On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
Some might find this concept creepy.
More like silly -- unless they burn corpses day and night for years,
they're not going to recover very much energy and there are better, cleaner
sources. They shouldn't burn the bodies
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
In addition, the RF would have a near instantaneous effect, whereas Mary’s
suggestion would have a very significant time-lag… thus, as Axil pointed
out, a much greater likelihood of runaway.
It's doubtful
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 10:24 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
I suggest that the fact that the current into the resistive heater
elements was measured also eliminates this kind of magic.
I don't believe that was ever done. It probably doesn't matter but if
anyone knows of it
Darn. Between the vagaries of the gmail system and Vortex, half the time I
can end up responding to the wrong people. Seems I did respond only to
Mats to what was a personal email to me and a few others and which Jed
posted on Vort. OK. So here is my reply, now public (sorry I got confused
--
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 5:15 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 8:05 AM, Mattia Rizzi mattia.ri...@gmail.com
wrote:
-.-
Rossi is asking for money. He asked money to Defkalion in February/March
(A
LOT OF MONEY) for his technology (deadline of payment around
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 7:40 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
I think that they
are relieved that AR failed to deliver by their deadline and had
already in their possession the secret of how the reactor worked,
assuming this is all true.
Yes, and that would be a huge assumption.
If you look at their schedule, it appears that their secret source of
energy is... COFFEE!
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
Believers seem to have the fundamental problem that they don't
differentiate
between claims and facts or evidence and they don't require independent
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Vorl Bek vorl@antichef.com wrote:
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com
wrote:
So Steorn were not true scammers?
No, just stupid. And usually drunk.
What is it so far ~16 million? Not bad for a bunch of stupid
drunks
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.comwrote:
On 11-12-05 12:50 PM, Terry Blanton wrote:
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Mary Yugomaryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
Believers seem to have the fundamental problem that they don't
differentiate
between claims and
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.comwrote:
On 11-12-05 12:50 PM, Terry Blanton wrote:
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Mary Yugomaryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
Believers seem to have the fundamental problem that they don't
differentiate
between claims and
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Berke Durak berke.du...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com
wrote:
Right. Anything can be explained that way...
Thank God you weren't there when they came up with quantum theory.
Cude could not have impeded
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote:
Whose source of energy, dear Mary? You are speaking about ISCMNS? I like
humor but there are limits. It is very possible that my Alzheimer is
progressing faster but I don't get this joke
Please. It was just a silly
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
This incident also confirms my belief that he is the world's worst
con-man. He could not con candy from a baby. He could not sell water to
someone dying of thirst. In a perverse way, this gives me confidence in his
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote:
I have corresponded with Randi directly, and I saw his recent video.
Nothing he says about cold fusion has any merit. He knows nothing about
this subject.
Have you
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Peter Heckert wrote:
Watch this magician: http://youtu.be/VsYDRRGmpXU
At 6:00 he makes steam and he allows more access than Rossi ;-)
His Japanese is pretty good.
Do you seriously think that a chemist examining
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
Do you seriously think that a chemist examining that cup would not find
the source of heat? Get real. Once you look inside the magic trick stage
prop, the trick is always instantly
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
At 02:30 PM 12/5/2011, Mary Yugo wrote:
We don't know what tests Ampenergo did -- perhaps it was more of the
uncalibrated and error prone heat of vaporization of steam type experiments
that Rossi is so fond of doing even
If Rossi's operations are, as it sometimes seems, similar in nature to
Steorn's, then it may be sometime before he does another inconclusive
demonstration of some type -- if there even is another. Steorn, in their
now deleted forum, between increasingly long periods of no news, repeatedly
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
Short of engaging Dr. Lightman (Tim Roth):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lie_to_me
I have found watching eye movement to be effective:
http://www.blifaloo.com/info/lies_eyes.php
And, no, AR does not display any of
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Mattia Rizzi mattia.ri...@gmail.comwrote:
Yes he is, but I have read many messages here saying he is NOT lying
and I thought I have prejudices against him for the following story:
Rossi is lying and we have some facts about it.
In an interview (March) he
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
But another interesting question is what he may received from secret
investors. He gets offers every day on his blog and even on other people's
blogs! One can only imagine what
Interesting. Long on theory. Short on data.
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't find this interesting. I think it pointless. You know nothing
about Rossi's business, so this is mere empty speculation, gossip, and
snooping into other people's private
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
I guess that the qualifications of Michael A. Nelson will annoy some
people:
Energy Investigator (Last 5 years as a hobby)
SEARL, Papp Engine, Over unity electric motors, Rossi
I only saw the first PDF. Is someone
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.netwrote:
http://blog.newenergytimes.**com/2011/12/04/slides-from-**
sept-22-nasa-lenr-innovation-**forum-workshop/http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/12/04/slides-from-sept-22-nasa-lenr-innovation-forum-workshop/
... On the
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.netwrote:
Hard to tell if this should be a Ingmar Bergman like approach or a Woody
Allen kind of farce. Too early to tell I guess.
On the balance, I think Rossi is hilarious, especially when gets angry,
scowls, or rants on
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
Why are you asking me?
I'm asking anyone who knows.
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 6:51 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
What video? I am talking about what happened to when NASA personnel
visited Rossi.
2011/12/5 Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net
On Dec 4, 2011, at 5:27 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote:
Or Krivit is simply lying or
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
Why are you so sure of his honesty?
Krivit's? First, I have no reason to doubt it. It seems likely that NASA
people did that, saw that and said that. It's consistent with Rossi's
history.
Second, if Krivit is lying
Sorry, it took some time for me to get to it.
http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/08/05/reviewing-ny-teknik-video-did-rossi-play-with-power-setting/
That's the whole discussion via Krivit's blog. The actual Youtube video is
here:
On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote:
I disagree. Terrible idea, terrible article. Estimates are that $200 M has
been spent on cold fusion research in 22 years. If that's not enough to
generate unequivocal evidence of *heat* from nuclear reactions in a
On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote:
Estimates are that $200 M has been spent on cold fusion research in 22
years.
Just out curiosity, how do we know that number? Has there been a study?
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 7:09 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
From MY:
From Rossi:
... E-CATS ARE FOR SALE ONLY FOR WHAT CONCERNS 1 THERMAL MW PLANTS,
BECAUSE THE 10 KW E-CATS ARE NOT YET CERTIFIED ...
I made the mistake of browsing through my filter pile.
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
This is an exercise in futility but I copied part of a message I posted here
to the Defkalion forum:
http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4232#p4232
Thank you, thank you, thank you. Excellent.
I knew they were coming out with something sexy. It has a pleasure
sensor! I kid you not:
http://i.imgur.com/X8AZQ.jpg
Two terminally blurry images and a bunch of computer assisted drawings?
It's hardly what Defkalion was claiming for months they had -- many devices
under extensive testing at high power levels and long runs. What ever
happened to the much advertised program to have the Greek authorities
validate
It needs a pleasure sensor.
*Has your muon catalysed fusion system been independently tested?*
Our system has undergone, and continues to undergo, rigorous testing by our
own team of scientists as well as leading, independent global experts from
around the world. As long as our IP is protected, we have an open door
policy
Someone on Moletrap asked the unit of measure for the pleasure sensor.
Someone else answered psighs.
Most of third party tests will be broad casted (via Internet life stream)
with the acceptance of the testers. We have been prepared and equipped to
do so already
Good!
Date of every specific schedule tests will be released later.
Not so good. At least they didn't say soon!
From Defkalion's
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.dewrote:
http://www.moletrap.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Rossicaptions
Wanted to upload this but cannot find a way to register...
Hi Peter,
If you want to join the moletrap forum, please go to
http://www.moletrap.co.uk/forum/
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote:
Something doesn't make sense.
Many things don't. If the Hyperions require mains power and use only a
small battery for backup, what do they do in the event of a long lasting
mains power failure in some remote location
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
Why don't they recycle heat from the output to the input through a
regulator if they need heat input?
This would appear to be a violation of the laws of thermodynamics. Perhaps
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote:
Yes. Totally stand alone. While Rossi will not guarantee the Ac kW output,
which is as it should be, he has basically agreed to the idea of the test
setup. See you were wrong when you questioned my ability to do a
If you're easily offended, just skip it.
http://www.moletrap.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Rossicaptions
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
** **
If it’s all a hoax, gotta ask yourself, why would Rossi go to all the
trouble of completely changing the reactor? If the thing is NOT producing
any excess power, and if the Ni powder is NOT melting,
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote:
4) Total plant cost (thermal and electrical) of $2,500,000 for a 1 MW
thermal plant that produces 183 Ac kW after internal usage / losses
Playing the game for a moment, why does the thing have to cost $2.5M?
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 8:57 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote:
As a potential customer it is not my concern as it has no effect on the
ROI or LCOE of any plant and / or equipment he may supply to us.
Apparently you're also not too concerned that Rossi may be a liar.
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 9:22 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote:
I'm not buying Rossi. I'm buying a piece of hardware with specifications
that define how it should work. Hardware does not lie. Humans do lie and I
accept that happens. Are you asking me to believe you have never
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 9:52 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote:
Rossi has not yet released the technical specs for the 1 MW thermal oil /
fluid plant. It is still under RD as he says. But he works fast and I
expect this to happen soon. When he does so we can rapidly move
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 8:47 PM, fznidar...@aol.com wrote:
Of all of this patent goings on, no one has applied for a patent to
produce electrical power directly from a LENR reaction. The don't know
enough. They are just making thermal energy to spin a turbine.
Who is spinning a turbine
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 11:33 PM, Marcello Vitale mvit...@ucsbalum.netwrote:
“Rossi said he was not ready for a full academic investigation of his
technology because he doesn’t yet have full patent protection,’’ Tamarin
said. “That’s consistent with it not working, but it’s also consistent
So, if I understand you correctly, patent protection doesn't work. So why
do we bother with an expensive patent office and all those millions
(billions?) of patents?
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
Hank Mills
November 28th, 2011 at 1:15
AMhttp://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=510cpage=35#comment-133037
Hello Andrea,
I apologize if I’m not controlling my passion about this topic quite as
well as I should.
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Giovanni Santostasi
gsantost...@gmail.comwrote:
Yes, I will sign up too.
Alan we miss the bandwagon.
I guess Mary is taking all the money.
G
You can have the Rossi business. I'm concentrating on debunking Hugh
Deasy's antigravity machine. Boeing is paying
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 10:01 AM, ecat builder ecatbuil...@gmail.comwrote:
MY, You are comments are snide, cantankerous and counter-productive.
Its no wonder you're hiding behind a pseudonym. He didn't say people
are spinning a turbine, he said they are generating heat _to_ spin a
turbine.
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote:
fznidar...@aol.com wrote:
Bite me Brad!
MY, You are comments are snide, cantankerous and counter-productive.
He meant Mary Yugo, not you.
Well, he can't bite me. He might have a disease.
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:54 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
I agree Horace. This is pathetic.
Dave
Deasy, IIRC, has a PhD in a physical science or engineering and is a flight
dynamics specialist by profession. He supported Steorn and for all I know,
still believes that have
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.dewrote:
Am 28.11.2011 22:01, schrieb Mary Yugo: Aah now I see, it this is this
guy:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L50cxskxyQw/TKmSDtQ5iqI/BKw/4-Jfnncch1M/s1600/steorn_vid.JPGhttp://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L50cxskxyQw
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote:
I suggest Rossi is more skilled in the art of understanding and
controlling his reactors than anyone on the planet. He was there so his
health was also at risk. It is a cheap shot to suggest to suggest he
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
Rossi has written on his blog about having had many explosions. I want
to
see one (somewhere isolated where nobody can get hurt). That would
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote:
Patents in themselves give the inventor no real commercial protection
unless they have the funds and time to defend it in court. Investors like
to see patents, so maybe they do have a use.
Rossi could patent the
Good idea but you need tighter and way more specific criteria for how the
bet can be won or lost. Widely accepted is sort of vague and loose. How
about:
- said to have been properly tested and said to work by fusion or LENR as
advertised and with the net energy quotient quoted by Rossi (6:1 or
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote:
And how do you know that is the case? I would suggest he has. Even better
to do it as a provisional. Rossi then gets another 12 months to keep it
secret yet establishes a worldwide priority date.
How do I know
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Robert Leguillon
robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote:
BTW, the most random two-digit number is 37.
Hilarious!
, it will be widely acclaimed so you should have no
worries with my previous suggestion.
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Patrick Ellul ellulpatr...@gmail.comwrote:
Mary Yugo,
Would you take up the challenge if I state the terms to be:
More than 5 companies with at least 50 employees each publicly
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Patrick Ellul ellulpatr...@gmail.comwrote:
I do have one condition though, that the challenger reveals their true
identity.
Well, that's a problem. I have no intention of discussing anything about
my identity.
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 6:22 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
visitable by the qualified public
who qualifies?
My guess is: people who feel at home in equipment rooms with 1 MW
reactors. That would not include me.
My guess is nobody
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 6:52 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
My guess is: people who feel at home in equipment rooms with 1 MW
reactors. That would not include me.
My guess is nobody who can test it properly and my second guess
But you could argue there is one now -- all you have to do is place an
order with *ah hem!* Rossi.
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.comwrote:
Perhaps it is better to keep it simple: 'By December 2013 there will
be commercially available cold fusion reactor
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
It is true that the tests witnessed by EK were somewhat sloppy. They
could have used better instrumentation. However, EK are good scientists
and they understand that no experiment
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
Wait a minute...
Hey, AussieGuy, is Aussie your first or last name?
:-)
Can't remember if you've identified yourself to the Vort Collective or
not!!
Come on, what's good for the goose is good for the
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 7:11 PM, Patrick Ellul ellulpatr...@gmail.comwrote:
Mary Yugo,
Yep that is a problem.
Certainly says something about your convictions if you are not able to
back them up with your real identity.
No. It says that when I did reveal my identity in the past, I abused
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:11 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
To hide behind the veil of anonymity on a discussion group such as this is
cowardly.
I have followed vortex-l since the 90s, and can’t remember any dispute
between contributors which might have caused one
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 10:42 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.com
wrote:
SNIP
Good luck ever seeing an E-cat much less getting one to test. I do hope
you do but I very much doubt you ever will.
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 8:25 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
How dare he. Internet, my foot.
Just in case you were serious, the archives here:
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/ are most certainly on the
internet.
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Charles Hope lookslikeiwasri...@gmail.com wrote:
That's fine, but then Rossi and his believers need to quit complaining or
expressing alarm when folks see this misdirection and reasonably interpret
it as evidence of a
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
IBM's vaporware gambit was a scam and the DOJ took IBM to court for it
and also Kodak for similar maneuvers.
As far as I know, the DOJ lost these cases. It would be difficult
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
Interestingly, Steorn's investors have never made a public statement or
taken the company or its officers to court and they are most certainly and
obviously a scam.
Getting back
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
Mary, you must be real naïve about the business environment…
** **
You claim that,
“Ripoffs are far from inevitable and in fact rarely happen from big
companies when dealing with established
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Berke Durak berke.du...@gmail.com wrote:
I'd be happier when you guys come up with real arguments and not silly I
don't
like his handwriting! arguments.
Sure. The argument against the October 28 test is that the customer
is anonymous and who Fioravanti
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 11:11 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com
wrote:
Horace hibernates this time of year.
Speaking about hibernation, there could be a contest to make the best
caption for this image:
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
I am sure they will continue to assert that Fioravanti does not know the
difference between grams and kilograms for as long as this dispute lasts,
until Rossi is either accepted by the mass media, or forgotten.
Krivit provides details of the deal Rossi refused from Celani:
http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/11/26/rossi-declines-italian-and-u-s-government-testing-offers/
The terms appear extremely reasonable and the cost is very low, especially
for someone who just sold a $2 million plant and is
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.comwrote:
What would be the advantage to Rossi if he provided a conclusive test?
The advantage would be that people would believe him. If he did not want
to be believed, why has he gone through all the demonstrations he has
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
Rossi Story: Corriere di Bologna Gets it Wrong
http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/11/26/rossi-story-corriere-di-bologna-gets-it-wrong/
No they didn't. It says it will start within weeks on receipt of the
first
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Giovanni Santostasi
gsantost...@gmail.com wrote:
What Mary is describing is the only rational course of action. What
Rossi is
doing is what a scam artist would do
And, in your
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Berke Durak berke.du...@gmail.com wrote:
PS. How about a ban on ad hominem attacks and unsusbtantiated
accusations or insinuations of scam or incompetence?
The possibility of Rossi's E-cat being a scam has been widely discussed all
over the internet and is a
Terry, take a moment and google and review the cases of:
Bedini
Dennis Lee
Sniffex (and it's $100 million lethal successors such as the ADE651,
GT200, H3 Tec, HEDD1, AL-6D)
Perendev
Mylow
Jeff Otto
Carl Tilley
Aviso
Any scam of the day at peswiki.com (Sterling cycles them through more
than once a
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote:
A little digging and this comes up:
SNIP This doesn't mean that anything sinister is going on. It's
just that I had thought that he was building the e-cats here.
Good investigative job. Not sinister maybe but
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote:
6) The equipment on the website at www.leonardocorp1996.com seems to be
something from Bologna, It.
It's actually quite funny. Supposedly, this company I never heard of
before the Rossi affairs, supposdely sells
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
He moved his US operation to Miami.
He has a factory in Miami? Where? I might be able to drop by on a
trip and get some clandestine photos if you can get a for sure
location.
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com
wrote:
Mary wrote: »Krivit provides details of the deal Rossi refused from
Celani»
Like it is typical for Krivit, he did not provide any details but silly,
arrogant and misinformed pseudopsychological speculations that are
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 6:34 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
So a scam to rip off investors is ruled out.
How do we know Ampenergo knows things? How did we rule out that
Ampenergo is in on a scam? Ampenergo (vile name by the way -- reminds
me of Ampere No go) promised they'd
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 6:51 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 9:47 PM, Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com
wrote:
So he seems to have the corporation set up on paper in at least two
states, but hasn't yet started production in America.
You really don't
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote:
He's already sold 13 of these things and plans to deliver in them in 3
months.
If I said he was a scammer and will be arrested, you'd correct me to
be sure I said it was my
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 7:21 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
You don't know and I don't know.
I hope we agree that you don't know and I don't know is not support for
the idea that Rossi is telling the truth. Otherwise, I will have to bring
back my unicorn example again.
, that's
fine. Take it or leave it. Mary Yugo does not think we have explained it.
That's no problem, but she should stop saying no one can explain this or
no one has explained this. She should say: I do not believe these
explanations. I think McKubre and Rothwell are wrong.
Happy to. I think
On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Charles Hope lookslikeiwasri...@gmail.com wrote:
So the client is the American military, who has hired Fioravanti to take
possession of their goods, and though the branch wants to keep their
identity secret, it
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