Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] CIS-A2K Work Plan for July 14-June 15

2014-04-16 Thread Vickram Crishna
Forgive me for interjecting at this point, as I am not actively engaged with any aspect of this process. Wikimedia is a growing phenomenon, absolutely unique in its demonstration that value can be created without what is often assumed to be an equivalent injection of capital. It has happened

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Calendars in use in India

2014-01-15 Thread Vickram Crishna
Hi Gerard Calendars around the world follow a combination of solar and lunar cycles: periodic mismatches between the two have given rise to different ways of keeping track of the days. India also has more than one system in regular use, although as Pranav mentions, only one vernacular calendar

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-WB] The Egg

2014-01-06 Thread Vickram Crishna
Beautiful image! Excellent. Vickram On 7 Jan 2014 12:10, Kalyan Sarkar kalyan.sar...@gmail.com wrote: Congratulations, Biswarup da! On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Bishakha Datta bishakhada...@gmail.comwrote: Most interesting image - never seen this before. Congratulations, Biswarup.

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Digital Language Death

2014-01-05 Thread Vickram Crishna
Could you explain, please, what you mean precisely by adding lexical data? An example? Warmly Vickram On 5 Jan 2014 19:01, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, Getting content to the Internet is very much a chicken and egg problem. There is nothing and consequently nothing

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Thesis defence ( on crowdsourcing - of some interest to the community)

2013-12-11 Thread Vickram Crishna
All are welcome... where? Which University? Which city? (I'm almost tempted to ask: which country?) It really does look like a very fascinating opportunity, and subject. If successfully defended (and one hopes there is no doubt) do consider an article on it, and/or referencing from within other

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] A Wikipedia success story to emulate

2013-11-16 Thread Vickram Crishna
Conceptually, this is similar to the effort made in India over the last couple of years, and it is heartening that the failure here is not representative of the end of the road. However, the degree of buy-in from the institution, obvious in the remarks made by the professor, as well as hints of a

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [CC-India] Creative Commons India launch - 12 November

2013-11-11 Thread Vickram Crishna
On 2 Nov 2013 09:26, Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all , Thanks Jane for the explanation. I remember I am in this cc-india list from 2006 onwards :-) It is better to announce relaunch as it is in the announcements to avoid confusion . Because we wikipedian's value

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Featured Wikimedian profile on Wikimedia India Chapter wiki

2013-11-02 Thread Vickram Crishna
On 3 Nov 2013 09:16, Netha Hussain nethahuss...@gmail.com wrote: All information given on the profile is based on the answers given by the interviewee at the time of interview. Vibhi gave me an e-mail interview in October 2013. Time is a jet plane, it moves too fast ...

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press] : NextBigWhat.com : Piecing Together India’s Heritage One Photo at A Time [Indians Top Contributors to World's Largest Photo Contest]

2013-09-24 Thread Vickram Crishna
Very nice. Thanks. It really puts WLM in a good perspective. On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 5:57 PM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.comwrote: *NextBigWhat.com : Piecing Together India’s Heritage One Photo at A Time [Indians Top Contributors to World's Largest Photo Contest]*

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FDC grant

2013-09-20 Thread Vickram Crishna
I looked at the page some days ago, but for some reason it did not allow me to edit anything. On reflection, though, I did not find anything positive to suggest. I assume the monetisation of the projects is a separate exercise, and must confess I have not researched the purpose of this part of the

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FDC grant

2013-09-20 Thread Vickram Crishna
from the wall. His eyes, like lights from a laser, burn making my hair stand - making the goose-bumps crawl. Jethro Tull: Watching Me Watching You (1982) On Sep 20, 2013 4:53 PM, Vickram Crishna vvcris...@gmail.com wrote: I did that, and returned to the page, but it did not allow me to edit

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FDC grant

2013-09-20 Thread Vickram Crishna
. On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Vickram Crishna vvcris...@radiophony.com wrote: I did that, and returned to the page, but it did not allow me to edit. But as I said, it is not material to the process. -- Vickram Fool On The Hill communicall.wordpress.com He's still watching me

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Proposal for hiring consultant to review WMIN

2013-09-03 Thread Vickram Crishna
To what extent are the plaguey issues known? Without a very specific brief, a consultant is likely to be neither here nor there in resolving issues in preparation for what lies ahead. Is it possible for the present team to carry out an ABC analysis of issues? At least that way the problems that

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-mum] End of the GLAM pilot project at BNHS

2013-08-09 Thread Vickram Crishna
As Ashwin points out, from the point of view of a partnership, this was less than a resounding success. However, Rohini does not call it a partnership, because it isn't one. This was a pilot, intended to demonstrate to persons of influence at BNHS what a partnership could achieve for the Society.

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Spooky entry on Wikipedia

2013-07-13 Thread Vickram Crishna
It presently reads: He is alleged to plant his staunch supporters as RAW and IB chiefs. He grew infamous when he wanted to sack the then RAW chiefC. D. Sahayhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C._D._Sahay. He began systematically undermining Sahay; he planted his own man, Hormis Tharakan

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Request for an announcement mailing list

2013-05-18 Thread Vickram Crishna
Hi Karthik I too think we would be better served through dedicated use of the existing lists rather than adding to them. I am a fairly diligent email reader, I feel, yet I sometimes don't learn about activities in Mumbai even though I live here. This is rather the opposite to being deluged with

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] interesting news

2013-03-09 Thread Vickram Crishna
While this is not, per se, a subject directly for this list, I feel that as many Wikimedians as possible ought to appreciate the subtle establishment of hegemony here. ICANN is an independent body, true, but it has been seen in the past to act in favour of US interests, in case of significant

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Legolas2186

2013-03-02 Thread Vickram Crishna
This has happened even with contract-linked editing of information sources, such as the old encyclopedias. As a philosophy, managing information the wikipedia way has many things to offer, but omniscience isn't one of them. Actually, perfection can only be a goal, not a promise. The good thing

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [Chapters] Wiki Loves Earth

2013-02-14 Thread Vickram Crishna
Noise. Troll. Cease and desist, unless you have something positive to contribute. fyi, since you don't seem to have the time to regularly follow Wikimedia activities in India, many Wikimedians took part in the global Wikimedia Loves Monuments event, without any funding offers, with terrific

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate

2013-02-13 Thread Vickram Crishna
I am also not a Chapter member, but for some reason, I am not particularly perturbed about reports, activities and so on. I think Tejas' suggestions are excellent, and made in the positive spirit of building a sense of community amongst Wikimedians in India, be they chapter, foundation, user,

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fw: Re: [A2K]: The Access to Knowledge - Bulletin - January '13

2013-02-08 Thread Vickram Crishna
the interest and we thank you. Jethro Tull: A Passion Play (1973) On Feb 8, 2013 9:54 PM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Vickram Crishna vvcris...@radiophony.comwrote: . I had the privilege of attending a workshop session she conducted in Mumbai

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fw: Re: [A2K]: The Access to Knowledge - Bulletin - January '13

2013-02-08 Thread Vickram Crishna
I don't know Vishnu, and I have only followed the recruitment process by email windowshopping, no direct participation. I have also enjoyed and admired the hard work being done by other enthusiastic Wikimedians, now in this debate, over the years. But the questions being asked came across to me

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fw: Re: [A2K]: The Access to Knowledge - Bulletin - January '13

2013-02-08 Thread Vickram Crishna
While broadly concurring with Ravi, I have been informed by several Wikimedians that the office also had to deal with a plethora of well-meant queries and initiatives from external sources, ie outside India. I don't think any of us should be afraid to raise doubts, but equally, I don't think any

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-IN-PUN] Wikimedia India Chapter Anniversary

2013-01-07 Thread Vickram Crishna
The period for clearance of permission to receive funds from abroad in the form of donation or grant (as against earnings) is unknowable, but has been getting extensive over the past few years since the rule was instituted. Afaik, there is no obvious reason why it should take long or be considered

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia COO was convicted felon

2012-12-30 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.org wrote: On 25 December 2012 09:17, Rohini Lakshané rohini.laksh...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/12/13/wikimedia_coo_convicted_felon It's more than a few years old, what? I think it is very important

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Spoken Wikipedia Workshop - 16th December-2012 Pune.

2012-12-13 Thread Vickram Crishna
I think this is a pretty good idea. Already, the stations have the need to deliver 6 month's recordings to the relevant Ministry, as part of the tc of their licenses. We need to establish a 'chain' to each station, whereby an additional copy (presently, the stipulation mentions a cd or DVD) can be

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Spoken Wikipedia for Indic Languages

2012-11-15 Thread Vickram Crishna
As far as this discussion is concerned, it does not seem that we need to be much bothered about the history and background. What we need to focus on is the word in its current context, so, Indic and Indian languages, with particular reference to display standards, and therefore the direction of

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic languages (was Re: Spoken Wikipedia for Indic Languages)

2012-11-14 Thread Vickram Crishna
Judging from this clarification, it seems that a position is being created that the Indus valley civilisation was the sole active player in the separation of Dravidian from non-Dravidian communities, and that we should shun any attempt to use the word Indic, as that might show unnecessary respect

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Outreach] 1st Wikipedia Workshop in British Library, Chandigarh

2012-08-27 Thread Vickram Crishna
Well done! You seem to have had an amazing session over two days! On Aug 28, 2012 8:24 AM, Piyush Aggarwal me.piyushaggar...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings Everyone, I am back from Chandigarh after attending one of the two amazing sessions at British library. The session on day 1 (24 August) was

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Plz consider the primary education as a issue of concern.

2012-08-21 Thread Vickram Crishna
The founder of Sugar labs, Walter Bender, will be in India from about 21-29 August (i.e. now) and will speak at HBCSE in Mumbai on 28 August, 4-6 pm, for those interested in furthering the importance of good quality primary education. It is an open, public, meeting. Sugar is the platform

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] what is a Monument?

2012-08-14 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Aug 13, 2012 11:51 PM, Pradeep Mohandas pr...@outlook.com wrote: Quite a philosophical question this no? Apparently, India has an act that defines what are monuments. It goes by the rather descriptive name, Ancient Monuments and Archaeological Sites and Remains Act, 1958. You can

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Volunteer for CIS's A2K programme director recruitment committee

2012-08-06 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Aug 6, 2012 12:19 PM, Sunil Abraham su...@mahiti.org wrote: Dear Yuvi and Vickram, On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Vickram Crishna vvcris...@radiophony.com wrote: On Aug 5, 2012 3:05 PM, Yuvi Panda yuvipa...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Sunil Abraham su

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Volunteer for CIS's A2K programme director recruitment committee

2012-08-05 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Aug 5, 2012 3:05 PM, Yuvi Panda yuvipa...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Sunil Abraham su...@mahiti.org wrote: Simply out of curiosity, what would constitute 'sufficient' managerial experience? The rest of us were hoping ;-) you would explain.

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [OT] Fwd:Parliament - Say no to Internet Censorship

2012-04-14 Thread Vickram Crishna
Not at all OT (unless the rules of this list say otherwise) On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 3:48 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.comwrote: -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 17:52 Subject: [ilugb] Parliament - Say no to Internet Censorship Parliament - Say no

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Program-Fortnightly IRC: Thursday March 29th @ 9pm IST (Outreach Communication) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-29 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Hisham, you say you're conducted 22+ sessions. How would you rate the relative success of each of them? Four people editing on the day isn't good enough. Long term editors should be used to measure

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs-Fortnightly IRC: Thursday March 15th @ 9pm IST (Indic Languages) Thursday March 29th @9pm IST (Outreach Communication) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-15 Thread Vickram Crishna
Just to chime in with some observations (empirical, possibly OT) about means of communication. IRC is one of those elegant solutions that just aren't everyone's cup of tea, but sometimes because they haven't tried. Actually, it is the nearest thing to a physical meeting, with the same rules of

[Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: Re: India is country under Internet surveillance : Reporters without Borders

2012-03-14 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Mar 14, 2012 11:51 AM, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com wrote: Please mark such posts as off topic. That depends on how OT is defined. We already face internal restrictions defining content, we face 'security' restrictions finding content (re our discussions on photographing

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: eidete - a nice screencaster for gnu/linux

2012-03-01 Thread Vickram Crishna
This is super. Nitika may find this tremendously helpful for her proposed online outreach sessions. We can also crowdsource video shorts: tips and tricks for various aspects of Wikimedia stuff, in multiple languages. On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.comwrote: we

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Konkani Wikipedia.

2012-02-25 Thread Vickram Crishna
As the old military expression goes, the impossible just takes a little longer. Choose one script/dialect combination (organically, not by diktat), develop it to a starting point, and I venture to suggest that enthusiasts will come forward to support developing the variants. On Sun, Feb 26, 2012

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Please sign up for WikiProject India if you are an English language Wikipedian (yes, English is an Indic language)

2012-02-20 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Swaroop Rao raul.swar...@gmail.comwrote: Swaroop Rao (MikeLynch http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MikeLynch) On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 20:29, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.comwrote: I think we need to contact dormant editors and ask them why they

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Please sign up for WikiProject India if you are an English language Wikipedian (yes, English is an Indic language)

2012-02-20 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Agree with Ashwin. That feeling of nostalgia is very powerful. Vickram, the case of Nichalp is a one of case. It doesn't happen with EVERYONE. :-) Thank goodness, too! But this commercialisation aspect

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-IN-PUN] [Wikimedia-in-en] GLAM-India: Wikipedia and NHHM collaboration

2012-02-10 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 7:48 AM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com wrote: FYI. -- Forwarded message -- From: Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com Date: Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 7:45 AM Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-IN-PUN] [Wikimedia-in-en] GLAM-India: Wikipedia and NHHM

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Pure Fiction: Nichalp and Wifione

2012-02-09 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.comwrote: I was told by someone that Wikipeding was a voluntary activity so high standards should not be expected in competence. If that is true, then we should not suddenly start witch-hunting on the basis of principle when

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Backup for Wikipedians

2012-02-09 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Deepon Saha hideeponh...@gmail.com wrote: Good Idea Srikanth.. Deepon On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: It isn't easy to stand ground when you are outnumbered. It also isn't god when the cop reels out a

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Backup for Wikipedians

2012-02-09 Thread Vickram Crishna
Top posting: yes, *sensitive* spots, not spots of possible connection with *national security*. The police take an active interest wherever money can be sniffed, not only where the government may or may not have an interest. In the former kind of places, one can very often discern an extra-legal

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [datameet] National Data Sharing and Accessibility Policy 2012 Approved

2012-02-09 Thread Vickram Crishna
It would be absolutely fantastic if we can organise ongoing training and sensitisation sessions for government departments in order to assist them to streamline timely uploading of public information. These may also be conducted at universities where scientific research is published, for the

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Pure Fiction: Nichalp and Wifione

2012-02-08 Thread Vickram Crishna
What is rather odd is that the 'story' is written as a defense of Nichalp/Wifione/Wikifone. Possibly some people may have known him personally and therefore the tone of the article. I find the statement They don't realize that, in the long run, editors cannot be expected to devote their time to

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Backup for Wikipedians

2012-02-08 Thread Vickram Crishna
+1 On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 1:09 AM, Aditya Sengupta apsengu...@gmail.comwrote: Ignore any or all of the above advice if you are being physically harmed. Focus on personal safety first. -- Vickram Fool On The Hill http://communicall.wordpress.com

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Letters of authority or press cards (was: Backup for Wikipedians)

2012-02-06 Thread Vickram Crishna
I think this is a great suggestion. I know that amateur and even professional photographers (non-Press persons) face endless nuisance simply due the lack of an official looking card. Do we actually have an 'office'? If so, its address on the card would help. Only thing is since probably the

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Letters of authority or press cards (was: Backup for Wikipedians)

2012-02-06 Thread Vickram Crishna
Further to Theo's suggestion (inline below) On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote: Great suggestion Fae. As Srikanth correctly pointed it out, such an ID would be under the content scope, which neither the chapter or the WMF India operations have any jurisdiction

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 2012

2012-01-29 Thread Vickram Crishna
, for it is not even necessary that every photosession be a PhotoWalk. On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Vickram Crishna vvcris...@radiophony.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: IMHO, the point of the photo walk is not just to get pictures but, also to ask

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Report on Wikipedia Takes Mumbai II

2012-01-29 Thread Vickram Crishna
of work into the event. They helped many people contribute to the Commons while having a good time, and they deserve praise for making all of this happen. Our heartfelt gratitude to Pranav Curumsey, Vickram Crishna, Dr Nagarjuna, Noopur Raval and Moksh Juneja for all the help and mentoring

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 2012

2012-01-28 Thread Vickram Crishna
Failure to make the system work efficiently is also a learning exercise. Given that we are hoping to make such events happen more frequently and at many historically important places across the country, we must work to see that wikimedians are enabled to upload images meaningfully, ie with proper

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 2012

2012-01-28 Thread Vickram Crishna
which, the 'we' who solve the issues work within a commonly agreed framework, to avoid chaos and wandering down blind alleys. This list is not part of that framework, it is the place (within this context) where non-geeky people share their geeky needs. On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Vickram

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wiki Takes Mumbai II !!!

2012-01-27 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 2:55 PM, nikita belavate niki8...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks to Vickram uncle and Dr.Nagarjuna :) Hope some 'uncles' will be part of the Photowalk too! -- Vickram Fool On The Hill http://communicall.wordpress.com ___

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 2012

2012-01-25 Thread Vickram Crishna
As discussed with Nikita and Dr Nagarjuna, the HBCSE has kindly offered the use of the Gnowledge Labs at Deonar on Saturday 28 Jan afternoon (2pm onwards; the request was for a couple of hours) for the conclusion of the planned Photowalk, in order to complete uploading/tagging/captioning etc of

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: Petition Response: Digitizing Federal Public Records

2012-01-22 Thread Vickram Crishna
Who wants copyright free? We want the right to reproduce and distribute freely, since we have already paid for it. The amendments on the way are a mess, designed to reinforce the rights of restrictive copyright holders. It is understandable, since the political leadership of the nation (of all

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Supreme Court Says Congress May Re-Copyright Public Domain Works

2012-01-22 Thread Vickram Crishna
To be utterly frank, we cannot continue to think that we must follow the example of the west. As Wikimedians in India, we have a particular point of view about copyright, in this case of works created using public money. Whether or not the USA decides to prevent similar works from being openly

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Minutes of Wikipedia Mumbai Meetup 14

2012-01-15 Thread Vickram Crishna
Hi Pranav On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 10:21 PM, wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com wrote: Minutes of Wikipedia Mumbai Meetup 14: Coincidentally, 14 people attended the 14th Mumbai Meetup held at Coffee Bean and Tea Leaf, Bandra earlier today :) *Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 2* *... Wikimania 2013

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS and Wikipedia

2012-01-04 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.comwrote: So I request that we may all simmer down a bit. If this continues then I would like to join them since I cant beat them. This I shall do by getting upset about the abhorrent word *baingan. *I dont like the taste of

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India: Wikipedia Takes Ahmedabad, January 2012

2012-01-03 Thread Vickram Crishna
And, just to nitpick: On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 1:16 AM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa@gmail.comwrote: Hmmm I don't know why people are so touchy about FOSS. If I mention photographer or security or Media or engineer instead of FOSS, will the reaction be same? On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 12:49

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Supporting Outreach

2011-12-21 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa@gmail.com wrote: Probably some bot mechanism will work better. People may not know the IP address from the venue before they start working. Just setup a page where such IPs can be put up and a bot checks them every 1-2 hours

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] OT FOSS assist WAS Re: Webfonts deployment on Indic Wikiprojects

2011-12-18 Thread Vickram Crishna
. -- On 12/13/11, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: 2011/12/14 Vickram Crishna vvcris...@radiophony.com: Pardon my intrusion on this thread, but within reason*, if any college or other educational institution chooses to be 'proprietary only' (never mind antediluvian

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] OT FOSS assist WAS Re: Webfonts deployment on Indic Wikiprojects

2011-12-14 Thread Vickram Crishna
will come with tangible efficiency benefits. -- On 12/13/11, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: 2011/12/14 Vickram Crishna vvcris...@radiophony.com: Pardon my intrusion on this thread, but within reason*, if any college or other educational institution chooses

[Wikimediaindia-l] OT FOSS assist WAS Re: Webfonts deployment on Indic Wikiprojects

2011-12-13 Thread Vickram Crishna
Pardon my intrusion on this thread, but within reason*, if any college or other educational institution chooses to be 'proprietary only' (never mind antediluvian - IE6? really? or is that an XP issue?) FOSSers are prepared to take it up 'officially' with them, reminding them of the nation's

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: Re: Indian Minister Kapil Sibal wants to censor social media

2011-12-07 Thread Vickram Crishna
Oh, the mention of 'idiot' on that page is vandalism (no, I haven't done it - yet)? I thought we had a very interesting discussion about current affairs at WikiConf where there seemed to be a consensus that presenting every side of the picture is important. Is reporting the fact that major

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: Re: [Foundation-l] Indian Minister Kapil Sibal wants to censor social media

2011-12-06 Thread Vickram Crishna
I don't know whether a discussion on social networking is really directly on-topic for this list, but the reality is that the provisions of the law as it stands right now are certainly of dire portent for a free and fearlessly neutral Wikipedia and its associated projects. What Mr Sibal appears to

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] IEP Pilot - Preliminary Analysis

2011-12-04 Thread Vickram Crishna
Relax, Pradeep. The confusion/noise is only from the fact that OSM has been a longstanding acronym for Open Street Maps, which is an important facet of Open Knowledge Culture. To be very frank, I was completely unaware of the term OSM for Open Source Movement, and also read Tory's acronym as Open

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [[Brian Horrocks]] not an Indian FA

2011-11-30 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 8:16 PM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks Srikanth, but I'm surprised you come across it at all. Brian Horrocks was a British general, from the British Army (not from British Indian Arny), did not serve in India, not involved in any campaign where

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] People of stature unhappy with own articles

2011-11-28 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: WhereDevilsDare, As Bala pointed out, pages have to be neutral. Example:Look at any Politician's page, it's always Pro-them, rarely is it balanced. We need to have things neutral. If these guys get to

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] IEP Pilot - Preliminary Analysis

2011-11-28 Thread Vickram Crishna
Assuming this question is not restricted for WMF outreachers only: On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 5:01 PM, sankarshan foss.mailingli...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Nitika ntan...@wikimedia.org wrote: How many students edited articles outside of their in-class assignments?

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Braille/touchscreen integration

2011-11-25 Thread Vickram Crishna
that Braille is a physically read language. It is read by feeling the raised dots on a surface. Eg: On elevator buttons, a series of dots on each button. I fail to understand how a touch screen display can work here. Regards, Srikanth On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Vickram Crishna vvcris

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Braille/touchscreen integration

2011-11-25 Thread Vickram Crishna
the article and view the video, otherwise we might as well be on two different planets :-) And please don't just take my word for it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braille --Regards, On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Vickram Crishna vvcris...@radiophony.com wrote: Hello The article

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Braille/touchscreen integration

2011-11-24 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 12:11 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, I do not know exactly how Braille works but if a character in a standard script can be represented by Braille characters in stead, then all it seems to need is a method for us to replace the existing

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wiki Drugs

2011-11-21 Thread Vickram Crishna
I am not familiar with the online availability of pharmaceutical information of drugs made in India. Do websites of manufacturers not list the drugs they make? Is there any issue with citing the manufacturer's list of drugs? What about online pharmacopeia? Do Indian associations not list the

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Let's *Talk*

2011-11-15 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: And - to stay with the sandbox metaphor from another thread - if the majority of contributors to a university-based program in India can reach won't be able to contribute at an acceptable quality in WP proper, then

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Noteworthy Wikimedian Recognition

2011-11-11 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 8:04 AM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.comwrote: Do notice that we had intentionally named it as Noteworthy Wikimedian and not Best Wikimedian ! So what could you and everyone do ? Find them, nominate and recognize them. +1 On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at

[Wikimediaindia-l] Wired article: wikipedia

2011-11-08 Thread Vickram Crishna
http://www.wired.com/magazine/2011/11/st_essay_wikipediawonders/ Essentially a critique of standards being adopted (mainly by UNESCO) to classify human endeavour as worthy of being noted as 'heritage', the article points to Wikipedia as the logical embodiment of a heritage worth revering:

[Wikimediaindia-l] Wonders of the Post-Modern World - Wikipedia

2011-10-24 Thread Vickram Crishna
http://www.sunday-guardian.com/young-restless/seven-wonders-of-the-post-modern-world What are the Seven Wonders of the Post-Modern World? ... Here is a revised list: *1. Wikipedia:* The sum of all human knowledge. This is only a starting point to our greater quest in constructing the

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Aakash UbiSlate 7

2011-10-19 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 7:39 AM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.orgwrote: On 18 October 2011 17:16, Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa@gmail.com wrote: Overall, for just 3K , it seems worth buying considering its functionality like internet connectivity, phone calling, various apps etc..

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Aakash UbiSlate 7

2011-10-18 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Vickram Crishna vvcris...@radiophony.comwrote: On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.orgwrote: On 6 October 2011 12:04, Nagarjuna G nagar...@gnowledge.org wrote: This by itself may not be a problem, as long as it is copyrighted

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Aakash UbiSlate 7

2011-10-18 Thread Vickram Crishna
: Is it possible to get one of these to test the Kiwix offline Wikipedia on? Would be interesting to do some usability testing during the India Hackathon. On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 2:39 AM, Vickram Crishna vvcris...@radiophony.com wrote: Aakash is probably great value for money

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] The copyright question: What would Gandhi do?

2011-10-12 Thread Vickram Crishna
Outstanding! 3 words to change the world! On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Achal Prabhala aprabh...@gmail.com wrote: A friend of mine in South Africa, Isabel Hofmeyr, passed on this image of the first page of the first edition of the English translation of Gandhi's Hind Swaraj - or Indian

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Aakash UbiSlate 7

2011-10-06 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.orgwrote: On 6 October 2011 12:04, Nagarjuna G nagar...@gnowledge.org wrote: This by itself may not be a problem, as long as it is copyrighted with an appropriate CC clause. Let us send a representation. Will the Chapter

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiAcademy Mumbai 1 notes

2011-10-04 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.org wrote: On 4 October 2011 00:01, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com wrote: We held our first WikiAcademy in Mumbai on October 1, 2011 at the Center for Education and Documentation, Colaba. The session was attended

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] third remaider to stop the mail.

2011-10-03 Thread Vickram Crishna
I think this instruction has been sent to this ID more than once. What is the practice with WP mailing lists elsewhere in the world, when listmembers persist in ignoring replies and continue to spam the list with unsubscribe requests? Can the member (in this case, an anonymous functionary of an

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Tamizh Nadu

2011-10-02 Thread Vickram Crishna
With all due respect to the notion that many hands working can accomplish more than one, the FOSS community has been working with ELCOT to ensure this scheme was not hijacked by the proprietary vendor lobby (which nearly happened even in this round of distribution), and at least at one point in

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia in TN text books

2011-09-29 Thread Vickram Crishna
That is very interesting. Perhaps the WMF has some mechanism in place to go to court? On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote: Arun, when has any Indian government ever credited us when flicking our images? Even Doordarshan has aired photographs

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia in TN text books

2011-09-29 Thread Vickram Crishna
I am sorry that my simple query did not include my reasoning. The purpose of going to court is not to enforce rights per se for a particular photograph, but to send a signal to the government that a right enjoyed by all cannot be arbitrarily abstracted by the government, and that it amounts to

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia in TN text books

2011-09-29 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.orgwrote: Vickram: I am not insisting that WMF or the Chapter take the lead in this matter - there are plenty of NGOs and brave individuals out there fighting for the preservation of our fundamental rights. But in this

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India - AGM and Election Results

2011-09-24 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 12:29 AM, Akshay Agarwal akshay.leadin...@gmail.com wrote: Congratulations Naveen, Sudhanwa Tinu! +1 On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 8:58 PM, Jayanta Nath jayanta...@gmail.comwrote: Heartiest Congratulations to the all new board members, they should enrich our

[Wikimediaindia-l] Scholarships WCI2011

2011-09-22 Thread Vickram Crishna
Hello fellow Wikimedians As you know, we received 7,070 applications for Scholarships. The Scholarships Team have now finalised *100* *scholarship awards* on the basis of merit according to the set criteria, and individual emails are now being sent to the awardees. As you are probably aware, a

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Scholarship team : Status on August 16th, 2011

2011-09-19 Thread Vickram Crishna
We will try and send the definitive list (sans Program team's suggested names of Speakers, which is expected by month-end) by tonight to the Conference list, from where it will be disseminated, together with guidelines on how the scholarship awards will be effected. As I understand it, several

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic (Unicode) language statistics on web September 2011

2011-09-18 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Subhashish Panigrahi psubhash...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks a lot Kaśyap for this great input. It's very enlightening. Is there some way (perhaps a wikiproject) this information can be tracked on an ongoing basis, so we can see at a glance how user preferences

[Wikimediaindia-l] eBooks, Project Gutenberg, founder obituary

2011-09-10 Thread Vickram Crishna
http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Michael_S._Hart A fine tribute to a great achiever and source of inspiration for the progress of open knowledge. -- Vickram Fool On The Hill http://communicall.wordpress.com ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] On creating an Indian Wikisource

2011-09-08 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.org wrote: Hi Yann: Thanks much for this. It's nice to know that ISPs are the same the world over and do more than they are asked to do. *sigh* More to the point, the kind of action initiated by Gallimard, exceeding the

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Arthapedia - Indian Gov Site on the lines of Wikipedia

2011-09-03 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 22:20, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.org wrote: Not really a Wikipedia model, what? Crying shame about the license. Only valid concern is about license, but then if its about bridging

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] (no subject)

2011-08-31 Thread Vickram Crishna
There must be an aphorism relating to people who won't help others, remain unable to help themselves. On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa@gmail.comwrote: Hmmm See the lines at the end of the mail you receive from the list. Check those urls and help yourself.

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] On creating an Indian Wikisource

2011-08-28 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Arjuna Rao Chavala arjunar...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.comwrote: By hosting a WikiSource outside of the US and in the jurisdiction of the country. This is not limited to Wikisource. Wikimedia

[Wikimediaindia-l] Workshop at HBCSE: WikiConference 2011 Scholarships Selection

2011-08-24 Thread Vickram Crishna
With the very kind assistance and support of the Homi Bhabha Centre for Science Education, we are holding a workshop from 10-6 on Saturday, 27 August, 2011 at the Gnowledge Labs. We will be developing a routine to sort through the 7070 applications for scholarships according to the rules set with

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