for
the purpose of visual formatting. [Priority 2]
(summarised from http://www.w3.org/TR/WAI-WEBCONTENT/#gl-table-markup )
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Hi,
You could possibly use how your college's own Website is coded to support
your case.
I don't know which college you're at, but look at how their Website is
coded - I would be surprised if their still using the methods your tutor
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applicable laws,
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On Mon, October 8, 2007 2:09 am, John Horner wrote:
Let's say there's a big store called, er, Tegrat.
They have complaints about
Careful...
You vill also go on ze list!
On Thu, October 4, 2007 7:28 am, Joe Ortenzi wrote:
yes for an old site I no longer need. but been too busy fixing sites
that people actually need and use.
fair nuff. you gonna sue me?
On Oct 3 2007, at 23:33, Chris Wilson wrote:
If you are going
Alas, it's the American way:
Human rights and the constitution are vitally important (US only)- except
when I'm turning a quick buck.
On Thu, October 4, 2007 9:44 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quoting Or Golan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
First things first. I am a complete and total grammar snob; I
and if you don't like it,
lump it.
BIG difference, n'est-ce-pas?
SO putz me on zee leest, comrade!
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On Thu, October 4, 2007 7:28 am, Joe Ortenzi wrote:
yes for an old site I no longer need. but been
Which takes us back to the beginning (you should now get plausible
costings of non-adherence):
On Wed, October 3, 2007 4:52 pm, Andrew Maben wrote:
Judge allows class action against Target Web site:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071003/wr_nm/target_blind_dc_4
This might advance the cause of
See also,
http://www.jimthatcher.com/sidebyside.htm
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On Wed, October 3, 2007 6:16 pm, Dave Woods wrote:
Hi,
Are these what you're after?
http
On Wed, October 3, 2007 11:18 pm, Chris Wilson wrote:
I think my point is being missed entirely. I completely support standards
and accesability...
This is patently untrue. You have no concept of accessibility and the
standards and why they exist.
Should target improve their site?
Yes.
http://26bits.com/
An accessible site shouldn't make everyone think they've gone blind.
On Wed, October 3, 2007 11:56 pm, Chris Wilson wrote:
bigeasyweb.co.uk ?
There is no reason why an accessible site should cause blindness.
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See also
http://www.webaim.org/techniques/keyboard/tabindex.php
On Sun, September 23, 2007 4:34 am, Christian Montoya wrote:
On 9/22/07, Tee G. Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I still don't think my question get answered. I want to know, without
using the tabindex, can one still claim to
Hi,
I'd put something like:
If you have difficulty using a mouse, you can easily move among the links
and form items in a logical order using the tab key. As you tab from one
to the next, the current item is highlighted to help show which has
focus.
I think mention of logical tab order or
Yes, but it's nowhere near completion or indeed absolute that it will go
ahead anyway.
So, there's no point in lowering your standards until you have to.
On Fri, September 14, 2007 10:14 am, David Dorward wrote:
Well ... HTML 5 is being developed so XHTML is likely not the future,
converting
On Thu, September 13, 2007 7:51 pm, Nancy Johnson wrote:
Hi,
I just listened to a few of the video on Steve Faulkners
http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/AccessibilityTesting
This was linked from Max Design's Some links for light reading
http://www.maxdesign.com.au/2007/09/11/some-links-141/
On Mon, September 10, 2007 1:44 am, Nick Gleitzman wrote:
Hassan Schroeder wrote:
Absolutely. But this whole thread started with the issue of whether alt
text should be optional in HTML5.
Well, that's simple enough.
The only reason the alt-text is being proposed to be optional is because
On Mon, September 10, 2007 2:24 am, Hassan Schroeder wrote:
Nick Gleitzman wrote:
A photocopy may be a poor, 2-dimensional representation of the real
thing, but a blank piece of paper isn't anything at all... Which is more
useful?
Depends on whether you're just curious what a sandwich
Hi,
There are no situations where use of the alt tag is useless - the null tag
means that the name of the image file is not read out.
What may be useless is inappropriate positioning and the wording of the
alt tag.
Here's aa example of coding where appropriate positioning with meaningful
alt
On Sun, September 9, 2007 2:56 pm, Vlad Alexander wrote:
On your home page:
http://www.rhh.myzen.co.uk/gam/index.php
You've made your company logo, an information image, into a decorative
image:
img src=opening/graphics/gaminternet.gif alt=/
Actually logos are essentially visual
On Sun, September 9, 2007 4:33 pm, Michael Yeaney wrote:
I find it interesting that everyone responding to this thread has failed
to
mention one very important aspect of any design-for-accessibility debate:
Until you actually test it with a target audience/persona (i.e., someone
who
On Fri, September 7, 2007 11:50 am, Rahul Gonsalves wrote:
Try the Chelsea Creek Studio:
http://chelseacreekstudio.com/
The text size may be OK but the lack of contast in the page header
definitely fails accessibilty standards.
Stuart
On Thu, September 6, 2007 2:13 pm, Timothy Swan wrote:
On Sep 5, 2007, at 10:09 PM, Dean Edridge wrote:
By giving users: body{font-size:100%;} you are doing the best you
can at your end, and It's up to them to ensure they have correctly
configured their browser to suit their eyesight or
If changing the font size for the select tag (to alter the size of the
select box to what you want) doesn't work for you, I'm a little unclear
about what you are trying to acheive here.
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it is not validating X(HTML) - just CSS.
If your CSS is in a separate external stylesheet it can check that once
for the entire site.
If you have embeded CSS, you have to validate the X(HTML) for each page
before validating the CSS.
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On Sat, August 25, 2007 11:49 pm, Pierre-Henri Lavigne wrote:
Good day,
Does someone know a solution or a tip to set a height for the select
If it's name was Sheraton Center that's how it should be spelt.
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On Wed, August 22, 2007 6:07 pm, David Hucklesby wrote:
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Rather than multiple dds per dt, perhaps:
dl
dtMain Office/dt
dd
ul
li123 Fake Street/li
liSomewhere, SomeCountry, SomeZip/li
/ul
/dd
/dl
may be more semantically sorrect.
On Sat, August 11, 2007 8:52 am, Diego La Monica wrote:
Ryan Moore:
Looking for best practice markup for addresses.
The best on-screen text-size/font-type for readability by human beings has
been much researched ever since computer screens were invented - it's
nothing to do with the application (e.g. browser).
Computer screens may have steadily improved (and so has the research) but
human evolution doesn't
Since every Website is a gui (that's why the Web came about), it's not
clear what you mean by a gui for a Website.
If you want to interface the Website with something else, you will have to
be more specific about what it is (though it's probably OT).
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Hi,
a:active is a pseudoclass, not a class, and the declaration should read:
ul#navTopSimpleUL li a:active
not a.active class name.
Browsers are tolerant of mistakes and try to correct wrong coding in a
meaningful way. However, different browsers may apply different
corrections to the error
Because the title attribute is part of Standards, screenreaders have been
designed with a knowledge it, it's what they expect and it's what they
use.
So, no there is no better way.
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Hi,
I'd hardly call the correct use of line-height a trick.
Stuart
On Thu, August 2, 2007 2:11 am, E Michael Brandt wrote:
You're very welcome. There are a bewildering array of tricks with CSS.
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divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting
divaFAQ :
Hi,
This is the Web Standards Group.
Web Standards say only use tables for tabular data - not presentation.
I'm not sure what your tabular data is here?
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Stuart Foulstone wrote:
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, 2007, at 5:43 PM, Marvin Hunkin wrote:
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check out my website at the bottom of this message.
cheers Marvin.
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Leaving aside that the user wouldn't need to click the back button 20
times to return to your site, as you suggest.
Presuming you do not link to your competitors, I would think you provide
external links to things which are not present on your site.
If users are looking for something not on your
Yes, but that's still graphic design of the appearance of Websites, NOT
Website Design.
It's not designing the dynamic structure, usability and accessibility
(using Web standards) essential for good Website design which will hold
across different platforms/browsers in which the user has control
.
This is graphic design.
On Thu, July 12, 2007 10:25 am, Breton Slivka wrote:
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Surely you don't mean that ;-)
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My thinking was that my real aim is to make the data useful so just
making it valid or logical may not be my prime concern.
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This should mean you don't need to so concerned about the content doesn't
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P.S. If an address IS a list then perhaps it should be an ordered list
(Since, usually, the order is semantically important).
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labels as two distinct methods (one not using the for).
(http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/interact/forms.html#h-17.9.1 )
Interesting...
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The for attribute should NOT be used when the label tag encloses the
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language (which they then valdate).
As well as validating the code, they should also ensure that their markup
do not alter the well-formedness of the underlying document.
Stuart
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Hi,
sorry, I was thinking of a well formed document in general, rather than
specifically to a (X)HTML/XML markup document.
I seem be at cross purposes.
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wouldn't say they are purely accessibility oriented in nature.
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The labels are there for accessibility reasons, if you don't want to
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Accverify
to design to Web standards rather the standard of other Websites.
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If the algorithm (semantics) don't make sense the it's visual presentation
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Nobody mentioned nesting flowcharts (whatever that means: a flowchart is a
flowchart).
Stuart
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will be able to substitute the appropriate control
codes.
I was thinking more in terms of Web standards, rather than the standards
of other Websites (Danone - 260 coding errors errors on home page; Armani
- Flash!)
Stuart
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on to the accessibility layer I would appreciate it
if you guys could check it out for any errors or wrong practices
Thanks,
bob
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