[WSG] title question

2004-05-19 Thread Ted Drake
I just came across something new for me. I just started working with this company and they are using jsp with Tomcat and Jaquar as the server environment. the pages are being built with Forte as the editor of choice. I tried, in all my accessibility lovingness to add title tags to some

RE: [WSG]

2004-05-25 Thread Ted Drake
This is an old article. The sydney games lawsuit was the shot that rang around the world. As far as I know, he won the suit and governments around the world have begun requiring compliance wtih disabilities acts. In the United States, it is section 508 of the Americans with Disabilities

[WSG] I'm stumped on a couple margins, could you send some ideas?

2004-05-27 Thread Ted Drake
appreciate any help. My standardcss guru, Brian Rountree(http://www.superiorpixels.com) , is away from his computer and I haven't been able to get his help so far today. Thanks Ted Drake CSA TP

[WSG] accessible and stylish forms

2004-05-27 Thread Ted Drake
I saw a web site that described how to create fully accessible forms and make them look purty. Does anyone know where that would be? I am having a heck of a time finding information on creating stylish and completely standards based forms. The sad thing is, I did this already for a

RE: [WSG] Standards compliant content management system.

2004-06-01 Thread Ted Drake
I tested contribute and in general found it clumsy. I've been looking into movable type and mambo as cms systems. With contribute, I have to admit I didn't give it enough time. But we were constantly trying to get the passwords to work and the constant prompting about checking in and out was

RE: [WSG] accessibility feedback

2004-06-02 Thread Ted Drake
Great comments Mordechai It's easy to miss some of these elements, such as title tags. I like using the web development bar by Chris Pederick http://www.chrispederick.com/work/firefox/webdeveloper/in Mozilla. I use the outline links without titles, images without alt, titles, etc

[WSG] definition lists

2004-06-22 Thread Ted Drake
I feel stupid. I put together this huge collections project that was built on the back of the mighty definition list. Now, a mere 3 months later, I can't even get a simple dl list to line up the dt and dd elements without throwing everything out of whack. I remember there was a great tutorial

RE: [WSG] OT - Standards Compliant Websites Directory

2004-06-23 Thread Ted Drake
Great idea, I'd love to submit a few sites and at the same time would be more likely to support those sites that make the effort to be compliant. Could you also give the option of listing a star or some other symbol for sites that are accessible? Ted www.superiorpixels.com -Original

RE: [WSG] Problem with floated divs in gallery site

2004-06-24 Thread Ted Drake
Here is a solution my friend Brian came up with for a gallery page for my class. I need to add the toggle.js script to make the gallery work, and it isn't perfect, but gets the job done. Of course, that creatures image of yours is a real problem. http://www.sdco-op.com/palomar/gallery.html.

[WSG] A question about names

2004-06-28 Thread Ted Drake
I need some clarification if possible before I get too involved in re-building some forms. As far as I know, the name attribute for creating anchor tags is being depricated. Is that the same for our forms? If I am using an input or selector, should I only use an id attribute or should I

RE: [WSG] As Good As the Weakest Link

2004-06-28 Thread Ted Drake
ol gives your links the number 1, 2, 3, etc. On this line, how do I change it to A, B, C, a, b, c, etc. Ted -Original Message- From: ckimedia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 4:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] As Good As the Weakest Link Hi, When

[WSG] xforms

2004-06-30 Thread Ted Drake
Does anyone know where I can find some information on browser support for xforms and how to style them with css? I know the w3c has some information but my head starts spinning whenever I go to their pages. I found this site, but it doesn't mention support and styling.

RE: [WSG] PDA Viewer

2004-07-02 Thread Ted Drake
Microsoft has a pocket pc emulater on their site. I can't tell you where it is, it wasn't easy to find the first time. I believe it is a part of their pocket pc programmer kit. Ted -Original Message- From: Charles Roper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 3:08 AM

RE: [WSG] xforms

2004-07-02 Thread Ted Drake
From what I've learned, In the future, xforms will be supported natively in the browser. However, we don't have that support now, so we can get a middleware that will transform the xform into something viewable. Mozquito transforms it into a flash-like file. CHENG transforms an xform into a

[WSG] struts and tiles

2004-07-02 Thread Ted Drake
Hi Everyone I'm in the process of building a new standards-based, css-layout site to replace our current site, which is not too purty, www.csatravelprotection.com. Here's my question. We are using JSP struts and are looking at using struts-tiles. Does anyone on the list use this technology?

[WSG] ADA Section 508 irony

2004-07-02 Thread Ted Drake
Has anyone ever looked under the covers of the ADA Section 508 page? http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/508/508home.html It's really bad. It passes 508 but not priority 2 or 3. The page is coded without link title tags and is filled with center and font tags. I just thought I'd pass it on. Ted

RE: [WSG] Hiding email address from spambots with CSS

2004-07-06 Thread Ted Drake
I use the following javascript. It works well for me. script language=JavaScript!-- var name = insert username; var domain = insert domain name; document.write('a href=\mailto:' + name + '@' + domain + '\'); document.write(name + '@'

[WSG] font size question

2004-07-07 Thread Ted Drake
I've been looking at some sites to see how they determine their font size. em, keyword, px, ... So, I looked at the following sites and noticed a new tag (for me) in the body Zeldman font: small/1.4 Eric Meyers body {font: 0.84em/1.3 Mezzoblue font: 12px/19px How is the split font size

RE: [WSG] Does anybody know an expandable vertical css/js menu based on uls?

2004-07-08 Thread Ted Drake
Are you looking for a dropdown from the top? (the submenus are vertical), check out son of suckerfish http://www.htmldog.com/articles/suckerfish/dropdowns/ or are you looking for a flyout menu from the leftnav? My mind is blank right now on flyouts. Ted -Original Message- From:

[WSG] the disappearing tabs

2004-07-08 Thread Ted Drake
Hello I could use some help finding the solution to this mystery. I'm working on a complete overhaul of our web site with css and yes the company has completely bought into the idea (cheering finally subsides) However, it's design by committee and I'm continually making new prototypes. With the

RE: [WSG] Styling of Web Forms

2004-07-08 Thread Ted Drake
There is a good web page that discusses the radical re-styling of form objects: http://www.picment.com/articles/css/funwithforms/ From a pc standpoint, this form looks inviting but funky. From a Mac perspective, it looks pretty normal. I do find it a bit offsetting and don't think I'd use it on

RE: [WSG] the disappearing tabs

2004-07-08 Thread Ted Drake
PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WSG] the disappearing tabs At a guess I recon they're disappearing under the sub nav. If you make the text size smaller in Firefox, one of them pops up. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted Drake Sent

[WSG] standards badges

2004-07-13 Thread Ted Drake
there is a good posting at the following web site about posting our badges of honor for valid web sites: http://www.stuffandnonsense.co.uk/archives/wearing_badges_is_not_enough.html I like his suggestion to send people to an internal page that describes the accessibility attributes of the site.

[WSG] text field size tag

2004-07-13 Thread Ted Drake
In the 5th edition of O'Reilly's HTML and XHTML the definitive guide, they suggest listing a size and max length for the text input field. I would like to define the width with css and leave out the size attribute on my input fields. I'm trying to remove as much styling from our forms as

[WSG] summary of text field size tag

2004-07-14 Thread Ted Drake
Hey everyone, Thanks for all of the great information. I didn't expect so many thoughtful responses. Becuase our site wants to be as accessible and usable, I will go ahead and add the size attributes to the input tags for browsers that cannot access the style sheets. --- Justin French

[WSG] title, can it be used on a label

2004-07-14 Thread Ted Drake
Hi Everyone I hate to keep flooding this arena with questions, but I can't find the answer to this one and it might be helpful to others. We have a form and we used to use a popup window to offer more information about a field. For instance, when answering the question Initial Deposit Date, if

RE: [WSG] A California meeting? was Brisbane July Meeting - Report

2004-07-19 Thread Ted Drake
If there were a california meeting, my vote goes for L.A. Sacramento, is well, Sacramento. Not exactly my idea of a place to visit and spend an extra day. San Francisco is great, but expensive. L.A. is more central, has plenty of room, and can be affordable. Of course, if my job covered the

RE: [WSG] semantic way to mark up form help?

2004-07-22 Thread Ted Drake
Hi Justin I asked about this a couple weeks ago. You can put a title on the label. label for=arrivaldate title=Enter the day you plan on arriving to our lovely hotelArrival datelabel When the person puts their cursor over the label, they will get a box that pops up with your label. It's valid

RE: [WSG] semantic way to mark up form help?

2004-07-22 Thread Ted Drake
Damn, Just when I thought I had a cool solution for adding titles to the labels Steven comes along and shoots a hole the size of Africa and Taiwan in my plan. I need some coffee... Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004

[WSG] access keys and tab index

2004-07-27 Thread Ted Drake
I just had an appointment reminder pop-up on my outlook. Today is the day that I'm supposed to put together a list of access keys to use on our web site and the tab index on our forms. For those of you that have put together a chart of access keys for your sitewide navigation, do you have any

RE: [WSG] access keys and tab index

2004-07-29 Thread Ted Drake
for their use. Thank you for your thoughtful information. Ted Drake CSA Travel Protection www.csatravelprotection (the current site is horribly non-standard, hopefully the new one will launch soon) -Original Message- From: Geoff Deering [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004

[WSG] more title discussions

2004-07-29 Thread Ted Drake
There is an interesting discussion about title tags on astirisk today. http://www.7nights.com/asterisk/ Dave S. had the following comment _ Dave S. said: It goes like this: Alt text: Fruit still life Title text: Pears, apples, and bananas in a dish, lit from the

RE: [WSG] The appearance of Frames without Frames, only CSS

2004-07-30 Thread Ted Drake
Hi Shane It looks to me like a simple, clean page that loads fast because the graphics are cached. Now that you've worked with some css, you should consider creating an alternate version of your silverlake site without the flash. The download times for your site are painful, 43.33 seconds

[WSG] Ikon, where are you?

2004-07-30 Thread Ted Drake
Is there anything we can do to keep the ikon messages contained for the next 2 weeks? He may be on a holiday, but he'll wish he wasn't when he gets back after two weeks of these responses. If nothing else, I think we should spread some gossip like he uses the blink tag or something like that.

RE: [WSG] Spacing Between Paragraphs

2004-08-04 Thread Ted Drake
How about looking at it in a different light. Use a data list. dl dtContacts/dt ddContact Name/dd ddspanimg src="".../span /dl Use your style sheet to move the dd with span to the left, the dt and other dd's to the right and you can add more contact names by simply adding more dd's. It's

[WSG] The F-word (frames that is)

2004-08-04 Thread Ted Drake
I'm putting together our new web site css-layout. There are a few web sites that put our site into their frameset. If they take my lovely css-formatted page and stick it in their ugly, poorly styled web page built with nasty frames... Could their stylesheet over-ride my style sheet or will

[WSG] off topic, but needed. are there any struts users?

2004-08-19 Thread Ted Drake
Hi everyone. I just wanted to know if there are any struts users that could answer a question for me off the list. We are having a problem with pages that have more than one form on them. The valditing javascripts are conflicting. If there are any struts users that might have an idea how to

RE: [WSG] Centered layout with header+2col+footer

2004-08-20 Thread Ted Drake
That's a nice site. I like the combination of bevels and drop shadows. They are subtle enough to give dimension without being overwhelming. As a photographer, I tend to notice and get bugged by sites that have multiple light sources, i.e. shadows coming from top, left, right, ... I noticed

RE: [WSG] Unaccessible - NY Attorney General busts two big name sites

2004-08-23 Thread Ted Drake
How many times have the kiwi's had to see this line. (New Zealand does'nt count) tsk tsk. by the way, I like the new golden kiwis, much tastier than the green ones. keep up the good work. Ted (from San Diego, those in Los Angeles treat us like Australians treat the kiwis. We just don't have

[WSG] the new chevrolet site

2004-08-25 Thread Ted Drake
Hi everyone. I don't know if you've noticed the new www.chevrolet.com web site. It is now css-based. Congrats to the people that put it together. It must have been a lot of work getting everyone co-ordinated for the re-launch. The programmers are using loads of datalists. I use them a lot

RE: [WSG] Sitepoint Web Business Kit

2004-09-02 Thread Ted Drake
could you send a link to sitepoint? Ted -Original Message- From: Wasabi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 8:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] Sitepoint Web Business Kit Hi, Could someone critique the Sitepoint Web Business Kit. Is it worth the

[WSG] the new Kansas City Chiefs web site

2004-09-17 Thread Ted Drake
If you haven't gotten your daily dose of Zeldman, he's announcing the re-design of the Kansas City Chiefs web site. It includes all of the great css/standards based design we expect from Happy Cogs. However, I have to point out the option of choosing styles. In the right nav, there are three

[WSG] Wrap I say Wrap! Down Boy! good IE dog, here's a biscuit

2004-09-17 Thread Ted Drake
Hi Everyone. This started out as a letter asking for help and I ended up solving it in the process of writing it. This has happened several times this week and rather than adding it to the dust bin, I thought I'd share the process. Sometimes just writing out your problem helps you define

[WSG] question about iframe accessibility

2004-09-20 Thread Ted Drake
We are using a popup calendar for forms on our site and it uses an iframe for the calendar. I'm getting this message from the developers toolbar 508 checker Rule: 1.1.6 - All IFRAME elements are required to contain element content. * Failure - IFRAME Element at Line: 362, Column: 1 I'm not

RE: [WSG] question about iframe accessibility

2004-09-20 Thread Ted Drake
. What do you think? Ted -Original Message- From: Ted Drake Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 5:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] question about iframe accessibility We are using a popup calendar for forms on our site and it uses an iframe for the calendar. I'm getting

RE: [WSG] Is it possible...

2004-09-21 Thread Ted Drake
Hi Kim I read Big John's comment and groaned myself. It's an easy task once you've done it, but getting your mind around the concept isn't that easy. I remember reading about it ages ago and thinking uh, yeah. But... I just implemented it on our site. Here's the simplified version. You

[WSG] I've got my viking helmet on and warming up for the aria

2004-09-23 Thread Ted Drake
Hi Everyone Opera is definately not in my scope of expertise. I've fixed the vast majority of my css bugs and now I need to fix a couple Opera problems. Here are some screen shots from browsercam. I hope you can view them. http://www.browsercam.com/projects/99910/1643010.jpg

[WSG] Opera formatting problems

2004-09-24 Thread Ted Drake
Hi Everyone Opera is definately not in my scope of expertise. I've fixed the vast majority of my css bugs and now I need to fix a couple Opera problems. Here are some screen shots from browsercam. I hope you can view them. http://www.browsercam.com/projects/99910/1643010.jpg

[WSG] netscape gasp/ 4.7 emulator

2004-09-24 Thread Ted Drake
Does anyone know an online resource that emulates netscape 4.7? I need to do some css shuffling to make my main.css look ok in nn4. I have a browsercam subscription for this month but would like to see more than a screenshot. I'm sure others would appreciate the information as well. Ted

RE: [WSG] netscape gasp/ 4.7 emulator

2004-09-24 Thread Ted Drake
, September 24, 2004 9:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] netscape gasp/ 4.7 emulator On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 08:47:12 -0700, Ted Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know an online resource that emulates netscape 4.7? Why not just install it on your dev machine? It's not that bad

RE: [WSG] Opera formatting problems

2004-09-24 Thread Ted Drake
- From: Big John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 11:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Opera formatting problems Ted Drake wrote: There is an image in the div#topright that is floated left that is sitting below the menu toprightnav I am using the IE

[WSG] Note to Big John

2004-10-12 Thread Ted Drake
Sorry for the off-topic post, I wanted to ask Big John a question but couldn't find his email address. If you get this, could you respond off list? Ted Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd like to ask you about some consulting work. ** The discussion

[WSG] an interesting find in ie5

2004-10-12 Thread Ted Drake
Hi All I found something today that has probably been documented many times but was new to me. I have a maincontent div and inside it may be an image that is floated left. I wanted the paragraphs to float around it without having to put the image inside the paragraph tag. This worked fine in

[WSG] AOHell

2004-09-28 Thread Ted Drake
In a developers meeting today I was asked about AOL, should we test with it... What do you do? What considerations are there for AOl? Ted ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04

[WSG] standards based calendar function

2004-09-28 Thread Ted Drake
Hi everyone We have been trying to get a calendar popup function for our web site to work. I know there are a lot of them out there but I'd like to know if you have a favorite. I'm talking about clicking into a form field for a date, having a calendar appear, click on the calendar's date, and

RE: [WSG] best way to format Skip Nav link

2004-09-29 Thread Ted Drake
hi on a side note, I was in an accessibility seminar and they suggested using the term skip to main content because it sounds the best when vocalized by a screen reader. Ted -Original Message- From: Brian Duchek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 2:11 PM To:

RE: [WSG] Web Site Structure Suggestions, Second Post!

2004-09-29 Thread Ted Drake
I like to use the H1 for image replacement and change the h1 tag for search engine optimized words that are still appropriate for those with the style sheet turned off. So, I agree with the first setup. Ted -Original Message- From: Jackie Reid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

[WSG] print style sheet question

2004-09-29 Thread Ted Drake
Is there a way to make a check box and radio button print with an empty box instead of a filled, black box? Here's a page with an example: http://v4.csatravelprotection.com/csa/packinglist.do I tried adding this to the print style sheet checkbox {background-color:#fff !important;} but it didn't

RE: [WSG] Images without float

2004-09-30 Thread Ted Drake
The dl tag to the rescue. put the image and caption in dd tags, the text in the dt. float the dt to the left or the dd's to the right or some other variation. An example can be seen here: http://v4.csatravelprotection.com/csa/asalescontact.do Each of the account reps sits in their own dl

RE: [WSG] Navbar to foot of page?

2004-10-01 Thread Ted Drake
I used a variation of the faux column. I added the background to the wrap div and put the footer outside the div. Then I was able to create a background image for the header that caps off the column. check out http://v4.csatravelprotection.com for an example. Ted -Original Message-

[WSG] IE topnav problems

2004-10-01 Thread Ted Drake
I am stumped on this issue. Our top nav has a simple tab setup. It looks proper in firefox, there should be a thin white line separating the top nav from the subnav. In IE, there appears to be 2px of bottom padding or margin on the top nav and it is hiding the white line. I've tried all sorts

[WSG] IE topnav problems

2004-10-04 Thread Ted Drake
I am stumped on this issue. Our top nav has a simple tab setup. It looks proper in firefox, there should be a thin white line separating the top nav from the subnav. In IE, there appears to be 2px of bottom padding or margin on the top nav and it is hiding the white line. I've tried all sorts

RE: [WSG] IE topnav problems

2004-10-04 Thread Ted Drake
AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WSG] IE topnav problems Um, local machines won't work out here! P -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted Drake Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 2:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] IE topnav

[WSG] javascript validation question

2004-10-04 Thread Ted Drake
I'm having trouble getting a page to validate as xhtml 1.0 transitional. http://v4.csavg40.com/csa/preparequote.do It doesn't like this series of javascript stuff input type=text name=departdate size=25 tabindex=5 value=mm/dd/ onkeydown=if(event.keyCode==9self.gfPop)gfPop.fHideCal();

RE: [WSG] javascript validation question

2004-10-04 Thread Ted Drake
] Subject: Re: [WSG] javascript validation question It's an XHTML issue...here the validation report from BBEdit: Value of attribute onkeydown for element input is invalid; Value needs entity encoding (if(event.keyCode==9amp;amp;self.gfPop)gfPop.fHideCal();). On 5/10/04 10:12 AM, Ted Drake

[WSG] RE: Left and right: inline content...

2004-10-05 Thread Ted Drake
Try putting them in a dl This isn't semantic, but could work. dtABN 72797798055 /dt dda href=http://validator.w3c.org/check/referer;XHTML/a/dd dda href=http://validator.w3c.org/check/referer;XHTML/a/dd dda href=http://validator.w3c.org/check/referer;XHTML/a/dd dda

[WSG] RE: Left and right: inline content...

2004-10-05 Thread Ted Drake
Try using a dl. It wouldn't be semantic, the objects are not that related, but it would offer you the style flexibility dl dtABN 72797798055/dt dda href=http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/check/referer;CSS/a/dd dda href=/accessibility/Accessibility/a/dd /dl dl {width:100%;} dt {display:inline;

[WSG] IE5 Mac factors

2004-10-05 Thread Ted Drake
I was recently prodded by a list member, Nick G, that I had more to worry about than some margins in my top nav. My layouts were all messed up in IE5 mac. Thanks Nick, I don't know why I was not paying attention to this. So, here's my question, and I'm sure it would be helpful to others. I

RE: [WSG] IE5 Mac factors

2004-10-05 Thread Ted Drake
Hi Everyone I found an answer shortly after sending this message. http://www.macedition.com/cb/ie5macbugs/#floatwrap lists a series of ie5bugs. I'm going through the list and checking it twice, hopefully I'll find the styles that are naughty and nice. Ted -Original Message- From: Ted

[WSG] braille style sheet

2004-10-06 Thread Ted Drake
Has anyone on the list ever made a braille style sheet? What is involved? Are there any templates to suggest a standard braille sheet? What about Aural style sheets? I'm referring to the w3c media descriptors: http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/types.html#h-6.13 braille Intended for braille

[WSG] the height of an unordered list in ie

2004-10-07 Thread Ted Drake
I've been having some trouble with our topnav. It's a simple unordered list with nested unordered lists to represent the subnav. The top nav is horizontal and in the tab-like format. The subnav sits below it. In firefox and most browsers, there is a 1 pixel line below the topnav and above

[WSG] dublin core and search engines

2004-10-25 Thread Ted Drake
I hope this isn't off topic. But I figured the Dublin Core was standards based and so I'm throwing it out there. Our company hired an SEO company to help get better search results. They gave the standard answers with page names, titles, descriptions, as well as the wink/nod use these alt tags,

RE: [WSG] dublin core and search engines

2004-10-26 Thread Ted Drake
: Monday, October 25, 2004 6:59 PM To: Ted Drake; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] dublin core and search engines Hello: Actually there is an academic study of the use of DC metatags on web pages and the ranks of those pages in search engine results. I am searching for the citation and will send

[WSG] that darn IE

2004-10-27 Thread Ted Drake
Here's a question that I haven't seen mentioned very often. probably because form elements normally make the strong-willed folks quiver and those of us that are a bit weaker throw up our arms and scream for our mommies. So, here it is. We have select boxes that show the entire word on firefox,

[WSG] alt tag boundaries

2004-11-03 Thread Ted Drake
the boundaries of the alt attribute? I think it is short and does describe the image with more interesting copy than the original. What do you think? Ted Drake www.csatravelprotection.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org

[WSG] The coolest developer tool since Chris's firefox developer toolbar

2004-11-08 Thread Ted Drake
free and the guy deserves a big pat on the back. Ted Drake www.csatravelprotection.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting

[WSG] IE review

2004-11-10 Thread Ted Drake
if you see anything strange? Screenshots off list would be great. Thanks Ted Drake www.csatravelprotection.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints

[WSG] legend formatting issues

2004-11-16 Thread Ted Drake
Our new site uses fieldsets on all of our forms and I've always had a bit of a struggle with the lengths of legends. I've tried adding a width to the legend but the browsers seem to ignore the width declaration. I'm especially having problems with IE gasp/ which is forcing the div with the

[WSG] RE: legend formatting issues

2004-11-16 Thread Ted Drake
to the floated div. My mind isn't grasping the conflict right now. Perhaps I should begin apologizing to the floats and inputs, lord knows they've been on the receiving end of some four-letter words. Ted -Original Message- From: Ted Drake Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 2:46 PM To: '[EMAIL

[WSG] label problems in Netscape 7, input problems in Safari 1.2

2004-11-17 Thread Ted Drake
are shifting to the left where the labels should be. In Safari, the inputs for ages get progressively smaller instead of staying the same size. The inputs on other fields are also smaller than I would like. Does anyone have any advice for these two strange behaviors? Thanks Ted Drake

[WSG] RE: [css-d] label problems in Netscape 7, input problems in Safari 1.2

2004-11-17 Thread Ted Drake
I just downloaded and installed netscape 7.2 and everything looks fine. It probably was just a 7.0 thing. Ted Drake wrote: *** I noticed some problems with Netscape 7 and Safari 1.2 and I wanted to know if anyone had any ideas. Here is the browsercam public page to look at the screen shots

[WSG] This is really strange stuff, even for IE

2004-11-19 Thread Ted Drake
. The extra sit date is not in the code. Are there any Poirot's out there that can ferret out the offending code? Thanks Ted Drake www.csatravelprotection.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http

[WSG] simple javascript question

2004-11-19 Thread Ted Drake
Is this valid language=JavaScript type=text/javascript or should I just have type only. I'm afraid of breaking any functions that might require the language. Ted ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

RE: [WSG] This is really strange stuff, even for IE

2004-11-19 Thread Ted Drake
causes IE to break if you try resizing text with View | Text Size. Cheers Peter Ted Drake wrote: I'm stuck on a strange behavior with IE. For some reason, on only a few of our pages, the title of one of our form inputs will wrap and parts of the title will repeat. Yeah, it's not the greatest

[WSG] Solved-sort of-- This is really strange stuff, even for IE

2004-11-19 Thread Ted Drake
will probably upload the fixed pages before I leave tonight. Ted -Original Message- From: Patrick H. Lauke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 2:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] This is really strange stuff, even for IE Ted Drake wrote: Hi guys I

RE: [WSG] image captions?

2004-11-22 Thread Ted Drake
enter the ever popular definition list dl class=image dtimg.../dt ddcaption/dd /dl This gives you lots of flexibility and keeps it semantic. Ted -Original Message- From: designer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 12:55 PM To: webstandards group Subject: [WSG]

[WSG] turkish text - can you assign a language or encoding to a div?

2004-11-22 Thread Ted Drake
If you are doing a web site and you only have sporadic use of turkish characters, can't you wrap that text in a div and assign it a language? I haven't done this before so I'm asking not suggesting. But I thought that I have seen that as a semantic way to show that there will be languages other

RE: [WSG] Site critique please

2004-11-22 Thread Ted Drake
Once again, the everpopular dl list to the rescue div id=right dl dtJANUARY/dt dd class=nomeetingNo meeting this month. First meeting for the year will be Tuesday 15 February./dd dd Our speaker will be member and well-known local amateur botanist strongPeg Foreman/strong/dd /div This would be

[WSG] Fieldsets can be used outside the box - Correct use of fieldset

2004-11-23 Thread Ted Drake
I think a fieldset could be used outside a form if you are using it to group similar links. We can fixate on the name or look at the purpose. It says, the fields inside it are related. If the standards say it can be outside a form than we can use it to group similar objects. I have used it to

RE: [WSG] Fieldsets can be used outside the box - Correct use of fieldset

2004-11-23 Thread Ted Drake
week. Thanks Ted -Original Message- From: Derek Featherstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WSG] Fieldsets can be used outside the box - Correct use of fieldset On Tuesday, November 23, 2004 11:22 AM, Ted Drake wrote

RE: [WSG] Sometimes you just cant help people ...

2004-11-24 Thread Ted Drake
In one of the accessibility forums that I attended, it was suggested we use skip to main content instead of content. Some screen readers will read content with the inflection that it will bring you happiness and a sense of content rather than give you content. I do like your idea of

[WSG] contacting list members

2004-11-29 Thread Ted Drake
I hope this isn't too off topic. I looked at the main web site to see if there was a way to contact members. I was interested in getting some information from people in different countries about the standards environment where they live. I found that there were four people on the list from

[WSG] section tag

2004-11-29 Thread Ted Drake
What is the section tag? How would it be used? Ted You said: In summary, It seems to me that dldtdd is unnecessary and a poor substitute for XHTML 2.0's section tag. In the meantime I'd probably use div class=section and nest it deeply. Anyway, that's my thought process. .Matthew

RE: [WSG] Site Check Please

2004-11-30 Thread Ted Drake
I don't like the disconnect between the word pairs flowers plants and wedding events. If they share the same drop down, they should look like they share the same button. In ff1.0 the topnav sits about 10 pixels too far left, outside the main section. Are there hover effects on the

[WSG] new msn search engine

2004-12-01 Thread Ted Drake
I noticed today the MSN search page has launched their new beta version. It is standards based! It's almost xhtml1.0 strict valid! Is this a sign of good things fromMicrosoft? http://search.msn.com I'm looking at the results page, I didn't check the splash page. Ted

RE: [WSG] new msn search engine

2004-12-01 Thread Ted Drake
You got me! I swear I looked at it this morning with the w3 validator and it only had a few errors. I must have been validating the wrong tab. It's really strange, when you look at the validation results and compare it to the source code it seems to be looking at two different pages.

[WSG] designing for the cell phone and PDA

2004-12-02 Thread Ted Drake
Is there anyone out there that has had some success building a style sheet to make their web site look good on a pocket pc or cell phone? I'd like to add this feature to our site but I haven't had much luck. Are there any successes or failures out there? Thanks Ted Drake Web Content Editor

[WSG] a quick target question

2004-12-06 Thread Ted Drake
Could someone give me the appropriate replacement for target=_blank. I can't remember the correct javascript statement that opens it in a new window. I'm sure others could use it as well. Thank you Ted Drake Web Content Editor CSA Travel Protection http://www.csatravelprotection.com

RE: [WSG] a quick target question

2004-12-06 Thread Ted Drake
I'm a bit confused by the (this.href) code. Should I replace that with the page in the href= section or is it looking back at the href and use that url? I understand the repetition for keypress/onclick are for those without a mouse and those with a mouse. n'est-ce pas? Ted -Original

RE: [WSG] a (NOT SO) quick target question

2004-12-06 Thread Ted Drake
that understand it and to be ready for the next step to strict. Now, back to the discussion at large. Ted Drake CSA Travel Protection http://www.csatravelprotection.com -Original Message- From: Mordechai Peller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 3:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED

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