you put your thumb and finger 
together then slide them both away from each other, like the opposite of a 
pinch in smack me.


US iTunes link:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/freeq/id577659568?mt=8
Google play:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=Psychic+Bunny

Auido announcement:
http://soundcloud.com/psychic-bunny/freeq-audio-only-announcement



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Re: Problems with the Facebook app

2013-09-22 Thread Sandra Heaton
Hi All,

I really don't recommend you upgrade to the latest version of facebook.  The 
notifications are there but instead of being at the top, they are now at the 
bottom but vo won't read them at all.  It is also running a lot slower with or 
without vo.  

I do hope that FB will be able to fix this problem soon as it would seem to me 
that with every upgrade they seem to be going backwards not forwards.  It seems 
to be getting more complicated in my view.


Sandra 
Braille Greeting Cards
www.braille-greetings-cards.co.uk

  - Original Message - 
  From: Marcos Rodrigues 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 4:06 AM
  Subject: Problems with the Facebook app


  Hi folks:


  I am using IOS7 and the last version of the Facebook app (it was updated 
today).


  I am no longer able to read my notifications inside the app, don't know if it 
is a problem of accessibility of the app or if I am doing something wrong. It 
looks like VO identifies something on the screen but is unable to read it.


  Is anyone having the same problem?


  Regards.

  Marcos Rodrigues
  mrodrigue...@hotmail.com







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Re: Speech interrupted by hearing the word delete in the email app on IOS 7

2013-09-22 Thread David Chittenden
Yes, it is happening here as well. I now wait for VO to say delete before I do 
the to finger up.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

 On 22 Sep 2013, at 20:56, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I wonder if this problem is unique to me, since I haven't heard anyone 
 mention it, but here's what I have happening.
 
 After reading a message in the email client on IOS 7, I'll double tap the 
 delete button at the bottom of the screen. I'll hear the subject for the next 
 message, and then I do a two finger swipe up to read the message. A few words 
 or lines into the message, I'll hear VoiceOver say delete and it stops 
 reading the message. I need to do another two finger swipe up to reread the 
 message in it's entirety.
 
 Anyone else seeing this or know what might be going on? It's not a big deal, 
 but it is slowing down my email reading.
 
 -- 
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 chaltain at Gmail
 
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Re: First impressions of IOS 7

2013-09-22 Thread Chris H

I think you can try the handwriting out in VoiceOver practice.

On 22/09/2013 12:31, Louise Redsull wrote:

Hi List,

So after reading lots of posts on here I finally took the plunge and
updated. Unfortunately the update did not go very smoothly over the air
resulting in a bricked IPhone. Thankfully updating ITunes followed by a
restore solved this issue though I was wondering if this was a sign of
things to come.

Luckily I can say the update to IOS 7 has been a very positive experience so
far on my IPhone 5. If anything I feel many of the features such as typing
are faster  on the IPhone and it actually seems snappier which was a
surprise.

I haven't had too many problems with screen sensitivity. I have to say the
bug when selecting multiple email messages wehre it says selected on the
next message when you flick right is a bit irritating though.

I wasn't that excited by a lot of the new features announced for IOS 7 but
have been surprised how much I like many of them. The new app switcher is
lovely to use and siri is massively improved. I also think I might use
dictation more now you can just tap with two fingers once in an edit field.

I've had a bit of a play with the handwriting mode feature but need to learn
more letters first. It'd be great if there was a tutorial or description
somewhere of how to do different letters for people who have never really
learnt handwriting.

I'm looking forward to Itunes Radio coming to the UK as well as hopefully
different siri voices.



For anyone still toying with the idea of updating I can understand why you
are hesitant. All I can suggest is to read other people's views and then
make a decision. However, from my experience IOS 7 hasn't been as bad as I
thought it might be and there are a lot of surprisingly useful features
which I think will make using my IPhone an easier and more pleasant
experience.



Louise.





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two finger double tap, and what plays in bard mobile

2013-09-22 Thread Michael Malver
Hi,

Sometimes, when I'm in bard mobile, and give a 2-finger double tap, my book
plays and pauses as I would expect.  Other times, when I'm in bard mobile, a
two-finger double tap starts and stops either music from the music library,
or sometimes audio from downcast.  I can't pinpoint what causes two finger
double tap to sometimes work and sometimes not.  To complicate issues, I've
listened to audio through Bluetooth, through wired headphones, and directly
connected to a dock.  I haven't used the app long enough  to figure out the
conditions under which bard mobile won't play its own content when double
tapped, but if others are experiencing this, perhaps we can bring it to
nls's attention  I am running IOS 6 still, on an iPhone 4s.

Thanks for any help.

 

Michael

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Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma

2013-09-22 Thread Betty Emmons
Isn't a full stop an exclaimation ?
Betty Emmons
  - Original Message - 
  From: Margaret 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 6:09 AM
  Subject: Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma


  I have worked out how to do a question mark but I would like to know how to 
do a full stop. I also had sight until I was in my teens. 


  Margaret 

  Sent from my iPhone

  On 22 Sep 2013, at 8:47 pm, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:


Hello,



I am quite intriqued by the new handwriting feature and have been 
practicing a bit. I have a feeling that if a person knows how to write which I 
do since I lost my sight at the age of almost 17, this could become a rather 
efficient method of text input. I actually don’t understand why Apple does not 
make this available to all iPhone users instead of restricting it to Voiceover 
users.

They could have made Handwriting a keyboard choice so to speak. This way if 
you added the “Handwriting” keyboard to your list of keyboards, one could have 
simply tapped on the keyboard button at the bottom to switch to it, but maybe 
they have their reasons.



Anyhow, I would like to know if somebody has figured out how to best insert 
a comma. I know of course I have to switch to the punctuation area and I have 
managed to figure out how to do most commonly used symbols like a period, 
semicolon, colon, question mark, exclamation mark, Dollar sign, @ symbol, 
underscore etc.



I am still having a bit of trouble with a dash, if you draw a horizontal 
line across it always interprets it as an underscore.



I don’t think I managed to get a comma done more than once and I have no 
idea how I did it. If I simply draw a line down the screen it inserts this as a 
“vertical line”, if I give the line a bit of a curve it usually inserts a right 
parenthesis. Any explanations are appreciated.



Best regards,

Sieghard




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Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma

2013-09-22 Thread Lisa Soulor
Sieghard, I am stumped with commas and apostrophes! I found with the
dash you just need to do a very short line. I had a small amount of
vision as a child and learned how to print. My sighted husband was
helping me to do som punctuation marks the other day and we just
couldn't get the commas and apostrophes to identify.
In Christ, Lisa

On 9/22/13, Margaret Booth margaretebo...@gmail.com wrote:
 I sent you a email previously saying that I can't do a full stop in the
 hand
 writing mode but I have now worked out how to do it. I'm the same I can't
 work out how to do a coma. I can do a lot of the other symbols. I have
 worked out how to do a dash. What I do is to draw a very small line across
 the screen and this seems to work.



 I am enjoying playing around with the hand writing mode.





 Margaret





 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 8:47 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Handwriting - how to get a comma



 Hello,



 I am quite intriqued by the new handwriting feature and have been
 practicing
 a bit. I have a feeling that if a person knows how to write which I do
 since
 I lost my sight at the age of almost 17, this could become a rather
 efficient method of text input. I actually don't understand why Apple does
 not make this available to all iPhone users instead of restricting it to
 Voiceover users.

 They could have made Handwriting a keyboard choice so to speak. This way if
 you added the Handwriting keyboard to your list of keyboards, one could
 have simply tapped on the keyboard button at the bottom to switch to it,
 but
 maybe they have their reasons.



 Anyhow, I would like to know if somebody has figured out how to best insert
 a comma. I know of course I have to switch to the punctuation area and I
 have managed to figure out how to do most commonly used symbols like a
 period, semicolon, colon, question mark, exclamation mark, Dollar sign, @
 symbol, underscore etc.



 I am still having a bit of trouble with a dash, if you draw a horizontal
 line across it always interprets it as an underscore.



 I don't think I managed to get a comma done more than once and I have no
 idea how I did it. If I simply draw a line down the screen it inserts this
 as a vertical line, if I give the line a bit of a curve it usually
 inserts
 a right parenthesis. Any explanations are appreciated.



 Best regards,

 Sieghard



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activating a link in a text message

2013-09-22 Thread Jed Barton
Hey guys,

Someone just sent me a link in a test message, and I've tried everything to
get it to activate and can't does anyone know how to do this with
voice-over?

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Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma

2013-09-22 Thread Dionesque
An easy way to write a comma is to write a dot and than swipe down with 2 
fingers until VO says comme. Same way you can reach the dash by drawing an 
underscore and swiping down with 2 fingers. This is the easiest way to achieve 
the letters or punctuation marks one is experiencing difficulties with.
Greetings, 
Barbara

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

 Am 22.09.2013 um 12:47 schrieb Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca:
 
 Hello,
  
 I am quite intriqued by the new handwriting feature and have been practicing 
 a bit. I have a feeling that if a person knows how to write which I do since 
 I lost my sight at the age of almost 17, this could become a rather efficient 
 method of text input. I actually don’t understand why Apple does not make 
 this available to all iPhone users instead of restricting it to Voiceover 
 users.
 They could have made Handwriting a keyboard choice so to speak. This way if 
 you added the “Handwriting” keyboard to your list of keyboards, one could 
 have simply tapped on the keyboard button at the bottom to switch to it, but 
 maybe they have their reasons.
  
 Anyhow, I would like to know if somebody has figured out how to best insert a 
 comma. I know of course I have to switch to the punctuation area and I have 
 managed to figure out how to do most commonly used symbols like a period, 
 semicolon, colon, question mark, exclamation mark, Dollar sign, @ symbol, 
 underscore etc.
  
 I am still having a bit of trouble with a dash, if you draw a horizontal line 
 across it always interprets it as an underscore.
  
 I don’t think I managed to get a comma done more than once and I have no idea 
 how I did it. If I simply draw a line down the screen it inserts this as a 
 “vertical line”, if I give the line a bit of a curve it usually inserts a 
 right parenthesis. Any explanations are appreciated.
  
 Best regards,
 Sieghard
  
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Re: Dictating without the dictation button -- how to do it?

2013-09-22 Thread Sandratomkins
try to finger double tap winning the edit mode

Sent from my iPhone

 On 22 Sep 2013, at 12:56, Kimber Gardner kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi All,
 
 I used to use dictation all the time in ios6. But now with ios7 there
 is no dictation button. I read a blog post that described how to do it
 and they made it sound like the greatest advancement ever, but I just
 can't get the hang of it. My phone never goes into dictation mode no
 matter what I do. I usually just end up moving the cursor or playing
 music or whatever.
 
 Can anyone give me a sep by sep description of how to get dictation going 
 again?
 
 Thanks,
 Kimber
 
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Re: BARD app link

2013-09-22 Thread Sandy Finley
I tried Bardmobile before asking the list and I did not ssee it in the 
suggested list. What is the virtual keyboard you are referring to? I don't know 
where to look for the search button. Thanks.

Sandy Finley
Sent from my iPhone


On 22 Sep 2013, at 4:41 am, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:

I used BARDMobile for a search term. I also had to press the search button in 
the virtual keyboard. It didn't show up in the suggestion list.

 On 09/21/2013 08:59 PM, Sandy Finley wrote:
 I hate to admit this, but I cannot find the link. What is the corrrect search 
 termm? Thanks.
 
 Sandy Finley
 Sent from my iPhone

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RE: two finger double tap, and what plays in bard mobile

2013-09-22 Thread Wayne gmail
Not sure it is an NLS problem.  Both my wife and I have had issues of music
starting with a double tap when on the home screen or in a totally unrelated
app like phone.  Thing is, neither of us have any music on our phones.
Actually we did have a song by Uncle Cracker which I had accidentally bought
about 3 years ago.  So I deleted it and it still happens although it is not
that song now.  I'm speculating it is IRadio somehow getting kicked off
instead of whatever we are trying to do.

 

Regards,

Wayne

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Michael Malver
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 7:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: nlsdownl...@loc.gov
Subject: two finger double tap, and what plays in bard mobile

 

Hi,

Sometimes, when I'm in bard mobile, and give a 2-finger double tap, my book
plays and pauses as I would expect.  Other times, when I'm in bard mobile, a
two-finger double tap starts and stops either music from the music library,
or sometimes audio from downcast.  I can't pinpoint what causes two finger
double tap to sometimes work and sometimes not.  To complicate issues, I've
listened to audio through Bluetooth, through wired headphones, and directly
connected to a dock.  I haven't used the app long enough  to figure out the
conditions under which bard mobile won't play its own content when double
tapped, but if others are experiencing this, perhaps we can bring it to
nls's attention  I am running IOS 6 still, on an iPhone 4s.

Thanks for any help.

 

Michael

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Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma

2013-09-22 Thread Kellie and my lab pack
Thanks for letting me know about how to get a comma. I had vision for a long 
time and have been able to get every single symbol written with the exception 
of a comm and apostrophe. lol I got quoteation marks a few times but am not 
sure what I did for that. lol 
I can draw all the other symbols, even an  sign with little difficulty. 
I am enjoying this feature. It is nice being able to write again and knowing 
that I remember even if it is with my fingers. lol 
Kellie, guide Loki and retired July

From: Dionesque 
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 7:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma

An easy way to write a comma is to write a dot and than swipe down with 2 
fingers until VO says comme. Same way you can reach the dash by drawing an 
underscore and swiping down with 2 fingers. This is the easiest way to achieve 
the letters or punctuation marks one is experiencing difficulties with.
Greetings, 
Barbara

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 22.09.2013 um 12:47 schrieb Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca:


  Hello,

   

  I am quite intriqued by the new handwriting feature and have been practicing 
a bit. I have a feeling that if a person knows how to write which I do since I 
lost my sight at the age of almost 17, this could become a rather efficient 
method of text input. I actually don’t understand why Apple does not make this 
available to all iPhone users instead of restricting it to Voiceover users.

  They could have made Handwriting a keyboard choice so to speak. This way if 
you added the “Handwriting” keyboard to your list of keyboards, one could have 
simply tapped on the keyboard button at the bottom to switch to it, but maybe 
they have their reasons.

   

  Anyhow, I would like to know if somebody has figured out how to best insert a 
comma. I know of course I have to switch to the punctuation area and I have 
managed to figure out how to do most commonly used symbols like a period, 
semicolon, colon, question mark, exclamation mark, Dollar sign, @ symbol, 
underscore etc.

   

  I am still having a bit of trouble with a dash, if you draw a horizontal line 
across it always interprets it as an underscore.

   

  I don’t think I managed to get a comma done more than once and I have no idea 
how I did it. If I simply draw a line down the screen it inserts this as a 
“vertical line”, if I give the line a bit of a curve it usually inserts a right 
parenthesis. Any explanations are appreciated.

   

  Best regards,

  Sieghard

   

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Re: Problems with the Facebook app

2013-09-22 Thread Carol Forrester
i find the messenger for face book a lot easier, Carol
On 22 Sep 2013, at 12:49, Sandra Heaton san...@sandras-place.co.uk wrote:

 Hi All,
  
 I really don't recommend you upgrade to the latest version of facebook.  The 
 notifications are there but instead of being at the top, they are now at the 
 bottom but vo won't read them at all.  It is also running a lot slower with 
 or without vo. 
  
 I do hope that FB will be able to fix this problem soon as it would seem to 
 me that with every upgrade they seem to be going backwards not forwards.  It 
 seems to be getting more complicated in my view.
  
  
 Sandra 
 Braille Greeting Cards
 www.braille-greetings-cards.co.uk
 - Original Message -
 From: Marcos Rodrigues
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 4:06 AM
 Subject: Problems with the Facebook app
 
 Hi folks:
 
 I am using IOS7 and the last version of the Facebook app (it was updated 
 today).
 
 I am no longer able to read my notifications inside the app, don't know if it 
 is a problem of accessibility of the app or if I am doing something wrong. It 
 looks like VO identifies something on the screen but is unable to read it.
 
 Is anyone having the same problem?
 
 Regards.
 Marcos Rodrigues
 mrodrigue...@hotmail.com
 
 
 
 
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Re: A Pandora question.

2013-09-22 Thread Laura ann Grymes
you can have 100 stations in free version.

Laura Ann

On Sep 20, 2013, at 4:23 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've only ever used the free version of Pandora, so I don't know how it 
 compares to the paid version, but you are only allowed to skip so many songs 
 in the free version of Pandora every hour. I know you also get a lower bit 
 rate in the free version over the paid version. I don't think it effects how 
 many stations you can have. I have around eight in the free version as well.
 
 On 09/20/2013 04:09 PM, Liz and Sammie wrote:
 Now that ITunes Radio is here, I canceled my paid subscription to
 Pandora, but I still want to use the free version.  Besides having no
 advertisements in the paid version of Pandora what is the difference
 between the free version and the paid version?  I have about  8 stations
 in Pandora.  Will downgrading to the free version give me less stations?
 Liz Ulrich and Leader Dog Sammie
 Westwood Church of God Internet Prayer Chain Coordinator
 
 HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1
 
 
 
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Re: 4 finger single tap bug?

2013-09-22 Thread Dan Beaver
hi,
on my iPhone 5, it does the same thing.  in email A four finger single tap
  says compose instead of going to the last email in the list Dan Beaver

 On Sep 21, 2013, at 9:02 PM, Victor Marques victormarques0...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 On my iPad mini, I notice sometimes that the 4 finger single tap
 towards the bottom of the screen (which should take you to the last
 element on the page) does sometimes work, but almost just as often it
 has some unpredictable result, such as performing a tap action for
 example.  Any of you able to repliccate this as a bug?
 
 Thanks
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Re: activating a link in a text message

2013-09-22 Thread Maria and Joe Chapman
HI.  if there is a more info button try double tapping that.  there should then 
be an option to visit the link.


Warm regards and blessings 
Maria, Joe and FurBabies
Email:  iMessage:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com



On 22/09/2013, at 10:33 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:

 Hey guys,
 
 Someone just sent me a link in a test message, and I've tried everything to
 get it to activate and can't does anyone know how to do this with
 voice-over?
 
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Re: Freeq by Psychic Bunny

2013-09-22 Thread bj colt

Hi,

Is this ap accessible? I downloaded it and had to sign up to on line games. 
When I open the freeq ap I cannot read anything on the screen. I don't 
advise anyone to buy this ap until I get some sighted help to determine if 
it works or not.


Live long and prosper, John

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Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 12:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Freeq by Psychic Bunny


Freeq
FREEQ is an audio adventure game for iPhone and android mobile devices
$4.99 USD
by Psychic Bunny
An audio adventure game that gives you the amazing ability to tune in to 
phone calls and radio signals from the past or future. You can essentially 
travel through time and change the world.


After a major disaster, there's only one society left on Earth. You can 
use your powerful tool to tune in to their dramatic conversations about 
affairs, arguments, experiments, and more.


This is nothing like the games you're used to playing on your iPhone.

There are plenty of instructions to read through before you get started. I 
do actually recommend reading them all so you don't find things confusing 
once you start searching for signals to hijack.
Hijacking a phone line is done in two stages. The first involves tilting 
your phone until you find a signal and the second involves a switchboard 
where you have to decide who to connect with. If you don't make your 
decision quickly enough, you'll lose your signal and end up back at the 
first stage.


The story you end up being a part of depends on who you connect with and 
when you make make the connections. It's worth listening to the 
conversations carefully so you can decide on what connections to make 
next. Every conversation you create will give you more clues about what 
actually caused the world to end.


The actual process of finding signals and hijacking conversations is quite 
repetitive. This app is entertaining because of the stories. The fact that 
some people know that you're listening to their conversations makes it 
even more interesting. After listening to a few phone calls, you'll really 
want to know how the story ends and what happens to the characters 
involved.
If you're the type who enjoys interactive stories and radio shows, you'll 
love FREEQ. It's also worth checking out if you're getting bored with 
normal iPhone games and want to try something completely different.


Version 1.2
Accessibility Update! FREEQ is now usable for blind and low-vision 
players.

Audio instructions are in-game for further information.
It has an accessibility mode that uses voiceover like jestures, that being 
flick  and double tap. To activate it, you put your thumb and finger 
together then slide them both away from each other, like the opposite of a 
pinch in smack me.


US iTunes link:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/freeq/id577659568?mt=8
Google play:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=Psychic+Bunny

Auido announcement:
http://soundcloud.com/psychic-bunny/freeq-audio-only-announcement



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Re: Freeq by Psychic Bunny

2013-09-22 Thread Maria and Joe Chapman
HI did you try the gesture that was spoken about in the message below?

I'll paste it here just in case I read it wrong or something.
pasted message:
 It has an accessibility mode that uses voiceover like jestures, that being 
 flick  and double tap. To activate it, you put your thumb and finger 
 together then slide them both away from each other, like the opposite of a 
 pinch in smack me.
I don't know if this works or not because I haven't bought the game yet.  Am 
waiting for opinions on it.
Cheers 
Maria  

sent from mac mini 
email,  fb bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
skype bubbygirl1972  twitter same as skype without the numbers. 





On 23/09/2013, at 12:20 AM, bj colt bjc...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Is this ap accessible? I downloaded it and had to sign up to on line games. 
 When I open the freeq ap I cannot read anything on the screen. I don't advise 
 anyone to buy this ap until I get some sighted help to determine if it works 
 or not.
 
 Live long and prosper, John
 
 --
 From: Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net
 Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 12:45 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Freeq by Psychic Bunny
 
 Freeq
 FREEQ is an audio adventure game for iPhone and android mobile devices
 $4.99 USD
 by Psychic Bunny
 An audio adventure game that gives you the amazing ability to tune in to 
 phone calls and radio signals from the past or future. You can essentially 
 travel through time and change the world.
 
 After a major disaster, there's only one society left on Earth. You can use 
 your powerful tool to tune in to their dramatic conversations about affairs, 
 arguments, experiments, and more.
 
 This is nothing like the games you're used to playing on your iPhone.
 
 There are plenty of instructions to read through before you get started. I 
 do actually recommend reading them all so you don't find things confusing 
 once you start searching for signals to hijack.
 Hijacking a phone line is done in two stages. The first involves tilting 
 your phone until you find a signal and the second involves a switchboard 
 where you have to decide who to connect with. If you don't make your 
 decision quickly enough, you'll lose your signal and end up back at the 
 first stage.
 
 The story you end up being a part of depends on who you connect with and 
 when you make make the connections. It's worth listening to the 
 conversations carefully so you can decide on what connections to make next. 
 Every conversation you create will give you more clues about what actually 
 caused the world to end.
 
 The actual process of finding signals and hijacking conversations is quite 
 repetitive. This app is entertaining because of the stories. The fact that 
 some people know that you're listening to their conversations makes it even 
 more interesting. After listening to a few phone calls, you'll really want 
 to know how the story ends and what happens to the characters involved.
 If you're the type who enjoys interactive stories and radio shows, you'll 
 love FREEQ. It's also worth checking out if you're getting bored with normal 
 iPhone games and want to try something completely different.
 
 Version 1.2
 Accessibility Update! FREEQ is now usable for blind and low-vision players.
 Audio instructions are in-game for further information.
 It has an accessibility mode that uses voiceover like jestures, that being 
 flick  and double tap. To activate it, you put your thumb and finger 
 together then slide them both away from each other, like the opposite of a 
 pinch in smack me.
 
 US iTunes link:
 https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/freeq/id577659568?mt=8
 Google play:
 https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=Psychic+Bunny
 
 Auido announcement:
 http://soundcloud.com/psychic-bunny/freeq-audio-only-announcement
 
 
 
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Battery Consumption in IOS

2013-09-22 Thread Les Kriegler
I don't know if this is specific to IOS7, hence my subject line did not 
reference IOS7 specifically.  I am running IOS 7 on the 5S.  I thought my 
battery was draining much faster than it should.  I made all the settings 
adjustments recommended including the brightness setting at 0.  I checked this 
morning and the brightness setting showed at 29%.  I didn't adjust this 
setting.  But I think the culprit here is the Auto Brightness setting which is 
on by default.  A program must have been running which altered the brightness 
level based on Auto Brightness being on.  I toggled that setting to Off, and 
thus far, brightness remains at 0%.  My phone has been locked for about 2 
hours, and the battery level has not dropped, so perhaps I'll get better 
battery life now.  Hope this is helpful info.

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Re: Touch ID and accessibility?

2013-09-22 Thread SCOTT VAN GORP


Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 22, 2013, at 2:54 AM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 According to a demo I heard yesterday, Voiceover will tell you when to lift 
 and place your finger, as well as tell you how to position your finger when 
 the time is needed. It does also tell you when the print has been 
 successfully recognized.
 
 On Sep 22, 2013, at 2:08 AM, Srikanth Kanuri srili...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Haha, expecting the best  i wonder whether voiceOver reads if finger print 
 had been recognised or not!
 
 Sent from my iPod
 
 On 22-Sep-2013, at 12:33 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I am not going to have my iPhone 5S  for a couple more weeks since when I
 ordered it yesterday The Apple Store app said 7 to 10 days for shipping.
 Anyhow, once your finger prints are scanned there really shouldn't be any
 accessibility issues since all you have to do it place your finger onto the
 home key for it to recognize it and unlock the phone.
 While I haven't seen any messages from people who got their phones at a
 store yesterday regarding setting up the finger prints, I'd be surprised if
 Apple had made this process not accessible.
 
 Regards,
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Re: Touch ID and accessibility?

2013-09-22 Thread Les Kriegler
Is there a link for this demo?
On Sep 22, 2013, at 3:54 AM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 According to a demo I heard yesterday, Voiceover will tell you when to lift 
 and place your finger, as well as tell you how to position your finger when 
 the time is needed. It does also tell you when the print has been 
 successfully recognized.
 
 On Sep 22, 2013, at 2:08 AM, Srikanth Kanuri srili...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Haha, expecting the best  i wonder whether voiceOver reads if finger print 
 had been recognised or not!
 
 Sent from my iPod
 
 On 22-Sep-2013, at 12:33 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I am not going to have my iPhone 5S  for a couple more weeks since when I
 ordered it yesterday The Apple Store app said 7 to 10 days for shipping.
 Anyhow, once your finger prints are scanned there really shouldn't be any
 accessibility issues since all you have to do it place your finger onto the
 home key for it to recognize it and unlock the phone.
 While I haven't seen any messages from people who got their phones at a
 store yesterday regarding setting up the finger prints, I'd be surprised if
 Apple had made this process not accessible.
 
 Regards,
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Re: Freeq by Psychic Bunny

2013-09-22 Thread bj colt

Hi Maria and Joe,

Apologies if this has been sent twice, email problems. I have been trying 
that gesture for the past ten minutes, alternating the length of gap between 
thumb and index finger, trying it slow, mid and fast. Nothing seems to work. 
I will give my fingers a rest and try again and again and again till it 
works. I have also tried the gesture on different parts of the screen. No 
joy anywhere. Maybe I just need more practice for that gesture as it is new 
to me.


Live long and prosper, Johns

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Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 3:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Freeq by Psychic Bunny


HI did you try the gesture that was spoken about in the message below?

I'll paste it here just in case I read it wrong or something.
pasted message:
It has an accessibility mode that uses voiceover like jestures, that 
being flick  and double tap. To activate it, you put your thumb and 
finger together then slide them both away from each other, like the 
opposite of a pinch in smack me.
I don't know if this works or not because I haven't bought the game yet. 
Am waiting for opinions on it.

Cheers
Maria

sent from mac mini
email,  fb bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
skype bubbygirl1972  twitter same as skype without the numbers.





On 23/09/2013, at 12:20 AM, bj colt bjc...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:


Hi,

Is this ap accessible? I downloaded it and had to sign up to on line 
games. When I open the freeq ap I cannot read anything on the screen. I 
don't advise anyone to buy this ap until I get some sighted help to 
determine if it works or not.


Live long and prosper, John

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From: Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 12:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Freeq by Psychic Bunny


Freeq
FREEQ is an audio adventure game for iPhone and android mobile devices
$4.99 USD
by Psychic Bunny
An audio adventure game that gives you the amazing ability to tune in to 
phone calls and radio signals from the past or future. You can 
essentially travel through time and change the world.


After a major disaster, there's only one society left on Earth. You can 
use your powerful tool to tune in to their dramatic conversations about 
affairs, arguments, experiments, and more.


This is nothing like the games you're used to playing on your iPhone.

There are plenty of instructions to read through before you get started. 
I do actually recommend reading them all so you don't find things 
confusing once you start searching for signals to hijack.
Hijacking a phone line is done in two stages. The first involves tilting 
your phone until you find a signal and the second involves a switchboard 
where you have to decide who to connect with. If you don't make your 
decision quickly enough, you'll lose your signal and end up back at the 
first stage.


The story you end up being a part of depends on who you connect with and 
when you make make the connections. It's worth listening to the 
conversations carefully so you can decide on what connections to make 
next. Every conversation you create will give you more clues about what 
actually caused the world to end.


The actual process of finding signals and hijacking conversations is 
quite repetitive. This app is entertaining because of the stories. The 
fact that some people know that you're listening to their conversations 
makes it even more interesting. After listening to a few phone calls, 
you'll really want to know how the story ends and what happens to the 
characters involved.
If you're the type who enjoys interactive stories and radio shows, 
you'll love FREEQ. It's also worth checking out if you're getting bored 
with normal iPhone games and want to try something completely different.


Version 1.2
Accessibility Update! FREEQ is now usable for blind and low-vision 
players.

Audio instructions are in-game for further information.
It has an accessibility mode that uses voiceover like jestures, that 
being flick  and double tap. To activate it, you put your thumb and 
finger together then slide them both away from each other, like the 
opposite of a pinch in smack me.


US iTunes link:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/freeq/id577659568?mt=8
Google play:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=Psychic+Bunny

Auido announcement:
http://soundcloud.com/psychic-bunny/freeq-audio-only-announcement



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Re: Freeq by Psychic Bunny

2013-09-22 Thread Maria and Joe Chapman
HI.  Ok anyone who has this game and has got this to work?

It sounds like a very interesting concept. 


Blessings!
maria and Joe chapman
Email, iMessage  fb: bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
twitter: bubbygirl



On 23/09/2013, at 12:49 AM, bj colt bjc...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:

 Hi Maria and Joe,
 
 Apologies if this has been sent twice, email problems. I have been trying 
 that gesture for the past ten minutes, alternating the length of gap between 
 thumb and index finger, trying it slow, mid and fast. Nothing seems to work. 
 I will give my fingers a rest and try again and again and again till it 
 works. I have also tried the gesture on different parts of the screen. No joy 
 anywhere. Maybe I just need more practice for that gesture as it is new to me.
 
 Live long and prosper, Johns
 
 --
 From: Maria and Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
 Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 3:24 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Freeq by Psychic Bunny
 
 HI did you try the gesture that was spoken about in the message below?
 
 I'll paste it here just in case I read it wrong or something.
 pasted message:
 It has an accessibility mode that uses voiceover like jestures, that being 
 flick  and double tap. To activate it, you put your thumb and finger 
 together then slide them both away from each other, like the opposite of a 
 pinch in smack me.
 I don't know if this works or not because I haven't bought the game yet. Am 
 waiting for opinions on it.
 Cheers
 Maria
 
 sent from mac mini
 email,  fb bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
 skype bubbygirl1972  twitter same as skype without the numbers.
 
 
 
 
 
 On 23/09/2013, at 12:20 AM, bj colt bjc...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Is this ap accessible? I downloaded it and had to sign up to on line games. 
 When I open the freeq ap I cannot read anything on the screen. I don't 
 advise anyone to buy this ap until I get some sighted help to determine if 
 it works or not.
 
 Live long and prosper, John
 
 --
 From: Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net
 Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 12:45 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Freeq by Psychic Bunny
 
 Freeq
 FREEQ is an audio adventure game for iPhone and android mobile devices
 $4.99 USD
 by Psychic Bunny
 An audio adventure game that gives you the amazing ability to tune in to 
 phone calls and radio signals from the past or future. You can essentially 
 travel through time and change the world.
 
 After a major disaster, there's only one society left on Earth. You can 
 use your powerful tool to tune in to their dramatic conversations about 
 affairs, arguments, experiments, and more.
 
 This is nothing like the games you're used to playing on your iPhone.
 
 There are plenty of instructions to read through before you get started. I 
 do actually recommend reading them all so you don't find things confusing 
 once you start searching for signals to hijack.
 Hijacking a phone line is done in two stages. The first involves tilting 
 your phone until you find a signal and the second involves a switchboard 
 where you have to decide who to connect with. If you don't make your 
 decision quickly enough, you'll lose your signal and end up back at the 
 first stage.
 
 The story you end up being a part of depends on who you connect with and 
 when you make make the connections. It's worth listening to the 
 conversations carefully so you can decide on what connections to make 
 next. Every conversation you create will give you more clues about what 
 actually caused the world to end.
 
 The actual process of finding signals and hijacking conversations is quite 
 repetitive. This app is entertaining because of the stories. The fact that 
 some people know that you're listening to their conversations makes it 
 even more interesting. After listening to a few phone calls, you'll really 
 want to know how the story ends and what happens to the characters 
 involved.
 If you're the type who enjoys interactive stories and radio shows, you'll 
 love FREEQ. It's also worth checking out if you're getting bored with 
 normal iPhone games and want to try something completely different.
 
 Version 1.2
 Accessibility Update! FREEQ is now usable for blind and low-vision players.
 Audio instructions are in-game for further information.
 It has an accessibility mode that uses voiceover like jestures, that being 
 flick  and double tap. To activate it, you put your thumb and finger 
 together then slide them both away from each other, like the opposite of a 
 pinch in smack me.
 
 US iTunes link:
 https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/freeq/id577659568?mt=8
 Google play:
 https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=Psychic+Bunny
 
 Auido announcement:
 http://soundcloud.com/psychic-bunny/freeq-audio-only-announcement
 
 
 
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Re: I Clean

2013-09-22 Thread Alan Paganelli
Once iClean removes the temp files from your iPhone, you shouldn't need to 
run it again until you have added or deleted any new apps..

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Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now! 
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.


Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


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Subject: I Clean



How often should you run a program like I Clean?

Thank you,

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iOS 7 and auto correct with bt keyboard problem

2013-09-22 Thread Ioana Gandrabur
Hi all,

Can anyone help me with autocorrect in iOS 7? I have trouble accessing 
suggestions when using the bt keyboard. I complete a word and hear it is 
misspelled. I used to backspace and hear a short sound and could use quick nav 
to go to auto corrections menu. Now I hear no sound and don't see any menu. I 
also have autotext speaking turned on but don't get anything. 

Anyone has a workaround?

Best,

Ioana 

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Backspace problems with bt keyboard

2013-09-22 Thread Ioana Gandrabur
Hi all,

I am using my bt keyboard for the first time since iOS 7 update and am 
experiencing intermittent speaking of characters I delete with backspace. So I 
am having difficulty knowing what I delete. 

Anyone had such problems

Best,

Ioana ? 

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Re: Can't Find Focus 40 Blue Braille Display In IOS7

2013-09-22 Thread Debra Turner
I have gotten my Focus 40 Blue and Apex braillenote to connect.
After the ios 7 update, I had to reset my iphone before the braille displays 
could be found in the braille settings. 
It was very good to finally get the displays connected.
Debra
Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 20, 2013, at 10:40 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wadres...@att.net wrote:
 
 Hi, 
 
 I also have a Focus 40 Classic braille display, and I've had no trouble 
 pairing it with my iPhone. Are you sure that Bluetooth is on? 
 
 Best, 
 Anna 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Sep 20, 2013, at 9:51 PM, Debra Turner debra0...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
 Hi All,
 I have an Iphone 5 running ios 7 and the original model of the Focus 40 Blue 
 braille display.
 The device is not found when attempting to pair under the braille settings 
 or under the Bluetooth settings.
  
 I also have an Apex which does not show up in the list either.
 Is there a difference in pairing braille displays with ios 7? I had 
 no trouble and used both devices successfully with version 6 of ios.
 Thanks for any suggestions.
 Debra
 
  
 
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RE: Dictating without the dictation button -- how to do it?

2013-09-22 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Kimber,

The Dictate button is still there on my 4S where is always has been, just to
the left of the spacebar when the virtual keyboard is visible.
If you touch an edit field and hear Voiceover saying, for example, Search
field, is editing, character mode, do a 2-finger double tap at this point
and you should hear the tone to indicate that Dictation is listening.
 When you are done speaking do a 2-finger double tap again to stop dictation
and insert the text.

I find the increased screen sensitivity has it's bad moments, but one thing
I find is that using the 2-finger double tap to start and stop dictation
when I'm in an edit field or also to answer and hang up calls is a lot more
reliable for me and somehow seems to be faster and more snappy.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 3:56 AM
To: viphone
Subject: Dictating without the dictation button -- how to do it?

Hi All,

I used to use dictation all the time in ios6. But now with ios7 there
is no dictation button. I read a blog post that described how to do it
and they made it sound like the greatest advancement ever, but I just
can't get the hang of it. My phone never goes into dictation mode no
matter what I do. I usually just end up moving the cursor or playing
music or whatever.

Can anyone give me a sep by sep description of how to get dictation going
again?

Thanks,
Kimber

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Re: Touch ID and accessibility?

2013-09-22 Thread PHILLIP TRACY
I can tell you, the process is fully accessible. All you have to do is follow 
what voice over tells you to do. You should build to do it without any problems 
whatsoever. I did it in the store just fine.

Phillip Tracy
Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 22, 2013, at 2:03 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I am not going to have my iPhone 5S  for a couple more weeks since when I
 ordered it yesterday The Apple Store app said 7 to 10 days for shipping.
 Anyhow, once your finger prints are scanned there really shouldn't be any
 accessibility issues since all you have to do it place your finger onto the
 home key for it to recognize it and unlock the phone.
 While I haven't seen any messages from people who got their phones at a
 store yesterday regarding setting up the finger prints, I'd be surprised if
 Apple had made this process not accessible.
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
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Re: Touch ID and accessibility?

2013-09-22 Thread PHILLIP TRACY
yes, voice over will tell you if the fingerprint has worked or not worked. Only 
during the setup process. Once you fingerprints are set up, everything works as 
normal.

Phillip Tracy
Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 22, 2013, at 2:08 AM, Srikanth Kanuri srili...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Haha, expecting the best  i wonder whether voiceOver reads if finger print 
 had been recognised or not!
 
 Sent from my iPod
 
 On 22-Sep-2013, at 12:33 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I am not going to have my iPhone 5S  for a couple more weeks since when I
 ordered it yesterday The Apple Store app said 7 to 10 days for shipping.
 Anyhow, once your finger prints are scanned there really shouldn't be any
 accessibility issues since all you have to do it place your finger onto the
 home key for it to recognize it and unlock the phone.
 While I haven't seen any messages from people who got their phones at a
 store yesterday regarding setting up the finger prints, I'd be surprised if
 Apple had made this process not accessible.
 
 Regards,
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Update was Re: Backspace problems with bt keyboard

2013-09-22 Thread Ioana Gandrabur
Hi again,

I stopped and started voiceover and  this problem seems to have fixed itself. 
Hope it stays this way. Curious  for any other experiences along these lines.

Best,

Ioana 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 22, 2013, at 11:00 AM, Ioana Gandrabur igandra...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I am using my bt keyboard for the first time since iOS 7 update and am 
 experiencing intermittent speaking of characters I delete with backspace. So 
 I am having difficulty knowing what I delete. 
 
 Anyone had such problems
 
 Best,
 
 Ioana ? 
 
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RE: Handwriting - how to get a comma

2013-09-22 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
A full stop  is what the Limies call a period *smile*!

Being a little Kraut a long time ago back in Germany when I started learn
English in school we were also taught full stop instead of period, but later
when I had English teachers who spent time in the States that changed.

 

Take care,

Sieghard

 

 

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Of Betty Emmons
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 5:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma

 

Isn't a full stop an exclaimation ?

Betty Emmons

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Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 6:09 AM

Subject: Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma

 

I have worked out how to do a question mark but I would like to know how to
do a full stop. I also had sight until I was in my teens. 

 

Margaret 

Sent from my iPhone


On 22 Sep 2013, at 8:47 pm, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

Hello,

I am quite intriqued by the new handwriting feature and have been practicing
a bit. I have a feeling that if a person knows how to write which I do since
I lost my sight at the age of almost 17, this could become a rather
efficient method of text input. I actually don't understand why Apple does
not make this available to all iPhone users instead of restricting it to
Voiceover users.

They could have made Handwriting a keyboard choice so to speak. This way if
you added the Handwriting keyboard to your list of keyboards, one could
have simply tapped on the keyboard button at the bottom to switch to it, but
maybe they have their reasons.

Anyhow, I would like to know if somebody has figured out how to best insert
a comma. I know of course I have to switch to the punctuation area and I
have managed to figure out how to do most commonly used symbols like a
period, semicolon, colon, question mark, exclamation mark, Dollar sign, @
symbol, underscore etc.

I am still having a bit of trouble with a dash, if you draw a horizontal
line across it always interprets it as an underscore.

I don't think I managed to get a comma done more than once and I have no
idea how I did it. If I simply draw a line down the screen it inserts this
as a vertical line, if I give the line a bit of a curve it usually inserts
a right parenthesis. Any explanations are appreciated.

Best regards,

Sieghard

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Guidance with handing over my iPod 4th generation to my wife

2013-09-22 Thread Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Hi,

She has in iPad 2 which we'll back up to  iCloud for use in restoring to the 
iPod Touch. She has her own Apple ID and password.

What's the best way to proceed to clear me off and get the iPod Touch  in her 
name?

I've never done this before.

Thanks in advance. Keith

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Re: First impressions of IOS 7

2013-09-22 Thread Alan Paganelli
I always reset my phone to prevent just that kind of thing from happening.  
Nailed once myself like that.  Hold down the power button and the home button 
for 10 seconds.  When your iPhone comes back up talking, then proceed with the 
upgrade.  Sense that first time and resetting my phone I've not experienced it 
again.
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Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!  Move 
out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

Please click on: 
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There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

  - Original Message - 
  From: Louise Redsull 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 4:31 AM
  Subject: First impressions of IOS 7


  Hi List,

  So after reading lots of posts on here I finally took the plunge and updated. 
Unfortunately the update did not go very smoothly over the air resulting in a 
bricked IPhone. Thankfully updating ITunes followed by a restore solved this 
issue though I was wondering if this was a sign of things to come.

  Luckily I can say the update to IOS 7 has been a very positive experience so 
far on my IPhone 5. If anything I feel many of the features such as typing are 
faster  on the IPhone and it actually seems snappier which was a surprise.

  I haven't had too many problems with screen sensitivity. I have to say the 
bug when selecting multiple email messages wehre it says selected on the next 
message when you flick right is a bit irritating though.

  I wasn't that excited by a lot of the new features announced for IOS 7 but 
have been surprised how much I like many of them. The new app switcher is 
lovely to use and siri is massively improved. I also think I might use 
dictation more now you can just tap with two fingers once in an edit field.

  I've had a bit of a play with the handwriting mode feature but need to learn 
more letters first. It'd be great if there was a tutorial or description 
somewhere of how to do different letters for people who have never really 
learnt handwriting.

  I'm looking forward to Itunes Radio coming to the UK as well as hopefully 
different siri voices.

   

  For anyone still toying with the idea of updating I can understand why you 
are hesitant. All I can suggest is to read other people's views and then make a 
decision. However, from my experience IOS 7 hasn't been as bad as I thought it 
might be and there are a lot of surprisingly useful features which I think will 
make using my IPhone an easier and more pleasant experience.

   

  Louise.

   


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Re: Braille does not work in Pages under iOS 7

2013-09-22 Thread Keith Bundy
Thanks for posting this, Richard. I haven't checked email fora while and found 
out Pages wasn't showing Braille just this morning as I tried !read sermon 
notes I had created on the -puter in Word. Please pass on any informN you may 
receive on this.

Keith

Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 21, 2013, at 10:57 AM, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I am trying my Braille Edge 40 for the first time today with iOS 7. 
 
 It is working just fine in Notes, Mail, and general navigation. I turned off 
 the automatic translation and selected English US for the braille table and 
 so far so good.
 However, when I tried to use it with Pages, no braille showed up on the 
 display from the text of the document. The icons for things like tools, the 
 word count, and all that read just fine, but when I was in the text area of 
 the page, the display was blank.
 Also, as others have reported, the space plus dots 1,4,6 no longer shows and 
 hides the keyboard. Neither does the setting under VoiceOver Braille.
 These are pretty big issues for braille users.
 * This message is going both to the list and accessibility at apple.Richard
 (Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen)
 
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RE: Facebook access problem

2013-09-22 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Tessa,

I use Facebook about twice a year when one of the few people I have on there
sends me an email via Facebook instead of directly. Unfortunately Facebook
and Twitter are 2 topics I know very little about because for the most part
I consider them a waste of time, just my opinion. Hopefully somebody else
who knows more can help you get these contacts back.
I use Office 365 for my work email and Outlook.com for my personal email, so
all my contacts are either on the Office 365 servers or on Outlook.com
servers. This means if I have to do a restore or if I get a new device, all
I do is set up my mail account and make sure Contacts are checked and within
a short time they all download back to my device as does all my email.
Furthermore, my email, contacts and calendar are always kept in sync between
my iPhone, my laptop and my 2 work computers and I think nowadays using
Outlook.com or gmail for this is totally the way to go.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Tessa
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 4:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Facebook access problem

Hi Sieghard:
The app wasn't doing anything, just kept saying double tap to pause 
download, but it wasn't down loading. I plugged it into itunes several times

and on the third or fourth time syncing with my computer it finally managed 
to sync the facebook app. That might explain why I've lost most of my 
facebook contacts, I did update the contacts from the facebook option in 
settings but it didn't give me the missing facebook contats, any thoughts as

to how I can get those back, if that's possible.
Thanks
Tessa
- Original Message - 
From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 10:58 PM
Subject: RE: Facebook access problem


: Hi Tessa,
:
: So when you double tap on it, is it downloading and is the progress 
counting
: up towards 100%? If not or if it is and then it starts over you probably
: should just delete it altogether and redownload it.
:
: Regards,
: Sieghard
: 

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Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma

2013-09-22 Thread Cara Quinn
Okay Sieghard, do tell!

How on Earth did you get a colon? Each time I try, it gives me a period right 
after I touch the screen the second time.

thanks,

Cara :)
On Sep 22, 2013, at 3:47 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

Hello,
 
I am quite intriqued by the new handwriting feature and have been practicing a 
bit. I have a feeling that if a person knows how to write which I do since I 
lost my sight at the age of almost 17, this could become a rather efficient 
method of text input. I actually don’t understand why Apple does not make this 
available to all iPhone users instead of restricting it to Voiceover users.
They could have made Handwriting a keyboard choice so to speak. This way if you 
added the “Handwriting” keyboard to your list of keyboards, one could have 
simply tapped on the keyboard button at the bottom to switch to it, but maybe 
they have their reasons.
 
Anyhow, I would like to know if somebody has figured out how to best insert a 
comma. I know of course I have to switch to the punctuation area and I have 
managed to figure out how to do most commonly used symbols like a period, 
semicolon, colon, question mark, exclamation mark, Dollar sign, @ symbol, 
underscore etc.
 
I am still having a bit of trouble with a dash, if you draw a horizontal line 
across it always interprets it as an underscore.
 
I don’t think I managed to get a comma done more than once and I have no idea 
how I did it. If I simply draw a line down the screen it inserts this as a 
“vertical line”, if I give the line a bit of a curve it usually inserts a right 
parenthesis. Any explanations are appreciated.
 
Best regards,
Sieghard
 

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RE: App Store and updates. Not automatic.

2013-09-22 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Jack,

Just out of curiocity, what do you find annoying? I think of it as the
opposite and quite like the fact I can go into the Updates tab and see
exactly which apps updated in the last few days or weeks.

In addition to that I find the apps store is much faster. A sighted friend
who just updated his iPhone 4 said it used to take forever for the app store
to load on his phone and he said in general his iPhone 4 is snappier with
iOS 7 than it was with iOS 6.


Regards,
Sieghard


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jack Conti
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 4:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: App Store and updates. Not automatic.

don't think we can its anoying.At 08:30 PM 9/21/2013, you wrote:
Hello Jenny,
Yes, I am having the same thing on my iPhone 4S. I have no idea how to 
get rid of the apps that have already been updated.

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RE: Folders and VoiceOver... is this a bug?

2013-09-22 Thread Richard Turner
I'm not having this problem on my iPod Touch. If I have VoiceOver read the
entire folder, it reads only the visible 9 apps, in order.

I wonder if the iPad is showing more?
Richard


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Of Victor Marques
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 7:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Folders and VoiceOver... is this a bug?

I'm wondering if this is a bug and if it's been reportedd or if others
are having this issue forgive me if this has been mentioned
already.

Folders now have 9 apps per page and multiplle pages, I understand
this.  But when I open a folder, say with 15 apps, what VO reads for
me is the first line of 3 apps, plus the 4th app which is on the 2nd
page (not visible or available if I were to explore by touching the
screen) and then it moves on to the 2nd line of 3 apps, plus the first
app of line 2 on page 2, and then the same for line 3, so a total of
12 items are read.  This shouldn't b happening, it should just read
the 9 visible apps in my opinion., otherwise it makes it difficuult to
find an app if you're not sure on which page it will be displayed.
Are others having this issue?  I'm on an iPad mini if that makes a
difference.

Thanks
Victor

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RE: First impressions of IOS 7

2013-09-22 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Louise,

 

You might have seen Alan's suggestion to do a hard reset by holding power
and home buttons for 10 seconds before doing an upgrade. This I guess will
do it, but there is in my opinion no reason for this if a normal reboot by
turning the phone on and off will typically be quite sufficient.

Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast recommends to go into Settings, General,
Reset and tap Reset Network Settings. This will also reboot the phone, but I
usually don't like to use this method since it normally means you have to
re-enter your Wi-Fi passwords and while that is not a big deal for my home
network, I have Wi-Fi passwords in there from when I am travelling and I
prefer not to loose all of these.

Rob furthermore suggests to also clear your app switcher completely, I
generally also turn Bluetooth off before an upgrade, then I clear my app
switcher, do a backup to iCloud and/or iTunes. Once all that is done I turn
my phone off for about 30 seconds or a minute, then turn it back on and
proceed with the update. I never had an update go wrong since I bought my
first iDevice 4 years ago and it's something to remember for when the first
iOS 7 update comes out and any future updates.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Louise Redsull
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 4:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: First impressions of IOS 7

 

Hi List,

So after reading lots of posts on here I finally took the plunge and
updated. Unfortunately the update did not go very smoothly over the air
resulting in a bricked IPhone. Thankfully updating ITunes followed by a
restore solved this issue though I was wondering if this was a sign of
things to come.

Luckily I can say the update to IOS 7 has been a very positive experience so
far on my IPhone 5. If anything I feel many of the features such as typing
are faster  on the IPhone and it actually seems snappier which was a
surprise.

I haven't had too many problems with screen sensitivity. I have to say the
bug when selecting multiple email messages wehre it says selected on the
next message when you flick right is a bit irritating though.

I wasn't that excited by a lot of the new features announced for IOS 7 but
have been surprised how much I like many of them. The new app switcher is
lovely to use and siri is massively improved. I also think I might use
dictation more now you can just tap with two fingers once in an edit field.

I've had a bit of a play with the handwriting mode feature but need to learn
more letters first. It'd be great if there was a tutorial or description
somewhere of how to do different letters for people who have never really
learnt handwriting.

I'm looking forward to Itunes Radio coming to the UK as well as hopefully
different siri voices.

 

For anyone still toying with the idea of updating I can understand why you
are hesitant. All I can suggest is to read other people's views and then
make a decision. However, from my experience IOS 7 hasn't been as bad as I
thought it might be and there are a lot of surprisingly useful features
which I think will make using my IPhone an easier and more pleasant
experience.

 

Louise.

 

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Re: Guidance with handing over my iPod 4th generation to my wife

2013-09-22 Thread Chris H
Go to settings, general, reset, erase all content and settings. When the 
pod reboots wait a minute or so and triple click home to start 
VoiceOver. When asked how to set up choose the restore from backup 
option then choose restore from iCloud backup. Enter the wife's Apple Id 
and password then go from there.

On 22/09/2013 16:18, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote:

Hi,

She has in iPad 2 which we'll back up to  iCloud for use in restoring to the 
iPod Touch. She has her own Apple ID and password.

What's the best way to proceed to clear me off and get the iPod Touch  in her 
name?

I've never done this before.

Thanks in advance. Keith



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Re: Diceworld-Farkle, VO doesn't read bank score any more?

2013-09-22 Thread Maria and Joe Chapman
HI.  am having this issue as well.

send the developpers an email. they are very responsive.
Blessings!
maria and Joe chapman
Email, iMessage  fb: bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
twitter: bubbygirl



On 22/09/2013, at 11:22 AM, DJ grou...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Folks,
  
 Since upgrading to IOS 7, VO no longer announces the posible bank score when 
 selecting dice in Farkle.  Am I the only one having this issue or are there 
 others?
  
 DJ
  
 
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Re: Updating iPad mini

2013-09-22 Thread Maria and Joe Chapman
Hi no problems with updated mini here either.

Everything works as expected. 
I hope this helps.
Blessings!
maria and Joe chapman
Email, iMessage  fb: bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
twitter: bubbygirl



On 22/09/2013, at 11:09 AM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote:

 Hi, my iPad mini updated to iOS 7 without issues. What did you hear, from 
 who, and why?
 
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 On 9/20/2013 3:49 PM, Jennie Facer wrote:
 Has anyone updated their iPad mini? I heard not to? Any thoughts?
 
 Thank you so much!
 
 Jenn
 
 TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!
 
 
 
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Re: Dictating without the dictation button -- how to do it?

2013-09-22 Thread Troy Sullivan
I have too noticed this, like for example if I am leaving a voicemail, 
sometimes the 2 finger doubletap would take so long to respond that 
sometimes the voicemail wouldn't go through because it would take me to the 
options screen and sometimes people wouldn't get my voicemails, now it hangs 
up right away and answers right away too, I like that.
- Original Message - 
From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 11:09 AM
Subject: RE: Dictating without the dictation button -- how to do it?



Hi Kimber,

The Dictate button is still there on my 4S where is always has been, just 
to

the left of the spacebar when the virtual keyboard is visible.
If you touch an edit field and hear Voiceover saying, for example, 
Search

field, is editing, character mode, do a 2-finger double tap at this point
and you should hear the tone to indicate that Dictation is listening.
When you are done speaking do a 2-finger double tap again to stop 
dictation

and insert the text.

I find the increased screen sensitivity has it's bad moments, but one 
thing

I find is that using the 2-finger double tap to start and stop dictation
when I'm in an edit field or also to answer and hang up calls is a lot 
more

reliable for me and somehow seems to be faster and more snappy.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 3:56 AM
To: viphone
Subject: Dictating without the dictation button -- how to do it?

Hi All,

I used to use dictation all the time in ios6. But now with ios7 there
is no dictation button. I read a blog post that described how to do it
and they made it sound like the greatest advancement ever, but I just
can't get the hang of it. My phone never goes into dictation mode no
matter what I do. I usually just end up moving the cursor or playing
music or whatever.

Can anyone give me a sep by sep description of how to get dictation going
again?

Thanks,
Kimber

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Re: Battery Consumption in IOS

2013-09-22 Thread Troy Sullivan
I have not noticed any battery issues in ios7, just your normal stuff will 
drain it, like playing music, talking on the phone, brightness, etc.
- Original Message - 
From: Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 10:25 AM
Subject: Battery Consumption in IOS


I don't know if this is specific to IOS7, hence my subject line did not 
reference IOS7 specifically.  I am running IOS 7 on the 5S.  I thought my 
battery was draining much faster than it should.  I made all the settings 
adjustments recommended including the brightness setting at 0.  I checked 
this morning and the brightness setting showed at 29%.  I didn't adjust this 
setting.  But I think the culprit here is the Auto Brightness setting which 
is on by default.  A program must have been running which altered the 
brightness level based on Auto Brightness being on.  I toggled that setting 
to Off, and thus far, brightness remains at 0%.  My phone has been locked 
for about 2 hours, and the battery level has not dropped, so perhaps I'll 
get better battery life now.  Hope this is helpful info.


Les

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Re: Handwriting - how to get a comma

2013-09-22 Thread Carol Pearson
Seagood,
Technically a dash is written with a space either side. Does this help you to 
achieve it? Smiley


Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille

On 22 Sep 2013, at 04:31 pm, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote:

Okay Sieghard, do tell!

How on Earth did you get a colon? Each time I try, it gives me a period right 
after I touch the screen the second time.

thanks,

Cara :)
On Sep 22, 2013, at 3:47 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

Hello,
 
I am quite intriqued by the new handwriting feature and have been practicing a 
bit. I have a feeling that if a person knows how to write which I do since I 
lost my sight at the age of almost 17, this could become a rather efficient 
method of text input. I actually don’t understand why Apple does not make this 
available to all iPhone users instead of restricting it to Voiceover users.
They could have made Handwriting a keyboard choice so to speak. This way if you 
added the “Handwriting” keyboard to your list of keyboards, one could have 
simply tapped on the keyboard button at the bottom to switch to it, but maybe 
they have their reasons.
 
Anyhow, I would like to know if somebody has figured out how to best insert a 
comma. I know of course I have to switch to the punctuation area and I have 
managed to figure out how to do most commonly used symbols like a period, 
semicolon, colon, question mark, exclamation mark, Dollar sign, @ symbol, 
underscore etc.
 
I am still having a bit of trouble with a dash, if you draw a horizontal line 
across it always interprets it as an underscore.
 
I don’t think I managed to get a comma done more than once and I have no idea 
how I did it. If I simply draw a line down the screen it inserts this as a 
“vertical line”, if I give the line a bit of a curve it usually inserts a right 
parenthesis. Any explanations are appreciated.
 
Best regards,
Sieghard
 

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Re: confusing new sound in iOS 7

2013-09-22 Thread Christina C.
Ok, I will try to explain it better. :) If I hold a finger on a letter in the 
keyboard too long, like say the letter, I get that sound and VO says selected 
and I don't understand what this is for or what is happening. However, if I 
select the letter E, VO announces alternative Characters available, slide your 
finger to discover alternative characters, lift to select a character and if I 
slide my finger around VO tells me what these characters are and I have no idea 
what they are. I am guessing this is some characters for languages other than 
English. For every letter on the keyboard the alternative characters are 
different unless it's like the letter R where there does not seem to be an 
alternative character. This whole thing baffles me though. :)

Thanks,
Christina

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RE: Battery Consumption in IOS

2013-09-22 Thread Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
On my iPhone 5, it seems to me that battery life is better with iOS 7, though I 
haven't specifically compared this systematically. But my evening routine the 
past few nights hasn't changed, and I'm used to ending up with 50% power from 
starting with a full charge, and with iOS7 I'm ending up with 75%.

-Original Message-
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Troy Sullivan
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 10:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery Consumption in IOS

I have not noticed any battery issues in ios7, just your normal stuff will 
drain it, like playing music, talking on the phone, brightness, etc.
- Original Message - 
From: Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 10:25 AM
Subject: Battery Consumption in IOS


I don't know if this is specific to IOS7, hence my subject line did not 
reference IOS7 specifically.  I am running IOS 7 on the 5S.  I thought my 
battery was draining much faster than it should.  I made all the settings 
adjustments recommended including the brightness setting at 0.  I checked 
this morning and the brightness setting showed at 29%.  I didn't adjust this 
setting.  But I think the culprit here is the Auto Brightness setting which 
is on by default.  A program must have been running which altered the 
brightness level based on Auto Brightness being on.  I toggled that setting 
to Off, and thus far, brightness remains at 0%.  My phone has been locked 
for about 2 hours, and the battery level has not dropped, so perhaps I'll 
get better battery life now.  Hope this is helpful info.

Les

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RE: kindle app

2013-09-22 Thread Richard Turner
Do a double tap and hold, also called the pass-through gesture on the title
you want to delete and you will have a couple options, one of which is
Remove From Device.

HTH,
Richard


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Subject: kindle app

Hi, does anyone know how to delete books now in the kindle app. Used to 
a flick down would do it but now when you flick you just get archive and 
activate. Any help appreciated.

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Re: two finger double tap, and what plays in bard mobile

2013-09-22 Thread Cara Quinn
Actually the developers can fix this issue very easily by implementing a 
certain method in their code.

If you like, you can advise them to look in the UIAccessibility Action Protocol 
Reference. The method is called accessibilityPerformMagicTap.

Hope this helps!

Smiles,

Cara :)
On Sep 22, 2013, at 6:25 AM, Wayne gmail ewaynebrum...@gmail.com wrote:

Not sure it is an NLS problem.  Both my wife and I have had issues of music 
starting with a double tap when on the home screen or in a totally unrelated 
app like phone.  Thing is, neither of us have any music on our phones.  
Actually we did have a song by Uncle Cracker which I had accidentally bought 
about 3 years ago.  So I deleted it and it still happens although it is not 
that song now.  I’m speculating it is IRadio somehow getting kicked off instead 
of whatever we are trying to do.
 
Regards,
Wayne
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Michael Malver
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 7:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: nlsdownl...@loc.gov
Subject: two finger double tap, and what plays in bard mobile
 
Hi,
Sometimes, when I’m in bard mobile, and give a 2-finger double tap, my book 
plays and pauses as I would expect.  Other times, when I’m in bard mobile, a 
two-finger double tap starts and stops either music from the music library, or 
sometimes audio from downcast.  I can’t pinpoint what causes two finger double 
tap to sometimes work and sometimes not.  To complicate issues, I’ve listened 
to audio through Bluetooth, through wired headphones, and directly connected to 
a dock.  I haven’t used the app long enough  to figure out the conditions under 
which bard mobile won’t play its own content when double tapped, but if others 
are experiencing this, perhaps we can bring it to nls’s attention  I am running 
IOS 6 still, on an iPhone 4s.
Thanks for any help.
 
Michael
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RE: Braille does not work in Pages under iOS 7

2013-09-22 Thread Richard Turner
Thanks for confirming this issue Keith.  

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Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 8:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Braille does not work in Pages under iOS 7

Thanks for posting this, Richard. I haven't checked email fora while and
found out Pages wasn't showing Braille just this morning as I tried !read
sermon notes I had created on the -puter in Word. Please pass on any informN
you may receive on this.

Keith

Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 21, 2013, at 10:57 AM, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com
wrote:
 
 I am trying my Braille Edge 40 for the first time today with iOS 7. 
 
 It is working just fine in Notes, Mail, and general navigation. I turned
off the automatic translation and selected English US for the braille table
and so far so good.
 However, when I tried to use it with Pages, no braille showed up on the
display from the text of the document. The icons for things like tools, the
word count, and all that read just fine, but when I was in the text area of
the page, the display was blank.
 Also, as others have reported, the space plus dots 1,4,6 no longer shows
and hides the keyboard. Neither does the setting under VoiceOver Braille.
 These are pretty big issues for braille users.
 * This message is going both to the list and accessibility at
apple.Richard
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Re: App Store and updates. Not automatic.

2013-09-22 Thread Jenifer Barr
But, if you have automatic updates off, you already know which apps you 
updated. To me, it's annoying also. Jmo of course

Jenifer Barr
Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 22, 2013, at 11:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hi Jack,
 
 Just out of curiocity, what do you find annoying? I think of it as the
 opposite and quite like the fact I can go into the Updates tab and see
 exactly which apps updated in the last few days or weeks.
 
 In addition to that I find the apps store is much faster. A sighted friend
 who just updated his iPhone 4 said it used to take forever for the app store
 to load on his phone and he said in general his iPhone 4 is snappier with
 iOS 7 than it was with iOS 6.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Jack Conti
 Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 4:09 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: App Store and updates. Not automatic.
 
 don't think we can its anoying.At 08:30 PM 9/21/2013, you wrote:
 Hello Jenny,
 Yes, I am having the same thing on my iPhone 4S. I have no idea how to 
 get rid of the apps that have already been updated.
 
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Gmail problems, please reply privately!

2013-09-22 Thread Carol Pearson
If anyone can help me to sort out GMAIL please write privately and to help me 
to stop drowning in posts that are accumulating in my junk mailbox, some of 
which just isn't junk!
Oh, I hate GMAIL right now!



Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille

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iOS 7 email questions.

2013-09-22 Thread Arianna
I don't know if I can turn this off or not, but in iOS 7 when moving through 
threads, it tells me more than one name. In iOS 6, eight used to tell me just 
the name of the person hood written the first  unread message in the thread. Is 
there a way to go back to the old style of displaying emails? The reason I 
don't like this new style is because it takes a lot longer for VoiceOver to 
read the subject line.


Thanks,
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Moderator Note - Warning Messages -was- Re: Freeq by Psychic Bunny

2013-09-22 Thread Cara Quinn
HI John,

Did you read the full note that Phil sent? I don't mean to sound upset with 
you, and please know that I really do appreciate your wanting to help.

These types of alarmist messages are at best reckless and at worst damaging.

this app is VO accessible if you read the description. So to all who post 
messages to this list, please read all your info before warning people away 
from something.

Now that I've said that, if you have in fact done the above and have also found 
that the gesture mentioned in the app description does not work. Then please 
please please make that clear in your warning, and by all means post here. Does 
this make sense?

I'd also encourage you to post to the developers if you find that their 
description is not accurate in terms of accessibility.

However, as I've said above, if you have not done these steps, then please be 
more careful in future about posting such warning notes here. K?

I know Phil, and I'm sure he is not posting something which is not accessible.

So to all, please just remember to take a breath, and get your facts in order 
before posting. K?

thanks a bunch to all of you. Thank you John, for being so actively involved 
and really wanting to help other listers here. I do honestly very much 
appreciate your desire to help!

So thank you and have a great day!

Smiles,

Cara :)
On Sep 22, 2013, at 7:20 AM, bj colt bjc...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:

Hi,

Is this ap accessible? I downloaded it and had to sign up to on line games. 
When I open the freeq ap I cannot read anything on the screen. I don't advise 
anyone to buy this ap until I get some sighted help to determine if it works or 
not.

Live long and prosper, John

--
From: Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 12:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Freeq by Psychic Bunny

 Freeq
 FREEQ is an audio adventure game for iPhone and android mobile devices
 $4.99 USD
 by Psychic Bunny
 An audio adventure game that gives you the amazing ability to tune in to 
 phone calls and radio signals from the past or future. You can essentially 
 travel through time and change the world.
 
 After a major disaster, there's only one society left on Earth. You can use 
 your powerful tool to tune in to their dramatic conversations about affairs, 
 arguments, experiments, and more.
 
 This is nothing like the games you're used to playing on your iPhone.
 
 There are plenty of instructions to read through before you get started. I do 
 actually recommend reading them all so you don't find things confusing once 
 you start searching for signals to hijack.
 Hijacking a phone line is done in two stages. The first involves tilting your 
 phone until you find a signal and the second involves a switchboard where you 
 have to decide who to connect with. If you don't make your decision quickly 
 enough, you'll lose your signal and end up back at the first stage.
 
 The story you end up being a part of depends on who you connect with and when 
 you make make the connections. It's worth listening to the conversations 
 carefully so you can decide on what connections to make next. Every 
 conversation you create will give you more clues about what actually caused 
 the world to end.
 
 The actual process of finding signals and hijacking conversations is quite 
 repetitive. This app is entertaining because of the stories. The fact that 
 some people know that you're listening to their conversations makes it even 
 more interesting. After listening to a few phone calls, you'll really want to 
 know how the story ends and what happens to the characters involved.
 If you're the type who enjoys interactive stories and radio shows, you'll 
 love FREEQ. It's also worth checking out if you're getting bored with normal 
 iPhone games and want to try something completely different.
 
 Version 1.2
 Accessibility Update! FREEQ is now usable for blind and low-vision players.
 Audio instructions are in-game for further information.
 It has an accessibility mode that uses voiceover like jestures, that being 
 flick  and double tap. To activate it, you put your thumb and finger together 
 then slide them both away from each other, like the opposite of a pinch in 
 smack me.
 
 US iTunes link:
 https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/freeq/id577659568?mt=8
 Google play:
 https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=Psychic+Bunny
 
 Auido announcement:
 http://soundcloud.com/psychic-bunny/freeq-audio-only-announcement
 
 
 
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Rotor inconsistencies.

2013-09-22 Thread Arianna
This is a really weird one, and I can't figure out why it's happening. I think 
it might be a bug. Anyhow, I put handwriting in my rotor, and I madean sure 
that it was the last item on the list. There are other items beneath it, but 
they are not selected. When I am in edit field, I used to be able to turn the 
rotor two characters, and then words, and then lines. Now it goes characters, 
handwriting, words, lines. Is anybody else having this issue? It's really 
really frustrating and driving me nuts, because I keep accidentally inputting 
characters.

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Siri

2013-09-22 Thread Carol
Since upgrading to IOS7 I have noted a definitely lower standard of Siri's 
interpretation.  Is this because Siri has started again from scratch for me, or 
something else?  I have chosen to use the American female voice for Siri.  Does 
this, perhaps, mean that my requests to Siri are being handled by a different 
server and not the one closest to me, thus a possible reason for the increase 
in errors?

Any comments would be most welcome.

Carol P
Sent from the Mac

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Re: Freeq by Psychic Bunny

2013-09-22 Thread Cara Quinn
Hi again John,

thanks very much for the update here.

Please do let us know what you find, and if it turns out that you cannot get 
this to work, then by all means, this may be something to write the developers 
about.

I'll be trying this one out shortly as well.

thanks and have a great day.

Smiles,

Cara :)
On Sep 22, 2013, at 7:49 AM, bj colt bjc...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:

Hi Maria and Joe,

Apologies if this has been sent twice, email problems. I have been trying that 
gesture for the past ten minutes, alternating the length of gap between thumb 
and index finger, trying it slow, mid and fast. Nothing seems to work. I will 
give my fingers a rest and try again and again and again till it works. I have 
also tried the gesture on different parts of the screen. No joy anywhere. Maybe 
I just need more practice for that gesture as it is new to me.

Live long and prosper, Johns

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From: Maria and Joe Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 3:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Freeq by Psychic Bunny

 HI did you try the gesture that was spoken about in the message below?
 
 I'll paste it here just in case I read it wrong or something.
 pasted message:
 It has an accessibility mode that uses voiceover like jestures, that being 
 flick  and double tap. To activate it, you put your thumb and finger 
 together then slide them both away from each other, like the opposite of a 
 pinch in smack me.
 I don't know if this works or not because I haven't bought the game yet. Am 
 waiting for opinions on it.
 Cheers
 Maria
 
 sent from mac mini
 email,  fb bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
 skype bubbygirl1972  twitter same as skype without the numbers.
 
 
 
 
 
 On 23/09/2013, at 12:20 AM, bj colt bjc...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Is this ap accessible? I downloaded it and had to sign up to on line games. 
 When I open the freeq ap I cannot read anything on the screen. I don't 
 advise anyone to buy this ap until I get some sighted help to determine if 
 it works or not.
 
 Live long and prosper, John
 
 --
 From: Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net
 Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 12:45 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Freeq by Psychic Bunny
 
 Freeq
 FREEQ is an audio adventure game for iPhone and android mobile devices
 $4.99 USD
 by Psychic Bunny
 An audio adventure game that gives you the amazing ability to tune in to 
 phone calls and radio signals from the past or future. You can essentially 
 travel through time and change the world.
 
 After a major disaster, there's only one society left on Earth. You can use 
 your powerful tool to tune in to their dramatic conversations about 
 affairs, arguments, experiments, and more.
 
 This is nothing like the games you're used to playing on your iPhone.
 
 There are plenty of instructions to read through before you get started. I 
 do actually recommend reading them all so you don't find things confusing 
 once you start searching for signals to hijack.
 Hijacking a phone line is done in two stages. The first involves tilting 
 your phone until you find a signal and the second involves a switchboard 
 where you have to decide who to connect with. If you don't make your 
 decision quickly enough, you'll lose your signal and end up back at the 
 first stage.
 
 The story you end up being a part of depends on who you connect with and 
 when you make make the connections. It's worth listening to the 
 conversations carefully so you can decide on what connections to make next. 
 Every conversation you create will give you more clues about what actually 
 caused the world to end.
 
 The actual process of finding signals and hijacking conversations is quite 
 repetitive. This app is entertaining because of the stories. The fact that 
 some people know that you're listening to their conversations makes it even 
 more interesting. After listening to a few phone calls, you'll really want 
 to know how the story ends and what happens to the characters involved.
 If you're the type who enjoys interactive stories and radio shows, you'll 
 love FREEQ. It's also worth checking out if you're getting bored with 
 normal iPhone games and want to try something completely different.
 
 Version 1.2
 Accessibility Update! FREEQ is now usable for blind and low-vision players.
 Audio instructions are in-game for further information.
 It has an accessibility mode that uses voiceover like jestures, that being 
 flick  and double tap. To activate it, you put your thumb and finger 
 together then slide them both away from each other, like the opposite of a 
 pinch in smack me.
 
 US iTunes link:
 https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/freeq/id577659568?mt=8
 Google play:
 https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=Psychic+Bunny
 
 Auido announcement:
 http://soundcloud.com/psychic-bunny/freeq-audio-only-announcement
 
 
 
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Voice Note Taker App

2013-09-22 Thread Alan Paganelli
In the previous 6.1.what ever, in the voice notes recorder, I could use a two 
finger double tap to start and stop recording.  That's no longer the case.  Has 
any one else tried this and if so, did it work for you?
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Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!  Move 
out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

Please click on: 
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

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RE: confusing new sound in iOS 7

2013-09-22 Thread Debbie Worstman
Yes, I noticed this too. Wonder if there is anyway of turning all this extra
info off.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Christina C.
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 8:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: confusing new sound in iOS 7

Ok, I will try to explain it better. :) If I hold a finger on a letter in
the keyboard too long, like say the letter, I get that sound and VO says
selected and I don't understand what this is for or what is happening.
However, if I select the letter E, VO announces alternative Characters
available, slide your finger to discover alternative characters, lift to
select a character and if I slide my finger around VO tells me what these
characters are and I have no idea what they are. I am guessing this is some
characters for languages other than English. For every letter on the
keyboard the alternative characters are different unless it's like the
letter R where there does not seem to be an alternative character. This
whole thing baffles me though. :)

Thanks,
Christina

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RE: two finger double tap, and what plays in bard mobile

2013-09-22 Thread Wayne gmail
Thanks Cara.  I assume by developers you mean Apple since this is happening
in iOS native apps and home screen.  Think I should send this to
accessibility or maybe Apple's support?

 

Regards, 

Wayne

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Cara Quinn
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 11:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: two finger double tap, and what plays in bard mobile

 

Actually the developers can fix this issue very easily by implementing a
certain method in their code.

 

If you like, you can advise them to look in the UIAccessibility Action
Protocol Reference. The method is called accessibilityPerformMagicTap.

 

Hope this helps!

 

Smiles,

 

Cara :)

On Sep 22, 2013, at 6:25 AM, Wayne gmail ewaynebrum...@gmail.com wrote:

 

Not sure it is an NLS problem.  Both my wife and I have had issues of music
starting with a double tap when on the home screen or in a totally unrelated
app like phone.  Thing is, neither of us have any music on our phones.
Actually we did have a song by Uncle Cracker which I had accidentally bought
about 3 years ago.  So I deleted it and it still happens although it is not
that song now.  I'm speculating it is IRadio somehow getting kicked off
instead of whatever we are trying to do.

 

Regards,

Wayne

 

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Subject: two finger double tap, and what plays in bard mobile

 

Hi,

Sometimes, when I'm in bard mobile, and give a 2-finger double tap, my book
plays and pauses as I would expect.  Other times, when I'm in bard mobile, a
two-finger double tap starts and stops either music from the music library,
or sometimes audio from downcast.  I can't pinpoint what causes two finger
double tap to sometimes work and sometimes not.  To complicate issues, I've
listened to audio through Bluetooth, through wired headphones, and directly
connected to a dock.  I haven't used the app long enough  to figure out the
conditions under which bard mobile won't play its own content when double
tapped, but if others are experiencing this, perhaps we can bring it to
nls's attention  I am running IOS 6 still, on an iPhone 4s.

Thanks for any help.

 

Michael

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NBC Nightly News app

2013-09-22 Thread Alan Paganelli
I see that now the NBC Nightly news app works the right way in IOS 7.  
Previously, when you tried to double tap the broadcast button nothing happened. 
 You could get it to work by tapping it, turning off voice over via the triple 
click home method, double tapping the button again and turning voice over back 
on.  A real hassle but at least you could make it work.  I'm delighted to say 
that this is no longer the case or at least not on my iPhone 4.  Now double 
tapping the full broadcast button actually brings up the list of shows you can 
listen to.

HTH 
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Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!  Move 
out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

Please click on: 
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

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Finding The Gift Button In The App Store On The Phone

2013-09-22 Thread Eileens Misrahi
Hello List,

I'm running an iPhone 4 with version 6.0.2.I want to gift an app. I have 
searched for it and opened it to the point of pressing the buy button. Where do 
I find the gift button to gift the app? Any suggestions is most welcomed, as I 
am the one who has the gift card tied to my account. 

Thanks in advance.

Best,
Eileen


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Multiple keyboard funkiness with iOS7

2013-09-22 Thread Cristóbal
Hello,

 

For those who are using multiple keyboard layouts, are you having problems
when cycling through them? I’ve got English, Spanish, german and the Emogy
and when I tap on the next keyboard button next to the dictate button,
instead of being taken to the next keyboard in the rotation and that is
being announced by VO, I’m placed in a totally different one. 

I like how now the next keyboard button says the keyboard language, but not
very helpful if when pressing on it, you’re taken to something else
entirely. 

Also, I’ve got Spanish mexico enabled, but it sounds like the Spanish Spain
voice comes up instead when typing. 

 

 

 

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RE: two finger double tap, and what plays in bard mobile

2013-09-22 Thread Cristóbal
This happens to me too, but also in other apps such as Downcast and the
AtBat app. 

 

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Of Michael Malver
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 5:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: nlsdownl...@loc.gov
Subject: two finger double tap, and what plays in bard mobile

 

Hi,

Sometimes, when I’m in bard mobile, and give a 2-finger double tap, my book
plays and pauses as I would expect.  Other times, when I’m in bard mobile, a
two-finger double tap starts and stops either music from the music library,
or sometimes audio from downcast.  I can’t pinpoint what causes two finger
double tap to sometimes work and sometimes not.  To complicate issues, I’ve
listened to audio through Bluetooth, through wired headphones, and directly
connected to a dock.  I haven’t used the app long enough  to figure out the
conditions under which bard mobile won’t play its own content when double
tapped, but if others are experiencing this, perhaps we can bring it to
nls’s attention  I am running IOS 6 still, on an iPhone 4s.

Thanks for any help.

 

Michael

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Apple Store app

2013-09-22 Thread Geoff Stephens
It seems that the Apple Store app is rather hit and miss with the ability to
select items for purchase.  For example, I am in the process of purchasing a
couple of Macbook Airs and have discovered that I do not seem to be able to
select and customize them in the Apple Store app using iOS7 and an iPhone.

 

Does anyone have any insight on the accessibility of this app?  Has it
changed recently?

 

 

 

 

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Re: how to re name folders in ios 7 on the 4s?

2013-09-22 Thread Joseph FreeTech
Well, your statement begs the question why?

Joseph

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Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 11:24 PM
Subject: RE: how to re name folders in ios 7 on the 4s?


Hi Joseph and Mich,

I would strongly discourage anybody from using the custom label feature
(double tap and hold) as Joseph described it to rename folders.
You can properly rename a folder as follows:

1. Double tap on the folder to open it.
2. Do a 1-finger double tap and hold on either the folder name once the
folder is open or on one of the apps in the folder. If you do it on one of
the apps, let's say I have the Dropbox app in a folder called Business and
Productivity, then the double tap and hold will put you into moving mode
and Voiceover will say Moving Dropbox, Dropbox, is editing. If you do the
double tap and hold on the folder, you have to do another double tap and
hold to get into the actual editing mode.
3. If you did the gesture on an app, swipe left until you get to the folder
name or the Clear All button which will clear the edit field completely.
4. Delete part of the folder name or clear the entire field with the Clear
All button.
5. Type in what you want the folder to be called or do a 2-finger double tap
to start Dictating if you have an iPhone 4S or above and speak the folder
name.
6. Press the Home key to get out of editing mode, press home a second time
to close the folder.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Of Joseph FreeTech
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 10:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: how to re name folders in ios 7 on the 4s?

To rename a folder:
Focus on a folder then execute a 2-finger double-tap and hold.
You'll hear a cool little sound effect.
Now you can rename your folder.
When you have finished simply double-tap on save.

I used this method to remove the word folder after every folder. Since I
already know it's a folder, seems a bit redundant. Smile.

Joseph

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From: Mich mi...@eastlink.ca
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Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 10:05 PM
Subject: how to re name folders in ios 7 on the 4s?


Hi all. I just tonight spent about a hour and a bit dragging and dropping
things in to some folders and creating them on my IPhone 4s with ios7. This
was the first time I have dun this and I feel it went very well. I did have
a question though. How do you go about re naming folders in ios7? I don't
like some of the names that apple has for the folders and would like to re
name them if at all possible. I also wish that apple would have a option
where say if you have allot of games that instead of dragging and dropping
them in to the games folder that it would just add them or be like a toggle
where you could choose if you wanted to add this game to the games folder.
from Mich.

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Weather widget and current temperature in iOS 7

2013-09-22 Thread Geoff Stephens
While I have managed to get the weather widget to show in the today view of
the notification center, the current temperature seems to be missing.  Can
anyone confirm this, or am I experiencing an anomaly?

 

 

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Re: More on iOS seven

2013-09-22 Thread Joseph FreeTech
Regarding your complaints below, you were warned over and over as to the 
possible repercussions of an upgrade. Maybe the lead tech at Apple didn't 
call you personally, but you have been here during a previous IOS upgrade, 
so you should know what to expect. On the issue of the time, press the power 
button and wait for the time to be spoken. It takes a second longer, but it 
is definitely speaking properly. Most early adopters are not going through 
the misery you are conveying. Also, all this is new, and most of the 
perceived problems are more likely user error and not necessarily problems 
with the new version of IOS.

Joseph

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Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 12:01 AM
Subject: Re: More on iOS seven


That I am saying is if I bought a iPhone 5, with IOs6, who works worse that
IOs 5 in my old iPhone 4, even though, with that IOs my iPhone 5 was
working. Now if I install a new version of IOs, but it has bugs, and a lot
of issues that I am reading that happen to me and to  bunches of members of
this list. Why apple doesn't allow me, to return back to the Ios6, to the
IOs that I had that was working? Now I am not able to read the time, I have
to unlock the phone, I have to find the clock with my finger, and get the
time. Before I just push the power button, and I got the time.
Before I was going to the notification center, and I had the weather right
there. Now I have to do a lot of steps to read it.
Before voice over respond very quick, now it works very slow.
before when I open an app, my phone respond fast, and consistence, now it
works so slow, and some times the apps just doesn't open.
I think that the idea when a company create new versions of operated
systems, is to improve the functionality, but the reality is different. Any
way, if the Ios 7 is good or if it is bad, it is not the issue. I am a
customer that is not satisfied with how my product works with the last
update. I want that the product that I bought 1 years ago, works like it was
doing when I bought it, because the last update is giving me problems. It is
a right that I have like customer. I want my product, working, if they did
mistakes, bugs, and things that they need to fix, they should let me use the
operates system that I had before, until they fix what ever they have to
fix. That I am saying is that Apple should let me downgrade my iPhone, until
they fix what ever they did wrong.

- Original Message - 
From: Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: More on iOS seven


 Hi Pablo, you are certainly entitled to being frustrated and to demand
 that Apple make everything work perfectly. However I seem to recall that
 you sent this list a ton of messages about how you didn't want to upgrade
 to iOS 6 because of bugs. Then you upgraded to iOS 6 and you kept asking
 the list how to revert back to iOS 5. Now it seems you are doing the same
 with iOS 7 in wanting to go back to iOS 6. I just don't get it. If you
 don't want to risk the new bugs introduced with a new iOS, then wait like
 you did with iOS 6 until a newer iOS 7, maybe iOS 7.01 or something is
 out.

 Just a friendly suggestion.

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 On 9/21/2013 3:59 PM, Pablo Morales wrote:
 should be a way to crak that locked that apple did with the downgrades.
 I don't know, I don't see it fir. I pay a device, so if they provide a
 upgrade, an operated system, that doesn't work for me, but the previous
 operated system that my device worked well. Why is fir that apple
 doesn't allow me to go back to the operated system that was working for
 me when I bought the device?
 I would like to ask to my lawyer is it is legal, or what kind of law
 frame work can I use to improve it for the customers. Customers that
 are buying a product that the upgrades reduce the functionality of what
 ever they bought.

 - Original Message - From: James Lockwood
 lockwoo...@gmail.com
 To: iphone group viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 4:38 PM
 Subject: More on iOS seven


 Earlier I posted that you could revert back to iOS 6. Unfortunately
 Apple has blocked that ability now. You were able to revert when iOS
 seven beta was out. But with the public release of iOS 7 you can't.
 Apple operating system is still the most accessible application on the
 market. But there are definite bugs in it compared to iOS 6. Why Apple
 doesn't put voice over features through a more rigorous testing process
 I don't know. But here are a compilation of the problems I have
 experienced thus far.



 Many have discussed the jerkiness of voiceover. IT will have experienced
 this. I have an iPhone five and iOS seven. To be more specific it occurs
 

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