Jack Unger wrote:
Once I have average CPE per WISP I can scale a percentage of those CPE
up to account for the total number of end-users taking into account some
CPE serve households, some serve businesses, some serve MDUs, etc. But I
have to start somewhere and that somewhere is average
Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
We have an official definition of a wisp. It was part of what we had to
define in order for a person/company to be a principal member.
Without knowing what Jack's up to, I imagine the more important part
would be how does the FCC define a WISP. They probably have
George Rogato wrote:
[ about The Dude ]
But it must take up a lot of resources to do this to a large 1000 node
network.
It's not quite real time - The Dude's bandwidth indicia on its maps
update every 30 seconds or so. That's roughly how often MRTG and Cacti
(and basically everything else)
Dennis Burgess wrote:
It does have a browser interface :)
Technically true, but the Dude's Web interface is sorely lacking. You
can look at stuff, but most configuration changes (especially to maps)
require the Dude client.
There's also the minor annoyance, for some, that The Dude requires
Joshua Rowe wrote:
Just wondered if anyone else had this happen and if the list management was
aware.
Well, now /everyone/ knows I'm playing with mod_security rules. :P
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Cooper Marcus wrote:
I've tried emailing the [EMAIL PROTECTED] address on the list web page
here http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless but my message
was bounced back with the following error:
If you're trying to contact the board, use the Web-based form at
John McDowell wrote:
We are looking at our first redundant fiber connection from a second carrier
and feeling the need to have our own IPs so that this will work out well.
If you're multihoming, yeah, it'll be a lot easier if you get your own
ASN and allocation of IP space.
The tricky bit is
Mike Hammett wrote:
Any recommendations for an iSCSI SAN device that will work with CentOS?
Storage capacity isn't so much an issue as reliability, availability, and
cost.
I haven't used it, but I've heard good things about OpenFiler.
(Basically, it's a customized Linux distribution that
Jack Unger wrote:
Top computer makers, mobile operators and technology providers announced
on Tuesday that upcoming laptop computers would feature mobile broadband
making them ready to surf right out of the box...
Dell, at least, has offered notebooks with internal air cards
pre-installed
Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
One of my biggest pet peeves is that there is no standard first IP address
for units. Tranzeo uses 192.168.1.100, Deliberant is using 192.168.2.66,
Teletronics is 192.168.0.240, SmartBridges used 192.168.0.24 or .22, and the
list goes on and on.
Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
H, sounds like a good project for a wispa committee to work on. Care to
head up that effort?
I can certainly try to coordinate people, but I'm nowhere near qualified
to run the show. I can take names with the best of 'em, though.
(Anyone
Note: What is standard? Trango is not standard 802.11, it is a
proprietary product. Therefore its appropriate that its MIBs may not be
802.11 standard MIBs.
I'm not saying that it is not good for vendors to standardize. But
manufacturers may have a larger goal such as backward compatibility
Matt Jenkins wrote:
You current software for the LigoPTP radios uses standard SNMP OIDs for
traffic interfaces. At least it does in Cacti.
I would really like to see Cacti templates for things like db, snr, etc.
The standard interface traffic OIDs are there on most of the recent
Tom DeReggi wrote:
There had been numerous counts in excess of 7000, and some counts as high as
10,000.
That was before we were counting WISPs. I have no idea where this is
recorded factually.
Heck, before you can even count ISPs you have to define ISP. Depending
on how picky you want to
Mario Pommier wrote:
It's an interesting objective, actually. Here's the scenario.
I'm looking for the number of ISPs in the US (small to medium ISPs, not
Verizon and Time Warner and the like) who have 50 or more business
customers.
Maybe this kind of definition helps.
Wisps, cable, dsl
How do you import longitude and latitude data into google earth?
(I'm googling on how to do it, but don't see an easy answer)
If you're using Google Earth Pro ($20 a year), you can feed it a
spreadsheet with up to 100 individual items.
If you do this sort of thing a lot, or have more than 100
I have MySQL database the has our nogo's, pending surveys and pending
installs listed in there. I would like to be able to show them in google
maps. Is there an api that will import the addresses from a MySQl database
and display those address on a webpage with google maps?
The Google Maps
Hello. I messed with the google maps api last year when i toyed with this
idea and the problem i ran into was the api wanted longitude and latitude
imputed not street addressing. Has this changed or am i missing
something??
The page to which I originally referred you:
Travis Johnson wrote:
What is the required notification distance on 18ghz licensing? I have
a tower with 18ghz links, and just found a new tower that went up about
20 miles away with 18ghz and yet I never received notification. Is there
a certain distance that they don't notify?
Did you
My network has a couple dozen RouterOS systems (mostly small
RouterBoards) doing a number of jobs, from simple routing and DHCP
server to this is a vital backhaul link. I kinda know my way around
networking concepts, so should a board fail, replacing it is easy
enough. And none of our
Scott Reed wrote:
Backup does require nearly identical equipment.
Not a problem; we really only use two or three boards here, and spares
generally are readily available.
The problem is, I want to make this simple enough for the receptionist
to do. Go edit a bunch of MAC addresses from this
I would buy one today if I could.
But if everyone bought these, where would we get those power lines for
BPL? :)
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Susan Crawford, a professor at the University of Michigan Law School,
and Kevin Werbach, a former FCC staffer, organizer of the annual tech
conference Supernova http://www.supernova2008.com/, and a Wharton
professor, will lead the Obama-Biden transition team's review of the FCC.
Both are
Josh Luthman wrote:
I don't believe
Comcast lied nor lied about it. I read in the news that they announced
their monthly bandwidth limits and Bittorent throttling practices became
well known. Is this not the case? I do believe that limiting the type of
traffic is wrong, however the amount
Mark McElvy wrote:
I am looking for wholesale bandwidth providers to either St Louis or
Rolla Missouri.
Do you need it delivered to your door, or just somewhere in town?
Saint Louis has a couple downtown telco-hotel facilities (900 Walnut and
210 Tucker, I think); you should be able to rent
Drew Lentz wrote:
Will the new 802.11y standard affect the sales of proprietary WiMAX
equipment? Since 802.11y gear operate in the 3650 - 3700 MHz band in the US,
and it's based on WiFi, isn't it a better alternative to all that expensive
WiMAX gear?
Depends on your definition of better.
It
Josh Luthman wrote:
We have all had the pleasure to earn a customer that has three kids nagging
at him for a PC and Internet access with that extra bonus check from work,
but think of the countless older couples or less fortunate families that
could really use the help catching up with the
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 09:14, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net wrote:
Sorry guys. I know its a little OT but I am the RF guy, not the network
guy. But its kind of on topic because its connected to a wireless link.
:-)
What does this tell everybody??? Its from a Cisco 2960 switch.
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 12:00, Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.com wrote:
Nintendo said to be integrating Netflix into Wii console
Nintendo is developing a way to integrate Netflix streaming into its Wii
gaming console, according to a published report. The system could be
available by the
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 13:54, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:
That just doesn't seem right - PS3 is known to have all kinds of custom
stuff. Can't you download and install Linux without a disk?
On older PS3 units, you can (they removed all pretense of
backwards-compatibility
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 15:29, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:
Ok, so we are passing back and forth negatives/positives of our current
SMTP policy, and are looking for answers on what others are doing. I'm
going to list what we have done, currently doing, and looking for
feedback on
Out of idle curiosity, have any of you IPTV folks priced CableCARDs? There's
a certain appeal in having customers provide their own equipment.
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On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 09:49, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote:
CableCARD's don't accept Ethernet...?
I was assuming using IP as a convenient way to deliver TV, as in a fiber
deployment (where the end-user only sees coax).
David Smith
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On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 09:53, Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com wrote:
Ok, but you still don't HAVE to have a car - hence you don't HAVE
to have insurance.
With the new plan, no matter what, I HAVE to pay for insurance.
But you also have to be healthy. Unless of course you're harboring
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 10:45, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote:
Bottom line is auto insurance is not required. However, they are proposing
government run health insurance will be required and you will be fined and
put in jail if you don't buy it.
[citation needed]
David Smith
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On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 10:57, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote:
While I haven't read the entire 2000+ page proposed bill I apparently have
read more of it than you.
Clearly not, or else you'd know that the fine actually is just a tax
penalty, and that the current draft of the Senate Finance
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 16:42, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote:
The free market really does work. We use it daily in our business...
Now
imagine if we used it for health care, too.We know how to do that, don't
we?
There is a fundamental difference between broadband Internet and
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 18:06, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
Someone posted earlier that the health insurance industry is not truly run
in a free market. It's failure is exactly due to this. Even after all
the government rules and regulations, who in the USA does not have access
to health
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 20:15, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:
No, not that simple...
This I gotta hear. How do you justify not providing health care to any human
that needs it?
David Smith
MVN.net
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 19:52, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
Dave, I like that idea. Will you pay for my health costs then?
That's exactly how single payer works. Everyone pays in a bit, nobody
worries about it. I'll pay my share if you pay yours. :)
David Smith
MVN.net
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 21:22, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:
Actually, most of the advancement now is coming from other countries.
We're
behind but since we live in it, we can't smell it. We rank near number 37
in health care, that certainly is not being a leader. Even our
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 21:29, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:
They will come up with new drugs, not to worry. Even at 5 bucks a bottle
they can make millions. Besides, they choose to leech cash from us because
we're the only fools to allow it. Turn off the spigot and they will
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 21:37, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote:
Medicare reimburses doctors, hospitals, etc, somewhere between 10 and 60%
of
the COST of what people who are on medicare actually get.The rest of us
who actually PAY are paying to subsidize them.
Source?
(The real number
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 22:21, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
David,
Forgive me, this is not a personal attack. I dont see it on your website so
I have to ask, you dont own mvn.net do you? The reason I ask is that you
come off with an employee mentality rather than from an owner
Source please?
http://www.pnhp.org/facts/single-payer-faq
(The overhead numbers come from Won't this be just another bureaucracy?)
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On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 22:06, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
Um, thats what happens now. I pay mine and you pay yours. So, wheres the
problem? Oh ya, there are those that cant or choose not to. So now we want
to force them to? And I thought this country was founded on freedom?
The key is
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 22:46, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote:
Think of the stereotypical government agency. Driver's license office.
Last time I was there, I was in and out in about ten minutes. Granted, that
was several years ago; the last few transactions I had with them were
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 23:01, Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com wrote:
http://www.cahi.org/cahi_contents/resources/pdf/CAHI_Medicare_Admin_Final_Publication.pdf
The Council for Affordable Health Insurance (CAHI) is an association of
insurance companies, actuarial firms, legislative
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 23:06, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote:
I've always thought this was really pretty easy.
Dave, just pick ONE family and pay their insurance for them! It's well
within your right to do so. And it helps one other family afford health
care.
I'm trying to
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 09:22, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
What's great about the commercial insurers, is that if you're not happy
with
how one company is ran, you can move to another.
Except that you often can't, thanks to the weasel words pre-existing
conditions. And even
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 09:23, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:
Yeah, you can now go buy a Linksys at wal-mart that is both 2.4 and 5 so
it's now spilling over to the 5ghz. I have a customer who has one but
unfortunately you can't operate both the 2.4 and 5 at the same time, it's
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 10:12, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:
Windy today, supposed to have gusts up to 50mph before days end.
You haven't lived until you've seen a 100' freestanding tower swaying in the
wind on a day like this. Simultaneously awesome and terrifying.
David Smith
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 10:21, 3-dB Networks wi...@3-db.net wrote:
You mean being on a 100ft self supporting tower in wind like that :-)
I don't climb, because I'm not insane. :)
David Smith
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On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 14:11, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
You can run GigE over 5e.
Not reliably, in my experience. Longer runs are more likely only to
negotiate up to 100Mbps. I know it often works, but I wouldn't want to
depend on that.
David Smith
MVN.net
On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 20:42, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 8:27 PM, Tim Sylvester t...@avanzarnetworks.com
wrote:
- connect CPE equipment to electrical service that was funded by the
Rural
Electric Administration.
Another bad deal.
I'm gonna have to call
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 12:30, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote:
Why is it we think that the same people who cannot clean up Hanford (they
have yet to clean ONE SINGLE TANK OF WASTE in decades of effort!) despite
decades of promises and countless billions in budget overruns, cannot
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 13:40, Shaddi Hasan shad...@gmail.com wrote:
I must have missed this discussion, but could someone point me to some
threads where this conclusion was reached, or what some of the rationale
was? Not trying to argue just trying to understand.
The first two that come up
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 21:56, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:
No, you were right, I was quoting from the Guide, it's just your response
reminded me of the guy who worked out 42 as the actual number.
Google calculator comes up with 42, also, if you do a search for the
meaning
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 13:24, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:
So how did it get through? :)
The grants were reviewed and scored by independent volunteers (I was one),
who scored each of them using a fairly complex rubric. It covered things
like does this meet one of the
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 11:31, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote:
On Tue, 2009-12-22 at 08:02 -0700, Phil Curnutt wrote:
I wouldn't let PETA hear about that.
PETA? People Eating Tasty Animals.
One of my college roommates seriously tried to start a campus group by that
name. Never
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 11:12, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.comwrote:
Bob Barker said that a lot too. Now Drew Carey is saying it.
Supposedly (I can't find a source for this right off), since Bob Barker was
a producer on the show at the time, continuing Bob Barker's signature
sign-off
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 10:31, Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com wrote:
We have actually started putting hot melt over the reset buttons on
company provided routers.
We just use little round stickers, of the sort found at finer yard sales and
flea markets. Serves our purpose well enough, is
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 12:03, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote:
We just bill people if they reset the routers.
Though I've had enough people tell me that they didn't reset them that I'm
convinced that the Linksys units WILL reset themselves. No one pushing any
buttons.
If the
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 10:01, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote:
Hi All,
I'm very close to putting my two networks together and will be able to run
BGP.
We're also in need of some more IP addys.
Can anyone there help me get through the process of picking up my own IP
space?
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 14:34, Patrick Leary ple...@apertonet.com wrote:
Things like Netflix do pose an interesting challenge to ISPs and I'm not
sure how best it gets addressed. Too bad users don't accept metered use
of their broadband like they do their cell phone use.
Sprint, at least,
but a CDMA
version will be released soon (for Verizon or Sprint).
Oh how I wish this were true. Even though the technologies are compatible,
Sprint refuses to activate Verizon phones and vice versa.
Google is attempting
to change the cellular landscape by selling the device directly
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 15:47, Bill Gaylord bi...@torchlake.com wrote:
What are the model numbers of the Tranzeo 900 Radios?
They're all TR-902-NFs.
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On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 08:50, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote:
The reason the Apex18 was upgraded was because it would just stop passing
data even though the rssi, BER, MSE and link lock status all showed good.
So far we haven't seen the issue again, but this problem only surfaced
every
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 15:45, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:
Before I start tearing into things and make a mess for myself, can one have
a public IP behind a transparent bridge?
Yup. I can vouch for Josh Luthman's instructions. Heck, I have the whole
turn a pair of Mikrotik
Patrick Nix Jr. wrote:
For those who may be using Google's branded services for ISPs can
someone tell me where to go to find more information and how is it
working for you.
If I were starting a new outfit today, I'd probably just let them do all
the hard work, and host all my users' email.
Frank Muto wrote:
As a ENET distributor, I'll agree with Mark. After testing various hosted
services for 18 months, I decided on ENET back in
2006. For a hosted service I feel it is the best all around email service you
can offer your customers. We use ENET mostly
for backup continuity
gnip
I thought the canonical response was pong.
(Sorry for any delays in email in the last 90 minutes or so, VMware is giving
me fits and I was tinkering with a guest - specifically, the all of WISPA's
outbound email goes through here guest.)
David Smith
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os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:
Will getting the Barracuda outbound require more hardware or is it
just a service you can turn on with the current hardware for a fee?
It's the same hardware, but you can't use one Barracuda to do both jobs.
You buy one, and you can switch the software from
Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
Are they using your webmail to send out the spam. Is there any way you can
tell what user's email address is compromised because all the mail delivery
errors I'm getting don't show one.
Yeah, my latest few problem children have been using our Web site, and
os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:
I agree, those dedicated boxes are expensive and then there's the
annual fee as well correct?
Yeah, you'd have to keep up the Barracuda subscription on your outgoing
filter as well, if you want to block current viruses and such from
leaving your network.
I think
os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:
It sounds like what you really have to do is tighten up your webmail.
It's better to fix that than to put a band-aid on it. Though a good
smtp spam filter is never a bad idea.
The problem is that the Web mail isn't broken, as such. The attackers
are using
Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
According to the website one box is capable of running as either/or. (I
thought)
But not both at the same time :(
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Mike Hammett wrote:
What about forcing those accounts to change paswords?
I've been doing that - again, I'm trying to be proactive rather than
reactive. If I told my boss yeah, we need to change everyone's
password he'd laugh at me. And not in a funny-ha-ha way.
The computer belonging to the
Dennis Burgess - Linktechs.net wrote:
Yes you have to have a good processor, it does compression. I also
believe it does MPPP as well, and larger frame sizes as well to get
higher speeds. Hence, processor usage is key.
When I was testing this - pretty informally, two radios set on the
The Imail upgrade issue has been resolved (in case anyone's curious, it
was an odd IIS permissions problem).
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Just finishing up a couple things on the misbegotten new mail server.
Please ignore this message.
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Rick Harnish wrote:
I just found one more new member, bringing the total to 19!
I thought they weren't members until they actually paid?
(I know this sounds like a smart-ass remark, but the distinction may be
relevant in the future. If there were an election next week, say, they
wouldn't be
A lot of the more expensive radios out there let you do bandwidth
throttling by device - instead of throttling by IP address, or device
MAC (because you could have several MACs behind one radio), you simply
say this radio gets X down/Y up and you're done.
Is there a simple way to do this with
Josh Luthman wrote:
Many client radios can do pppoe as well as Windows has it's own pppoe
client I am told that works quite well.
(not trolling)
PPPOE requires extra configuration for every client, requires extra
configuration at every tower, and yields relatively little practical
benefit -
Jeremy Davis wrote:
I really don't get the love affair with PPPOE; I assume there's
something I'm missing, and I've always been curious as to what.
There is a lot of cool things you can do with radius / pppoe systems, change
an IP if they haven't paid which can redirect customers to
Not really, but is everyone else seeing lots of extra traffic from
people streaming inauguration-related events in DC? My network is
pulling basically double the traffic of a normal Tuesday.
(There's a lesson about capacity planning in here somewhere...)
David Smith
MVN.net
Everyone on NANOG has been saying the same. We're actually seeing close to
triple on downloading today, starting about 9AM EST.
Thankfully no issues on capacity at all on our end... That's where I stole the
idea for this email from :)
NANOG tends to be bigger operators, and I thought this
John Valenti wrote:
I think Hulu (at least) was having problems. We had a viewing party
in our conference room. I had ABC over-the-air on the projector, but
kept a computer streaming Hulu on backup. It seemed to be
consistently about a minute behind the live broadcast.
On election
rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote:
Some of the financial and economic advisors I read from time to time are in
deadly serious mode and I believe them. They're saying that unless all
this debt and spending is stopped and stopped NOW, we're going to face a
currency collapse as our currency
Blair Davis wrote:
You have been unsubscribed from the Announcements mailing list.
That's because, while finishing up the other stuff Rick Harnish
mentioned, I made a couple typos and accidentally unsubscribed everyone.
Twice. I am a human wrecking ball, apparently.
Everyone has been
Does anyone produce a complete Mikrotik Routerboard Access Point- ie.-
routerboard, radio cards, pigtails, enclosure etc.?
Of late, I've been using Jeffco SoHo (www.jeffcosoho.com/catalog) partly
because they're only a hundred miles away, and even ground shipping arrives the
next day. They also
D. Ryan Spott wrote:
As for antivirus, just use http://www.clamwin.com/ or
http://www.clamav.net/
ClamAV was designed as a mail-scanning package, and it shows. There's no
real-time scan component for Windows, and historically it's done a poor
job of detecting things that aren't normally
Dennis Burgess wrote:
They are starting to roll out 60meg down 5up. Only in test markets
So far, that's one test market. Probably coincidental that the one
market they're doing that (Saint Louis, MO) is the market where their
corporate headquarters is located, and presumably where most of
Dylan Bouterse wrote:
I just had some BGP issues with one of my peers. Is this related you
think? Please expand on the reason for the email.
Folks on NANOG are reporting that AS48438 is doing some very silly stuff
(like trying to stuff in hundreds of AS-path prepends), which makes some
BGP
Mike Hammett wrote:
However, situations like this are why a lot of people don't take WISPs
seriously.
I figured the original question:
what is that?
was a means of saying what is this ASN and why should we be filtering
it. The original post in this thread was a BLANK email. It just said
os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:
What frightens me about taking the leap into Mikrotik is it appears
the web interface is of no use in the advanced configuration and it
sounds like one must get heavily into the CLI and scripting. I don't
see an online repository of scripts for
I made a copy of the stimulus bill's complete text, just so you don't
have to go searching through the Library of Congress database to find it
(not that it's hard to do), here: http://images.bureau42.com/sa/stimulus.htm
This is the version that both the House and Senate have passed, and
which
Blake Bowers wrote:
Are you sure that is the final bill? Reason I ask,
one of the line items I have been watching is the FEMA
money to build or modify fire stations. In a meeting I had
with FEMA last night, they advised the amount had been
cut to 210 million, yet the link you show has it
St. Louis Broadband wrote:
That is not the same bill that I read. There are revisions that are not
included. The new bill is 680 pages and then there is HR 1 A and HR1 B,
making it a bit over 1000 pages.
I think you're right, though it doesn't change the numbers too much. I
always forget
Mike Hammett wrote:
I'm looking at remote-backup.com. It seems to be what I'm looking for, but
I'd like to know what other, similar options are out there.
What are you trying to do that Mozy doesn't do?
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