Gentlemen and ladies,
Up her in Ontario Canada, Bell by law puts a "network" charge on
"rural" phone accounts which they keep. The purpose of this money is
to assist them to expand broadband into rural communities. Now I have
supplied broadband to some of this community, but the charges re
Hey guys,
I have a farmer that wants farm coverage with
little or no trouble. He wants to browse from his tractor while the
satelite guides his tractor for him. I am putting out 2.4 from his
Elevator leg, and I believe with an omni he can get signal, is there a better
way to do this?
P
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From: "David E. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 11:46 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] It's been a long road
> Mark Koskenmaki wrote:
>
> > When they ask you for your customer's address and IP numbers, what will
> > you do
Yeah, try an alvarion mobile 900 mhz
solution. You can give 100% mobile coverage, with automated
handoffs.
he might have to sell the farm to afford it, but
that's a solution :)
North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061personal correspondence
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I have to say I agree with Mark on this. We operate WISP's because it
is unregulated for the most part. How many of us can survive if the FCC
decides WISP's are now regulated? Even if none of the laws change
(spectrum, EIRP, etc.) you now have to have your financials audited
every single year.
Or you can do some tricks with wifi and
some amps.
Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
114 S. Walnut St.
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
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Of Mark Koskenmaki
Sent: Saturday, February
As long as you stay within the power limits.
Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
Or you can
do some tricks with wifi and
some amps.
Kurt
Fankhauser
WAVELINC
114 S.
Walnut St.
Bucyrus, OH
44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
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Message-
David E. Smith wrote:
I knew Oregon was a strange place
with relatively relaxed laws, but still...
I'm sure you joking about Oregon being a strange place...
Oregon is a very nice place to live, one of the more livable places to
live I might add.
As for Internet, Oregon has one of the higher
Winds in my area knocked power out early this morning (GEORGE R - heard you
guys had 100mph gusts on the Oregon coast...how'd it go?).
I power all my WiPOPs with an APC UPS (Smart-UPS 700) and grid power. They
keep the sites up for 2-3 hours depending on equipment load at the site. I
put in
Are you saying you don't have solar/wind power at this site and you
constantly shuttle gas?
Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
114 S. Walnut St.
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mark Nash
Sent: Saturda
Have you considered verizion pcmcia card?
Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
114 S. Walnut St.
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Ross Cornett
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006
7:3
Hi,
Is your generator a "computer friendly" type? We have both a Honda and
Yamaha 1000 generators that deliver clean power (you can plug
electronics into them directly without problems). Those will charge the
UPS. The other thing we did was hook up a 5 gallon gas can with fuel
line directly t
Correct.
-Original Message-
From: "Kurt Fankhauser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 12:47:59
To:"'WISPA General List'"
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Generator --> UPS
Are you saying you don't have solar/wind power at this site and you
constantly shuttle gas?
Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
11
Thanks Travis. I know that the Coleman is not 'computer-friendly' but I haven't
had a problem yet with it powering our equipment...just the problem with the
UPS.
How'd you rig you gas can...that IS the big problem with these smaller-wattage
generators is the tank size. Got photos?
-Origina
George wrote:
> I'm sure you joking about Oregon being a strange place...
Any state that won't let me pump my own gas is strange in my book. :)
dave
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I have to agree. :)
Travis
David E. Smith wrote:
George wrote:
I'm sure you joking about Oregon being a strange place...
Any state that won't let me pump my own gas is strange in my book. :)
dave
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Hi,
We just took the side panels off and got the size of fuel line we
needed. We went to Ace Hardware and purchased 4 feet of hose and a
connector. We just unhooked the line from the existing tank and hooked
it to the line going into the 5 gallon can. We put a couple flat
washers on the bottom
(Don't respond George...if they like pimping gas so much we've got some jobs
here for them!). I grew up in L.A. I have to say there's no gas pump I'M in
love with. ;)
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From: Travis Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 11:10:58
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Subj
I solved your tree problem!
http://cgi.ebay.com/500KV-Transmission-Towers-3-never-assembled_W0QQitemZ7587039895QQcategoryZ57118QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
:-D
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Try adjusting the frequency (speed) of the generator. This may get it to
work with your APC Smart UPS.
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From: "Mark Nash" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 6:36 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Generator --> UPS
Winds in my area kn
I think we seem to have a little bit of twisting of thoughts and words
that needs to get put to rest. First, I do not PROMOTE regulation in
stating my position that I think we need to all fill out the FCC Form
477 which is mandated by the FCC to track broadband subscriber counts in
the United S
If you plug something into the surge only outlet on the UPS then when the
power goes down intermapper or whatever you use will let you know
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From: "Mark Nash" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 11:36 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Gener
I'm a little confused here. I'm working on a 300 ft run of cat5 and
have a question. The radio is acting sparatic. The power supply has
already been upped from a 18v to a 24v. Both 1 amp. Will it hurt to
put a 24v 2 amp power supply in? If I "over do" on amps or volts, what
blows a radio.
Mark,
I have used a 6 gallon portable gas tank that is normally used with a
small outboard boat motor. You can purchase from a boat dealer and it
even included a fuel gauge in the filler cap. Works like a charm. Just
make sure that you position the can above the engine.
Should allow you to run 10
Where do you get your generators? It's not like they need a ton of
juice. Small ones maybe? Can they be had pretty cheap? My noc is
small and requires not too much power.
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Cheapest on froogle.
http://www.ioffer.com/i/1000-Watt-Electric-Gasoline-Generator-9934236
Run it through a battery backup and call it good???
Would 1000 Watts run a couple computers and radios?
Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
Where do you get your generators? It's not like they need a ton of
juic
Brian,
I'm normally a lurker, but maybe your problem is in the 300' run of CAT5.
What kind is it? You may be getting signal degradation which is causing the
sporadic radio behavior.
Sean
JohnnyO's evil twin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behal
It's not actually mine. It's another's from the list. We were talking
about it. But I am sure that on my 230 ft run of cat 5 that I had to
replace an 18v 1a with an 18v 2a to get the radio to stop rebooting.
The individual I was talking to thought if you up the amps it will kill
the radio.
Hi,
Personally I would recommend something more like this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/YAMAHA-inverter-GENERATOR-EF1000i-1000-watts_W0QQitemZ7542967545QQcategoryZ106437QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
No need for a battery backup system, you can plug directly into it. Much
quieter, more fuel effe
Over voltage will kill the radio or board current is only drawn as needed.
Chuckk
Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
It's not actually mine. It's another's from the list. We were talking
about it. But I am sure that on my 230 ft run of cat 5 that I had to
replace an 18v 1a with an 18v 2a to get the ra
Increasing the Voltage beyond the specifications will kill the radio.
Putting a higher power - (current) PSU shouldn't hurt the radio. The radio
will 'draw' the needed current only.
The power consumption if assumed constant,
P (Power) = I (Current) x V (Voltage)
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F
Well, I'm still at the point where the money in my checkbook is worth
more than my time. I guess I can get 6 of the others and tolerate the
noise and run around with fuel. 6 sites with backup is better than one
"fancy" one.
Travis Johnson wrote:
Hi,
Personally I would recommend something
Lets exaggerate here. I can plug a billion amps in and it will only
draw what it wants, but if I go a volt or two over it fries.
Chuckk wrote:
Over voltage will kill the radio or board current is only drawn as
needed.
Chuckk
Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
It's not actually mine. It's another's
A caveat with higher current capacity power supplies (esp. replacing one
kind of battery chemistry with another) is their internal impedence
characteristics may vary, and if the electronics being run assume a certain
impendence, things may go awry. A specific case is replacing alkaline
batteries i
That is correct. Now if you use a 10 amp supply and only need 2 amps and
there is a short up top there is a good chance you will burn your cat 5
cable up.
Chuckk
Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
Lets exaggerate here. I can plug a billion amps in and it will only
draw what it wants, but if I go a volt
huh? I appologize if this was in-jest and I didn't recognize it.
You apply a potential when you connect something (a voltage). You don't
apply a current.
Neither voltage nor current kill most things. There are a few kinds of
things that are voltage sensitive but not typically found on the in
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From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 11:30 AM
Subject: [WISPA] To Break the Law or Not to Break the Law...That is
theQuestion
> I think we seem to have a little bit of twisting of thoughts and words
> that needs to get put
Without a lot more info, looks
reasonable.
marlon
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From:
Ross Cornett
To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade
Organization
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 7:32
AM
Subject: [WISPA] Farmers Wanting full
Farm Coverage
Hey guys,
I
Wonder if that's real. If the price is right they'd make some amazingly
strong towers!
marlon
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From: "Bob Moldashel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 10:44 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Hey Marlon
I solved your tree proble
BTW, I finally figured out what's causing that one link to go nuts.
Amazing what a guy can find when he knows how to actually use a spectrum
analyzer!
Just another bad antenna on my end. Nothing too serious. I'd have NEVER
found that without the proper test tools. No more $120 sector anten
I dispensed with the generator.
I use lead-acid batteries, a charger which is automatic in that it peaks the
lead acid cells now and then, and run everything off an inverter.
Not the cleanest, but the power is great, you've got days of backup time,
and it recharges itself in a day or two.
Nor
Ross - about a year ago I put a 12dBi Omni on the top of my bronco with a 1watt Teletronics AMP behind it.. I was able to achieve FULL coverage for about 1.5miles around the tower through trees, houses, buildings, anything.
I would try it with a 12dBi Omni on his grain elevator w
YES !
On Sat, 2006-02-04 at 15:53 -0500, Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
Lets exaggerate here. I can plug a billion amps in and it will only
draw what it wants, but if I go a volt or two over it fries.
Chuckk wrote:
> Over voltage will kill the radio or board current is only drawn as
> needed.
Well, what's worth a Generator without a Automatic Transfer Switch ?
We use this one on some POPS... its great
http://cableorganizer.com/generators/generac-generators-centurion.htm
Gino A. Villarini,
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.aeronetpr.com
787.273.4143
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Hey Mark,
Chuck Moses here,
I had a few question for you when u have a minute.. I just moved up to
Oregon and want to convert power off the gridcan you help with the
design?
818 406 6868
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Behalf Of Mark Koske
No problem. I just finished (5 minutes ago) a proposal for someone else for
exactly the same thing...
What can I do for ya?
North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061
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Fast Internet, NO WIR
Time for some ohm law here guys. The radio you are powering is a load in
series with a transmission line that has resistance. The ohms of the
line and the ohms of the load add together to determine the effective
load for determining the amount of current flow that will be drawn. If
you already
Let's just get clear right up front... It appears you believe that if we
all appear to be good boy scouts and have feel-good politics, we're more
likely to get what we want considered. I disagree. I dont' think it'll
get us even 3 seconds reconsideration. But I do believe if we make
forc
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