[WSG] Test

2007-12-05 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi, The duplicate posts are coming from a "Globe IT" server in the Netherlands. I have blocked the IP address 217.148.170.240 So we'll see if this message comes back... Please don't reply to this post. Peter Firminger

[WSG] Netscape 9

2007-06-06 Thread Peter Firminger
In case you hadn't heard: http://www.avinio.blogspot.com/2007/06/netscape-navigator-90-released-first. html http://browser.netscape.com/ P *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://

RE: [WSG] what cms system [CLOSED AGAIN]

2006-01-26 Thread Peter Firminger
Please keep CMS discussion to the CMS list. Log into the WSG website and adjust your mail list preferences please.   This thread was closed a week ago.   Peter From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of AlexorbitSent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 8:02 PMTo: w

RE: [WSG] .htm include file into another .htm

2006-01-18 Thread Peter Firminger
This thread is really off topic so let's leave it here, but to correct something (sorry Lachlan)... This works on IIS as well, as long as it's a .shtml or .shtm file to tell IIS to parse it for any required processing (like an include) before serving it (unless your host doesn't allow them). IC

RE: Re; Re: [WSG] the correct use.

2006-01-13 Thread Peter Firminger
The much maligned element is essential in our work. Sometimes we're not just doing poetry and addresses. Take for example the archive page of this very message (the one I'm replying to). http://webstandardsgroup.org/manage/archive.cfm?uid=C69ACE78-BB9A-910B-E6CC1A4A59BDF099 How else would I ac

[WSG] Vacation messages

2005-12-22 Thread Peter Firminger
roup.org/manage/login_edit.cfm and select "No mail from the WSG list" and "No mail from the CMS list". Regards, Peter Firminger *** http://webboy.net/ [EMAIL PRO

[WSG] The closed XML editor thread (Newcomers and Web Standards)

2005-12-04 Thread Peter Firminger
utton to participate. Regards, Peter Firminger *** http://webboy.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] +612 49983388 +614 12932269 *** ** The discu

RE: [WSG] To the admins

2005-11-19 Thread Peter Firminger
Absolutely, way off and it started over 2 weeks ago. Stop now! P > IMHO yours and therefor mine > too, messages are > OFF TOPIC right now. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidel

[WSG] List server commands

2005-11-05 Thread Peter Firminger
Folks, Any of you that remember when this list server took commands via email, please forget it ever happened. The only way to edit your setting is to log in and set them on the website. Even if you do manage to get a command to work, the next time the system writes the subscription file from th

RE: [WSG] javascripts and standards [CLOSED]

2005-10-17 Thread Peter Firminger
Can we stop this discussion. The more we post the links to the list discussing it the more they end up in mail-archive.com. No it isn't an O'Reilly website. We all get it :) It's like a "send this to everyone you know" virus warning email, becomes the problem itself. P

RE: [WSG] css for ie4/ie5

2005-10-13 Thread Peter Firminger
But they may make your system vulnerable as they are not patched. There's a very good reason Microsoft doesn't publish these for developers or anyone else. Not at all recommended on any machine you care about. P > Standalone versions of IE 4 and IE 5 are available at > http://browsers.evolt.org/

RE: [WSG] IE team says no to hacks

2005-10-12 Thread Peter Firminger
If you've gone against all sane advice and used CSS hacks then you knew exactly what you were in for with future browsers and potential problems. I don't want to see an M$ bitch session develop here while Microsoft are seemingly trying very hard do the right thing (at last). Obviously we have to w

RE: [WSG] Avoiding the evil

2005-10-09 Thread Peter Firminger
This thread is a clear case of why non-standards developers laugh at us (Web Standards Zealots) and justifiably say we're irrelevant. We're arguing over a line break! Forget the context (but a postal or street address is a fine example of the need for a line break in the way most (en) people write

RE: ADMIN Re: [WSG] WE05 - who's going?

2005-09-27 Thread Peter Firminger
Big Thanks also to Thomas Marban from Austria who went to the trouble to set up a WE05 Wiki. http://futurefarm.net/we05/ Sorry, it only happened in the last 24 hours or so and we've been kinda busy here setting everything up. P > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[

RE: [WSG] RE: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org

2005-09-23 Thread Peter Firminger
Read below! Please DO NOT send these to the list. You were smart enough to subscribe, take some responsibility and unsubscribe yourself. We're kinda busy here right now. Peter > To revert to a standard subscription, please log into the website - > http://webstandardsgroup.org/manage/ - and selec

RE: [WSG] Need recomendations for CMS system [CLOSED]

2005-08-16 Thread Peter Firminger
There is a CMS list for this discussion. Please log into the WSG site and add it to your lists in your login details. Peter ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for so

[WSG] Announcing: Happy Clog!

2005-08-12 Thread Peter Firminger
For our members in the Netherlands (though I'm sure most of you are aware already)... http://kurafire.net/log/archive/2005/08/07/happy-clog Regards, Peter Firminger *** http://webboy.net/ info@webboy.net +612 49983388 +614 129

RE: [WSG] Spacing Issue

2005-08-11 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi Paul, > "Keep in mind that not many people here will want to help you > sort out a > design that uses tables for layout." > > Are we not being a bit classist? I don't think so. This is from the guidelines: --- We encourage people to ask for help on the list. One of the primary goals of this g

RE: [WSG] Spacing Issue

2005-08-11 Thread Peter Firminger
Hmmm, back to the basics of this list. Please read the section on "Asking for help on the list" http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Validate your code. http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.olpguitars.com/olp_basses/occ/o cc_chopperbass.asp Fix those 125 errors and then ask a

[WSG] Sydney WSG Meeting - Now Tuesday 30 August

2005-08-10 Thread Peter Firminger
chance to win a free ticket to WE05! RSVP is essential - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards, Peter Firminger ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting

RE: [WSG] IE question - user style sheets

2005-08-04 Thread Peter Firminger
You have a usability/accessibility issue with the onChange event on the style switcher. Take it out and add a button to submit it. Try NOT using your mouse and tab through to that form instead, then try and arrow down and you'll see the issue. Even something like http://esrab.webboy.net/toolkit.cf

[WSG] If you've been getting repeats...

2005-07-27 Thread Peter Firminger
I think it's sorted. A user has been taken off the list and asked to fix the issue. There may be a few still to come though, depending on where they are in the ether at the moment P ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/

RE: [WSG] What not to do for colour blind users

2005-07-24 Thread Peter Firminger
For those that haven't seen it, the OzEmail page that James referred to is http://homesite.service.ozemail.com.au/sidenav.html/help/systemstatus To me the colour difference of the three ticks isn't distinguishable. I see a tick and think, "the service is fine". Bad use of both colour and iconograp

RE: [WSG] Visual Studio/.net general question

2005-07-23 Thread Peter Firminger
Are we done now?   Let me just say (as I wrote the offending line on the Max Design/Webboy sites) that I referred to ASP and not ASP.NET as not being a rapid development language (and I am right, it isn't... I used to do ASP sites).   I really don't care what languages other people use, they

RE: SPAM: RE: [WSG] Longhorn & Avalon - seismic shift for web standards?

2005-07-14 Thread Peter Firminger
Now cut that out (smile or no smile)! I use Windows machines exclusively and prefer to browse using IE as that's what my main audience uses. I pick up many things that Russ on his non Win/IE combination misses (not that he doesn't check but they are not his defaults and things do slip through). I

RE: [WSG] help or web standards group?

2005-07-11 Thread Peter Firminger
I totally concur with Lea (which happens with amazing regularity). We have discussed this matter in the past (along with creating online fora to move some of the newbie stuff off the list) but the general consensus was that this was and still is the best way to do it to cover all levels. If you'd

RE: [WSG] Image Thumnail Advice [THREAD CLOSED]

2005-07-02 Thread Peter Firminger
Ok, enough on that thanks.   This is a 'PhotoShop how to' rather than a Web Standards discussion.   Peter

Re: [WSG] Will HTML be nicer to PHP than XHTML? [ADMIN]

2005-06-27 Thread Peter Firminger
We're pushing the OT limits with this thread. I understand it's importance to some people but PHP is NOT a standard and we don't want to go too much further into it here. Many list members don't use PHP and this is just noise to them. I'm not closing the thread but please limit your posts on this

RE: [WSG] Survey of Accessible Websites in New Zealand and Australia

2005-06-27 Thread Peter Firminger
Please please send these to the address mentioned ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) and not to the list. Bruce stated that he will post the report to the list when completed so we don't need to see your responses. Peter ** The discussion list for http://

RE: SPAM: RE: [WSG] Site check with a problem and something new

2005-06-14 Thread Peter Firminger
Hmmm... > I don't have a certain answer, but I have a questions; Why are you > trying to get your website to work on IE on a Mac?? (OS9)?? You know > that IE on a mac has been ditched in the new OSX (Tiger). And > Safari is > the dominent Browser. You should have a message appear on > your site fo

RE: [WSG] WSG Meetings for "the rest of us"

2005-06-10 Thread Peter Firminger
Sorry folks been busy so this has gone unanswered so far by the listkeepers. First of all, we just hit 2000 members! That is a moving target though and it may take a week to stabilise over that figure. Also, Let me take the time to thank our Core group of members, the people that run the meetings

[WSG] Sydney and Melbourne WSG meetings tonight

2005-06-08 Thread Peter Firminger
I only have 8 RSVPs for Sydney so far? Please let us know (if you haven't already) if you are coming on [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] asap (like NOW!) http://webstandardsgroup.org/meetings/ for details. Regards, Peter Firm

RE: [WSG] A test from the blocked address

2005-06-07 Thread Peter Firminger
Ok then... Sorry, but if you were filtering on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then you'll need to change it. Let's see if this solves the virus issue (at least for a while). Again, sorry for the rubbish. Peter ** The discussion list for http://webstanda

[WSG] A test from the blocked address

2005-06-07 Thread Peter Firminger
Hopefully, this won't be seen... Regards, Peter Firminger *** http://webboy.net/ info@webboy.net +612 49983388 +614 129

[WSG] A test

2005-06-07 Thread Peter Firminger
lters people use. Fingers crossed! Regards, Peter Firminger *** http://webboy.net/ info@webboy.net +612 49983388 +614 129

[WSG] RE: Possible Virus

2005-06-07 Thread Peter Firminger
Yeah thanks, we know. No need to repost it or send it to us. I'm trying to find a solution that won't screw up a lot of member's filters. Please just delete these if they continue. A word of advice. NEVER open any attachment from this list. We don't allow attachments (it's in the guidelines) so an

RE: [WSG] problem with utf-8 page encoding

2005-06-05 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi Vaska,   You really need to give us the URL of the page that this occurs on so others can test it.   We also need to know os/ver and browser/ver it occurs on to emulate it.   Opening it as a local file is not a good test (unless the page is destined for a CD-ROM or Kiosk). These things ca

RE: [WSG] Regarding foreign languages

2005-06-02 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi Vaska, > Am I allowed to ask about non-CSS things here? WSG is not just a CSS list. Your question is entirely appropriate as it is dealing with firm Web Standards. > In particular, I'm trying to deal with how to handle inputs > of Chinese > characters via some forms. What I'm wondering is...

RE: [WSG] Looking for a standards-compliant classified advert solution [MOVE TO CMS LIST]

2005-05-31 Thread Peter Firminger
This is really a topic for the CMS list. Please carry on the conversation there. Regards, Peter > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Nicol > Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 10:09 PM > To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org > Subject: [WSG] Look

RE: [WSG] CMS list archive?

2005-05-24 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi tee, As you've found both lists are bundled together in the local archive, but the CMS list is separate in mail-archive.com (which Russ Weakley redesigned for them a while back btw): http://www.mail-archive.com/cms%40webstandardsgroup.org/ Or (a little easier to remember) http://www.mail-arc

RE: [WSG] mambo and web standards [MOVED TO CMS]

2005-05-17 Thread Peter Firminger
Absolutely correct Lawrence. I (as a CMS developer) understand very well the need for standards compliant systems and a place to discuss the issues. That is why encourage anyone that is interested (and sadly, many developers are not) to join and use the WSG-CMS list. Just log in to http://webstand

RE: [WSG] Online payments [CLOSED]

2005-05-13 Thread Peter Firminger
Yeah WAY OT, Please respond to Erwin off list. This list only covers web standards, if the brief was bigger than that it would explode and become unusable. There are no web standards involved in server-side technologies and tasks like card processing. We have a CMS list to discuss the output of

RE: [WSG] Privacy Statements - THREAD CLOSED

2005-05-09 Thread Peter Firminger
Goodbye! P > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 10:23 AM > To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org; russ - maxdesign > Cc: Web Standards Group > Subject: Re: [WSG] Privacy Statements - THREAD CLOSED

RE: [WSG] Any good color spies?

2005-05-05 Thread Peter Firminger
You guys really should be adding all these to the WSG resources area (if they are not already there). That way people can check there first before asking on list. This is exactly what the resources section of the website was designed for. Log into the site and select "Add resource link" from the

Re: [WSG] Juicy Studio offline [CLOSED]

2005-05-03 Thread Peter Firminger
Way OT now folks. Please send suggestions to Gez at the email address mentioned on the page (as Douglas correctly asked you to do). P > >>> Visit his site for more information about the situation and how to > >>> contact him with suggestions. > >>> > >>> http://juicystudio.com/ > >>> > >>> Thank

[WSG] Sydney WSG meeting tonight

2005-04-27 Thread Peter Firminger
11am or we may all be fighting over the last bottle of beer. http://webstandardsgroup.org/go/event34.cfm Regards, Peter Firminger *** http://webboy.net/ info@webboy.net +612 4998338

RE: [WSG] Mystical belief in the power of Web Standards, Usability, and tableless CSS

2005-04-20 Thread Peter Firminger
Further more (this rubbish by or about people justifying their inability to do a job right really annoys me). A person developing a website is expected to produce a product that serves HTML or XHTML and through that some other files (images, stylesheets etc.) to a browser. Lets just go with the HT

RE: [WSG] Mystical belief in the power of Web Standards, Usability, and tableless CSS

2005-04-20 Thread Peter Firminger
There is nothing wrong with any of the above except they're being touted by...guess who?...people who offer web design services specializing in...guess what?...Web Standards, Usability, and tableless CSS. These are simply tools. Remember, nobody gets excited about the tools used to build a house (

RE: [WSG] Adobe Buys Macromedia [CLOSED and Moved to Blog]

2005-04-18 Thread Peter Firminger
> > Oh, and sorry...this is fairly off topic. Apologies... > > Patrick > Yes I was thinking the same. Very interesting news with on-topic repercussions down the track but not really a valid discussion point here and now. However, I have set up a page in the WSG Blog for this discussion... http:/

[WSG] Housekeeping [ADMIN]

2005-04-14 Thread Peter Firminger
I can't tell you how on every mail client but as far as I know you can get the posters direct address from the "From" address. In Outlook it is shown as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Peter Firminger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and by double clicking "Peter Firminger" yo

[WSG] The mail problem

2005-04-10 Thread Peter Firminger
concerned was also a victim of this. I guess these things happen from time to time. In case of a similar problem in the future I'll alert a few other people on how to suspend the list without shutting down the whole mail server. Regards,

[WSG] Test from Peter Firminger

2005-04-10 Thread Peter Firminger
The list has been put back online. Please wait 20 minutes before commencing traffic again so I can check the bounces etc. I'll elaborate when I have contacted the idiot concerned but his domain has evaporated. Probably pulled offline by his ISP in Brisbane. Regards, Peter Firm

RE: [WSG] Page views per month, peak rates in an hour [CLOSED]

2005-03-28 Thread Peter Firminger
Way off topic... Please reply to Siggy off list. Listdad > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sigurd Magnusson > Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 8:38 AM > To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org > Subject: SPAM: [WSG] Page views per month, peak rates

[WSG] CMS List

2005-03-14 Thread Peter Firminger
You are using them old command method to subscribe and this has been disabled. Log into the WSG site and change your email prefs to include the CMS list. P > I know this might be slightly off toic, but the CMS listserv > on WSG won't allow > me to subscribe: > > "Sorry, the mailing list cms@webst

RE: [WSG] 2 questions: antispam code & Doc type...

2005-03-07 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi Devendra, > Character Encoding mismatch! > The character encoding specified in the HTTP header (utf-8) > is different from the value in the element > (iso-8859-1). I will use the value from the HTTP header > (utf-8) for this validation. ColdFusionMX serves a character encoding in the http hea

[WSG] [ADMIN] Site review requests and new Brisbane organiser

2005-02-22 Thread Peter Firminger
here I'd like to welcome Avril Bowie to the WSG Core team. Avril will be sharing the WSG Brisbane duties with Lea de Groot. Regards, Peter Firminger *** http://webboy.net

RE: [WSG] FW: Site review

2005-02-21 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi James, As the page http://www.organicexpo.com.au/exhibitors/index.php validates as XHTML 1.0 Strict, this may not mean anything but I have had errors or warnings from validators about white space in html comments in the past. wasn't acceptable as there needed to be a space either inside the d

RE: [WSG] Tentative validation

2005-02-09 Thread Peter Firminger
You have a mixed doctype, the declaration says strict but the uri points to the transitional dtd. P > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul > Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 11:28 PM > To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org > Subject: RE: [WS

RE: [WSG] Re: XHTML Strict alternative to

2005-02-08 Thread Peter Firminger
Can I just offer an opinion here. When thinking of semantics it sometimes helps to go back 20 years and use pen and paper. If you were writing a big list (numbering each item) in a small notepad you would, on successive pages, keep the numbering going. So on the second page, the first item may be

RE: [WSG] CSS / JavaScript Problem

2005-01-29 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi Jacobus, You'll need to resend this to the list as it was blocked and only sent to me because you had a read receipt request on it. Regards, Peter > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jacobus van Niekerk > Sent: Saturday, January 29,

RE: [WSG] Is sending abusive spam doing standards good or harm?

2005-01-06 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi all, > If you have any specific concerns please forward them to > info@webboy.net or > [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll just mention that you can't write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] as it's a closed list and you'll be rejected posting to it unless you are subscribed. Sorry Mark :( I am working on another form

[WSG] ADMIN: Changes to WSG login system

2005-01-03 Thread Peter Firminger
ess. We are now looking at redesigning the WSG site. This will change the look, make the structure more semantically correct, change the way the resources section is presented and add a new "Jobs" section for advertising (standards related) positions vacant. Please do not respond to the WSG

[WSG Announce] ADMIN: Changes to WSG login system

2005-01-03 Thread Peter Firminger
ection for advertising (standards related) positions vacant. Please do not respond to the WSG list. Please email [EMAIL PROTECTED] to discuss anything in this email. Regards, Peter Firminger The announce list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/

RE: [WSG] PHP script [ADMIN] THREAD CLOSED

2004-12-03 Thread Peter Firminger
Yeah thanks Warren, but we'll look after the traffic control please. Your post just adds to the noise. Please reply to Angus off list about his PHP issues. PHP is not a "web standard" and is not for discussion here. The guidelines do point this out. P > Pretty off topic. > > WP *

RE: [WSG] My site is broken in Opera

2004-12-02 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi Alan, I strongly suggest putting the binary stuff into a background image. Google etc. will hate what you have there as will screen readers. Interesting effect but not a good idea unless maybe you put it at the end of the code order. Personally, I'd lose it and use an image as a css background.

[WSG] [ADMIN] Listdad rave (please don't reply on list)

2004-12-02 Thread Peter Firminger
Hey list, A number of things to cover. Please read on. New Zealand: I am stunned by the RSVPs for the upcoming meeting in Wellington. By my reckoning, over 50 people will attend next Thursday evening and it's their first meeting. You Kiwis! Always a surprise up your sleeves. Mike B

RE: [WSG] Defining A Definition List

2004-11-29 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi, > Is a list with one item really a list? Yes absolutely. If there is one person in a room and you are asked to list the names of the people in the room then the list will have one name. P ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgro

RE: [WSG] W3C REFERER FIX?

2004-11-29 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi, > yeah it works on my slave machine running sp1, but I tend not > to have that > connected, as it will just get eaten by the web (yours is > still alive?). it The web never ate my machine pre SP2. Maybe I am more careful about where I browse. > looks like it is a sp2 IE thing stripping the h

[WSG] PHP is OT

2004-11-28 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi folks, No more PHP discussions please. It's no more a web standard than ColdFusion etc. There are other places for those discussions. If it does happen to come up, please answer off list. Regards, Listdad ** The discussion list for http

RE: [WSG] Defining A Definition List

2004-11-28 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi, > Your second example is not valid; element cannot be > contained in Quite correct but it can be within the . > in such way. the first one is ok, but why don't you consider > such scenario: > > News > > News Name & Date > News content here... > > > or something similar

RE: [WSG] Help With a weird link style

2004-11-21 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi Genau Jr, The first step when asking for help is always to get the page code valid first. See http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://novo.meucarronovo.com.br/ Most of your problems seem to stem from unescaped ampersands (&) in links (I haven't looked too far down as there are 153 errors).

RE: [WSG] Unsubscribing

2004-11-21 Thread Peter Firminger
These messages really should be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] rather than the list. Not to stop people publicly complaining but to keep the non-standards traffic down for everyone else. No to the forum, this has been discussed before. Yes to the "no-mail" membership but not until I have time over xma

RE: [WSG] Font size... [ADMIN - CLOSED AGAIN]

2004-11-20 Thread Peter Firminger
Felix. A thread closed by a core member is not to be opened again. Period! The topic has been exhausted. If you have fresh information on the topic after a thread has been closed, send it directly to the person and not to the list. Peter **

RE: Re[2]: [WSG] Font size and arrogance

2004-11-19 Thread Peter Firminger
Be nice Iain! Final warning. Peter > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Iain Harrison > Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 7:53 PM > To: Lothar B. Baier > Subject: Re[2]: [WSG] Font size and arrogance > > Hello Lothar, > > Thursday, Novembe

RE: Re[3]: [WSG] Question to the others ...

2004-11-14 Thread Peter Firminger
> This is relevant in several respects: > > Firstly, we have to realise that there are some brain-dead mail > filtering systems out there, and have to be careful about the words > we use or quote in emails. I don't agree, I can be blue to people I know in person but profanity (including that mild

RE: HMMMM! RE: [WSG] Lakshmi Satyanarayana/ESS/NSW_AG is out of the office.

2004-11-11 Thread Peter Firminger
Obviously, you don't need to reply to these on list. We see them too and deal with them. P > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sam Hutchinson > Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 4:17 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: H! RE: [WSG]

RE: [WSG] Firefox 1.0

2004-11-09 Thread Peter Firminger
Thanks for the update Brendan. We agree that this needed to be announced on the list and now it has (in a very concise package). Now before this gets out of hand the core team anticipated that there may be a lot of discussion on FireFox when it was released. Please remember that talking about spe

RE: [WSG] Site check...

2004-11-07 Thread Peter Firminger
Some of this stuff is done best directly to the author, not the list... Use your good judgement when replying please. If it's just a "Looks good" or an unrelated question then the 1170+ others really don't need the traffic. If it's a standards related issue or question that may help others learn so

RE: [WSG] QuickTime and XHTML validation

2004-11-05 Thread Peter Firminger
The problem with that is that (on my machine and at the time 64k ISDN connection) it took about 3 minutes for the content to display, I assume because it was loading the QT first. The source code was all there while waiting to render. > Try this: > http://realdev1.realise.com/rossa/rendertest/quic

RE: [WSG] links with same names

2004-11-03 Thread Peter Firminger
Predictable is a good thing. Expectations met! Usability has a lot to do with predictability. The 'kiss' principle is always a good place to start. > The whole Find out more about ... at the bottom of each page looks too > predictable. You can adjust the words to suit the site e.g.: Find out mor

[ADMIN] RE: [WSG] OT: We need some international help! Urgently!

2004-10-29 Thread Peter Firminger
A perfect example of what not to send to this list. Throwing in the line "and of cause a lot of webstandard skills" (sic) does not put it on-topic. I suggest all new members read the guidelines (see the link in the footer). Traffic (and signal-to-noise ratio) is an issue on this list (especially

RE: [WSG] Help with fieldset in a li

2004-10-28 Thread Peter Firminger
Yes, my use of the word legend should have read label. D'oh! P > > However in relation to legend, a whole bunch of labels and > inputs can be > presented within one legend. > > Roger > > > I notice that some people nest the input within the legend > whereas I don't:

RE: [WSG] Help with fieldset in a li

2004-10-28 Thread Peter Firminger
I notice that some people nest the input within the legend whereas I don't: Example: Name: or mine: Name: Does it make any difference? The ID ties them together anyway so I think not. P > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Web Usa

RE: [WSG] dublin core and search engines

2004-10-26 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi, There are certainly uses of DC elements but they are generally within other schemas. The Australian Government Locator Service (AGLS) http://www.naa.gov.au/recordkeeping/gov_online/agls/summary.html metadata scheme is one that uses DC elements, Education Network Australia (EdNA) http://www.edn

RE: RE: [WSG] how so I stop all the postings coming to my email box?

2004-10-19 Thread Peter Firminger
Means I screwed up! Still tweaking it... Thanks for this. P > WSG's feed page (http://webstandardsgroup.org/rss.cfm) gives > me this error when > I viewed it (FF 1.0PR, Win XP): > > + + + + + + + + + + + CODE + + + + + + + + + + > XML Parsing Error: not well-formed > Location: http://webstandard

RE: [WSG] how so I stop all the postings coming to my email box?

2004-10-18 Thread Peter Firminger
not getting an answer within an hour is really not surprising from a group (not club) with no membership fees. Also, we are in an entirely different time zone to you in Arizona (though our server is actually in Phoenix), all the core group are in eastern Australia.   Welcome to the group

RE: [WSG] web photo album [ADMIN]

2004-10-14 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi folks, This isn't on topic at all. We don't talk about specific web applications on this list, just the concepts surrounding the output of any system. Please continue this discussion on the CMS list as that is far more appropriate (the content being the images in this case). See the resources s

RE: [WSG] CSS Validation query

2004-10-13 Thread Peter Firminger
Just a heads up, always look for No errors or warnings. You can get the congrats but still have warnings if you scroll down. Jackie's concern was a warning even though it was valid css. P > Congratulations! > > Valid CSS!This document validates as CSS! > > Is what I get when I validate the CSS d

RE: [WSG] CSS Validation query

2004-10-13 Thread Peter Firminger
Interesting, You may have flummoxed it with the double color reference background-color : #05695c; color : #000; font-family : Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size : 80%; color : #02486c; Try removing the black one (color : #000;) and see if it fixes it. P > -Original M

RE: [WSG] Is XHTML harmful?

2004-10-06 Thread Peter Firminger
Hmmm... > but it was also pointed out > > > Note that a strict interpretation of the WAI WCAG 1.0 guidelines would > indicate that you MUST use XHTML 1.0 if you intent to comply > with WAI AA > guidelines. See Um, no. Not MUST at all. This is misinterp

RE: [WSG] IE topnav problems

2004-10-04 Thread Peter Firminger
Um, local machines won't work out here! P > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted Drake > Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 2:37 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [WSG] IE topnav problems > > I am stumped on this issue. > > Our top nav

RE: [WSG] Web standards planet

2004-09-12 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi Jad, I'm afraid I don't really see the point. All these blogs tend to interlink anyway so there's really nothing new here and there are many sites that do this kind of linking (e.g. http://dezwozhere.com/links.html among heaps of others). A site with no content isn't really of any value to anyo

RE: [WSG] Change defaults in IE with CSS style sheet

2004-09-09 Thread Peter Firminger
> Thanks for this! Exactly what I was looking for. This has now got me > thinking whether it would be possible to test a website with a print > "media" css to see what it looks like with print css.. I'm > assuming it should.. You can rename your stylesheets (swap them) so that you use the print on

RE: [WSG] Content Management tools for non-tech authors [Continue on CMS list please]

2004-09-09 Thread Peter Firminger
Guys, there are sections in resources on the WSG site that cover this. Try: http://webstandardsgroup.org/go/resourcecat30.cfm Development and design tools and http://webstandardsgroup.org/go/resourcecat25.cfm Standards based applications There is also a separate mail list for CMS issues. Please s

RE: [WSG] Change defaults in IE with CSS style sheet

2004-09-08 Thread Peter Firminger
Go to Tools | Internet Options and at the bottom of the General tab click the "Accessibility" button and add your stylesheet there. P > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ralph > Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 11:59 AM > To: [EMAIL PR

[WSG] Sorry for the huge email folks

2004-08-11 Thread Peter Firminger
Obviously that was meant to be sent to Kay directly. Regards, Peter Firminger *** http://webboy.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1300 666 770 +612 4998 3388 Proudly presenting: Web Essentials 04 Web standards :: accessibility :: inspiration

[WSG] [ADMIN] A plea for plain text to the list

2004-08-05 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi folks, In the last couple of days I have been getting many bounces from the list by mail servers blocking posts as spam because they are in HTML or Outlook Rich Text format. Can I again ask that you try to remember to set your emails to plain text rather than HTML when posting to the list. If

RE: [WSG] Ikon

2004-07-30 Thread Peter Firminger
You go to bed for a few hours and look what happens! Ikon has left the building! P * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting hel

RE: [WSG] CMS [ADMIN] Moved to CMS List

2004-07-29 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi, There is a specific WSG list for CMS matters. Please join and use that list for this discussion. http://webstandardsgroup.org/go/resource131.cfm for details. P > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geoff Deering > Sent: Friday, July

RE: [WSG] Why do (some) web developers user Firefox? [ADMIN] Wind it up please

2004-07-29 Thread Peter Firminger
I think we're done on this pretty well OT subject now thanks. P * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **

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