[wsjt-devel] waterfall display speed in wsjt

[Richard Bown]

Hi all
Is there any way of speeding up the waterfall rate, the setting 5 isn't
quite fast enough for watching doppler shift off aircraft reflections.
Yes, I know I'm not using it for what it was designed for :), but it
saves firing up another app , SDR or similar, just for monitoring.

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Re: [wsjt-devel] add another mode rx only please

[Richard Bown]

A point of clarification 

My original posting was a request to add a demod facility in WSJT
for the PI4 mode, as nix support is lacking for that mode.

However, it demonstrates that it would be useful for others as well.




On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 17:45:45 +1000
Alan VK2ZIW bea...@unixservice.com.au wrote:

 Yes please,
 
 Mode: PI4
 
 With the ODROID C1 and other ARM low power boards being available,
 remote receiving sites can do a lot under 10W. 
 
 Me, Banana Pi with a SATA disk.
 
 http://rudius.net/oz2m/ngnb/pi4.htm
 
 Alan VK2ZIW
 
 On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 19:55:26 +, Richard Bown wrote
  Hi
  I'll probably get flamed, hung drawn and quartered for this, but
  is there any chance of adding a PI4 decode mode with wsjt please.
  On of the really good features of the WSJT suite is the platform 
  support, whether win, mac ,linux and others.. A shame that other 
  mode developers can not see the benefits of such and only support 
  the Gates brigade. It would be very useful for monitoring beacons 
  that use that mode, especially for the nix users.
  
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[wsjt-devel] add another mode rx only please

[Richard Bown]

Hi
I'll probably get flamed, hung drawn and quartered for this, but
is there any chance of adding a PI4 decode mode with wsjt please.
On of the really good features of the WSJT suite is the platform support, 
whether
win, mac ,linux and others..
A shame that other mode developers can not see the benefits of such and only 
support the Gates
brigade.
It would be very useful for monitoring beacons that use that mode, especially 
for the nix users.

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Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT PPAs

[Richard Bown]

On Tue, 5 May 2015 16:36:45 +0100
Richard Bown rich...@g8jvm.com wrote:

 Hi
 Are there some where PPAs usable ubuntu , linuxmint ect containing wsjt10,
 I went to compile the latest and I'm getting a few probs where I've a mix of 
 python2.7 and 3.4 ( I
 think) on my machines, the last build I had which was OK until upgrading to 
 LM17.1 was r42xx.
 
 Thanks
 

I'm now back up and running again r5247, I had to modify the Makefile to use 
/usr/bin/python3.4
and /usr/bin/f2py3.4

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[wsjt-devel] Rpi2 , how RF quiet is it

[Richard Bown]

Hi Greg and all
As you and others have been playing with the Rpi2, how RF quiet is it,
My operation is mainly 10 mtrs and above , but still suffer from harmonics from 
various data
devices.
If it too far OT please answer direct, but I suspect there may be others 
interested running JT modes
that are looking at smaller hardware
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Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X Development Status

[Richard Bown]

On Sat, 23 May 2015 13:19:35 +0200
Peter Frenning [OZ1PIF] pe...@frenning.dk wrote:

 Den 22-05-2015 kl. 22:51 skrev Joe Taylor:
 Hi all,
 
 I have some further thoughts on topics raised in my message earlier today.
 
 As I stated there, the planned incorporation of all WSJT slow modes 
 (JT4, JT9, JT65, and WSPR) in WSJT-X is nearing completion.
 
 Some time ago we noted that the usage and program behavior in the WSJT 
 fast modes (FSK441, JT6M, JTMS, and ISCAT) are sufficiently different 
 from the slow modes that it seems best to isolate them in separate 
 programs.  Doing this would leave WSJT-X and MAP65 as the only active 
 branches in our present SVN repository.  In practice this means 
 primarily WSJT-X, since I regard MAP65 as essentially complete and in 
 need only of occasional maintenance updates.
 
 A Qt-based program supporting the fast modes would then be required, to 
 replace the current Python-based WSJT10.  I had imagined that this might 
 be a next major project to tackle, from scratch... but in fact this may 
 not be necessary.
 
 Christo Hristov, LZ2HV, has already built a WSJT fast-modes program.  He 
 calls it MSHV, and it looks very good.  It has all the WSJT fast modes 
 and essentially all the fast-mode features, with some evident 
 improvements.  Its user interface is all new (but has essentially the 
 same look and feel as WSJT).  Its encoders  and decoders are direct 
 translations from WSJT's Fortran into C++.
 
 In short, to me it no longer seems worthwhile to think of starting a new 
 WSJT-fast-modes program.  Instead, we could use one of these options, or 
 some combination of both:
 
 1. We could simply direct WSJT fast-mode users to Christo's program, 
 perhaps posting links to it on the WSJT web site.
 
   ... and/or ...
 
 2. We could start with his source code, but build our own executables 
 from it -- no doubt modifying it in some ways, probably minor at first. 
   In this case we would give Christo (and his collaborators) full credit 
 for their work.  (It is licensed under GPL v3.0 -- as it must be, since 
 it's ultimately based on WSJT.)
 
 I haven't tried compiling Christo's program yet.  As you'll see on his 
 SourceForge web page, https://sourceforge.net/projects/mshv/ -- see also 
 http://lz2hv.org/mshv -- he builds with Qt 4.8.6, MinGW, and gcc 4.9.2, 
 and he statically links everything(!).  So compiling with our standard 
 tool set will take a bit a bit of effort, at first.  But I imagine that 
 it would be not too difficult to transition his code to our set of build 
 tools and our manner of packaging, if we choose to do that.
 
 Christo posts installable packages for Windows XP/7 and for 32- and 
 64-bit Linux.  The packaging uses a rather different approach than ours, 
 and perhaps has some licensing issues.
 
 I would be interested in the views of others in our development group!
 
   -- Joe, K1JT
 I've started testing Christo's package, unfortunately I'm not able to bring 
 the Linux version up
 on my Mint 17.1 system, but in the interim I can report that the Windows 
 version runs in all
 essentials on Wine. I really like what he has done with it, and either of the 
 options given by
 Joe would work for me.
 



I'm running LM17.1 x86_64 and the downloadable version on his site fails to run.

so I downloaded the full source code from sourceforge and tried running qmake, 
that bombed out as
it couldn't find a blog page ?
So next just ran make
 and it didn't like the location of libasound, and LM didn't like a symlink.
So I created /usr/lib64 and copied libasound.so* in to it ran make and a 
working executable
appeared in the bin directory

I looks quite nice 

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[wsjt-devel] ISCAT-A question

[Richard Bown]

Hi all
I'm ready to get flamed :)
I'm about to repair the 10 GHz system and try using ISCAT-A over a 500Km path.
What I'd like to do is continually send the same short message , callsign and 4 
digits of the QRA,
for hours at a time .
That means tying up the shack computer,
Is it possible to produce the audio tones from a PIC, or the alternative a 
small headless ARM SBC  ?
A PIC would be ideal as I could embed it in the transceiver, no need to decode 
anything, if I'm
lucky enough to get heard , I can just use the shack computer .

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Re: [wsjt-devel] Problems with wsjt.py compiled on Linux mint

[Richard Bown]

On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 10:47:26 +0100
Richard Bown rich...@g8jvm.com wrote:

 On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 03:13:45 +0200
 Håken Hveem krbjh...@online.no wrote:
 
  Ok, i have tried to build it with jtsdk, and that results in exactly the
  same sample rate related bug.
 snip
 Hej Haaken
 If you still have problems , I 'll download the same version as you and see 
 if I get the same
 errors. I use LM17.1 x86_64
 At the moment I'm using wsjt-r5329 which runs fine
 Depending on which DM you are using right click on Menu and open the menu 
 editor
 create a launcher for WSJT in what ever menu you like and point it at the 
 directory you built wsjt
 in that contains wsjt.py
 
 I use in the launcher python3 -O /home/richard/SDR/wsjt-r5329/wsjt.py
 that should give you an idea of what to put in.
 then once done4 you can start wsjt from the menu or desktop icon
 
 I'd ignore comments like jack doesn't work well with mint, jack works OK, 
 just make sure you use
 the right version as there is jack and jack2.
 Its a very useful tool for routing audio, I've used it in the past to route 
 wsjt audio to one of
 two transceivers by swapping left and right channels on the sound card 

Further to the last mail I downloaded wsjt trunk R5825
ran ./configure with the portaudio include and lib paths, then make and found 
it was trying to use
python2.7 to build.  

Check your have the package python3 and python3-dev packages installed
Edit the Makefile 

change the python and f2py lines to this:-
# WSJT specific Fortran flags
FFLAGS  +=  -O2 -fbounds-check -fno-second-underscore -Wall 
-Wno-conversion -Wno-character-truncation
CFLAGS  +=  -I. -DBIGSYM -DHAVE_STRUCT_TIMESPEC -fPIC

PYTHON  ?=  /usr/bin/python3
F2PY?=  /usr/bin/f2py3.4

run make
and then while your in the same directory python3 -O wsjt.py



up it pops no problem shows as R5755

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Re: [wsjt-devel] Problems with wsjt.py compiled on Linux mint

[Richard Bown]

 that many other folks running Linux mint 17 and a rigblaster
 advantage has the same problem.
 Also,perhaps changing it to use a different sound mobile, perhaps
 portaudio is a solution.
 
 I am tired of hassling with this problem, and i am simply giving it up
 until the bugs in ALSA or WSJT are solved by the developers.
 
 Den 29. aug. 2015 13:35, skrev Bill Somerville:
  On 29/08/2015 12:19, Richard Bown wrote:
  Edit the Makefile
 
  change the python and f2py lines to this:-
  # WSJT specific Fortran flags
  FFLAGS  +=  -O2 -fbounds-check -fno-second-underscore -Wall 
  -Wno-conversion
  -Wno-character-truncation CFLAGS  +=  -I. -DBIGSYM 
  -DHAVE_STRUCT_TIMESPEC -fPIC
 
  PYTHON  ?=  /usr/bin/python3
  F2PY?=  /usr/bin/f2py3.4
 
  run make
  There should be no need to change the Makefile directly. Makefile 
  variables can be overridden from the make command line:
  
$ make PYTHON=/usr/bin/python3 F2PY=/usr/bin/f2py3.4
  
  I am no expert in WSJT building so even this my not be necessary but if 
  it is then this is the safest way to do it.
  
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Problems with wsjt.py compiled on Linux mint

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gt;>  Errortext: Invalid sample rate
> >>  Number: -9997
> >> Error  3 in JTaudio, you will only be able to work offline.
> > Hi All,
> > 
> > watching the slow progress of this thread in terms of resolutions has 
> > annoyed me enough to look at the source code of WSJT. Although I am not 
> > an expert in Linux audio configurations, maybe the following comments 
> > might help:
> > 
> > WSJT opens portaudio input and output streams expecting to get a 16bit 
> > 11.025kHz sample rate and two channels. It would appear, from the error 
> > messages, that the RigBlaster codec is mono for input and doesn't 
> > directly support 11.025kHz sample rates.
> > 
> > If I were having this issue I would investigate how to create a output 
> > virtual sound device which supports a 11.025kHz sample rate and an input 
> > virtual sound device that maps a single channel to left and right stereo 
> > along with a 11.025kHz sample rate. This may be possible using ALSA 
> > configuration (~/.asoundrc) or maybe by using pulseaudio which has 
> > advanced virtual device construction and an ALSA backend capability so 
> > could be accessed via the portaudio library that WSJT uses.
> > 
> > The way WSJT is coded does not allow for other sample rates or channel 
> > configurations so the above mapping are needed for it to work with the 
> > RigBlaster codec.
> > 
> > YMMV
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Problems with wsjt and Rigblaster advantage on Ubuntu

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On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 13:36:59 +0200
Håken Hveem <krbjh...@online.no> wrote:

> Here is the error messages from my attempt to run WSJT from Kamals ppa
> on my ubuntu distro:
> 
> 
> wsjt
> **
> WSJT Version 9.3 r2792 , by K1JT
> Revision date: 2012-12-12 08:12:50 -0800 (Wed, 12 Dec 2012)
> Run date: Mon Aug 31 11:17:32 2015 UTC
> ALSA lib pcm.c:2239:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.rear
> ALSA lib pcm.c:2239:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.center_lfe
> ALSA lib pcm.c:2239:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.side
> bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111)
> bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111)
> bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111)
> bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111)
> Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory
> Cannot connect to server request channel
> jack server is not running or cannot be started
> 
> Audio Input Output Device Name
> Device Channels Channels
> --
> 0 2 8 HDA Intel PCH: ALC892 Analog (hw:0,0)
> 1 0 2 HDA Intel PCH: ALC892 Digital (hw:0,1)
> 2 2 0 HDA Intel PCH: ALC892 Alt Analog (hw:0,2)
> 3 0 8 HDA NVidia: HDMI 0 (hw:1,3)
> 4 0 8 HDA NVidia: HDMI 1 (hw:1,7)
> 5 0 8 HDA NVidia: HDMI 2 (hw:1,8)
> 6 0 8 HDA NVidia: HDMI 3 (hw:1,9)
> 7 1 2 RIGblaster Advantage Audio: USB Audio (hw:2,0)
> 8 128 128 sysdefault
> 9 0 8 front
> 10 0 8 surround40
> 11 0 128 surround41
> 12 0 128 surround50
> 13 0 8 surround51
> 14 0 8 surround71
> 15 0 2 iec958
> 16 0 2 spdif
> 17 32 32 pulse
> 18 0 2 dmix
> 19 32 32 default
> 
> User requested devices: Input = 7 Output = 7
> Default devices: Input = 19 Output = 19
> Will open devices: Input = 7 Output = 7
> ALSA lib pcm.c:2239:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.rear
> ALSA lib pcm.c:2239:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.center_lfe
> ALSA lib pcm.c:2239:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.side
> bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111)
> bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111)
> bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111)
> bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111)
> Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory
> Cannot connect to server request channel
> jack server is not running or cannot be started
> Expression 'parameters->channelCount <= maxChans' failed in
> 'src/hostapi/alsa/pa_linux_alsa.c', line: 1514
> Expression 'ValidateParameters( inputParameters, hostApi,
> StreamDirection_In )' failed in 'src/hostapi/alsa/pa_linux_alsa.c',
> line: 1838
> device 7 failed a request for two channels, trying with one channel
> Error opening input audio stream.
> Errortext: Invalid sample rate
> Number: -9997
> Error opening output audio stream.
> Errortext: Invalid sample rate
> Number: -9997
> Error 3 in JTaudio, you will only be able to work offline.
> 
> Exactly the same error messages appears when i try to run it on Linux
> mint 17.2
> 
Try using pulse audio to interface between the USB card and wsjt.



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Re: [wsjt-devel] Problems with wsjt and Rigblaster advantage on Ubuntu

[Richard Bown]

On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 14:21:04 +0200
Håken Hveem <krbjh...@online.no> wrote:

> And how do i interface interface between the USB card and wsjt, with
> pulse audio ?
> 
> 
Select pulse as the interface and the the pulseaudio manager to connect to the 
correct source and
sink.
 Read this and the links
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/Documentation/User/
And try using an up to date version of wsjt , 9.3 is pretty ancient.
Suggest you also subscribe to the pulseaudio list. There are some very 
knowledgeable  people on
that list that can help you with this audio interface problem.

> 
> Den 31. aug. 2015 13:51, skrev Richard Bown:
> > On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 13:36:59 +0200
> > Håken Hveem <krbjh...@online.no> wrote:
> > 
> >> Here is the error messages from my attempt to run WSJT from Kamals ppa
> >> on my ubuntu distro:
> >>
> >>
> >> wsjt
> >> **
> >> WSJT Version 9.3 r2792 , by K1JT
> >> Revision date: 2012-12-12 08:12:50 -0800 (Wed, 12 Dec 2012)
> >> Run date: Mon Aug 31 11:17:32 2015 UTC
> >> ALSA lib pcm.c:2239:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.rear
> >> ALSA lib pcm.c:2239:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM 
> >> cards.pcm.center_lfe
> >> ALSA lib pcm.c:2239:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.side
> >> bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111)
> >> bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111)
> >> bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111)
> >> bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111)
> >> Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory
> >> Cannot connect to server request channel
> >> jack server is not running or cannot be started
> >>
> >> Audio Input Output Device Name
> >> Device Channels Channels
> >> --
> >> 0 2 8 HDA Intel PCH: ALC892 Analog (hw:0,0)
> >> 1 0 2 HDA Intel PCH: ALC892 Digital (hw:0,1)
> >> 2 2 0 HDA Intel PCH: ALC892 Alt Analog (hw:0,2)
> >> 3 0 8 HDA NVidia: HDMI 0 (hw:1,3)
> >> 4 0 8 HDA NVidia: HDMI 1 (hw:1,7)
> >> 5 0 8 HDA NVidia: HDMI 2 (hw:1,8)
> >> 6 0 8 HDA NVidia: HDMI 3 (hw:1,9)
> >> 7 1 2 RIGblaster Advantage Audio: USB Audio (hw:2,0)
> >> 8 128 128 sysdefault
> >> 9 0 8 front
> >> 10 0 8 surround40
> >> 11 0 128 surround41
> >> 12 0 128 surround50
> >> 13 0 8 surround51
> >> 14 0 8 surround71
> >> 15 0 2 iec958
> >> 16 0 2 spdif
> >> 17 32 32 pulse
> >> 18 0 2 dmix
> >> 19 32 32 default
> >>
> >> User requested devices: Input = 7 Output = 7
> >> Default devices: Input = 19 Output = 19
> >> Will open devices: Input = 7 Output = 7
> >> ALSA lib pcm.c:2239:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.rear
> >> ALSA lib pcm.c:2239:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM 
> >> cards.pcm.center_lfe
> >> ALSA lib pcm.c:2239:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.side
> >> bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111)
> >> bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111)
> >> bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111)
> >> bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111)
> >> Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory
> >> Cannot connect to server request channel
> >> jack server is not running or cannot be started
> >> Expression 'parameters->channelCount <= maxChans' failed in
> >> 'src/hostapi/alsa/pa_linux_alsa.c', line: 1514
> >> Expression 'ValidateParameters( inputParameters, hostApi,
> >> StreamDirection_In )' failed in 'src/hostapi/alsa/pa_linux_alsa.c',
> >> line: 1838
> >> device 7 failed a request for two channels, trying with one channel
> >> Error opening input audio stream.
> >> Errortext: Invalid sample rate
> >> Number: -9997
> >> Error opening output audio stream.
> >> Errortext: Invalid sample rate
> >> Number: -9997
> >> Error 3 in JTaudio, you will only be able to work offline.
> >>
> >> Exactly the same error messages appears when i try to run it on Linux
> >> mint 17.2
> >>
> > Try using pulse audio to interface between the USB card and wsjt.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 



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Re: [wsjt-devel] ARMv7 compatibility

[Richard Bown]

On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 14:13:49 +
Bill Somerville <g4...@classdesign.com> wrote:

> On 29/12/2015 14:00, Richard Bown wrote:
> > Just the audio card to sort out, if Hardkernel don't produce an audio 
> > card,can a USB audio card
> > be recommended that wont break the bank ???
> 
> Hi Richard,
> 
> most cheap USB audio devices work well enough. They should support 48kHz 
> sample rates for WSJT-X, stereo in and out is handy if you have two rigs 
> or dual audio output from your rig but not essential. Many users use the 
> cheapest they can find that meet the above basic specification from 
> eBay/Amazon/choose you favourite electronic vendor. Pro audio devices 
> with XLR connectors surround 24-bit and 192kHz bandwidth may give a 
> slightly better noise floor but that matters little on HF or for scatter 
> modes. Extra bandwidth or more than 16-bit sample size is not going to 
> be used by WSJT or WSJT-X.
> 
> You should not need to spend more that $20.
> 
> Specialist rig interfaces than incorporate full galvanic isolation can 
> be useful if you run QRO or use compromise aerials that can lead to 
> unwanted RF in the shack.
> 
> 73
> Bill
> G4WJS.

Hi Bill
$20 which strangely equates to GBP 20 when translated for Ham products :)
that wont kill the bank
I see the Behringer UCA202 can be obtained for that price and that will sample 
at 96KHz, useful for
playing with SDR
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[wsjt-devel] JTSDK on ARM7

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Hi
Using a Odroid Xu4 running Ubuntu 15 , all the downloaded deb files are armhf
Yet when JTSDK is run I get:-
-
RUN CONFIGURE
-

 Unsupported OS armv7l

-
COMPILE MAIN TARGETS
-

grep: Makefile: No such file or directory
make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.

The CPUs are 
Samsung Exynos5422 Cortex™-A15 2Ghz and Cortex™-A7 Octa core CPUs

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[wsjt-devel] ARMv7 compatibility

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Hi All and a happy new year for Thursday

Is anyone running either WSJTX or WSJT10 on an ODROID XU4 SBC, which is a 2x 
quadcore
( octal core) SBC.
It should have enough grunt to run either, but I'm not sure of the state of QT5 
on ubuntu armhf

The one concern I have is it uses eMMC flash for memory, which continuous 
read/writes with number
crunching tends to reduce life, however , it has USB3 so there is no reason why 
a 2 1/2" HD cant be
used to overcome this.
I suspect there is a audio board for this soon, if not USB audio card.
The Odroid XU4 has considerably more grunt than the Raspberry PI2
My main use is  MS FSK441 

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Re: [wsjt-devel] ARMv7 compatibility

[Richard Bown]

On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 06:32:58 -0700
Greg Beam <ki...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi Bill, Richard,
> 
> At present, ARMv7 builds have to be specifically enabled per package by 
> the Launchpad administrators. All of the WSJT-X packages I have on 
> Launchpad are ARMv7 build enabled (current 1.6.0 GA Release, and v1.7.0 
> Testing version).
> 
> As fare as I am aware, there's no reason WSJT and WSPR (Python3 
> versions) should not run on ARMv7. I tested WSPR on an RPI2 and 
> everything seemed normal, though I was using outboard sound.
> 
> JTSDK-Nix also works on ARMv7 distros like Ubuntu Mate etc, and I've had 
> feedback from a couple users about successful Superbuilds. If your 
> compiling any of the WSJT apps, you'll want to have a descent size swap 
> enabled ~1GB at least.
> 
> 
> 73's
> Greg, KI7MT
> 
> On 12/29/2015 05:31, Bill Somerville wrote:
> > On 29/12/2015 12:21, Richard Bown wrote:
> >> My main use is  MS FSK441
> >
> > Hi Richard,
> >
> > I do not think we are doing official Ubuntu ARM WSJT-X package builds
> > yet but there's no reason I know of that would preclude using WSJT-X on
> > that platform. There are certainly RasPi2 users and that runs WSJT-X
> > reasonably well.
> >
> > I do not know the status of WSJT on ARM but I'm sure it can be made to
> > work once the relevant packages have been installed.
> >
> > AFAIK Qt5 is in the ARM Ubuntu distributions these days.
> >
> > WSJT-X does not support FSK441 currently.
> >
> > 73
> > Bill
> > G4WJS.
> 

Thanks both for the replies
As for compiling and needing ~1GB , it should cope, there's 2GB RAM plus RAM, I 
think about 500MB
on the Mali chip, which can be used before writing to the eMMC Flash, so it 
should cope.
Just the audio card to sort out, if Hardkernel don't produce an audio card,can 
a USB audio card be
recommended that wont break the bank ???

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[wsjt-devel] wspr-15

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Hi all
I was asked by a friend who uses wspr-15 on LF about wsjtx
I see on the menu its greyed out, what the position on this mode ?
is it work in progress or have I missed a s/w switch for it ?
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Re: [wsjt-devel] wspr-15

[Richard Bown]

On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 11:52:10 -0500
Joe Taylor <j...@princeton.edu> wrote:

> Up to now WSPR-15 has not been implemented in any version of WSJT-X.  If 
> there is sufficient interest, this capability could be added to some 
> future release.
> 
>   -- Joe, K1JT


Hi Joe

apparently its quite popular on the LF bands , not that I use them Joe, I tend 
to stay on bands
where the minimum usable antenna gain is 10dB.



> 
> On 11/20/2015 9:49 AM, Richard Bown wrote:
> > Hi all
> > I was asked by a friend who uses wspr-15 on LF about wsjtx
> > I see on the menu its greyed out, what the position on this mode ?
> > is it work in progress or have I missed a s/w switch for it ?
> > Thanks
> >
> >
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Re: [wsjt-devel] JTSDK on ARM7hf

[Richard Bown]

Hi all
I pulled the latest trunk and built wsjt10 , it compiled without a hitch.

on running I get:-

odroid@odroid:~/wsjt10/trunk$ python3 -O wsjt.py
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "wsjt.py", line 9, in 
from WsjtMod import g, Audio
ImportError: /home/odroid/wsjt10/trunk/WsjtMod/Audio.so: undefined symbol: 
PyCObject_Type

I get this from a local terminal and remote, which suggests its early in the 
startup 

I did recompile and got the same

Now as this compiled OK and used arm7hf libs, and everything else, maybe there 
is a problem with
JTSDK on the way it determines host architecture .
I suspect the way ARM SBCs are evolving that they are going to be more and more 
used by Hams as
they have the advantage of much lower power , lower power mean less high 
current pull from the
processors , a major cause of RF noise. The PC desktop market is moving to 
support faster gaming
and windows bloatware, not really what Hams interested in very weak signal work 
want in the shack
IMO


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Re: [wsjt-devel] JTSDK on ARM7hf

[Richard Bown]

On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 08:11:28 -0700
Greg Beam <ki7m...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Richard,
> 
> The PyCObject_Type error and the error your getting when trying to run 
> JTSDK ( the original problem you posted ) are two different things 
> completely.
> 
> The PyCObject_Type error is almost certainly due to the fact when you 
> manually built WSJT-10, the build used Python2-Numpy and not 
> Python3-Numpy. The PyCObject_Type module does not exist in 
> Python2-Numpy, thus the reason for the error. Do you get the same error 
> when you build WSJT-10 with the JTSDK menu or as this from the menu build?
> 
> Can you send me a link to the .deb file you downloaded / used? Something 
> does not look right here.
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 73's
> Greg, KI7MT



Hi Greg 
wsjt10 just wont build with jtsdk, as per the first mail, just gives the 
unsupported message.


on the manual build I downloaded the trunk with svn , ran .configure and then 
make

I'll look at the Makefile and see if I can force the use of python3-numpy and 
not python2-numpy

I'll attack the makefile and let you know the progress

Thanks
> 
> 
> On 1/10/2016 05:37, Richard Bown wrote:
> >
> > Hi all
> > I pulled the latest trunk and built wsjt10 , it compiled without a hitch.
> >
> > on running I get:-
> >
> > odroid@odroid:~/wsjt10/trunk$ python3 -O wsjt.py
> > Traceback (most recent call last):
> >File "wsjt.py", line 9, in 
> >  from WsjtMod import g, Audio
> > ImportError: /home/odroid/wsjt10/trunk/WsjtMod/Audio.so: undefined symbol: 
> > PyCObject_Type
> >
> > I get this from a local terminal and remote, which suggests its early in 
> > the startup
> >
> > I did recompile and got the same
> >
> > Now as this compiled OK and used arm7hf libs, and everything else, maybe 
> > there is a problem with
> > JTSDK on the way it determines host architecture .
> > I suspect the way ARM SBCs are evolving that they are going to be more and 
> > more used by Hams as
> > they have the advantage of much lower power , lower power mean less high 
> > current pull from the
> > processors , a major cause of RF noise. The PC desktop market is moving to 
> > support faster gaming
> > and windows bloatware, not really what Hams interested in very weak signal 
> > work want in the
> > shack IMO
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
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Re: [wsjt-devel] JTSDK on ARM7hf

[Richard Bown]

On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 15:44:53 +
Richard Bown <rich...@g8jvm.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 08:11:28 -0700
> Greg Beam <ki7m...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Richard,
> > 
> > The PyCObject_Type error and the error your getting when trying to run 
> > JTSDK ( the original problem you posted ) are two different things 
> > completely.
> > 
> > The PyCObject_Type error is almost certainly due to the fact when you 
> > manually built WSJT-10, the build used Python2-Numpy and not 
> > Python3-Numpy. The PyCObject_Type module does not exist in 
> > Python2-Numpy, thus the reason for the error. Do you get the same error 
> > when you build WSJT-10 with the JTSDK menu or as this from the menu build?
> > 
> > Can you send me a link to the .deb file you downloaded / used? Something 
> > does not look right here.
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > 73's
> > Greg, KI7MT
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Greg 
> wsjt10 just wont build with jtsdk, as per the first mail, just gives the 
> unsupported message.
> 
> 
> on the manual build I downloaded the trunk with svn , ran .configure and then 
> make
> 
> I'll look at the Makefile and see if I can force the use of python3-numpy and 
> not python2-numpy
> 
> I'll attack the makefile and let you know the progress
> 
> Thanks

Hi Greg 
Changes made to the makefile and its now running, 
I left running in JTMS on 15 secs on auto, doesn't seem to go into TX,
but first see it will stay up and running :)
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Re: [wsjt-devel] JTSDK on ARM7hf

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On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 11:02:46 -0700
Greg Beam <ki...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi Richard,
> 
> OK, thanks. What changes were made to the Makefile? I am assuming the 
> WSJT Makefile is what's being modified here.
> 
> JTSDK does not set nor check for OS subs, the Unsupported OS message 
> must be coming from the WSJT 10 configure.ac / Makefile.
> 
> I'll look at this later this afternoon.
> 
> 73's
> Greg, KI7MT
> 
>

Hi Greg

the python line was changed to python3, f2py to f2py3.4

ie
# TODO: Add Python3 and Python2 locations to configure.ac
PYTHON  ?=  /usr/bin/python3
F2PY?=  /usr/bin/f2py3.4

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Re: [wsjt-devel] JTSDK on ARM7hf

[Richard Bown]

On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 11:48:00 -0700
Greg Beam <ki...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi Richard,
> 
> Ok, that's making more sense now. The Linux WSJT Makefile has not been 
> updated similar to WSPR to find Python3 and it's associated F2PY.
> 
> I was mistaken on the Unsupported OS error message, that *is* coming 
> frrm the JTSDK WSJT build script. I can fix that easily enough, but that 
> does not solve the underlying issue of finding Python3 and F2PY that was 
> built using Python3, which needs to be addressed in the package 
> autotools. This can be tricky on systems that are still using Python2 + 
> Python2-Numpy as defaults. Ubuntu Mate, Mint and similar use both. 
> Debian Jessie still uses Python2 but does not install Python2-Numpy as a 
> Desktop package unless Mate or Cin are selected as defaults.
> 
> You could, rather than modifying the Makefile manually, pass those two 
> locations at configure time, something along the lines of:
> 
> ./configure --with-portaudio-lib-dir= \
> --with-portaudio-include-dir= \
> PYTHON= \
> F2PY=
> 
> That is assuming configure.ac is suitable, and will actually create the 
> Makefile from Makefile.in initially.
> 
> WSPR employes two options to deal with this, --with-python / --with-f2py 
> features as M4 macros, those updates are not present in WSJT autotools 
> yet. Even that is not 100% all of the time. See ./configure --help=short
> 
> 73's
> Greg, KI7MT
> 
Hi Greg
WSJTX has been running now for a couple of hours , taking very little memory 
and cpu
Luckily QT5 is ideal for ARM devices as it can handle GLES .
WSJT10 stays up for 15 mins max before crashing , python3 is hogging 80% of 
available memory :(
I wait til you have sorted JTSDK, I'm not worried about having to edit the 
Makefile, that a minor
thing, but it would be useful to see if the auto build still gets python memory 
hogging.
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Raspberry PI

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On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 14:46:44 -0200
"Edson W. R. Pereira" <ewpere...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Richard,
> 
> Ok! My apologies. I must have misunderstood what you wrote.
> 
> 73, Edson PY2SDR
> 
> 
HI Edson

I tried to simplify it as much as possible, may be too much, but I was under 
the impression

that the originator of the question may not of understood the full process.

BTW I still use dttsp and SDR-shell, IMO it still is one the best for detecting 
the presence of a
signal below ear detection threshold.
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Raspberry PI

[Richard Bown]

On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 12:42:35 +
Bill Somerville <g4...@classdesign.com> wrote:

> On 15/01/2016 12:31, Paul wrote:
> > Can any one tell me if the IQ software will be added to wsjtx.
> Hi Paul,
> 
> it is not currently being worked on. In general there are two related 
> issues with using IQ data, firstly it has to be "demodulated" and 
> secondly the mode and frequency of demodulation needs to be set. These 
> equate roughly to setting the dial frequency and mode on an analog rig. 
> Most receiver implementations that provide IQ data have some sort of CAT 
> interface to set their LO frequency and a separate SDR application is 
> needed to demodulate to audio. AFAIK all these SDR applications provide 
> a CAT interface that emulates some analog rig. Therefore running an SDR 
> application meets all the requirements for WSJT-X.
> 
> I suggest that you investigate using HDSDR or similar as an intermediary 
> between the receiver (and transmitter) and WSJT-X. We have made 
> allowance in the WSJT-X/Hamlib sources to make them work with HDSDR when 
> the TS-2000 rig type is used. You cannot use split operating for 
> JT9+JT65 dual mode but that should not be necessary with an all digital 
> audio chain and the ability to select 4kHz wide filters for Rx and Tx.
> 
> 73
> Bill
> G4WJS.
> 
>
I'm not that sure that IQ software is needed for using a softrock with wsjtx

The output streams form the softrock are audio,just one stream 90 degrees out 
of phase with the
other.
The width of the frequency displayed on a SDR fed from a softrock depends on 
the bandwidth of the
audio card and the sampling rate. as the LO is not being swept the content is 
stable.
So if you then filter one of the streams, it doesn't matter which , you will 
see whats in the
bandwidth of that filter
So Just connect just one of the outputs of the softrock  in to the audio input 
of the soundcard, 
and as far as I'm aware it will work fine with wsjtx, remember you will have to 
tune the softrock
as you would a normal receiver.
You can feed a SDR with just an single audio feed and you will see the local 
ocillator and a
positive spectrum on the right and a negative on the left, using a I input 
allows you to remove
the unwanted sideband , ie the negative image to the left. or vice versa if you 
select that.

All the softrock is , is superhet Rx with a DC IF, the output is DC to what 
ever the upper audio
freq response  ( as a microwave merchant I regard anything below 100 MHz as DC 
with some ripple !)

The audio output is exactly the same ish as taking the the audio from a 
Receiver post demodulator,
ie audio.

Just connect it and select either one of the audio o/ps from the softrock.

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Re: [wsjt-devel] Raspberry PI

[Richard Bown]

On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 13:32:35 +
nick <g3...@uk6.net> wrote:

> On 15/01/16 12:42, Bill Somerville wrote:
> > I suggest that you investigate using HDSDR or similar as an intermediary
> > between the receiver (and transmitter) and WSJT-X
> 
> Paul
> 
> I use dttsp/sdr-shell/jack running on Mint linux for this purpose.
> 
> It works well.
> 
> 73
> 
> Nick G3VNC
> 
hi Nick
That may well work on a Rasp PI2/PI2 clone , sdr-shell is QT4 and Franks dttsp 
shouldn't grab too
much of the resources, there are later versions where core to shell are usable 
with a network
connection between. there is a separate yahoo group for this.

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Re: [wsjt-devel] Raspberry PI

[Richard Bown]

On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 14:23:48 -0200
"Edson W. R. Pereira" <ewpere...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Richard Bown <rich...@g8jvm.com> wrote:
> 
> >
> > You can feed a SDR with just an single audio feed and you will see the
> > local ocillator and a
> > positive spectrum on the right and a negative on the left, using a I
> > input allows you to remove
> > the unwanted sideband , ie the negative image to the left. or vice versa
> > if you select that.
> >
> >
> Richard,
> 
> I'm afraid this is incorrect. If you use only one of the channels and run a
> real to real FFT on it you will see a mirrored spectrum. The negative
> spectrum will be an exact mirror of the positive one. In order to see
> negative and positive frequencies you will need both audio channels (I and
> Q) and run a complex FFT.
> 
> 73, Edson PY2SDR

 Thats what I said Edson :)

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Re: [wsjt-devel] Raspberry Pi

[Richard Bown]

On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 17:53:37 -
"Paul" <paul.codding...@btinternet.com> wrote:

> Thanks for your comments and suggestions.
> 
> I agree that a complex detector is not needed to decode signals from a 
> Softrock and I have been
> able to decode JT65 and JT9 signals using wsjtx on both my RPi 2 and windows. 
> The RPi 2 version
> of wsjtx I use was via a direct download. I did not appreciate that I could 
> use HDSDR as an
> intermediate – so I will look to try this. I currently use HDSDR and PowerSDR 
> for ssb contacts.
> 
> Now I tried to compile and build the current version of wsjtx on my RPi 2 
> using JTSDK and I got
> the following error: C++ internal compiler error, immediately after  Building 
> CXX
> object ... /echograph.cpp.o
> 
> Can someone help please.
> 
> 73 
> Paul m1bkl

Paul look at the last long line during the compile, and the couple of lines 
afterwards.
In that you should be able to see it cant find a lib or file.
then try installing that lib with the -dev suffix.

Now if you have another computer running linux, one of the debian variants, 
mint ,ubuntu ect
open synaptic and search with the filename that was in those last lines.
When you see the results make a note of those with that look the same with a 
-dev on the end of the
filename.
Then go back to the PI and use apt-get to install the missing lib, and try the 
compile again.
There apt CLI commands to do similat, see man apt and man apt-get.
I've guessed you are running raspberian .
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Re: [wsjt-devel] sdr-shell

[Richard Bown]

On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 20:10:10 +
nick <g3...@uk6.net> wrote:

> On 15/01/16 14:56, Edson W. R. Pereira wrote:
> > I am glad to see that sdr-shell is still useful and is still being used ten
> > years after I first released it.
> 
> Hi Edson
> 
> Firstly, a big thank you for all your hard work on sdr-shell.  It has 
> proved invaluable here in this non-Windows environment for controlling 
> dttsp.
> 
> I have written various shell scripts to drive dttsp, but I always 
> include sdr-shell because it has so much useful functionality.
> 
> My experience with dttsp/sdr-shell is that it is very economical with 
> machine resources.  It is in use here on a daily basis for CW and other 
> digital modes on HF.
> 
> So far I have managed to make it do everything I want with the Softrock 
> RXTX.
> 
> 73
> 
> Nick G3VNC
> 
> 
> 
Hi Nick
try the "dttsp-linux" yahoo group , there was activity on the list last in 
October.
I cant remember the name of the group supporting the follow on project.
HTH

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Re: [wsjt-devel] Raspberry Pi

[Richard Bown]

On Wed, 13 Jan 2016 21:41:59 +
Bill Somerville <g4...@classdesign.com> wrote:

> On 13/01/2016 21:28, Richard Bown wrote:
> > Therefore, IHO, its better to use a QEMU VM on a linux host and know your 
> > code works, than to
> > just cross compile and hope it works.
> Hi Richard,
> 
> You say:
> 
> "The disadvantage of cross compiling is you still need to test it"
> 
> Are you implying that build on the target means you don't need to test, 
> that doesn't sound right to me!
> 
> We leave all the cross platform differences to the compiler and Qt 
> teams. As far as WSJT-X is concerned the source code is identical on 
> every platform except for some trivial differences about file system 
> layouts but they are operating system dependent rather than hardware 
> dependent.
> 
> I have always used cross tools with the 'install' target sending the 
> built product to a network device that is shared with the target (or on 
> smaller targets actually flashing the target) so I build on a fast 
> desktop and test on the target, seamlessly. I don't see the problem and 
> your comments about "bloat" seem to be something from personal view of 
> development ;)
> 
> Amongst other things, I do the production builds for WSJT-X and I would 
> like a set up where I can make an ARMv7 package without having the 
> target on the bench here.
> 
> 73
> Bill
> G4WJS.
> 
I'm not going to get in to argument over it Bill.
But if you want to open WSJTX up to everyone with a tablet cross compile and 
hope wont work.
The old argument that tablets cant be used due to audio drivers is extinct.
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Raspberry Pi

[Richard Bown]

On Wed, 13 Jan 2016 11:28:22 -0700
KI7MT <ki7m...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Richard,
> 
> Yes, but that is a native ARMHF environment (Ubuntu Mate armv7 / Debian
> - Raspbian etc ). What Bill is after is a cross-compile-setup, say Linux
> amd64 base, then cross compile for armv7.
> 
> 73's
> Greg, KI7MT
>
Hi Greg
The disadvantage of cross compiling is you still need to test it
If you run a linux machine with QEMU running a ARMhf platform, you can write 
the code on the linux
machine and test it. then export the source code to the QEMU Virtual machine, 
compile and test.
Moreover, you can check that it will run within the constraints of the ARMhf 
typical SBC.
It has the advantage that it improves the code written.
When the first PCs came on the market , you had to be careful to make your 
coding efficient and
lite,
then came bloatware and that all went out thru the window, why do something in 
a few lines of
efficient code when you can visually do it taking ten times , often more, space.
Its all marketing, the bigger it is the more you can charge, it doesn't matter 
what the commodity
people equate size with value.
Take a straw poll on what people consider better value for the same price a 
piece of software 1.5
GB or one 200MB, they will think the the 1.5GB is better value as they are 
getting more bytes to
the buck.
Therefore, IHO, its better to use a QEMU VM on a linux host and know your code 
works, than to just
cross compile and hope it works.

Asbestos pants donned ready :)
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Raspberry Pi

[Richard Bown]

On Wed, 13 Jan 2016 22:23:48 +
Bill Somerville <g4...@classdesign.com> wrote:

> On 13/01/2016 22:10, Richard Bown wrote:
> > I'm not going to get in to argument over it Bill.
> > But if you want to open WSJTX up to everyone with a tablet cross compile 
> > and hope wont work.
> > The old argument that tablets cant be used due to audio drivers is extinct.
> Whoa! Where did tablets come from?
> 
> Qt has excellent support for Andriod and iOS but I would agree that we 
> would need to do some work to support gesture driven keyboard-less 
> systems like tablets and phones. You might want to contribute to such an 
> effort if you have teh relevant Qt experience but currently I'm not 
> aware of any need from users aside from off-hand comments from a few 
> that queried if WSJT-X could run on a tablet.
> 
> My requirement is on behalf of users that have little or no development 
> experience and want to use a SoC type boards like the 
Companies like Freescale and TI 
> PI2/BeagleBlack/fill in your preference of ARM based hardware in their 
> shacks or portable stations with a keyboard mouse and perhaps a USB 
> sound device. We have plenty of those and more would join since the cost 
> of entry is so small. They just need something to install and go. Greg 
> has enabled the armhf builds for Debian AFAIK and they may appear in the 
> repos in time but for now a DEB or RPM package is a convenient stepping 
> stone.
> 
> 73
> Bill
> G4WJS.
> 
> 

The production of the Rasp PI2 and all its clones are a direct result of the 
development of the
call phone and tablet.
|Without the mass production of the ARM processors and GPU/Mali used in cell 
phone tablets, set top
TV boxes, TV's ect, the growth of the use of PI clones would never have 
happened ,
Companies like TI and Freescale who are also producing processors have not yet 
managed to tap into
the hobby market with SBC as their devices are expensive compared to companies 
like Samsung.
Touch screens are already available for the PI2 clones
the latest tablets, quad core processors, are the same as the PI2 clones , the 
PI2 clones have
greater interface capability, but most tablets have one audio i/p, two audio 
o/p, USB and HDMI, plus
wifi and bluetooth.
Android uses the same kernel as linux, its only the file structure is different.
Linux can be run over the Android system, I've haven't tried it yet but I 
suspect with a little
playing WSJTX could be run on an Android tablet, and put a USB socket on a 
smartphone , and that
becomes open to use as well.
There is a lot happening and it would be shame to ignore it
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Raspberry Pi

[Richard Bown]

On Wed, 13 Jan 2016 23:03:06 -0200
"Edson W. R. Pereira" <ewpere...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think the wsjt-x will run well on a R-Pi 2, but I am not sure it will run
> on a R-Pi 1 Compiling wsjt-x may take some effort though. I have Steve's
> wspr stand alone decoder (C implementation) running on a R-Pi 1 and it
> works very well.
> 
> For JT65/JT9 and other QSO modes on small devices, I think there could be a
> separation of the JT DSP core from the user interface. The core could run
> on a R-Pi or other computer and the user interface could either run on the
> same computer or on a separate one. Communication could be done over TCP
> sockets. This could open a number of possibilities. User interfaces could
> be implemented for tablets, smart phones, etc. It could also open the
> possibility for remote operations.
> 
> 73, Edson PY2SDR
> 
> 
> 
Hi Edson
with one of the PI2 clones you can already use a serial connection to the USB 
port of a tablet
which gives display, keyboard & touch screen.
So using wsjtx portable is very possible, and back packable.
It puts a whole new aspect to microwave roaming in the US, SOTA and other 
portable activities.
With smart devices where do you draw the line between smart phone and tablet,
the only difference between a 5" smart phone and a 7" tablet is likely to be a 
USB and HDMI socket
This whole area is moving very fast, and it would a shame if the opportunity to 
make wsjtx with
fast modes available to all at low cost.
Especially when to do it would require very little extra to be done as ARMhf is 
well catered for
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> 
> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 9:15 PM, Richard Bown <rich...@g8jvm.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 13 Jan 2016 22:23:48 +
> > Bill Somerville <g4...@classdesign.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On 13/01/2016 22:10, Richard Bown wrote:
> > > > I'm not going to get in to argument over it Bill.
> > > > But if you want to open WSJTX up to everyone with a tablet cross
> > compile and hope wont work.
> > > > The old argument that tablets cant be used due to audio drivers is
> > extinct.
> > > Whoa! Where did tablets come from?
> > >
> > > Qt has excellent support for Andriod and iOS but I would agree that we
> > > would need to do some work to support gesture driven keyboard-less
> > > systems like tablets and phones. You might want to contribute to such an
> > > effort if you have teh relevant Qt experience but currently I'm not
> > > aware of any need from users aside from off-hand comments from a few
> > > that queried if WSJT-X could run on a tablet.
> > >
> > > My requirement is on behalf of users that have little or no development
> > > experience and want to use a SoC type boards like the
> > Companies like Freescale and TI
> > > PI2/BeagleBlack/fill in your preference of ARM based hardware in their
> > > shacks or portable stations with a keyboard mouse and perhaps a USB
> > > sound device. We have plenty of those and more would join since the cost
> > > of entry is so small. They just need something to install and go. Greg
> > > has enabled the armhf builds for Debian AFAIK and they may appear in the
> > > repos in time but for now a DEB or RPM package is a convenient stepping
> > > stone.
> > >
> > > 73
> > > Bill
> > > G4WJS.
> > >
> > > 
> >
> > The production of the Rasp PI2 and all its clones are a direct result of
> > the development of the
> > call phone and tablet.
> > |Without the mass production of the ARM processors and GPU/Mali used in
> > cell phone tablets, set top
> > TV boxes, TV's ect, the growth of the use of PI clones would never have
> > happened ,
> > Companies like TI and Freescale who are also producing processors have not
> > yet managed to tap into
> > the hobby market with SBC as their devices are expensive compared to
> > companies like Samsung.
> > Touch screens are already available for the PI2 clones
> > the latest tablets, quad core processors, are the same as the PI2 clones ,
> > the PI2 clones have
> > greater interface capability, but most tablets have one audio i/p, two
> > audio o/p, USB and HDMI, plus
> > wifi and bluetooth.
> > Android uses the same kernel as linux, its only the file structure is
> > different.
> > Linux can be run over the Android system, I've haven't tried it yet but I
> > suspect with a little
&g

Re: [wsjt-devel] Raspberry Pi

[Richard Bown]

On Wed, 13 Jan 2016 15:32:24 +
Bill Somerville <g4...@classdesign.com> wrote:

> On 13/01/2016 15:25, Paul wrote:
> > I am thinking of installing JTSDK with a view to building wsjtx and 
> > wspr on my Raspberry Pi 2.
> > Does anyone have any experience of this?
> Hi Paul,
> 
> several users have built WSJT-X for the Rasberry Pi2 successfully. AFAIK 
> they have all built on the target machine, Ubuntu based distributions 
> are probably the way to go as we know the required prerequisites are in 
> the repos.
> 
> I am keen to hear from anyone who has a working hosted build system for 
> cross compiling as this would seem to be a better way of supporting 
> builds for SoC type targets like the Pi2. I would like to have a VM here 
> set up for cross building for the Pi2 and other and other ARM CPU targets.
> 
> 73
> Bill
> G4WJS.

 Hi Bill you could try this:-
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Developer_guide/Virtual_ARM_Linux_environment

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Re: [wsjt-devel] Raspberry Pi

[Richard Bown]

On Wed, 13 Jan 2016 15:25:44 -
"Paul" <paul.codding...@btinternet.com> wrote:

> Hello
> 
> I am thinking of installing JTSDK with a view to building wsjtx and wspr on 
> my Raspberry Pi 2.
> Does anyone have any experience of this?
> 
> Regards
> Paul m1bkl

Yes it should be OK , wsjtx and wspr will build and run, so does Hamlib
but wsjt10 is too heavy on resources for a Rasp Pi2'
Runs OK on a Odroid XU4, sorta super rasp Pi2;
Should you need high speed modes, until they are added here you can use MSHV, 
PM me for the
MSHV_ARMHF.pro file to build it.

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Re: [wsjt-devel] Raspberry Pi

[Richard Bown]

On Wed, 13 Jan 2016 16:58:07 +
Bill Somerville <g4...@classdesign.com> wrote:

> On 13/01/2016 16:52, Richard Bown wrote:
> >   Hi Bill you could try this:-
> > https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Developer_guide/Virtual_ARM_Linux_environment
> Hi Richard,
> 
> I know how to build a cross tools environment but the devil is always in 
> the detail. I was hoping someone with a target board has built a 
> suitable cross build environment on, say an Intel Linux machine, and can 
> detail the necessary steps to get all the prerequisites built to 
> complete a WSJT-X cross build.
> 
> 73
> Bill
> G4WJS.
> 
At the moment Bill JTSDK builds as is on a ARMHF platform .
I'm happy to check on my system if something will build on a ARMHF platform.
I have a C1+ which is very very close to a Rasp pi2, both are ARMhf


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Re: [wsjt-devel] Raspberry Pi

[Richard Bown]

On Sun, 17 Jan 2016 11:44:27 +
Bill Somerville <g4...@classdesign.com> wrote:


> With respect to Hamlib, WSJT-X is build with Hamlib support, with HRD 
> support, with DX Lab Suite support, and on Windows with OmniRIg support. 
> You also have the option to select "None" for CAT control if you do not 
> have a rig with CAT capabilities. What is your problem specifically?
> 
At the moment if the select any of the versions of wsjtx from the menu it 
automatically builds
hamlib whether its needed or not, it would make far more sense to have the 
option no to include
hamlib if its not needed, also saves space
At the moment there are the three choices .
It would also stop the errors that autoconf is trying to fix in the hamlib 
build due to jtsdk
reporting armhf as arml.
As for complaining of missing packages and not doing anything, since being on 
the list for the past
10years , I've built on different distros and reported back build problems and 
and fixes I've
needed to do to get them to run.
I've moved the shack computer over to a ARMhf , Odroid XU4, as I'm fed up with 
the SATA problems
which I've now seen on several mobos and hard drives , where you power up and 
it reports no drive
attached,
Drag the damn thing up on to the bench and swap the HD on to another SATA 
socket and fine for the
next couple of months
Now ARM devices have reached the point where they are seriously useful . mainly 
thanks to the
market battle between Samsung and Apple. Enough for Gigabyte to produce their 
Brix range of tiny
computers.
Maybe I'm just a dinosaur, I see a good shack as real radios and loads of test 
equipment with
tools and a soldering iron, not a desk with a tiny commercial radio a computer 
and half a dozen
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Raspberry Pi

[Richard Bown]

On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 11:12:04 -0700
Greg Beam <ki7m...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Paul,
> 
> More than likely you've run out of system resources.
> 
> I would create a swap partition if you don't already have one (at least 
> 1GB to 2 GB) and you may want to edit /usr/bin/jtsdk-wsjtx to use only 
> one or two cores rather than all 4 cores.
> 
> 73's
> Greg, KI7MT
> 
> 
>
If you can't get it to build on the rasp Pi2 , which IMO it should, if someone 
tells me which files
after the build are essential to running wsjtx I make a built tarball available.
The only difference between the raspPI2 and the Odroid C1+ is the quad 
processor runs at 1.6 GHz
compared to 900 MHz for the R PI2, same RAM 1 GB.
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Raspberry Pi

[Richard Bown]

Not much point staying on a list like this :(



On Sun, 17 Jan 2016 08:27:48 -0700
Greg Beam <ki7m...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Richard,
> 
> On 1/17/2016 03:44, Richard Bown wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > We seem to have a literacy problem on this list which I'm getting very 
> > hacked off about
> 
> The OP question / problem was this:
> 
> http://sourceforge.net/p/wsjt/mailman/message/34771228/
> 
> I answered with this:
> 
> http://sourceforge.net/p/wsjt/mailman/message/34771931/
> 
> Not allot that can be misunderstood is there. If you doubt my 
> conclusions, test it yourself and post the results for discussion.
> 
> >
> > I realise that English is a language that sounds the same but since getting 
> > Websterised
> > on the American continental mass no longer translates to the same meaning.
> > But if the original post was properly read I was offering help to Paul, not 
> > trying encroach on
> > the PPA kingdoms..
> 
> Again, if you have an PRI2, test the solution I posted above. My 
> comments about PPA's was in response to redistribution binaries, nothing 
> more. If you want to make your own PPA, there is nothing stopping you, 
> go for it.
> 
> > And while having a moan, how about the option on wsjtx without hamlib, 
> > there are still a few
> > hams that know which end of the soldering iron gets hot and build our own 
> > transceivers, and
> > dont wish to make them remote controlled
> 
> This has nothing to do with the OP's problem / question, however, I 
> believe Bill has answered with:
> 
> http://sourceforge.net/p/wsjt/mailman/message/34773034/
> 
> > But your answer does explain why for so long the only prebuilt wsjt package 
> > available to linux
> > users has been 5.9, one rule for linux and another for windows
> >
> 
> Where was this question asked and what does the WSJT package version in 
> Debian / Ubuntu have to do with the OP's problem / question? Answer --> 
> Nothing ( another literacy problem maybe ). Debian makes their own rules 
> for packaging, it's called the Debian Policy Manual ( 
> https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ ). If you don't like their 
> policies, by all means, take that up with them. I seriously doubt anyone 
> in the WJST dev group has the time or inclination to take on such a 
> fight, but stranger things have happened.
> 
> 
> 73's
> Greg, KI7MT
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Re: [wsjt-devel] JTSDK-NIX 2.0.19

[Richard Bown]

Peter
try setting "autorun" in the options menu
I just built and ran wsjt10 with the autorun check
from the jtsdk menu
and it built and ran no problems with call.txt
also changed the call sign and forced a look up... no problem
Running mint 17.3 64 bit


On Mon, 8 Feb 2016 17:45:51 +0100
Peter Frenning [OZ1PIF] <pe...@frenning.dk> wrote:

> Den 08-02-2016 kl. 17:12 skrev KI7MT:
> Hi Peter,
> 
> Do you have autosvn enabled?
> 
> I just built WSJT 6470 and the CALL3.TXT file is being copied to the run
> directory.
> 
> Check to ensure CALL3.TXT is located in:
> 
> 1). If separate is enabled
> ~/jtsdk/wsjt/10.0/6470/install
> 
> 2). If separate is *not* enabled
> ~/jtsdk/wsjt/10.0/install
> 
> 
> You could also remove ~/jtsdk/src/trunk and that would pull a new
> checkout from Sourceforge.
> 
> 
> 73's
> Greg, KI7MT
> 
> Even if I place myself in the "install" folder and start wsjt from there, it 
> fails:
> 
> Output from terminal:
> pif@Quad-Mint ~/jtsdk/wsjt/install $ ./wsjt.sh
> **
> WSJT Version 10.0 r4336 , by K1JT
> Revision date: 2014-09-18 17:51:42 +0200 (tor, 18 sep 2014)
> Run date:   Mon Feb  8 16:41:08 2016 UTC
> Error when searching CALL3.TXT, or no such file present
> Error when searching CALL3.TXT, or no such file present
> 
> Audio Input    Output Device Name
> Device  Channels  Channels
> --
>    0    2 8   HDA Intel: ALC887 Analog (hw:0,0)
>    1    0 2   HDA Intel: ALC887 Digital (hw:0,1)
>    2    2 0   HDA Intel: ALC887 Alt Analog (hw:0,2)
>    3    0 8   HDA NVidia: HDMI 0 (hw:1,3)
>    4    0 8   HDA NVidia: HDMI 1 (hw:1,7)
>    5    1 0   Microsoft LifeCam VX-5000: USB Audio (hw:2,0)
>    6   128    128   sysdefault
>    7    0 8   front
>    8    0 8   surround40
>    9    0    128   surround41
>   10    0    128   surround50
>   11    0 8   surround51
>   12    0 8   surround71
>   13    0 2   iec958
>   14    0 2   spdif
>   15   32    32   pulse
>   16    0 2   dmix
>   17   32    32   default
> 
> User requested devices:   Input = 18   Output = 18
> Default devices:  Input = 17   Output = 17
> Will open devices:    Input = 17   Output = 17
> Audio streams running normally.
> **
> 
> (this from the older version)
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Gravitational Waves

[Richard Bown]

I fully Agree with Dave AA6YQ, that was uncalled for and very inaccurate and 
vindictive

On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 01:19:53 -0500
" Dave AA6YQ" <aa...@ambersoft.com> wrote:

> >>>AA6YQ comments below
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Chase Turner [mailto:ke4...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 10:31 PM
> To: WSJT software development
> Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Gravitational Waves
> 
> You are a little late to this party, as usual. A lot of the discussion about 
> this phenomena,
> which doesn't have anything to do with WSJT (other than your ego that this is 
> in fact your
> mailing list) has been happening all over so many mailing lists that your 
> response is cluttering,
> off topic and a bit of braggadocio, even for you (who had nothing to do with 
> the confirmation of
> an earlier theory). The most fruitful discussions can be found, in the 
> mailing list world that
> many here might be interested in, located on the Time Nut's list. There may 
> be other lists that
> cross boundaries that many here would find interesting, too. 
> 
> Next time, please confine your responses to those who asked you what you 
> thought, because I know
> this list doesn't need a lot of off topic mail- your own rule, I think. But 
> maybe you've changed
> it in midstream, like you do so many other things.
> 
> And while I'm wondering, since Steve did most of the work on the decoder 
> recently- it will be his
> name first in the QEX article, right? Or do you actually believe you should 
> be listed as the lead
> author for the article- even though you did nothing more than error checking? 
> 
> >>>What a nasty, mean-spirited post. If your objective was sincerely behavior 
> >>>change, it's hard
> >>>to imagine a more incompetent attempt at achieving it.
> 
>   Dave, AA6YQ
> 
> 
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> 
> 
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[wsjt-devel] wsjtx 1.5 & 1.6 no longer build on armhf

[Richard Bown]

Hi
WSJTX 1.5 & 1.6 no longer building on a ARMHF  32 bit plaform:-

/usr/include/arm-linux-gnueabihf/qt5/QtGui/qopenglfunctions.h: In member 
function 'void QOpenGLFunctions::glVertexAttrib4fv(GLuint, const GLfloat*)':
/usr/include/arm-linux-gnueabihf/qt5/QtGui/qopenglfunctions.h:2126:5: error: 
'::glVertexAttrib4fv' has not been declared
 ::glVertexAttrib4fv(indx, values);
 ^
/usr/include/arm-linux-gnueabihf/qt5/QtGui/qopenglfunctions.h: In member 
function 'void QOpenGLFunctions::glVertexAttribPointer(GLuint, GLint, GLenum, 
GLboolean, GLsizei, const void*)':
/usr/include/arm-linux-gnueabihf/qt5/QtGui/qopenglfunctions.h:2137:5: error: 
'::glVertexAttribPointer' has not been declared
 ::glVertexAttribPointer(indx, size, type, normalized, stride, ptr);
 ^
Building CXX object CMakeFiles/wsjtx.dir/decodedtext.cpp.o
CMakeFiles/wsjtx.dir/build.make:255: recipe for target 
'CMakeFiles/wsjtx.dir/Modulator.cpp.o' failed
make[2]: *** [CMakeFiles/wsjtx.dir/Modulator.cpp.o] Error 1
make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
CMakeFiles/wsjtx.dir/build.make:303: recipe for target 
'CMakeFiles/wsjtx.dir/logqso.cpp.o' failed
make[2]: *** [CMakeFiles/wsjtx.dir/logqso.cpp.o] Error 1
CMakeFiles/Makefile2:936: recipe for target 'CMakeFiles/wsjtx.dir/all' failed
make[1]: *** [CMakeFiles/wsjtx.dir/all] Error 2
Makefile:136: recipe for target 'all' failed
make: *** [all] Error 2
OS Ubuntu 15.03 
anything obvious ?
Hamlib builds OK

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Re: [wsjt-devel] wsjtx 1.5 & 1.6 no longer build on armhf

[Richard Bown]

Reply at end


On Thu, 7 Apr 2016 20:33:41 +0100
Bill Somerville <g4...@classdesign.com> wrote:

> On 07/04/2016 20:08, Richard Bown wrote:
> > Hi
> > WSJTX 1.5 & 1.6 no longer building on a ARMHF  32 bit plaform:-
> >
> > /usr/include/arm-linux-gnueabihf/qt5/QtGui/qopenglfunctions.h: In member 
> > function 'void
> > QOpenGLFunctions::glVertexAttrib4fv(GLuint, const
> > GLfloat*)': 
> > /usr/include/arm-linux-gnueabihf/qt5/QtGui/qopenglfunctions.h:2126:5: error:
> > '::glVertexAttrib4fv' has not been declared ::glVertexAttrib4fv(indx, 
> > values); ^
> > /usr/include/arm-linux-gnueabihf/qt5/QtGui/qopenglfunctions.h: In member 
> > function 'void
> > QOpenGLFunctions::glVertexAttribPointer(GLuint, GLint, GLenum, GLboolean, 
> > GLsizei, const
> > void*)': 
> > /usr/include/arm-linux-gnueabihf/qt5/QtGui/qopenglfunctions.h:2137:5: error:
> > '::glVertexAttribPointer' has not been declared 
> > ::glVertexAttribPointer(indx, size, type,
> > normalized, stride, ptr); ^ Building CXX object 
> > CMakeFiles/wsjtx.dir/decodedtext.cpp.o
> > CMakeFiles/wsjtx.dir/build.make:255: recipe for target 
> > 'CMakeFiles/wsjtx.dir/Modulator.cpp.o'
> > failed make[2]: *** [CMakeFiles/wsjtx.dir/Modulator.cpp.o] Error 1
> > make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
> > CMakeFiles/wsjtx.dir/build.make:303: recipe for target 
> > 'CMakeFiles/wsjtx.dir/logqso.cpp.o'
> > failed make[2]: *** [CMakeFiles/wsjtx.dir/logqso.cpp.o] Error 1
> > CMakeFiles/Makefile2:936: recipe for target 'CMakeFiles/wsjtx.dir/all' 
> > failed
> > make[1]: *** [CMakeFiles/wsjtx.dir/all] Error 2
> > Makefile:136: recipe for target 'all' failed
> > make: *** [all] Error 2
> > OS Ubuntu 15.03
> > anything obvious ?
> > Hamlib builds OK
> >
> Hi Richard,
> 
> it's not a WSJT-X issue. Seems that something is broken between Qt and 
> OpenGL. Looks like there are in-lined calls to OpenGL functions in the 
> Qt header files which is causing errors because the version of the 
> OpenGL development libraries is out of sync with the Qt headers. If both 
> Qt5 and OpenGL are coming out of the standard repositories then the 
> issue needs reporting to the o/s packagers i.e. Ubintu or Debian.
> 
> 73
> Bill
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Thanks Bill
Thats going to be a real PITA.
I'll see what I can do, but I can forecast total disinterest from them.


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Re: [wsjt-devel] waterfall display in wsjtx

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On Mon, 23 May 2016 22:26:34 +0100
Bill Somerville <g4...@classdesign.com> wrote:

> On 23/05/2016 22:02, Richard Bown wrote:
> > is there any way of increasing the speed of the waterfall display.
> 
> Hi Richard,
> 
> the basic FFT unit (time interval) is not user adjustable but you do 
> have some control of the waterfall vertical resolution. The "N Avg" spin 
> box at the bottom of the waterfall determines how many FFT periods are 
> averaged to make a waterfall vertical time slice. Decrease the number to 
> increase the waterfall rate.
> 
> 73
> Bill
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> 
>
Hi Bill
I've already taken that as low as possible, just wondered if anything hackable ?


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[wsjt-devel] waterfall display in wsjtx

[Richard Bown]

Hi
this may sound very strange , but is there any way of increasing the speed of 
the waterfall display.
Very useful for watching UHF/microwave beacons where there is a very short 
reflection off an
aircraft or similar.
Not asking for an additional feature, just if anything modifiable 
Thanks

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Re: [wsjt-devel] waterfall display in wsjtx

[Richard Bown]

Thanks for the info Rex

Yes Bill I'm very aware its not the purpose of wsjtx, but like most things , if 
it nearly does the
job its always worth investigating whether it can be tweaked to do the job you 
want. rather than
reinvent the wheel, start with something thats nearly wheel shaped. :)


On Mon, 23 May 2016 23:01:16 +0100
Bill Somerville <g4...@classdesign.com> wrote:

> On 23/05/2016 22:45, Richard Bown wrote:
> > I've already taken that as low as possible, just wondered if anything 
> > hackable ?
> 
> Hi Richard,
> 
> that would require reducing the size of the basic FFT used to measure 
> the audio input for power and spectrum display. It is a fairly 
> fundamental unit of the front end signal processing, it would require 
> quite a lot of code changes to change that unit for the slow modes. I 
> assume you are trying to detect the presence of signals rather than 
> decoding them, that is not really the purpose of WSJT-X. The waterfall 
> is tailored for the modes being used.
> 
> 73
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Re: [wsjt-devel] feature addition ????

[Richard Bown]

Hi Bill
from personal experience using JT4 on 3cms I have taken out the Rx GaAs Fet 
first stage a  couple
of times where it has hot switched, just 5W. I had additional hardware to 
sequence.
With low power at lower freqs not so much a problem as power leakage in to the 
receiver is unlikely
to cause damage.
But VHF+ when used for MS etc, where power is used hot switching is a problem. 
RF arcs on relays
will eventually destroy contacts, ALC , high VSWR protection help ,but the 
fastest fuse has three
legs :)
Once the fast modes are added to WSJTX it may get noticed

Thanks


On Mon, 16 May 2016 23:06:12 +0100
Bill Somerville <g4...@classdesign.com> wrote:

> On 16/05/2016 22:50, Richard Bown wrote:
> > Its putting a tone on the unused audio channel when in Tx
> > So if data was on the Right channel, put an audio tone, doesn't matter what 
> > frequency,
> > on the left channel (TX Mode only ).
> > Has the advantage on simple rigs that you can rectify it, diode and a cap, 
> > and then use the
> > recovered DC to switch the PTT, and if the tone is sent before the data , 
> > everything is already
> > in TX mode so no hot switching.
> 
> Hi Richard,
> 
> understood, I had not come across such a feature before but I can see 
> that it makes sense for a lightweight PTT method with some advantages 
> over VOX. I expect the benefit is marginal given that switching PTT with 
> audio present is not really "hot switching" as almost all rigs that I 
> know of (some Icoms with ALC design issues being a notable exception) 
> have no issues switching to send when there is Tx audio present at the 
> modulator.
> 
> I need to think about this a bit as to implement it cuts across the 
> audio and rig control components which both run in their own thread. The 
> implementation would have to be carefully designed to maintain thread 
> safe operation within WSJT-X. It is certainly doable but I would be a 
> little concerned that the extra benefit would justify the extra 
> complexity. It is a shame that modern PCs no longer have parallel ports 
> as a parallel port can easily be used as a GPIO port for this sort of 
> requirement and this is already supported by Hamlib.
> 
> 73
> Bill
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> 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] feature addition ????

[Richard Bown]

Hi Bill

Sure
Its putting a tone on the unused audio channel when in Tx
So if data was on the Right channel, put an audio tone, doesn't matter what 
frequency,
on the left channel (TX Mode only ).
Has the advantage on simple rigs that you can rectify it, diode and a cap, and 
then use the
recovered DC to switch the PTT, and if the tone is sent before the data , 
everything is already in
TX mode so no hot switching.
Has the advantage of saving using a USB/RS232 to switch the PTT line with DTR 
etc. and keeps it
very simply to use

Hope that makes sense Bill.


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Bill Somerville <g4...@classdesign.com> wrote:

> On 15/05/2016 22:12, Richard Bown wrote:
> > how difficult would it to add a tone PTT
> 
> Hi Richard,
> 
> can you explain that feature please?
> 
> 73
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> 
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[wsjt-devel] feature addition ????

[Richard Bown]

Hi
For the homebrewers who don't use CAT to control their rigs and using minimal 
computers
that don't have spare USB or RS232 ports, how difficult would it to add a tone 
PTT, similar to 
that available on FLDGI.
Most sound cards are two channel I/O
, and only one channel is used for data .
VOX is messy as you can end up hot switching RF, and it would avoid having to 
use a USB/RS232
converter for PTT.

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Re: [wsjt-devel] wsjtx lock file location

[Richard Bown]

Hi Bill
Actually in /tmp  :) 
But as well as the lockfile, I also found /tmp/WSJTX
and lurking in that directory is a file wsjtx_status.txt
which I can check for its existence, its only there when WSJTX is running
which means the lockfile is untouched.
Thanks


On Fri, 15 Apr 2016 16:50:05 +0100
Bill Somerville <g4...@classdesign.com> wrote:

> On 15/04/2016 16:25, Richard Bown wrote:
> > where is the lock file stored when wsjtx is running ?
> > I'd like to change the screen resolution when running wsjtx and looking for
> > a file to test, as an alternative to greping from the process ID.
> > I could start wsjtx from a shell script and change the screen res there, 
> > but I still need to
> > test when it shuts down.
> Hi Ricard,
> 
> the lock file is in $TMP. You must be careful not to lock the file 
> yourself if you are going to scan for it.
> 
> Anther, and much better, option is to use the UDP broadcasts that WSJT-X 
> can send, you need to write a trivial UDP server to receive them and for 
> what you want you can simply look for a couple of different messages. 
> Messages are documented in NetworkMessage.hpp and a sample UDP server 
> daemon is built by WSJT-X. The example server is called UDPDaemon.cpp 
> and the executable is udp_daemon.
> 
> The MessageServer class that UDPDaemon uses already provides two signals 
> for client (WSJT-X is the client here) opened and client closed so you 
> just need to hook onto those with your stuff.
> 
> 73
> Bill
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[wsjt-devel] wsjtx lock file location

[Richard Bown]

Hi
where is the lock file stored when wsjtx is running ?
I'd like to change the screen resolution when running wsjtx and looking for
a file to test, as an alternative to greping from the process ID.
I could start wsjtx from a shell script and change the screen res there, but I 
still need to test
when it shuts down.

Or has some nice person left a point in the start up / shutdown sequence where 
a custom command
could be inserted  ?
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Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJTX on ARMHF SBC ,

[Richard Bown]

Hi Bill very simple reason,
odroids use the Mali GPU and hence Opengl ES, its been passed back to 
Hardkernel, as the 
OpenGL ES compatibility issues are theirs & ubuntu's, and absolutely no 
interest, mail read but not
even acknowledged.
So no interest, probably too busy tied up with the Ubuntu 64 bit mess with the 
C2 :(





On Thu, 14 Apr 2016 19:54:07 +0100
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> On 14/04/2016 18:49, Richard Bown wrote:
> > I suspect that with QT5 and OpenGL ES out of sync that this is the end of 
> > use of Odroid SBCs
> > with WSJTX
> Hi Richard,
> 
> I do not see how you come to that conclusion. From your previous message 
> I gather that there is an issue on armhf Ubuntu with compilation of some 
> of the Qt headers but I would expect the package builders will sort that 
> out fairly quickly once they are informed of the problem.
> 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJTX on ARMHF SBC ,

[Richard Bown]

Hi
I've done a apt-get purge qt5*
then reinstalled qt5-default, 5.4.2,
running jtsdk now fails very early

-- hamlib_STATIC_LIBRARIES: /home/odroid/jtsdk/hamlib3/lib/libhamlib.a;m
CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:743 (find_package):
  By not providing "FindQt5Multimedia.cmake" in CMAKE_MODULE_PATH this
  project has asked CMake to find a package configuration file provided by
  "Qt5Multimedia", but CMake did not find one.

  Could not find a package configuration file provided by "Qt5Multimedia"
  (requested version 5) with any of the following names:

Qt5MultimediaConfig.cmake
qt5multimedia-config.cmake

  Add the installation prefix of "Qt5Multimedia" to CMAKE_PREFIX_PATH or set
  "Qt5Multimedia_DIR" to a directory containing one of the above files.  If
  "Qt5Multimedia" provides a separate development package or SDK, be sure it
  has been installed.


-- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred!
That shouldn't happen when loaded with apt :(

Strange libqt5multimedia is installed

libqt5multimedia5 is already the newest version.
libqt5multimedia5-plugins is already the newest version.
libqt5multimediaquick-p5 is already the newest version.
libqt5multimediawidgets5 is already the newest version.
Looks like I'm going to have to reflash the SD card, which will lose apps I've 
built
PITA !
WSJTx did build and install before system updating and failed to build 
afterwards








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Bill Somerville <g4...@classdesign.com> wrote:

> On 14/04/2016 20:13, Richard Bown wrote:
> > very simple reason,
> > odroids use the Mali GPU and hence Opengl ES, its been passed back to 
> > Hardkernel, as the
> > OpenGL ES compatibility issues are theirs & ubuntu's
> Hi Richard,
> 
> do you know if the problem is missing functions in the OpenGL headers or 
> is it Qt not detecting the OpenGL features and trying to use something 
> that is not provided. I ask because if it is the latter then the Qt team 
> may have already fixed it and you might be able to get a patch. Building 
> Qt from source is a bit of a long task but there are plenty of 
> instructions out there.
> 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJTX on ARMHF SBC ,

[Richard Bown]

wspr and hamlib build with jtsdk, wsjtx no longer builds.
I dont have any interest in wspr, but I do use JT4
The only pre built binary is 1.1 , very old .
As for ubuntu 16.04 , dont hold your breath, its a disaster on the 64 bit C2.
I cant see any of the Odroid s/w moving to Ubuntu 16 until they see it working 
stably on the 64
bit C2 SBC, prob 6 months at least  :(
Tnx


On Thu, 14 Apr 2016 12:28:42 -0600
KI7MT <ki7m...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Richard,
> 
> I've not built WSJT-X on my RPI2 for a few weeks, so I'm nut sure about
> r6370, but the many of the folks on WSPRNet use these small SBC devices
> for WSPR. It may be worth posting there for further assistance.
> 
> Link: http://wsprnet.org
> 
> As a side note, Ubuntu 16.04 is approaching, maybe these QT5 / OpenGL ES
> issues will be resolved then.
> 
> 
> 73's
> Greg, KI7MT
> 
> 
> On 04/14/2016 11:49 AM, Richard Bown wrote:
> > Hi
> > Is anyone using either a Odroid C1,C2 or XU4 running WSJTX built since V6370
> > on any other distribution apart from Ubuntu 15.03  ???
> > It no longer builds on Ubuntu 15 , has anyone had any success with Fedora, 
> > Arch , Debian
> > ect. ???
> > I suspect that with QT5 and OpenGL ES out of sync that this is the end of 
> > use of Odroid SBCs
> > with WSJTX, a great shame , it looks like those who like huge computers 
> > with half a dozen
> > monitors have won :(
> > 
> 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJTX on ARMHF SBC ,

[Richard Bown]

OK Bill, noted
but if you are running the jtsdk scripts, gui, there is no, well if there is I 
didn't see it,
anyway to do a make clean.
If I'm manually building something I always do a make clean , but with jtsdk 
once the selection is
made it just runs through until finished or falls over during the build.
As especially ubuntu regularly runs apt-get update from cron or anacron, the 
chances of some part
of the environment changing are high, debian is just the opposite its more 
stable with less
backports.
So wouldn't it make sense to put in the automated build scripts a make clean 
before configure ???
or at least before make.

Tnx



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> On 14/04/2016 23:30, Richard Bown wrote:
> > What does jtsdk look for when there is already an earlier version of wsjtx 
> > built ?
> > maybe something which will give more problems in the future Greg.
> Hi Richard,
> 
> The underlying CMake build script is designed to detect source file 
> changes and rebuild just what needs rebuilding to bring the build 
> artefacts up to date. Like most (all?) build systems, it will not cope 
> with changes to the tool chain or external libraries. In that case it is 
> always wise to at least do a make clean (or pass --clean-first to cmake 
> --build) after such major changes to the environment, reconfiguring is 
> also wise so that tool chain detection can be redone. In general this is 
> not something that can be reliably  detected by a build script or any 
> script that wraps it, it is just one of those things that developer need 
> to be aware of.
> 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJTX on ARMHF SBC ,

[Richard Bown]

Hi Greg
I've just nuked /jtsdk/wsjtx/*
and built wsjtx, without errors about fortran/ccx errors 
or the multiple errors like :-
/usr/include/arm-linux-gnueabihf/qt5/QtGui/qopenglfunctions.h: In member 
function 'void QOpenGLFunctions::glVertexAttrib4fv(GLuint, const GLfloat*)':
/usr/include/arm-linux-gnueabihf/qt5/QtGui/qopenglfunctions.h:2126:5: error: 
'::glVertexAttrib4fv' has not been declared
 ::glVertexAttrib4fv(indx, values);

I suspect there was something in /jtsdk/wsjtx/gar , and probably coincidental 
on a build failure
after running an apt-get update.
I assumed QT5 Opengl from the replay Bill gave:-

"It's not a WSJT-X issue. Seems that something is broken between Qt and 
OpenGL. Looks like there are in-lined calls to OpenGL functions in the 
Qt header files which is causing errors because the version of the 
OpenGL development libraries is out of sync with the Qt headers. If both 
Qt5 and OpenGL are coming out of the standard repositories then the 
issue needs reporting to the o/s packagers i.e. Ubintu or Debian."

What does jtsdk look for when there is already an earlier version of wsjtx 
built ?
maybe something which will give more problems in the future Greg.




On Thu, 14 Apr 2016 16:03:26 -0600
KI7MT <ki...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi Richard,
> 
> See below.
> 
> On 04/14/2016 03:53 PM, Richard Bown wrote:
> > OK Greg
> > qtmultmedia5-dev back in , its now deciding to fail:_
> > Verifying Fortran/CXX Compiler Compatibility failed with the following 
> > output:
> 
> Bill may have to assist on this one, as I am not sure sure how CMake
> checks compiler compatibility.
> 
> The JTSDK build build script is calling cmake directly as if it were
> entered on the command line, so I can say, there are no compiler
> statements made other than what Cmake and the CMakeLists.txt file stipulate.
> 
> Just to be sure, do you have clang-5.x installed as well ? May not have
> anything to do with the problem, but just in case, and again, Bill is
> the right person to ask here.
> 
> > 
> > thats new today :(
> > pity it does give any output in the log file 
> > gfortran 5 is loaded as well as gfortran4
> > qt5-qmake is the only qmake installed
> 
> I've not used Qmake a very long time. I think Bill keeps the pro file up
> to date, but he would have to answer that one also.
> 
> You should be able to check the CMakeLists.cache file to determine what
> fortran compiler is being used.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 73's
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Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJTX on ARMHF SBC ,

[Richard Bown]

OK Greg
qtmultmedia5-dev back in , its now deciding to fail:_
Verifying Fortran/CXX Compiler Compatibility failed with the following output:

thats new today :(
pity it does give any output in the log file 
gfortran 5 is loaded as well as gfortran4
qt5-qmake is the only qmake installed


On Thu, 14 Apr 2016 15:10:53 -0600
KI7MT <ki7m...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Richard
> 
> Bill will be able to answer better than I, but the lib(s) you listed
> below look to be runtime libs. Purging qt5* more that likely nuked the
> dev libs, which may be why the build fails early now.
> 
> >From my Debian JTSDK Control file, the following are the build deps:
> 
> libqt5opengl5-dev
> libqt5serialport5-dev
> libqt5multimedia5-plugins
> qtmultimedia5-dev
> 
> On the server, that pull all the required deps. or at least, it used to.
> 
> These runtime libs are:
> libqt5opengl5-dev
> libqt5serialport5-dev
> libqt5multimedia5-plugins
> qtmultimedia5-dev
> 
> I've not be able to nail down why libqt5opengl5-dev
> libqt5serialport5-dev are needed for runtime, it may be a QT packaging
> thing, but I'm not sure.
> 
> I've not updated the control file to allow for the new libusb-1.0-dev
> situation yet.
> 
> 73's
> Greg, KI7MT
> 
> 
> On 04/14/2016 02:37 PM, Richard Bown wrote:
> > Hi
> > I've done a apt-get purge qt5*
> > then reinstalled qt5-default, 5.4.2,
> > running jtsdk now fails very early
> > 
> > -- hamlib_STATIC_LIBRARIES: /home/odroid/jtsdk/hamlib3/lib/libhamlib.a;m
> > CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:743 (find_package):
> >   By not providing "FindQt5Multimedia.cmake" in CMAKE_MODULE_PATH this
> >   project has asked CMake to find a package configuration file provided by
> >   "Qt5Multimedia", but CMake did not find one.
> > 
> >   Could not find a package configuration file provided by "Qt5Multimedia"
> >   (requested version 5) with any of the following names:
> > 
> > Qt5MultimediaConfig.cmake
> > qt5multimedia-config.cmake
> > 
> >   Add the installation prefix of "Qt5Multimedia" to CMAKE_PREFIX_PATH or set
> >   "Qt5Multimedia_DIR" to a directory containing one of the above files.  If
> >   "Qt5Multimedia" provides a separate development package or SDK, be sure it
> >   has been installed.
> > 
> > 
> > -- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred!
> > That shouldn't happen when loaded with apt :(
> > 
> > Strange libqt5multimedia is installed
> > 
> > libqt5multimedia5 is already the newest version.
> > libqt5multimedia5-plugins is already the newest version.
> > libqt5multimediaquick-p5 is already the newest version.
> > libqt5multimediawidgets5 is already the newest version.
> > Looks like I'm going to have to reflash the SD card, which will lose apps 
> > I've built
> > PITA !
> > WSJTx did build and install before system updating and failed to build 
> > afterwards
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, 14 Apr 2016 20:19:16 +0100
> > Bill Somerville <g4...@classdesign.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> On 14/04/2016 20:13, Richard Bown wrote:
> >>> very simple reason,
> >>> odroids use the Mali GPU and hence Opengl ES, its been passed back to 
> >>> Hardkernel, as the
> >>> OpenGL ES compatibility issues are theirs & ubuntu's
> >> Hi Richard,
> >>
> >> do you know if the problem is missing functions in the OpenGL headers or 
> >> is it Qt not detecting the OpenGL features and trying to use something 
> >> that is not provided. I ask because if it is the latter then the Qt team 
> >> may have already fixed it and you might be able to get a patch. Building 
> >> Qt from source is a bit of a long task but there are plenty of 
> >> instructions out there.
> >>
> >> 73
> >> Bill
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Re: [wsjt-devel] wsjtx lock file location

[Richard Bown]

On Fri, 15 Apr 2016 17:43:18 +0100
Bill Somerville <g4...@classdesign.com> wrote:

> On 15/04/2016 17:25, Richard Bown wrote:
> > Actually in /tmp:)  
> Oops, sorry about that. %TMP% on Windows and $TMPDIR on Mac.
> > But as well as the lockfile, I also found /tmp/WSJTX
> > and lurking in that directory is a file wsjtx_status.txt
> > which I can check for its existence, its only there when WSJTX is running
> > which means the lockfile is untouched.
> Please do not use wsjtx_status.txt, this is deprecated because 
> applications interfere with WSJT-X running by locking it or the 
> directory it is in. It is very hard to scan for the presence of a file 
> without locking the directory that contains it.
> 
> The UDP messages are the way to go, you already have a very short 
> example program that does 99% of what you need, in fact for your 
> application nearly half of that example program is not needed!
> 
> 73
> Bill
> G4WJS.
> 
> 
OK Bill, I'll attempt the udp route
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Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJTX on ARMHF SBC ,

[Richard Bown]

Our postings crossed
All builds made were using JTSDK, much easier than manually building.
When getting the failed build first of all I tried several different versions , 
1.5.0,
1.6.0rc2, and exp versions all with the same build failure right at the end of 
the build.
Each time a new build was tried new sub directories were created by JTSDK, so 
there shouldn't have
been anything from previous builds.
The original build would also not recompile, failing with the same ? header 
problems. Note: a make
clean was not run on the original version as that would have destroyed the 
compiled binaries.
It wasn't until after deleting all of the wsjtx directories I got a clean build.
I've used JTSDK on 3 different computers and it didnt seem to matter if an 
earlier version of wsjtx
was in existence, and as such never bothered to read the release notes with it.
To be honest who reads release notes when something works ?

I still suspect something in gar/ was causing the problem, but that wont be 
verified until someone
else hits the same problem, At least now its known how to get around it. 

And I've got a working version of wsjtx :)
I'll notify the QT5 /openGL developers that it was NOT a problem of their 
making.
Thanks


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KI7MT <ki7m...@gmail.com> wrote:

> All,
> 
> To be clear on Bill's point(s) below -- there are no automated build
> scripts (at least that I am aware of) in the WSJT-X repository; that is
> why I created JTSDK in the first place.
> 
> I believe, though I'd have to verify it, in JTSDK v2.0.19 and above,
> clean, rcfg and separate *are disabled* by default, which should perform
> in the manner which Bill states below.
> 
> For developers, it's makes little since to clean and reconfigure the
> build tree each iteration. The options are there for those using JTSDK
> to *enable / disable* at will. Understanding their usage is the onus of
> the user.
> 
> If the release notes are not clear, or the system man pages / help
> screens are not sufficient, let me know and I'll try to amend them to be
> more user friendly.
> 
> 
> 73's
> Greg, KI7MT
> 
> 
> On 04/14/2016 05:10 PM, Bill Somerville wrote:
> > On 15/04/2016 00:00, Richard Bown wrote:
> >> So wouldn't it make sense to put in the automated build scripts a make 
> >> clean before
> >> configure ??? or at least before make.
> > Hi Richard,
> > 
> > the whole point of build tools like make and tools like CMake that can 
> > generate Makefiles is to do minimal rebuilds to save time. Having to 
> > wait for a clean build or scrapping the whole configured build tree 
> > every time you want to rebuild is totally defeating the object of smart 
> > build tools.
> > 
> > 73
> > Bill
> > G4WJS.
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[wsjt-devel] WSJTX on ARMHF SBC ,

[Richard Bown]

Hi
Is anyone using either a Odroid C1,C2 or XU4 running WSJTX built since V6370
on any other distribution apart from Ubuntu 15.03  ???
It no longer builds on Ubuntu 15 , has anyone had any success with Fedora, Arch 
, Debian
ect. ???
I suspect that with QT5 and OpenGL ES out of sync that this is the end of use 
of Odroid SBCs
with WSJTX, a great shame , it looks like those who like huge computers with 
half a dozen monitors
have won :(

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Re: [wsjt-devel] QRA64 2m transatlantic contact

[Richard Bown]

ied item 
> #1 in the above list.  Now, you need to persist and exchange some 
> previously *unknown* information, such as a signal report, followed by 
> an acknowledgment -- and then you will have made a truly record-breaking 
> QSO!
> 
> In passing, I should also caution you and others not to take the dB 
> signal reports produced by our existing code too seriously.  At the low 
> end of the S/N range for marginal signals, say below -28 dB for QRA64, 
> the uncertainty of S/N estimates gets very large.
> 
>   -- 73, Joe, K1JT
> 
>  Forwarded Message 
> Subject: Re: [wsjtgroup] thanks to the software team
> Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2016 10:50:11 -0400
> From: Joe Taylor j...@princeton.edu [wsjtgroup] 
> <wsjtgroup-nore...@yahoogroups.com>
> Reply-To: Joe Taylor <j...@princeton.edu>
> To: WSJT Group <wsjtgr...@yahoogroups.com>
> 
> Hi Andy and all,
> 
> G4JNT wrote:
>  > I'm puzzled by the quoted -36 and -37dB S/N reports.  These seem way
>  > too low even for QRA-64 mode.  
> 
> Perhaps this is a good time to remind everyone that estimates of 
> signal-to-noise ratios for very weak signals *always* have an associated 
> (if unexpressed) uncertainty.  When S/N is quoted in dB, this can have 
> important consequences.
> 
> In a stochastic (noise-like) process, experimentally measured values 
> will be scattered around the unknown "true" value; some will be pretty 
> accurate, some too high, and some too low.
> 
> Suppose a signal's true S/N (in the detection bandwidth) is equal to 
> 1.0.  In a series of measurements of that signal, some of the estimated 
> ("measured") values will be close to 1; some will be higher, maybe as 
> high as 2 (or even more), and some will be as low as 0 (or even less). 
> These are *linear* values of S/N: estimated ratios of signal power to 
> noise power.
> 
> When the S/N is expressed in dB -- a logarithmic scale -- you quickly 
> see the problem.  A perfectly plausible estimated S/N=0.1 means that in 
> dB, S/N_dB = -10 dB.  At S/N=0 we get "minus infinity dB".
> 
> Some people think it's a big deal when they see a JT65 decode displayed 
> with an estimated S/N_dB of, say, "-30 dB".  This is nothing more than a 
> statistical fluctuation of noise and an illustration of the nature of 
> logarithms.
> 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] problem compiling 1.7.3 rc 3 on ARM

[Richard Bown]

qtmultimedia5-dev  and libqt5serialport5-dev

missing sorry for the bandwidth


On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 13:47:47 +
Richard Bown <rich...@g8jvm.com> wrote:

> Hi
> like to try RC3, but hitting a problem on a ARM ubuntu linux platform, Odroid 
> XU4 8 core.
> I does compile OK on the laptop also linux, also uses ubuntu libs, but kernel 
> versions are very
> different.
> 
> error message is:-
> 
> -- hamlib_STATIC_LIBRARY: /home/odroid/jtsdk/hamlib3/lib/libhamlib.a
> -- hamlib_STATIC_LIBRARIES: /home/odroid/jtsdk/hamlib3/lib/libhamlib.a;m
> CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:743 (find_package):
>   By not providing "FindQt5Multimedia.cmake" in CMAKE_MODULE_PATH this
>   project has asked CMake to find a package configuration file provided by
>   "Qt5Multimedia", but CMake did not find one.
> 
>   Could not find a package configuration file provided by "Qt5Multimedia"
>   (requested version 5) with any of the following names:
> 
> Qt5MultimediaConfig.cmake
> qt5multimedia-config.cmake
> 
>   Add the installation prefix of "Qt5Multimedia" to CMAKE_PREFIX_PATH or set
>   "Qt5Multimedia_DIR" to a directory containing one of the above files.  If
>   "Qt5Multimedia" provides a separate development package or SDK, be sure it
>   has been installed.
> 
> How do you add a path in when using JTSDK to build, or work around this
> 
> TIA
> 



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[wsjt-devel] problem compiling 1.7.3 rc 3 on ARM

[Richard Bown]

Hi
like to try RC3, but hitting a problem on a ARM ubuntu linux platform, Odroid 
XU4 8 core.
I does compile OK on the laptop also linux, also uses ubuntu libs, but kernel 
versions are very
different.

error message is:-

-- hamlib_STATIC_LIBRARY: /home/odroid/jtsdk/hamlib3/lib/libhamlib.a
-- hamlib_STATIC_LIBRARIES: /home/odroid/jtsdk/hamlib3/lib/libhamlib.a;m
CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:743 (find_package):
  By not providing "FindQt5Multimedia.cmake" in CMAKE_MODULE_PATH this
  project has asked CMake to find a package configuration file provided by
  "Qt5Multimedia", but CMake did not find one.

  Could not find a package configuration file provided by "Qt5Multimedia"
  (requested version 5) with any of the following names:

Qt5MultimediaConfig.cmake
qt5multimedia-config.cmake

  Add the installation prefix of "Qt5Multimedia" to CMAKE_PREFIX_PATH or set
  "Qt5Multimedia_DIR" to a directory containing one of the above files.  If
  "Qt5Multimedia" provides a separate development package or SDK, be sure it
  has been installed.

How do you add a path in when using JTSDK to build, or work around this

TIA

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Re: [wsjt-devel] serial control port problem RC3

[Richard Bown]

HI Bob

Yes thats understood,  The reason I mentioned it is that if its there people 
will try it, whereas
if its not listed they will assumed it doesn't work higher than 6mtrs.
Hopefully be able give the list some peace n quiet now :)


On Fri, 9 Dec 2016 23:16:28 +
Bill Somerville <g4...@classdesign.com> wrote:

> On 09/12/2016 20:12, Richard Bown wrote:
> > Any chance of adding 70cms and 23 cms to the MSK144 pulldown, it does work 
> > on those bands.  
> 
> Hi Richard,
> 
> glad you have your new system running now.
> 
> We do not add many working frequency entries for bands above 50MHz as 
> regional allocations and band plans mean that there are few common 
> frequencies. You can add working frequencies yourself in 
> "Settings->Frequencies" so just add the ones that are useful to you for 
> the modes you use.
> 
> 73
> Bill
> G4WJS.
> 
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[wsjt-devel] serial control port problem RC3

[Richard Bown]

Hi
I gave up with the Odroid for weaksignal use, and replaced it with an Dell755, 
for about $60
I'm getting a problem controlling the PTT from the serial port, 
In settings I've selected rig = none and tried both DTR and RTS 
and tried both the internal serial ports ttyS0 and ttyS4
I also tried plugging in a USB FTDI hub and still getting
"hamlib can not open PTT device /dev/ttyS0"
or what ever port I set it to :(
Also if I use the test ptt button I get a Hamlib I/O error and the lefthand box 
goes red, nothing
happens to the righthand "testPTT" box , just get the Hamlib I/O error box come 
up.


richard@G8JVM-OptiPlex-755 ~ $ dmesg |grep tty
[0.00] console [tty0] enabled
[1.433631] 00:03: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4, base_baud = 115200) is a 
16550A
[1.456442] :00:03.3: ttyS4 at I/O 0xec98 (irq = 17, base_baud = 115200) 
is a 16550A
[1.516413] tty ttyS22: hash matches
[9.548589] systemd[1]: Created slice system-getty.slice.
[77334.784401] usb 3-2: FTDI USB Serial Device converter now attached to ttyUSB0
[79784.232416] ftdi_sio ttyUSB0: FTDI USB Serial Device converter now 
disconnected from ttyUSB0
[79794.844956] usb 4-2: FTDI USB Serial Device converter now attached to ttyUSB0

I've moved the FTDI hub around the available USB ports as can be seen above
RC 2 was working on the odroid SBC, I didn't test RC on it as it was going slow 
I dont use a CAT interface on anything as all my rigs are homebrew

Any suggestions ? or is the PTT via serial port function being phased out as 
most use shiney black
boxes that have CAT control ?
TIA


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Re: [wsjt-devel] serial control port problem RC3

[Richard Bown]

It wasn't , but it hasn't made any difference, I've restarted several times
, Also very difficult to close the settings window as its complaining of not 
contacting the serial
port.



I try recompiling as I'm not getting decodes on GB3VHF  JT65B either, and it a 
large signal with me


On Fri, 9 Dec 2016 18:49:07 +
Bill Somerville <g4...@classdesign.com> wrote:

> sudo adduser $USER dialout


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Re: [wsjt-devel] problem compiling 1.7.0 rc 3 on ARM

[Richard Bown]

more info

I'm getting many errors like this on building:-
/usr/include/arm-linux-gnueabihf/qt5/QtGui/qopenglfunctions.h:2138:5: error: 
‘::glVertexAttribPointer’ has not been declared
 ::glVertexAttribPointer(indx, size, type, normalized, stride, ptr);

I've loaded all qt5 libs, all fitting vertex* all *libgl* all *gles* , about 
800 MB , its not
playing !!
before each build jtsdk/wsjtx is deleted so its a clean build.
Guess I'll have to wait until Greg builds an ARMhf rc3 
This is not going to build on the odroid xu4 without some magic applied 



On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 23:26:36 +
Richard Bown <rich...@g8jvm.com> wrote:

> this is not responding to deleting all previous builds and gar/
> 
> tried that several times :(
> 
> 
> On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 21:49:32 +
> Bill Somerville <g4...@classdesign.com> wrote:
> 
> > On 06/12/2016 21:29, Richard Bown wrote:  
> > > I suspect the problem may be with opengl
> > > comparing between the two machine, on the ARM I get many jopengl errors   
> > >  
> > 
> > Hi Richard,
> > 
> > this seems to be a re-run of this thread:
> > 
> > https://sourceforge.net/p/wsjt/mailman/wsjt-devel/thread/20160414184913.209df085.richard%40g8jvm.com/#msg35014162
> > 
> > that seemed to be cleared up by some clean up and re-building.
> > 
> > 73
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> > G4WJS.
> > 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] problem compiling 1.7.3 rc 3 on ARM

[Richard Bown]

Yes, that got me past that stage but I've hit problems further on
when building UDPEamples

[ 78%] Linking CXX executable udp_daemon
CMakeFiles/message_aggregator.dir/build.make:163: recipe for target 
'CMakeFiles/message_aggregator.dir/UDPExamples/ClientWidget.cpp.o' failed
make[2]: *** [CMakeFiles/message_aggregator.dir/UDPExamples/ClientWidget.cpp.o] 
Error 1
CMakeFiles/Makefile2:599: recipe for target 
'CMakeFiles/message_aggregator.dir/all' failed
make[1]: *** [CMakeFiles/message_aggregator.dir/all] Error 2
[ 78%] Built target udp_daemon
Makefile:149: recipe for target 'all' failed
make: *** [all] Error 2

not very intuitive as to whats missing

After downloading a huge chunk of libs I used libkf5* forward slightly, but 
still stuck

[ 81%] Linking CXX executable msk144sim
CMakeFiles/wsjt_qt.dir/build.make:842: recipe for target 
'CMakeFiles/wsjt_qt.dir/SampleDownloader.cpp.o' failed
make[2]: *** [CMakeFiles/wsjt_qt.dir/SampleDownloader.cpp.o] Error 1
CMakeFiles/Makefile2:292: recipe for target 'CMakeFiles/wsjt_qt.dir/all' failed
make[1]: *** [CMakeFiles/wsjt_qt.dir/all] Error 2
make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
[ 81%] Built target msk144sim
CMakeFiles/message_aggregator.dir/build.make:163: recipe for target 
'CMakeFiles/message_aggregator.dir/UDPExamples/ClientWidget.cpp.o' failed
make[2]: *** [CMakeFiles/message_aggregator.dir/UDPExamples/ClientWidget.cpp.o] 
Error 1
make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
CMakeFiles/message_aggregator.dir/build.make:91: recipe for target 
'CMakeFiles/message_aggregator.dir/UDPExamples/MessageAggregatorMainWindow.cpp.o'
 failed
make[2]: *** 
[CMakeFiles/message_aggregator.dir/UDPExamples/MessageAggregatorMainWindow.cpp.o]
 Error 1
CMakeFiles/Makefile2:599: recipe for target 
'CMakeFiles/message_aggregator.dir/all' failed
make[1]: *** [CMakeFiles/message_aggregator.dir/all] Error 2
Makefile:149: recipe for target 'all' failed
make: *** [all] Error 2


 

On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 10:20:42 -0500
Ryan Tourge <ryan.tou...@gmail.com> wrote:

> That fixed it? I was having the same problem.
> 
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Richard Bown <rich...@g8jvm.com> wrote:
> 
> > qtmultimedia5-dev  and libqt5serialport5-dev
> >
> > missing sorry for the bandwidth
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 13:47:47 +
> > Richard Bown <rich...@g8jvm.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi
> > > like to try RC3, but hitting a problem on a ARM ubuntu linux platform,
> > Odroid XU4 8 core.
> > > I does compile OK on the laptop also linux, also uses ubuntu libs, but
> > kernel versions are very
> > > different.
> > >
> > > error message is:-
> > >
> > > -- hamlib_STATIC_LIBRARY: /home/odroid/jtsdk/hamlib3/lib/libhamlib.a
> > > -- hamlib_STATIC_LIBRARIES: /home/odroid/jtsdk/hamlib3/lib/libhamlib.a;m
> > > CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:743 (find_package):
> > >   By not providing "FindQt5Multimedia.cmake" in CMAKE_MODULE_PATH this
> > >   project has asked CMake to find a package configuration file provided
> > by
> > >   "Qt5Multimedia", but CMake did not find one.
> > >
> > >   Could not find a package configuration file provided by "Qt5Multimedia"
> > >   (requested version 5) with any of the following names:
> > >
> > > Qt5MultimediaConfig.cmake
> > > qt5multimedia-config.cmake
> > >
> > >   Add the installation prefix of "Qt5Multimedia" to CMAKE_PREFIX_PATH or
> > set
> > >   "Qt5Multimedia_DIR" to a directory containing one of the above files.
> > If
> > >   "Qt5Multimedia" provides a separate development package or SDK, be
> > sure it
> > >   has been installed.
> > >
> > > How do you add a path in when using JTSDK to build, or work around this
> > >
> > > TIA
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> >
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> > 

Re: [wsjt-devel] problem compiling 1.7.0 rc 3 on ARM

[Richard Bown]

Hi Greg
I dont doubt the rc3 builds are OK, I downloaded your build for armhf this 
morning and it runs.

All I get reported on startup is unable to initialise openGLfor 
RasterGLSurface, reverting to
RasterSurface
and buffer under runs.
Back to my attempts to build on the beast from Korea
It differs from the Raspbery Pi and clones with the hardware and
the drivers are propriety , and I suspect this is where the problem lie.
On the two errors on the build its throwing up 10+ opengl errors like

/usr/include/arm-linux-gnueabihf/qt5/QtGui/qopenglfunctions.h:2138:5: 
error:‘::glVertexAttribPointer’ has not been declared 
::glVertexAttribPointer(indx, size, type,
normalized, stride, ptr);
Always where a ::glVertexAttribxx’ has not been declared 
this I've not seen before this round of trying to build rc3
I would like to find the cause of this.
I've gone past any of the thing which allowed to build previously as the build 
directory
jtsdk/wsjtx/ is deleted so each build is clean.

I'd be interested if anyone else has had problems with Hardkernel products 
(odroid ) C1+ or XU4
Maybe time to find another computer for the shack


On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 22:36:04 -0700
KI7MT <ki7m...@gmail.com> wrote:

> All of the Launchpad builds (i386, amd64, ppc64el, and ARM) were
> successful. Here are the ARM build logs for Ubuntu 14.04.5:
> 
> ARMv8 arm64:
> https://launchpad.net/~ki7mt/+archive/ubuntu/wsjtx-next/+build/11530957
> 
> ARMv7 armhf:
> https://launchpad.net/~ki7mt/+archive/ubuntu/wsjtx-next/+build/11530958
> 
> The builds also passed on Xenial (16.04) and Yakkety (16.10)
> 
> 
> 73's
> Greg, KI7MT
> 
> 
> On 12/06/2016 09:43 PM, Richard Shaw wrote:
> > As another data point, here's a successful build of rc3 on Fedora Rawhide
> > (future f26) on the arm7vhl target which built...
> > 
> > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=16780515
> > 
> > You can use that link to inspect the build logs.
> > 
> > Thanks,
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Re: [wsjt-devel] problem compiling 1.7.0 rc 3 on ARM

[Richard Bown]

Hi

PROGRESS 
its not deleting the ~/jtsdk/wsjtx/gar/  that allows the build

its purging QT5 then re-installing libqt5serialport5-dev, qtmultimedia5-dev
the dependencies for those load everything else on Ubuntu 16.04

purging :  sudo apt-get purge libqt5*  & sudo apt-get purge qt5*

It would suggest that regular updating , ( apt-get update && apt-get upgrade ) 
over a period of
time breaks actual dependencies 
I can at the moment rebuild multiple times , just with the clean option set , 
without altering the
contents of ~/jtsdk/wsjtx/gar/
100% PITA


On Wed, 7 Dec 2016 10:05:27 +0000
Richard Bown <rich...@g8jvm.com> wrote:

> Hi Greg
> I dont doubt the rc3 builds are OK, I downloaded your build for armhf this 
> morning and it runs.
> 
> All I get reported on startup is unable to initialise openGLfor 
> RasterGLSurface, reverting to
> RasterSurface
> and buffer under runs.
> Back to my attempts to build on the beast from Korea
> It differs from the Raspbery Pi and clones with the hardware and
> the drivers are propriety , and I suspect this is where the problem lie.
> On the two errors on the build its throwing up 10+ opengl errors like
> 
> /usr/include/arm-linux-gnueabihf/qt5/QtGui/qopenglfunctions.h:2138:5:
> error:‘::glVertexAttribPointer’ has not been declared 
> ::glVertexAttribPointer(indx, size, type,
> normalized, stride, ptr); Always where a ::glVertexAttribxx’ has not been 
> declared 
> this I've not seen before this round of trying to build rc3
> I would like to find the cause of this.
> I've gone past any of the thing which allowed to build previously as the 
> build directory
> jtsdk/wsjtx/ is deleted so each build is clean.
> 
> I'd be interested if anyone else has had problems with Hardkernel products 
> (odroid ) C1+ or XU4
> Maybe time to find another computer for the shack
> 
> 
> On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 22:36:04 -0700
> KI7MT <ki7m...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > All of the Launchpad builds (i386, amd64, ppc64el, and ARM) were
> > successful. Here are the ARM build logs for Ubuntu 14.04.5:
> > 
> > ARMv8 arm64:
> > https://launchpad.net/~ki7mt/+archive/ubuntu/wsjtx-next/+build/11530957
> > 
> > ARMv7 armhf:
> > https://launchpad.net/~ki7mt/+archive/ubuntu/wsjtx-next/+build/11530958
> > 
> > The builds also passed on Xenial (16.04) and Yakkety (16.10)
> > 
> > 
> > 73's
> > Greg, KI7MT
> > 
> > 
> > On 12/06/2016 09:43 PM, Richard Shaw wrote:  
> > > As another data point, here's a successful build of rc3 on Fedora Rawhide
> > > (future f26) on the arm7vhl target which built...
> > > 
> > > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=16780515
> > > 
> > > You can use that link to inspect the build logs.
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > Richard
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Re: [wsjt-devel] problem compiling 1.7.3 rc 3 on ARM

[Richard Bown]

Hi Richard 
I tried that and just got a no rule to make error
I ran make -d , but not a lot of use, and I found nothing in the CMake log
, so stuck with this error

Reaping losing child 0x165c98 PID 27847 
CMakeFiles/wsjt_qt.dir/build.make:842: recipe for target 
'CMakeFiles/wsjt_qt.dir/SampleDownloader.cpp.o' failed
make[2]: *** [CMakeFiles/wsjt_qt.dir/SampleDownloader.cpp.o] Error 1
Removing child 0x165c98 PID 27847 from chain.
Reaping losing child 0x73b20 PID 27689 
CMakeFiles/Makefile2:292: recipe for target 'CMakeFiles/wsjt_qt.dir/all' failed
make[1]: *** [CMakeFiles/wsjt_qt.dir/all] Error 2
Removing child 0x73b20 PID 27689 from chain.
Reaping losing child 0x5abc0 PID 27312 
Makefile:149: recipe for target 'all' failed
make: *** [all] Error 2
Removing child 0x5abc0 PID 27312 from chain.



On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 10:51:35 -0600
Richard Shaw <hobbes1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm not seeing detailed output, try:
> 
> make VERBOSE=1
> 
> and see if you get more useful output.
> 
> Thanks,
> Richard



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Re: [wsjt-devel] serial control port problem RC3

[Richard Bown]

Damn It, I'd forgotten that Bill, sorry about that
PTT now working and decoding GB3UHF, ,it was too strong.

Any chance of adding 70cms and 23 cms to the MSK144 pulldown, it does work on 
those bands.


On Fri, 9 Dec 2016 19:27:09 +
Bill Somerville <g4...@classdesign.com> wrote:

> On 09/12/2016 19:21, Richard Bown wrote:
> > It wasn't , but it hasn't made any difference, I've restarted several times 
> >  
> 
> Hi Richard,
> 
> restarted WSJT-X? You must log out and log in again for the changed 
> group membership to be applied.
> 
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[wsjt-devel] RC3 and Linux Mint 18.1

[Richard Bown]

Hi
Just upgraded to linux mint 18.1 , no build problems and WSJT-X seems OK

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Re: [wsjt-devel] problem compiling 1.7.0 rc 3 on ARM

[Richard Bown]

Hi that line is 

   @$(CMAKE_COMMAND) -E cmake_echo_color --switch=$(COLOR) --green
   
--progress-dir=/home/odroid/jtsdk/wsjtx/gar/wsjtx-1.7.0-rc3/build/Release/CMakeFiles

   --progres /usr/bin/c++   $(CXX_DEFINES) $(CXX_INCLUDES) $(CXX_FLAGS)  
-include
   wsjtx_config.h -o CMakeFiles/wsjt_qt.dir/SampleDownloader.cpp.o -c 
/home/odroid/jtsdk/src

Unfortunately none the wiser from that :(




On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 13:43:10 -0600
Richard Shaw <hobbes1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 1:19 PM, Richard Bown <rich...@g8jvm.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Richard
> > I tried that and just got a no rule to make error
> > I ran make -d , but not a lot of use, and I found nothing in the CMake log
> > , so stuck with this error
> >
> > Reaping losing child 0x165c98 PID 27847
> > CMakeFiles/wsjt_qt.dir/build.make:842: recipe for target
> > 'CMakeFiles/wsjt_qt.dir/SampleDownloader.cpp.o' failed
> > make[2]: *** [CMakeFiles/wsjt_qt.dir/SampleDownloader.cpp.o] Error 1
> 
> 
> Ok, it may be a makefile error rather than a compile error then, you'll
> have to follow the rabbit trail into CMakeFiles/wsjt_qt.dir/build.make and
> look on line 842 and see if you can figure out what's going wrong.
> 
> Thanks,
> Richard



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Re: [wsjt-devel] problem compiling 1.7.0 rc 3 on ARM

[Richard Bown]

Hi Bill
I was building with jtsdk
I suspect the problem may be with opengl
comparing between the two machine, on the ARM I get many jopengl errors:-

/usr/include/arm-linux-gnueabihf/qt5/QtGui/qopenglfunctions.h: In member 
function ‘void QOpenGLFunctions::glVertexAttrib1f(GLuint, GLfloat)’:
/usr/include/arm-linux-gnueabihf/qt5/QtGui/qopenglfunctions.h:2050:5: error: 
‘::glVertexAttrib1f’ has not been declared
 ::glVertexAttrib1f(indx, x);
 ^
/usr/include/arm-linux-gnueabihf/qt5/QtGui/qopenglfunctions.h: In member 
function ‘void QOpenGLFunctions::glVertexAttrib1fv(GLuint, const GLfloat*)’:
/usr/include/arm-linux-gnueabihf/qt5/QtGui/qopenglfunctions.h:2061:5: error: 
‘::glVertexAttrib1fv’ has not been declared
 ::glVertexAttrib1fv(indx, values);
 ^
/usr/include/arm-linux-gnueabihf/qt5/QtGui/qopenglfunctions.h: In member 
function ‘void QOpenGLFunctions::glVertexAttrib2f(GLuint, GLfloat, GLfloat)’:
/usr/include/arm-linux-gnueabihf/qt5/QtGui/qopenglfunctions.h:2072:5: error: 
‘::glVertexAttrib2f’ has not been declared
 ::glVertexAttrib2f(indx, x, y);
 ^
/usr/include/arm-linux-gnueabihf/qt5/QtGui/qopenglfunctions.h: In member 
function ‘void QOpenGLFunctions::glVertexAttrib2fv(GLuint, const GLfloat*)’:
/usr/include/arm-linux-gnueabihf/qt5/QtGui/qopenglfunctions.h:2083:5: error: 
‘::glVertexAttrib2fv’ has not been declared
 ::glVertexAttrib2fv(indx, values);
 ^
/usr/include/arm-linux-gnueabihf/qt5/QtGui/qopenglfunctions.h: In member 
function ‘void QOpenGLFunctions::glVertexAttrib3f(GLuint, GLfloat, GLfloat, 
GLfloat)’:
/usr/include/arm-linux-gnueabihf/qt5/QtGui/qopenglfunctions.h:2094:5: error: 
‘::glVertexAttrib3f’ has not been declared
 ::glVertexAttrib3f(indx, x, y, z);
 ^
/usr/include/arm-linux-gnueabihf/qt5/QtGui/qopenglfunctions.h: In member 
function ‘void QOpenGLFunctions::glVertexAttrib3fv(GLuint, const GLfloat*)’:
/usr/include/arm-linux-gnueabihf/qt5/QtGui/qopenglfunctions.h:2105:5: error: 
‘::glVertexAttrib3fv’ has not been declared
 ::glVertexAttrib3fv(indx, values);
 ^
/usr/include/arm-linux-gnueabihf/qt5/QtGui/qopenglfunctions.h: In member 
function ‘void QOpenGLFunctions::glVertexAttrib4f(GLuint, GLfloat, GLfloat, 
GLfloat, GLfloat)’:
/usr/include/arm-linux-gnueabihf/qt5/QtGui/qopenglfunctions.h:2116:5: error: 
‘::glVertexAttrib4f’ has not been declared
 ::glVertexAttrib4f(indx, x, y, z, w);
 ^
/usr/include/arm-linux-gnueabihf/qt5/QtGui/qopenglfunctions.h: In member 
function ‘void QOpenGLFunctions::glVertexAttrib4fv(GLuint, const GLfloat*)’:
/usr/include/arm-linux-gnueabihf/qt5/QtGui/qopenglfunctions.h:2127:5: error: 
‘::glVertexAttrib4fv’ has not been declared
 ::glVertexAttrib4fv(indx, values);
 ^
/usr/include/arm-linux-gnueabihf/qt5/QtGui/qopenglfunctions.h: In member 
function ‘void QOpenGLFunctions::glVertexAttribPointer(GLuint, GLint, GLenum, 
GLboolean, GLsizei, const void*)’:
/usr/include/arm-linux-gnueabihf/qt5/QtGui/qopenglfunctions.h:2138:5: error: 
‘::glVertexAttribPointer’ has not been declared
 ::glVertexAttribPointer(indx, size, type, normalized, stride, ptr);
 ^
CMakeFiles/wsjt_qt.dir/build.make:842: recipe for target 
'CMakeFiles/wsjt_qt.dir/SampleDownloader.cpp.o' failed
make[2]: *** [CMakeFiles/wsjt_qt.dir/SampleDownloader.cpp.o] Error 1
CMakeFiles/Makefile2:292: recipe for target 'CMakeFiles/wsjt_qt.dir/all' failed
make[1]: *** [CMakeFiles/wsjt_qt.dir/all] Error 2
Makefile:149: recipe for target 'all' failed
make: *** [all] Error 2

make run in ~/jtsdk/wsjtx/gar/wsjtx-1.7.0-rc3/build/Release$

HTH

Thanks


On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 21:01:51 +
Bill Somerville <g4...@classdesign.com> wrote:

> On 06/12/2016 16:28, Richard Bown wrote:
> > Yes, that got me past that stage but I've hit problems further on
> > when building UDPEamples
> >
> > [ 78%] Linking CXX executable udp_daemon
> > CMakeFiles/message_aggregator.dir/build.make:163: recipe for target
> > 'CMakeFiles/message_aggregator.dir/UDPExamples/ClientWidget.cpp.o' failed 
> > make[2]: ***
> > [CMakeFiles/message_aggregator.dir/UDPExamples/ClientWidget.cpp.o] Error 1
> > CMakeFiles/Makefile2:599: recipe for target 
> > 'CMakeFiles/message_aggregator.dir/all' failed
> > make[1]: *** [CMakeFiles/message_aggregator.dir/all] Error 2 [ 78%] Built 
> > target udp_daemon
> > Makefile:149: recipe for target 'all' failed
> > make: *** [all] Error 2  
> 
> Hi Richard,
> 
> it looks like you are giving a -j option to your build command, that is 
> fine for fast builds but does not help with getting sequential output 
> with the error at the end. Try the build command again without any -j or 
> -k options and report back the last few tens of lines of output.
> 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] problem compiling 1.7.0 rc 3 on ARM

[Richard Bown]

this is not responding to deleting all previous builds and gar/

tried that several times :(


On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 21:49:32 +
Bill Somerville <g4...@classdesign.com> wrote:

> On 06/12/2016 21:29, Richard Bown wrote:
> > I suspect the problem may be with opengl
> > comparing between the two machine, on the ARM I get many jopengl errors  
> 
> Hi Richard,
> 
> this seems to be a re-run of this thread:
> 
> https://sourceforge.net/p/wsjt/mailman/wsjt-devel/thread/20160414184913.209df085.richard%40g8jvm.com/#msg35014162
> 
> that seemed to be cleared up by some clean up and re-building.
> 
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[wsjt-devel] next version wsjtx wish list

[Richard Bown]

Hi
I dont use any of the WSJT modes at HF all my use is VHF upwards, and a lot of 
time is spent in the
shack watching very weak beacons, either JT65b or JT4.
What would be nice is a fast waterfall display, sorta like the fast display on 
MSK144 but vertical.
At the moment I use the waterfall display on fldigi , but if I see anything 
that uses multiple
tones, its a case of shutting it down and starting wsjx try a decode, which 
could be off listed
frequency due to doppler shift if an aircraft reflection, or might not be whats 
expected as there
are many beacons in Europe nearly on the same frequency and on similar beam 
headings from the UK.
It would be nice to use just one piece of software to do this.

One great thing about wsjtx is that it can be run on any OS and small resourced 
ARM SBCs, unlike PI4
which can only be decoded on  windows OS, and my qth is a windows free zone.
Another is that it uses QT5, whereas many other SDRs etc are still lagging 
behind using QT4 and some
even QT3, this does lead to a few headaches when trying to build with different 
versions of QT on
the same machine.
I noticed someone else has asked for a fast vertical display for MSK144.
The work on WSJTX is greatly appreciated, thanks

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Re: [wsjt-devel] What in the world is "JT10"

[Richard Bown]

Hiya 
There is one huge difference between wsjtx and all the other clones and so 
called better systems.
You can run wsjtx and wsjt on all platforms. 
Thats very important and demomstrates a highly professional approach to 
providing for all user.
Long may it continue and thanks for developing this way. 
Richard g8jvm 

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ smartphone

 Joe Taylor wrote 

>Hi James and Neil,
>
>You're correct on all points.
>
>As you imply, JT10 is a "JT" mode only to the extent that (like the rest 
>of JTDX) most of its code is taken directly from WSJT-X.
>
>As far as I can tell, JT10 is JT9 with the sync pattern conveyed by 
>means of 2-FSK rather than OOK (On-Off Keying).
>
>What to do about it?  Nothing, I guess...
>
>   -- Joe, K1JT
>
>On 4/11/2017 2:40 PM, Neil Zampella wrote:
>> Joe .. I think the issue as James stated in his reply, is that the
>> person in question has tinkered with the encoder/decoder and created
>> what he claims is JT10.   There are a bunch of us that are trying to
>> point out on Facebook that since no one on the WSJT development team (or
>> contributors) has done any work on this "new" mode that it should not be
>> called JT-anything.   We just wanted to make sure that y'all know, and
>> wonder if there is any GPL v3 violation here.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4/10/2017 5:39 PM, Joe Taylor wrote:
>>> On 4/10/2017 5:09 PM, James Shaver (N2ADV) wrote:
 Not necessarily WSJT-X related (but maybe?).  I just saw a Facebook
 post touting "the new JT10 mode" which is part of JTDX - I have to
 admit that I'm confused.  Can someone enlighten me?
>>>
>>> This email list is concerned with WSJT(-X), MAP65, and WSPR; it's not
>>> the place to ask about JTDX.
>>>
>>> Aside from having written most of the code that was copied to make
>>> JTDX, we know next to nothing about that program.  Exchange of
>>> information is essentially one-way, WSJT-X ==> JTDX.
>>>
>>> For what it's worth, I'd guess that your Facebook poster is simply
>>> misinformed.
>>>
>>> -- Joe, K1JT
>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Trying to compile on OS X for the first time

[Richard Bown]

ignore, Bill posted same time


On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 18:09:11 +0100
Richard Bown <rich...@g8jvm.com> wrote:

> Hi Gary
> there are two ways to get around this
> 
> when you build hamlib use the switches to set the install to where the wsjtx 
> build is expecting to
> find it.
> or 
> in the directories its looking for hamlib, use a symlink to point to the 
> actual location of where
> hamlib is installed.
>  Hope you understand what I mean, GL
> 
> 
> On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 12:34:06 -0400
> "C. Gary Rogers" <dc4aac...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> > Hello all, i’ve been following Bill’s instructions on compiling WSJT-X on 
> > MacBook Pro OS X
> > 10.12.5
> > 
> > All is successful until i attempt:
> > 
> > $ cd ~/wsjtx-prefix/build
> > $ FC=gfortran-mp-5 \
> >cmake \
> >-D CMAKE_PREFIX_PATH="~/Qt/5.7/clang_64;~/hamlib-prefix;/opt/local" \
> >-D CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=~/wsjtx-prefix \
> >-D
> > CMAKE_OSX_SYSROOT=/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.11.sdk
> > \ ~/wsjtx-prefix/src This is the result:
> > 
> > Last login: Sat Jul 29 11:56:56 on ttys001
> > Charless-MacBook-Pro:~ charlesrogers$ cd ~/wsjtx-prefix/build
> > Charless-MacBook-Pro:build charlesrogers$  FC=gfortran-mp-5 \  
> > >cmake \
> > >-D CMAKE_PREFIX_PATH="~/Qt/5.7/clang_64;~/hamlib-prefix;/opt/local" \
> > >-D CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=~/wsjtx-prefix \
> > >-D
> > > CMAKE_OSX_SYSROOT=/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.12.sdk
> > > \ ~/wsjtx-prefix/src
> > -- Building wsjtx-1.7.1-devel
> > -- **
> > -- Building for for: Darwin-x86_64
> > -- **
> > -- Boost version: 1.63.0
> > -- Could NOT find OpenMP_C (missing: OpenMP_C_FLAGS OpenMP_C_LIB_NAMES) 
> > (found version "1.0")
> > -- Could NOT find OpenMP_CXX (missing: OpenMP_CXX_FLAGS 
> > OpenMP_CXX_LIB_NAMES) (found version
> > "1.0") -- Checking for module 'hamlib'
> > --   No package 'hamlib' found
> > hamlib_INCLUDEDIR=hamlib_INCLUDEDIR-NOTFOUND
> > hamlib_LIBRARY=hamlib_LIBRARY-NOTFOUND
> > hamlib_EXTRA_LIBRARIES=/opt/local/lib/libusb-1.0.dylib;m;dl
> > CMake Error at CMake/Modules/LibFindMacros.cmake:87 (message):
> >   Required library hamlib NOT FOUND.
> > 
> >   Install the library (dev version) and try again.  If the library is 
> > already
> >   installed, use ccmake to set the missing variables manually.
> > Call Stack (most recent call first):
> >   CMake/Modules/Findhamlib.cmake:69 (libfind_process)
> >   CMakeLists.txt:848 (find_package)
> > 
> > 
> > -- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred!
> > See also 
> > "/Users/charlesrogers/wsjtx-prefix/build/CMakeFiles/CMakeOutput.log".
> > Charless-MacBook-Pro:build charlesrogers$ 
> > 
> > Log is attached here:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I rebuilt hamlib which indicated that it was OK and reran with same 
> > result…Not exactly sure how
> > to:
> > 
> > use ccmake to set the missing variables manually.
> > Call Stack (most recent call first):
> >   CMake/Modules/Findhamlib.cmake:69 (libfind_process)
> >   CMakeLists.txt:848 (find_package)
> > 
> > Any suggestions as to how to resolve?
> > 
> > Thanks Gary KO3F
> > 
> > 
> >   
> 
> 
> 



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Re: [wsjt-devel] Trying to compile on OS X for the first time

[Richard Bown]

Hi Gary
there are two ways to get around this

when you build hamlib use the switches to set the install to where the wsjtx 
build is expecting to
find it.
or 
in the directories its looking for hamlib, use a symlink to point to the actual 
location of where
hamlib is installed.
 Hope you understand what I mean, GL


On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 12:34:06 -0400
"C. Gary Rogers" <dc4aac...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Hello all, i’ve been following Bill’s instructions on compiling WSJT-X on 
> MacBook Pro OS X 10.12.5
> 
> All is successful until i attempt:
> 
> $ cd ~/wsjtx-prefix/build
> $ FC=gfortran-mp-5 \
>cmake \
>-D CMAKE_PREFIX_PATH="~/Qt/5.7/clang_64;~/hamlib-prefix;/opt/local" \
>-D CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=~/wsjtx-prefix \
>-D
> CMAKE_OSX_SYSROOT=/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.11.sdk
> \ ~/wsjtx-prefix/src This is the result:
> 
> Last login: Sat Jul 29 11:56:56 on ttys001
> Charless-MacBook-Pro:~ charlesrogers$ cd ~/wsjtx-prefix/build
> Charless-MacBook-Pro:build charlesrogers$  FC=gfortran-mp-5 \
> >cmake \
> >-D CMAKE_PREFIX_PATH="~/Qt/5.7/clang_64;~/hamlib-prefix;/opt/local" \
> >-D CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=~/wsjtx-prefix \
> >-D
> > CMAKE_OSX_SYSROOT=/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.12.sdk
> > \ ~/wsjtx-prefix/src  
> -- Building wsjtx-1.7.1-devel
> -- **
> -- Building for for: Darwin-x86_64
> -- **
> -- Boost version: 1.63.0
> -- Could NOT find OpenMP_C (missing: OpenMP_C_FLAGS OpenMP_C_LIB_NAMES) 
> (found version "1.0")
> -- Could NOT find OpenMP_CXX (missing: OpenMP_CXX_FLAGS OpenMP_CXX_LIB_NAMES) 
> (found version
> "1.0") -- Checking for module 'hamlib'
> --   No package 'hamlib' found
> hamlib_INCLUDEDIR=hamlib_INCLUDEDIR-NOTFOUND
> hamlib_LIBRARY=hamlib_LIBRARY-NOTFOUND
> hamlib_EXTRA_LIBRARIES=/opt/local/lib/libusb-1.0.dylib;m;dl
> CMake Error at CMake/Modules/LibFindMacros.cmake:87 (message):
>   Required library hamlib NOT FOUND.
> 
>   Install the library (dev version) and try again.  If the library is already
>   installed, use ccmake to set the missing variables manually.
> Call Stack (most recent call first):
>   CMake/Modules/Findhamlib.cmake:69 (libfind_process)
>   CMakeLists.txt:848 (find_package)
> 
> 
> -- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred!
> See also "/Users/charlesrogers/wsjtx-prefix/build/CMakeFiles/CMakeOutput.log".
> Charless-MacBook-Pro:build charlesrogers$ 
> 
> Log is attached here:
> 
> 
> 
> I rebuilt hamlib which indicated that it was OK and reran with same 
> result…Not exactly sure how
> to:
> 
> use ccmake to set the missing variables manually.
> Call Stack (most recent call first):
>   CMake/Modules/Findhamlib.cmake:69 (libfind_process)
>   CMakeLists.txt:848 (find_package)
> 
> Any suggestions as to how to resolve?
> 
> Thanks Gary KO3F
> 
> 
> 



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[wsjt-devel] MS

[Richard Bown]

Are there any plans to develop a faster mode than MSK144 to use for  UHF MS ?

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Re: [wsjt-devel] About qrm

[Richard Bown]

Its not entirely Off limit on this reflector
Its the dev list for weak signal applications.
However, FT8 is being used as a mode of preference, when a QSO could easily be 
completed on SSB or
CW.
How about adding a feature that would put a BIG red screen splash up when 
signals exceed a certain
limit to remind users its for weak signal use, If you want to work trans 
atlantic now you have to
hope its in to a country that has now internet or any means of time syncing; 
transceivers have
microphones as well !
All I see is spots for either 50.276 of 50.313 MHz .
Maybe those in N A dont want to speak to other hams anymore, weak signal modes 
are a useful tool
that can be used when the signals are too weak to use CW or SSB

So A feature request A BIG RED SPLASH SCREEN when signals are big enough to use 
SSB or CW, this is
turning from a very useful tool to an automatic square ( grid ) bagging thing, 
which I dont think
Joe intended it for.


On Thu, 3 Aug 2017 13:47:02 -0700
Jim Brown  wrote:

> On 8/3/2017 12:40 PM, James Shaver (N2ADV) wrote:
> > I was running 10 milliwatts and had an IMD of -35dB.
> >
> > Power is only the tiniest fraction of the equation.
> >  
> Yes, and how much is appropriate depends entirely on the band, the 
> conditions, and what you want to work.
> 
> High power does not, by itself, generate trash. Poorly adjusted rigs, 
> poor quality rigs, use of ALC between an amp and the rig, failure to 
> TUNE the power amp (or running it into an un-matched antenna), running a 
> rig from lower than it's rated DC supply voltage, overdrive in the audio 
> chain between rig and computer, all generate trash.
> 
> AND -- rigs with poor strong signal handling characteristics also 
> generate trash that they send to the computer to decode. Yes, WSJT modes 
> can be used with pretty simple and inexpensive rigs, but better rigs 
> work better on both TX and RX. And often when someone complains of a 
> strong signal being trashy the trash is created in the rig of the ham 
> who's complaining!
> 
> I use WSJT modes only on 6M and 160M, and only for weak signal work. I 
> routinely run 500W on 6M, and anywhere from 5W (to finish QRP WAS on 
> 160M) and 1500W to work DX on 160M.
> 
> BTW -- this entire discussion is out of place on this reflector, which 
> is for WSJT Developers.
> 
> 73, Jim K9YC
> 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Linux JTSDK build problem.

[Richard Bown]

Hi
Builds OK on linux Mint 18.1 64 bit ,which uses the same libs as ubuntu 16.04


On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 16:10:06 -0600
"Greg Beam" <ki7m...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Llyod,
> 
> You can contact me off-line to keep the traffic on the mailing-dist down a
> bit.
> 
> Couple question to answer in the offline email:
> * What Linux distro are you using?
> * How did you install JTSDK-Nix?
> 
> 73's
> Greg, KI7MT
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Lloyd Kirk [mailto:ll...@gcis.biz] 
> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 3:08 PM
> To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: [wsjt-devel] Linux JTSDK build problem.
> 
> Hello,
> Can someone contact me perhaps directly if needed to answer a couple of
> questions? I had JTSDK 2.0.21 installed on ubuntu 14.04  and it was working
> but would not update the devel wsjtx to current, so I removed it and
> re-installed. I have built hamlib, when I try to build the latest devel of
> wsjtx it complains it cant find hamlib. I am sure I must have missed
> something in the re-install. It has no problems building the other programs
> i.e wspr, just not wsjtx.
> 
> Lloyd Kirk
> WB5HUP
> 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8: CW ID not a good idea

[Richard Bown]

Hi All
re 
"Morse code speeds are conventionally defined in a very precise way. See, for 
example, http://www.kent-engineers.com/codespeed.htm . 

The width of the main spectral lobe of a CW signal in Hz is roughly equal to 
the speed in WPM.  Fairly strong secondary lobes occur at multiples of this 
number.  Sending the CW ID at (say) 100 WPM, in order to squeze it into a 15 s 
Tx interval, would make the CW ID much wider than an FT8 signal. 

Most likely we will implement CW ID as a separate, dedicated transmission when 
the T/R sequence length is less than 30 s. 

NB: Since June 15, 1983 FCC does NOT require US amateurs to use a CWID with 
data modes. "

That is a convention only
As far as I know, but this might have changed since your last presidential 
election, but Kent
Engineering is not a legislative body., and there are several different morse 
alphabets apart from
latin characters.
And as Joe also says there is no legal requirement in the US for data modes.
For a convention to become law in a country it must be ratified by that 
countries legislative body,
I seriously doubt if the majority of amateurs really understand their licence 
requirements.
So in my opinion leave cw ident out.

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Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8: CW ID not a good idea

[Richard Bown]

Hi
I'm a bit confused with pandanticity of the CW ident.
the classification of the speed of sending morse is weird anyway.
definition of a word  definition of a character 
Why not just take the longest word in the dictionary , multiply that by 20, and 
count up all the
letters, I guess someone will want to take the mean average of between an E and 
probably a J
so with that you can wind the wick up until you you can send all the characters 
in your callsign in
a couple of seconds.
If its going to be read by any gov agency it will be machine read anyway
antidisestablishmentarianism , that was the longest when I was at school
73


On Wed, 5 Jul 2017 21:46:16 +
David Tiller <dtil...@captechconsulting.com> wrote:

> If you knew you had to send an ID with a packet, could you not reduce the 
> amplitude of the whole
> data packet by a db or so and re-allocate that power to the CW ID? It 
> certainly doesn't have to
> be loud, much like repeaters do id-under-voice. That way the FT8 signal taken 
> by itself would
> still be constant envelope, and the CW id could be sent way down at 
> FDial+100Hz. If the OOK
> nature of CW is the issue, you could always treat it as FSK using 1 Hz and 
> 100Hz. The 1Hz
> component would get chopped out in the radio, leaving the ID and FT8 signal.
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 5, 2017, at 5:29 PM, Richard Lamont <rich...@lamont.me.uk> wrote:
> 
> > On 05/07/17 22:10, David Tiller wrote:
> >   
> >> Any chance of having the CW id run concurrently with a data packet, 
> >> perhaps at fDial + 100 Hz
> >> or so? It'd meet the id requirement without interfering with QSOs.  
> > 
> > Doing it concurrently wouldn't be compatible with FT8 being a 'constant
> > envelope' mode.
> > 
> > 73,
> > Richard G4DYA
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Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8: Three extra bits are available

[Richard Bown]

A further note
Ians log was I suspect from N W Europe, if you draw a circle of 1000kms centred 
on Rome , , Italy,
that will cover the mot prolific use of complex callsigns, The Italians have 
similar regulations to
those in Austria, and are in range of most of the Adriatic and Mediterranean 
coast.
>From those areas you could have as much as 10% of callsigns with either format 
>of xx/ or
/ wrote:

> you are missing an important point Joe
> As FT8 is a quick exchange mode it will encourage more use, so what is 1% on 
> current figures
> supplied by Ian will rise, especially on shorter period contests on 6 mtrs 
> and 4 mtrs in the
> summer where there are many Hams that spend weeks , sometimes months in 
> second homes in the
> Mediterranean coastal areas.
> Its like asking how many will be using wsjt modes before you wrote it..
> IMO , I would allow for 5% of entries to have complex callsigns .
> 
> 
> On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 16:18:29 -0400
> Joe Taylor <j...@princeton.edu> wrote:
> 
> > On 7/28/2017 4:03 PM, Richard Bown wrote:  
> > > It could be a considerable amount Joe, Some countries in region 1 are 
> > > small.
> > But what I wanted to know is what that amount actually is, in practice, 
> > in a typical VHF+ Region 1 contest log containing some hundreds of  QSOs.
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Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8: Three extra bits are available

[Richard Bown]

I dont as I no longer enter contests, But Ian gave you figures which showed 1% 
, BUT as I said
those figures will be much higher from central Mediterranean area.
taking imperial figures before a mode is used in vengeance in a contest, is IMO 
not going to allow
for increased activity.
FT8 allows for minimal human intervention, the bandwidth allows for much lower 
power levels, and
allow with ease the use on holiday with a very minimal setup. And in the Med 
area there is very
enhanced tropo propagation most of the summer months, as well as Es
So its not unreasonable to predict that there will be more hams on vacation 
participating in
contest activity on VHF+
I've noticed there are more non local Hams on 6mtrs this summer in Spain, 
expats will have EA
callsigns , but I've worked as many non Spanish stations from Spain as Spanish 
stations.
There will also be more in July, August with school vacations , so looking at 
the major contest
logs will be misleading as they tend to be in the Spring and Fall, 
Europe has free movement with over 30 different call prefixes, with the largest 
concentration 
in the northern Med area, 
I understand difficult to understand as there is nothing like it on the NA 
continent.


On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 17:07:29 -0400
Joe Taylor <j...@princeton.edu> wrote:

> Richard --
> 
> Once again: What we would like to have as a baseline reference is an 
> actual count of complex callsigns in a recent log from a Region 1 VHF+ 
> contest that contains some hundreds of QSOs.  Do you have one?
> 
>   -- Joe, K1JT
> 
> On 7/28/2017 5:01 PM, Richard Bown wrote:
> > A further note
> > Ians log was I suspect from N W Europe, if you draw a circle of 1000kms 
> > centred on Rome , ,
> > Italy, that will cover the mot prolific use of complex callsigns, The 
> > Italians have similar
> > regulations to those in Austria, and are in range of most of the Adriatic 
> > and Mediterranean
> > coast. From those areas you could have as much as 10% of callsigns with 
> > either format of
> > xx/ or / > There will also be those making contacts with contest stations that wont 
> > put an entry in
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 21:36:21 +0100
> > Richard Bown <rich...@g8jvm.com> wrote:
> >   
> >> you are missing an important point Joe
> >> As FT8 is a quick exchange mode it will encourage more use, so what is 1% 
> >> on current figures
> >> supplied by Ian will rise, especially on shorter period contests on 6 mtrs 
> >> and 4 mtrs in the
> >> summer where there are many Hams that spend weeks , sometimes months in 
> >> second homes in the
> >> Mediterranean coastal areas.
> >> Its like asking how many will be using wsjt modes before you wrote it..
> >> IMO , I would allow for 5% of entries to have complex callsigns .
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 16:18:29 -0400
> >> Joe Taylor <j...@princeton.edu> wrote:
> >>  
> >>> On 7/28/2017 4:03 PM, Richard Bown wrote:  
> >>>> It could be a considerable amount Joe, Some countries in region 1 are 
> >>>> small.  
> >>> But what I wanted to know is what that amount actually is, in practice,
> >>> in a typical VHF+ Region 1 contest log containing some hundreds of  QSOs.
> >>>   -- Joe, K1JT
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Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8: Three extra bits are available

[Richard Bown]

t;  needs to be transmitted. Most contest exchanges can be
> > found in the
> >  N1MM contest program https://n1mm.hamdocs.com
> > 
> > 
> > 73, Palle, OZ1RH.
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Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8: Three extra bits are available

[Richard Bown]

you are missing an important point Joe
As FT8 is a quick exchange mode it will encourage more use, so what is 1% on 
current figures
supplied by Ian will rise, especially on shorter period contests on 6 mtrs and 
4 mtrs in the summer
where there are many Hams that spend weeks , sometimes months in second homes 
in the Mediterranean
coastal areas.
Its like asking how many will be using wsjt modes before you wrote it..
IMO , I would allow for 5% of entries to have complex callsigns .


On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 16:18:29 -0400
Joe Taylor <j...@princeton.edu> wrote:

> On 7/28/2017 4:03 PM, Richard Bown wrote:
> > It could be a considerable amount Joe, Some countries in region 1 are 
> > small.  
> But what I wanted to know is what that amount actually is, in practice, 
> in a typical VHF+ Region 1 contest log containing some hundreds of  QSOs.
>   -- Joe, K1JT
> 
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[wsjt-devel] feature request

[Richard Bown]

Hi
I'd like to use JT4 in  beacon mode on the microwave bands, for propagation 
studies
Can the WD Tx timer be disabled , maybe in settings the sequence ,97,98,OFF
Also in the free message format to be able to send /B  <6 digit 
grid>
what I'm getting is the last letter of the grid is dropped even though the 
whole message
of "G8JVM/B IO82SP" is less than  callsign> 
ie what is sent is "G8JVM/B IO82S"

It would be nice if a 30 second period could be selected, two reason it 
wouldn't matter if first or
second period is selected , and it would keep the SSPA a little cooler.
The UK is getting the reputation of the RF black hole of Europe.
It would be nice when I'm not using equipment to put it in beacon mode and send 
some RF out of the
hole.

Thanks

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Re: [wsjt-devel] feature request

[Richard Bown]

Hi Bill ,
 sorry on the WDT I stepped through going up to the maximum,

OK on the protocol change for 30 sec period,
I've tried editing the standard messages , even putting the QRA locator in the 
Callsign box so it
appears first, but the callsign gets truncated from "G8JVM/B" to "G8JVM/"
It would be a nice feature to be able to show that your are in beacon mode by 
adding a /B to the
callsign,
or what maybe easy to implement , to allow "/B" to be allowed in the report 
field, so it would send
"IO82SP G8JVM /B", would it be possible to add "/B" as a legitimate entry in 
the report field to
indicate you are in beacon mode.
Thanks


On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 21:51:05 +0100
Bill Somerville <g4...@classdesign.com> wrote:

> On 09/08/2017 21:31, Richard Bown wrote:
> > I'd like to use JT4 in  beacon mode on the microwave bands, for propagation 
> > studies
> > Can the WD Tx timer be disabled , maybe in settings the sequence ,97,98,OFF
> > Also in the free message format to be able to send /B  <6 digit 
> > grid>
> > what I'm getting is the last letter of the grid is dropped even though the 
> > whole message
> > of "G8JVM/B IO82SP" is less than  callsign> 
> > ie what is sent is "G8JVM/B IO82S"
> >
> > It would be nice if a 30 second period could be selected, two reason it 
> > wouldn't matter if
> > first or second period is selected , and it would keep the SSPA a little 
> > cooler.
> > The UK is getting the reputation of the RF black hole of Europe.
> > It would be nice when I'm not using equipment to put it in beacon mode and 
> > send some RF out of
> > the hole.  
> 
> HI Richard,
> 
> sure, the watchdog timer can be disabled, set it to "Disabled" which is  
> just before 1 minute.
> 
> Free text messages are limited to 13 characters including spaces so you 
> can only send a 6-digit grid locator if the callsign is 6 characters or 
> less.
> 
> JT4 with a 30s period would be a protocol change, JT4 only sends the 
> message once per period along with FEC and sync symbols. To shorten the 
> sequence would require either a faster symbol rate or more tones, a very 
> different protocol.
> 
> 73
> Bill
> G4WJS.
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