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From: Matt Larsen - Lists
Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 11:16 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Connected Nation Rules
Scottie (and all other non-WISPA members on this list)
I would like
wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 9:15 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Connected Nation Rules
When WISPA decides to bow down to the wishes of Connected Nation, a
well-known and well documented anti WISP organization and smack me down
with
parroted words that were told me also
You know at the time I saw the email, I was surprised. However,
nobody on this list knows about the joke of a deal CN is like Rick and
I do. After the millions of dollars in tax revenue and all this
mapping, that public information was removed from their website.
Millions of tax paying dollars
WISPA talks to the FCC. How do you think they respond to us when we ask for
something knowing we allow such actions?
On Jan 14, 2011 11:50 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
Josh, you're comparing apples to oranges. AFAIK, CN is not a competitor
nor
a member.
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 12:43
Wow - it's amazing how different everyone's experiences with CN has been.
We've had just the opposite of most of the folks posting here. We've had
great support for our wireless efforts . . . everything from design and
engineering to going out and finding us money to do special projects with.
If
Were you paid to say that or do you honestly feel that? That would
definitely be a first praise to my ears.
On Jan 15, 2011 9:26 AM, David Hannum oujas...@gmail.com wrote:
Wow - it's amazing how different everyone's experiences with CN has been.
We've had just the opposite of most of the folks
Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 11:38 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Connected Nation Rules
Were you paid to say that or do you honestly feel that? That would
definitely
AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Connected Nation Rules
Were you paid to say that or do you honestly feel that? That would
definitely be a first praise to my ears.
On Jan 15, 2011 9:26 AM, David Hannum oujas...@gmail.com wrote:
Wow - it's amazing how different everyone's
At 1/15/2011 08:25 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
You know at the time I saw the email, I was surprised. However,
nobody on this list knows about the joke of a deal CN is like Rick and
I do. After the millions of dollars in tax revenue and all this
mapping, that public information was removed from their
Remember, it was on the general list...
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 8:26 AM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:
WISPA talks to the FCC. How do you think they respond to us when we ask
for something knowing we allow such actions?
On Jan 14, 2011 11:50 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
I didn't say that, but it is well known.
Second, Connect Kentucky came to me and asked us to be a partner to Connect
Kentucky. I said sure, send over the paperwork. It was a minimum $10k to
be listed on the associates part. $50k to be a partner. Do they honestly
think I can afford either?
At 1/15/2011 05:02 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
I didn't say that, but it is well known.
I said it, and I stand by it, noting what Chuck said as an
example. Even before the federally-funded mapping projects, CK was
operating -- it was the prototype for CN -- and it was referring
people to
Sorry Chuck - did not mean to attribute to the wrong person. Fred did say
it. But none the less, here in Ohio, We've never been asked for a penny
from Connect Ohio other than when we hired Chip Spann via Connected Nation
to do some network design for us early on. And perhaps CK opperates
Ditto here!
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 5:02 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:
I didn't say that, but it is well known.
Second, Connect Kentucky came to me and asked us to be a partner to Connect
Kentucky. I said sure, send over the paperwork. It was a minimum $10k to
be listed on the
, 2011 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Connected Nation Rules
I didn't say that, but it is well known.
Second, Connect Kentucky came to me and asked us to be a partner to Connect
Kentucky. I said sure, send over the paperwork. It was a minimum $10k to be
listed on the associates part
I did my coverage with Connected TN about a year ago and have not heard from
them since except for a revise.
Scott
- Original Message -
From: Chuck Hogg
To: WISPA General List
Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Connected Nation Rules
I didn't
@wispa.org
*Sent:* Saturday, January 15, 2011 4:02 PM
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Connected Nation Rules
I didn't say that, but it is well known.
Second, Connect Kentucky came to me and asked us to be a partner to Connect
Kentucky. I said sure, send over the paperwork. It was a minimum $10k
When WISPA decides to bow down to the wishes of Connected Nation, a
well-known and well documented anti WISP organization and smack me down with
parroted words that were told me also by the LATEST Connected Nation CEO
boy
We're done. Please remove me from the WISPA list and be happy.
Ok... What did I miss?
On 1/14/2011 10:15 PM, Robert West wrote:
When WISPA decides to bow down to the
wishes of Connected Nation, a well-known and well documented
anti WISP organization and smack me down with
The problem was the lack of maturity and how bad the content makes WISPA
look.
We have our opinions. We are people. But we, as adults and businesses or
representatives, need too display a level of advancement.
On Jan 14, 2011 9:39 PM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote:
WISPA is represented by its members.
Would you appreciate your installer doing such acts against a competitor?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 12:40 AM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
Ya know, I've
Is Bob a member?
I could be wrong - but I thought this was just on the public list ...
that being said - since Anyone can post - and Anyone can join the public list -
Perhaps it might be good for WISPA to have a disclaimer @ the Bottom of all
emails - stating
This is a public forum provided
Josh, you're comparing apples to oranges. AFAIK, CN is not a competitor nor
a member.
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 12:43 AM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:
WISPA is represented by its members.
Would you appreciate your installer doing such acts against a competitor?
Josh Luthman
Very good point.
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 1:21 AM, Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com wrote:
Is Bob a member?
I could be wrong - but I thought this was just on the public list ...
that being said - since Anyone can post - and Anyone can join the public
list - Perhaps it might be good for
: Saturday, April 10, 2010 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] connected nation mapping data
There as been some comment on this on the list.
They just contacted us as well.
My plan is to tell them to look at our website to get the coverage
area. The rest is company confidential information.
I do remember
General Listwireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] connected nation mapping data
There as been some comment on this on the list.
They just contacted us as well.
My plan is to tell them to look at our website to get the coverage
area. The rest
i
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
- Original Message -
From: "Scott Reed"scottr...@onlyinternet.net
To: "WISPA General List"wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] connected nation mapping data
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From: Scott Reedscottr...@onlyinternet.net
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] connected nation mapping data
There as been some comment on this on the list.
They just contacted us as well.
My plan is to tell them
is not a risk to disclose.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
- Original Message -
From: Scott Reedscottr...@onlyinternet.net
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] connected
, April 10, 2010 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] connected nation mapping data
There as been some comment on this on the list.
They just contacted us as well.
My plan is to tell them to look at our website to get the coverage
area. The rest is company confidential
Message -
From: Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] connected nation mapping data
I was on a conference call with the State of Nebraska broadband mapping
contractors and the Public Service
General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] connected nation mapping data
I was on a conference call with the State of Nebraska broadband mapping
contractors and the Public Service Commission this morning and came away
with a bad feeling.
Based on the Form477 data, and the PSC's broadband provider
I believe the folks doing the mapping (at least a significant part of it)
for Connected Nation are Chip Spann, Layne Wagner and John Determan. All
three of these men have significant RF and WISP background. Not sure if
they are actually engineers' but probablly 30-40 years combined wireless
; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] connected nation mapping data
I believe the folks doing the mapping (at least a significant part of it)
for Connected Nation are Chip Spann, Layne Wagner and John Determan. All
three of these men have significant RF and WISP background. Not sure
and
accommodate WISP's request for mapping?
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
- Original Message -
From: Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] connected nation
:22 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] connected nation mapping data
I agree. Can someone point to where the NTIA has published the
requirements?
Jack Unger wrote:
It would be good to see some type of documentation that the data
contractors and the PSC are telling the truth about
: [WISPA] connected nation mapping data
I was on a conference call with the State of Nebraska broadband mapping
contractors and the Public Service Commission this morning and came away
with a bad feeling.
Based on the Form477 data, and the PSC's broadband provider registration
information
: Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] connected nation mapping data
I was on a conference call with the State of Nebraska broadband mapping
contractors and the Public Service Commission
Does anyone here have any experience with Connected Nation / Connect Ohio on
them wanting data from you for their mapping purposes? They are requesting I
sign a non-disclosure agreement and then hand them over a list of all my
towers, coordinates, frequency's, antenna, cable loss, equipment
There as been some comment on this on the list.
They just contacted us as well.
My plan is to tell them to look at our website to get the coverage
area. The rest is company confidential information.
I do remember some folks in IL refusing to give them anything.
I have not seen anything that says
...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 10:26 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: [WISPA] connected nation mapping data
Does anyone here have any experience with Connected Nation / Connect Ohio on
them wanting data from you for their mapping purposes
, April 10, 2010 10:26 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: [WISPA] connected nation mapping data
Does anyone here have any experience with Connected Nation / Connect Ohio on
them wanting data from you for their mapping purposes? They are requesting I
sign a non-disclosure agreement and then hand them
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] connected nation mapping data
They are asking for detailed data for two reasons. One is to inform a
potential consumer where you offer service with what speed and price. All of
the other data is so they can run RF propagations for your whole network
, 2010 11:22 AM
To: bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com; 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] connected nation mapping data
I offered to send them google earth overlays we use that come pretty close
to reality but they said they couldn't use them.
Bob-
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun
I submitted my data to them for showing my network on their map. The
coverage map looked reasonably close to what we cover. I see no down side to
allowing them to show that your area has broadband. I can see abig downside
if this map is used for policy making and funding of where to build and you
...@shelbybb.com
http://www.shelbybb.com
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of David Hannum
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 12:16 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Connected Nation
I'm not sure I've ever posted
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Connected Nation
I think once you have been doing it at least 2 years, you will begin to
have a change of heart. We were in our infant stage. We begged for
help and cooperation on helping us get access to multiple locations.
They essentially said, Good
: [WISPA] Connected Nation
I think once you have been doing it at least 2 years, you will begin to
have a change of heart. We were in our infant stage. We begged for
help and cooperation on helping us get access to multiple locations.
They essentially said, Good luck!. All they did for us was cheerlead
://www.shelbybb.com
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Robert West
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 10:13 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Connected Nation
Maybe I'm sensitive or easily put off
:59 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Connected Nation
I think once you have been doing it at least 2 years, you will begin to
have a change of heart. We were in our infant stage. We begged for
help and cooperation on helping us get access to multiple locations.
They essentially
General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Connected Nation
Been lots of discussion about this. Without repeating all that discussion,
I think the conclusion has been, bad for us. Telco tool.
Chuck
On Dec 16, 2009, at 2:30 PM, Mike Hammett
- Original Message -
From: Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Connected Nation
Been lots of discussion about this. Without repeating all that
discussion,
I think the conclusion
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Connected Nation
My only point (and this is my last one, then I'll go back to lurking) is
that the comments appear to me that maybe we (WISPA members) were expecting
Connect Ohio / CN to be a wireless only advocate. However, at least in
Ohio, they received
: Thursday, December 17, 2009 3:27 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Connected Nation
Bob-
Take a closer look at the Connect Ohio newsletters. Both the November
edition and the Fall quarter newsletter feature WISPs ;) They speak
wireless everywhere they go.
Chris Cooper
Chuck of ShelbyBB was able to get rid of the Kentucky one. As far as I know
every other state has yet to build the immunity to the disease.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your
I must have missed this discussion, but could someone point me to some
threads where this conclusion was reached, or what some of the rationale
was? Not trying to argue just trying to understand.
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:
Chuck of ShelbyBB
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 13:40, Shaddi Hasan shad...@gmail.com wrote:
I must have missed this discussion, but could someone point me to some
threads where this conclusion was reached, or what some of the rationale
was? Not trying to argue just trying to understand.
The first two that come up
Last year the WISPA Board went through an E X T E N S I V E review and
discussion about Connected Nation. CN wanted WISPA to "join" which
would have meant that they co-opt us. The Board's conclusion was "Bad
for WISPA. CN is Telco tool".
Of course, CN didn't go away. They kept on
Do they make a Visine for that?
On 12/16/09 2:55 PM, Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com wrote:
Last year the WISPA Board went through an E X T E N S I V E review and
discussion about Connected Nation. CN wanted WISPA to join which would have
meant that they co-opt us. The Board's conclusion was Bad
Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 1:30 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Connected Nation
Has anyone determined whether Connected Nation is good or bad for us?
My state hired them
] Connected Nation
Has anyone determined whether Connected Nation is good or bad for us?
My state hired them for the map, but I don't want to respond with any
information if the things I heard in the past are still true. I don't
remember the points, I just remembered that they were bad news, so to
avoid
...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 2:30 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Connected Nation
Has anyone determined whether Connected Nation is good or bad for us?
My state hired them for the map, but I don't want
] On
Behalf Of Brian Webster
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 4:42 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Connected Nation
The way connected nation has to abide by the broadband mapping grant
rules,
is quite different from the way they have operated on past projects. The
recent threads about them
On Wed, 2009-12-16 at 14:40 -0500, Shaddi Hasan wrote:
I must have missed this discussion, but could someone point me to some
threads where this conclusion was reached, or what some of the rationale
was? Not trying to argue just trying to understand.
THis was discussed primarily on the
-
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 2:30 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Connected Nation
Has anyone determined whether Connected Nation is good or bad for us?
My state hired
Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 5:30 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Connected Nation
I concur with Robert. I went to the first or second Connect Ohio meeting
and came out laughing at what a waste of time, money and effort it was.
Then I realized I'm paying
-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 2:30 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Connected Nation
Has anyone determined whether Connected Nation is good or bad for us?
My state hired them for the map
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