Re: [Zen] Compassion Research

On 9/4/2013 8:37 PM, tri...@yahoo.com.au wrote: > ..."Buddhist concept of self-compassion"... Whatever that may be thought to be, it is not compassion, nor does it even sound particularly Buddhist. Please don't mistake 'New Age' feel good/self love/self help BS for Buddhism, despite the pletho

Re: [Zen] Compassion Research

Oh Bill it was a joke AND if I knew it was from you I would have gladly filled it out. BUT what do they think we have that everyone else doesn't? "They" just believe and act on their emotions and 'We" just observe our emotions (mostly) and try not to act on the destructive ones! On Thu, Sep 5, 2

Re: [Zen] Compassion Research

screw you (just kidding) On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 8:37 PM, wrote: > ** > > > I am a post-grad (clinical psychology) student researching the > relationship between a Buddhist concept of self-compassion and mood states. > Please help me by taking 8 minutes or so to fill in my survey. Kind regards.

Re: [Zen] Compassion Research

Larry, The survey, like your post below, is voluntary; but the survey, unlike your post, is anonymous. ...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, larry maher wrote: > > screw you (just kidding) > > > On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 8:37 PM, wrote: > > > ** > > > > > > I am a post-grad (clinical psy

[Zen] Compassion Research

I am a post-grad (clinical psychology) student researching the relationship between a Buddhist concept of self-compassion and mood states. Please help me by taking 8 minutes or so to fill in my survey. Kind regards.   (survey is anonymous and voluntary)   Survey link: https://

[Zen] compassion for all

   mike... i was at tai chi and another tai ch...ier...a lady over 70 plus was horrified that i felt compassion for the killer...  she's a conservative catholic having bred 6 kiddies..thank her for the over population of the world.  i question did she at any stage ask herself was she worthy

Re: [Zen] compassion stretches across the globe it's not a competition either

Merle, Thinking caring thoughts IS NOT compassion. It doesn't help anyone. Compassion is actually helping people or animals alleviate suffering in the REAL world. You are just massaging your own ego to think otherwise Edgar On Apr 17, 2013, at 7:38 PM, Merle Lester wrote: > > edgar

[Zen] compassion stretches across the globe it's not a competition either

 edgar... do i have to prove to you what i do?.. you can do what ever you like and be as compassionate as you wish with your immediate surroundings.. however compassion extends to all living creatures.. do they really have to be within sight of you..?...  i taught at high school level art ages 1

[Zen] Compassion and zen

 compassion and zen > > > >i do not believe to have compassion we must also judge. > > >it is freely given unconditionally and in universal love. > > > any other way it is not truly compassion > > >hence we must care and share for others who are less fortunate than ourselves > > >any thoughts

[Zen] Compassion

Compassion is not just feeling sorry for someone or being generous as many believe. This is a much better definition: ...Bill!

Re: [Zen] compassion

  not the words mike... compassion is beyond words...it just ismerle >..it is much better to sit silently and be the experience those words evoke. What were you trying to teach me here exactly? Mike

[Zen] compassion

 not the words mike... compassion is beyond words...it just ismerle Hi ED, Zen has always been suspect in Buddhist circles for being a bit well, mean when it comes to compassion. I think it's human to feel compassion for people, in exactly the same way as defined by the examples you ga

[Zen] compassion

 i was under the impression that zen was the nitty gritty...all this chatter...is this zen?  enlightenment ... compassion all intertwined  chattering and endless mind games to prove who knows more than who and who is compassionate and who is not... does this achieve enlightenment? comp

[Zen] compassion, universe, etc

ED, I don't know what your latest posting was about exactly in relation to what message I had left on the forum but you may be complicating the issue more than necessary. I'll have to agree with Mayka here concerning yourself...too much reading, too much thinking, and ZERO experience. Being so,

Re: [Zen] compassion, universe, etc

Here's what I have found on the Internet concerning the heart: Definitions of heart on the Web: * the locus of feelings and intuitions; "in your heart you know it is true"; "her story would melt your bosom" * the hollow muscular organ located behind the sternum and between the lungs; its

Re: [Zen] compassion, universe, etc

Bill and All, Consider the two statements in Mayka's message below. There are dozens of question I ask *myself* about them, the first of which might be: I understand the heart as an organ that pumps blood. I understand that the limbic system, which is the seat of feelings and emotion in the b

Re: [Zen] compassion, universe, etc

Correction:   Oops,  I clicked the wrong word over the spellcheker in previous post.  I meant: "No one can steal the heart as we all have it in us.  We can only be awakened in the heart".   Mayka --- On Thu, 21/4/11, Maria Lopez wrote: From: Maria Lopez Subject: Re: [Zen]

Re: [Zen] compassion, universe, etc

heart as we all have it in us!.  We can only be awakening in the heart.   Mayka     --- On Thu, 21/4/11, Mel wrote: From: Mel Subject: [Zen] compassion, universe, etc To: "zen forum" Date: Thursday, 21 April, 2011, 11:07   My thoughts on the latest issu

[Zen] compassion, universe, etc

My thoughts on the latest issues   COMPASSION AND ZEN   Compassion for what or who exactly? Compassion has no hard and fast rules, or descriptions. Do you show compassion for a habitual thief? How about a serial rapist or murderer? How does this compassion look like in

Re: [Zen] Compassion for Others Benefits Self

--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Maria Lopez wrote: > > Hi ED; I wonder why the American people need always from statistics, testing in the laboratory things that in the rest of the world are obvious. Hi Maria, it takes all types! > Compassion understood as the empathy towards any living b

RE: [Zen] Compassion for Others Benefits Self

with the same equanimity women as men. As the old say addressed to everyone the same: "It's in the giving that we receive " What a silly thing to make distintions here!. Mayka --- On Thu, 19/8/10, ED wrote: From: ED Subject: [Zen] Compassion for Others Benefits Sel

Re: [Zen] Compassion for Others Benefits Self

old say addressed to everyone the same: "It's in the giving that we receive  " What a silly thing to make distintions here!. Mayka     --- On Thu, 19/8/10, ED wrote: From: ED Subject: [Zen] Compassion for Others Benefits Self To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, 19

[Zen] Compassion for Others Benefits Self

Study Shows that Women's Compassion for Others Benefits the SelfAugust 18th, 2010 in Medicine & Health / Psychology & Psychiatry (PhysOrg.com) -- The Dalai Lama holds that compassion -- concern for the well-being of others -- leads to happiness. Now a new study ha

RE: [Zen] Compassion

Hey Jody;   By the way, that one that walk away while the friend was grieving perhaps went away to put his own mask of oxigeno and got glued on it; he...!    Mayka     --- On Wed, 4/8/10, Maria Lopez wrote: From: Maria Lopez Subject: RE: [Zen] Compassion To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date

RE: [Zen] Compassion

nlightened is going to be switch on/off and find myself guiding the "Holy TNH!.    Warm embrace Mayka        --- On Wed, 4/8/10, Jody W. Ianuzzi wrote: From: Jody W. Ianuzzi Subject: RE: [Zen] Compassion To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 4 August, 2010, 21:00   Hel

RE: [Zen] Compassion

Hello Mayka, Your message really disturbed me. I think the lack of compassion you found in the meditation groups that you attended is terrible. I have a good friend whose boyfriend calls himself a compassionate Buddhist but when my friend's good friend died she sobbed for three hours and he just

[Zen] Compassion

Talking about compassion, here I paste a first video from the five of them for your all enjoyment.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=armP8TfS9Is   Mayka

Re: [Zen] Compassion

JM,   Be and let be, so I go to an orgyhouse, I go looting, burning, taking drugs, and will accept all.   Anthony --- On Mon, 2/8/10, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 wrote: From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 Subject: [Zen] Compassion To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, 2 August, 2010, 2:41 AM

[Zen] Compassion

Dear All, What we teach in our school is to accept all form, because they are all manifestations of the universe. Especially the internal forms, existing in our mind as theories, concepts, logic, terminologies, idealism based on language. Forms are all transient, relative, and there for a reas

Re: [Zen] Compassion

You forget everything of self down to the most subtle self undisclosed in sutra. But to others you appear to remember everything, omniscience. path Destruction of the self down to very subtle self grasping to which if you did not know of its existence you could not achieve freedom from it. Budd

Re: [Zen] Compassion

In the path that you follow, do *you* forget anything? And, what is your path? --ED --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu wrote: > > ED, > > At least he forgets gravity pulls his body down the earth. And others. > > Anthony > > Joe, > > > > You keep pointing your finger at bill, w

Re: [Zen] Compassion

eep pointing your finger at bill, which leads me to sympathize with > 'Bill'. He is always talking about the ultmate truth, forgetting the > conventional. >   > Anthony > > --- On Mon, 26/7/10, maitreya003 wrote: > > > From: maitreya003 > Subject:

Re: [Zen] Compassion

ED,   At least he forgets gravity pulls his body down the earth. And others.   Anthony --- On Mon, 26/7/10, ED wrote: From: ED Subject: Re: [Zen] Compassion To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, 26 July, 2010, 6:59 PM   In my observation, Bill is "forgetting" not

Re: [Zen] Compassion

In my observation, Bill is "forgetting" nothing. --ED --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu wrote: > > Joe, > > You keep pointing your finger at bill, which leads me to sympathize with 'Bill'. He is always talking about the ultmate truth, forgetting the conventional. > > Anthony

Re: [Zen] Compassion

Joe,   You keep pointing your finger at bill, which leads me to sympathize with 'Bill'. He is always talking about the ultmate truth, forgetting the conventional.   Anthony --- On Mon, 26/7/10, maitreya003 wrote: From: maitreya003 Subject: Re: [Zen] Compassion To: Zen_Forum@yahoo

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ation. I didnt mean to get long winded sorry about that. Joe --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu wrote: > > Joe, >   > What are the criteria for ultimate truths and false truths? >   > Anthony > > --- On Fri, 23/7/10, maitreya003 wrote: > > >

Re: [Zen] Compassion

Joe,   What are the criteria for ultimate truths and false truths?   Anthony --- On Fri, 23/7/10, maitreya003 wrote: From: maitreya003 Subject: Re: [Zen] Compassion To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, 23 July, 2010, 11:28 AM   Buddha claimed ultimate truth and warned of hells

Re: [Zen] Compassion

mate truths and there are false >> truths.  Those who hold false truths declair ignorance as truth. >> joe >> >> --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu wrote: >>> >>> ED, >>> Â >>> If you claim yours is the ultimate truth, you

Re: [Zen] Compassion

om, Anthony Wu wrote: >> >> ED, >> Â >> If you claim yours is the ultimate truth, you qualify for a Taliban. >> Â >> Anthony >> >> --- On Wed, 21/7/10, ED wrote: >> >> >> From: ED >> Subject: Re: [Zen] Compassion >> To:

Re: [Zen] Compassion

;   > If you claim yours is the ultimate truth, you qualify for a Taliban. >   > Anthony > > --- On Wed, 21/7/10, ED wrote: > > > From: ED > Subject: Re: [Zen] Compassion > To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com > Date: Wednesday, 21 July, 2010, 10:06 PM > > >

Re: [Zen] Compassion

ervant, so all he does is clock in everyday, and clock out right away. Therefore you won't see him.   Anthony --- On Thu, 22/7/10, ED wrote: From: ED Subject: Re: [Zen] Compassion To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, 22 July, 2010, 12:14 PM   Or a neocon? --ED -

Re: [Zen] Compassion

ervant, so all he does is clock in everyday, and clock out right away. Therefore you won't see him.   Anthony --- On Thu, 22/7/10, ED wrote: From: ED Subject: Re: [Zen] Compassion To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, 22 July, 2010, 12:14 PM   Or a neocon? --ED -

Re: [Zen] Compassion

Or a neocon? --ED --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu wrote: > > ED, > > If you claim yours is the ultimate truth, you qualify for a Taliban. > > Anthony Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk

Re: [Zen] Compassion

ED,   If you claim yours is the ultimate truth, you qualify for a Taliban.   Anthony --- On Wed, 21/7/10, ED wrote: From: ED Subject: Re: [Zen] Compassion To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 21 July, 2010, 10:06 PM   Why "don't claim", if that's the wa

Re: [Zen] Compassion

Why "don't claim", if that's the way one sees it? --ED --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu wrote: > > Artie, > > It is OK to have different beliefs, as long as you don't claim yours is the final truth. > > Anthony Current Book Discussion: an

Re: [Zen] Compassion

Artie,   It is OK to have different beliefs, as long as you don't claim yours is the final truth.   Anthony --- On Sat, 17/7/10, roloro1557 wrote: From: roloro1557 Subject: Re: [Zen] Compassion To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, 17 July, 2010, 10:45 PM   Hi Anthony,

Re: [Zen] Compassion

Hi Anthony, No, I don't believe in karma and rebirth, at least not in the sense that buddhists do. Artie --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu wrote: > Do you believe in karma and rebirth? Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you rece

Re: [Zen] Compassion

Subject: Re: [Zen] Compassion To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, 16 July, 2010, 8:04 PM   Hi Anthony :-) I agree whole-heartedly :-) Nothing comes by birth. Sometimes through circumstances things just go terribly, terribly wrong. And I don't mean that lightly. People are hurt terrib

Re: [Zen] Compassion

Hi Anthony :-) I agree whole-heartedly :-) Nothing comes by birth. Sometimes through circumstances things just go terribly, terribly wrong. And I don't mean that lightly. People are hurt terribly in the process. This is reality, a very harsh reality. Piling on more wrong and harshness does no o

Re: [Zen] Compassion

egime, knock the brain out of their parents' head. Everything is acquired. Nothing comes by birth.   Anthony --- On Thu, 15/7/10, roloro1557 wrote: From: roloro1557 Subject: [Zen] Compassion To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, 15 July, 2010, 4:58 PM   I am acquainted with

RE: [Zen] Compassion

Good Day Bill, It is true that not much of the Chinese Chan had a chance to be introduced to the West, because Communist China destroy most of the resources since 1945. Taiwan was poor until about 20 years ago. Spiritual concerns grow mostly in the 80's in Taiwan. I signed up to around 5 di

RE: [Zen] Compassion

Kathy, I talked to a friend of mine about this and he gave me a little different perspective. He reminded me that zen in the West has been very heavily influenced by Japanese and Korean zen, both of which are expressions of very macho cultures. The West also is pretty macho so it was an easy tra

RE: [Zen] Compassion

Kathy, Okay - now I'm seriously going to try to address your question. It's an interesting question. I thought a lot about it and really can't come up with the type of philosophical or warm-'n-fuzzy quote you're probably looking for. I know zen just doesn't put a lot of value on philosophy,

RE: [Zen] Compassion

Donald, That's a pretty good one. It's not exactly traditionally zen, but from a Tibetan Buddhist. It's a similar thought coming from the opposite perspective to a quote on compassion attributed to a Bodhisattva who's often quoted in Western culture: "Do unto others as you would have them do un

RE: [Zen] Compassion

How about.? 1. "Get a Life!" - anonymous 2. "Poor, poor, pitiful me." - Warren Zevon 3. "If you're scared dude, stay home!" - Pizza Dude Kathy's original straight-line was: Does anyone have three or so short, but poignant quotes regarding compassion? Something from a great t

Re: [Zen] Compassion

Kathy, I understand fully how you trying to "slip" through. Here is one I used a lot. >From Dalai Lama, "Compassion is the undertaking to share the karma of others." from one of his books on Compassion. I don't remember the title. Namaste, Donald Kathy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[Zen] Compassion

Does anyone have three or so short, but poignant quotes regarding compassion? Something from a great teacher or the sutras or like that. I read alot of Zen and Buddhist books, but can't remember quotes (I can't tell a joke, either; it could be five words long and I'd still screw up the punch lin