Braille Sluggishness, Was Re: Any other way of Reorganizing what's in the Rotor?

2014-11-27 Thread Teresa Cochran
I don't use both Braille and speech at the same time when doing extensive reading. I use one or the other, so I don't know how to answer that question. Did you try rebooting your device to see if the sluggishness goes away? Teresa "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, an

RE: Shift In 8.1.1

2014-11-27 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Gary, I don’t see this at all. Double tapping shift capitalizes the next letter for me, triple tapping turns caps lock on and a double tap turns it off again. Maybe see if turning off your phone for 30 seconds and turning it back on will resolve this. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [m

Re: Shift In 8.1.1

2014-11-27 Thread Richard Turner
Hi, if you are using touch typing, after triple tapping on the shift key, to take it off caps lock, just touch and release the shift. To capitalize one letter, just touch and release the shift key, type your letter and the next letter will be lower case. HTH, Richard Reality is the leading caus

Questions about iCloud and my iPhone 4.

2014-11-27 Thread Kevin Minor
Hi. I know, I need to upgrade, but the phone does what I need, and as for money, as they say, "You can't get blood from a turnip." I have several questions about iCloud. First, I have set up an iCloud account. Since I set up the account, I changed email addresses, and I updated my Apple I

Re: to update or not - Re: moderator warning - Re: starting with IOs 8.1.1

2014-11-27 Thread Gary Petraccaro
Plus, you can put Linux on that PC. And there's K1000 and GWMicro. - Original Message - From: "Christopher Chaltain" To: Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2014 1:10 PM Subject: Re: to update or not - Re: moderator warning - Re: starting with IOs 8.1.1 I don't get the pioneers referenc

Re: moderator warning - Re: starting with IOs 8.1.1

2014-11-27 Thread Gary Petraccaro
I have not been following your iPhone problems, so please answer one question for me. Did you ever exchange your phone for another unit or is this the same phone which has been giving you problems? - Original Message - From: "Pablo Morales" To: Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2014 2:5

Shift In 8.1.1

2014-11-27 Thread Gary Petraccaro
I'm seeing a bug with the shift key in touch typing. I think that's what it's called. When I tripple tap the shift key, it goes to typing uppercase. Either tripple tapping or double tapping does not bring back lowercase. Likewise, if I doubletap the shift, it goes to uppercase, but after typ

RE: App for storing text files

2014-11-27 Thread Beverly Wieland
Sieghard, I have not thought of using dropbox for storing my files. I don't even have an account, but have received invitations to view files others have stored. I will set up an account and try it out. I like the idea that I can download the files from my computer and access them on my iPh

Re: Really Low Voice Over Volume On Phone Calls

2014-11-27 Thread Arnold Schmidt
Thanks, turning audio ducking back on fixed it. I think, in my case, I will leave it on, and turn it off when I want to, rather than turning it on before a phone call. Because, if I get a call and need to interact with it, I can't hear Voice Over with audio ducking turned off. This is very un

Re: Really Low Voice Over Volume On Phone Calls

2014-11-27 Thread David Chittenden
Yes, this is correct. Audio ducking is the process by which VoiceOver volume is raised and other volume is lowered. It is a new setting in iOS 8, and it confused me for a couple weeks before I figured out why I was no longer hearing VO very well. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...

Re: Really Low Voice Over Volume On Phone Calls

2014-11-27 Thread Alex Hall
I haven't tested this, but someone said that enabling audio ducking helps a lot. Put that in your rotor, and enable it right before a phone call if you normally keep it disabled. > On Nov 27, 2014, at 9:45 PM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: > > This started happening a few days ago, and is getting worse

Really Low Voice Over Volume On Phone Calls

2014-11-27 Thread Arnold Schmidt
This started happening a few days ago, and is getting worse. Even with the voice over volume at 100 percent, it is hard to hear voice over when on a phone call, whether using the speaker, or my ear pods. It is a little better over my bluetooth headset, but not much. I did the reset all setting

Re: difference between touch typing and direct touch typing

2014-11-27 Thread Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona
on the direct touch typing it also appears that you can move your finger around the screen and it speaks everything that is on your screen when u move your finger around it will speak what your finger is over simular to what android explore by touch does. just something I observed On 11/27/201

Re: moderator warning - Re: starting with IOs 8.1.1

2014-11-27 Thread Gmail
Why did you have to restore your iPhone? I'm just curious. Thanks, Ari > On Nov 27, 2014, at 4:17 PM, Charles Rivard wrote: > > You could have continued using 7.1.2. Once you upgraded from that, though, > beyond a certain time, you could not downgrade. Instructions on how to > downgrade,

Re: Audio Demonstration: Siri versus Google Voice Search

2014-11-27 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Mike, I would have expected a Siri API before we got third-party keyboards actually, but third-party keyboards give me hope that we will eventually get there with the Siri API. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org > On 28/11/2014

Re: Audio Demonstration: Siri versus Google Voice Search

2014-11-27 Thread Mike Arrigo
I think part of the issue is that Apple likes to keep much more control over things than google. I agree that a siri API would be awesome. On Nov 27, 2014, at 9:55 AM, Jonathan Mosen wrote: > Hi Robin, you make a really important point. With all the extensability > features added in iOS 8, ther

Re: to update or not - Re: moderator warning - Re: starting with IOs 8.1.1

2014-11-27 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I see. IOS 8.1.1 is the fourth release of the IOS 8 firmware. It's been out for more than 2 months, more than 1/6 or 16% of it's life expectancy. How long do people have to wait before upgrading and being able to take advantage of the new features without being portrayed as pioneers? We're not

Re: moderator warning - Re: starting with IOs 8.1.1

2014-11-27 Thread Charles Rivard
You could have continued using 7.1.2. Once you upgraded from that, though, beyond a certain time, you could not downgrade. Instructions on how to downgrade, when it was still possible to do so, were given on this list. I know. I saw them. Not doing so during the grace period was your fault,

RE: moderator warning - Re: starting with IOs 8.1.1

2014-11-27 Thread Pablo Morales
No Kelly. You are wrong. I had to update my iPhone. You know why? Because the dictator apple, doesn't allow me to restore my iPhone, with the IOs 7.1.2 that I have stored in my computer. I couldn't restore my iPhone when I was using IOs 7.1.2, because ... guess. Apple doesn't allow to do it. Aft

Re: to update or not - Re: moderator warning - Re: starting with IOs 8.1.1

2014-11-27 Thread Charles Rivard
The reference to being a pioneer is regarding those that chose to immediately install newly available firmware, risking being the first to get bugs. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From:

Re: moderator warning - Re: starting with IOs 8.1.1

2014-11-27 Thread Charles Rivard
Wouldn't it be better for you to continually voice your opinions to Apple rather than to this list? Why not cut out any "middle men", and convey your thoughts directly to the source? --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! -

Re: Audio Demonstration: Siri versus Google Voice Search

2014-11-27 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Kerri, you're factually incorrect when you say that Siri doesn't work in New Zealand. It does. A couple of functions don't. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org > On 28/11/2014, at 12:11 pm, Kerri G wrote: > > Hi, Jonathan: >

Re: moderator warning - Re: starting with IOs 8.1.1

2014-11-27 Thread Kelly Pierce
Pablo, In the United States, Europe, and in the rest of the free western world,we have immense amounts of political freedom. We do have corporate dictators though. Apple’s policy of not allowing users to revert to a previous iOS version is well known. Upgrading to a new iOS version is essentially

Re: Audio Demonstration: Siri versus Google Voice Search

2014-11-27 Thread Kerri G
Hi, Jonathan: I do see your point but I just thought that since you know it doesn’t work in New Zealand, why demonstrate that it doesn’t? Now I think it *needs to work in *all countries. For me, I’m not much into Siri or any voice recognition for that matter so barely use it but I of see that

Re: A general technical question

2014-11-27 Thread Kelly Pierce
Is the phone unlocked from Verizon? If so, have you verified this with Verizon? In general, Verizon iPhones starting with the iPhone 5 can accept a nanno SIM card from a GSM carrier, such as AT&T and T-Mobile. This came about in a legal settlement with the federal government. I cannot speak to

Re: moderator warning - Re: starting with IOs 8.1.1

2014-11-27 Thread Kerri G
And, if I may add, since we will commence not listening to you, what will happen if you have real issues, Pablo, you will not obtain assistance, you cry foul too many times. > On Nov 27, 2014, at 2:21 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: > > Well Pablo, do you think Apple is listening or will listen to yo

Re: moderator warning - Re: starting with IOs 8.1.1

2014-11-27 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Well Pablo, do you think Apple is listening or will listen to your negative messages? I don't think so. It's the same thing with this list. You've been saying the same crap since iOS 6 that Apple doesn't give a damn about us and that they're breaking accessibility with every major release. And j

Re: NFL Mobile

2014-11-27 Thread Christopher Chaltain
When this happens to me, I just close the stream and then click on the listen live button again. On 11/27/2014 01:55 PM, Andy Baracco wrote: The problem is that whatever I do, I keep ending up hearing a game I listened to a few weeks ago. Always the same game. This happens whatever method I use

Re: Any other way of Reorganizing what's in the Rotor?

2014-11-27 Thread Flor Lynch
I'm wondering why my Focus14 braille display's ability to move by panning down and up the screen slowed down in the last few days. Ok, I may have increased VO's speaking rate slightly. Undoing other things I did around that time seemed to have no effect. Maybe at a certain point, when speech is

Re: NFL Mobile

2014-11-27 Thread Andy Baracco
The problem is that whatever I do, I keep ending up hearing a game I listened to a few weeks ago. Always the same game. This happens whatever method I use. This happens even after rebooting the phone. Andy -Original Message- From: Christopher Chaltain Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2014

A general technical question

2014-11-27 Thread Donald L. Roberts
I am shopping for a used or refurbished 5S and need clarification about carrier specifications. At present, I have two IOS devices a 4S which is activated on Verizon, and a 4 which is activated on Page Plus. Page Plus operates on the Verizon network which of course is CDMA. Until this mornin

RE: turning voice over on and off

2014-11-27 Thread Pablo Morales
I have 4 years using an iPhone. Believe me, I know how click on the home button. The case wasn’t a problem when I was using IOs 7.1.2, so IOs 8.1.1 is missing with my case? amazing From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Thursday,

RE: moderator warning - Re: starting with IOs 8.1.1

2014-11-27 Thread Pablo Morales
Raul, I don't want to be arguing with you , really it is not helpful for the list. But I have to clarify that my porpoise is , advice and help everybody, even me. I don't know if you remember, since I started writing emails to the list, regarding IOs problems, that I have been saying, that if we

Re: IOs 8.1.1, starting; Bluetooth keyboard, and weather app

2014-11-27 Thread Robert Doc Wright
Ok Thanks a lot. sliding over from the index instead of flicking did the trick. - Original Message - From: "Christopher Chaltain" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 6:38 AM Subject: Re: IOs 8.1.1, starting; Bluetooth keyboard, and weather app It works for me as well. Sometimes I n

Re: moderator warning - Re: starting with IOs 8.1.1

2014-11-27 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I actually don't think Apple is wrong for downloading updates ahead of time and dropping support for older releases. There are good reasons to do this, and they're related to Apple's model of having the best customer experience and great customer support. I think this is all related to why peop

Re: moderator warning - Re: starting with IOs 8.1.1

2014-11-27 Thread Sandratomkins
Hi, I should like to add my voice to that of Pablo.I too felt somewhat pushed to update my for S.The unwanted update had been downloaded to my phone against my desires and was sitting using up the last bit of available space there.I could, of course, have deleted it, but it would've downloaded

Re: moderator warning - Re: starting with IOs 8.1.1

2014-11-27 Thread Alex Hall
Bill, congratulations on your (soon to be) Mac! If you need help with it, there are a couple email lists, and www.applevis.com has a page with content for those new to the Mac. Everyone else: I believe what Raul was saying is that, with every update, bugs happen. This

Re: Having A "Senior Moment"

2014-11-27 Thread Andrew Lamanche
Ah, yes, I did the same booboo in the past and was asking a SOS question on the list. I just didn’t know that it might happen. Now I’ve learnt my lesson and you are making me aware again that it might happen agian. Thanks. And don’t feel silly. And it’s kind of of you to share. Andrew > On

Re: to update or not - Re: moderator warning - Re: starting with IOs 8.1.1

2014-11-27 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I don't get the pioneers reference. I don't see people moving to Apple products as being pioneers. Apple has been making PC's longer than IBM and Apple created the smart phone market in the US. I also don't understand the discussion about Windows and other technologies not protecting a user's

RE: Having A "Senior Moment"

2014-11-27 Thread Terrie Terlau
Bill, Thank you for sharing. I would have done the same thing you did. I willl remember this so I don/'t. Terrie -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Gallik Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2014 12:35 PM To: E-Mail Group, viPhon

Having A "Senior Moment"

2014-11-27 Thread Bill Gallik
OK Gang, much as I hate to confess to this "DO'OH" mishap on my part, I think some of you might benefit from this refresher; the volume control for the ear phone and the speaker are independent of each other. What this means in practical terms is that while you might be able to hear VoiceOver

Re: to update or not - Re: moderator warning - Re: starting with IOs 8.1.1

2014-11-27 Thread Bill Gallik
Ha ha ha! Very well put Charles, pioneers are indeed usually the first to encounter arrows! That is funny -- methinks I'll save this for future correspondence (on other lists of course)! Holland's Boy, Bill - "Always acknowledge a fault. This will throw those in authority off their guard

to update or not - Re: moderator warning - Re: starting with IOs 8.1.1

2014-11-27 Thread Charles Rivard
Pioneers are usually the first to encounter arrows. Always, when a new operating system is introduced, keep this in mind. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: "Bill Gallik" To: Sent:

Re: moderator warning - Re: starting with IOs 8.1.1

2014-11-27 Thread Bill Gallik
I for one, will not ever install any future versions of X.0 where "X" might be "9," "10," "11" or whatever future version releases may be forthcoming until most accessibility bugs are resolved -- I hope to live long enough to see iOS 40.???! The disruptions I experienced in moving from 7.1.2 t

Re: moderator warning - Re: starting with IOs 8.1.1

2014-11-27 Thread RobH.
I think he means, he usually means:- if it's not advice that is useful or helps someone, then it serves no real purpose on the list. There have been timely warnings about bugs to save a few falling over them, that at least was useful. He encourages us to ask ourselves - does this add to the k

Re: moderator warning - Re: starting with IOs 8.1.1

2014-11-27 Thread Terrie Arnold
yes many many people have had problems with the update of ios. so what if the keyboard was talked of on this list before as I just switched from the 5 to the 6 plus and I did not pay attention to the keyboard stuff as it did not apply to myself at that time. But in

Re: difference between touch typing and direct touch typing

2014-11-27 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Also with touch typing, even if you land right on top of the character you want to enter, you still need to wait a beat before the character is entered. This is so if you land on the wrong character you have a chance to move around and find the right character before lifting your finger. With t

Re: moderator warning - Re: starting with IOs 8.1.1

2014-11-27 Thread Terrie Arnold
yes many many people have had problems with the update of ios. so what if the keyboard was talked of on this list before as I just switched from the 5 to the 6 plus and I did not pay attention to the keyboard stuff as it did not apply to myself at that time. But i

Re: difference between touch typing and direct touch typing

2014-11-27 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Mike, direct touch typing is actually a pretty good description of how the feature works. Rather than dragging your finger around the screen and lifting your finger when you find the character you were looking for, direct touch typing is designed for you to tap the character exactly. It requi

Re: Audio Demonstration: Siri versus Google Voice Search

2014-11-27 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Robin, you make a really important point. With all the extensability features added in iOS 8, there is still no Siri API. Imagine if you could ask Siri to read the latest John Grisham from Bookshare, which could cause Voice Dream to spring into action, tune into your favourite local station,

difference between touch typing and direct touch typing

2014-11-27 Thread Mike Arrigo
Hey everyone. I finally did upgrade to IOS 8.1.1, so far it seems to work fine, only issue I have found so far is that the caller id does not always speak. Anyway, wondering what the difference is between touch typing and direct touch typing. The direct touch typing option is new with IOS 8 --

Re: How do i make Sonos see i have a nas with music on it?

2014-11-27 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi, Thanks so much everyone who have answered. The problem has now been solved using just the method outlined below. /Krister > 27 nov 2014 kl. 15:54 skrev Jim Ruby : > > Hi, here is what I did using sonos on the ios device. > > Note I am using the beta 5.2.x > > From sonos main menu double cl

RE: turning voice over on and off

2014-11-27 Thread Richard Turner
A couple things. If you have a case on the phone, make sure it is not loose. I had a case that until I made sure it was on correctly, I could not get a triple click of the home button to work. Also, the clicks need to be within about a half second of each other. Make sure in Settings, G

Re: turning voice over on and off

2014-11-27 Thread alia robinson
if it opened the app switcher you are only pressing it twice. Alia > On Nov 27, 2014, at 9:23 AM, Pablo Morales wrote: > > In my phone now, after 8.1.1, when I press 3 times the homebutton, it opens > the app switcher now, it doesn’t turn off or on VO. Before with IOs 7.1.2 > did pretty well

RE: How do i make Sonos see i have a nas with music on it?

2014-11-27 Thread Jim Ruby
Hi, here is what I did using sonos on the ios device. Note I am using the beta 5.2.x >From sonos main menu double click sonos Double Click settings Dluble Click on manage music library Double Click on Music library setup Double Click on more options Double Click on add new share Path edit You wou

Solution to Texting Problem with Braille Display

2014-11-27 Thread Jerry Berrier
Maybe everyone else already knew this, but I just learned that hitting the space with e command after entering the phone number in a text message will usually take you to the text area. I've tried it several times, and it seems to work, when everything else I tried did not. On this Thanksgivin

Re: Audio Demonstration: Siri versus Google Voice Search

2014-11-27 Thread Pete Nalda
My only concern, is if windows phone has a screen reader that can read books for me. If it had that, I'd might take another look. Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda MySpace.com/musikonalda Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda Twitter: @lpnalda > On Nov 27, 2

Re: Audio Demonstration: Siri versus Google Voice Search

2014-11-27 Thread Robin
In my opinion, Microsoft's Cortana, its Virtual Personal Assistant BLOWS Apple's Siri OUT of the WATER in terms of what it can do. Also, Microsoft is allowing its WP App Developers to incorporate the use of Microsoft's Cortana with the functionality of apps. I only HOPE App Developers provide m

RE: turning voice over on and off

2014-11-27 Thread Pablo Morales
In my phone now, after 8.1.1, when I press 3 times the homebutton, it opens the app switcher now, it doesn’t turn off or on VO. Before with IOs 7.1.2 did pretty well, but now No. , From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thur

RE: moderator warning - Re: starting with IOs 8.1.1

2014-11-27 Thread Pablo Morales
Hi Raul. In the rules of the list, I don't see anywhere anything saying that the messages posted to the list, should be something that is positive for apple. Are you owner of apple? No, right? Ok, so if I am in disagreement with the way how apple is handling the accessibility, something that aff

Re: gold iPhone

2014-11-27 Thread Terrie Arnold
have the gold iphone and it is only gold on the back of the phone the front is white you only see the gold where the camara Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 27, 2014, at 2:48 AM, RobH. wrote: > > Yes, we have. > Was there more to this question? > - Original Message - >

Re: Audio Demonstration: Siri versus Google Voice Search

2014-11-27 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Here in the United States there have been commercials over the last couple of months comparing Siri to the Windows phone personal assistant called Cortana. If you guys want some amusement go to YouTube and do a search for Siri Cortona commercials and you will be highly amused. One of my personal

Re: Audio Demonstration: Siri versus Google Voice Search

2014-11-27 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Personally I find that Google voice search gives answers and clear ones more quickly than Siri. > On Nov 27, 2014, at 12:23 AM, Jonathan Mosen wrote: > > Hi kerri, this demonstration examines the two voice search options as I > experience them. The question needs to be asked, if Google can l

Re: Google Play Music, Accessible?

2014-11-27 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hello. This service and this app is completely accessible to me. I used the app and voiceover does speak all of the things necessary to use the app. It used to not be this way but in the latest three or four versions it has worked fine. > On Nov 27, 2014, at 3:02 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: >

adventures with iCloud backups

2014-11-27 Thread Paul Ferrara
Happy Thanksgiving to all, I am trying to get an iCloud backup for my friend’s 4s; iCloud keeps asking me to put in his password, and it keeps saying backup is incomplete. What is going on; what settings should I look at? Thanks. Paul -- The following information is important for all members

Re: Persistent Bug with Repeated Characters in Edit Fields With External Keyboards, Or is This Just Me?

2014-11-27 Thread rhondaprincess
Sent from my iPad > On Nov 18, 2014, at 12:29 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > > Hi, all. > > This has been a problem for me intermittently since I've owned an iThingy, > but now it's the worst ever. I've updated to iOS8.1.1, and I'm basically > happy with it. But this repeated keystroke thing

Re: turning voice over on and off

2014-11-27 Thread RobH.
I still can't see the distinction; clicking the Home button 3 times is all it takes to turn voice over off/on when it is set. Since you had your phone reset, it is almost certainly not set now. But pressing and hold the Home button until you hear that double beep that Siri does, then say "tur

Google Play Music, Accessible?

2014-11-27 Thread Arnold Schmidt
One of my sighted friends with an Android phone was telling me about Google Play Music. I do not remember its being mentioned in the discussion of the music streaming services. Is it accessible?There is an app for it in the App store. Thanks in advance for any opinions. Arnold Schmidt --

Re: Audio Demonstration: Siri versus Google Voice Search

2014-11-27 Thread Arnold Schmidt
I have had Google Search on my phone for maybe a year, and find it to be a great complement to Searie. I put it onto my phone because I was, and still am, as it were, somewhat underwhelmed by Searie. My friends with Android phones seemed to be able to do very easily some things that Searie wou

Re: Turning voice over off and on

2014-11-27 Thread RobH.
The two obvious:- why not use Siri to turn voiceover back on, it works just the same. second, go to settings/general/accessibility, and go to the end of that section where there is an option to set the home key feature; can't remember how it's prased now, they changed it. Rh. - Original Me

Re: gold iPhone

2014-11-27 Thread RobH.
Yes, we have. Was there more to this question? - Original Message - From: "Zee Dee" To: Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 10:36 AM Subject: gold iPhone Hi there! Does any one have an gold iPhone? -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new

Re: Fantastical 2

2014-11-27 Thread Ioana Gandrabur
JYou can customize the widget in fantastical settings. I set it to show only events and it now works like the native widget of calendar. Hth, Ioana Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 26, 2014, at 4:35 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote: > > I'm glad the native calendar has finally improved and caught up.