Perl 5.34.1 binary kits available

2022-04-17 Thread Craig A. Berry
that with Perl 5.34.1. ________ Craig A. Berry "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Perl 5.26.2 binary kits for OpenVMS available

2018-04-15 Thread Craig A. Berry
nt-5.26:/pod/perl5261delta.pod> <https://perl5.git.perl.org/perl.git/blob/refs/heads/maint-5.26:/pod/perl5262delta.pod> [1] <http://lists.perl.org/list/vmsperl.html> Craig A. Berry "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Perl 5.24.2 binary kits for OpenVMS available

2017-07-22 Thread Craig A. Berry
.git.perl.org/perl.git/blob/HEAD:/pod/perl5242delta.pod> [1] <https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2016-1238> [2] <http://lists.perl.org/list/vmsperl.html> ____ Craig A. Berry "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: Trying to build PERL 5.22.3RC1 on OpenVMS VAX V7.3 with some issues...

2016-08-21 Thread Craig A. Berry
has been reported to do the trick. There is a patch to do that here in this ticket: <https://rt.perl.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=85932> ____ Craig A. Berry "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: Perl 5.24.0 binary kits for OpenVMS available

2016-05-17 Thread Craig A. Berry
On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Dennis Kaarsemaker wrote: > On wo, 2016-05-11 at 19:25 -0500, Craig A. Berry wrote: >> and should soon be at: >> >> <http://download.perl.space/> > > They have been available there since this morning, apologies for the > de

Perl 5.24.0 binary kits for OpenVMS available

2016-05-11 Thread Craig A. Berry
ia typing "perldoc perldelta" after installation or viewing on the web at: <http://perl5.git.perl.org/perl.git/blob/HEAD:/pod/perl5240delta.pod> [1] <http://lists.perl.org/list/vmsperl.html> ________ Craig A. Berry "... getting out of

Perl 5.22.1 binary kits for OpenVMS available

2015-12-16 Thread Craig A. Berry
erldoc perldelta" after installation. [1] <http://lists.perl.org/list/vmsperl.html> ____________ Craig A. Berry mailto:craigbe...@mac.com "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: DECC$features question

2015-11-03 Thread Craig A. Berry

Re: Excel::Writer on OpenVMS

2015-11-02 Thread Craig A. Berry

Re: Excel::Writer on OpenVMS

2015-11-02 Thread Craig A. Berry

Re: Excel::Writer on OpenVMS

2015-11-02 Thread Craig A. Berry

Re: Excel::Writer on OpenVMS

2015-10-30 Thread Craig A. Berry
> On Oct 30, 2015, at 9:43 AM, Craig A. Berry wrote: > > It still fails to clean up the temp directory and I think it’s that same > [Content_Types].xml file that is causing the problem. Don’t have a solution > for that yet. Now I do. When the File::Temp destructor tries

Re: Excel::Writer on OpenVMS

2015-10-30 Thread Craig A. Berry
> On Oct 29, 2015, at 6:44 PM, Craig A. Berry wrote: > > > I got somewhat farther by setting this: > > $ DEFINE DECC$FILENAME_UNIX_REPORT 1 > > and testing with [.examples]demo.pl, but the resulting file is corrupt. > Nothing looks greatly amiss in the VMS ve

Re: Excel::Writer on OpenVMS

2015-10-30 Thread Craig A. Berry
el Mode HackerVAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG > > I speak to machines with the voice of humanity. Craig A. Berry mailto:craigbe...@mac.com "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: Excel::Writer on OpenVMS

2015-10-30 Thread Craig A. Berry
> On Oct 29, 2015, at 2:40 PM, Craig A. Berry wrote: > > > $ perl -"I[.blib.lib]" examples/array_formula.pl > (in cleanup) Couldn't create sub directory > mda0:[craig.scratch.QHki3CLXLC]/xl: no such file or directory at > blib/lib/Excel/Writer/XLSX/

Re: Excel::Writer on OpenVMS

2015-10-30 Thread Craig A. Berry
> On Oct 29, 2015, at 2:58 PM, Craig A. Berry wrote: > Now it runs but creates empty files. I’ll have to look into that sometime > but have to get back to real work at the moment. Oh, for goodness sake, when are these messages ever going to make it through moderation and show up on

VMS::Lock 1.03 available

2015-07-04 Thread Craig A. Berry
I’ve at long last obtained co-maintainership of Brad Hughes’s VMS::Lock module and fixed the longstanding namespace pollution bug and a couple of other nits. Available at: <http://search.cpan.org/~cberry/VMS-Lock-1_03/> ____ Craig A. Berry mailto:c

Re: perl for VMS 7.3-2 on VAX (or rather the SIMH)

2015-07-03 Thread Craig A. Berry
Perl for VAX at <http://www.sidhe.org/vmsperl/prebuilt.html>. If you want to run more current software, my advice is to get away from VAX and run an Alpha emulator. There are free ones but no complete open source ones that I’m aware of. ________ Craig A.

Perl 5.22.0 binary kits for OpenVMS available

2015-06-04 Thread Craig A. Berry
erl.org/list/vmsperl.html> ________ Craig A. Berry mailto:craigbe...@mac.com "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: Error Building OpenVMS perl 5.20.2

2015-06-02 Thread Craig A. Berry
On Jun 02, 2015, at 11:39 AM, Eric Robertson wrote: I am currently attempting to build the perl 5.20.2 release on OpenVMS Alpha V8.3 and I get an error part way through the build. 5.22.0 was released yesterday, so I'd recommend starting there. I hope to get kits out soonish but I gather

contact info for Brad Hughes?

2014-10-30 Thread Craig A. Berry
be reached? ________ Craig A. Berry mailto:craigbe...@mac.com "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Perl 5.20.1 binary kits for OpenVMS available

2014-10-14 Thread Craig A. Berry
g related to these kits that turns out to be more fun than you can handle is probably best reported on the vmsperl mailing list.[1] Changes in this release can be found via typing "perldoc perldelta" after installation. [1] <http://lists.perl.org/list/vmsperl.html> _____

Re: Q: Can anyone explain this curious behaviour.

2014-08-06 Thread Craig A. Berry
e anything to add. ________ Craig A. Berry mailto:craigbe...@mac.com "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: PERL_VMS_POSIX_EXIT (Re: Q: Can anyone explain this cursious behaviour.)

2014-07-23 Thread Craig A. Berry
On Jul 22, 2014, at 10:18 PM, John E. Malmberg wrote: > On 7/22/2014 7:13 AM, Craig A. Berry wrote: >> >> On Jul 21, 2014, at 7:41 PM, John E. Malmberg wrote: >> >>> On 7/21/2014 7:06 PM, Craig A. Berry wrote: >>>> >>>> DECC$FILENAME_U

Re: PERL_VMS_POSIX_EXIT (Re: Q: Can anyone explain this cursious behaviour.)

2014-07-22 Thread Craig A. Berry
On Jul 21, 2014, at 7:41 PM, John E. Malmberg wrote: > On 7/21/2014 7:06 PM, Craig A. Berry wrote: >> >> DECC$FILENAME_UNIX_REPORT has nothing at all to do with exit statuses. Well, I wouldn't think it did, but for some reason the two are wired together: s = decc$fea

PERL_VMS_POSIX_EXIT (Re: Q: Can anyone explain this cursious behaviour.)

2014-07-21 Thread Craig A. Berry
shifting, but I'm late for dinner and have no time to debug it at the moment. Craig A. Berry mailto:craigbe...@mac.com "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: Q: Can anyone explain this cursious behaviour.

2014-07-21 Thread Craig A. Berry
e circumstances cannot produce a predictable exit status on any operating system (as indicated in the docs I quoted previously). In the specific case of an %ENV lookup, it's actually more predictable on VMS than it's supposed to be. > Whether DCL should inhibit the message or not is most probably a > different question. use vmsish 'hushed'; at the top of your code will inhibit the message if you wish. > > Anyway I'm off on vacation for the next 2 weeks, so don't expect any > quick responses. > > John > Craig A. Berry mailto:craigbe...@mac.com "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

PCSI and versions (Re: Q: Can anyone explain this curious behaviour.)

2014-07-18 Thread Craig A. Berry
ERL518," "PERL520," etc. This is what HP has done with Java, where you have "JAVA150" and "JAVA60." I guess the earliest that could happen now would be for 5.22 next March. Of course there is no requirement to use the PCSI kits. People can build from

NOLOGNAM and die (Re: Q: Can anyone explain this curious behaviour.)

2014-07-18 Thread Craig A. Berry
seems to me clearer to code exactly what you want rather than rely on the behavior of die, which really isn't what you want: === use constant SS_INSFARG => 276; print $ENV{X}, "\n"; my $whatever = shift @ARGV; exit SS_INSFARG unless $whatever; exit 0;

Perl 5.20.0 binary kits for OpenVMS available

2014-06-01 Thread Craig A. Berry
y best reported on the vmsperl mailing list.[1] Changes in this release can be found via typing "perldoc perldelta" after installation. [1] <http://lists.perl.org/list/vmsperl.html> ____________ Craig A. Berry mailto:craigbe...@mac.com "... getting o

Re: rmdir('/unix_path/to/dir') not working with 5.18.1?

2014-03-08 Thread Craig A. Berry
On Mar 7, 2014, at 6:49 PM, John E. Malmberg wrote: > On 3/7/2014 8:18 AM, Craig A. Berry wrote: >> >> On Feb 26, 2014, at 11:35 PM, John E. Malmberg >> wrote: >> >>> On 2/25/2014 7:02 PM, Craig A. Berry wrote: >>>> >>>>

opendir on search list (Re: rmdir('/unix_path/to/dir') not working with 5.18.1?)

2014-03-07 Thread Craig A. Berry
be more complex. I have not been able to reproduce this. If you post a reproducer I'll look into it. ____________ Craig A. Berry mailto:craigbe...@mac.com "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: rmdir('/unix_path/to/dir') not working with 5.18.1?

2014-03-07 Thread Craig A. Berry
On Feb 26, 2014, at 11:35 PM, John E. Malmberg wrote: > On 2/25/2014 7:02 PM, Craig A. Berry wrote: >> >> On Feb 24, 2014, at 11:33 PM, John E. Malmberg >> wrote: > >>> I can not seem to do a rmdir() of an absolute or relative Unix >>> path wit

Re: rmdir('/unix_path/to/dir') not working with 5.18.1?

2014-02-25 Thread Craig A. Berry
.perl-5_18.]" > > > I also noticed that opendir('/search_list/directory') fails when 'directory' > is only in the first member of the search list. I am not sure what the issue > there is. I think the solution for that will be more complex. Not sure what

Perl 5.18.2 binary kits for OpenVMS available

2014-01-08 Thread Craig A. Berry
t perl start-up was broken in Perl 5.16.0 but has now been fixed. [1] <http://lists.perl.org/list/vmsperl.html> ____________ Craig A. Berry mailto:craigbe...@mac.com "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: utils/perldoc.Com vs utils/perldoc

2013-09-21 Thread Craig A. Berry
rest in) pursuing this further, but most likely replacing the line in Perldoc.pm that looks like: (?: \. (?: bat | exe | com ) )?# possible extension with (?: \. (?: bat | exe | com | com;\d+ ) )?# possible extension would do the trick. And version numbers on .exe files are also possible of course. So folks interested in this bug might want to report/fix it at <https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Dist/Display.html?Name=Pod-Perldoc>. Craig A. Berry mailto:craigbe...@mac.com "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: utils/perldoc.Com vs utils/perldoc

2013-09-21 Thread Craig A. Berry
On Sep 21, 2013, at 11:02 AM, John E. Malmberg wrote: > On 9/20/2013 8:05 PM, Craig A. Berry wrote: >> > >> On Sep 20, 2013, at 6:01 PM, John E. Malmberg > wrote: >> >>> After all, if you are going to always use Perl to invoke it, why >>> ad

Re: utils/perldoc.Com vs utils/perldoc

2013-09-20 Thread Craig A. Berry
as close to having a shebang line as you're going to get on VMS. > And even more curious, why add a hack to make look like it should work as a > command file with out actually making it work? Seems to be working just fine and as designed. __________

Re: utils/perldoc.Com vs utils/perldoc

2013-09-20 Thread Craig A. Berry
On Sep 20, 2013, at 9:03 AM, Nicholas Clark wrote: > On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 10:29:37PM -0500, Craig A. Berry wrote: >> >> On Sep 19, 2013, at 1:36 PM, Nicholas Clark wrote: >> >>> So, my question is, surely that file should be installed as >>>

Re: utils/perldoc.Com vs utils/perldoc

2013-09-19 Thread Craig A. Berry
unless you happen to put perl_root:[utils] into DCL$PATH. The reason you had it still looking for perldoc.com even after you deleted that file is because there is a foreign command for perldoc defined in perl_setup.com (more or less like an alias as John said). _

Re: Perl 5.18.1 binary kits for OpenVMS available

2013-09-15 Thread Craig A. Berry
On Sep 15, 2013, at 7:26 PM, John E. Malmberg wrote: > On 9/1/2013 3:55 PM, Craig A. Berry wrote: >> Installation kits for OpenVMS Alpha and OpenVMS I64 v8.3 and later are >> available at: >> >> <https://sourceforge.net/projects/vmsperlkit/files/> > >

Perl 5.18.1 binary kits for OpenVMS available

2013-09-01 Thread Craig A. Berry
y best reported on the vmsperl mailing list.[1] [1] <http://lists.perl.org/list/vmsperl.html> ________ Craig A. Berry mailto:craigbe...@mac.com "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leith

Re: Any news on porting PDL to OpenVMS?

2013-08-28 Thread Craig A. Berry
a challenge. ________ Craig A. Berry mailto:craigbe...@mac.com "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: test PCSI kits for Perl 5.18.0

2013-08-22 Thread Craig A. Berry
until a subsequent release. On May 31, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Craig A. Berry wrote: > Test installers for Perl 5.18.0 for OpenVMS 8.3 and later (Alpha or Itanium) > are available at: > > https://sourceforge.net/projects/vmsperlkit/files/ > > N.B. SourceForge disallows dollar sign

Re: regression test filesystem assumptions

2013-08-07 Thread Craig A. Berry
mewhat old at the time. I explicitly removed support for pre-7.0 VMS systems in Perl 5.16.x, so the /dev/null workaround seems safe to remove. I think I disagree about whether these belonged in the test runner; that actually was the general place to solve a general problem, even if there weren't other extant tests that exercised the problem. But those problems don't seem to be there now, so thanks for cleaning up after us. Craig A. Berry mailto:craigbe...@mac.com "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: test.pl runperl() exit oddity

2013-08-07 Thread Craig A. Berry
On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Nicholas Clark wrote: > 2) Why does runperl() in t/test.pl abort on VMS if exit status is wrong? >(or is it vmspipe.com aborting?) When you run vms/test.com, it's running t/TEST by default. Isn't bailing out early the normal behavior for TEST (as opposed to h

Re: test.pl runperl() exit oddity

2013-08-07 Thread Craig A. Berry
On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Nicholas Clark wrote: > In trying to fix this, I think I might have also fixed 3 problems with > different recently failing tests on VMS. But I don't understand why. > I have questions at the end, but the story in the middle is probably > necessary. > > > On Wed,

test PCSI kits for Perl 5.18.0

2013-05-31 Thread Craig A. Berry
there or something). That should keep folks from stomping on each others' alternate installations. ________ Craig A. Berry mailto:craigbe...@mac.com "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: perl 5.18.0 RC1

2013-05-14 Thread Craig A. Berry
ctively a system account even though it's not *the* SYSTEM account). Try deassigning DCL$PATH or running from a different account. ________ Craig A. Berry mailto:craigbe...@mac.com "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in.&quo

Re: perl 5.18.0 RC1

2013-05-12 Thread Craig A. Berry
FAILED at test 22 Failed 16 tests out of 2171, 99.26% okay. which is quite a bit better than yours, but a few more than I expected, mainly because Pod::Html has not been failing recently. I have no explanation for why it's so different from yours. There must be some differences

Re: Bizarre copy of unknown

2013-01-10 Thread Craig A. Berry
for distracting you from other things. Glad I could help. And VMS::CMS looks like a nifty module :-). ________ Craig A. Berry mailto:craigbe...@mac.com "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: Bizarre copy of unknown

2013-01-09 Thread Craig A. Berry
7;/Include=[]/Standard=Relaxed_ANSI/Prefix=All/Obj=.obj /NOANSI_ALIAS/float=ieee/ieee=denorm/NAMES=(SHORTENED)/Define=_USE_STD_STAT=1'; Craig A. Berry mailto:craigbe...@mac.com "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: Bizarre copy of unknown

2013-01-08 Thread Craig A. Berry
SV *) &PL_sv_undef; but I don't know if that would help with the immediate problem. I haven't had time to download your module and try it. Is the one on CPAN the latest? Craig A. Berry mailto:craigbe...@mac.com "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: VMS::Time module

2013-01-02 Thread Craig A. Berry
> to the zip file. Is DECC$EFS_CASE_PRESERVE defined at the point where you say "mmk zipdist"? ____________ Craig A. Berry mailto:craigbe...@mac.com "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: VMS::Time module

2013-01-01 Thread Craig A. Berry
sions of Info-Zip preserve case just fine. ________ Craig A. Berry mailto:craigbe...@mac.com "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: 5.16.2 build

2013-01-01 Thread Craig A. Berry
s/\.[^.]*$//; # Trim off file type s[\$\(\w+_EXT\)][]; # even as a macro s/.*[:>\/\]]//; # Trim off dir spec -$_ = uc if $upcase; }; my(@lines); Craig A. Berry mailto:craigbe...@mac.com "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: VMS::Time module

2012-12-29 Thread Craig A. Berry
timestamps, hopefully with the least loss of > precision. A very long time ago Dan Sugalski posted an example of converting VMS quadword dates into Unix seconds since the epoch: <http://www.xray.mpe.mpg.de/mailing-lists/vmsperl/1998-11/msg00063.html> That gives you the seconds in a a double, which i

Re: perl 5.16.2 build problems

2012-12-24 Thread Craig A. Berry
ne thing to focus on if any of these test failures is a concern. ________ Craig A. Berry mailto:craigbe...@mac.com "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: perl 5.16.2 build problems

2012-12-23 Thread Craig A. Berry
target before reconfiguring, which will removing any existing config.sh files. ________ Craig A. Berry mailto:craigbe...@mac.com "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: perl 5.16.2 build problems

2012-12-23 Thread Craig A. Berry
long time. It looks like the following line in the linker option file generator will need to fiddle with case when that option is selected: $ search [.vms]gen_shrfls.pl globals my $incstr = 'PERL,GLOBALS'; ________ Craig A. Berry mailto:craigbe...@mac.com

Re: perl 5.16.2 build problems

2012-12-22 Thread Craig A. Berry
u configure with -"Dusethreads". My link looked like: $ sea sys$login:build_5_16_2.log "exe=perl" Link /NoTrace/NoMap/Exe=PERL.EXE perlmain.obj, perlshr.opt/Option, perlshr_attr.opt/Option ,[]crtl.opt/Options Craig A. Berry mailto:craigbe...@mac.com "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

ptrmismatch problems (Re: perl 5.16.2 build problems)

2012-12-22 Thread Craig A. Berry
e checked into the repository by the end of the weekend. Merry Christmas, Tom, and thanks for the report. [1] <http://perl5.git.perl.org/perl.git/commit/fafa4fee6354847ae7fda9f99e5af467d9626f73?f=vms/subconfigure.com> Craig A. Berry mailto:craigbe...@mac.com "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

MMK "did not update" message (Re: perl 5.16.2 build problems)

2012-12-22 Thread Craig A. Berry
On Dec 22, 2012, at 8:50 AM, "John E. Malmberg" wrote: > On 12/22/2012 8:07 AM, Craig A. Berry wrote: > >>> >>> MCR SYS$DISK:[]generate_uudmap.exe uudmap.h bitcount.h mg_data.h >>> Action did not update target BITCOUNT.H >>> Action did

Re: perl 5.16.2 build problems

2012-12-22 Thread Craig A. Berry
_EXP) +#if ((defined(VMS) && !defined(_IEEE_FP)) || defined(_UNICOS)) && defined(NV_MAX_10_EXP) STMT_START { const NV exp_v = log10(value); if (exponent >= NV_MAX_10_EXP || exponent + exp_v >= NV_MAX_10_EXP) Craig

Re: perl 5.16.2 build problems

2012-12-22 Thread Craig A. Berry
E_STD_STAT=1) PP_PACK.C > > cdouble = Perl_modf(cdouble / anv, &trouble) * anv; > ..^ > %CC-W-PTRMISMATCH, In this statement, the referenced type of the pointer > value "&trouble" is "double", which is not compatibl

Re: perl on vms website

2012-12-21 Thread Craig A. Berry
e many combinations of compiler version, VMS version, ECO level, Perl version, configuration options, etc., so folks should feel free to share their experiences. I know I'm curious what people are running. Craig A. Berry mailto:craigbe...@mac.com "...

Re: perl on vms website

2012-12-21 Thread Craig A. Berry
;d be willing to ask if we could get vmsperl.perl.org or perl.org/vmsperl and just use their stylesheets and so on. Craig A. Berry mailto:craigbe...@mac.com "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: BASH 4.2.39 available for OpenVMS.

2012-12-17 Thread Craig A. Berry
oid maintaining the 7000+ lines of configure.com and just use the Configure shell script, it's a long ways from happening and might not be the best way to spend scarce resources. ________ Craig A. Berry mailto:craigbe...@mac.com "... getting out of a so

Re: Current version of Perl for OpenVMS ?

2012-11-07 Thread Craig A. Berry
DL from one of the freeware distributions. Or just use an older version of MMK, such as <http://vms.process.com/scripts/fileserv/fileserv.com?MMK>. Craig A. Berry mailto:craigbe...@mac.com "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

building modules that use Module::Install

2012-10-26 Thread Craig A. Berry
h I submitted upstream, except it's against the local copy of Module::Install in [.inc] instead of the one [.lib]. Happy module building. ________ Craig A. Berry mailto:craigbe...@mac.com "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than gett

Re: Parrot on VMS

2012-10-25 Thread Craig A. Berry
n is a big fan of VAXen, I will keep compatability towards > OpenVMS VAX 7.2 in mind > (as that's what his main machine FAFNER.dyndns.org is running under). Can Parrot really function without IEEE floating point and 64-bit integers? Craig A

Re: print statement froces new line at 132 chars?

2012-07-08 Thread Craig A. Berry
ML '<',$x,'>',$y,'',"\n"; So something is different about your environment or what you're doing. Are you sure there are no embedded newlines in $y? Craig A. Berry mailto:craigbe...@mac.com "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: print statement froces new line at 132 chars?

2012-07-08 Thread Craig A. Berry
."\n"; with dots instead of commas? This will concatenate them all into a string and do a single I/O, as opposed to a separate I/O for each item in the list. Craig A. Berry mailto:craigbe...@mac.com "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: scp to VMS (Re: mms case sensitivity build failures (was Re: HP hobbyist license))

2012-05-23 Thread Craig A. Berry
he file transfer protocol instead of rcp as the file transfer protocol like plain old scp does. _______ Craig A. Berry mailto:craigbe...@mac.com "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: RC2 on the HP Opensource cluser

2012-05-19 Thread Craig A. Berry
the path it's in or something like that, though I haven't felt motivated to look into the bowels of Pod::Html again. Craig A. Berry mailto:craigbe...@mac.com "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

names case-preserved and shortened (Re: mms case sensitivity build failures (was Re: HP hobbyist license))

2012-05-17 Thread Craig A. Berry
process could break it, plus it would have to be done differently based on different configuration options. ISTR that building Perl with -"Dusecasesensitive" ran into some problem with object libraries. I would rather take another crack at resolving that and have that be the supported way to

Re: scp to VMS (Re: mms case sensitivity build failures (was Re: HP hobbyist license))

2012-05-17 Thread Craig A. Berry
ml>. If someone finds an open source scp2 client, please holler. ________ Craig A. Berry mailto:craigbe...@mac.com "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: mms case sensitivity build failures (was Re: HP hobbyist license)

2012-05-17 Thread Craig A. Berry
robably right about its being an MMS bug. I've long intended to have another crack at working around it, but obviously haven't gotten it done yet. >> I'm going to punt on the MMS issues for the moment. The short answer is you >> cannot build Perl with MMS currently but must use MMK, available here: >> <http://www.kednos.com/kednos/Open_Source/MMK>. > > In which case, README.vms needs some updating :-) I would rather get it working than document that it doesn't work, but yes, it would've saved you some time if the documentation reflected the reality. ___ Craig A. Berry mailto:craigbe...@mac.com "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

scp to VMS (Re: mms case sensitivity build failures (was Re: HP hobbyist license))

2012-05-16 Thread Craig A. Berry
something about not talking SSH 1.0, only 2.0, but in fact it is its own fault for failing to recognize the 2.0 handshake sent by the client. If someone has a contrary example of using a modern scp client to talk to the TCP/IP Services server, I'd love to know how to make it work. ____

Re: mms case sensitivity build failures (was HP hobbyist license)

2012-05-16 Thread Craig A. Berry
with lots of snipsOn May 16, 2012, at 11:43 AM, Nicholas Clark wrote:Doing *this* gets me a lot further: MMK := mcr PTAC$DKA0:[NCLARK.bin]mmk However, the build fails at a subdirectory of Encode: Same failure. The logical "mmk" is getting forgotten by the time the outer Descrip.MMS is attempting

Re: mms case sensitivity build failures (was HP hobbyist license)

2012-05-16 Thread Craig A. Berry
On May 16, 2012, at 06:34 AM, Nicholas Clark wrote: So, general questions 1: Is there any easy way to get an scp2 client for Unix, so that I can scp to them? (And use editors remotely) I've never gottten scp to work and always use sftp.  There should be a vim available; how well it works I don't

Re: HP hobbyist license

2012-05-15 Thread Craig A. Berry
can to raise awareness, or raise a stink, or whatever seems to need raising to get things done. Craig A. Berry mailto:craigbe...@mac.com "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: HP hobbyist license

2012-05-15 Thread Craig A. Berry
On May 15, 2012, at 07:24 AM, Nicholas Clark wrote:I would find it really useful to have ssh access to a VMS system for testing perl.  Thanks for making the effort.It's unclear to me whether what I'm doing would be hobbyist, given that I'm being paid.  It's a good question but I don't know the ans

Re: C++, XS, and dNOOP, or Doing Nothing is Hard Work

2012-05-05 Thread Craig A. Berry
On May 5, 2012, at 2:56 PM, Leon Timmermans wrote: > On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Craig A. Berry wrote: >> Thanks for the suggestion. That might work, but might also fall afoul of >> the naked semicolon problem noted in the comment in perl.h: >> >> #d

Re: C++, XS, and dNOOP, or Doing Nothing is Hard Work

2012-05-05 Thread Craig A. Berry
OP, i.e., why we can't just do: #define dNOOP (void)0 or perhaps: #ifdef __cplusplus #define dNOOP (void)0 #else #define dNOOP extern int Perl___notused(void) #endif Craig A. Berry mailto:craigbe...@mac.com "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: C++, XS, and dNOOP, or Doing Nothing is Hard Work

2012-05-04 Thread Craig A. Berry
enough to link, I wonder what will happen, i.e, whether I'll get an undefined symbol for Perl___notused. ________ Craig A. Berry mailto:craigbe...@mac.com "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Re: C++, XS, and dNOOP, or Doing Nothing is Hard Work

2012-05-04 Thread Craig A. Berry
On May 4, 2012, at 11:57 AM, Craig A. Berry wrote: > I've been taking a swing at compiling Perl with the HP C++ compiler for > OpenVMS.[1] There are a number of wrinkles to iron out, one of which boils > down to: > > $ type try.c > #define dNOOP extern int Perl___

C++, XS, and dNOOP, or Doing Nothing is Hard Work

2012-05-04 Thread Craig A. Berry
out what to do. Any suggestions? [1] Getting the build to work with C++ has been on the to-do list for over a decade. One of the developments in that time period is that on Itanium, the backend for the C++ compiler is some gadget from Intel that is unrelated to and purportedly genera

Re: what was VMS do here? (was [perl #79960] Setting $/ to read fixed records can corrupt valid UTF-8 input)

2012-03-03 Thread Craig A. Berry
On Mar 3, 2012, at 1:29 AM, Eric Brine wrote: > On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Eric Brine wrote: > On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 9:11 AM, Craig A. Berry wrote: > I was thinking of a situation where something external to Perl limits how > much data you can get in one read and thus gi

Re: what was VMS do here? (was [perl #79960] Setting $/ to read fixed records can corrupt valid UTF-8 input)

2012-03-02 Thread Craig A. Berry
On Mar 2, 2012, at 11:10 AM, Craig A. Berry wrote: > > On Mar 2, 2012, at 9:15 AM, Nicholas Clark wrote: > >> On Thu, Mar 01, 2012 at 05:17:27PM -0600, Craig A. Berry wrote: >>> >>> On Mar 1, 2012, at 12:30 PM, Nicholas Clark wrote: >>>> >>&

Re: what was VMS do here? (was [perl #79960] Setting $/ to read fixed records can corrupt valid UTF-8 input)

2012-03-02 Thread Craig A. Berry
On Mar 2, 2012, at 9:15 AM, Nicholas Clark wrote: > On Thu, Mar 01, 2012 at 05:17:27PM -0600, Craig A. Berry wrote: >> >> On Mar 1, 2012, at 12:30 PM, Nicholas Clark wrote: >>> >>> Specifically, the code is emulated on "everything else", but intended

Re: what was VMS do here? (was [perl #79960] Setting $/ to read fixed records can corrupt valid UTF-8 input)

2012-03-02 Thread Craig A. Berry
done on characters. Not really relevant to the discussion of $/ and UTF-8, but to be pedantically correct, relative access to files with fixed-length records is only one of several random access methods available on VMS. The others don't require the records to be fixed length. ___

Re: what was VMS do here? (was [perl #79960] Setting $/ to read fixed records can corrupt valid UTF-8 input)

2012-03-02 Thread Craig A. Berry
On Mar 2, 2012, at 3:07 AM, Eric Brine wrote: > On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Craig A. Berry wrote: > What happens on Unix when you have a pipe buffer that is 8192 bytes and you > set $/ to 8193 and read a record containing UTF-8 data through the pipe? > > Perl requests

Re: what was VMS do here? (was [perl #79960] Setting $/ to read fixed records can corrupt valid UTF-8 input)

2012-03-01 Thread Craig A. Berry
hing to do on VMS, I can't think of any way that this is substantively different from what would happen on any OS when reading through a pipe or a socket or a PerlIO layer or /dev/mumble that has a fixed-sized buffer measured in bytes. What happens on Unix when you have a pipe bu

Re: test generate IVVERB on 5-14.1

2011-09-10 Thread Craig A. Berry
gt; \"castor$dka0:[sys_utility.perl5141]perl.exe;1"\ > t/basic.t .. ok > t/self.t ... ok > All tests successful. > Files=2, Tests=3, 6 wallclock secs ( 1.80 usr + 0.00 sys = 1.80 CPU) > Result: PASS Right. I commented on this at then end of our last exchange: htt

Re: Perl 5.14.1 on VMS 8.3 Multinet 5.3 C V7.3-009 failed 10 tests of 1904

2011-08-18 Thread Craig A. Berry
cks implementation should be modified to parse quotes off the first parameter and replaces spaces with %^_. So "/sys$common/my programs here/foo.exe" becomes sys$common:[my^_programs^_here]foo.exe Someone stop me if this is not a good idea. > VMS::Device works as expected. >

Re: RFC: UTF-8 perl (not Perl) source code

2011-08-08 Thread Craig A. Berry
the source code. As far as what git does, I think it simply averts its eyes from all questions of encoding and stores bytes. Craig A. Berry mailto:craigbe...@mac.com "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

Fwd: Perl 5 maint funding drive

2011-06-28 Thread Craig A. Berry
Hello VMS Perl Folk, If you or your company uses Perl, please have a look at the message below and see about supporting its continued development. Both Nicholas and Dave are Perl internals wizards of the highest order, so we'd be lucky to have them paying even more attention to the care and feedi

Re: DBI test failure (Re: Building VMS Perl (5-12.3) Cannot find Extutils-Command)

2011-05-26 Thread Craig A. Berry
dbm_file.t (Wstat: 1024 Tests: 15 Failed: 1) > Failed test: > 7 > Non-zero exit status: 4 > Files=178, Tests=6597, 352 wallclock secs ( 6.29 usr + 0.00 sys = 6.29 CPU) > Result: FAIL > Failed 4/178 test programs. 4/6597 subtests failed. > %

Re: DBI test failure (Re: Building VMS Perl (5-12.3) Cannot find Extutils-Command)

2011-05-26 Thread Craig A. Berry
t aware of that. > What should they be define to? > You shouldn't need one. I just asked in case that was what was tangling things up. Craig A. Berry mailto:craigbe...@mac.com "... getting out of a sonnet is much more difficult than getting in." Brad Leithauser

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