Re: [WSG] HTML5 v. HTML 4.x

One word : semantics. It all has to do with what the tags mean to the computer. For example, you can write to specify that the markup in that div is code and should be displayed as such. However, to the browser, the means nothing more than . They're both just divs. Now, if you use the new code e

Re: [WSG] Site for Vision Impaired

It also depends what type of visual impairments. For example, there are like 6 types of color blindness allow, all which distort the colors in varying ways. If you're just talking about low vision, then you want to have larger fonts then normal. I'd say probably bump up the body font size one notch

Re: [WSG] Google 'X-ray' banner

If anything, I think the message once decrypted would be "congrats... you wasted two days of work on this message". =p On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 6:35 PM, tee wrote: > > > > Uday - It's not a JPG its an animated GIF > > Since the list-dad allows the continued off-topic kept running, I thought I > as

Re: [WSG] Google 'X-ray' banner

Oh, sorry, I somehow missed the last sentence. Yeah, it's just an animated gif. You could pretty easily create one using Flash, then export as an animated gif. On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 7:32 AM, Foskett, Mike wrote: > Animated GIF I believe. > > mike foskett > http://websemantics.co.uk/ > > > -

Re: [WSG] Google 'X-ray' banner

It looks like they just took the bone images and over-layed their logo on top in a blue color and made it a bit transparent. It'd just be a matter of playing around with color values and transparencies. - Chris On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 7:13 AM, Grant Bailey < grant_malcolm_bai...@westnet.com.au> wr

Re: [WSG] Image Maps

pec (http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/objects.html#h-13.6) says > "... with a mouse..." > > regards, > Mathew Robertson > > > On 15 October 2010 10:43, Christian Snodgrass wrote: > >> That map also illustrates the problem with image maps. >> >> D

Re: [WSG] Image Maps

As far as I know, image maps are not deprecated... just often abused so you should really consider your options. I agree with your little analogy as well. I'd evaluate exactly what the problem is and then pick a solution. For example, if all the shapes in the potential map are square, it'd be easy

Re: [WSG] Image Maps

t; *Henrik Madsen* > +61 08 9387 1250 > hen...@igenerator.com.au > www.igenerator.com.au > > On 15/10/2010, at 7:19 AM, Christian Snodgrass wrote: > > In the US map problem, an image map may make sense. > > However, there are many more in which an image map doesn't

Re: [WSG] Image Maps

high precision. I'm not saying image maps should never be used... I'm saying that you should keep in mind alternatives because image maps are frequently abused. - Christian On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Hassan Schroeder wrote: > On 10/14/10 1:23 PM, Christian Snodgrass wrote: > &g

Re: [WSG] Image Maps

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Re: [WSG] Image Maps

all into a Fireworks file, position them properly, then use the x and y it gives you to figure out the negative margins for them. On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 3:21 PM, cat soul wrote: > > On Oct 14, 2010, at 12:09 PM, Christian Snodgrass wrote: > > Basically image maps can be used, but

Re: [WSG] Image Maps

Can you use an image map? Yes. Do people still use image maps? Yes. Should you find a better way to implement it? Absolutely. Basically image maps can be used, but they aren't usually a good idea. A better method would be to split it up into separate images and smash them together to look lik

Re: [WSG] semantic structure for icon and text

I would recommend option 2, for two main reasons: 1) An icon is more of a decoration. It does serve a function purpose, but without that icon that original context is still intact. 2) It's cleaner code. =p Just my two cents. However, I can see the argument for putting it directly in an image,

Re: [WSG] the mysteries of overflow: hidden

t; Artyukh, http://cssing.org.ua On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Christian Snodgrass mailto:csnodgrass3...@gmail.com>> wrote: I'm not sure I understand what you're asking. Could you put together a quick example to illustrate. Basically what overflow: hidden does is

Re: [WSG] the mysteries of overflow: hidden

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Re: [WSG] Accessibility does not matter!

owards the times where 'relevant accessibility' is more important than 'accessibility' per se. Please have a read of my article and comment via email or on the blog itself. http://www.flexewebs.com/semantix/accessibility-does-not-matter/ Thank you very much. Regards, Jason

Re: [WSG] table inside a dd?

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Re: [WSG] Box model in IE7

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Re: [WSG] Marking up news

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Re: [WSG] What's the best way to place a link in a document? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

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Re: [WSG] What's the best way to place a link in a document? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

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Re: [WSG] What's the best way to place a link in a document? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

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Re: [WSG] What's the best way to place a link in a document? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

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Re: [WSG] Title attribute

ually displayed when the user mouses over the element). -- Christian Snodgrass CEO - Azure Ronin http://www.arwebdesign.net http://www.htmlblox.com Phone: 859.816.7955 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guideline

Re: HTML reached "end of life"?? (Was: Re: [WSG] Sorry Link)

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Re: [WSG] Which is read first? Scripts or Styles?

elements with Javascript, the CSS is still applied to the new stuff as well. Basically, regardless when loaded the CSS always acts on everything. Javascript needs to be run after any elements it might need to edit though. -- Christian Snodgrass CEO - Azure Ronin http://www.arwebdesign.net http

Re: [WSG] HTML/XHTML/XML - Question about the future of.

Micky Hulse wrote: Christian Montoya wrote: You'll have telepathic computer displays before _real_ XHTML replaces HTML. Ha! Nice one. A while back, I stopped using XHTML strict and switched to HTML 4.01 strict DTD's. Personally, I think HTML 4.01 strict is a good pick. I think some would

Re: [WSG] JavaScript clarification please

David Dorward wrote: Brett Patterson wrote: Why would you avoid w3schools? They do have some good information. So why? They have a lot of bad information - and spotting the difference is hard if you are trying to learn from them. I second that. They actually have a LOT more bad in

Re: [WSG] .NET sites which are XHTML 1.0 strict

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Re: [WSG] Coding for CSS3?

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Re: [WSG] Incorporating Terms and Cons in signup page

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Re: [WSG] Facebook downgrading support for IE6

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Re: [WSG] Facebook downgrading support for IE6

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Re: [WSG] resetting input boxes

c elements, but just about any CSS reset should handle it. This is the one I prefer: http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2007/05/01/reset-reloaded/ Yahoo also has it's own, but it's a lot bigger and I think somewhat of an overkill. -- Christian Snodgrass Azure Ronin Web Design ht

Re: [WSG] Marking up company logo

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Re: [WSG] accessible client side form validation

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Re: [WSG] PNG file sizes

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Re: [WSG] Catch 22 list problem

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Re: [WSG] Why is deprecated?

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Re: [WSG] IE8 news

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Re: [WSG] IE8 news

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Re: [WSG] strong element being more semantical and accessible for required field

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Re: [WSG] repeating background png support ie6

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Re: [WSG] Styling forms

t to wrap if it grows. With the fieldset width set in pixels, when these elements "grow", they simply pile up without breaking anything. If I kill the BRs it is just to make sure they don't create any vertical space. That sounds like quite an elegant solution. I may have to try t

Re: [WSG] Styling forms

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Re: [WSG] repeat x and repeat y

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Re: [WSG] Styling forms

field sets, which are really appropriate for groups of related items. Michael Horowitz wrote: I've been looking at styling forms and I'm seeing some people mark them up as ordered lists and other using paragraphs. What are the arguments for the different markup types. --

Re: [WSG] display differences firefox ie 7.0

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Re: [WSG] PHP includes

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Re: [WSG] long description and its implementation

-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christian Snodgrass Sent: 04 February 2008 03:06 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] long description and its implementation Mostly empirical evidence, though I've read it in many reliable

Re: [WSG] long description and its implementation

Mostly empirical evidence, though I've read it in many reliable sources. Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Christian Snodgrass wrote: (Most screen readers don't have Javascript enabled, so this is a valid method). Just wondering if this is based on stats or empirical evidence? P --

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Re: [WSG] Re: Why code and no web pag

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Re: [WSG] long description and its implementation

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Re: [WSG] Windows on a Mac

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Re: [WSG] Windows on a Mac

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Re: [WSG] This IE8 controversy

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Re: [WSG] This IE8 controversy

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Re: [WSG] Conflict between Mime Type and Document Type

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Re: [WSG] This IE8 controversy

Chris Broadfoot wrote: Christian Snodgrass wrote: The biggest problem is the fact that if they don't have it be the "opt-in" option, that any older sites that used all of the hacks that made it work in IE6 and IE7 won't work in IE8. That probably includes even a lot of yo

Re: [WSG] This IE8 controversy

Chris Knowles wrote: Christian Snodgrass wrote: The biggest problem is the fact that if they don't have it be the "opt-in" option, that any older sites that used all of the hacks that made it work in IE6 and IE7 won't work in IE8. That probably includes even a lot of yo

Re: [WSG] This IE8 controversy

in IE7 then! and create every new website or important/ re-designed websites with the new target IE8 tags! sounds quite simple to me. Maybe not the most perfect but you cannot expect everything to jump over night! Christian Snodgrass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 30/01/2008 9:15:48 am >>

Re: [WSG] This IE8 controversy

ably includes even a lot of your own sites. Beyond that (since they could just make it ignore those types of hacks which wouldn't be difficult), is pages even older, and especially those web-based applications that relied on those hacks. It's the lesser of two evils, b

Re: [WSG] Conflict between Mime Type and Document Type

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Re: [WSG] Usability for downloading documents

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Re: [WSG] A Question of Semantics

Yes I do, it's not finished yet. Joe Ortenzi wrote: Christian. Did you know most of your portfolio goes to a 404? On Jan 24 2008, at 16:06, Christian Snodgrass wrote: Hello, I have a small semantic problem that I can't make up my mind about. Basically, I have a list like this:

Re: [WSG] Background images versus image

could make the javascript trigger on the image onload events. Though, I think some older version of Opera, v8 or 7.54, doesn't support the onLoad event for images. - Original Message - From: "Christian Snodgrass" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, Janu

Re: [WSG] Background images versus image

d something similar to the example that I found? Thanks again for the help. James -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] On Behalf Of Christian

Re: [WSG] Background images versus image

al Message ----- From: "Christian Snodgrass" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 8:31 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Background images versus image I haven't tested on many screen readers, but from what I understand, most have CSS disabled, so it would read this as a re

Re: [WSG] Background images versus image

nd? Thanks again for the help. James -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christian Snodgrass Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 1:03 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Background images versus image That isn't bad, but if you have J

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Re: [WSG] A Question of Semantics

Mordechai Peller wrote: Christian Snodgrass wrote: I have a small semantic problem that I can't make up my mind about. Basically, I have a list like this: "Something: blah blah; blah; blah". The "Something:" is a different font size, and kind of a header for the

[WSG] A Question of Semantics

do a paragraph with "Something" strong or in a span, or if I should do a header and then the text in a paragraph, with some CSS to make it look properly, or if I should make it some kind of definition or other list. What do you think? Thanks. -- Christian Snodgrass Azure Ronin Web

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Re: [WSG] Where did I come from?

7;s a bit different functionality then a standard back button on an internet browser. And I got that idea from the other thread that the thread starter made about an internal application that refuses to let you leave the site. Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Christian Snodgrass wrote: You shouldn

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Re: [WSG] Definition List appropriate for FAQ?

Thanks everyone for the replies. I think I will go with a definition list, which is what I was leaning towards in the first place. Thierry Koblentz wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christian Snodgrass Sent: Thursday, January 17

[WSG] Definition List appropriate for FAQ?

same time you can't really call an FAQ a list of definitions, so I'm not really sure. What are your thoughts on this? Thanks. -- Christian Snodgrass Azure Ronin Web Design http://www.arwebdesign.net/ <http://www.arwebdesign.net>

Re: [WSG] When can I start using E4X

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Re: [WSG] Rockwell?

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Re: [WSG] Do we just throw out the img tag

searches on the issue. No, we shouldn't get rid of the img element. There is a semantic difference between using CSS to put in an image (which is a background) and a normal image, which could be content. -- Christian Snodgrass Azure Ronin Web Design http://www.arwebdesign.net/

Re: [WSG] skip links

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Re: [WSG] Opera files antitrust against MS: standards one part

ch they it only comes with Internet Explorer, as it is that it only comes with Internet Explorer -which isn't standards compliant-. I think if IE was standards-compliant, we wouldn't be seeing this. Just my 2 cents. -- Christian Snodgrass Azure Ronin Web Design http://www.ar

Re: [WSG] Article: "Vocalize Firefox" (text-to-speech extensions for Firefox)

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Re: [WSG] nested fieldset/legend/list/label/input css woes in IE6/7

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Re: [WSG] Markup question

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Re: [WSG] Web Standards Presentation

would be willing to look over the information I have gathered and I am developing and would comment, critique, correct, etc. on everything I have presented. Nice Start - though if I was talking Standards I'd also talk about Semantics -- Christian Snodgrass Azure Ronin Web D

Re: [WSG] Web Standards Presentation

there are not enough resources for it to run. David On 27 Nov 2007, at 19:18, Christian Snodgrass wrote: Hello, I am going to be giving a presentation on Web Standards to all relevant professors at my university to help them catch up and get up-to-date in what they are teaching the st

[WSG] Web Standards Presentation

l as the website, so check them out regularly if you are able to. Once again, thanks for your help, Christian Snodgrass -- Christian Snodgrass Azure Ronin Web Design http://www.arwebdesign.net/ <http://www.arwebdesign.net> Phone: 859.816.7955 **

Re: [WSG] SIte Maps?

rnet.co.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Christian Snodgrass Azure Ronin Web Design http://www.arweb

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