-Original Message-
From: Ron Wormus
> So what causes the "electromigration"? As far as I can see all he has in
> there are some resistive heaters.
Ron - Possibly it could be related to either low level magnetic fields or emf
associated with the heaters, or else galvanic corrosion bet
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton
Well. The one problem is that the paper is not accessible except by fee.
Copyrights and all that. You can read the abstract
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/la981339q
Romanowski is a nickel alloy expert. This finding is not new but was
generally
It looks to me like the water inlet goes through the center of the reactor.
This would likely be a copper pipe along the axis, surrounded by the nickel
powder. Copper ions would immediately start to migrate when heat was applied
to the outside of the reactor. Did you enlarge the pictures? There is
high external pressure, especially with pressurized water flowing
through it.
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
> It looks to me like the water inlet goes through the center of the
reactor.
> This would likely be a copper pipe
Here is Rossi's next stunt :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W46UMzFEU24
As you know he is a miracle worker, except for one little detail ...
He DECREASES the volume of a miracle reactor by a factor of 20 and the heat
only goes down by a factor of 3. And he is just noticing this! LOL.
More Ross
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton
> So what is his endgame?
Well, if he really has made a great discovery, as we all hope - then the
latest stunt with the small ghetto-quality versions is probably to protect
the secret for as long as possible by misdirection.
That would be by show
here is just something at the atomic level that is required and we just
don't know how to
make it consistently.
Dennis
------
From: "Jones Beene"
> -Original Message-
> From: Terry Blanton
>
>> So what is his end
Something very fishy-smelling here ...
You DECREASE the volume by a factor of 20 and the heat only goes down by a
factor of 3. And he is just noticing this! LOL.
More Rossi BS - let's face it, this guy is deceptive, and could be
delusional. He is trying to hide something by this kind of publicity
From: Jay Caplan
Hi Jay,
*
* If this thing is actually working at 60 - 100 C., then solder should
hold.
It is running much hotter than that. There is plenty of evidence that he
could be using high temperature ("hard" or silver) brazing. Wide lap joints
and the 'crud' on the outs
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton
> Well, while I be dissin' . . .
> Doesn't Prof. Levi remind you of Exeter?
Probably coincidental, but Rossi's New Hampshire facility is walking
distance from Exeter ... which does not mean that I been spyin'.
Yup. This is creepy!
This must be exactly the time frame when Rossi's and his assistant came back
from the future :)
Next stop Bandera. Notice the Italian-American names. Isn't that conclusive!
Jones
Note to non-regular readers of vortex: Every once in a while, a few of the
regular posters he
-Original Message-
From: Craig Haynie
>Probably coincidental, but Rossi's New Hampshire facility is walking
> distance from Exeter ... which does not mean that I been spyin'.
Actually, no. It's in Bedford, which is within walking distance of me, but
Exeter is about 45 minutes by car.
C
Speaking of CETI and Patterson, did you know that besides nickel and palladium
coating the beads, JP used copper chloride to initially treat them? This is in
the recipe that turned up after his death.
This copper molecule was used for a completely different reason, ostensibly;
and since it was
The obvious candidate would be his previous sugar daddy, doncha think?
Micrograms, actually. Perhaps you only need a few atoms thickness on the
nickel surface.
In fact it might work better that way, since the monatomic hydrogen splits
and "keeps on going" into the interstices a few atoms down, where it
densifies ...
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg43874.html
From: Jed Rothwell
The obvious candidate would be his previous sugar daddy, doncha think?
WHO would that be, dare I ask?
- Jed
As you may have figured out by now, "constantan" is a copper-nickel alloy of
unusual properties, whose main feature is its constant resistivity over a
wide range of temperatures. "Constant" being the operative eponym.
In addition to the high catalytic energy, it is fair to ask: what is it
about th
The Rossi patent application has two x-ray spectrograms. Although they could
have been altered, these have been analyzed by comparison with known
spectral wavelengths. The elements identified by this method include Ni, Sn,
Zn, Cu, Zr, and others. Notably, no chromium is seen.
Copper with tin is br
Hmmm ... the model also seems to address "cluster hydrogen" which is a
surprise
http://books.google.com/books?id=7E6CqqLCLdYC&pg=PA61&dq=Brightsen+cluster+h
ydrogen&hl=en&ei=BHagTZvuLJHKiAKPysTfCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum
=1&ved=0CDUQ6AEwAA
-Original Message-
From: Terry Bl
Yes it makes no sense at all.
More likely is that the Forcardi information is mistaken.
The Swedes found there was no ratio difference using a proper technique, and
the technique use by Focardi is questionable for isotope determination.
Caveat: I have no expertise in this and am passing along
al Message-----
From: Jones Beene
Yes it makes no sense at all.
More likely is that the Forcardi information is mistaken.
The Swedes found there was no ratio difference using a proper technique, and
the technique use by Focardi is questionable for isotope determination.
Caveat: I have no expertise i
d as the 'secret' catalyst, or it may have been inadvertent - from
reactor contamination.
The hydrino is not my personal favorite hypothesis, but in a few months, you
may hear "I could'a been a contender" coming from a lot of pundits ... and
maybe from Rossi himself.
Jones
From: Jed Rothwell wrote:
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg43874.html
* LTI in Ohio.
* No, he said it is a major company. Wouldn't it be marvelous if it is a
Fortune 500?
* If it is a big, well-known national company that makes the business pages
then I'm going to hav
The original 1997 patent filing by Mills was never granted, which allows him
to periodically update it as a "continuation-in-part".
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2009/0129992.html
"This is a continuation-in-part of co-pending application Ser. No.
09/009,294, filed Jan. 20, 1998. The priority
It's complete BS.
He's probably a teenager, if he's friends with MF's granddaughter.
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton
Stanley Meyer?!? OMG! Does Mr. Duckworth believe the poisoning myth?
I guess if you can't spell da Vinci, you can't be expected to spell
Fleischmann.
T
Jed
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton
Axil Axil wrote:
>> All this supports my contention that iron in the form of an X2O3 oxide
>> forms the site of the active nuclear component in the Rossi catalyst.
> So the secret is rust?
Is your last name Foley, by chance? :-)
Don't laugh a
From: Axil Axil
* 316L stainless steel has 18% chromium and 65% iron more or less. If the
process was a mechanical based sputtering process then 2.7 % chromium
contamination should have been found in the ash and this chromium would have
still been alloyed with the iron.
What could have puri
There is a logical way to resolve most of the question concerning the
stainless vs. copper alloy debate - in terms of the Rossi extended history.
After all - he says that he has build thousands of reactors over the last
5-6 years.
Even if that translates to "several dozen" it is completely possi
From: noone noone
Dear Mr Mattias Carlsson:
Yes, we do.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
ROSSI ENRICHES HIS NICKEL!
Now, does this tell us anything about the type of catalyst he uses?
No – but it tells us volumes about someone’s basic honesty, doesn’t it ?
At least when you place this informati
From: Jed Rothwell
HE DOES NOT WANT REPLICATION - how obvious that is by now.
* It is obvious because he has said it, clearly, many times. He does
sometimes make himself clear.
Baloney. Where did he say this?
Bologna?
* I don't see anything untoward about it. Of course he doesn
It can be argued that the 'Reifenschweiler effect' is one of the great
unsolved mysteries of physics.
In terms of real applications and commerce, it is probably FAR more
important to our future wealth and happiness than the Higgs boson, the
darling of the mainstream - especially if the knowledge
Say "noone noone" . are you the Malloy character who was here a few years
ago, and could add little more than far-right rhetoric to any science
discussion?
Why should we care how furious a noone with noinsight to these issues, gets?
What's you real purpose on vortex - the next election?
ide
behind a fictitious name, there is a reason …
Jones
_
From: Jones Beene
Say “noone noone” … are you the Malloy character who was here a few years ago,
and could add little more than far-right rhetoric to any science discussion?
Why should we care how furious a noone w
From: Dennis
The answer, of course, is for him to have a patent application that fully
discloses his invention so that others "skilled in the art" can duplicate
his results. If he just submitted an application that would avoid "undo
experimentation" then there would be no problem with getting
Jeff Driscoll may have posted this Blacklight Power link earlier without
comment. It could relate to Rossi, but in a negative way.
http://www.blacklightpower.com/papers/Eng%20Power050410S.pdf
This is the first time that I have noticed how the new Mills' reactor scheme
could be similar to the R
http://www.scribd.com/doc/52869096/Steorn-B10-20110411
Sean - the chief pub crawler at Steorn seems to have heard the 'last call'
-Original Message-
From: mix...@bigpond.com
In reply to Jones Beene's message:
>This is the first time that I have noticed how the new Mills' reactor
scheme
>could be similar to the Rossi device, in two ways - either of which may end
>up in court, eventually. Let's hope not. But as Appl
Correction: (important correction)
> I should add that the regeneration step requires more heat than is
produced
in the exothermic step
Meant to say "higher peak temperature" instead of "more heat"
...in effect, only one or two of the five heaters would be active at any
time, and these are used
The US may never face the kind of (natural + technological) tragedy that
Japan has suffered recently, but nature alone is poised to do far more harm
on her own. That would be our ticking time bomb - a supervolcano which is
poised to create 10,000 times more damage than any Tsunami.
http://www.oura
This time next year - if a delayed Rossi demo has finally taken place by
then (amidst all of the predictable angst from the LENR continent). then .
in addition to the "me-too" group, who claim to be co-inventors, and the
other pretenders who come crawling out of the woodwork like Bob Park and his
p
By the numbers:
1)Start with five linked Mills reactors, or one Rossi E-Cat, divided
into 5 segments with programmable controllers.
2)Heat the segments in delayed steps up to a trigger temperature using
electrical input energy. At this point, a positive feedback loop is
established
Horace
* Jones, it's good to hear someone talk that way! Did you finally read my
paper?
I read your paper some time ago and may have commented on it when you were
"off air" but this is not easy stuff to grasp. The quark connection could
materialize in other ways too, but you deserve t
Horace,
Not problematic at all! That is exactly what my theory predicts. The
energy deficits of deflation fusion prevent isomers form forming and thus
(large) gammas. The combination of strong force reactions with large energy
deficits followed by weak reactions when feasible makes for non-
Horace
Let's look at 58Ni specifically which is over 2/3 of all nickel
* The energy deficits for Ni are all huge. For example (energy deficits in
square brackets):
58Ni28 + p* --> 59Cu29 * + 3.419 MeV [-6.329 MeV] --> 59Ni28 + neutrino +
~2.6 MeV
Ok, as I interpret your theory, p
Thanks for the explication. I was not aware that an electron could be
trapped like that, but as you say - everyone looks at the shadows on the
cave wall from a different perspective.
-Original Message-
From: Horace Heffner
> How does a fast electron not produce gamma radiation?
Keep in
Not sure if this helps or not, but many metal oxide surfaces present a
"Lawandy-type" dielectric for accumulation of ultra dense hydrogen IRH. This
has been seen on zirconia, iron-oxide and nickel-oxide. This paper by Miley
is very important.
www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MileyGHclusterswi.pdf
-Original Message-
From: mix...@bigpond.com
> Aluminum foil will stop beta radiation (and look how thin it is).
Sure - and stopping the electron produces bremsstrahlung - easily detected,
and you seem to be underestimating the capability of detectors.
> Fast electrons are not very pen
Robin,
Very little ??? No way !!!
You and Horace seem to making the same error with the 59Ni situation in
cherry picking data. LOTS of copper was seen in the Swedish test. An
incredible percentage, since Rossi says no copper is added.
We're talking grams of copper converted from nickel, if Rossi
Robin FYI,
> If you look at http://atom.kaeri.re.kr/cgi-bin/decay?Ni-59%20EC you will
see
that the decay of Ni-59 involves electron capture
Correct - as I had already mentioned.
> (with no visible signature because the energy is all carried by the
neutrino) 6.3 times out of 10. The rema
Isn't it ironic in a way, since you have said before that Arata shares a
similar level of vanity ?
Arata probably considers himself the father of nanoparticle LENR . without
which, Ni-H might not be possible.
. so who's you daddy ?
From: Jed Rothwell
"So there were two parallel lines
Horace's comments indicate that a lot of overlapping R&D from many sources
can be relevant to LENR, even without Arata's work being specifically
featured.
BTW - Takahashi made a presentation on his Arata replications at the
American Chemical Society meeting in Anaheim CA recently (last month).
Horace
An immediate response is this: if that if two deflated protons can get
together in such a way as in the second reaction - then why would they not
simply emerge as deuterium most of the time? i.e. a deflated version of
P-e-P ?
You tend to subscribe to Ockham more than me, so why not go wi
ted by the deflation, allowing a
greatly enhanced rate.
Warm and sunny regards,
Dr. Pepper
-----Original Message-
From: Jones Beene
Horace
An immediate response is this: if that if two deflated protons can get
together in such a way as in the second reaction - then why would they not
s
euterium, and this provides the falsifiability.
-Original Message-
From: Jones Beene
There could be a reason why Horace's deflated fusion model doesn't work with
only hydrogen- IOW a version of the proton fusion reaction - leading to
deuterium; BUT if it can fit, then it provide
Horace,
> Proton pairs don't bind by the strong force, so this eliminates the
prospect for the follow-on weak reaction, at least at readily
observable levels.
Well - They can bind for an indeterminate period, according to Nyman.
http://dipole.se/
Go down to "Strong Force between Two Prot
From: Mattia Rizzi
> the isotopic ratios begin to resolve around a natural distribution
This is non-sense. A nuclear reaction should produce non-natural
distributions.
Yes. It is clear from the Swedish analysis that this is CANNOT be a nuclear
of reaction of nickel at all.
N
Steven - the simulation does not go there.
It is too complicated for me to say if the simulation is accurate or not. I
like it, and have not found anything obviously wrong with it yet. Everyone
interprets the shadows on Plato's cave in their own way
If one doesn't mind admitting that he is,
Yes. Do not delete this ! It is important.
Add this one to the growing 'contradictions' list, because I am sure that at
one time he said he can operate the device for a period of time with no
electrical input.
How can it then be possible to shut down automatically with no current
unless you flush
it is still a contradiction.
-Original Message-
From: SHIRAKAWA Akira
On 2011-04-16 01:36, Jones Beene wrote:
> Yes. Do not delete this ! It is important.
>
> Add this one to the growing 'contradictions' list, because I am sure that
at
> one time he said he can operate
Our sun is a second (or third) generation star. The previous supernova which
created all of the elements and isotope balances that are found on earth,
are the products of a certain starting mass, age, temperature, and other
variables that existed billions of years ago. These influenced that prior
N
Wait a minute. You want to change half the Standard Model of Physics in
order to suggest that Rossi's device has some tiny chance of being
theoretically possible in the oddball way that he thinks it is - when we're
not even sure that it's not a total scam?
... now that is true devotion to a cause
Axil, Apparently you failed to read or understand Peters comment.
ONCE AGAIN, IRON OXIDE IS REDUCED IN HOT HYDROGEN.
It is that simple. There is no Fe2O3 at least not in pressurized hydrogen
at this temperature. There can be metallic iron present, and yes, Fe was
seen in the Swedish repo
Dear Frank Z,
I wish you all the luck that you have coming from you tireless efforts to
promote MHz-M, and you will need it.
More than that, is there a way to waste my waist, or is that another issue?
BTW, in what precise way does megahertz-meter predict the Rossi effect?
J.
-Original Me
Horace,
I'm glad that the post got through, because it is exactly on target.
If the steam was wet, then the result might yet still be OU, or not, but why
not wait to pass judgment until it is done correctly?
-Original Message-
From: Horace Heffner
This is the third attempt to transmi
Fran,
* Harry, I think it is more a matter of proving how the Casimir environment
is equivalent to the stellar environment.
Which stellar environment?
There are literally trillions of different stellar environments, all of them
unique because the mass of the predecessor star is uniqu
Axil,
*
* Loading hydrogen into Rust does not produce nuclear derived heat.
Correct - it produce iron and water. I do not see Fe2O3 specifically as
being involved at all in Rossi.
FeO - however, when fully supported (shared oxygen) does make sense - but
not Fe2O3. After all, the
y Nuclear Synthesis in the
Universe and a Quark Relation to the Magic Numbers "
It is not Axil's theory, but one produced by Mille that I think most fits
the facts.
On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
Fran,
* Harry, I think it is more a matter of proving h
11 at 5:31 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
Wow. I can see that science is a completely new field for you.
Your take on this paper is bizarre and so removed from reality that I have
to ask - what is your real profession?
This report is about magic numbers, which are tendencies. There is
absolutely
Hey Alan,
All this talk about ways to fake the Rossi experiment got me to thinking
about a clever way which may not have been mentioned - or maybe I overlooked
it if it was covered already.
Was hydrogen peroxide mentioned? And/or did anyone actually *taste the
water* in the first test ?
BTW I d
In the category of clear water-based liquids which burn cleanly enough to be
used indoors, and which could be confused with water in a testing
arrangement (since it would be so unexpected as the 'trick' used to pull-off
the deception) - there are several choices.
These are miscible and with 40
Considerably less than the $100 million Euros that a Greek investor might be
willing to advance ..
From: Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote:
In the category of clear water-based liquids which burn cleanly enough to be
used indoors, and which could be confused with water in a testing
://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN_hgt4InyI
From: Jones Beene
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Clear, odorless, water-based & combustible
Considerably less than the $100 million Euros that a Greek investor might be
willing to advance ..
From: Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote:
In the category of c
ever after
From: Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote:
Considerably less than the $100 million Euros that a Greek investor might be
willing to advance
.
Ha, ha. And how would this work now that they are testing it in Rossi's
absence? I imagine they will notice. Surely the h
tually get the device into a more robust range than his
fall-back gain (COP = ~4)
16) Everyone lives happily ever after
From: Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote:
Considerably less than the $100 million Euros that a Greek investor might be
willing to advance ..
Ha, ha. And how would
Peter,
An authority to contact for anyone interested in the safety issues would be
the "Swiss Rocket Man" - since he puts his life on the line with this stuff
daily. It is very dangerous at full strength but less so when diluted.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yves_Rossy
Notice his name i
From: Jed Rothwell
*
* In real life, this scenario cannot be squared with the fact that tests at
U. Bologna are continuing, and units will probably be delivered to
universities in Sweden.
That is why we have NDAs, and you can bet your bottom dollar that everyone
involved have signe
From: Jed Rothwell
JR: In real life, this scenario cannot be squared with the fact that tests
at U. Bologna are continuing, and units will probably be delivered to
universities in Sweden.
JB: That is why we have NDAs, and you can bet your bottom dollar that
everyone involved have signed
From: Jed Rothwell
* Okay, so in the Feb. 10 test, input was 80 W and output was not 16 kW or
130 kW but 320 W (4 times input)
It is a mistake to conflate the two tests. Both have their own separate
problems. This is not new to Jed, and there is no reason to repeat the
details of the pro
draw in more needed
funding and more scientists trying to replicate.
Jones
From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 9:50 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:Heat transfer in a water heater and nuclear plant
Jones Beene reports that it may be
-Original Message-
From: OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
> In the meantime, I suspect Mr. Beene will probably not find Mr.
Rothwell's analysis convincing, and I fully expect a counter response.
Wow - I realize that this Rossi device could be the most important development
in Energy for s
From: Jed Rothwell
* Similar stainless steel surfaces in teapots transfer heat at roughly this
rate without difficulty.
Nonsense. Water going thru the Rossi reactor is in contact with the reactor
only for milliseconds ! A teapot takes minutes to boil.
. or even longer, if you are wat
From: Jed Rothwell
* As I said, the reactor transfers 3 GW with 80,000 rods. That is
approximately 37.5 kW per rod. (Previously I estimated per liter of rod.)
That comes to 0.030 kW/cm^2. A liter-bottle shaped Rossi cell putting out
130 kW would be producing 0.216 kW/cm^2, an order of magnitu
Speaking of leaving it to experts, someone has written to me offline that
this very issue of heat transfer was covered at Chennai by NRL - and they
may have had similar reservations that this was even possible.
Weren't you there, and did they?
J.
* As I said, the reactor transfer
From: Jed Rothwell
Speaking of leaving it to experts, someone has written to me offlist that
this very issue of heat transfer was covered at Chennai by NRL - and they
may have had similar reservations that this was even possible.
Weren't you there, and did they?
* I was there, but I do not re
Well another thing that brings to mind is that the reactor vessel could be
emitting electrons (Edison effect) which perform electrolysis on the
coolant. That could perhaps get extra heat into the water to boost
convective or radiative transfer.
I don't know understand why there seems to be such re
One connection to a magnetic field could be to magnetostriction, which has
been mentioned recently and in the past. So many decent ideas are passing
through the forum nowadays, that a few good ones will be overlooked.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetostrictive
The effect is small but it
thermocouples instead of RTDs and datalogging LOL.
Enough of this nonsense we will resume this debate when we get expert
opinion, not dependent on second hand estimates and meaningless anecdote
a tempest in a teapot
and decaf to boot.
Jones
From: Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene
OK, There is only one way to end this kind of fruitless thread - and that
would be a small wager to be based on the upcoming tests in Sweden.
Let's see .
You say the COP is considerably over 30, based on first demo even though the
Feb testing was much higher, is that about right?
And
From: Jed Rothwell
* I don't bet. I debate technical issues based on experimental evidence,
not crackpot theories that predict water heaters don't work. If you will not
give us a plausible reason why this calorimetry might be wrong by a factor
of 1000 then you lose this debate.
This "1000
Baloney. Do you want to keep posting this crap, Rothwell?
You are completely exposed on this, and you will not get the last word in to
safe face - guaranteed
You said yourself the 130 kW was bogus - it is complete bogus, even if
second rate authors say otherwise
Jones
From: Jed R
This is hilarious and indicative of a child's playground mentality . did so,
did not, did so . ROTFL
- you said yourself, on the advice of your so-called expert, that the 130 kW
was BOGUS !!
So now are you reversing direction once again, hoping to save face by using
the data you already rej
up Jed, you lost an argument - get used to it
Jones
From: Jones Beene
Baloney. Do you want to keep posting this crap, Rothwell?
You are completely exposed on this, and you will not get the last word in to
safe face - guaranteed
You said yourself the 130 kW was bogus -
eel in an hour - and
Rothwell thinks it that it represents reality in a 5 kilo reactor, and yet
no steam was even seen !
Where is the sanity in that?
Give it up Jed, you lost an argument - get used to it.
Jones
From: Jones Beene
Baloney. Do you want to keep posting this cra
From: P.J van Noorden
I find it difficult to understand that in the Rossi reactor with a flow of
6l/h = about 2 ml/sec and a proposed excess energy of 12 kW no vapour
"explosions" are heard. I.m.o with such a low flow rate the water will reach
the boilingpoint before it reaches the end of th
Stephen
To answer the first problem - I believe that the specific heat goes up as
the temperature rises, and is a higher the closer you get to m.p.
* 130 KW for 15 minutes is actually 32.5 KWh.
Only if that heat suddenly comes to a dead stop and you average over the
hour ! Not likel
From: Stephen A. Lawrence
* Jones, who put such an angry bee in your bonnet over Rossi?
There is no anger - just disappointment that so many are jumping to
hyperbolic conclusions which are not justified by the record. And
disappointment that technology so potentially valuable [to society]
al property problems- not only patenting here.
How do you think about these?
Thanks!
Peter
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
From: Stephen A. Lawrence
* Jones, who put such an angry bee in your bonnet over Rossi?
There is no anger - just disappointment that so many
Thanks - Right you are.
I should have realized that SAL makes no math errors, and I am trying to
compose too many posts for one morning.
To bring the original point back into focus, then - let me restate that this
amount of thermal energy will melt 500 pounds of steel in an hour or 125
poun
-Original Message-
From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
> Heat transfer is limited by surface area, but the
"surface area" for a Rossi cell might be very
high. You cannot judge it by the gross volume.
What if the cell is constructed with many channels?
Not by the volume alone, correct. This is/
Dear Peter,
There are differences and similarities, true - but does it really make sense
that there could be two distinct processes of nickel and hydrogen, both of
which were previously unknown to physics?
Statistically, and to the skeptic, two improbable things happening with no
precedent
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