[WISPA] My comment (was bandwidth management)

I was out most of yesterday, so I missed responding to the bandwidth management thread. I don't want to respond to any of the individual emails at this point. Below is a summary of responses in not particular order. I believe customers should pay for the bandwidth they want/need and in turn t

Re: [WISPA] Advanced Bandwidth Management

Have you thought about selling the customer a pipe that works for any and all traffic at the speed the customer signed up for as opposed to deciding for the customer? -Matt Jason wrote: List, Several times in the last few weeks the topic of bandwidth management has been discussed, but "I

Re: [WISPA] GigaBeam

Marty Dougherty wrote: Can you tell us more about your bridgewave links? How have they performed? We haven't had a single problem with them. They perform as advertised. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Re: [WISPA] GigaBeam

Brett Meier wrote: Has anyone worked with GigaBeam's products? http://www.gigabeam.com We are more happy with Bridgewave's offering. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archi

Re: [WISPA] Dual-WAN routers

RickG wrote: Dave, Thanks for the explanation. Really, my clients want to improve their browsing speed. Of course, like most people, they associate speed with speed test website such as speakeasy, etc. In order to improve speed you need lower RTT and less congestion/packet loss on any given rou

Re: [WISPA] Wireless Backhaul - Where Do I Begin?

It appears you are about 30 miles LOS to where cheaply available bandwidth is located. Depending on the height of your tower and the height of the building on the other end, just about any 5.8Ghz backhaul should get you there. I would assume you don't even a lot of bandwidth since you have a T1

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Program/Script for Web Server?

Butch Evans wrote: If you are looking for a "fancy" version, you can license the one from http://www.ookla.com/speedtest/. That's a pretty expensive option, though. Just host a speedtest.net site. It only costs you bandwidth. You can try ours at the Atlanta speedtest.net location. -Matt -

[WISPA] One Ring Networks Optimizes Network Performance with Internap

Matt Liotta, Founder of One Ring Networks. “The result for One Ring’s customers is faster, higher-quality connections.” One Ring Networks currently multi-homes with four network service providers (NSPs), including a major European carrier. While carrier diversity is beneficial, the company wanted

Re: [WISPA] recommendation for Client POE integrated radiofor 802.11b/g

Jack Unger wrote: Probably 90% of public safety organizations' Emergency Communications Plans have made use of ham radio operators for years and continue to make use of hams today. While a ham could certainly make use of unlicensed spectrum, consumer access points, and best effort internet conn

Re: [WISPA] recommendation for Client POE integrated radiofor 802.11b/g

Jack Unger wrote: OK, I'll forgive the analogy but, in a real emergency, you have to do what needs to be done. Actually, in an emergency a public safety organization should make use of their emergency communication plan, which really shouldn't rely on unlicensed spectrum, a consumer access po

Re: [WISPA] latest AT&T filing

Apparently, the rumor is the deal will be approved by the end of the day today. Seems like there should be some time period for public comment. -Matt Matt Liotta wrote: http://www.fcc.gov/ATT_FINALMergerCommitments12-28.pdf -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe

[WISPA] latest AT&T filing

http://www.fcc.gov/ATT_FINALMergerCommitments12-28.pdf -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

Re: [WISPA] bits per mbps

Jonathan Schmidt wrote: True, Matt, often a better way. Now, what to do with P2P abusers? Sell them more bandwidth? -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless

Re: [WISPA] bits per mbps

You don't need to host Akamai boxes and/or rely solely on Akamai's customers content for an improvement in experience and a decrease in transit cost. IMHO, the easier way is to simply peer with the various CDNs. If you peer with Akamai, LimeLight, Google, Yahoo, etc you won't pay for transit of

[WISPA] Live from Milpitas, Earthlink WiFi (so far not so good)

http://gigaom.com/2006/12/20/earthlink-sf-milpitas/ "Getting residents to subscribe might be more difficult. I used the network on my laptop in a dozen different places around city hall, at shopping centers, and around main streets and found that the network was slow and the coverage was spott

[WISPA] new S-1 from Clearwire

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1285551/89102006000416/v25599sv1.htm From the filing... "Subscribers have rapidly adopted our services as we have grown from 1,000 wireless broadband subscribers as of September 30, 2004 to more than 188,000 subscribers as of November 30, 2006. We est

Re: [WISPA] salary

Travis Johnson wrote: "Everyone in an S Corp has to get the same benefits - so if you take health care, so does every employee" is incorrect. We have consulted with our accountant and our attorney on this exact matter. We have about 30% of our employees with health insurance and 70% without. I

Re: [WISPA] building out

I fully agree with Peter. -Matt Peter R. wrote: Tom, My limited exposure has a different perspective: It is easier to keep building out instead of selling deep. A prospect comes to the WISP with a $400 per month pipe and the WISP builds to him. There is the hope (and the hype) that this pros

[WISPA] One Ring's Combination of Wired and Wireless Connections Means 100 Percent Up Time for Coal Marketing

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Re: [WISPA] ISPCON Orlando May 23-25

Tom DeReggi wrote: We currently got a 30 mbps wireless link from our master data center to an Internap datacenter building, about 1/4 mile away. We were thinking of getting a second transit from them, and upgrading the link speed to their building. At that distance even 60Ghz could work. We do

Re: [WISPA] ISPCON Orlando May 23-25

CHUCK PROFITO wrote: attachments don't seem to get through. Can you post a link? http://www.oneringnetworks.com/fcp.jpg -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wire

Re: [WISPA] ISPCON Orlando May 23-25

Tom DeReggi wrote: I'd take it one step further... Protocols to optimize QOS on Transit routing. Is BGP good enough anymore? What options are there to do the equivellent of OSLR for Transit and peering. For example, what merit is there to Internap's smart routing theories? We own a Internap F

Re: [WISPA] high throughput backhaul options

Travis Johnson wrote: And, how much do you like the price? I haven't gotten final pricing yet, but I was led to believe it was comparable to Orthogon. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://li

Re: [WISPA] high throughput backhaul options

Tom DeReggi wrote: If our link is up, and we see new interference on it, we go after the interferer until they move. I can tell you, if someone puts up a radio using all 100mhz of spectrum, and it happens to cross one of our cellsite or subscribers taking them down, the offendor's link will be

Re: [WISPA] high throughput backhaul options

I spent an hour or so yesterday on the phone with the Director of Sales for Exalt. We are working on getting one of their backhauls in for testing now. From the specs... I like that I can deploy it similar to Canopy backhauls because of the sync. I like that it is a tri-band radio like the Tr

Re: [WISPA] high throughput backhaul options

Bob Moldashel wrote: You can do that now with 3 Ceragon or Dragonwave radios phased into 1 antenna with much better redundancy. If one link dies you still have the other two. How are you phasing the radios together without significant loss? -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] high throughput backhaul options

Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: Several of us on this list know how to shut down these large channel backhauls, and have done so when they have intentionally interfered with our operations. Be ready for someone to do the same to you if you try using a full-band backhaul. More than one operator who

Re: [WISPA] high throughput backhaul options

Tom DeReggi wrote: Matt, If you live in a remote area, with no potential interferers, then my comment does not apply. But last I heard you were deploying in the middle of Urban Atlanta and possibly Urban DC, with the potential for many interferers eventually. We mostly deploy in urban areas,

Re: [WISPA] high throughput backhaul options

Matt Liotta wrote: Its not greedy; efficient maybe, but not greedy. Whoops... meant inefficient. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

Re: [WISPA] high throughput backhaul options

Tom DeReggi wrote: Because its greedy. Its not greedy; efficient maybe, but not greedy. And when your competitors is unsensitive to the fact that you are greedy, he combats your spectrum/radio, and you or he has no where to go (spectrum wise) for a resolution, he will win because he doesn;t h

Re: [WISPA] high throughput backhaul options

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Gigacom product is the only one that you can get any real long distance out of depending on the freq. They have licensed radios that perform very well in the rainforest of South America at very long distance. 60k or 40 miles for some applications at speeds of up to

Re: [WISPA] high throughput backhaul options

Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: NOo NO one should buy ANY radio anymore that uses the entire band and is always on. No more WMux fiascos needed. Why not? -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinf

Re: [WISPA] high throughput backhaul options

John Scrivner wrote: Wow! Business must be good! That depends on your perspective. We have a ton of orders and are racing to service them all. The more we install the more capacity upgrades we have to do meaning even more installs. This kind of growth is extremely challenging because if it is

Re: [WISPA] high throughput backhaul options

Tim Kerns wrote: The Orthagon 600 series is supposed to do 300 mb on a 30 Mhz channel. I believe they do this using both vert and hor polarity. Is this the system you are out growing? First of all, 300Mbps is an aggregate figure. Second, in a low latency deployment at 5-10 miles it is not pos

Re: [WISPA] high throughput backhaul options

Andrea Coppini (AIR Networks) wrote: Are you looking at Unlicensed? I'm a fan of Mikrotik for high throughput, long distance links. With bonding you can easily get > 100Mbps speeds, just keep adding links as your need grows. See this: 150 Mbps FDX, unlicensed, with failover http://wiki.mikrot

[WISPA] high throughput backhaul options

Guys, We are now exceeding Orthogon's capacity on a regular basis. We are backhauling as much as we can with fiber, but that isn't an option in the suburbs. We have had good success with BridgeWave's products, but the distance is a problem. Any suggestions on a product that can do high throug

[WISPA] Canopy 8.1 firmware

For those of you running Canopy, we recently upgraded some of radios to the latest firmware. We did this because of the continuing Ethernet problems we were having with them. I am happy to report the new firm does indeed fix the Ethernet negotiation issues mentioned in the release notes. We hav

Re: [WISPA] One method to calculate a fair Multiple for Evaluation

Brad Belton wrote: We've owned property that simply wasn't for sale...we were proven wrong. At the right price anything is for sale! That is the great thing about real estate; location matters. In other industries, it is easy enough just go around if the business isn't for sale. We have no

Re: [WISPA] One method to calculate a fair Multiple for Evaluation

Peter R. wrote: Tom, It is a negotiation between what one is willing to pay for a business and what one is willing to sell it for. Everything is for sale. It is a matter of the price whether they will or not. Which is why evaluation models only serve to get the negotiation started; not to m

Re: [WISPA] Industry failings

Peter R. wrote: Why do you think there is so much M&A activity? It is difficult to organically grow sales. So companies buy growth. That is true, but there is nothing wrong with organic growth coupled with acquisition. Organic growth can get easier with size up until the law of large numbers k

Re: [WISPA] Industry failings

Dustin Jurman wrote: Being an ISP you understand build out costs, some put a lot more into a site than others. We'd probably do things a little differently, maybe not. Here is what I do know. WinStar's plan assumed a 10 year ROI on a site. In hindsight that seems rather foolish now, but back

[WISPA] Wi-Fi deployment manager

We have an upcoming Wi-Fi deployment that involves around 50 Wi-Fi nodes installed at street level along with the associated backhauls of these nodes. We will be using gear from a vendor we don't have much experience with (They were selected for other reasons). Anyway, we are looking for a per

Re: [WISPA] Industry failings

Rick Smith wrote: We built a large network here in NJ - across 12 locations, and it covers 1000's of potential accounts with no access to dsl or cable. Now looking for someone to come in with some operating / capex capital and get some real growth going. Been in business plan mode for a week

Re: [WISPA] Industry failings

Dustin Jurman wrote: Matt can you send some links for those sources. http://www.fibertower.com/investors-earnings-releases.shtml -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/piperm

Re: [WISPA] Industry failings

Dustin Jurman wrote: Fiber Tower is rocking the house. They are very focused and have a core nitch of customers that not only love their service but are willing to send lots of jobs and money to them. Oh.. And they are executing like white on rice. Are you joking? A quick read of their fin

[WISPA] Industry failings

One the biggest factors holding our industry back is a lack of success on the part of the big poster children. People look at the past failures of WinStar and Teligent and wonder if new entrants can succeed. Many investors are watching FiberTower and NextLink to see if these new poster children

Re: [WISPA] New Recording LAW in effect today?

I find it interesting that people are stating their organizations are common carriers. The term common carrier has a very specific legal meaning. Specifically, a common carrier is an entity licensed by the FCC or a state agency to supply local and/or long distance telecommunications services to

Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi Faces New Patent Woes

Peter R. wrote: The question remains why the Australian organisation is deciding to pursue this patent at this stage in the market. While companies must be able to reap the rewards of their own research and development, there also must be consideration for the positive effects that low cos

Re: [WISPA] Re: Anyone using Exalt radios????

Charles Wu wrote: You would have to get in touch w/ a Dragonwave Distributor =) -Charles <--- Dragonwave Distributor who supports WISPA Does your company also take care of the license search and procurement process? -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:

Re: [WISPA] Anyone using Exalt radios????

Gino A. Villarini wrote: Huh...dont they ? No, none of the Canopy high-speed backhauls do. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

Re: [WISPA] Anyone using Exalt radios????

Gino A. Villarini wrote: Spectras also have GPS sync, plus fiber interfaces Since when have Spectras had GPS sync? -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

Re: [WISPA] So, ya'll wondered who'd be the first to comment

Brad Belton wrote: Not making the Bush tax relief permanent is raising your taxes. No if, ands or buts. Actually no, it isn't. For all you know the Bush tax cut could be replaced with a different tax cut. You don't know; none of us do. Further, this isn't even relevant until 2009 when ther

Re: [WISPA] So, ya'll wondered who'd be the first to comment

Mark Koskenmaki wrote: Huh. It isnt' clear that taking more money from your business with nothing in return hurts your business? It isn't c lear that taking money from your customers and potential customers can hurt your business? What can I say... Some folks must be able to walk on water.

Re: [WISPA] Vonage and Fax

Brad Belton wrote: We now have a Level3 voice product that is far more flexible than Vonage or our Nuvio offerings. Voice and data haven't been an issue and are far superior to any LEC offering. Haven't tried fax over Level3 yet, but I'm sure we'll have the opportunity to do so soon. Which

Re: [WISPA] So, ya'll wondered who'd be the first to comment

I always find it interesting that people like to spread FUD about taxes. At this point, there is no new tax plan presented, so there is no way to know what impact it will have. Further, from an economic standpoint, it isn't clear that lower taxes are good for businesses. Regardless, this list d

Re: [WISPA] Vonage and Fax

Brad Belton wrote: Construction sites many times have no option other than wireless data and Vonage fax lines. They make do with what they have and make the best of it. At least in our markets constructions sites get wireless data and voice with working fax directly from us. -Matt -- WIS

Re: [WISPA] Vonage and Fax

Guess you're not part of the class action lawsuit against Vonage regarding fax lines. ;) -Matt Brad Belton wrote: lol...sounds like you've had a rough time with Vonage and faxes. I've been a Vonage customer since December 2002 and have been running my DirecTV, home security and occasional fax

Re: [WISPA] ot data conversion

1 bit = 1.16415322 × 10-10 gigabytes 1 gigabyte = 8,589,934,592 bits -Matt Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Hi All, We get an ip usage accounting file sent to us once per month. The numbers are huge. What is the formula to convert bits to GB? thanks! Marlon (509) 982-2181

Re: [WISPA] FREE OSS and Billing Software for WiSPS

Brian Rohrbacher wrote: Socould you give it away? :) I could... but how would I recover the costs of all the support that would surely follow? And no, the answer is not to charge for it since that would put me into the software business. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] FREE OSS and Billing Software for WiSPS

Tom DeReggi wrote: But if someone made the right product it would sell, and it would be profitable. It just costs most software developers to much to build it because they do not fully understand the business, and its learning the business that is expensive for the developer, in my opionion. (

Re: [WISPA] FREE OSS and Billing Software for WiSPS

Brian Rohrbacher wrote: I guess I'm just lucky enough to find someone in the billing department who will print it. For the customers that we bill more than $2000 per month only about 10% will accept an electronic bill. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:

Re: [WISPA] FREE OSS and Billing Software for WiSPS

Brian Rohrbacher wrote: This is something I don't get. What is the difference between me generating the bill, emailing it out, and them printing it.vsme generating the bill...me printing it outletting snail mail pick it up. It's the same. Both times it is generated, pr

[WISPA] Alvarion’s BreezeMAX Now Enables Prima ry Voice Services over WiMAX

http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20061030005461&newsLang=en -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

Re: [WISPA] FREE OSS and Billing Software for WiSPS

I like how they end their pitch... "The reason and dreams behind getting into the WiSP business in the first place can finally be realized by contracting with RidgeviewTel’s WiSP Services division." -Matt Brian Rohrbacher wrote: FREE OSS and Billing Software for WiSPS And then there are all

Re: [WISPA] FCC definitions

We have been advised that providers of internet services are not required to file form 499. However, we were additionally advised that providers of transport services are required to file form 499. We provide transport services in addition to internet services and as such file form 499. I belie

Re: [WISPA] 60GHz radio trial

You're welcome to deploy with us since we are the closest wireless operator to you. You can even deploy it alongside one of our Bridgewave units if you want. We have roof rights on almost 200 buildings here, so there is a wide range of choices. -Matt One Ring Networks, Inc. 1230 Peachtree St.

Re: [WISPA] Are you making money?

I believe you are applying a very simplistic view on a very complex subject. Leases are a financial tool and like any other tool must be used correctly in order to provide benefit. The CAPEX associated with wireless is a serious cash flow issue that operators must deal with. Leases provide a me

Re: [WISPA]CovadExpandsBroadband WirelessNetworkWithDataFloAcquisition

Tom DeReggi wrote: I believe in the next year there will be a hgih volume bid war for WISPs in major markets getting top dollar. The reason is that, the Hype of Wireless is more valuable to a large publically traded ISP, in stock holder perception, than the network and revenue that they are buy

[WISPA] Airband acquires RedWire with eye on WiMAX

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Re: [WISPA] Covad ExpandsBroadband WirelessNetworkWithDataFloAcquisition

Charles Wu wrote: But, minority stock in a privately held company (or even many "public" OTC companies) is generally worthless Without arguing the point, stock valuations are higher than cash because of the added risk. If you look at the NextWeb purchase, which was 3x revenue; a good portio

Re: [WISPA] Covad Expands Broadband WirelessNetworkWithDataFloAcquisition

rwf wrote: I guess... If you want to give your company away. Your WISP is for sale, I believe- would you take that if offered? I'm sure Matt wants to expand his network up thataway . I would certainly be interested in picking up companies at such a valuation. However, I am only interested in

Re: [WISPA] Nuvio Down?

Peter R. wrote: Sylantro doesn't deal with small at all. (The price of the switch and licensing makes that prohibitive). But one of my clients is selling partitions on their Sylantro to ISPs interested in offering their own VoIP - and controlling their destiny. I would assume that would mean t

Re: [WISPA] BST Wireless Deployed in 10 cities

Sam Tetherow wrote: The announcement was 'pre-wimax' which means damned near anything EXCEPT wimax ;) I would think if they were looking at .16e they would announce it to be the most buzzword complaint. BST is running CDMA using Navinia, which is supposed to be upgradeable to WiMAX. -Matt

Re: [WISPA] Covad Expands Broadband Wireless Network With DataFlo Acquisition

Does anyone know anything about DataFlo? According to the press release it appears they were bought for 1.4x revenue, which seems awfully cheap. -Matt Peter R. wrote: Covad Communications Group Inc. announced it will acquire the assets of DataFlo Communications LLC, a Chicago-based broadband w

Re: [WISPA] Nuvio Down?

This is why we have redundant AND diverse upstream connections for voice. We had call quality issues with Level3 and just rerouted around them. -Matt Peter R. wrote: It could be that Nuvio isn't watching Level(3) as L3 changes it's BGP tables twice a day. Or it could be they are experiencing

Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle / Global signal

Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: why? Who are they? Our two biggest landlords. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

[WISPA] City should re-evaluate value of WiFi

http://www.tbnweekly.com/editorial/readers_poll/content_articles/100506_pol-06.txt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

Re: [WISPA] Legal insight? - OTARD VS Property Managers

OTARD is all well and good, but that doesn't help you with MTUs or MDUs. OTARD only applies to areas of exclusive control by the tenant. That means common areas such as roofs of apartment and office buildings are not affected by OTARD. In cases where OTARD does apply, the property manage has t

Re: [WISPA] Where to test my new DS3

Gino A. Villarini wrote: Where can I test it to... If you setup the iperf server I will hammer it with as much bandwidth as it can handle. ;) Hey Matt, btw, nice PR on Yahoo what gear you are using to provide the customers OSPF ? Cisco -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.o

Re: [WISPA] Where to test my new DS3

Setup an iperf server. -Matt Gino A. Villarini wrote: Anyone know of a high cap BW tester? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.or

[WISPA] BridgeWave Empowers One Ring to Rule Atlanta's Skies

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Re: [WISPA] Current Bandwidth Prices?

KyWiFi LLC wrote: How much is everyone paying for good quality bandwidth? We're in the market for 10Mbps - 20Mbps and we're seeing pricing around $100 a meg for the bandwidth only (we'll be providing our own transit via wireless). This is for Sprint bandwidth via fiber (upstream has two OC12 circ

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

Patrick Leary wrote: I'm speaking about multipoint matt, not ptp. The dedicated ptp you are doing is by far the exception. Canopy is designed, built, and sold to be primarily a pmp system. I've never met or heard of a Canopy pmp network of any scale that did not require GPS. I'd be interested

Re: [WISPA] ARIN IP Application

Tom DeReggi wrote: I thought a /20 was the minimum allocation. Also not sure that it would be cost justified for IP blocks smaller than /19 all things considered. When it comes to IPs you can't cost justify it since you can't justify a larger block, but need the protection of not having to re

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

Patrick Leary wrote: Why is that the case? You really think GPS on Canopy is some cool feature? Canopy must have GPS to function. Without it, it kills itself. It is all to prevent self-inflicted interference (remember, Canopy does not even have ATPC) and to allow for channel re-use. Other systems

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs

I know its not the same thing, but Orthogon's radios do OFDM across both polarities at the same time, which works out quite well. -Matt Brad Larson wrote: Brad Belton, Respectfully, there are 100's of wisp's proving you wrong. OFDM in UL has its place and making blanket statements to the contr

Re: [WISPA] ARIN IP Application

Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Matt Liotta wrote: David E. Smith wrote: (ARIN usually doesn't need to be involved unless you're working with at least a /22 allocation, which is 1024 IPs.) ARI

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs

A quick look at Trango's and Alvarion's data sheets seem to show that Alvarion has a higher receive sensitivity, which would seem to confirm your statement. -Matt Patrick Leary wrote: There are arguments against dual band support, as we have discussed before, though you ridicule our sincere r

Re: [WISPA] ARIN IP Application

David E. Smith wrote: (ARIN usually doesn't need to be involved unless you're working with at least a /22 allocation, which is 1024 IPs.) ARIN could be involved if you have a swiped /24 or bigger and want to multi-home. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs

I have yet to use an Alvarion radio or for that matter one without RSSI. However, I would think that using SNR is a perfectly reasonable way to align a link. -Matt G. villarini wrote: Patrick, Rssi is very important to determine if a link is properly aligned and its achieving its link budge

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs

Charles Wu wrote: You guys are argueing about irrelevant topics Didn't realize we were arguing or that the topic so many have responded to was irrelevant. If memory serves me correctly, you provide non-oversubscribed wireless DIA (leased line replacement) for SMB/Enterprises in a Tier1/2 ur

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs

Travis Johnson wrote: The biggest reason we use Trango is because we sell our wireless service as symmetrical. Even on the residential level, if they purchase 512k they get 512k down and 512k up. So, if I use Canopy, I have to do a 50/50 split, which means even the Advantage product only provi

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs

Gino A. Villarini wrote: GPS sync is extra $$. Of course you can also just string sync cables between radios for free. True, but this is truly what makes canopy works and you have nice 3rd party options like www.lastmilegear.com and www.packetflux.com for the gps sync units that start @ les

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs

Travis Johnson wrote: Our biggest problem is frequency availability at all (regardless of radio choice)... we have a 2.4ghz AP at a repeater station that is "full". We attempted to install a second sector today and ran a site survey at this location across the entire 2.4ghz band, the "aver

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion VL Fixes Problems with Backhaul Links

Patrick Leary wrote: You pay more per customer than an Alvarion user Matt since all your customers are on dedicated PtP shots though, right? Last time I looked at Alvarion's pricing that wasn't the case. We do use a lot PtP shots, but all of our customers aren't on dedicated PtP shots. We d

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion VL Fixes Problems with Backhaul Links

I am not suggesting that Canopy shouldn't be better, but it is certainly better than good enough. Again, not only are we leading the industry in ARPU, we also doing hundreds of thousands of VoIP minutes every month. -Matt Brad Larson wrote: Jon, Canopy is not fast enough for many now and voip

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion VL Fixes Problems with Backhaul Links

I believe we have one of the highest APRUs in the business and we use Canopy (including Orthogon). We do like the Trango Atlas, but only for limited deployment. I don't really think the price of the radio correlates to the revenue of the service. -Matt Tom DeReggi wrote: As much as I've pro

Re: [WISPA] Lack of Competition

I wouldn't think you would be required to use FDD. 802.16e supports varying channel widths, so you could for example deploy a multi-point system with two 10Mhz channels or six 3Mhz channels all TDD. -Matt John Scrivner wrote: Tom DeReggi wrote: Scriv,Congrads on the spectrum win. Thank y

Re: [WISPA] iTunes movie downloads announced

and be 20 minutes into the movie in the same amount of time ;) I'm sure we'll see an uptick while it is new though. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Matt Liotta wrote: I expect we will be seeing an uptick in download traffic following the availability of this service. -Matt

Re: [WISPA] OT: OpenSER and CCME

We haven't tried that exact configuration, but our experience with Cisco was that on the voice front it wasn't very interoperable. Specifically, we never got it work correctly unless it was Cisco end-to-end. We also didn't care much for SCCP as the rest of the world decided on SIP. More recentl

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