[WSG] Test

2007-12-05 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi, The duplicate posts are coming from a Globe IT server in the Netherlands. I have blocked the IP address 217.148.170.240 So we'll see if this message comes back... Please don't reply to this post. Peter Firminger *** List

[WSG] Netscape 9

2007-06-06 Thread Peter Firminger
In case you hadn't heard: http://www.avinio.blogspot.com/2007/06/netscape-navigator-90-released-first. html http://browser.netscape.com/ P *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe:

RE: [WSG] what cms system [CLOSED AGAIN]

2006-01-26 Thread Peter Firminger
Please keep CMS discussion to the CMS list. Log into the WSG website and adjust your mail list preferences please. This thread was closed a week ago. Peter From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of AlexorbitSent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 8:02 PMTo:

RE: [WSG] .htm include file into another .htm

2006-01-18 Thread Peter Firminger
This thread is really off topic so let's leave it here, but to correct something (sorry Lachlan)... This works on IIS as well, as long as it's a .shtml or .shtm file to tell IIS to parse it for any required processing (like an include) before serving it (unless your host doesn't allow them).

RE: Re; Re: [WSG] br the correct use.

2006-01-13 Thread Peter Firminger
The much maligned br element is essential in our work. Sometimes we're not just doing poetry and addresses. Take for example the archive page of this very message (the one I'm replying to). http://webstandardsgroup.org/manage/archive.cfm?uid=C69ACE78-BB9A-910B-E6CC1A4A59BDF099 How else would I

[WSG] Vacation messages

2005-12-22 Thread Peter Firminger
/login_edit.cfm and select No mail from the WSG list and No mail from the CMS list. Regards, Peter Firminger *** http://webboy.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] +612 49983388 +614 12932269

[WSG] The closed XML editor thread (Newcomers and Web Standards)

2005-12-04 Thread Peter Firminger
, Peter Firminger *** http://webboy.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] +612 49983388 +614 12932269 *** ** The discussion list for http

RE: [WSG] To the admins

2005-11-19 Thread Peter Firminger
Absolutely, way off and it started over 2 weeks ago. Stop now! P IMHO yours and therefor mine too, messages are OFF TOPIC right now. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

[WSG] List server commands

2005-11-05 Thread Peter Firminger
Folks, Any of you that remember when this list server took commands via email, please forget it ever happened. The only way to edit your setting is to log in and set them on the website. Even if you do manage to get a command to work, the next time the system writes the subscription file from

RE: [WSG] javascripts and standards [CLOSED]

2005-10-17 Thread Peter Firminger
Can we stop this discussion. The more we post the links to the list discussing it the more they end up in mail-archive.com. No it isn't an O'Reilly website. We all get it :) It's like a send this to everyone you know virus warning email, becomes the problem itself. P

RE: [WSG] css for ie4/ie5

2005-10-13 Thread Peter Firminger
But they may make your system vulnerable as they are not patched. There's a very good reason Microsoft doesn't publish these for developers or anyone else. Not at all recommended on any machine you care about. P Standalone versions of IE 4 and IE 5 are available at

RE: [WSG] IE team says no to hacks

2005-10-12 Thread Peter Firminger
If you've gone against all sane advice and used CSS hacks then you knew exactly what you were in for with future browsers and potential problems. I don't want to see an M$ bitch session develop here while Microsoft are seemingly trying very hard do the right thing (at last). Obviously we have to

RE: [WSG] Avoiding the evil br

2005-10-09 Thread Peter Firminger
This thread is a clear case of why non-standards developers laugh at us (Web Standards Zealots) and justifiably say we're irrelevant. We're arguing over a line break! Forget the context (but a postal or street address is a fine example of the need for a line break in the way most (en) people

RE: ADMIN Re: [WSG] WE05 - who's going?

2005-09-27 Thread Peter Firminger
Big Thanks also to Thomas Marban from Austria who went to the trouble to set up a WE05 Wiki. http://futurefarm.net/we05/ Sorry, it only happened in the last 24 hours or so and we've been kinda busy here setting everything up. P -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [WSG] Need recomendations for CMS system [CLOSED]

2005-08-16 Thread Peter Firminger
There is a CMS list for this discussion. Please log into the WSG site and add it to your lists in your login details. Peter ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for

[WSG] Announcing: Happy Clog!

2005-08-12 Thread Peter Firminger
For our members in the Netherlands (though I'm sure most of you are aware already)... http://kurafire.net/log/archive/2005/08/07/happy-clog Regards, Peter Firminger *** http://webboy.net/ info@webboy.net +612 49983388 +614 12932269

RE: [WSG] Spacing Issue

2005-08-11 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi Paul, Keep in mind that not many people here will want to help you sort out a design that uses tables for layout. Are we not being a bit classist? I don't think so. This is from the guidelines: --- We encourage people to ask for help on the list. One of the primary goals of this group

[WSG] Sydney WSG Meeting - Now Tuesday 30 August

2005-08-10 Thread Peter Firminger
a chance to win a free ticket to WE05! RSVP is essential - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards, Peter Firminger ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting

RE: [WSG] IE question - user style sheets

2005-08-04 Thread Peter Firminger
You have a usability/accessibility issue with the onChange event on the style switcher. Take it out and add a button to submit it. Try NOT using your mouse and tab through to that form instead, then try and arrow down and you'll see the issue. Even something like

RE: [WSG] What not to do for colour blind users

2005-07-24 Thread Peter Firminger
For those that haven't seen it, the OzEmail page that James referred to is http://homesite.service.ozemail.com.au/sidenav.html/help/systemstatus To me the colour difference of the three ticks isn't distinguishable. I see a tick and think, the service is fine. Bad use of both colour and

RE: [WSG] Visual Studio/.net general question

2005-07-23 Thread Peter Firminger
Are we done now? Let me just say (as I wrote the offending line on the Max Design/Webboy sites) that I referred to ASP and not ASP.NET as not being a rapid development language (and I am right, it isn't... I used todo ASP sites). I really don't care what languages other people use, they

RE: SPAM: RE: [WSG] Longhorn Avalon - seismic shift for web standards?

2005-07-14 Thread Peter Firminger
Now cut that out (smile or no smile)! I use Windows machines exclusively and prefer to browse using IE as that's what my main audience uses. I pick up many things that Russ on his non Win/IE combination misses (not that he doesn't check but they are not his defaults and things do slip through).

RE: [WSG] help or web standards group?

2005-07-11 Thread Peter Firminger
I totally concur with Lea (which happens with amazing regularity). We have discussed this matter in the past (along with creating online fora to move some of the newbie stuff off the list) but the general consensus was that this was and still is the best way to do it to cover all levels. If

RE: [WSG] Image Thumnail Advice [THREAD CLOSED]

2005-07-02 Thread Peter Firminger
Ok, enough on that thanks. This is a 'PhotoShop how to'rather thana Web Standards discussion. Peter

RE: [WSG] Survey of Accessible Websites in New Zealand and Australia

2005-06-27 Thread Peter Firminger
Please please send these to the address mentioned ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) and not to the list. Bruce stated that he will post the report to the list when completed so we don't need to see your responses. Peter ** The discussion list for

Re: [WSG] Will HTML be nicer to PHP than XHTML? [ADMIN]

2005-06-27 Thread Peter Firminger
We're pushing the OT limits with this thread. I understand it's importance to some people but PHP is NOT a standard and we don't want to go too much further into it here. Many list members don't use PHP and this is just noise to them. I'm not closing the thread but please limit your posts on

RE: SPAM: RE: [WSG] Site check with a problem and something new

2005-06-14 Thread Peter Firminger
Hmmm... I don't have a certain answer, but I have a questions; Why are you trying to get your website to work on IE on a Mac?? (OS9)?? You know that IE on a mac has been ditched in the new OSX (Tiger). And Safari is the dominent Browser. You should have a message appear on your site for

RE: [WSG] WSG Meetings for the rest of us

2005-06-10 Thread Peter Firminger
Sorry folks been busy so this has gone unanswered so far by the listkeepers. First of all, we just hit 2000 members! That is a moving target though and it may take a week to stabilise over that figure. Also, Let me take the time to thank our Core group of members, the people that run the

[WSG] RE: Possible Virus

2005-06-07 Thread Peter Firminger
Yeah thanks, we know. No need to repost it or send it to us. I'm trying to find a solution that won't screw up a lot of member's filters. Please just delete these if they continue. A word of advice. NEVER open any attachment from this list. We don't allow attachments (it's in the guidelines) so

[WSG] A test

2005-06-07 Thread Peter Firminger
people use. Fingers crossed! Regards, Peter Firminger *** http://webboy.net/ info@webboy.net +612 49983388 +614 12932269

[WSG] A test from the blocked address

2005-06-07 Thread Peter Firminger
Hopefully, this won't be seen... Regards, Peter Firminger *** http://webboy.net/ info@webboy.net +612 49983388 +614 12932269

RE: [WSG] problem with utf-8 page encoding

2005-06-05 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi Vaska, You really need to give us the URL of the page that this occurs onso others can test it. We also need to know os/ver and browser/ver it occurs on to emulate it. Opening it as a local file is not a good test (unless the page is destined for a CD-ROM or Kiosk). These things can

RE: [WSG] Regarding foreign languages

2005-06-02 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi Vaska, Am I allowed to ask about non-CSS things here? WSG is not just a CSS list. Your question is entirely appropriate as it is dealing with firm Web Standards. In particular, I'm trying to deal with how to handle inputs of Chinese characters via some forms. What I'm wondering is...

RE: [WSG] Looking for a standards-compliant classified advert solution [MOVE TO CMS LIST]

2005-05-31 Thread Peter Firminger
This is really a topic for the CMS list. Please carry on the conversation there. Regards, Peter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Nicol Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 10:09 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Looking

RE: [WSG] CMS list archive?

2005-05-24 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi tee, As you've found both lists are bundled together in the local archive, but the CMS list is separate in mail-archive.com (which Russ Weakley redesigned for them a while back btw): http://www.mail-archive.com/cms%40webstandardsgroup.org/ Or (a little easier to remember)

RE: [WSG] mambo and web standards [MOVED TO CMS]

2005-05-17 Thread Peter Firminger
Absolutely correct Lawrence. I (as a CMS developer) understand very well the need for standards compliant systems and a place to discuss the issues. That is why encourage anyone that is interested (and sadly, many developers are not) to join and use the WSG-CMS list. Just log in to

RE: [WSG] Online payments [CLOSED]

2005-05-13 Thread Peter Firminger
Yeah WAY OT, Please respond to Erwin off list. This list only covers web standards, if the brief was bigger than that it would explode and become unusable. There are no web standards involved in server-side technologies and tasks like card processing. We have a CMS list to discuss the output of

RE: [WSG] Privacy Statements - THREAD CLOSED

2005-05-09 Thread Peter Firminger
Goodbye! P -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 10:23 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org; russ - maxdesign Cc: Web Standards Group Subject: Re: [WSG] Privacy Statements - THREAD CLOSED

Re: [WSG] Juicy Studio offline [CLOSED]

2005-05-03 Thread Peter Firminger
Way OT now folks. Please send suggestions to Gez at the email address mentioned on the page (as Douglas correctly asked you to do). P Visit his site for more information about the situation and how to contact him with suggestions. http://juicystudio.com/ Thank you!

RE: [WSG] Mystical belief in the power of Web Standards, Usability, and tableless CSS

2005-04-20 Thread Peter Firminger
quote There is nothing wrong with any of the above except they're being touted by...guess who?...people who offer web design services specializing in...guess what?...Web Standards, Usability, and tableless CSS. These are simply tools. Remember, nobody gets excited about the tools used to build a

RE: [WSG] Mystical belief in the power of Web Standards, Usability, and tableless CSS

2005-04-20 Thread Peter Firminger
Further more (this rubbish by or about people justifying their inability to do a job right really annoys me). A person developing a website is expected to produce a product that serves HTML or XHTML and through that some other files (images, stylesheets etc.) to a browser. Lets just go with the

RE: [WSG] Adobe Buys Macromedia [CLOSED and Moved to Blog]

2005-04-18 Thread Peter Firminger
Oh, and sorry...this is fairly off topic. Apologies... Patrick Yes I was thinking the same. Very interesting news with on-topic repercussions down the track but not really a valid discussion point here and now. However, I have set up a page in the WSG Blog for this discussion...

[WSG] Housekeeping [ADMIN]

2005-04-14 Thread Peter Firminger
mail client but as far as I know you can get the posters direct address from the From address. In Outlook it is shown as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Peter Firminger [EMAIL PROTECTED] and by double clicking Peter Firminger you are given the address in a dialogue box to copy. The alternative

RE: [WSG] Page views per month, peak rates in an hour [CLOSED]

2005-03-28 Thread Peter Firminger
Way off topic... Please reply to Siggy off list. Listdad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sigurd Magnusson Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 8:38 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: SPAM: [WSG] Page views per month, peak rates in

[WSG] CMS List

2005-03-14 Thread Peter Firminger
You are using them old command method to subscribe and this has been disabled. Log into the WSG site and change your email prefs to include the CMS list. P I know this might be slightly off toic, but the CMS listserv on WSG won't allow me to subscribe: Sorry, the mailing list

RE: [WSG] 2 questions: antispam code Doc type...

2005-03-07 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi Devendra, Character Encoding mismatch! The character encoding specified in the HTTP header (utf-8) is different from the value in the meta element (iso-8859-1). I will use the value from the HTTP header (utf-8) for this validation. ColdFusionMX serves a character encoding in the http

[WSG] [ADMIN] Site review requests and new Brisbane organiser

2005-02-22 Thread Peter Firminger
to the WSG Core team. Avril will be sharing the WSG Brisbane duties with Lea de Groot. Regards, Peter Firminger *** http://webboy.net/ info@webboy.net +612 49983388 +614 12932269

RE: [WSG] FW: Site review

2005-02-21 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi James, As the page http://www.organicexpo.com.au/exhibitors/index.php validates as XHTML 1.0 Strict, this may not mean anything but I have had errors or warnings from validators about white space in html comments in the past. !--comment-- wasn't acceptable as there needed to be a space either

RE: [WSG] Tentative validation

2005-02-09 Thread Peter Firminger
You have a mixed doctype, the declaration says strict but the uri points to the transitional dtd. P -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 11:28 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG]

RE: [WSG] Re: XHTML Strict alternative to ol start=11

2005-02-08 Thread Peter Firminger
Can I just offer an opinion here. When thinking of semantics it sometimes helps to go back 20 years and use pen and paper. If you were writing a big list (numbering each item) in a small notepad you would, on successive pages, keep the numbering going. So on the second page, the first item may

RE: [WSG] CSS / JavaScript Problem

2005-01-29 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi Jacobus, You'll need to resend this to the list as it was blocked and only sent to me because you had a read receipt request on it. Regards, Peter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jacobus van Niekerk Sent: Saturday, January 29,

RE: [WSG] Is sending abusive spam doing standards good or harm?

2005-01-06 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi all, If you have any specific concerns please forward them to info@webboy.net or [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll just mention that you can't write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] as it's a closed list and you'll be rejected posting to it unless you are subscribed. Sorry Mark :( I am working on another form

[WSG Announce] ADMIN: Changes to WSG login system

2005-01-03 Thread Peter Firminger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] to discuss anything in this email. Regards, Peter Firminger The announce list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/

[WSG] ADMIN: Changes to WSG login system

2005-01-03 Thread Peter Firminger
semantically correct, change the way the resources section is presented and add a new Jobs section for advertising (standards related) positions vacant. Please do not respond to the WSG list. Please email [EMAIL PROTECTED] to discuss anything in this email. Regards, Peter Firminger

RE: [WSG] PHP script [ADMIN] THREAD CLOSED

2004-12-03 Thread Peter Firminger
Yeah thanks Warren, but we'll look after the traffic control please. Your post just adds to the noise. Please reply to Angus off list about his PHP issues. PHP is not a web standard and is not for discussion here. The guidelines do point this out. P Pretty off topic. WP

[WSG] [ADMIN] Listdad rave (please don't reply on list)

2004-12-02 Thread Peter Firminger
Hey list, A number of things to cover. Please read on. New Zealand: I am stunned by the RSVPs for the upcoming meeting in Wellington. By my reckoning, over 50 people will attend next Thursday evening and it's their first meeting. You Kiwis! Always a surprise up your sleeves. Mike

RE: [WSG] My site is broken in Opera

2004-12-02 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi Alan, I strongly suggest putting the binary stuff into a background image. Google etc. will hate what you have there as will screen readers. Interesting effect but not a good idea unless maybe you put it at the end of the code order. Personally, I'd lose it and use an image as a css

RE: [WSG] W3C REFERER FIX?

2004-11-29 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi, yeah it works on my slave machine running sp1, but I tend not to have that connected, as it will just get eaten by the web (yours is still alive?). it The web never ate my machine pre SP2. Maybe I am more careful about where I browse. looks like it is a sp2 IE thing stripping the

RE: [WSG] Defining A Definition List

2004-11-29 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi, Is a list with one item really a list? Yes absolutely. If there is one person in a room and you are asked to list the names of the people in the room then the list will have one name. P ** The discussion list for

RE: [WSG] Defining A Definition List

2004-11-28 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi, Your second example is not valid; h3 element cannot be contained in dl Quite correct but it can be within the dd. in such way. the first one is ok, but why don't you consider such scenario: h2News/h2 div id=news-001 h3News Name Date/h3 pNews content here.../p

[WSG] PHP is OT

2004-11-28 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi folks, No more PHP discussions please. It's no more a web standard than ColdFusion etc. There are other places for those discussions. If it does happen to come up, please answer off list. Regards, Listdad ** The discussion list for

RE: [WSG] Unsubscribing

2004-11-21 Thread Peter Firminger
These messages really should be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] rather than the list. Not to stop people publicly complaining but to keep the non-standards traffic down for everyone else. No to the forum, this has been discussed before. Yes to the no-mail membership but not until I have time over

RE: [WSG] Help With a weird link style

2004-11-21 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi Genau Jr, The first step when asking for help is always to get the page code valid first. See http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://novo.meucarronovo.com.br/ Most of your problems seem to stem from unescaped ampersands () in links (I haven't looked too far down as there are 153 errors).

RE: [WSG] Font size... [ADMIN - CLOSED AGAIN]

2004-11-20 Thread Peter Firminger
Felix. A thread closed by a core member is not to be opened again. Period! The topic has been exhausted. If you have fresh information on the topic after a thread has been closed, send it directly to the person and not to the list. Peter **

RE: Re[2]: [WSG] Font size and arrogance

2004-11-19 Thread Peter Firminger
Be nice Iain! Final warning. Peter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Iain Harrison Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 7:53 PM To: Lothar B. Baier Subject: Re[2]: [WSG] Font size and arrogance Hello Lothar, Thursday, November 18,

RE: Re[3]: [WSG] Question to the others ...

2004-11-14 Thread Peter Firminger
This is relevant in several respects: Firstly, we have to realise that there are some brain-dead mail filtering systems out there, and have to be careful about the words we use or quote in emails. I don't agree, I can be blue to people I know in person but profanity (including that mild but

RE: HMMMM! RE: [WSG] Lakshmi Satyanarayana/ESS/NSW_AG is out of the office.

2004-11-11 Thread Peter Firminger
Obviously, you don't need to reply to these on list. We see them too and deal with them. P -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sam Hutchinson Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 4:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: H! RE: [WSG]

RE: [WSG] Site check...

2004-11-07 Thread Peter Firminger
Some of this stuff is done best directly to the author, not the list... Use your good judgement when replying please. If it's just a Looks good or an unrelated question then the 1170+ others really don't need the traffic. If it's a standards related issue or question that may help others learn

RE: [WSG] QuickTime and XHTML validation

2004-11-05 Thread Peter Firminger
The problem with that is that (on my machine and at the time 64k ISDN connection) it took about 3 minutes for the content to display, I assume because it was loading the QT first. The source code was all there while waiting to render. Try this:

RE: [WSG] links with same names

2004-11-03 Thread Peter Firminger
Predictable is a good thing. Expectations met! Usability has a lot to do with predictability. The 'kiss' principle is always a good place to start. The whole Find out more about ... at the bottom of each page looks too predictable. You can adjust the words to suit the site e.g.: Find out more

[ADMIN] RE: [WSG] OT: We need some international help! Urgently!

2004-10-29 Thread Peter Firminger
A perfect example of what not to send to this list. Throwing in the line and of cause a lot of webstandard skills (sic) does not put it on-topic. I suggest all new members read the guidelines (see the link in the footer). Traffic (and signal-to-noise ratio) is an issue on this list (especially

RE: [WSG] Help with fieldset in a li

2004-10-28 Thread Peter Firminger
I notice that some people nest the input within the legend whereas I don't: Example: label for=nameName:br / input type=text name=name id=name size=55 //label or mine: label for=nameName:/labelbr / input type=text name=name id=name size=55 / Does it make any difference? The ID ties them

RE: [WSG] Help with fieldset in a li

2004-10-28 Thread Peter Firminger
Yes, my use of the word legend should have read label. D'oh! P However in relation to legend, a whole bunch of labels and inputs can be presented within one legend. Roger I notice that some people nest the input within the legend whereas I don't:

RE: RE: [WSG] how so I stop all the postings coming to my email box?

2004-10-19 Thread Peter Firminger
Means I screwed up! Still tweaking it... Thanks for this. P WSG's feed page (http://webstandardsgroup.org/rss.cfm) gives me this error when I viewed it (FF 1.0PR, Win XP): + + + + + + + + + + + CODE + + + + + + + + + + XML Parsing Error: not well-formed Location:

RE: [WSG] how so I stop all the postings coming to my email box?

2004-10-18 Thread Peter Firminger
. Also, we are in an entirely different time zone to you in Arizona (though our server is actually in Phoenix), all the core group are in eastern Australia. Welcome to the group Casey, I hope this clears up your questions. Regards, Peter Firminger From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mai

RE: [WSG] web photo album [ADMIN]

2004-10-14 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi folks, This isn't on topic at all. We don't talk about specific web applications on this list, just the concepts surrounding the output of any system. Please continue this discussion on the CMS list as that is far more appropriate (the content being the images in this case). See the resources

RE: [WSG] CSS Validation query

2004-10-13 Thread Peter Firminger
Interesting, You may have flummoxed it with the double color reference background-color : #05695c; color : #000; font-family : Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size : 80%; color : #02486c; Try removing the black one (color : #000;) and see if it fixes it. P -Original

RE: [WSG] CSS Validation query

2004-10-13 Thread Peter Firminger
Just a heads up, always look for No errors or warnings. You can get the congrats but still have warnings if you scroll down. Jackie's concern was a warning even though it was valid css. P Congratulations! Valid CSS!This document validates as CSS! Is what I get when I validate the CSS

RE: [WSG] Is XHTML harmful?

2004-10-06 Thread Peter Firminger
Hmmm... but it was also pointed out paste Note that a strict interpretation of the WAI WCAG 1.0 guidelines would indicate that you MUST use XHTML 1.0 if you intent to comply with WAI AA guidelines. See http://www.w3.org/TR/WAI-WEBCONTENT/ Um, no. Not MUST at all. This is

RE: [WSG] IE topnav problems

2004-10-04 Thread Peter Firminger
Um, local machines won't work out here! P -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted Drake Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 2:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] IE topnav problems I am stumped on this issue. Our top nav has a

RE: [WSG] Web standards planet

2004-09-12 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi Jad, I'm afraid I don't really see the point. All these blogs tend to interlink anyway so there's really nothing new here and there are many sites that do this kind of linking (e.g. http://dezwozhere.com/links.html among heaps of others). A site with no content isn't really of any value to

RE: [WSG] Change defaults in IE with CSS style sheet

2004-09-08 Thread Peter Firminger
Go to Tools | Internet Options and at the bottom of the General tab click the Accessibility button and add your stylesheet there. P -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ralph Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 11:59 AM To: [EMAIL

[WSG] Sorry for the huge email folks

2004-08-11 Thread Peter Firminger
Obviously that was meant to be sent to Kay directly. Regards, Peter Firminger *** http://webboy.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1300 666 770 +612 4998 3388 Proudly presenting: Web Essentials 04 Web standards :: accessibility :: inspiration

[WSG] [ADMIN] A plea for plain text to the list

2004-08-05 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi folks, In the last couple of days I have been getting many bounces from the list by mail servers blocking posts as spam because they are in HTML or Outlook Rich Text format. Can I again ask that you try to remember to set your emails to plain text rather than HTML when posting to the list.

RE: [WSG] Why do (some) web developers user Firefox? [ADMIN] Wind it up please

2004-07-29 Thread Peter Firminger
I think we're done on this pretty well OT subject now thanks. P * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help

RE: [WSG] CMS [ADMIN] Moved to CMS List

2004-07-29 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi, There is a specific WSG list for CMS matters. Please join and use that list for this discussion. http://webstandardsgroup.org/go/resource131.cfm for details. P -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geoff Deering Sent: Friday, July 30,

RE: [WSG] A California meeting? was Brisbane July Meeting - Report

2004-07-17 Thread Peter Firminger
Hey folks, We don't need on-list confirmations of where you are thanks. If your details are right in the login database then we know. Thanks, Peter * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

[WSG] Meetings in new cities

2004-07-16 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi all, If you want to see how many people are in your area (and if you have over ten you can probably start a meeting group) please log into the site, scroll down on the member home page to Country/Member count and click View Details (or just go to

RE: [WSG] A California meeting? was Brisbane July Meeting - Report

2004-07-16 Thread Peter Firminger
Marina Del Rey, CA is a suburb of Los Angeles, California. Paradise!!! :-) Best, Jim Barricks Might be best to list yourself as Los Angeles then, or is it really too far spread? I've only seen the airport :) This is why we ask for the general city rather than suburbs or sattelite cities. I

RE: Future.....(was: Re: [WSG] iFrames vs Scrolling Divs)

2004-07-08 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi Scott, The process is open. Join W3C, get on a working group and contribute to you're heart's content. But you'll need to know a lot more than you do now. No offence but I think you'll be out of your depth just getting out of the elevator (as I would be).

RE: [WSG] Jobs and the list - where else?

2004-07-07 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi, Russ is in New Zealand at the moment and the end of the financial year was not good for either of us. For the moment I don't have time to build a new section for job ads, but it's in the list of things to do. I don't believe it's a good solution though as it will still require people to

RE: [WSG] THREAD CLOSED - Redesigning smh.com.au theage.com.au with css

2004-06-21 Thread Peter Firminger
Title: RE: [WSG] Redesigning smh.com.au & theage.com.au with css Sorry folks, nothing really wrong here but the subject line is giving me grief.Some Governmentspam filters see ; in the subject and throw it back to me and I'm getting swamped. Stupid really but there you go. If you must

RE: [WSG] OT: Intranet Search utility [ANSWER TO SENDER ONLY PLEASE]

2004-06-14 Thread Peter Firminger
Please answer this off list as it has nothing to do with Web Standards. P I am looking for a (preferably free) software to be able to do searches on an Intranet site. The Intranet is hosted on a local Unix Server. Any inputs would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Amit Karmakar

RE: [WSG] Interesting reading

2004-06-14 Thread Peter Firminger
Then again, according to the article (rant): changing standards = OXYMORON That's why there are different versions and subversions. 3.2, 4.0 and 4.01 are all different beasts. They don't change. If you're an idiot that doesn't think a doctype is required because you don't understand it, then

[WSG] Category for Standards-based applications

2004-06-13 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi List, I have added (at the request of Bert Doorn) a resources section for server applications that output valid code. Bert's question included the following: - In order to further promote standards compliant (x)html and css websites, I wonder if we could as a group provide a

RE: [WSG] file extensions

2004-06-12 Thread Peter Firminger
Not a good idea for the average website. If you're running amazon.com then there would be a reason to do it but for most of us maintenance would be an issue. P From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher KennonSent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 9:28

[WSG] Workshop on the W3C's Semantic Web Services Activity

2004-06-11 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi list, For our Queensland members (or anyone else that has a travel budget to get them to Brisbane for a Queensland mid-winter weekend): The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) is a non-for-profit, vendor-neutral international Web standards organisation that develops

[WSG] G RATED LIST

2004-06-10 Thread Peter Firminger
LOL Yeah, I'm not laughing! You should see the bounces I get from many many (Government) mail servers that block anything containing the f word (probably when it is in a URL). New rule (I really didn't think we had to make a rule about this) Anyone using profanity on this list in future will

RE: [WSG] meta http-equiv :- CORRECTION

2004-06-09 Thread Peter Firminger
Nope sorry, The correct content type or MIME type for an XHTML document is application/xhtml+xml. This (mime type issue) is only required for XHTML 1.1. You don't have to do it for XHTML 1.0 Transitional (which the example was). The answer to Jamie's original question is to have a look at the

RE: [WSG] Standard Hacks?

2004-06-09 Thread Peter Firminger
Russ and I have discussed this at length and we have come to the opinion that the @import rule (when used in that manner) is indeed a hack but a harmless one. The reasoning is that it exploits a bug or particular behaviour in a browser. In this case, older browsers don't understand it at all and

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