Re: [Zen] Re: Christian Zen

2011-03-25 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
ural > > > > powers tho : ) > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > -- > > > > *From:* Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 > > > > *To:* Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com <mailto:

[Zen] Re: Christian Zen

2011-03-25 Thread Bill!
> > substance is the samebut the form is somewhat different (a British > > > > understatement). I still like the bit you said having supernatural > > > > powers tho : ) > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > ---

Re: [Zen] Re: Christian Zen

2011-03-25 Thread siska_cen
Hi Ed, I suppose that should apply to individuals too? ;-) Siska -Original Message- From: "ED" Sender: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 15:56:03 To: Reply-To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Zen] Re: Christian Zen Hello siska, You are quite righ

Re: [Zen] Re: Christian Zen

2011-03-25 Thread ChrisAustinLane
understanding that the heart of both point to the same thing, even tho the >> practices might seem to be somewhat different. >> >> Mike >> >> From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 >> To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com >> Sent: Sat, 26 March, 2011 0:00:08 &g

Re: [Zen] Re: Christian Zen

2011-03-25 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
0:00:08 *Subject:* Re: [Zen] Re: Christian Zen Yes Guy, zen is a derived of Chan. In the form they are very close. In the formless, they are different. JM Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com http://www.heartchan.org On 3/25/2011 5:12 AM, Guy wrote: Donald, Wh

[Zen] Re: Christian Zen

2011-03-25 Thread ED
Hello siska, You are quite right. In any particular society, if someone points to a putative negative quirk in itself, then it must be the case that all societies possess that quirk too. But, if in any society, a putative negative quirk in pointed to in some other society, then it is their's a

Re: [Zen] Re: Christian Zen

2011-03-25 Thread siska_cen
Hi Mayka, Thanks for the link! Siska -Original Message- From: Maria Lopez Sender: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 14:13:54 To: Reply-To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Christian Zen Hi Siska:   I can't make comments as never heard before this A

Re: [Zen] Re: Christian Zen

2011-03-25 Thread siska_cen
experience for financial benefits? Siska -Original Message- From: "ED" Sender: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 13:56:54 To: Reply-To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Zen] Re: Christian Zen Siska, It is interesting to note the difference in mind-set here in

Re: [Zen] Re: Christian Zen

2011-03-25 Thread mike brown
art of both point to the same thing, even tho the practices might seem to be somewhat different. Mike From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, 26 March, 2011 0:00:08 Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Christian Zen   Yes Guy, zen is a

Re: [Zen] Re: Christian Zen

2011-03-25 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Hi Bill, Sorry for not being clear. These are preliminary anyway. Do suggest what you prefer... There will be two programs arriving to one Christian area. 1. There will be advertising to people who suffer from health issues. They will be directed to learn chan meditation, which has

Re: [Zen] Re: Christian Zen

2011-03-25 Thread Chris Austin-Lane
wn wrote: > > >> Thanks JM, > > >> Wow, that all sounds so alien (no pun implied...) to me. I've always > > >> been taught that you shouldn't regret the past (it's gone and so > > >> unchangeable) nor worry about the future (it's an

Re: [Zen] Re: Christian Zen

2011-03-25 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
-- > > *From:* Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 > > *To:* Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com> > > *Sent:* Fri, 25 March, 2011 15:10:45 > > *Subject:* Re: [Zen] Re: Christian Zen > > > > Hi Mike, Even Osho said, Ch

Re: [Zen] Re: Christian Zen

2011-03-25 Thread Maria Lopez
019&t=180&sid=16cf15a5378657d6a1ca231e31e4bdaa   Mayka --- On Fri, 25/3/11, siska_...@yahoo.com wrote: From: siska_...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Christian Zen To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, 25 March, 2011, 13:01   Hi Bill, > I've never heard of any Chri

[Zen] Re: Christian Zen

2011-03-25 Thread ED
Siska, It is interesting to note the difference in mind-set here in the West vs. in East Asia. Here one experiences 'no-self' and turns it into a financial enterprise; whereas in East Asia one just keeps mum. --ED --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, siska_cen@... wrote: > > Hi Bill, > > > I'v

[Zen] Re: Christian Zen

2011-03-25 Thread ED
JMJM, Jesus might agree with you, but G-d or Buddha would not. ;-) --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming wrote: > > Yes, Mike, you are special. So is everyone else. :-)

Re: [Zen] Re: Christian Zen

2011-03-25 Thread siska_cen
Fri, 25 Mar 2011 09:47:58 To: Reply-To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Zen] Re: Christian Zen JMJM, This is not what I thought you meant, although I still might interested in this activity also. What kind of meditation are you intending to teach/recommend? Christianity already has lots of

[Zen] Re: Christian Zen

2011-03-25 Thread Guy
> > *From:* Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 > > *To:* Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com > > *Sent:* Fri, 25 March, 2011 15:10:45 > > *Subject:* Re: [Zen] Re: Christian Zen > > > > Hi Mike, Even Osho said, Chan com

Re: [Zen] Re: Christian Zen

2011-03-25 Thread Maria Lopez
On Fri, 25/3/11, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 wrote: From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Christian Zen To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, 25 March, 2011, 4:40   Excellent, Bill..  Now here is my preliminary plan.. We will launch Adword in April with keywords suc

[Zen] Re: Christian Zen

2011-03-25 Thread Bill!
JMJM, This is not what I thought you meant, although I still might interested in this activity also. What kind of meditation are you intending to teach/recommend? Christianity already has lots of meditative practices. An example is the Catholic ritual of praying using Rosary Beads. This invo

Re: [Zen] Re: Christian Zen

2011-03-25 Thread Maria Lopez
ough.    Mayka      Mayka --- On Fri, 25/3/11, Bill! wrote: From: Bill! Subject: [Zen] Re: Christian Zen To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, 25 March, 2011, 0:36   JMJM, I would be interested in participating in this. I was brought up as a Christian and have gone through a lot of

Re: [Zen] Re: Christian Zen

2011-03-24 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
* Fri, 25 March, 2011 15:10:45 *Subject:* Re: [Zen] Re: Christian Zen Hi Mike, Even Osho said, Chan combines the essence of Tao and Buddhism. Yes our practice is Taoist. Our words are Buddhist. After all, Buddha had 49 years to describe the various stages of his journey in detail. When com

Re: [Zen] Re: Christian Zen

2011-03-24 Thread mike brown
understatement). I still like the bit you said having supernatural powers tho : ) Mike From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, 25 March, 2011 15:10:45 Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Christian Zen   Hi Mike,  Even Osho said, Chan combines the

Re: [Zen] Re: Christian Zen

2011-03-24 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
ious as I know it looks. Mike *From:* Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 *To:* Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Fri, 25 March, 2011 13:40:34 *Subject:* Re: [Zen] Re: Christian Zen Excellent, Bill.. Now here is my preliminary plan.. We will launch Adword in April with keywords such as depression,

Re: [Zen] Re: Christian Zen

2011-03-24 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Taoist than Buddhist sometimes. Mike *From:* Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 *To:* Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Fri, 25 March, 2011 14:33:43 *Subject:* Re: [Zen] Re: Christian Zen Mike, No one told me what. One is from Pureland an

Re: [Zen] Re: Christian Zen

2011-03-24 Thread mike brown
Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, 25 March, 2011 14:38:27 Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Christian Zen   BTW, Mike.  We, meaning you and I and ED all have so called "Supernatural power".  These are just power we were born with,  Nothing super about them. FYI.  there was a professor from Princeton sai

Re: [Zen] Re: Christian Zen

2011-03-24 Thread mike brown
ust say, your school sounds more Taoist than Buddhist sometimes. Mike From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, 25 March, 2011 14:33:43 Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Christian Zen   Mike,  No one told me what.  One is from Pureland a

Re: [Zen] Re: Christian Zen

2011-03-24 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
-- *From:* Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 *To:* Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Fri, 25 March, 2011 13:40:34 *Subject:* Re: [Zen] Re: Christian Zen Excellent, Bill.. Now here is my preliminary plan.. We will launch Adword in April with keywords such as depression, stress, insomnia, e

Re: [Zen] Re: Christian Zen

2011-03-24 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
ral powers? Btw, this question is not as facetious as I know it looks. Mike *From:* Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 *To:* Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Fri, 25 March, 2011 13:40:34 *Subject:* Re: [Zen] Re: Christian Zen

Re: [Zen] Re: Christian Zen

2011-03-24 Thread mike brown
, 25 March, 2011 13:40:34 Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Christian Zen   Excellent, Bill..  Now here is my preliminary plan.. We will launch Adword in April with keywords such as depression, stress, insomnia, etc. to get people to learn meditation.  At the same time, we will be starting a movement o

Re: [Zen] Re: Christian Zen

2011-03-24 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Excellent, Bill.. Now here is my preliminary plan.. We will launch Adword in April with keywords such as depression, stress, insomnia, etc. to get people to learn meditation. At the same time, we will be starting a movement on Facebook titled, "Meditate First" = "whether you are Chrisitan, B

[Zen] Re: Christian Zen

2011-03-24 Thread Bill!
...another book THE MUSTARD SEED by Bhagwan Shree Rashnees (Osho) would be very worthwhile reading...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 wrote: > > Good Morning Steve and anyone who is interested to help, > > I wanted to incorporate a zen way to deepen the

[Zen] Re: Christian Zen

2011-03-24 Thread Bill!
JMJM, I would be interested in participating in this. I was brought up as a Christian and have gone through a lot of Bible study. I agree wholeheartedly with your premise. If you haven't already read it, I'd suggest you find a copy of a small book called THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO ZEN. It's th

Re: [Zen] Re: Christian Zen

2011-03-24 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Ah, Thank you ED. I will archive this to be used in our websites... Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com http://www.heartchan.org On 3/24/2011 7:56 AM, ED wrote: Christian Lessons from Zen Buddhism *By Lori Erickson * As a Christian, I've gained some of

[Zen] Re: Christian Zen

2011-03-24 Thread ED
Christian Lessons from Zen Buddhism By Lori Erickson As a Christian, I've gained some of my most valuable insights into spirituality from Zen Buddhism. During visits to monasteries in South Korea and Japan, I've encountered exquisite beauties and powerful insights that have greatly enriched m

[Zen] Re: Christian Zen

2008-08-05 Thread Bill Smart
I hadn't received any postings via email from Zen Forum for a while, so I logged into the website and found this posting: --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "hot_si_man" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I profess no expertise in either Zen practice or Christianity, but > there is a partial verse th

[Zen] Re: Christian Zen

2008-07-28 Thread hot_si_man
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "Al" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What is it? > I profess no expertise in either Zen practice or Christianity, but there is a partial verse that I think sums it up quite nicely, from Psalms 46:10 - "Be still, and know that I am God." What I get from the tea