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On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 12:06 PM, John Berry wrote: > I have not seen the video, > You should. > Yes -- I should have watched it first. It does not look like parallax. It looks like a hoax. Eric

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On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 2:00 PM, James Bowery wrote: This big string also appears somewhere in our random > string, hence our random string is a perfect ToE. > This is the assumption I'm querying. I'm not saying it's incorrect, I'm just wondering whether it's certain that it is correct. Eric

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Sorry, I've only been skimming the posts in the thread. In the back of my mind I've been wondering how the two space rocks could be related even though they were headed in almost in opposite directions. Your talk of spacebased kinetic energy weapons got me thinkingIf a space rock fragments from

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On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 2:29 PM, James Bowery wrote: > Terry, if you want to invoke scifi space based kinetic energy weapons with > precise targeting, try "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" by Heinlein. Yeah, but they didn't call it "the foot". :-)

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Your interpretation of what I've written renders me speechless. On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: > So is it your thesis that the russian meteor was a fragment blown off > the larger meteor? > > Harry > > On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 2:29 PM, James Bowery wrote: > > Terry, if you

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So is it your thesis that the russian meteor was a fragment blown off the larger meteor? Harry On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 2:29 PM, James Bowery wrote: > Terry, if you want to invoke scifi space based kinetic energy weapons with > precise targeting, try "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" by Heinlein. >

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Terry, thanks for clearing it up. Whatever was steering that last meteoroid was a very bad driver. On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 2:29 PM, James Bowery wrote: > Terry, if you want to invoke scifi space based kinetic energy weapons with > precise targeting, try "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" by Heinle

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Terry, if you want to invoke scifi space based kinetic energy weapons with precise targeting, try "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" by Heinlein. In 1983, Heinlein and I actually came to logger heads, in person, over Gen Graham's abuse of the non-terrestrial materials concepts by O'Neill and Vajk. He

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Footfall

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"The message is simply this: We have sufficient control of the asteroid's little brother that you might be wise to consider the possibility that we have control of the asteroid." I would like our governments first to get a handle on identifying, tracking and redirecting/destroying them before the

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Actually, no, my theory is still that the mass for the kinetic energy weapon we saw over Russia was of non-terrestrial origin and this is consistent with Pike's claim that launch costs for "God's Rods" are too high. The economics of space-based civil engineering and industrialization, such as sola

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Wow, I guess I proved your theory and my homework is done! On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 12:54 PM, James Bowery wrote: > Oh now this is highly amusing. > > In response to my request for a single URL to an "internet government > conspiracy theory" that was more plausible than my theory of a classified

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Oh now this is highly amusing. In response to my request for a single URL to an "internet government conspiracy theory" that was more plausible than my theory of a classified military program based on widely acknowledged science, technology and economics, ChemE provided a link to a Popular Science

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Actually I have 300 pages of homework and research on my blog, I just did not submit it to you. I am actually beginning to like your theory though, unfortunately the evidence is locked deep within the government vaults along with other evidenced files such as: "The government killed Kennedy" "Oba

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The science, technology and even economics are all published in AIAA peer reviewed journals in papers whose arithmetic has withstood the test of decades. Limited by intellectual property rights, they are now openly advertised in the prospectus for Planetary Resources. What I'm talking about isn't

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" could actually keep secret a project that was on the order of a few tens of billions of dollars -- but there are reasons to believe this level of secrecy is within the capability of the military." Right, your theory is locked within secret government documents. Mine is open to falsify, with som

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Clearly the "generator" at the back end is meant to carry clubs. http://ut-images.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/msl.jpg On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 12:28 AM, Harry Veeder wrote: > Curiosity serves as his robotic caddy. > > On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 9:27 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: >> Do y

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Curiosity serves as his robotic caddy. On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 9:27 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > Do you think Obama played a round of golf while visiting Mars? >

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You've been trolling vortex-l with our dark matter rhetoric, shoehorning just about anything of mild interest without so much as a single calculation that could be peer reviewed that even in a post-hoc analysis could be seen as validating your rhetoric. While its true I don't speak for everyone, I

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Thanks for keeping me awake I drove 10 hours today. Stalemate is OK with me. On Thursday, February 21, 2013, ChemE Stewart wrote: > Don't speak for everyone, you are the only unaccredited Bowery U professor > requesting homework while you advance more government conspiracy theories. > > Dark ene

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Don't speak for everyone, you are the only unaccredited Bowery U professor requesting homework while you advance more government conspiracy theories. Dark energy/vacuum energy/ZPE whatever you want to call it makes up 95% of the universe, it is about time we figure out where it is. Where do you t

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We await with bated breath your homework. I found your posting a scattershot URL with a bunch of other links to various theories, none of which was anything like the theory I posit, to be typical of your reponses to pointed questions: Evasive. The only thing that might possibly be construed as r

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Do you think Obama played a round of golf while visiting Mars?

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Hard to do math while driving and texting on my iPhone. Glad you liked the theories, the second was similar to yours and grouped with the Mayans based on its merits. On Thursday, February 21, 2013, James Bowery wrote: > No arithmetic worked out in response to my second challenge. > > A scattersh

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No arithmetic worked out in response to my second challenge. A scattershot of a bunch "conspiracy" theories starting with a Mayan prophesies in response to my second challenge to come up with "a" (singular) URL to "a" (singular) "conspiracy" theory more plausible than my theory, which is not "cons

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Ok, The object was in a 2 body kepler orbit, formula on my site The 20' dia perfectly round hole in the lake with no object found was a nucleus with a bubble of condensed gas surrounding it. Last I read Authorities believe the round hole is a hoax because they cannot explain it, although they fou

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Completing the first part of my second challenge to ChemE for him the URL to the relevant arithmetic is (presumably): http://darkmattersalot.com/2013/02/03/number-crunching/ But you must then search for the subheading: Typical Particle Orbit Calculations The second part of my second challenge t

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Darkmattersalot.com on the menu My unfalsifiable claim regarding cold fusion is still aliens farting through a wormhole, they are just playing with us. On Thursday, February 21, 2013, James Bowery wrote: > The typical "internet government conspiracy theory" has to refer > technologies that are f

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The typical "internet government conspiracy theory" has to refer technologies that are far from being widely acknowledged to be mundane science and/or to programs that involve motives that are far from being widely acknowledged as being legitimate. I've made no such assumptions and I defy you to c

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Actually I have calcs now on the menu on my site. I also show multi-body problem formulas and calculations for the core of the Earth. I have also been tracking orbits for 2 months and predicting low pressure systems. I am building an orbital model through the Google Earth API and fitting it to t

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plete Theory of Everything (Will Be >> Subjective)" <http://www.mdpi.com/1999-4893/3/4/329>. >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 10:02 PM, David Roberson wrote: >> >> Also, if you read pi carefully and far into the future, it will reveal >> all of th

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ed, Feb 20, 2013 at 10:02 PM, David Roberson wrote: > > Also, if you read pi carefully and far into the future, it will reveal all > of the events that are to come on Earth and throughout the universe. Of > course, you might have a bit of trouble eliminating the vast number of >

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ht have a bit of trouble eliminating the vast number of >>> predictions that are utter non sense. >>> >>> Now, you might not find the reference to the future events before they >>> happen because it may take forever to get the information. Remember, every >>&

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also there for the reading, but we missed all of them >> as far as I know. >> >> Dave >> >> >> -Original Message----- >> From: Harry Veeder >> To: vortex-l >> Sent: Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:36 pm >> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Russian meteor causes

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forever to get the information. Remember, every > historical event was also there for the reading, but we missed all of them > as far as I know. > > Dave > > > -Original Message- > From: Harry Veeder > To: vortex-l > Sent: Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:36 pm > Sub

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, 2013 9:36 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Russian meteor causes blast; hundreds injured If it is possible that Pi contains a coded version of the complete works of Shakesoeare, then is it possible that Pi already contains a different coded message, which we will never detect as long as the natural language of

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If it is possible that Pi contains a coded version of the complete works of Shakesoeare, then is it possible that Pi already contains a different coded message, which we will never detect as long as the natural language of this different message remains unknown to us? Harry On Wed, Feb 20, 201

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Terry, I laughed when I heard the first estimates that it only weighed 10 tons. Have you looked at the mass of big boulders lately? A ton is tiny. Dave -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton To: vortex-l Sent: Wed, Feb 20, 2013 10:49 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Russian meteor causes

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On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 2:43 AM, Eric Walker wrote: > I suspect there is an invalid assumption about randomness that we are making > when we go along with the old thought experiment of a corps of eternally > typing monkeys eventually producing Shakespeare's folio or imagining that the > folio c

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--- On Wed, 2/20/13, Daniel Rocha wrote: From: Daniel Rocha Subject: Re: [Vo]:Russian meteor causes blast; hundreds injured To: "John Milstone" Date: Wednesday, February 20, 2013, 12:15 PM 1m3 of an asteroid weights 7tons, usually. If its radius is 7.5m, then we have a volume

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Should be easy to find then, especially the 20' dia hole in the lake object. I would be dawning my scuba gear and metal detector. 40 x the price of gold... On Wednesday, February 20, 2013, Daniel Rocha wrote: > 1m3 of an asteroid weights 7tons, usually. If its radius is 7.5m, then we > have a v

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1m3 of an asteroid weights 7tons, usually. If its radius is 7.5m, then we have a volume of 4/3*pi*(7.5) ~ 1800m^3. The total weight is around 12thousand tons. Not much, really. 2013/2/20 ChemE Stewart > 10,000 tons is A LOT OF STUFF > > > On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 12:06 PM, ChemE Stewart wrote: >

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10,000 tons is A LOT OF STUFF On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 12:06 PM, ChemE Stewart wrote: > Where is it? > > > On Wednesday, February 20, 2013, Daniel Rocha wrote: > >> There is nothing unusual about that asteroid. Calculate the kinetic >> energy of a sphere with 15m of diameter at 30km/s. Consider

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Where is it? On Wednesday, February 20, 2013, Daniel Rocha wrote: > There is nothing unusual about that asteroid. Calculate the kinetic energy > of a sphere with 15m of diameter at 30km/s. Consider the typical density of > 7g/cm^3. The kinetic energy released is around 500ktons of tnt and its > w

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There is nothing unusual about that asteroid. Calculate the kinetic energy of a sphere with 15m of diameter at 30km/s. Consider the typical density of 7g/cm^3. The kinetic energy released is around 500ktons of tnt and its weight around 10ktons. 2013/2/20 ChemE Stewart > Close, probably dark mat

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Close, probably dark matter nuclei :) I think I read 50m diameter but I have not done the math. I want to see if they can find what made that perfectly round 20'-30' diameter hole in the ice. So far nada... Should be worth a lot if it exists. On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Terry Blanto

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On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 8:49 AM, ChemE Stewart wrote: > You, like NASA, are off by at least a factor of 1000... > > http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/02/19/russian-meteorite-1000-times-bigger-than-originally-thought/ That article makes no sense at all. Maybe they mean the energy released was b

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The biggest blunder is having an object hurdling at you @ 60,000 mph with the ability to take out a city and not even realizing it. On Wednesday, February 20, 2013, Daniel Rocha wrote: > It was just a horrible blunder. Even I got the number and the yield of the > explosion right. Just look at the

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It was just a horrible blunder. Even I got the number and the yield of the explosion right. Just look at the beginning of this thread. 2013/2/20 ChemE Stewart > You, like NASA, are off by at least a factor of 1000... > > > http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/02/19/russian-meteorite-1000-times-b

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You, like NASA, are off by at least a factor of 1000... http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/02/19/russian-meteorite-1000-times-bigger-than-originally-thought/ Of course maybe it was just diffuse plasma. Stewart Darkmattersalot.com On Wednesday, February 20, 2013, Eric Walker wrote: > On Feb 20

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On Feb 20, 2013, at 4:49, John Berry wrote: > It is interesting to note that the complete works of Shakespeare must > also occur in Pi somewhere. (irrational, non ending and non > repetitive I suspect there is an invalid assumption about randomness that we are making when we go along with the o

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On Feb 17, 2013, at 15:04, James Bowery wrote: >> I suspect these events only seem infrequent > > Careful, Eric. We're actually getting, just in the last few years, enough > data to falsify claims like yours now. I'm not claiming, I'm suspecting. ;) Eric

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Think of the more interesting, shorter writings that monkey would come up with. Would be quite instructional, I imagine. Cheers, Lawry Sent from my iPhone On Feb 19, 2013, at 1:49 PM, John Berry wrote: > It is interesting to note that the complete works of Shakespeare must > also occur in Pi

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Random events cluster. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 19, 2013, at 1:16 PM, Alexander Hollins wrote: > Are you familiar with "clustering"? just because a rare event happens twice > close together, doesn't change the rarity based on previous data. You just > happened to hit the probability twic

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I agree with what you said, Jim. However, all decisions in life are based on what appears to be the most likely outcome using logic based on what appears to be the best facts. Judgement and common sense are used most often to decide what to believe. But more important, the consequence of th

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Estimating the probability has to do with the investment decision tree. Such exploration requires resources and the resources allocated to the search have to take into account the expected value in terms of risk adjusted utility of obtaining a targeted statistical sample

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Of course I also agree that our model is wrong: 1)They found no massive hunk of iron in that 30' hole in the lake because there was no ball of iron as a nucleus to begin with. That is a sinkhole 2) Our estimate of the mass of those objects based upon ordinary matter is vastly too low because they

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It is interesting to note that the complete works of Shakespeare must also occur in Pi somewhere. (irrational, non ending and non repetitive) But because you would have to convert the numbers to letters, you would need to group them and since you would get many numbers over 26 it would take a very

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Rather that debate the probability of the two events being coupled through random chance, why not assume the two events did not occur at the same time by random change and explore the reason why they occurred at the same time? Why not explore the probability that an asteroid has rocks that

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PS: Why do I bother? On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 2:28 PM, James Bowery wrote: > Of course we're all familiar with the "clustering" phenomenon that occurs > when thousand immortal monkeys banging away on typewriters, at some point > during their "lifespan" type type out the complete works of Shakesp

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Of course we're all familiar with the "clustering" phenomenon that occurs when thousand immortal monkeys banging away on typewriters, at some point during their "lifespan" type type out the complete works of Shakespeare in the precise order that Shakespeare wrote them. So now try to follow along c

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Are you familiar with "clustering"? just because a rare event happens twice close together, doesn't change the rarity based on previous data. You just happened to hit the probability twice. On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 1:14 PM, James Bowery wrote: > Think about this like an actuary, folks: > > When

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Think about this like an actuary, folks: When setting insurance premiums, one must have a model. If your model says that an event should occur only less than once in a million years and the event occurred a few days ago, you might think your model needs revision. The question then becomes how mu

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You provide no arithmetic and your argument is consistent with my arithmetic. On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 1:48 PM, leaking pen wrote: > flip a coin 99 times, if it comes up heads 99 times, what is the > probability that it will come up heads the 100th time? And not sure where > Fox got their 10 to

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flip a coin 99 times, if it comes up heads 99 times, what is the probability that it will come up heads the 100th time? And not sure where Fox got their 10 tons, but the volume, 15 meters across, is pretty much been the estimate since the beginning. perhaps someone mis estimated what 15 cubic fee

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The odds of this coincidence are literally far less than one in a million. The naive calculation is based on two like celestial events that independently occur once in a hundred years occurring on the same day: 1/(365*100)^2 = 1/133225 Note: that is one in a billion. Discount by a factor

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Yeah, that is what I was trying to say Terry. I pointed out that there was no electromagnetic pulse damage, so likely no nuclear explosion. :-) Dave -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton To: vortex-l Sent: Sun, Feb 17, 2013 8:57 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Russian meteor causes blast

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<> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlE1BdOAfVc Harry

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http://www.amusingplanet.com/2008/07/how-to-watch-nuclear-explosion.html Harry On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 7:08 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > A remastered version: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNx67QjUHxU > > > 2013/2/17 Daniel Rocha >> >> That explosion is way, way too small. It look like to ha

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On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 6:36 PM, David Roberson wrote: > Would an electromagnetic pulse from any nuclear explosion at this altitude > cause widespread damage to electronic equipment? I have not seen any > reports of this problem. The nature of the explosion of a meteoroid is closer to that of a

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A remastered version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNx67QjUHxU 2013/2/17 Daniel Rocha > That explosion is way, way too small. It look like to have at most > 1kt-2kt. That meteor exploded with 500x that energy. > > It should be something like this: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvW0N-c

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That explosion is way, way too small. It look like to have at most 1kt-2kt. That meteor exploded with 500x that energy. It should be something like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvW0N-cFexM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2fSMJkMK5M 2013/2/17 Harry Veeder > A comparable nuclear bl

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]:Russian meteor causes blast; hundreds injured Resend with this addition: NASA says meteor was "nuclear-like" in its intensity. Maybe they know something. http://cosmiclog.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/15/16969092-nuclear-like-in-its-i ntensity-russian-meteor-blast-is-the-largest-since-1908?

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This is a currently operational ground-based Russian ABM . On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: > I don't think it was intercepted, but I am not convinced by the > argument that it was technically impossible. > > Harry > > On Sun, Feb 1

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This speculation would be fun if some people were not serious. On Feb 17, 2013, at 3:55 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: Like Tunguska, it was an alien sacrifice: http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/6868/56

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Like Tunguska, it was an alien sacrifice: http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/6868/56

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I don't think it was intercepted, but I am not convinced by the argument that it was technically impossible. Harry On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Edmund Storms wrote: > Please apply some common sense. The object was too small to detect and was > totally unexpected. Even if it was detected wit

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A comparable nuclear blast https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paCUhiUxxIw Seems the spectators found it thrilling. harry On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > Resend with this addition: NASA says meteor was "nuclear-like" in its > intensity. Maybe they know something. > > http://c

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Erratum: "Ignoring the out-gong fragments" should be "Taking into account the out-going fragments" On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 2:16 PM, James Bowery wrote: > I believe he's referring to the appearance of a glowing object approaching > from _behind_ the main mass that correlates in time and directio

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Please apply some common sense. The object was too small to detect and was totally unexpected. Even if it was detected with enough time to launch a missile, why do this? Ed On Feb 17, 2013, at 2:25 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 3:16 PM, James Bowery wrote: I believe he'

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Notice that several independent contrails formed before the explosion as separate pieces moved through the atmosphere at slightly different speeds and locations in space. The object appearing to come from behind could be a piece of the meteor that had come off earlier and appeared to moved

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On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > Resend with this addition: NASA says meteor was "nuclear-like" in its > intensity. Maybe they know something. > > > http://cosmiclog.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/15/16969092-nuclear-like-in-its-i > ntensity-russian-meteor-blast-is-the-largest-sin

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On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 3:16 PM, James Bowery wrote: > I believe he's referring to the appearance of a glowing object approaching > from _behind_ the main mass that correlates in time and direction to the > ejection of fragments with its disappearance into the main mass. Yes, we're > talking delt

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Note the blury object on the left just below the meteor's tail, which appears to catch up to the meteor. Harry On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Edmund Storms wrote: > What is so unusual about this video? The meteor exploded, which sent > fragments in all directions, including straight ahead as

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Resend with this addition: NASA says meteor was "nuclear-like" in its intensity. Maybe they know something. http://cosmiclog.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/15/16969092-nuclear-like-in-its-i ntensity-russian-meteor-blast-is-the-largest-since-1908?lite Ed, Near the end of the video at 26-27 seconds

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I believe he's referring to the appearance of a glowing object approaching from _behind_ the main mass that correlates in time and direction to the ejection of fragments with its disappearance into the main mass. Yes, we're talking delta-velocities that are outside of plausible explanation by ball

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What is so unusual about this video? The meteor exploded, which sent fragments in all directions, including straight ahead as the video shows. As for shooting down an object slowing from 17000 mph in the atmosphere, where is the common sense? Ed On Feb 17, 2013, at 7:17 AM, Jones Beene wrot

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On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 1:19 AM, James Bowery wrote: > What is your cite, Terry? It could have been the same.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-octPHs9gcs &feature=player_embedded#t=0s NASA failed to mention the surprising activity that seems to show up in this Russian video, in slo-mo. The video could have been altered - wi

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NASA failed to mention the surprising activity that seems to show up in this Russian video, in slo-mo. The video could have been altered - with the addition of a fast moving object that seems to impact with the object to make it explode. Since the original story of a missile shoot-down cam

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On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 1:46 AM, Eric Walker wrote: > On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 8:08 PM, David Roberson wrote: > > The fact that both of these events happened so close together just does >> not seem likely since both are infrequent. Talk of a miracle in cold >> fusion; this seems like one in astro

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On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 2:22 PM, James Bowery wrote: > > Obvious question: > > > > Was the vector correlated with that of the earth approaching asteroid? > > No, they were almost perpendicular. Pure and delightful coincidence. > > NASA's b

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It was only a matter of time before the conspiracy theorists got into full action… This one is almost believable. http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/02/15/russian-meteor-conspiracy_n_2694031.html Of course, it is the Russian angle and fairly tame. Closer to home, has Rush or Rove fo

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On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 8:08 PM, David Roberson wrote: The fact that both of these events happened so close together just does not > seem likely since both are infrequent. Talk of a miracle in cold fusion; > this seems like one in astronomy. > I suspect these events only seem infrequent, in two

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-Original Message- From: Alan Fletcher To: vortex-l Sent: Fri, Feb 15, 2013 10:46 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Russian meteor causes blast; hundreds injured > A comment in line with my sine vs cycloid thinking : > Indeed, it gives an orbital period of 153 millenia -- so they're &g

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> A comment in line with my sine vs cycloid thinking : > Indeed, it gives an orbital period of 153 millenia -- so they're > pretty much travelling in the same direction. No cycloid motion. 153372146.1years Oops : not 153 MILLennia .. but 153 MEGennia

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A comment in line with my sine vs cycloid thinking : http://science.slashdot.org/story/13/02/15/1747226/asteroid-2012-da14-approaches?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed Re:are we sure it has nothing to do with DA14? (Score:4, Informative) by Clueless Moron (548336) on Friday February

Re: [Vo]:Russian meteor causes blast; hundreds injured

On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 18:06:15 -0500 Jed Rothwell wrote: > Vorl Bek wrote: > > > > So 1500 years ago a rock falling into the ocean caused a couple of cold > > years, about the equivalent of the Tambora explosion of 1815. European > > civilization survived that with nary a hiccup. > > > > If it h

Re: [Vo]:Russian meteor causes blast; hundreds injured

As spherical object with that size and made of water would weight ~1800 tons. If that's an iron asteroid, that would give over 10 thousand tons. In terms of explosive power, it should be equivalent between 0.2 and 1 Megaton 2013/2/15 Jed Rothwell > > > They say the object was 15 m in size, ~10

Re: [Vo]:Russian meteor causes blast; hundreds injured

Alan Fletcher wrote: > > Nature comment (we know they're an unbiased source!) > On a subject like this I consider them unbiased. They are only biased against a limited number of things such as cold fusion. A person's bias or prejudice is often highly selective to one subject area, and does not a

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