Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
I think the intended reference may have been to Zeta Reticuli. At 09:55 PM 12/26/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote: My goodness, you have no idea how close to the truth you are with this joke. Yes, residents of Eta Reticuli. Except that they are not aliens from another world as in ET - biological

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
to get us riled up. Now he's off onto the Illuminati, [Z]eta Reticuli, and what else? - Original Message - From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 5:51 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives

Re: [Vo]:Birther Myth? or Lomax lies

2012-12-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
to block access to vault records, i.e., the Hawaiian vault copy of the original long form certificate. [...] At 02:24 PM 12/26/2012, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: At 01:07 AM 12/26/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote: Funny thing is, the new governor of Hawaii Ambercrombie - a democrat, strong supporter

Re: [Vo]:[OT]:Question About Event Horizon

2012-12-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 12:58 AM 12/27/2012, David Roberson wrote: TIf a photon left the surface of the black hole and headed outward in a vector along the radius what would happen to it? Could the energy rapidly be drained as it headed outward until there is nothing left? What would happen to the energy once

Re: [Vo]:[OT]:Question About Event Horizon

2012-12-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 01:29 AM 12/27/2012, David Roberson wrote: You are asking very good questions. I have given this a little thought over the years and there are certain things that seem likely to happen. It has been proven that a gravity field causes time to dilate. A very large field will cause it to

Re: [Vo]:[OT]:Question About Event Horizon

2012-12-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 01:47 AM 12/27/2012, David Roberson wrote: I am thinking along the line of the second concept that you list at the end. The photon would cease to exist at any energy if allowed to continue by itself from the spaceship that is infinitesimally close to the boundary. So, instead, the second

Re: [Vo]:[OT]:Question About Event Horizon

2012-12-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 02:09 AM 12/27/2012, David Roberson wrote: Abd, it is all in the perception of the various observers. Each one does not detect anything special about their own situation. We, as the far off guys, see the fellow on the ship being affected by the gravitational field he is within. That

Re: [Vo]:[OT]:Question About Event Horizon

2012-12-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 02:38 AM 12/27/2012, David Roberson wrote: OK, I guess that I am modifying my beliefs as we consider the implications of this system. I think you are correct in the assumption that the mass of the ship does not reach infinity at the horizon. If we assume that no energy is created out of

RE: [Vo]:Digital information storage in DNA

2012-12-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 11:31 AM 12/27/2012, Jones Beene wrote: Actually there are themes in SciFi which have explored a similar possibility- that there are messages awaiting us in DNA. Aw, that's a primitive idea compared to the idea in Contact, that there are messages encoded in the digits of pi. However,

Re: [Vo]:Digital information storage in DNA

2012-12-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:05 AM 12/27/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote:  Your opinion has certainly been noted by Bill. Quite obviously, I'm still here cause Bill saw nothing that I have done to deserve banning. Well, we don't know that. Bill sometimes pays little or no attention to this list for a time. I would

Re: [Vo]:Digital information storage in DNA

2012-12-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
that I'd mislead. No biggie. - Original Message - From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 1:20 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Digital information storage in DNA Natural Selection can not explain how random

Re: [Vo]:Digital information storage in DNA

2012-12-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 08:26 PM 12/27/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote: Well, Jed's story says that we can store exabytes of data. Yes, but only if we don't mind that it's exabytes of copies of about 1.5 gigabytes of data. Nowadays, we only use the coding part of DNA to figure out the amount of information.

Re: [Vo]:[OT]:Question About Event Horizon

2012-12-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
to the main topic very soon. I have enjoyed our thought processes and it is relaxing after I finally competed a good model for the MFMP cell behavior. It is an exercise in thinking, and in recognizing our limits. Dave -Original Message- From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax

Re: [Vo]:Digital information storage in DNA

2012-12-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 08:38 PM 12/27/2012, David Roberson wrote: It is funny when I hear of junk DNA as described by the genetics experts. Why choose to call something unknown as junk instead of just admitting that it is not understood? Reminds me of the old theory about the amount of one's brain that is being

Re: [Vo]:Digital information storage in DNA

2012-12-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 10:05 PM 12/27/2012, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: The Encyclopedia of DNA Elements (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ENCODEENCODE) projecthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noncoding_DNA#cite_note-Nature489p57-1[1] reported in September 2012 that over 80% of DNA in the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki

Re: [Vo]:[OT]Birther Myth? or Lomax lies

2012-12-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
absolutely nothing to do with anyone's Birth Certificate, not his, not Bush's, not Clintons, etc. no more original content below. The Executive Order is there, though. Jojo - Original Message - From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; vortex-l@eskimo.com

Re: [Vo]:Digital information storage in DNA

2012-12-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 09:18 PM 12/27/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote: David, The different physical characteristics of individuals within a species is the result of microevolution. Microevolution is different from Darwinian Evolution. Sure. However, the difference is not a sharp dividing line. Populations diverge

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 10:01 PM 12/27/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote: What are you suggesting lomax? That age is uncertain whether she was 9 or 10. Either way, what muhammed practiced was abhorrent and retrograde. No, *Jojo* is abhorrent and retrograde. That's because he's now. What Muhammad did wasn't abhorrent,

Re: [Vo]:[OT]:Question About Event Horizon

2012-12-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 10:16 PM 12/27/2012, David Roberson wrote: That energy leaving the massive star becomes trapped within the space surrounding it to a significant degree; how is this possible unless space itself has expanded to accommodate it? No, the energy is not trapped. Light continues to travel at the

Re: [Vo]:Digital information storage in DNA

2012-12-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 10:22 PM 12/27/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote: I'm pretty sure you wrote a lot worth responding to, to correct it, but I did not read your tiresome lengthy essays. Please learn to split you arguement into smaller readable segments. It is a major discourtesy to quote, in its entirety, a long post,

Re: [Vo]:Digital information storage in DNA

2012-12-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 11:18 PM 12/27/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote: Read Darwin's The origin of Species first before you mouth off with these ignorant rantings. Why should I read it? This is typical of you, you claim expertise I have not claimed expertise on this or any other topic. Sometimes I have unusual

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age--for the education of Jojo

2012-12-26 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 07:34 PM 12/25/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote: Once again, Lomax diverts the issue and attempts to spin it away. The issue is not A'isha actual age, it is irrelevant what her actual age was. She could have been 5 years older and what muhammed did would still be an abhorrent sex perverted act.

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-26 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
records because of an executive order. I will follow up. Jojo (I am now removing copies of prior posts in the thread, per list rules. Jojo was respondng to the following post.) - Original Message - From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-26 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
is interested in *insult* and *winning.* At 02:24 PM 12/26/2012, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: At 01:07 AM 12/26/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote: Funny thing is, the new governor of Hawaii Ambercrombie - a democrat, strong supporter of Obama, wanted to silence the birther movement once and for all. So, he

Re: [Vo]:[OT] jojo's knowledge -- was Lomax Question

2012-12-26 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 11:40 AM 12/26/2012, de Bivort Lawrence wrote: [...] On Dec 24, 2012, at 7:36 PM, Jojo Jaro wrote: Quite honestly, this is the first time I've heard of FGM. After my first google, I found out what it was and was taken aback by the practice. This sort of retrograde practice of course is

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-26 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 11:54 AM 12/26/2012, de Bivort Lawrence wrote: illimiati? On Dec 26, 2012, at 1:07 AM, Jojo Jaro wrote: And Lomax's is really naive to think that only Republicans are concerned with this issue. Over 60% of Americans feel Obama should come clean on this issue. But of course, the

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-26 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 12:30 PM 12/26/2012, Eric Walker wrote: On Dec 25, 2012, at 21:41, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: However, there is a difference here. I'm the only Muslim on this list, as far as I know. Bingo. As members of modern, pluralistic societies, we shouldn't allow hate

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-26 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
that he was lying, was he lying, or was he so engaged in his anger and attack that he wasn't aware of what was in front of him? Jojo - Original Message - From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 1

Re: [Vo]:[OT]:Question About Event Horizon

2012-12-26 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 06:16 PM 12/26/2012, David Roberson wrote: I am hoping to establish that there exists a boundary from which an object becomes invisible to us once it is crossed. There must. An event horizon is a boundary in spacetime beyond which events cannot affect an outside observer. (WP). The

Re: [Vo]:Electronics Project on promotion this week

2012-12-26 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 03:47 PM 12/26/2012, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: Wrong! Why on Earth does it need to relate to current discussions at all? Haven't these people ever heard of a new topic of discussion? No. Your point? Okay, okay. Perhaps they have a journal about a topic, and topic is a field, and a field

Re: [Vo]:[OT]:Question About Event Horizon

2012-12-26 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
Let's get down to the nitty gritty here. At 12:20 PM 12/26/2012, David Roberson wrote: Is the event horizon of a black hole considered an observer relative location? We, who are at a very large distance relative to a black hole see the event horizon as located a finite distance from the

RE: [Vo]:there is something funny go one out there

2012-12-26 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 05:28 PM 12/26/2012, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: Interesting read, Abd. Thanks! As always, you are meticulous in your personal analysis - relentlessly and obsessively so! I suspect it's one of your endearing traits that terrified Mr. Krivit so much. I don't think he knows

Re: [Vo]:[OT]:Question About Event Horizon

2012-12-26 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 05:55 PM 12/26/2012, David Roberson wrote: That makes it a bit more complicated. I was referring to the exact radius at which light can not escape from a non spinning black hole as observed from far away. If a space ship reaches that radius from our perspective, it would totally blink out

Re: [Vo]:[OT]:Question About Event Horizon

2012-12-26 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 05:56 PM 12/26/2012, Craig wrote: Isn't it a calculated location? Isn't it the radius from the center of the black hole at which a theoretical object at a great distance would reach the speed of light when falling into the black hole from its gravity? No. Mass doesn't ever reach the speed

Re: [Vo]:[OT]:Question About Event Horizon

2012-12-26 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 07:17 PM 12/26/2012, David Roberson wrote: Well, this was a type of trick question. I agree that from the perspective of an observer far away out of the influence of the imaginary black hole boundary the probe ship would never appear to breech the boundary. We would see any light emitted

Re: [Vo]:[OT]:Question About Event Horizon

2012-12-26 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 07:33 PM 12/26/2012, David Roberson wrote: Abd, time is supposed to be dilated for the probe ship from our perspective as it approaches the black hole event boundary. Yes, it would be. However,time is dilated for muons that are travelling close to c, but they don't slow down. They are

Re: [Vo]:[OT]:Question About Event Horizon

2012-12-26 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
-Original Message- From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com; vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Dec 26, 2012 9:53 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT]:Question About Event Horizon At 05:55 PM 12/26/2012, David Roberson wrote: That makes it a bit more complicated. I

Re: [Vo]:Digital information storage in DNA

2012-12-26 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 07:59 PM 12/26/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote: Yes, digital information is indeed present in DNA. Agreement! One has to wonder how it got there. Oh, we know pretty well. Details, not necessarily, but Reality (God, Allah) knows how to create DNA. Scientists follow the footprints, test to see if

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-26 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
is better *if justice is established.* Hmph. End speech. Jojo - Original Message - From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 6:55 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-25 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:03 AM 12/25/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote: I am doing this is highlight a problem. If you call for the termination of this thread, you need to call for the termination of all off-topic threads. I believe that is only fair. There is no general off-topic problem. Judging posts as off-topic

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Lomax Question

2012-12-25 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:36 PM 12/25/2012, mole4l...@gmail.com wrote: Lomax, Thanks for answer. Next, is amputation prevalent in Sharia Law nations? Ref: http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=1ID=1895CATE=12 Student Noting the trolling name, and here in OT land, and noting that I'm not an expert on All

RE: [Vo]:there is something funny go one out there

2012-12-25 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 08:30 PM 12/24/2012, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: I was formally taught that energy matter are interchangeable. I was also taught that neither of these states of existence can be created out of thin air or destroyed. Since our bodies are made of the exact same stuff that

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-25 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
It's obvious that the goal here is not agreement. It's also obvious that there will be no handshake (though I'd not refuse to agree, no matter what I say now; the Qur'an actually says, Do not let your oaths keep you from doing what's right.) Okay, the Qur'an does not actually say that. I

RE: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-25 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 01:44 AM 12/25/2012, MarkI-ZeroPoint wrote: Dave: Couldn’t agree more, that there will never be agreement… and that’s ok, but take the debate elsewhere, guys… -Mark This forum is being abused to host material that is (1) not relevant and (2) highly offensive. This isn't just the

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Lomax Question

2012-12-25 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:36 AM 12/25/2012, orgasm wikipedia wrote: Jojo, Lomax knows when he is humiliated by his Muslim beliefs. He will not answer Student question 2. Merry Christmas. Wikipedia Rather poor prediction. I answered the question in another post, before I saw this. This was it: Thanks for

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-25 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 11:15 AM 12/25/2012, David Roberson wrote: The recent intense concentration upon religious issues is not very useful for several reasons. It is apparent that you have a strong Christian faith and that others within this group favor the Muslim faith to an equally strong degree. David is

RE: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-25 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 12:27 PM 12/25/2012, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: Dave, First you post an opinion that this particular conversation thread, a conversation which I would agree has been extensively researched, should be taken elsewhere. But then, in your next post you begin to participate in

Re: [Vo]:Electronics Project on promotion this week

2012-12-25 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
Nifty, I'm sure Frank. However, I have such a device. It's called an iPhone 5, using Siri. Siri, by the way, is named after SRI International, better known to us for cold fusion research, but that's a tiny part of what they do. They developed Siri, as an intelligent assistant. Very

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-25 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
This is brilliant. Jojo tells a self-justifing story about the history here, and it certainly doesn't match my memory, and I've gone over the history to write some of the posts in recent threads. But I can make mistakes and my memory can be faulty. I'm not going to reseach it again unless

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-25 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
Again, brilliant. At 07:11 PM 12/25/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote: [...] Lomax claims that my attempts to stop off-topic posts are coercive. I'm not sure which twilight zone Lomax live in, but of course they are coercive. Like Jojo can't bring himself to agree with me. I.e., he acknowledges that

Re: [Vo]:Vortex Engine

2012-12-24 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 11:18 AM 12/24/2012, James Bowery wrote: From NextBigFuture: http://nextbigfuture.com/2012/12/peter-theil-funds-atmospheric-vortex.html#GoatGuy •Â http://nnextbigfuture.com/2012/12/peter-theil-funds-atmospheric-vortex.html#comment-74637001718 hours ago Oh well... guess this one's worth

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age--for the education of Jojo

2012-12-24 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 01:48 PM 12/24/2012, de Bivort Lawrence wrote: A discussion of the issue of Ayesha and her age and condition at the time of marriage, and some related descriptions. Thanks. I had not discussed this issue for probably almost a decade. I've been rummaging around and found three web sites

Re: [Vo]:[OT} Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-24 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
to the library to do some real research. LOL - Original Message - From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 2:27 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age At 10

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-24 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
to the library to do some real research. LOL Laugh now, you may have less opportunity later. No more original content below. - Original Message - From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 2:27 PM Subject: Re

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Lomax Question

2012-12-24 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 03:28 AM 12/25/2012, mole4l...@gmail.com wrote: Lomax, You said ask. Well if Muslim law were adopted in the US, would this include requirements of FGM for all young girls as practiced today in Muslim countries? See Egypt Demographic and Health Survey (EDHS). EDHS also showed that 91

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-24 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
Christmas. You have a few days to really set up a good spin of the truth. I hope you make the most out of your time? Quickly, off to the library to do some real research. LOL - Original Message - From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; vortex

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Lomax Question

2012-12-24 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 07:36 PM 12/24/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote: Quite honestly, this is the first time I've heard of FGM. After my first google, I found out what it was and was taken aback by the practice. This sort of retrograde practice of course is typical of islam. This is a tribal tradition. When women are

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-23 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
Thanks to Lawrence. I should mention that my opinons about Islam are my own. I was internationally known as a writer on Islam well before 2000. I accepted Islam in 1971, but I wouldn't say that, at that point, I understood it very well. I was Muslim Chaplain at San Quentin State Prison, having

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Sent a message of query off to Mr. Beaty concerning recent trolling activity

2012-12-23 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 10:32 PM 12/22/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote: Then maybe, he can see that I was discussing with civility on a thread I started before Lomax, SVJ and others started the insults. Yes, I am the troll for responding appropriately to insults. Maybe, he'll notice that my responses are with insults

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-23 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 12:51 AM 12/23/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote: My friends, you will notice who it is that wanted to keep this topic alive. The facts make it clear in case the Vortex system does not. Lomax started this thread for which I responded with the truth. Orgasm Wikipedia responded by agreeing and

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-23 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 07:04 AM 12/23/2012, orgasm wikipedia wrote: Jojo, Not to worry. Free people appoint strong moral pillars such as yourself to Secretary of State positions to administer laws against terrorism such as: Ah. OW is trolling Jojo, too. The document that is then quoted is an altered version

Re: [Vo]:Skynet Advances

2012-12-23 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 01:34 PM 12/22/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: Harry Veeder mailto:hveeder...@gmail.comhveeder...@gmail.com wrote: If it responded to input from a leash it would not have to be so navigational smart. I think the point is: you can tell it to go from point A to point B in a battlefield, and it

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Sent a message of query off to Mr. Beaty concerning recent trolling activity

2012-12-23 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 02:20 PM 12/22/2012, Vorl Bek wrote: But aside from such outrages, unpleasantness can best be dealt with by using a killfile. I don't use a killfile, because I historically often need to review messages quickly. I filter his posts into a special folder, and don't routinely read them. But

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Sent a message of query off to Mr. Beaty concerning recent trolling activity

2012-12-23 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
Eh? Daniel seems to a bit, ah, out of it here. Nobody is blocked, not yet. Mr. Beaty has been asked to consider responding to the situation, and that's it. I'm not sure what Daniel is saying here. Yes, posts here show up on Google searches. In fact, when I have tried to find sources for Jojo

Re: [Vo]:Skynet Advances

2012-12-23 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 03:45 PM 12/22/2012, Harry Veeder wrote: yeah your right, a leash works on beings with feelings...this thing doesn't feel. It could easily be made to feel a leash. But you also want autonomy. I.e., the leader, even if using a leash, which would be connected to a sensor that detect the

Re: [Vo]:Skynet Advances

2012-12-23 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:25 PM 12/22/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: Imagine having a cold fusion powered version of one of these things coming after you in the woods. Inexorably. What a nightmare! Worse than a real dog. Well, not yet. Whack that rotating thing on its face with a big stick. But, yes, eventually this

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-23 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
practicing what Jesus so clearly warned against. (No more original content below). On Dec 23, 2012, at 12:04 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: Thanks to Lawrence. I should mention that my opinons about Islam are my own. I was internationally known as a writer on Islam well before 2000. I

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-23 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:17 PM 12/23/2012, Terry Blanton wrote: On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 2:45 PM, de Bivort Lawrence ldebiv...@gmail.com wrote: Many thanks, Terry. My first reaction to the earlier posting of this text was, Fascism arises. Interesting to see its provenance! The British seem to have

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Sent a message of query off to Mr. Beaty concerning recent trolling activity

2012-12-23 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 05:36 PM 12/23/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote: As I was when people started calling the Bible a fairy tale written by goat herders. I don't recall that. Rather rude, I'd say, but is there something wrong with being a goat herder (i.e., a nomad)? People who believe the Bible (or the Qur'an) are

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Sent a message of query off to Mr. Beaty concerning recent trolling activity

2012-12-23 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 06:11 PM 12/23/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote: Excellent spin Lomax. Gotta admit, I did not forsee this spin. So, it's about Balance now, right? OK, if I am understanding you correctly, we should look at muhammed's life in Balance. No, Jojo does not understand. Judging the interpretation of

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Sent a message of query off to Mr. Beaty concerning recent trolling activity

2012-12-23 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
liar, just like your great HOLEY prophet. Jojo - Original Message - From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 1:31 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Sent a message of query off to Mr. Beaty concerning recent

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Sent a message of query off to Mr. Beaty concerning recent trolling activity

2012-12-23 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
Why would he care about off-topic posts on a list that he doesn't subscribe to? At 10:38 PM 12/23/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote:  Can you guarantee no more incessant off-topic posts? Jojo - Original Message - From: mailto:ol...@rochester.rr.comDavid L Babcock To:

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-23 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 10:30 PM 12/23/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote: Lomax accuses me of cherry picking what I read, but he does that even better than I. Quite honestly, I have never met anyone with such an innate skill at spinnng the truth. Excellent work Lomax. The point is, Lomax conveniently ignores that the 2

Re: [Vo]:Vortex Engine

2012-12-22 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
The vortex proposal is interesting, certainly worthy of some engineering study to confirm the numbers. I have not read the Michaud proposal, I am simply reacting to the idea. As I understand it, heat energy available from some source, like waste heat from a power plant, would be allowed to

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Sent a message of query off to Mr. Beaty concerning recent trolling activity

2012-12-22 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
I support Steven's action. I have not contacted Mr. Beaty, and my position in general is that individuals should not be banned from the list without a violated warning from someone speaking with authority. But that's normative, not prescriptive, and the matter is up to list owner discretion. I

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-22 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 06:26 AM 12/22/2012, orgasm wikipedia wrote: I STILL AGREE! See bottom of this comment. http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=vortex-l@eskimo.comq=from:%22Jojo+Jaro%22Jojo Jaro http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=vortex-l@eskimo.comq=date:20121220Thu, 20 Dec 2012 21:52:43 -0800

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-22 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 12:58 PM 12/22/2012, Harvey Norris wrote: Are all muslims preoccupied with obsessions? Obsessed Muslims seem to be preoccupied with their obsessions, perhaps unlike other humans who Can Stop Anytime I Want, I Just Don't Want To. However, to know about all Muslims, I'd need to know about

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age

2012-12-21 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 12:51 AM 12/21/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote: I am not going to respond to your spin anymore. Once upon a time, I'd be hopeful reading this. But again and again, my hopes were dashed. Jojo lies, it's that simple. The reader only needs to research this to confirm I am speaking the truth. Again

Re: [Vo]:STMicroelectronics report on their version of the Celani apparatus

2012-12-20 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 05:08 PM 12/19/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: Harry Veeder mailto:hveeder...@gmail.comhveeder...@gmail.com wrote: Does this mean they did not detect any anomalous gamma or neutrons emissions? If so then it is more evidence that the Celani doesn't produce excess heat. Incorrect. Most cold fusion

Re: [Vo]:STMicroelectronics report on their version of the Celani apparatus

2012-12-20 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 03:43 PM 12/19/2012, Harry Veeder wrote: STMicroelectronics report on their version of the Celani apparatus: http://www.22passi.it/coherence2012/coherence%2014%20dicembre%202012%20Celani%20wire.pdf On page 2 it says over a couple of charts: Neutron and gamma continuous recording in ST lab.

Re: [Vo]:Swedish TV (SVT) show on Rossi Ecat

2012-12-20 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 05:09 PM 12/19/2012, lenr4po...@gmail.com wrote: How dare you treat rights of privacy so lightly? Find yourself a bureaucratic job in DC minding other peoples business. Fart Fart produced, as the name might indicate, more gaseous emissions, perhaps single-handedly contributing to the

Re: [Vo]:STMicroelectronics report on their version of the Celani apparatus

2012-12-20 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 07:34 PM 12/19/2012, Harry Veeder wrote: I meant that if the excess heat is real and whatever the cause of the excess heat, the excess heat might force a limited number of transmutations and emit a small amount of gammas and neutrons. Sure, the FPHE appears to do that, but the small

RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Swedish TV (SVT) show on Rossi Ecat

2012-12-20 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 01:47 PM 12/20/2012, Roarty, Francis X wrote: I’m trying to ignore the hostility associated with this thread because the subject material still has my curiosity piqued.. does anyone have some related links where I can learn more about “lucky saint” and his theories… any historical

Re: [Vo]:STMicroelectronics report on their version of the Celani apparatus

2012-12-20 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
/library.htmhttp://www.iscmns.org/library.htm See the papers concerning the same subject, even in the JCMNS vol. 6, where Karabut published with Hagelstein: http://www.iscmns.org/CMNS/JCMNS-Vol6.pdfhttp://www.iscmns.org/CMNS/JCMNS-Vol6.pdf 2012/12/20 Abd ul-Rahman Lomax mailto:a...@lomaxdesign.coma

Re: [Vo]:[OT] Everyone Needs a Hobby

2012-12-20 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 02:16 PM 12/20/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: Wow! I am surprised the recoil from the machine gun does not make the helicopter go completely out of control. The guy who made that video is nuts. Actually, a quick review of the video showed no sign of recoil. Further, the dummies being attacked

RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Swedish TV (SVT) show on Rossi Ecat

2012-12-20 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:29 PM 12/20/2012, Roarty, Francis X wrote: Abd, My interest was piqued because I suspect It might be my own theories being fed back to the vort.. the bit about milling the powder in inert gas and then submerging the finished reactor immediately in a heat sink directly from the glove box

Re: [Vo]:Swedish TV (SVT) show on Rossi Ecat

2012-12-20 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 05:06 PM 12/20/2012, James Bowery wrote: On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax mailto:a...@lomaxdesign.coma...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: James Bowery http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=vortex-l@eskimo.comq=from:%22James+Bowery%22http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=vortex-l

Re: [Vo]:Swedish TV (SVT) show on Rossi Ecat

2012-12-20 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 06:24 PM 12/20/2012, James Bowery wrote: On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax mailto:a...@lomaxdesign.coma...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: At 05:06 PM 12/20/2012, James Bowery wrote: Induction heating would require a visible device nearby. If Lucky Saint is sincerely

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Swedish TV (SVT) show on Rossi Ecat

2012-12-20 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 05:56 PM 12/20/2012, Brad Lowe wrote: The sad part is we have the same proof for the magic penny as we do for the e-cat and Hyperion. Well, close, but not quite. We don't have any clear independent confirmation for those latter devices, but the claims, first of all, are not quite so

[Vo]:Continued trolling by Jojo Jaro

2012-12-18 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 02:22 PM 12/17/2012, Jojo Jaro wrote: Original Subject: [Vo]:New Data Worrying 2000 climatologists about Global Warming Here's some new data that is worrying 2000 climatologists about Global Warming . [the complete post is quoted at the bottom] Jojo, below, claims that others are

Re: [Vo]:Continued trolling by Jojo Jaro

2012-12-18 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 01:33 PM 12/18/2012, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: Abd, My take on all of this… and I’m sure Jojo is listening inn… I believe you have assembled a reasonably accurate chronology of Jojo’s posting proclivities. However, I suspect too many within the Collective are missing the

Re: [Vo]:Continued trolling by Jojo Jaro

2012-12-18 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 01:10 PM 12/18/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax mailto:a...@lomaxdesign.coma...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: This particular post trolled Jed. It was highly sarcastic and in-your-face. It worked, and Jojo has shown great skill as a troll. For the record, I did not notice this. I

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Swedish TV (SVT) show on Rossi Ecat

2012-12-18 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
Well, let's respond straightly. If our friend has this boiling device (five years!), then he can easily show it. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 18, 2012, at 2:08 PM, Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com wrote: On Tue Dec 18 James said [snip] Is there any reason to believe Lucky Saint

Re: [Vo]:Popular Mechanics predictions for the next 110 years

2012-12-16 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 03:29 PM 12/16/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: This kind of thing is such fun! See: http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/engineering/news/110-predictions-for-the-next-110-yearshttp://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/engineering/news/110-predictions-for-the-next-110-years I have a book

Re: [Vo]:wow i think we can call Irving Langmuir father of cold fusion.

2012-12-16 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
Another has written about problems with the Naudin replication. I haven't checked that out, but, yes, if you believe everything you read on the Internet, and don't check it, your mind can be blown. Rather easily, since it's held together with chewing gum and a bit of duct tape. Seriously, I

RE: [Vo]:wow i think we can call Irving Langmuir father of cold fusion.

2012-12-16 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 09:50 AM 12/16/2012, Jones Beene wrote: Very silly error by Naudin (discovered up by George Holz on the MAGH forum) in that JLN was using a 5% duty cycle and calculated the gain by reducing the input readings - instead of measuring them directly. Naudin's error was a multiple of 20

RE: [Vo]:wow i think we can call Irving Langmuir father of cold fusion.

2012-12-16 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 09:50 AM 12/16/2012, Jones Beene wrote: There are other Naudin sites which suffer the same problem. An inability to admit personal error is fatal for anyone involved with scientific investigation. A real scientist, discovering a significant error in published work, will *immediately*

RE: [Vo]:wow i think we can call Irving Langmuir father of cold fusion.

2012-12-16 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 09:50 AM 12/16/2012, Jones Beene wrote: There are other Naudin sites which suffer the same problem. Jones I see that Sterling Allen's page on the MHG project by Naudin never benefited from an explanation of the input power error. It's got some enthusiastic posts from you. Maybe you'd

Re: [Vo]:Popular Mechanics predictions for the next 110 years

2012-12-16 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 07:47 PM 12/16/2012, Jouni Valkonen wrote: Actually, we will _never_ build large space or Mars colonies, because we have Venus for second home. Venus is after initial costs cheaper place to live than Earth, because solar energy at Venus is free (far cheaper than e.g. thermal cold fusion

Re: [Vo]:Fw: Biggest con jobs in the history of mankind.

2012-12-15 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:55 PM 12/14/2012, Harvey Norris wrote: When I was a kid in the Cleveland area, we rushed home from school (in the early 60's) to see Captain Penny and his bullwinkle show and assorted cartoons. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Penny Captain Penny would say at the end of every

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