Thanks for creating this. I just (finally) commented.
Jim
On Feb 29, 2008, at 6:50 PM, Malthe Borch wrote:
Jim Fulton wrote:
+1. Some more details would need to be worked out. For example, to
work for your use case, it would need to be involved in search, or
the searching rules would
and use
assertion of a more traditional nature, if the test is still readable,
although I suspect that it will often be easier to normalize output
rather than make lots of assertions about the output.
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On Mar 13, 2008, at 12:11 AM, Paul Winkler wrote:
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 09:25:59AM -0400, Jim Fulton wrote:
It is certainly straightforward enough to create isolated
doctests. For
edge cases, I do typically create separate isolated short doctests
that
deal just with that case
in zope.publisher.
Thoughts? Objections?
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On Mar 21, 2008, at 11:09 AM, Benji York wrote:
Jim Fulton wrote:
This new package would a number of things [...]
This new package would do what to a number of things?
Gaaah. Sorry.
It would omit them. :)
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On Mar 21, 2008, at 12:10 PM, David Pratt wrote:
Hi Jim. What does this mean?
It wouldn't have any visible effect on zope.publisher. Applications
that use zope.publisher wouldn't see a change.
There would be an alternative to zope.publisher that has far fewer
dependencies and fewer
On Mar 21, 2008, at 12:55 PM, Jim Fulton wrote:
On Mar 21, 2008, at 12:15 PM, Lennart Regebro wrote:
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thoughts? Objections?
I've caught the repoze bug, and if this makes a Repoze.zope3 easier
to
do/happier, then I'm
On Mar 21, 2008, at 6:54 PM, David Pratt wrote:
Hi Jim. OK great. Many thanks for elaborating. This will be
progressive. I had been considering an application use case without
a zodb. Is this the scenario that the basic publisher would
facilitate?
No-more so than the existing publisher
On Mar 23, 2008, at 2:27 PM, Martin Aspeli wrote:
Jim Fulton wrote:
On Mar 21, 2008, at 6:54 PM, David Pratt wrote:
Hi Jim. OK great. Many thanks for elaborating. This will be
progressive. I had been considering an application use case
without a zodb. Is this the scenario that the basic
On Mar 23, 2008, at 3:02 PM, Martin Aspeli wrote:
Jim Fulton wrote:
On Mar 23, 2008, at 2:27 PM, Martin Aspeli wrote:
Jim Fulton wrote:
On Mar 21, 2008, at 6:54 PM, David Pratt wrote:
Hi Jim. OK great. Many thanks for elaborating. This will be
progressive. I had been considering
On Mar 25, 2008, at 5:25 AM, Martijn Faassen wrote:
Jim Fulton wrote:
[snip]
Thoughts? Objections?
A simpler publisher has been on my wish-list for a long time now.
I'm a bit worried though that a publisher born from the current Zope
3 publisher with the goal to build up enough support
be interesting to look at how difficult it would be to
reunify the Zope 2 and Zope 3 request and response APIs. It might
also be interesting to look at a broader unification as Ian Bicking
has made some movement toward.
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mention ZODB. :)
Are there wsgi servers for jython?
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assumption that time will not be left.
In particular, I'd prefer to see more of the stack get ported over
speedups.
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- having an optional additional credential of a user domain,
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of Python scripts, so we will need to port RestrictedPython
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I *think* this was ported. Zope 3 does use it to moderate attribute
access to simple objects, which aren't security proxied, in untrusted
code.
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the dependent eggs isn't desirable, however, I don't
object to providing an option to do it.
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On Apr 4, 2008, at 8:55 AM, Adam GROSZER wrote:
Hello Jim,
Friday, April 4, 2008, 2:22:06 PM, you wrote:
JF IMO, testing the dependent eggs isn't desirable, however, I don't
JF object to providing an option to do it.
How do you propose or in fact how do you do testing just before going
On Apr 7, 2008, at 2:15 AM, Christian Zagrodnick wrote:
On 2008-04-04 14:22:06 +0200, Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
On Apr 4, 2008, at 7:14 AM, Adam GROSZER wrote:
Hello,
Is there a sane way (or recipe) out there that makes testing a
meta-eggs easier?
As I see now, I'll need to enter
the ability to provide widget data without
having to specify the widget.)
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dependency on zope.testing, but I would and have used test extras to
avoid more extensive dependencies.
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On Apr 14, 2008, at 7:29 AM, Roger Ineichen wrote:
Feel free to replace zapi everywhere in all packages
if you change something.
+1
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You might be able to arrange this now using the buildout extension
mechanism:
http://pypi.python.org/pypi/zc.buildout#extensions
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, if buildout can generate a more helpful
error, I'd be happy to fix it.)
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On Apr 18, 2008, at 4:28 AM, Baiju M wrote:
Paul Carduner wrote:
Log message for revision 85449: creating a branch to see what I can
do about extjs integration.
I found Jim removing two of his extjs related libraries from svn due
to license issues (r85246, r85248).
Please make sure
On Apr 18, 2008, at 12:47 PM, Stephan Richter wrote:
On Friday 18 April 2008, Jim Fulton wrote:
Because of ExtJS licensing issues, we should not check anything into
the repository that builds on or requires ExtJS in any way.
I assume you got lawyer advice;
No.
can you elaborate
the repository.
We *still* can't put the ExtJS code itself into svn.zope.org, but
perhaps we can now allow checking in ZPLed code which uses it.
No, we can't. I am willing to be overridden by the Foundation Board
on this. Absent that, consider this an edict. :)
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/zc.buildout/trunk/src/zc/buildout/tests.py?rev=85041view=auto
I like narrative tests when the tests are reasonably a part of a
story. Not all tests are, or many tests are there own stories unto
themselves. In cases like this, small isolated tests are a lot better.
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On Apr 24, 2008, at 1:12 AM, Christian Theune wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 04:47:59PM -0400, Jim Fulton wrote:
On Apr 23, 2008, at 4:47 PM, Marius Gedminas wrote:
...
The point of my message was not to whine
about the state of zope.testing, but to present a new argument
against
On Apr 25, 2008, at 1:59 AM, Lennart Regebro wrote:
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- If a file is documentation and a test, make sure it is good
documentation. In that case, documentation comes first. Don't add
so many
tests that it ruins
documentation. I'd be hesitant to link to d=non-documentation from
documentation.
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Because it's written primarily as a test, not as documentation. For a
file to be useable as documentation, greater thought needs to be given
to the user reading it. Sometimes, I can't afford the extra time.
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This is probably a left over from all the breakage yesterday.
I'll look at this today.
Jim
On Apr 30, 2008, at 4:01 AM, Lorenzo Gil Sanchez wrote:
I saw that warning too
El mié, 30-04-2008 a las 09:48 +0200, Thomas Lotze escribió:
Just to note: I received a warning
'post-commit' hook
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it tries to read the
extends= files.
Do I miss something?
Right, it doesn't process extensions until it has loaded the entire
database.
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If you need to change your keys, that's what you should use.
For people who might want to become contributors, I've tried to
create comprehensive yet concise set of instructions:
http://www.zope.org/DevHome/Subversion/ImpatientPeoplesGuideToRequestingCommitPrivileges
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On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
https://cvs.zope.org/upload-key.html
I get an SSL error when visiting that page:
Secure Connection Failed
cvs.zope.org uses an invalid security certificate
now.
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I wrote:
I wouldn't assume that. One of my packages, buildoutsftp has gone
missing too. :(
Never mind. I was looking for the wrong package name. :/
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setup.py file,
to get a python script in the $PYTHON/bin folder, exactly like what
zc.recipe.testrunner does.
+1
It could be called zope.testrunner maybe ? (nose= nostests,
py.test = py.test)
too long.
I vote for test or runtest.
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to the egg you want.
Which package is giving you trouble?
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On May 27, 2008, at 1:55 PM, Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
On May 27, 2008, at 12:49 , Jim Fulton wrote:
On May 27, 2008, at 1:42 PM, Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
Hi guys,
Does zc.buildout and/or the default egg recipe have any way of
overriding the download URL from the cheese shop if that URL
On Jun 5, 2008, at 10:16 AM, Jim Fulton wrote:
On Jun 5, 2008, at 9:52 AM, David Otero Figueroa wrote:
I would like to know:
- Can conflict errors appear when reading objects from the ZODB?
Yes
Gaaa. I meant no.
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On Jun 6, 2008, at 2:41 PM, Dieter Maurer wrote:
Jim Fulton wrote at 2008-6-5 10:46 -0400:
On Jun 5, 2008, at 10:16 AM, Jim Fulton wrote:
On Jun 5, 2008, at 9:52 AM, David Otero Figueroa wrote:
I would like to know:
- Can conflict errors appear when reading objects from the ZODB?
Yes
He modified an existing test to exercise this.
Jim
On Jun 10, 2008, at 7:56 AM, Benji York wrote:
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 4:59 AM, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Log message for revision 87277:
- Fixed wrong split when using the += and -= syntax (mustapha)
I didn't see tests
On Jun 11, 2008, at 10:36 AM, rahul bhaskar wrote:
Hi,
I am facing some problem with merging two zodb file.
is it possible to open two zodb Database at a time and copy object
from one to another.
Yes, using the export/import mechanism.
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On Jun 11, 2008, at 12:09 PM, Martijn Faassen wrote:
Hi there,
I saw Jim started work on a zc.yuiresource, but then stopped before
it did anything useful. I assume it was going to make the YUI
libraries available as a resource library. The strategy would be to
check in a release of YUI
thing work; have the
ability to publish the stuff locally as a resource library directory
or something...
Yeah, something. Good luck! :)
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On Jun 11, 2008, at 4:22 PM, Stephan Richter wrote:
On Wednesday 11 June 2008, Jim Fulton wrote:
On Jun 11, 2008, at 10:36 AM, rahul bhaskar wrote:
Hi,
I am facing some problem with merging two zodb file.
is it possible to open two zodb Database at a time and copy object
from one to another
On Jun 11, 2008, at 7:51 PM, Stephan Richter wrote:
On Wednesday 11 June 2008, Jim Fulton wrote:
Stupid question: Which one? I tried straight xmlpickle and got some
errors
randomly.
I was referring to the binary export/import, which is the only one
supported by ZODB, afaik, although it's
.
Basically, when you get to the end of URL traversal, you should get an
object that wants to be called to get a result and that implements or
can be adapted to this interface.
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On Jun 19, 2008, at 10:46 AM, Christian Theune wrote:
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 09:46:35AM -0400, Jim Fulton wrote:
I suggest:
- decide on and advertise the new interface
- continue to do look ups the way we do now
- update relevant zcml directives (view, page, resource. etc.) to use
the new
On Jun 19, 2008, at 10:53 AM, Christian Theune wrote:
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 10:50:00AM -0400, Jim Fulton wrote:
Would it be reasonable to also issue a warning if someone does a
lookup for
Interface?
No, because clients have to look up using Interface as long as the
component they need
that gets the id from form data as
well as from a cookie. I propose to merge this with
CookieClientIdManager.
Any objections?
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in order to upload 3.5.2 (which worked)
- I created V 3.5.3 yesterday morning. Uploading the egg was
impossible
because I had no longer rights (in fact permissions are currentl
only granted to Jim and Fred Drake (not even Phillip)
- search for zope.testing on PyPI leads me to version 3.0 instead
On Jul 10, 2008, at 9:28 AM, Roger Ineichen wrote:
Hi Jim
Betreff: [Zope-dev] Proposal: add form support
tozope.session.http.CookieClientIdManager
As it's name implies, the CookieClientIdManager manages HTTP
client ids using HTTP cookies. Recently, I've found it to be
useful to be able
sure you svn up to get the latest configuration, then:
python dev.py
bin/test
Unfortunately there's a test failure in the rmtree module for me.
I'll get after the author of that module.
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cruft strewn throughout them.
I agree.
A sneaky way to do this would be to change the setup code to set a
HOME environment variable to a temporary directory
containing .buildout/default.cfg with:
[buildout]
newest = false
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, it wants the newest release by default.
You can use the prefer-final buildout option:
[buildout]
prefer-final = true
...
to have buildout prefer final releases.
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that location out.
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sense to me for queryAdapter to have different semantics depending on
whether the name argument is provided (and is non-blank).
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(such as zope.publisher, for
example) made imports slower. It was faster to use unzipped eggs.
This was on Linux.
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solution.
I object.
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On Aug 30, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Roger Ineichen wrote:
But zope.schema does already know about term.
This was a mistake.
...
ISource uses ITerm as items.
No it doesn't.
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. For searching you don't need titles or tokens.
For a
search *UI* you do, but that doesn't belong to zope.schema either.
Are you arguing that zope.schema.Field should not have a title
attribute?
I don't think title is in the same class.
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You don't, I guess. I'd say that multi-adaption is *defined* as the
adaption of a tuple.
Some people who use zope.interface reply on being able to singly adapt
tuples
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On Sep 2, 2008, at 10:38 AM, Stephan Richter wrote:
On Tuesday 02 September 2008, Jim Fulton wrote:
This whould not affect other implementations like
the ISourceQueriables etc. It only offers the
a way to implement reusable simple ISource components
without the need that every UI framework
formed between packages that should have been independent.
There was no incentive to keep things cleanly separated.
I'm certain that this is fixable, but it will take a lot of work. I
think this is happening slowly. Many of us have day jobs and it's
hard to make this a priority.
Jim
On Sep
not sure that having a few extra packages today is
stopping people from getting things done.
I think there is a distaste for having lots of extra packages around.
This isn't very important to me, but it really bugs some folks.
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On Sep 4, 2008, at 10:55 AM, Martijn Faassen wrote:
Hey,
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Does the hidden status explain
I'll look at this.
Jim
On Sep 22, 2008, at 8:30 AM, Jürgen kartnaller wrote:
I just run into a with transaction manager and synchronizers.
If transaction.get implicitily creates a new transaction the
synchronizers are not called. This is not problem as long as no
savepoints are used
AttributeError:
return False
...
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adapters. This has long been considered a mistake but was never fixed.
Yup. I would go so far as to call it a bug. Somebody please fix it. :)
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On Oct 17, 2008, at 12:38 PM, Tres Seaver wrote:
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
Jim Fulton wrote:
Log message for revision 92293:
Changed the generated test script to use a part-local tmp directory
that is cleaned up at the start of a test run.
Unfortunately, the ZODB
On Oct 17, 2008, at 1:13 PM, Stephan Richter wrote:
On Friday 17 October 2008, Jim Fulton wrote:
It would be nice to deprecate zope.traversing and fold it into
zope.app.pagetemplate.
Just skimming the thread, wouldn't this make it harder for us to
integrate
z3c.pt, which also needs
testrunner-coverage.txt is failing since this check in. What's up
with this?
Jim
On Aug 27, 2008, at 3:41 AM, Stephan Richter wrote:
Log message for revision 90401:
- Open doctest files in universal mode, so that packages released
in Windoes
can be tested in Linux, for example
On Oct 17, 2008, at 3:16 PM, Stephan Richter wrote:
On Friday 17 October 2008, Jim Fulton wrote:
testrunner-coverage.txt is failing since this check in. What's up
with this?
It passes for me on Python 2.5.
Sigh. It passes for me too with 2.5.
Can you be more specific?
It fails
On Oct 21, 2008, at 8:29 AM, Chris Withers wrote:
Sidnei da Silva wrote:
I always was under the impression that Jim feared the code and the
required security audit was perceived as a major painful
undertaking.
That was my perception too. But after looking at the code it is
really
are implicitly binary. (Note the B in Blob.)
I'll add support for b and t to the blob code if no one objects.
I object.
BTW, this questions should have been asked o zodb-dev.
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a reference to the key in an internal
BTree node.
(I don't know this to be true, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was
true.)
If this is the case, we can definitely fix it.
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On Nov 6, 2008, at 11:32 AM, Tim Peters wrote:
[Jim Fulton]
In particular, it might have a reference to the key in an internal
BTree node.
(I don't know this to be true, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was
true.)
It was true when I was working on BTrees ... here, from
http
On Nov 6, 2008, at 1:06 PM, Adam GROSZER wrote:
Hello Jim,
Does this fit?
https://bugs.launchpad.net/zope3/+bug/294788
Yup. Thanks!
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On Nov 11, 2008, at 8:52 AM, Jim Fulton wrote:
I'm going to restore svn from a backup and see where that leaves
us. I'm going to disable svn access while I work on this.
The repository is back now. Much thanks to Christian Theune for
providing a replication image.
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I'm going to restore svn from a backup and see where that leaves us.
I'm going to disable svn access while I work on this.
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an egg for it and include the egg in the ZEO server.
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It appears that no one has committed to the CVS repository in almost 2
years. I propose to change it to read-only.
Any objections?
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Any objections?
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. Please drop it.
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, with the 'download-cache' directory
already populated (maybe).
Yup (sort a). See zc.sourcerelease.
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like to see a couple more TAR ball releases. I have a script to
update the
Zope3/ tree, so it is fairly easy for me to fulfill that request.
What do people want from a tar release. Wouldn't their needs be
adequately met by a source release made with zc.sourcerelease?
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?
No!!!
zope.configuration just contains the implmentation of zcml itself. It
shouldn't have any application-dependent code.
I have no problem with moving zcml out of other packages, but it has
to move into new packages, not into zope.configuration.
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package might be in order.
Yes please. (I should have read this before sending the other message
I just sent. :)
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On Jan 30, 2009, at 1:48 PM, Brian Sutherland wrote:
Please don't, having namespace packages that contain files (as
zope.configuration already does) breaks setuptools.
zope.configuration isn't a namespace package. It is simply a package
with subpackages.
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is doenload.zope.org maintained? Shell access?
Yes
And
who does it?
Mostly Stephan at this point.
It should be moved to the foundation servers at some point.
+1
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trigger a rebuild. I'm now
thinking of fixing the place where buildout detects that the path has
been changed as to normalize the path.
Thoughts?
I think it would be easiest to have buildout normalize the config path
using os.path.normcase where it is input.
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On Feb 6, 2009, at 7:35 AM, Chris Withers wrote:
Jim Fulton wrote:
zope.configuration isn't a namespace package. It is simply a
package with subpackages.
Does setuptools support something like:
packagea:
packagea/__init__.py
packagea/amodule.py
packagea.something:
packagea
structure.
+1
...
For that reason, a) is not really an option for me.
As I said above, I'm for a) because I think it is less disruptive,
even though I share your distaste for extras.
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On Feb 9, 2009, at 12:03 PM, Lennart Regebro wrote:
So, I propose to have an Open Space session at PyCon, Chicago, March
27-29 .
Count me in. (I'll also be sprinting the first 2 sprint days.)
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