On Sat, 1 Nov 2003 23:43:26 + Tom Matkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I note that the
Church is independent of all other churches in terms of doctrine,
programs, missionary work, ordinances, and other matters of theology
and
administration...
Ok, Tom. I buy your explanation.
The Catholics are using the Mormon building for their own release time
seminary per Church News article.
I'm sure the relationship between the LDS and Catholic church will grow
and strengthen because of things like this. I'm hoping that it will put
us on a road of mutual respect and
Are you the one, I thought it was Marc Schindler but am likely mistaken.
I
am not so sure anyone but me would appreciate your referral.
George
===
Yep, it was me. Positive, for sure.
Paul O
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Of course I'm here, John. I've been really busy working on my Book of
Abraham apologetics.
Also, mankind (starting with Adam) has only been on the earth for 6,000
years and I beat Gary Smith really good in that last debate. When it
comes to the teachings of the prophets it just goes to show that
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:21:49 -0700 George Cobabe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Don't forget George while you are at it, Tom. I hope that it will be
in the
good column,
George
And, don't forget I'm the one that told you about the Zion list.
:-))
Paul O
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dear ones,
I received the following by email. It probably violates the charter
for me to forward it... but does anyone know the truth of this? I am
incensed!
===
Yep, I read about it. The political correct police action showed its true
colors. Brigham Young is rolling
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:04:07 -0400 Grampa Bill in Savannah
Grampa Bill answers:
I am incensed at the initial act of bigotry and blasphemy. I am
further incensed that the police arrested my brethren. There are
times
when a quick run to the nearest Krispy Kreme is appropriate. This
On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 06:36:22 -0500 Stacy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
I thought you were an apologist.
Stacy.
Yes, in a manner of speaking. I do have website called, My Attack on
antiMormonism http://www.myegyptology.net/file/home.htm which I do just
for fun.
I mainly concentrate on
How does the lonely Mormon apologist, Paul Osborne, square with the fact
(based on evidence) that the prophet Joseph Smith incorrectly thought the
papyrus roll was genuine Abrahamic material when in fact it was not?
A fresh new perspective regarding this matter is now available for your
On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:16:56 -0500 Stacy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
This is very interesting. It implies that God doesn't always correct
error
for his purposes.
Stacy.
Something like that. I had to come up with something for my website. I've
been deep into this stuff for a good
On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:47:14 -0500 Stacy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
I don't remember. Are you on FAIR or affiliated with them?
Stacy.
I got booted from FAIR but have since returned under the name of Truth
and they are allowing me too stay because I am being nicer and not
shoving
On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:25:24 -0500 Stacy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Well, can you answer me another question which I am very curious
about?
I have not read either of the Godmaker books. I'm careful not to read to
much antiMormon material because it is depressing and does not edify at
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 00:14:53 + Jim Cobabe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Counsel with the bishop is a standard answer. As a problem
solving
strategy, it usually doesn't work at all, at least in my experience.
Bishops don't have effective answers for any but the most routine
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 00:32:53 + Jim Cobabe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
I am not offering the least criticism to women who work out of
necessity.
Good. Let's keep it that way. No one made you the judge.
Paul O
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
years of service in, yet my husband who is eminently more
qualified and
smarter and who has nearly 5 years in, was not promoted. Yes, my
husband
is white collar, but I have to work, too.
Heidi
[Original Message]
From: Paul Osborne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 9/14
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 11:50:33 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I, too, would also like decent health care for my family, but we pay
more
and get less coverage than the union employees do. He doesn't get
overtime. They do. He doesn't have any recourse when he doesn't
like how
he's being
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 11:48:07 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Oh! And I forgot...my husband has also literally broken his back at
work...when the store was being constructed, they didn't properly
cover an
area where pipes and that come up to the ground...only covered it
in
plywood. He
Excerpts from Recent Addresses of President Gordon B. Hinckley, Ensign,
Dec. 1995, 66
In this age when more and more women are TURNING TO DAILY WORK, how
tremendous it is, once in a while, to stop and recognize that the
greatest service that any woman will ever perform will be in nurturing,
Gordon B. Hinckley, Stand True and Faithful, Ensign, May 1996, 91
I urge each of you young women to get all of the schooling you can get.
You will need it for the world into which you will move. Life is becoming
so exceedingly competitive. Experts say that the average man or woman,
during his
Gordon B. Hinckley, Women of the Church, Ensign, Nov. 1996, 67
Some years ago President Benson delivered a message to the women of the
Church. He encouraged them to leave their employment and give their
individual time to their children. I sustain the position which he took.
NEVERTHLESS, I
On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 21:59:10 -0400 Jon Spencer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Every action has consequences, good or bad. Going faster than the
speed
limit is not the most important factor in traffic accidents.
Defensive
driving is.
You would very well have a change of attitude if someone killed
On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 21:59:10 -0400 Jon Spencer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Going faster than the
speed
limit is not the most important factor in traffic accidents.
Defensive
driving is.
Just think about how many accidents would be avoided if people didn't
speed. Do you speed? If you do; stop it
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 02:06:26 + Jim Cobabe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Perhaps we could conduct a survey of views on importance of
following
President Benson's counsel about mothers not working outside the
home.
Or perhaps we could find some statistics regarding women married in
the
On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 13:32:31 -0400 Chet Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Since Joseph noted that Paul had been mistranslated -- what Paul
(not
Paul Osborne) actually advised was that it wasn't correct for women
to
RULE in church. If you read the rest of Paul's letter, it's pretty
obvious
I don't even try. I don't always drive the speed limit either. --JWR
You should. It is the law of the land and provides for better safety for
all drivers on the public highway. You need to stop speeding, now. If I
was the prophet I would include the following question on the temple
recommend:
On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 20:09:57 GMT Larry Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Stacy Smith:
Are you suggesting that not all of Paul's guidance
should be taken as from the Lord on these matters?
___
Of course not. I think it is perfectly alright
for the sisters to speak at
On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 20:20:15 GMT Larry Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Stacy Smith:
I may be a dunce on this one, but where is the true
symbolism of Jesus' lifeblood being crushed out of him
and him being bruised for our iniquities with the current
use of water in our Sacrament?
On Mon, 08 Sep 2003 04:41:45 -0500 Stacy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
I am now positive that if one kills himself he will end up as a
telestial
being. Am I right on this point?
Stacy.
It depends on the mental state of the person. But, there is no reason to
kill oneself just because
I don't know the answer, John. I'm a jerk too and wonder if I am just
failing my mortal probation. I often think I made a mistake agreeing to
come to this lousy world. I didn't have to. I could have gone to any
other millions of other worlds and I actually agreed to come here. I'm
one stupid
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 17:01:04 -0500 Valerie Nielsen Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You made me smile, Paul. When I read your comment, my mind raced to
Mormon Doctrine 20+ years ago, when McConkie said that the great
and
abominable church was the Catholic church, and how he had to soften
On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 22:10:05 -0500 Valerie Nielsen Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Well Paul, I had not heard the one about evil kings celebrating
birthdays
vis a vis birthdays are bad, but I have had a couple of students in
my
Well, That is what I read in a JW pamphlet over 20 years
On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 12:52:13 -0500 Stacy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Hi. This is something I wasn't taught by the missionaries. I guess
they
didn't feel it was necessary to mention it. I'm curious why the
Jehovah's
Witnesses do not celebrate birthdays but we feel it is okay.
On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 22:13:22 -0600 George Cobabe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Paul, you should know that the FAIR message boards are not the FAIR
members,
but rather visitors who post what they want. If that is the best
you can
do - accuse FAIR of being responsible for everything on the
On Sat, 09 Aug 2003 17:36:49 -0800 John W. Redelfs
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I found the article very frustrating. After reading the first half
of it,
I discovered that the second half was off the right side of my
screen with
no way to access it.
Let's see. The Brethren ask us to:
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 09:58:46 -0600 Steven Montgomery
Who is claiming that Jesus was black? Ideas like this is why I tend
to
steer away from FAIR--in my experience I've found them to be a bunch
of
wannabe scholars but lacking in far too many areas.
It was an anti who posted the link
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 07:39:36 -0800 John W. Redelfs
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I doubt if you will get banned on this list, Paul. We are not PC.
Of
course, if you really tried --JWR
Thanks JR, as I do try to be extra good around here. I do have to say
though that I almost cried when I found
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 20:58:43 -0400 Grampa Bill in Savannah
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Paul Osborne wrote:
I'm brutally honest just like JR is but with less tact.
Grampa Bill asks:
Less tact than JR?
Hard to believe! :-)
Love y'all,
Grampa Bill
On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 12:13:35 -0600 George Cobabe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Paul: You have such a tendency to throw things around. Could you
provide a
reference for anyone who believes about Deer and Wooden swords?
Hopefully a
url!!!
Go to the FAIR message board. I can hardly believe
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 08:34:15 -0600 George Cobabe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Once again Paul, you find it easy to throw out accusations but are
unable to
back your words up. I am not trying to get you going about
anything. The
discussion was in regard to FAIR and what they had to say. You
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 10:28:14 -0800 John W. Redelfs
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I heard of 'em. In fact, I'm on the Mormon Thinker's list. But
Mormon
Thinkers is a Johnny Come Lately list. Zion has been around since
November
of 1993. --JWR
Give my regards to Andy, John. He booted me from the
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:28:16 -0600 George Cobabe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I think that there is a difference between melting and working gold
and the
making of metal alloys such as steel. I think that is what is
being
objected to when they say they was no metal working.
George
The
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 05:59:17 -0600 George Cobabe
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For more on this issue you might want to check out fairlds.com.
This is a
group of LDS apologists that are tracking the issue.
Yeah, and this lousy board just excommunicated me for making statements
about physiological
On Fri, 11 Aug 2000 15:07:41 -0700 Rick Mathis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
At 08:14 AM 8/11/2003 -0500, Paul wrote:
Anyway, I'm going to shut up now
because I seem to get banned just about every where I go.
Thank you very much, Paul.
Rick Mathis
You're welcome.
blahh
Paul O
[EMAIL
I would not take out a loan for the continuing education of a child.
Education comes with a price and not all families are entitled to one. We
still live in a class structure world. Some people can afford privileges
and other cannot. It's always been that way. I don't see how you can
afford to
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 14:10:36 -0400 Scott McGee
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Paul Osborne wrote:
As far as this life being a nightmare? (as was suggested) - that
does
not
seem like a loving Father at all. I think that this life is a
wonderful
experience and every challenge only adds
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 10:15:03 -0800 John W. Redelfs
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
What about you all? Have any of you seen a good movie lately? I
buy a
couple of DVDs every month, and I'm always looking for something
good that
I have overlooked.
Oh yes! I recently got the new double DVD of over
On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 06:53:08 -0800 John W. Redelfs
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Noel B favored us with:
For an answer I would have to look to God and the prophet. When I
listen
to President Hinckley, I hear a very positive message. I have to
assume
that each one of us must seek
On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 14:12:11 -0600 Steven Montgomery
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
At 10:44 AM 7/12/2003, Paul wrote:
John,
President Bensen is dead. What he said has no bearing anymore
regarding
the direction and present condition of the Church, let alone the
future
direction. This
On Wed, 2 Jul 2003 12:33:21 + Jim Cobabe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Well, Paul, I prefer Mountain Dew. It isn't Coke, so I can still
claim
to be holier-than-thou! ;-)
At least those of us who are painfully honest about our bad habits
can
admit that we only like these drinks
Heidi,
On the hallowed language issue-- you can lead a horse to water but you
can't make him drink. The General Authorities have constantly tried to
tell the Church to use the appropriate language. There is usually a
conference talk on this subject at least every few years. But these
members
On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 18:24:33 -0700 Stacy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Are we prohibited from owning stock in Coca Cola?
Stacy.
Absolutely not. Drink up!
Paul O
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
The best thing to hit the internet in years
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 08:17:00 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Oh, I don't know, Paul. I'm pretty particular, I suppose, but I just
don't
worry about making hand contact with the temple workers. Especially
when
it pertains to performing ordinances, I just feel like the Lord
will
protect
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:05:31 -0600 Steven Montgomery
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
At 08:14 AM 6/24/2003, you wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 08:17:00 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Oh, I don't know, Paul. I'm pretty particular, I suppose, but I
just
don't
worry about making hand contact
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 17:54:56 -0600 George Cobabe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Boy o Boy - talking about whether or not to shake hands for fear of
illness
and death makes a lot more sense than talking about doctrinal or
news
topics.
What a lot of nonsense - I keep waiting for the punch line
Me too, Heidi.
Paul O
On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 14:47:32 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I am a big believer in hand washing. That might have something to do
with
the fact that my mother is a nurse. Anyhoo...I've spent a lot of
time
around children that aren't my own, and I rarely get sick.
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 04:11:31 -0700 Stacy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
What are we supposed to do about temple workers' hands? Are we to
ask if
they have washed them?
Stacy.
It's just down right dirty, nasty, and germy. There just doesn't seem to
be a way out of it. H. Oh well;
On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 04:05:08 + Jim Cobabe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
My hand shakes a lot too.
Whadda ya think we oughta do about it?
Stop spreading your nasty germs, Jimmyboy. ;-))
Did you know that I actually packed two cans of lysol spray on my mission
to London England!? No
On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 05:45:39 -0500 Ronn! Blankenship
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
At 04:45 AM 6/21/03 -0500, Paul Osborne wrote:
On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 04:05:08 + Jim Cobabe
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
My hand shakes a lot too.
Whadda ya think we oughta do about it?
Stop
On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 10:06:02 -0600 Steven Montgomery
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You ought to be even more grateful then that the mid-eastern
tradition of
greeting is not followed then.
Why? What do they do?
Paul O
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 11:12:56 -0600 Steven Montgomery
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The Holy (Or, I suppose unholy, depending on who is performing the
action)
Kiss: Luke 22: 47-48, and then Romans 16:16, 1 Cor. 16: 20, 2 Cor.
13: 12,
1 Thess. 5: 26, and finally 1 Peter 5: 14.
This is a
On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 17:21:49 -0500 Ronn! Blankenship
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kiss: Luke 22: 47-48, and then Romans 16:16, 1 Cor. 16: 20, 2
Cor.
13: 12,
1 Thess. 5: 26, and finally 1 Peter 5: 14.
This is a charter violation. ;-)
Quoting scripture?
That's right, wise guy.
The
On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 19:35:22 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Paul, you can get bottles of the anti-bacterial stuff that is the
right
size for your pocket or your wife's handbag, and they have a flip
top.
Either that, or you can carry around those individually-wrapped
anti-bacterial moist
On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 16:51:03 -0400 Maj Tom Merrill
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The First Presidency and the Twelve probably shake hundreds of hands
each week and, even at their advanced ages, no ill effects. I think
we're probably safe.
Tom
Well, I'm not a prophet and I ain't ever
On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 12:29:45 -0500 Ronn! Blankenship
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Paul, maybe you should consider carrying around one of those big
squirt
bottle of that anti-bacterial hand gel and use it every time
immediately
after you shake someone's hand . . . and hope you never get called
as
Grampa,
What an excellent response! A very safe one too.
:-)
Paul O
On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 10:50:24 -0700 Grampa Bill in Savannah
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Paul Osborne wrote:
Do you think that Joseph Smith and his assistants were wasting
their time when they created the Egyptian
is the opinion of the group? I'd find your comments
interesting as
well as educational.
As I said, I have some rather strong feelings on this, but I thought
that I'd ask this august group.
Thx Cheers
Tom
Hmmm. First of all, ain't no one gonna rule over me (Paul Osborne the
Great
John, I don't know the answers to these questions. All I can say is we
need to accept the ever changing world of Mormonism. Things will change
in both the Church and Mormon culture and we are not given explanations
as to why. We just follow.
Paul O
On Wed, 18 Jun 2003 17:37:01 + John W.
On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 05:06:21 -0700 Stacy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
What's the weather like over there? In the 90's? Hope so.
Actually we have had a real mild spring and are starting out mild this
summer. Mostly upper 80's and low 90's. I think we only have been in the
high 90's a few
of sunshine too.
Oh, it's Church tomorrow. Hmmm, I better not skip again, at least for a
while. :-)
thinking out loud
Paul O
On Sat, 07 Jun 2003 16:24:05 -0400 Scott McGee
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Paul,
The least you could do is tell us _HOW_ you found the owner!
Scott
Paul Osborne wrote
The MS number is less likely to give a direct link to the owner.
however,
if it is not a big name brand computer, then MS could probably tell
you who
the manufacturer is, if you can find anyone at MS to speak to.
Jon
- Original Message -
From: Paul Osborne [EMAIL PROTECTED
Zion might know.
I found a lap top computer. It has no name or identification. Is there a
way to track down the owner with the product code number? If so, how do
I so it?
Paul O
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
On Mon, 2 Jun 2003 18:59:49 -0400 Jon Spencer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Paul Osborne wrote:
Anyway, God loves me, and that's final.
And I love you too, Paul. That makes two!
Noj
Thanks. It's always nice to hear that and especially my Zion friends. :-)
Paul O
[EMAIL PROTECTED
Right on Gary. That was a bull'seye.
Paul O
On Sat, 31 May 2003 19:45:24 -0500 Gerald Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
I believe they are discussing different ideas, but arriving at the
same
conclusions overall. Elder Nelson is trying to refute the idea of
God
unconditionally accepting
Some on the list have mentioned in the past that God does not
love
sinners, and tried to use recent statements on unconditional
love to
prove their point.
I'd like to quote Elder Neal Maxwell, perhaps the current
scriptural
scholar among the apostles, and definitely the
Gee-wizz, John. I thought we weren't suppose to talk about Iraq? Remember
the last flame war we had? Well, since we are about to go at it again I
will only make one little itty bitty comment which is that I hope we bomb
the hell out Iraq and roll our tanks right into the palaces of that
madman in
Last Sunday I knew we would have great talks in sacrament because Elder
Gibbons and his wife were speaking. He is an Area Authority that lives in
my ward and I have known him for over 15 years and my wife much longer.
What was strange was he got up and said that he was going to participate
in a
John,
What is the final day or hour when posts can be posted on the Zion list?
Paul O
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Also, if I recall correctly, didn't the Nephites worship
Christ only to a point, after which he told them to worship the Father?
The Nephites worshipped Christ because he was the ETERNAL GOD and they
loved him with all their hearts. It is true that the mortal Jesus taught
the Jews how to pray to
Marc
I certainly wouldn't object to that.
You my friend, are indeed a Christian. :-)
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Then, my friend, what is meant by the term eternal progression? Are we
being lied to?
Jon
No, we are not being lied to. You just don't understand what eternal
progression is, Jon. It is a state of never ending progress as worlds
come and go. The size of heavenly Father's kingdom grows with
There was no beginning and there will be no end, there was no first
Father and there will never be a last Father
Notive how I left out the period at the end of the above sentence?
grin
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I tend to go with the odds and believe
that He was not likely a Savior like Jesus
A safe bet. You win.
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I'm glad to hear that George. Keep it up. :-)
Paul O
On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 16:26:42 -0700 George Cobabe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
geez Paul - and I was beginning to have such confidence in your
doctrinal
judgment.
George
- Original Message -
From: Paul Osborne [EMAIL PROTECTED
Interesting -- I think you might have me there, at least partially, as I
was
unaware of the GBH quote. I suppose I should have defined the term more
tightly
and say that we don't *pray* to Jesus Christ.
Right. I can go along with this, Marc. However, you might recall that I
said earlier that
First Presidency Message
A Testimony of the Son of God
Ensign, December 2002
By President Gordon B. Hinckley
We honor Him, we worship Him, we love Him as our Redeemer, the great
Jehovah of the Old Testament, the Messiah of the New Testament. The
entire thrust of the testimony of the Book of
. Because God the Father is in fact the only authorized
object
of our worship.
We can love, respect,hold in high esteem and appreciation the Son,
our
redeemer, but we worship only the Father.
George
- Original Message -
From: Paul Osborne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED
I confess your quotes regarding worshiping Christ are troubling with
regard
to his verse. How do you reconcile the two?
I've got to go to bed now. I'm absolutely exhausted and sick too, again.
I'll just say that the difference between the three members of the
Godhead boils down to one fact, and
Stephen E. Robinson, Are Mormons Christians? New Era, May 1998, 41
Both the Book of Mormon as scripture and Joseph Smith as a prophet bear
witness to Jesus Christ as Savior. The Doctrine and Covenants and Pearl
of Great Price bear that same great witness, as do all of the modern
prophets and
Bernard P. Brockbank, The Living Christ, Ensign, May 1977, 26
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints worships a God and a
Jesus Christ with bodies, with parts, and with passions.
Paul O
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Redelfs' Commentary: God became God by obedience to pre-existing,
coeternal law. And if we are to become Gods we must follow the same
path
that he took. The idea that God made up the laws by which he became God
is
a Protestant idea. It is not the gospel.
Amen!
I can see that John has it
Amen!
John, you and I see this thing eye to eye and agree. Isn't it great? ;-)
Paul O
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:27:04 -0900 John W. Redelfs
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God cannot sin. If he did, he would cease to be God. He cannot
create
something out of nothing. He cannot annihilate something in
God does what his Father did before him...
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On Wed, 11 Dec 2002 15:42:17 -0600 Gary Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Actually, there are many Levites that have established their
genealogies
without a patriarchal blessing. Jews today are still rather diligent
in
ensuring their descendancy.
Do you mean Jews who are Levites in the
As per above thread line:
Yeah, I am.
I damaged both of my wrists removing several nuts off of 7/8 bolts and
it is very hard and painful for me to type and to hold a mouse.
I'm learning that my body can't do what it use to do.
Paul O
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On Mon, 9 Dec 2002 14:28:51 + Chet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ouch, Paul!
Here's hoping and praying for no permanent damage (at our ages,
those
joints just don't snap back) and a swift recovery. In this day of
electronic information, our typing skills are paramount.
I went to
On Mon, 09 Dec 2002 11:29:52 -0400 Scott McGee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Yes, really! Back on Nov. 11 I fell going down my front steps,
bouncing
my tail bone off the bottom step and the cement, and am still having
pain
from it! It is so bad I can't even ride the motorcycle I got the
week
There can be no real and true Christianity, even with good works, unless
we are deeply and personally committed to the reality of Jesus Christ as
the Only Begotten Son of the Father, who bought us, who purchased us in
the great act of atonement.
Spencer W. Kimball, The SaviorThe Center of Our
I look at it this way:
There are two kinds of Christians; those who have the fullness and those
who don't.
Celestial Christians = Latter-day Saints
Terrestrial Christians = Baptists, Catholics, and the rest
In this way we can believe our General Authorities when they refer to
other churches as
Tom
Fundamentally the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is a
kingdom.
Tom, you slipped. Please remember to make the D small. Otherwise--great
post!
And Gary, if you don't fix the big D on your website I'm going to
scream and then tell your bishop!
:-o
Paul O
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