On 6/28/06, Andrew Sawyers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
point. Write the 'Zope product' management software and expose it as a
service - put it on the site.
[...]
No one said bag the collectors. Rewrite http://www.zope.org/Collectors/
to collectors.zope.org and that's done.
No writing is gonna
On Jun 28, 2006, at 2:40 AM, Lennart Regebro wrote:
On 6/28/06, Andrew Sawyers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
point. Write the 'Zope product' management software and expose it
as a
service - put it on the site.
[...]
No one said bag the collectors. Rewrite http://www.zope.org/
Collectors/
to
On 6/28/06, Chris McDonough [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
He meant use an Apache rewrite rule, I think.
Oh. My excuses in that case.
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Andrew Sawyers wrote at 2006-6-27 22:03 -0400:
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Nearly everyone uses Google to find
anything they care about anyhow.
I use Google because its search is faster than the one on zope.org
*BUT* I restrict it with site:zope.org. Otherwise, I get a few
hundred thousand hits more. Sure, they
David H wrote:
This is sounding more bizzare with each day and it doesnt feel good.
Zope cant maintain a friggin web site? Isnt that rich.
Hey David,
Cool, thanks so much for volunteering to provide all the resources,
coders and support staff to look after a 10,000 user site with all the
Chris Withers wrote:
David H wrote:
This is sounding more bizzare with each day and it doesnt feel good.
Zope cant maintain a friggin web site? Isnt that rich.
Hey David,
Cool, thanks so much for volunteering to provide all the resources,
coders and support staff to look after a 10,000
On Tue, 2006-06-27 at 09:50 +0200, Lennart Regebro wrote:
On 6/27/06, John Schinnerer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is a basic principle of design that works (as opposed to design
that fails to work).
Start small and work the edges outwards.
The work edges outwards that works is often
Andrew Sawyers wrote:
It then came to technology. Some cared some didn't. I personally
didn't if the result was something which the community could be proud of
and not make excuses for as they directed people to the site.
I'd add the caveat that it needs to be stable maintainable software
On 6/26/06, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ah well, this meta-ranting is much quicker and easier...
Hehe. :)
I would like to point out a minor conflict between two of your meta-rants:
I'd add the caveat that it needs to be stable maintainable software that
isn't going to cause the
Andrew Sawyers wrote at 2006-6-25 17:54 -0400:
...
Well, I think the content of this site is what I'd noted is what I noted
in earlier emails. It might not be 'interesting', but I would hope it
to be quality and focused. I have faith the 'interesting' aspects you
wish will come from the
On 6/26/06, Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would prefer a single big site as an access point to the most
relevant information. But, if this is not possible...
Single big site is probably not possible. We have tried and failed.
But having a small focused site that works as the nave
Lennart Regebro wrote:
On 6/26/06, Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would prefer a single big site as an access point to the most
relevant information. But, if this is not possible...
Single big site is probably not possible. We have tried and failed.
But having a small focused
Aloha,
...
I start to understand:
You want to have a narrow, a focused site
because you fear that a bigger one cannot be managed.
In such a case, I would say: start with the small solution
and maybe get bigger later.
This is a basic principle of design that works (as opposed to
On 6/24/06, Andrew Sawyers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There would be VERY limited things an individual could upload. I
personally argued strongly for 0 membership on this site. If the ideas
of micro sites went forward, the appropriate micro sites could allow (or
not) membership as necessary.
On 6/24/06, Andrew Sawyers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I agree - just change from microsite to 'communuty supported site' and I
wouldn't find any reason to argue this personally. :)
...
I'd like to see some other site write this software and feed it to
www.zope.org via rss or some Ajax
--On 25. Juni 2006 08:32:54 +0200 Lennart Regebro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 6/24/06, Andrew Sawyers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There would be VERY limited things an individual could upload. I
personally argued strongly for 0 membership on this site. If the ideas
of micro sites went
On Sun, 2006-06-25 at 08:38 +0200, Lennart Regebro wrote:
OK; I see what you mean now. You ant to create the www.zope.org that
works as the main entrance and integratoor of the microsites. The
proble is that you wnat to do that BEFORE the microsites exist, which
is backwards.
I'd beg to
On 6/25/06, Andrew Sawyers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd beg to differ. A community such as what PHP has built didn't work
this way. They managed this very successfully. We have not. I think
the problem is you want to wait until the complete city is built before
you think you can open select
Hi,
this is my first post to the list. I wanted to add two existing sites, which
also (in part) fill some of the products gap: zopewiki.org, which has
a products index (functional equivalent to zope.org's, with some
stale entries, I think) and planetzope.org with news and regular
product
Andrew Sawyers wrote at 2006-6-24 16:23 -0400:
...
* The existing
concept of membership for uploading bit-rot content will be retired.
This means what?
There would be VERY limited things an individual could upload. I
personally argued strongly for 0 membership on this site. If the ideas
Lennart Regebro wrote at 2006-6-24 22:14 +0200:
...
This way, you would have an integrating site (zope.org)
which would be able to provide integrationg services, e.g.
a search where you are interested in a concept and
happy to find hits in faq, wiki, product,...
That can be done anyway.
But
On 6/25/06, Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But it's quite a bit more difficult when the content comes
from independent microsites on different servers.
Maybe, but that is without a doubt a small issue compared with the big
issues microsites will solve.
As I understood we have one
On Sun, 2006-06-25 at 21:41 +0200, Dieter Maurer wrote:
Then I fear few interesting content will arrive at this site.
Well, I think the content of this site is what I'd noted is what I noted
in earlier emails. It might not be 'interesting', but I would hope it
to be quality and focused. I
Andrew Sawyers wrote:
On Sun, 2006-06-25 at 21:41 +0200, Dieter Maurer wrote:
Then I fear few interesting content will arrive at this site.
Well, I think the content of this site is what I'd noted is what I noted
in earlier emails. It might not be 'interesting', but I
Aloha,
As an occasional user of the zope.org site I'll present my typical use
case, as that's what matters most to me... :-D
I go there normally for one of two reasons:
1) to slog through available products to see if I can find something to
suit a development need I have
2) to slog
I would like to take this opprotunity to repeat myself. I know this is
boring but I feel it is important. :-)
We have already made a new www.zope.org once. That was an ambitious
project, which potential did not become fully realized. We need to
take with us the experiences of that.
And this is
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On 24 Jun 2006, at 00:15, Andrew Sawyers wrote:
A group of people in the (Plone) community have volunteered
their time and resources to put together an improved,
**interim** zope.org site. We understand that work is
underway on a longer-term
Andrew Sawyers wrote at 2006-6-23 18:15 -0400:
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For bug
tracking, either links to the existing ZC trackers or
a Trac installation.
If you move to Trac *PLEASE* migrate the current issues.
It is very discouraging to loose all the bug reports
and patches (as happened when a former
Lennart Regebro wrote at 2006-6-24 10:58 +0200:
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1. We do NOT want a new www.zope.org. We want MANY new
something.zope.org. We should have a products.zope.org, and a
collector.zope.org, and a faq.zope.org, and a wiki.zope.org, and
blablabla.
In what way would this differ from
On 6/24/06, Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In what way would this differ from zope.org/{collector,faq,wiki,...}?
Well, for one, it´s simpler to set up, and does not rely one one
single point of failure (and apache that does the rewriting) to each
separate server. Secondly, what I'm
On Sat, 2006-06-24 at 20:13 +0200, Dieter Maurer wrote:
Andrew Sawyers wrote at 2006-6-23 18:15 -0400:
...
For bug
tracking, either links to the existing ZC trackers or
a Trac installation.
If you move to Trac *PLEASE* migrate the current issues.
It is very discouraging to
On Sat, 2006-06-24 at 10:58 +0200, Lennart Regebro wrote:
We have already made a new www.zope.org once. That was an ambitious
project, which potential did not become fully realized. We need to
take with us the experiences of that.
Trust me, many of us do. Jens and I spent many many hours on
Sorry for the cross-post; lets but wanted to make sure those on the
zope-web list saw this. Lets keep this on the zope list going forward.
For sometime, we have tried to coordinate various numbers of people in
the community to get an improved Zope.org up and functional. Some of
this improvement
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