@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 23 March, 2011 10:44:24
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Add Nothing Extra
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 5:28 PM, Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com wrote:
Chris,
True enough.. but while i haven't followed this thread.. ..is there is some
implied threat or point
Chris,
True enough.. but while i haven't followed this thread.. ..is there is some
implied threat or point. Whose efforts are in vain-- and what where the hopes
anyway?
Thanks..k
--- On Tue, 3/22/11, ChrisAustinLane ch...@austin-lane.net wrote:
From: ChrisAustinLane
Hi Mike...
(My comments follow yours below)...
I fully accept Bill's statement that zen is a-ethical.
I agree, but this doesn't give us the full picture either. If you look at many
of the illustrations of Buddhist iconography you can see that to the right of
buddha sits Manjusri
ED,
I have comments on the attached but will offer them later. But wanted to share
this now..
Does this line-up with the teachers you had? k
You mentioned when you are simply present to the here and now Longchenpa
wrote Spontaneously present meditative stability...This idea
] First Master of Dzogchen
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, March 17, 2011, 11:55 AM
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Kristy McClain healthyplay1@... wrote:
ED,
Â
Â
I have comments on the attached but will offer them later. But wanted to
share this now..
Â
Does
ED..
One final comment on this..
I think the attached comments correlate with my prior comment. They teach that
the environment is simply not the focus. That, in fact, being distracted is
equally relevant to the process. Or -- this is how I am reading this. Take
care.. k
, 13/3/11, Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] Learning to See Consciously
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 13 March, 2011, 1:14
Hi Edgar, ED, and all,
Thanks Edgar, for posting this. Very interesting
Hi ED,
I will re-read your comments on this later today, but this caught my eye now...
Many Eastern Masters have asserted that their meditation practices train the
mind to be blissed out, independent of environment.
If I reduced my comment on this topic to one sentence, the theme would be:
*bows*
I saw this.. and am now wondering if Chris could program software to solve
koans? Like this age-regression software so we truly know what our face was
like before we were born... k
on the monkey’s face
a monkey face.
—Basho
Bruce
Ed --
The NIH has boosted their funding considerably since 1997 on integrative
treatment models--to include such modalities as accupuncture and qi. Even
corporate insurance companies are paying for accupuncture therapies now. I
don't know the specifics, but I guess-timate that qi is being
Bill,
Well then..
If they are no hidden meanings or secretive ideas-- then why didn't he just say
that his teachings were available to all, and he expected nothing in return,
beit praise or blame. Instead of metaphor...k
--- On Sun, 3/13/11, Bill! billsm...@hhs1963.org wrote:
From: Bill!
Because what he said is much funnier. True zen laughs often.
On Mar 13, 2011 9:30 PM, Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com wrote:
Bill,
Well then..
If they are no hidden meanings or secretive ideas-- then why didn't he just say
that his teachings were available to all, and he
with
rape. It was also interesting though couldn't understand much all its contents,
the contribution from Edgar as a male talking.
Mayka
--- On Thu, 24/2/11, Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Can A Buddha Harm Others
, Kristy McClain healthyplay1@... wrote:
Edgar,
Â
I already knew that was what you meant. I understand that, and its true in
many cases. But as I said, there are other opportunities for sexual
satisfaction ourside of marriage, and many use them.
Â
My point is-- this is not a one
is just one of the things they can do to them.
...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Kristy McClain healthyplay1@... wrote:
Edgar,
Â
Your conclusions here are simply not accurate. I agreed that sex is one of
the factors t that motivate rape. But being sexually satisfied does
Mayka,
I was raped. I think you have some work to do on
empathy yourself. If you want to help your sister.. help yourself first.
I care about you-- but I admit--you make it difficult sometimes..
Kristy (Before you have a impulse for a defensive reply--hit delete).
--- On Fri,
...@btinternet.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Can A Buddha Harm Others?
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, February 25, 2011, 3:49 AM
Krsity:
Could you kindly illustrate me what are you talking about?.
Thanks
Mayka
--- On Fri, 25/2/11, Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com wrote:
From
was a conversation between Bill
and myself. I don't understand what I may have said to bring in you such a
reaction.
Mayka
--- On Fri, 25/2/11, Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Can A Buddha Harm Others?
To: Zen_Forum
Hey Chris,
Glad your sesshi went well.
Let me state a few things:
1. Most mail readers can allow you to send all comments from a given
email address directly to the trash. I am periodically tempted to do
this with some people that irritate me habitually, but of course the
great way is easy
Anthony Chris,
I remember the first time I visite the Holocaust Museum in D.C. I watched a
short film of two Jewish men scheduled for execution. One man said how
grateful he was to their captors. The other, shocked at hearing this, asked
Why?
The man replied, I'm thankful I am not
JM,
I am truly delighted that you feel this way. I will arrange for you to share
your practice and this insight with a sex-offenders group in your country. I
know they will welcome the idea that they--too, are part of the One, and do
not need tp fear those who would like to castrate them.
:26 PM, Kristy McClain wrote:
Edgar,
I agree fully with your 2nd and 3rd paragraphs, but I disagree with part of
what you say in the first, when you suggest that the cure for a rapist, is to
have a willing partner to satisfy and indulge his sexual appetite and
fantasiey, whenever he
Thanks, Mel. I'll spend some time with your comments.. k
--- On Wed, 2/23/11, Mel gunnar19632...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
From: Mel gunnar19632...@yahoo.com.au
Subject: Re: [Zen] Can A Buddha Harm Others?
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 23, 2011, 1:57 AM
Anthony,
You are back to the striving-thing. How can one strive , and be in just
THIS at the same time? In my view-- you can't. Please enlighten me... k
--- On Wed, 2/23/11, Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg wrote:
From: Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg
Subject: Re: [Zen] Can A Buddha Harm
of being raped was out of line. A comment like this only can
encourage more a rapist to keep going.
Mayka
--- On Wed, 23/2/11, Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Can A Buddha Harm Others?
To: Zen_Forum
. There
was not intention of offense, though.
Mayka
--- On Wed, 23/2/11, Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Can A Buddha Harm Others?
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 23 February, 2011, 18:55
Mayka
Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Can A Buddha Harm Others?
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 23, 2011, 3:10 PM
K...
You lose me now. What do you mean?. Explain, please.
Mayka
--- On Wed, 23/2/11, Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com wrote
For Anthony..
Given the recent threads, I had to laugh when I saw this..
Off to a fun-filled lecture on hormones (HRT);) k
Having trouble viewing this email? Click here
Bringing Everything to the Path
Integral Tantra
Sally Kempton and Ken Wilber
This is
@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 23, 2011, 4:42 PM
Did you mean the article:
In Defense of Promiscuity Part II
Jun Po Kelly Roshi
(http://integrallife.com/member/jun-po-kelly-roshi/blog/defense-promiscuity-part-ii)
?
--ED
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Kristy McClain
rape fantasies as well. These often take
the form of the woman he rapes realizing how wonderful he is and falling head
over heels in love with him because he is such a great lover whether he
actually is or not!
Edgar
On Feb 23, 2011, at 1:22 PM, Kristy McClain wrote:
Edgar
Ed,
I think we're witnessing the coronation process.
(Am behind on mail, but will catch up)... ~k~ :)
--- On Tue, 2/22/11, Bill! billsm...@hhs1963.org wrote:
From: Bill! billsm...@hhs1963.org
Subject: [Zen] Re: An Article of Interest
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, February
Anthony,
Its not bad. Its not good. It's Just THIS.. ~k~
--- On Tue, 2/22/11, Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg wrote:
From: Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: An Article of Interest
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, February 22, 2011, 8:46 PM
ED,
Anthony,
No.. Its Just her And her. And her.. And - oh her. And yeah--her too~k
--- On Tue, 2/22/11, Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg wrote:
From: Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: An Article of Interest
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, February 22, 2011,
Anthony,
*blush* *fanning me face* *sigh* *breathing fast*
Name the date. I'll be there.. k
--- On Tue, 2/22/11, Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg wrote:
From: Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: An Article of Interest
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday,
Hello .. Steve??
I was in the midst of replying to an earlier comment you offered, when I read
this.. Best click cancel' as I clearly don't know who you are very well The
internet does create fuzzy bed-fellows--so-to-speak. Clearly, whatever
comments i was about to make would be useless.
, 2011, 11:40 PM
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Kristy McClain healthyplay1@... wrote:
Hello .. Steve??
Â
I was in the midst of replying to an earlier comment you offered, when I
read this.. Best click cancel' as I clearly don't know who you are very
well The internet does
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, February 22, 2011, 9:02 PM
Kristy,
You forgot it is promiscuous in the orgyhouse.
Anthony
--- On Wed, 23/2/11, Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: An Article
Anthony, Ed, Steve,
Reading your comments on this, and the complete article, I was reminded of a
difficult time in my life, and thought I'd offer a few further comments which
are partly cathartic for me, if I may. As I read Stuart Lachs' article, I
was interested in his comments on
artist is practicing his/her movements by themselves. In karate they call these
excersises 'kata'...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Kristy McClain healthyplay1@... wrote:
Hi Steve,
Â
I am learning Tai Chi as part of a mindfulness and extension of a spiritual
practice. Question?Â
:06 AM
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Kristy McClain healthyplay1@... wrote:
Hi Steve,
Â
I am learning Tai Chi as part of a mindfulness and extension of a spiritual
practice. Question? Is Tai Chi considered a martial art like karate, or
no? Are karate and kung fu
engaged in the form of the Master that are unable to accept or seeing anything
or anyone that is not in the form of the Master!. They don't know yet that the
Master is in the breathe!.
Best
Mayka
--- On Mon, 21/2/11, Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Kristy McClain
for ourselves. Its up to us to decide how long we want to be
potty-trained..;)
Thanks.. k
--- On Mon, 2/21/11, Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: An Article of Interest
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday
.
Anthony
--- On Mon, 21/2/11, Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: An Article of Interest
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, 21 February, 2011, 4:11 PM
Anthony, Ed, Steve,
Reading your comments
@yahoogroups.com, Kristy McClain healthyplay1@... wrote:
Hi Steve,
Â
There are many ideas in the article you post. In light of your discussion
with Mike on a different thread about zen sects and religion, and the
clipped paragraph below, how is all this different from a cult?Â
Â
Hi Steve,
I am learning Tai Chi as part of a mindfulness and extension of a spiritual
practice. Question? Is Tai Chi considered a martial art like karate, or no?
Are karate and kung fu related?
Any tips on how to improve one's focus and concentration while practicing--as a
beginner?
to intimate relations with the teacher,
which statement will be shown to the teacher, who understands that his/her
position is in jeopardy if he/she violates a student's wishes. ...
--ED
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Kristy McClain healthyplay1@... wrote:
Hi Anthony,
From a logical
no idea what Gempo is up to - or why...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Kristy McClain healthyplay1@... wrote:
Bill and all,
Â
Since we just had a discussion about sex between Teachers and students, I
had to pass this along. Bill-- this is getting to be daytime
drama-quality.Â
know what they say, Big Mind, Little .
Mike
From: Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 18 February, 2011 4:38:05
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Sex The Enlightened Ones
Bill and all,
Since we just had a discussion about sex between
Hi Steve,
There are many ideas in the article you post. In light of your discussion with
Mike on a different thread about zen sects and religion, and the clipped
paragraph below, how is all this different from a cult?
That parallel was one of the things that kept me at a distance-- to
to
denote a system of ritual practices. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Kristy McClain healthyplay1@... wrote:
Hi Steve,
There are many ideas in the article you post. In light of your discussion with
Mike on a different thread about zen sects and religion
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, February 18, 2011, 3:12 PM
Kristy,
My proposal is still valid, but with one more condition: the non awakening
behavior should not affect marital relationships.
Anthony
--- On Fri, 18/2/11, Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com wrote:
From
but we don't like it...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Kristy McClain healthyplay1@... wrote:
Bill,
Â
We know what's up.. we just don't know why.
Â
Kristy
--- On Fri, 2/18/11, Bill! BillSmart@... wrote:
From: Bill! BillSmart@...
Subject: [Zen] Re: Sex The Enlightened Ones
that has been recruiting your religion's members.
...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Kristy McClain healthyplay1@... wrote:
Ed,
Â
I guess I don't rely on definitions in the same way, when discussing a topic
here. I don't worry about being perfectly precise. I understand a cult
, Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com wrote:
- On Fri, 2/18/11, Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg wrote:
From: Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Sex The Enlightened Ones
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, February 18, 2011, 3:12 PM
Kristy,
My
Kristy,
What a relief. I have an ally.
Anthony
--- On Thu, 17/2/11, Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Experience Merit
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, 17 February, 2011, 2:00 PM
Steve
Anthony,
I can't believe you wrote this. A complete oxymoron...k
--- On Thu, 2/17/11, Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg wrote:
From: Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg
Subject: Re: [Zen] TNH in Thailand
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, February 17, 2011, 2:51 AM
ED,
If all
Bill and all,
Since we just had a discussion about sex between Teachers and students, I had
to pass this along. Bill-- this is getting to be daytime drama-quality. Will
Gempo be on Dancing with the Stars next?... k
Dear Kanzeon Zen Center Members and Friends,
As you are no doubt aware,
says, oxymoron is a figure of speech that combines contradictory terms.
I don't see mine contains contradictory terms.
Anthony
--- On Thu, 17/2/11, Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] TNH in Thailand
To: Zen_Forum
it;)~ k
--- On Thu, 2/17/11, SteveW eugnostos2...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: SteveW eugnostos2...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Zen] Re: Experience Merit
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, February 17, 2011, 11:16 AM
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Kristy McClain healthyplay1@... wrote
transfer his knowledge. There may be a better way which I don't know.
Anthony
--- On Thu, 2/17/11, Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Sex The Enlightened Ones
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday
Steve,
Anthony doesn't argue. He reminds me of the first class I enrolled in after my
accident. Inward Bound. The professor used an older text: Beyond Health
and Normality: Exploration of Exceptional Psychological Well-Being. We had
weekly classes for a month.. and then spent six weeks
Hi Steve,
Actually, I have no interest at all in the egoic power exchange in
relationships. This is off-topic for this group, but I welcome the opportunity
to discuss this with you . What did fascinate me , and the reason I brought
D/s into this thread was how Sally K described the guru
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Steve,
Thank you for bring this up. I have been working on an e-mail to Anthony, (and
all here), on this topic, but i am behind on mail. I will catch up and respond
to JM and Mayka, as well as to add my comments to the article I attach below
later. An interesting article in Trycycle this
we? This is
fascinating stuff! *s* I do indeed have more comments, but i have to dash to
a meeting. Look forward to others thoughts!
Be well..
Kristy
From: Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Antinomianism
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, February 14
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Kristy McClain healthyplay1@... wrote:
Anthony, Steve and all,
~ Switching gears to the article attached below~
In my translation of the Bhagavad Gita, it says we have total control over
our actions, but no control over the fruits of our actions.
Anthony, what
and then guides him gently
through some what I call zen-style pain managment.
...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Kristy McClain healthyplay1@... wrote:
Anthony,
Â
So zen is anything not dualistic. I'm not a zen scholar, and the way I
practice zen includes compassionate service
and think it over.
Mayka
--- On Sat, 12/2/11, Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] visualization
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, 12 February, 2011, 9:27
Hi Mayka,
All of us has.. Since i
Hi JM,
Sounds very interesting.. I would love to learn about his work. You are
welcome to share this off-list if you prefer. Have a great weekend.. k
--- On Sat, 2/12/11, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 chan.j...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 chan.j...@gmail.com
Subject:
Audrey,
I can recommend a couple of books that can help..
(1) Zen and the Art of Making a Living-- Laurence Boldt
It offers many tools to help clarify your purpose, talents and skills as you
find what is right for you, in the context of your own values. Its a
workbook. Probably
Anthony,
So zen is anything not dualistic. I'm not a zen scholar, and the way I
practice zen includes compassionate service, and ethical conduct. So,
technically, my zen practice is not authentic zen.
Oh well.
I first learned about visualization froma book called Creative
Visualization
14082069325.
Thank you for the opportunity to share.
JM
Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can
http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com
http://www.heartchan.org
On 2/9/2011 11:34 AM, Kristy McClain wrote:
Hi JM,
Thanks for posting this! Very interesting. As a westerner practicing zazen
on the ground in this place, and I go right into my meditation. It is
kind of weird, but for some reason I do not get attacked by my thoughts as much
this way, and also I seem to have deeper experience this way.
Brett
http://www.pbase.com/brett1963
--- On Thu, 2/10/11, Kristy McClain healthypl
Hi Mel,
Reading your words below reminds me why I've never looked for a guru. There
are many reasons, some of which I am writing in a post to Anthony , along with
an article. But perhaps the problem lies in the seeking itself. Looking for
answers, security, guidance, protection.. Is a
Hi JM,
Thanks for posting this! Very interesting. As a westerner practicing zazen,
there is often a difference in training, and its always helpful to learn how
its done in other countries and traditions. I was very intrigued by the
chi-flow guidelines you mention here. Do you have many
top to bottom) on this page.
The important thing is that you are comfortable, you are not straining to keep
your balance and that you are in a good posture for opening up your hips to
promote 'belly breathing'.
...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Kristy McClain healthyplay1@... wrote
Hi Mel,
*chuckles*
Thanks for your frank appraisal on this. You bring up many good points.
thanks for mentioning the stool.. I hadn't thought about that. With the group,
I will be working with, that won't work for all of them, but its is a real
possibility for some. For those who can,
From: Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, February 9, 2011 3:41:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Zen] Aging and zazen(to Kristy/list)
Hi Mel,
*chuckles*
Thanks for your frank appraisal on this. You bring up many good points.
thanks for mentioning
level am able to be mindful and detach from it. It sounds like
it's
a duality but it isn't. They are two sides to the one. Am always available
by
email or cell -just email me privately. Best of luck! Deborah
taomtnsa...@yahoo.com
From: Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com
To: Zen_Forum
Dana,
First, I want to thank you for your prior post about what to do when a
standard sitting practice feels stale. Very helpful~
I normally would not comment on this one, as I don't have an opinion either
way, but your emotional vestment in this does interest me. In my training,
Bill, Anthony,
I wondered if you, or others here, can recommend equipment or furniture (chairs
/benches and such), that has worked well for people who can no longer, (or
never have) been able to use a safu in a traditional sitting posture. For
those with less flexability, or have
done both sitting and in my chair, I have found that either way
is good, but I guess it depends on the person.
Brett
http://www.pbase.com/brett1963
--- On Tue, 2/8/11, Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Aging and zazen
and I do not seem to have
cramping as much. I think for me the most important thing is to find what
position makes you the most comfortable, and then go with that.
Brett
http://www.pbase.com/brett1963
--- On Tue, 2/8/11, Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Kristy McClain
McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Aging and zazen
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 9 February, 2011, 7:09 AM
Thanks Brett and Anthony. Question? Are you placing a safu on the chair when
you sit
, Kristy McClain healthyplay1@... wrote:
Hi Bill,
Â
I've read your posts for some time, and I think I understand  this, to a
degree. But I sense that the zen you practice is more than just a
sitting practice of zazen. You often discuss and share your
understanding ofÂ
Hi Ed,
I initially read this in the context of spiritual awareness. But perhaps that
isn't your question. Personal development / self-inquiry / spiritual growth is
the new-age self-help. I have found zen-inspired centers in many other
areans. Often, they include some zen philosophy and
Gentlemen,
People are not so uni-dimensional, or easily classified. I think this is a fine
game-- like Clue. But trying to sort this way obscures clarity. Why bother
discussing illusion and duality, and then assert these ideas and definitions,
unless indeed it is a means to better
I love poetry. Thanks, Chris. ~ k
--- On Sat, 2/5/11, Chris Austin-Lane ch...@austin-lane.net wrote:
From: Chris Austin-Lane ch...@austin-lane.net
Subject: [Zen] Inside and outside.
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, February 5, 2011, 10:02 AM
I
@yahoogroups.com, Kristy McClain healthyplay1@... wrote:
*bows*
Â
I can't offer anything useful. But beware behavioral scientists. They
skew the results. Steve.. you are so wise in so many ways..  As you
point out at times.. is it, -Â or not, illusory?
Â
 What others thinkÂ
Hi Bill,
You often refer to the zen you practice, as in the following:
To answer your question, anything that involves observing does not sound like
zen to me. In the zen I practice there are no dualities such as
observer/observed (subject/object)...Bill!
Would you be willing to share
Steve,
This brings smiles to my heart. It sounds like even more than a soulmate ,
or one's split-apart:;) I am very happy for you, and may all karmic blessings
follow you both...k
Hi Kristy. My relationship with Girlfriend is not something that
just happened. Its karmic. As an
*bows*
I can't offer anything useful. But beware behavioral scientists. They skew
the results. Steve.. you are so wise in so many ways.. As you point out at
times.. is it, - or not, illusory?
What others think isn't that important.
What you think--- is.. ~ k
p.s. Bill may
*s*
Gotta luv them scientisys..k
--- On Thu, 2/3/11, Dave P wookielife...@yahoo.ca wrote:
From: Dave P wookielife...@yahoo.ca
Subject: [Zen] Re: Spock?
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, February 3, 2011, 10:07 PM
Well, we are talking fiction, of course :)
From what I
Hi Anthony,
I've heard about this... I've also heard that if everyone in the world sat in
a circle, and placed their problems in the center-- most would take their own
problems back. Hope all is well with you. ~ k
--- On Wed, 2/2/11, Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg wrote:
From: Anthony
Hi Bill,
I agree. Lets get drunk and party. ~ k
--- On Wed, 2/2/11, Bill! billsm...@hhs1963.org wrote:
From: Bill! billsm...@hhs1963.org
Subject: Re: [Zen] Is Chan Buddhist?
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 2, 2011, 5:05 PM
ED,
I disagree - not becuase I
.
Anthony
--- On Thu, 3/2/11, Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Eightfold Path
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, 3 February, 2011, 9:16 AM
Hi Anthony,
I've heard about this... I've also heard
, trying to be wholesome is more likely to make you miss
seeing the unwholesome parts of your own reality and thereby become more likely
to be blind to the harm you are causing.
--Chris
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com wrote:
Hi Bill,
I agree
drink. How about Mao Tai (60%), instead of the
boring Jack Daniel.
Anthony
--- On Thu, 3/2/11, Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] Is Chan Buddhist?
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, 3 February, 2011, 10:35 AM
Brett,
I completely agree. Something did occur to me as I read your post. I think
its the attachment to a book or teacher or lineage or whatever, that can bring
the division. My experience and observations tell me that most do begin their
journey by doing some reading, meeting with a
is
completely black and nothing is completely white.
Mayka
--- On Mon, 24/1/11, Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] Is Chan Buddhist?
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, 24 January, 2011, 8:28
Brett,
I
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