On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
At 12:25 PM 11/17/2011, Mary Yugo wrote: No secrets-- just results in
terms of methods used, instruments used, raw data obtained and computed
results. No gamma spectrum or anything else he supposedly objects to.
You
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 1:35 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
Be careful what you ask for Mary.
I don't understand. Do you mean I'd be upset to get an Ecat for $100K?
Why? (oh why?)
I just wish Rossi had a good sense of humor.
I just wish he had a good sense of fairness and
snip
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote:
Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
There are a lot of these claims, aren't there?
Yes and so far, all have been scams or failures
which Rossi
could easily squelch and hasn't.
The duration was also long enough to satisfy any rational demand for
proof. Mary Yugo and others keep saying the run was too short even though
it was 24 times longer than anyone needs to be sure the effect is real. She
sets arbitrary goals
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 2:03 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
Some others hope that the ECAT is a scam, especially those who make a
living based upon industries that will be replaced.
I have no relationship with any industry that wouldn't be helped rather
than hindered by the
If it's a scam, the way Rossi will have brought out the E-cat will be
discussed for a long time for it's stupidity and lack of concern for the
well-being of the civilization.
Ooops... pressed the button too quickly. If it' NOT a scam, etc. etc.
Very sorry for the extra post. Will be more
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
http://www.focus.it/scienza/dove-va-l-e-cat-e-la-risposta-di-rossi-alla-proposta-di-celani-1203_C12.aspx
That link is interesting but hard to follow. We could use help from the
resident Italian speakers. The related links
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote:
I think you misunderstood, I was referring to Rothwell's examples
(radioactivity, fusors etc) as failures to provide practical energy, but
not scams. I was not referring to any of the examples on the web site,
which I
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
but it's a military research and I can't reveal any further detail, not
the name, nor the place, nor the nationality of the customer».
How convenient. How about telling us one about which details can be
revealed. Like who
Sorry. I see someone else posted the English versions. That came up after
I wrote my post.
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
He's already said that deliveries to new customers will be in 2 months ...
and that he's fully booked (ie 12 more for this one).
Sorry but where does he say that. I missed it. Is there a link please?
OK. So we wait two
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
And how long are you willing to wait after the two months when no
independent testing is revealed and no independent customer comes
forward?
So
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Craig Brown cr...@overunity.co wrote:
I recently contacted DECC (UK equivalent of DoE) to get their view on what
they thought about the ecat, and to see if they had even heard of it. I
got quite an interesting reply. Trigger for further action is an
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 8:58 PM, Craig Brown cr...@overunity.co wrote:
Pseudosceptics is a better term to be honest. The ones who dispaly bizarre
behaviour. Like how they are obsessed with protecting the financial
interests of investers whom they've never met and are overtly concerned
with
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 11:04 PM, Marcello Vitale mvit...@ucsbalum.netwrote:
Rich, are you talking about Mary and those who, like her, keep saying they
KNOW what is going on despite lacking all knowledge, experience,
understanding, skill, intuition...? :-
Marcello, I asked you
I agree, the moon-landing requires some trust, because there is no way for
us to witness it directly.
Maybe. But if you've seen a Saturn V launch, as have hundreds of thousands
if not millions, you have to be impressed that some considerable chunk of
mass is traveling very fast moonward. And
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 4:34 AM, Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.comwrote:
Anyway, it will be very interesting history written when all the
background connections are exposed and investigated. I would say that
poor Steven the Snake...
What do you find wrong with Krivit's summary?
Perhaps discussing the NI logo on Rossi equipment is premature. NI has
made a couple of statements and none says Rossi will get an NI logo. IIRC,
the whole idea came from Sterling Allan -- the guy who links his web site
to stories about cars than use water as the only fuel and about Obama going
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 5:59 AM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
The pseudoskeptics are basically saying ...
You lost me before the incredibly convoluted prose -- at pseudoskeptics.
There is every reason to view Rossi's claims skeptically.
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 8:30 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.examiner.com/unexplained-phenomena-in-national/ufo-allegedly-spotted-following-us-military-airplane-video
Well, it *is* a plane; but, what is that object following it? It
almost looks like it is being towed
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 8:32 AM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
You will break your keyboard.
Thank you for your concern.
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.comwrote:
**
Now, I'd agree that believing in BLP requires a certain level of trust
This string isn't about BLP but BLP has a lot of the hallmarks of a scam.
It could also be a delusion and I suppose there is a still a
If Rossi prevails, Krivit will certainly look bad, and so will the entire
scientific establishment.
I disagree. With the present evidence, there is every reason to be
skeptical of Rossi. And Krivit is responding properly to the facts
presented to him. If Rossi's claims are real, he's done
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 9:03 AM, Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.comwrote:
Steven the Snake wrote:
1. Rossi has publicly told all his fans that he will not ask for money
until he has a
product for sale. 2. They believed him and propagated this information
widely but it is not true.
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 9:03 AM, Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.comwrote:
4. Rossi asked an engineer at NASA on July 22, 2011, for $15 million to
“test” his
device. NASA did not pay Rossi anything.
Should have paid. And also it was to be deposed in escrow account. Not
for Rossi.
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
If Rossi prevails, Krivit will certainly look bad, and so will the entire
scientific establishment.
That's true. The skepticism of Rossi
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.comwrote:
Mary:
ALL of that is gone if a blank test with an electrical heater gives the
correct result at
the output measurement end. Rossi knows that -- he's been told many
times by
probably dozens of people. That
I need to add that a calibration run with an electrical heater supplying
all the heat also provides very valuable information about the heat
capacity and time constant of the system. And finally, if hydrogen (but
nothing else) is omitted for the blank run, any chemical reaction or other
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:46 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
The heater is hidden within the heat sink device is close contact with the
core.
On the original E-cat with the copper tubing, the main heater is a standard
industrial unit strapped around the outer tube. As such, it
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Berke Durak berke.du...@gmail.com wrote:
Genset output was 66 kWh ie 238 MJ.
How do we know the genset output? It's probably capable of 8x that much.
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.comwrote:
There are actually some technical difficulties with a blank run in the
Rossi E-cat.
Wet cold fusion researchers sometimes have used H2O in a blank run, and
compared evolved heat using D2O with the blank output. If
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.comwrote:
2011/11/16 Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com:
The purpose of a blank/calibration run, I say *again*, is to validate the
measuring method and equipment. I know of no other iron clad way to do
that. Without
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote:
Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote:
The trouble is that H2(gas)+Ni(powder) reacts exothermically, as the
hydrogen is adsorbed onto the nickel. This means that a blank run using,
say, nitrogen in place of
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Mary Yugo wrote:
Or maybe cold fusion has yet to be properly demonstrated and the sincere
researchers are looking at errors and noise.
You can only believe that if you refuse to look at the data, or if you do
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.comwrote:
**
I don't really see an exothermic reaction with hydrogen as a problem. The
error would be in favor of Rossi and I am happy to accept it if (and only
if) he runs so long that it's accounted for...
Oh get real. You
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
We should call this the Mary Yugo school of logic. That which cannot be
tested or falsified must be true.
Straw man as well as unfair and wrong. Doesn't suit you.
ECAT.com interviews Mats Lewan
I don't think I would call it an interview. It's a monologue. And a not
very good one at that.
http://ecat.com/ecat-videos/ecat-com-interviews-mats-lewan
Google translate is difficult -- maybe we have an Italian speaker here?
As I read it (badly in translation) it seems Stremmenos is saying he can't
understand why U of B won't proceed to test Rossi's machine without being
given money. I wonder he realizes they probably haven't been given an
E-cat
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 5:02 PM, Akira Shirakawa
shirakawa.ak...@gmail.comwrote:
So yes, it appears to me he is upset at the U of Bologna.
By the way, Stremmenos writes in difficult Italian, even for native
speakers.
Cheers,
S.A.
Thanks, SA. I think he's Greek which may explain the
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.comwrote:
**
On 11-11-16 06:16 PM, Mary Yugo wrote:
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.comwrote:
I don't really see an exothermic reaction with hydrogen as a problem.
The error would
Before you go, if you have a moment, did I answer your objection to the
blank test understandably (if not satisfactorily). I want to be sure I
didn't misunderstand you (again).
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
4. Rossi purges the core, eg with air or Nitrogen, until there is a very
small chance of hydrogen being left.
That can be hard to do, and really hard to know if you have
From ecatnews.com:
Today the site looks reasonably professional, having had a makeover and
now claims to be the first site in the world to be taking offical orders
for Rossi’s eCat technology. Upon subscribing to their newsletter, the
confirmation email conatins the following address:
ECAT.COM
The news release promises a full outline of our development within 2
weeks. That may be interesting, especially the third party testing.
To prove the concept I think you do not have to give money you can
privately show interest in giving money to support Rossi's endeavors.
I think it would be difficult -- Rossi will be suspicious if he doesn't
know you or has not heard of you. Jed noted that several scheduled demos
including
Mailing lists are different from forums. Mailing lists are
essentially remailers; however, certain TCP/IP information is
available in a remailer which increases the visibility of the author.
Information on the author can be obtained without having to resort to
a court subpoena.
They are
For example, Brian Josephson got his Nobel from an idea that he got when
he was around 21 years old. Currently he is researching telepathy and yet
people listen Brian because and only because he has won a Nobel
prize. Clearly it does not follow logically that Brian is smart because he
has a
BLP has been going for 20 years, and has collected 60M dollars, all
without delivering on any promises. Seems like Rossi's role model.
Yup. People like Mark Goldes, Bedini, Dennis Lee, Jeff Otto, Steorn,
Bearden, the remote viewers, the magnetic free energy motor makers, and
basically all
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 7:03 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
Peter, Rossi may have given Allan too much poetic freedom. Rossi is a
busy man and apparently does not have time to critic the site as well as he
would like.
Maybe. But you'd think someone with a cold fusion reactor
The pseudoskeptics continually assert that their criticism of those who
are investigating Rossi's claims has nothing to do with whether Pons and
Fleischmann had any validity to their claims. This rhetorical maneuver
denies the obvious Bayesian law of prior probability distribution: If
PF's
His October 6 demo featured a much larger and heavier device which was
poorly inspected and had a lower power density than ever before.
What do you mean by that? The power was 8 kW nominal. That is considerably
higher than some previous demonstrations. The cell was no bigger than
before.
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 7:53 AM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
Can't you just ban this noise-box, Jed?
I don't mind because it helps make my case about some believers but is
this not against the rules? Just curious. No need to bother. He makes
himself look bad. Hey James, try
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 7:49 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
The homeopaths never do the experiment even in the face of a million
dollar standing prize from James Randi if someone can simply differentiate
a properly made homeopathic
We don't even know what the cell looked like. Rossi did not show it. All
we saw was a large machine and inside was another box with some fins. Did
I miss something?
Yes, you did miss something. The box with fins was the cell. But I suspect
you knew that. Please do not play games -- if
If it was the cell, isn't it much larger than previous cells? A factor
of three or more larger?
No, about the same. Plus there are three cells in this one. There is about
the same amount of active Ni catalyst. That is the only meaningful ratio.
The mass or volume of other stuff such as
-He can use more reactant because he has better control.
It's just a niggle but I don't think, other than from what Rossi says, we
have any sure understanding of how he even purports to control the device.
While we're on that subject, why is a safety heater needed in a highly
exothermic
Inventing new technology is never easy, and it never goes according to
plan. People who think Rossi and Defkalion are faking or fooling around
because they are late and their devices produce only 470 kW instead of 1 MW
know nothing about history, and nothing about technology. Only 470 kW is
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
Owners yes. Users no.
And MAC address?
I don't want to belabor this but how would you correlate a MAC address with
a particular owner OR user? Without a subpoena or court order? Far as I
know the information is not
Did N come from Rossi or from Sterling Allan and Hank Mills? If the
latter, you should not consider it for a moment.
, including grody old
Evolution, and even Emacs V-mail mode, will do this for you. It's really
kind of annoying that you never say whom you're quoting.
On 11-11-15 05:11 PM, Mary Yugo wrote:
[A mysterious stranger asserted:]
Inventing new technology .
The principal reason
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.dewrote:
Independent test is difficult for him, because the observers can do
disallowed tests like measuring the gamma spectra.
It is not required. I understand that he does not want this.
Maybe I missed it but I don't think
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Oh come now. You know perfectly well there is a good reason for not
telling people this sort of thing. This information is worth a trillion
dollars. If he has not filed a patent application, and he goes around
telling
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.dewrote:
If they use special sensors and go into the water pipes or into the thermo
element opening or into the steam outlet they might be able to measure it
inside the shielding - if it exists.
They could also put sensitive
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
If I knew something worth a vast fortune, I'd consult with the best
possible people about how to protect it. I'd pay them well and do what they
said to.
How do you know Rossi
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 6:19 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
... but all of his choices seem risky. ...
But that's the thing. They are not. Performing a completely thorough
test, as Rossi was advised to do, is not risky even in public. Certainly
it is not as risky as a sale.
So let’s show a little more appreciation and compassion toward the guy
that got the ball rolling. His business plans might cause him to be
eclipsed by a more professional organization now that the door has been
cracked open but I will always remember what Mr. Rossi has accomplished no
Well, considering Defkalion claimed to be setting up for making hundreds of
Hyperions per year in the first quarter of next year, and claimed without
evidence that they had submitted applications to the Greek authorities for
permits to test and sell the devices, this is pretty disappointing.
My
All of the doubts are from the peanut gallery on the Internet, especially
people such as Mary Yugo. She says she knows nothing about cold fusion, so
obviously she cannot judge. Asking her to evaluate this would be like
asking me to review a performance of the Metropolitan Opera. I do not know
Re Mary Yugo, I am reading only what she tells about Rossi and the E-cat,
not LENR or CF.
Simple and completely correct. Proof of Rossi has nothing to do with LENR
or CF. Thanks, Peter
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 11:43 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
I have followed your suggestions for several months now. You have made
the point that Defkalion should show you anything at all. Why do you now
argue about them fulfilling your request? You should be satisfied.
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
You seem to believe that Rossi owes you an explanation. He dislikes you
intenslyas a member of the chattering class and will not be affected by
your demands for proof.
Rossi will cooperate with his cu stomers up to a
Whatever they do, you will demand more, and more, and more. You will move
the goalposts down the field, out of the stadium, out of the parking lot .
. .
I am asking the same I always asked. They provided one tiny part of it.
And a very weak one.
They announced they will soon provide more
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 12:25 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
I refer to your posts on the Defkalion site. You repeated a million times
(maybe a few less) that they should show you anything at all. That was
your desire for many posts and now they have done what you requested.
Both Rossi and Defkalion are doing their best to keep all the decision
making in their own hands and out of the hands of their propagandist
detractors.
Could you be kind enough to define propagandist detractors and how it
applies to the discussion of scientific claims? I can sort of guess
.
Oh, come now. The second photo, labeled Hyperion in assembly, is
actually quite sharp
It's low resolution, nothing's labeled, nothing's explained, and, if the
thing really is in assembly, then the reason it's already hooked up to a
big blue gas-tank-looking thing is not entirely clear,
I suspect he practices misdirection ...
We agree. I think his entire performance at the demos consists mostly of
misdirection.
Many companies do have factories, so this claim is not extravagant. It is
quite the normal thing for an industrial company to have a factory.
Yes it is but most factories have addresses you can check and visit. And
very few, last I looked, make NUCLEAR FUSION REACTORS. And even fewer of
My apologies : I was confusing you with Stella_Nokia (eg on Defkalion).
No worries.
For what it's worth, I can assure you I am not she. Stella_Nokia is
another pseudonym for the person who writes more often as Alsetalokin and
Tinsel Koala. He's someone who's worked in physics and
You're the only one. who enjoys your sarcastic put-down-type humor.
You even call it humor.
I think you're such a staunch believer that your feelings get hurt when
anyone suggests Rossi may be scamming and makes fun of him. Others have
written me privately to approve of the humor and have
Granted that Rossi is producing anomalous heat, nevertheless absolutely
everything else about this story stinks to high heaven. The conundrum which
nobody can decipher is why someone with a real effect, or a scammer, would
operate in such a bizarre manner. The only conclusion left is that the
Except the fundamental physics, and the fact that a 30 L poorly insulated
vessel of water cannot stay at boiling temperature for 4 hours.
I disagree that the large E-cat module was ever properly inspected. For
sure, nobody saw what was inside the finned rectangular portion in the
interior.
I'd be interested in running a gig PA with that smaller generator of his.
Then I'd know it's all useful. I still can't believe that none of these
people ever organize a plug your phone in here to charge it type
demonstrations. It's always good to have them do something understandable,
some
You have the attitude of a hostile witness.
My unicorns make me testy. They're invisible and keep playing mean tricks
on me.
As far as I know, Stanley Meyer sincerely believed that his devices could
make energy from plain water.
How the heck does one flummox oneself into that conclusion? How long would
it take to test conclusively a purported device said to do that? A
minute? Less -- it would never be able to
It's pretty easy to scam a customer if you only sell one item and flee, if
you sell items so
cheaply that the duped find the cost of recovery higher than the value
recovered, or if the item sold is actually illegal. But selling large
industrial equipment to a
knowledgeable customer with a
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Esa Ruoho esaru...@gmail.com wrote:
mary yugo appeared on the Steorn forums and has never been supportive of
any exotic energy technology developer, company or anything.
this pseudonym is just a hater.
Most people now believe that Steorn was a scam. Are you
This test will not work. Cold fusion does not produce neutrons and it
seldom produces radiation. I have told you that before. If you do not
believe me, please review the literature on your own.
Well that's inconvenient, isn't it? So we just look for anomalous heat
and nothing else?
No,
Did I get the wrong guy? Who measured the dryness of steam with a Testo
HVAC meter? Thanks for any correction.
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 7:10 AM, Michele Comitini
michele.comit...@gmail.com wrote:
2011/11/13 Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com:
The issue isn't only or even mainly the instruments
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.comwrote:
No time to study the literature but time to nagger and flood forums all
day with messages.
I have time to study about Rossi and directly related writings. I don't
have time to read the thousands of seemingly
If you don't read the literature, you won't be able to tell apart what is
logical to what is illogical.
I disagree. Rossi's claim is different from most of the others in cold
fusion because it is so extravagant -- I mean come on! A megawatt for six
months on a handful of inexpensive fuel?
It's also possible that cold fusion occurs in nature, and through the
eons, the copper we see around us is the product of the same reaction.
What reaction is that?
Wooops. Even Rossi can't stand those guys any more, LOL.
From: “Andrea Rossi – Leonardo Corp.” info@…
To: “Sterling Allan” sterlingda@…
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: temporary notice posted
Sterling, please: all the website is not approved, please take out
from the net
What is this drivel?
An attempt at humor. Sorry it didn't rattle your funny bone!
Latest Rossi-ism:
- Andrea Rossi
November 12th, 2011 at 8:57
AMhttp://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=510cpage=32#comment-117146
WARNING: THE WEBSITE
http://WWW.LEONARDO-ECAT.COMhttp://www.leonardo-ecat.com/IS NOT OUR
WEBSITE. IT HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED, IT IS A DRAFT OF A
You seem to be suggesting that there is something fundamentally different
about Rossi's Ni nanopowder compared to the nanopowder cells of Arata and
Miles, or the Ni cells of Patterson or Piantelli. I do not see any gigantic
differences. The claims seem mutually supportive to me, and to
In Allan's case he performed no crime other than simply reporting on the
alleged Obama event. IMHO, Allan showed professionalism by NOT adding his
own personal thoughts and personal beliefs on the matter.
So let's see. If I send a report to Allan about my pink, invisible, flying
unicorns that
fusion
I cannot understand this attitude that Rossi should do whatever *you* say,
or Mary Yugo says, even though what you want him to do would ruin his
business. I wish he would do as I say only because I think it would be
bring him more money, and it would bring cold fusion to the world more
Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
The upper pipe was not measured and had no (visible) control mechanism.
If the final customer was not aware about this possibility, he could have
been fooled.
How long would the customer be fooled? No corporation would give Rossi $2
million
Whoopee. I have to rush to put up an order form for my pink, invisible
flying unicorns that make free energy. When you can name and preferably
interview a customer, that sort of news will become interesting.
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Michele Comitini
michele.comit...@gmail.com wrote:
Of course Mr Rossi won't let anyone look inside the eCat : until he has
world-wide patents he must protect it as a trade secret. But he has invited
several teams of scientists to conduct calorimetric tests to measure the
excess energy, using their own instruments. In particular, Lewan brought
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